March 13, 2018 
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peer)[15:00:16] *** man_u_ is now known as man_u[15:00:45] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.89.234.27> has joined #illumos[15:13:08] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[15:14:39] *** jcea <jcea!~Thunderbi@2001:41d0:1:8a82:7670:6e00:7670:6e00> has joined #illumos[15:18:17] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@185.39.197.205> has joined #illumos[15:19:24] *** asx_ <asx_!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has joined #illumos[15:20:28] <denk> guys, SOS! I need to create a zpool on an external device, for example, using a iscsi disk, but the host cannot be rebooted, it just hangs until I export the pool manualy, which service should I use as dependency for my smf to export it correctly?[15:22:24] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:25:13] <nahamu> denk: are you saying that networking gets shut down before the pool gets exported?[15:25:48] <denk> nahamu: exactly[15:27:30] <nahamu> This isn't your root pool, right?[15:27:49] <denk> yep, it is not the rpool[15:29:13] <nahamu> I wonder if this wiki page might have some ideas for you: https://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Advanced+-+ZFS+Pools+as+SMF+services+and+iSCSI+loopback+mounts[15:29:50] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.89.234.27> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:32:20] <denk> thanks for the link[15:37:18] *** asx_ <asx_!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:37:44] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has joined #illumos[15:42:21] *** Sonarpulse <Sonarpulse!~Sonarpuls@unaffiliated/sonarpulse> has joined #illumos[15:47:37] *** ngchk1 <ngchk1!~wilkens@b2b-92-50-91-166.unitymedia.biz> has joined #illumos[15:53:34] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #illumos[15:55:29] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@static-108-48-124-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #illumos[16:01:00] *** tomoyat1 <tomoyat1!~tomoyat1@tomoyat1.com> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - 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It seems a bit odd that we pull the network down before rebooting...[22:29:12] *** myrkraverk <myrkraverk!~chatzilla@112.201.67.61> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:30:22] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@5.79.84.77> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:30:24] *** amrmesh <amrmesh!~Thunderbi@79.127.14.139> has joined #illumos[22:31:09] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:32:11] *** myrkraverk <myrkraverk!~chatzilla@112.201.67.61> has joined #illumos[22:32:45] *** amrmesh is now known as amrfrsh[22:38:55] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@79.127.14.139> has quit IRC (Quit: amrfrsh)[22:40:18] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@5.79.84.77> has joined #illumos[22:44:23] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@83.150.60.190> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[22:44:27] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@5.79.84.77> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:50:20] *** jthan <jthan!~jonathan@jrdemasi.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:50:40] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc92716-cmbg20-2-0-cust138.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:59:45] *** jthan <jthan!~jonathan@jrdemasi.com> has joined #illumos[23:04:42] *** rv <rv!~rv@99-112-71-122.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net> has joined #illumos[23:05:12] *** rv <rv!~rv@99-112-71-122.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net> has left #illumos[23:05:29] *** rafaelv <rafaelv!~rv@99-112-71-122.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net> has joined #illumos[23:07:03] <sjorge> QQ, what is the are all the __xpv defined / !defined for? What does __xpv stand for?[23:08:21] <rafaelv> sjorge: that's for xen[23:08:40] <LeftWing> Xen Para-Virtualisation?[23:08:59] <LeftWing> i.e., the weird contortions we put OSes through before we realised we could just have CPUs provide virtualisation extensions[23:09:03] <LeftWing> Now thoroughly obsolete[23:09:16] <igork1> LeftWing: denk is using dilos :)[23:09:26] *** igork1 is now known as igork[23:09:30] <LeftWing> Well, it sounds like you have a support issue! :D[23:09:35] <igork> and it is not dilos problem[23:09:50] <igork> is it issue with network drives[23:09:53] <igork> like iscsi[23:09:56] <LeftWing> Well, as a distribution vendor, _all_ problems are your problems. :P[23:10:17] <LeftWing> How do you configure networking?[23:10:19] <igork> where we try kill network service before iscsi/initiator[23:11:04] <igork> it is illumos iscsi initiator and all illumos distributions are have this issue :)[23:11:42] <LeftWing> Well, we don't allow iSCSI into the house in SmartOS :P[23:11:46] <igork> network like all others - dladm create-vnic -v 100 -l ixgbe0 net10[23:11:53] <igork> LeftWing: :)[23:12:03] <igork> but it is not point[23:12:20] <igork> real issue is - how to correct provide smf dependencies[23:12:30] <igork> where iscsi/initiator will do his job[23:12:39] <igork> before network stop working[23:13:03] <igork> right now - if we have zpool on iscsi drives and try to do reboot - system stuck on it[23:13:14] <igork> because network killed[23:13:28] <igork> and drives in zpool - unavailable[23:13:38] <igork> more text about issue :)[23:13:48] <igork> additional details :)[23:14:33] <igork> we try identify - how to do iscsi initiator his job and zpool export _before_ stop networking[23:15:03] <igork> LeftWing: if you know some hits about smf dependencies - please help ![23:15:38] <LeftWing> This is kind of a hard problem. Does the iSCSI initiator know to export pools that sit on top of iSCSI devices as you tear it down?[23:16:06] <igork> we try extend iscsi initiator service - to do zpool export[23:16:56] <igork> but - if i try to do manually - svcadm iscsi/initiator disable - it do his job as well[23:17:01] <igork> and i can reboot[23:17:26] <igork> but - if we try to do just - reboot - network service go down before initiator[23:17:58] <LeftWing> How does this work with NFS mounts today?[23:18:06] <LeftWing> It feels like you would have the same problem?[23:18:11] <igork> nope[23:18:14] <igork> local zpool[23:18:26] <igork> it is NOT zpool on nework drivs[23:18:42] <igork> local drives are available[23:18:48] <igork> and connected to local HBA[23:19:21] <igork> you have zfs umount[23:19:27] <LeftWing> Stop, hang on.[23:19:32] <igork> ok[23:19:51] <LeftWing> If you have a zpool on top of an iSCSI initiator device, that is _not_ a local zpool[23:20:10] <igork> but for system - it is local[23:20:21] <igork> no differences[23:20:44] <LeftWing> Yes, but my point is this: if instead of doing all this, you mount an NFS share from a remote server, and you reboot, why don't you have the same problem with shutting down the network interface before we go to sync that file system?[23:20:58] <LeftWing> Surely it's the same sort of thing[23:21:00] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@static-108-48-124-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[23:21:13] <LeftWing> And if you _don't_ have this problem with NFS, why is that? What mechanism exists today to fix this problem for NFS?[23:21:23] <igork> i didn't check hard NFS mounts - i just do atofs[23:21:47] <igork> autofs can do it without problems[23:22:11] <LeftWing> Sure, but what about a traditional "vfstab" NFS mount?[23:22:22] <igork> i didn't check it[23:22:25] *** argulp <argulp!~argulp@95.129.116.160> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:22:29] <igork> and we are not using it[23:22:32] <LeftWing> OK, but I'm saying you should investigate that.[23:22:45] <LeftWing> Because if that works, we would want to understand _how_[23:22:51] <LeftWing> The same thing might apply here for iSCSI[23:22:53] <igork> well, we will try, but if it has the same problem - what next ?[23:23:02] <igork> while you will sleep ? :)[23:23:03] <LeftWing> Well I'm pretty sure it _doesn't_ have the same problem[23:23:19] <LeftWing> zpools on iSCSI is a relatively new development compared to NFS mounts[23:23:27] <LeftWing> And I imagine less people are using it[23:23:37] <igork> i think, yes[23:23:50] <igork> but issue is present[23:24:35] <LeftWing> Honestly I am surprised that we take the network interface down as part of shutdown[23:24:43] <LeftWing> We should probably not do that[23:24:44] <igork> another ideas? maybe some smf dependencies honts?[23:24:59] <igork> hints[23:25:25] <LeftWing> Are you using DHCP here, or a static IP?[23:25:32] <igork> all static[23:25:44] <LeftWing> Yeah, it's definitely weird to me that we bother taking the interface down before rebooting[23:25:56] <igork> yes[23:25:57] <LeftWing> We _must_ do something different for NFS...[23:26:40] <sjorge> LeftWing: we should really have a glossary list for some of those![23:26:55] <igork> i'm not sure about static NFS mounts - i think it will be the same problem with networking[23:27:03] <LeftWing> igork: I would be very surprised[23:27:13] <LeftWing> But I've been surprised before, I guess.[23:27:16] <igork> i'll check it tomorrow[23:27:18] <LeftWing> sjorge: Of which things?[23:28:16] <sjorge> Some of the abbreviations uses in the code and comments, a[23:28:26] <igork> LeftWing: heh - i can see in iscsi initiator - umount_iscsi()[23:28:26] <igork> exec < /etc/vfstab[23:28:39] <igork> it's mean - we can use iscsi drive in exec < /etc/vfstab[23:28:40] <sjorge> Lot are covered in the intel spec thing rm shared. Some can be found using grok[23:28:49] <sjorge> But that still leaves a few[23:28:54] <igork> and it's bad[23:29:09] <igork> if network down[23:30:06] *** jlevon <jlevon!~jlevon@88.98.93.30> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:30:35] <igork> the same problem with nfs static mounts[23:31:21] <igork> it is why i prefer to use autofs[23:31:26] <igork> with mfs[23:31:29] <igork> nfs[23:32:54] <LeftWing> I swear to god we don't have this problem with NFS[23:32:58] <LeftWing> Otherwise nothing would have worked ever[23:33:33] <LeftWing> I've been using Solaris for something like 15 years and you can use static NFS mounts _and_ reboot[23:33:37] <LeftWing> I proimise[23:33:52] <igork> LeftWing: did you try it on illumos?[23:34:06] <LeftWing> No, but I'm also smart enough to avoid iSCSI :P[23:34:08] <igork> latest illumos[23:34:24] <LeftWing> Here's a question: how are you _importing_ the iSCSI ZFS pool?[23:34:40] <igork> by iscsi initiator[23:34:48] <igork> zpool import <my zpool>[23:34:48] <LeftWing> No, I mean, what triggers the "zpool import" itself?[23:34:56] <igork> iscsi initiator service[23:35:13] <LeftWing> The iSCSI service runs "zpool import"?![23:35:20] <igork> yes[23:35:30] <igork> after his start and checks[23:35:46] <LeftWing> Have you customised it?![23:35:57] <igork> it is shell script :)[23:36:08] <igork> method file[23:36:11] <LeftWing> Yes, and it doesn't appear to mention the word "zpool" at all in the gate[23:36:59] <LeftWing> $ egrep -i -c 'zpool|zfs' iscsi-initiator[23:36:59] <LeftWing> 0[23:37:04] <igork> well - if we are talking about gate - i can't use iscsi mount in /etc/vfstab[23:37:10] <igork> ok - no zpool[23:37:17] <igork> ]just - iscsi drive[23:37:21] <LeftWing> OK, so, again: what triggers the "zpool import" itself?[23:37:22] <igork> is it ok for you?[23:37:37] <igork> i have added zpool import by myself[23:37:42] <igork> to my local file[23:37:43] <LeftWing> Into the script?[23:37:45] <igork> yes[23:37:48] <LeftWing> Oh, into some other script?[23:38:07] <igork> it has start and stop actions[23:38:22] <igork> case "$1" in[23:38:22] <igork> 'start')[23:38:30] <igork> to this section at end - zpool import[23:38:37] <LeftWing> Dude[23:38:37] <igork> stop)[23:38:37] <igork> zpool export[23:38:45] <LeftWing> If you're customising the iscsi-initiator service to import the pool[23:38:50] <igork> the same as for mount and umount[23:38:50] <LeftWing> why you no just export the pool on stop[23:39:03] <igork> i do ;)[23:39:11] <igork> but - network down before[23:39:27] <igork> it is real big pain f**d issue[23:39:42] *** rafaelv <rafaelv!~rv@99-112-71-122.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC ()[23:40:01] <igork> and it killing my brain[23:40:13] <LeftWing> I know that feeling.[23:40:24] <igork> it _must_work[23:40:29] <igork> but - nothing[23:40:57] <igork> i have checked start/stop actions by ping[23:41:05] <igork> and in stop action - ping not working[23:41:31] <igork> it is how we identified that network down before stop action[23:41:59] <igork> we have added 'ping' to gateway in script[23:42:47] <igork> to me - network must be UP until iscsi initiator service not stopped[23:42:57] <LeftWing> Seems reasonable.[23:42:57] <igork> and i try identify - how to do it[23:43:16] <LeftWing> I think NFS might have this solved already, I would look there.[23:43:38] <igork> LeftWing: thanks for nfs hints - we will try investigate it tomorrow[23:43:49] <igork> but i think - it has the same issue with static mounts[23:43:56] <igork> but - maybe i'm wrong[23:44:00] <LeftWing> Pretty sure it doesn't.[23:44:03] <igork> i hope - i'm wrong[23:44:14] <igork> but - will se[23:44:22] <igork> thanks for your time and hints[23:44:36] <igork> go to bed :) later to me[23:51:05] *** richlowe <richlowe!~richlowe@h55.86.23.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:51:49] *** snuff-work <snuff-work!~snuff-wor@210.9.148.102> has joined #illumos[23:53:54] *** richlowe <richlowe!~richlowe@h123.253.29.71.dynamic.ip.windstream.net> has joined #illumos