March 11, 2018 
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March 11, 2018 [00:16:12] <igork> LeftWing: are you remember = what smartos version used webmin ?[00:17:57] <igork> i saw it at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgUWyNTx-ho[00:19:37] *** asx_ <asx_!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has joined #illumos[00:20:10] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[00:20:22] *** pk12_ <pk12_!~pk12@199.241.146.163> has joined #illumos[00:22:32] *** pk12_ <pk12_!~pk12@199.241.146.163> has left #illumos[00:23:34] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@104-189-74-222.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[00:24:03] <LeftWing> igork: Wow, that's a super old video.[00:24:41] <LeftWing> I'm pretty sure we haven't done anything serious with webmin for _years_[00:25:35] <igork> i was just interested in - it was internal only version or it was public available[00:25:53] <igork> and - it was with zfs module or without it[00:25:59] <LeftWing> That's a good question. This video is from 2011, which is more than a year before I started with the company.[00:26:30] <igork> ok :) sorry for noise ;)[00:26:35] <LeftWing> It's OK.[00:48:57] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@104-189-74-222.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #illumos[00:58:56] *** phyre <phyre!~phyre___@188.208.100.249> has joined #illumos[01:05:34] *** phyre <phyre!~phyre___@188.208.100.249> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:11:03] *** carlomagno1 <carlomagno1!~cararell@inet-hqmc02-o.oracle.com> has joined #illumos[01:11:04] *** carlomagno <carlomagno!~cararell@inet-hqmc05-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:21:59] *** Riastradh <Riastradh!~riastradh@netbsd/developer/riastradh> has joined #illumos[01:38:27] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@104-189-74-222.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…)[06:52:33] <tsoome> ou, i see some commits:)[06:57:06] <LeftWing> I am working through the queue[06:57:11] <tsoome> thanks:)[06:57:27] <LeftWing> Thanks for your patience![06:57:33] <tsoome> it is rather long, im afraid[06:57:38] <tsoome> the queue;)[06:58:01] <LeftWing> I have another 11 patches picked out that I'm going to build[06:58:10] <LeftWing> A few have some open questions[06:58:18] <LeftWing> And then I think there are not many more after those 11[07:00:14] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@hqdc-proxy-mwg05-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:00:34] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@hqdc-proxy-mwg05-o.oracle.com> has joined #illumos[07:26:42] *** mgerdts <mgerdts!~textual@47.41.171.90> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Debugging CSM and loader is tricky but I am making progress.[11:56:28] <andyf> I can now boot the OmniOS installer under bhyve at least[11:57:14] <andyf> well, 60-80% of the time, so same randomness that you experienced[12:35:44] *** nordmike1 <nordmike1!~nordmike@95-52-12-246.dynamic.murmansk.dslavangard.ru> has joined #illumos[12:38:15] *** nordmike <nordmike!~nordmike@pppoe.178-65-143-68.dynamic.avangarddsl.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[12:59:44] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has joined #illumos[13:24:16] *** elevated <elevated!~elevated@unaffiliated/elevated> has quit IRC (Quit: bye)[13:45:31] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[13:53:55] *** alhazred_ <alhazred_!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-18.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #illumos[14:11:41] *** asx_ <asx_!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has joined #illumos[14:13:07] *** alhazred_ <alhazred_!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-18.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC ()[14:13:08] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:17:42] *** BH23 <BH23!~BH23@santoroj.plus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[14:19:18] *** asx_ is now known as asx[14:21:57] *** alhazred_ <alhazred_!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-18.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #illumos[14:26:13] *** MarcelT <MarcelT!~marcel@tortuga.telka.sk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:28:32] *** CME <CME!~CME@ipb2181a88.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[14:31:28] *** _Joes_ <_Joes_!~BH23@185.143.230.229> has joined #illumos[14:32:29] *** CME <CME!~CME@ipb2181a88.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #illumos[14:36:33] *** jacobs <jacobs!~jacobs@2603:300a:16fb:4000:f486:d3cc:3924:b604> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:45:32] *** elevated <elevated!~elevated@unaffiliated/elevated> has joined #illumos[14:48:27] *** jacobs <jacobs!~jacobs@2603:300a:16fb:4000:f486:d3cc:3924:b604> has joined #illumos[14:53:16] *** alhazred_ <alhazred_!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-18.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC ()[15:03:22] *** elegast <elegast!~elegast@2001:983:af19:1:a11:96ff:fe19:64c4> has joined #illumos[15:04:16] *** elevated <elevated!~elevated@unaffiliated/elevated> has quit IRC (Quit: bye)[15:04:44] *** jacobs <jacobs!~jacobs@2603:300a:16fb:4000:f486:d3cc:3924:b604> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[15:17:01] *** jacobs <jacobs!~jacobs@2603:300a:16fb:4000:f486:d3cc:3924:b604> has joined #illumos[15:23:51] *** alhazred_ <alhazred_!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-18.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #illumos[15:25:00] *** elevated <elevated!~elevated@unaffiliated/elevated> has joined #illumos[15:28:48] *** mgerdts <mgerdts!~textual@47.41.171.90> has joined #illumos[15:49:51] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.89.234.27> has joined #illumos[15:52:22] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.89.234.27> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:59:41] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has joined #illumos[16:01:00] *** tomoyat1 <tomoyat1!~tomoyat1@tomoyat1.com> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - http://znc.in)[16:01:30] *** tomoyat1 <tomoyat1!~tomoyat1@tomoyat1.com> has joined #illumos[16:03:49] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:04:10] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has joined #illumos[16:09:41] *** alhazred_ <alhazred_!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-18.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC ()[16:14:53] *** present <present!~present@114.206.140.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #illumos[16:19:40] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@104.189.74.222> has joined #illumos[16:26:28] *** mgerdts <mgerdts!~textual@47.41.171.90> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[16:30:03] *** mgerdts <mgerdts!~textual@47.41.171.90> has joined #illumos[16:33:57] *** present <present!~present@114.206.140.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:34:22] *** present <present!~present@114.206.140.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #illumos[16:39:56] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@37.112.231.145> has joined #illumos[16:41:35] *** mgerdts <mgerdts!~textual@47.41.171.90> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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https://znc.in)[20:35:15] *** _Tenchi_ <_Tenchi_!~phil@207-255-68-080-dhcp.aoo.pa.atlanticbb.net> has joined #illumos[20:35:33] *** MarcelT <MarcelT!~marcel@tortuga.telka.sk> has joined #illumos[20:36:05] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@97.93.166.71> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:36:14] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9198 libstand: Const-ify buffer argument of write(2) analog -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[20:36:15] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9228 zone_getattr(ZONE_ATTR_NETWORK) returns uninitialised value -- Andy Fiddaman <omnios at citrus-it dot co.uk>[20:36:16] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9226 fd: this statement may fall through -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[20:36:17] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9216 awk: this statement may fall through -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[20:36:18] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8659 ata: unused but set warnings with GCC 5.X -- Andrew Stormont <astormont at racktopsystems dot com>[20:36:19] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9121 dladm: addrval can be NULL, need to check in iptun_process_addrarg() -- Doma Gergő Mihály <domag02 at google dot com>[20:36:20] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9146 libdtrace: this statement may fall through -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[20:36:21] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9174 smbsrv/libsmbns: duplicate 'const' declaration specifier -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[20:36:22] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9175 smbsrv/libfksmbsrv: this statement may fall through -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>[20:36:23] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 9251 p123_pcbe is useless and can be removed -- Yuri Pankov <yuri.pankov at nexenta dot com>[20:37:12] <igork> LeftWing: super job :)[20:37:55] <LeftWing> Well, let's see if I've broken anything before you thank me. :P[20:38:03] <igork> :)[20:38:04] <tsoome> thanks:)[20:38:11] <igork> LeftWing: no worry :)[20:38:36] <LeftWing> I worry very much -- that's why it takes so long. :P[20:38:41] <igork> i know how to use git revert and merge and cherry-pick ;)[20:38:55] <LeftWing> Yes, but some of us have customers and it's very bad to ship them bits that don't work.[20:39:24] <igork> LeftWing: i'm not sure you ship original illumos to customers without tests :)[20:39:51] <LeftWing> We definitely try to test things, but we treat the "master" branch of illumos-joyent as being ready to ship at any time[20:40:13] *** MarcelT <MarcelT!~marcel@tortuga.telka.sk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[20:40:13] <LeftWing> We don't yet have the large testing infrastructure and QA team that Sun had for Solaris.[20:40:21] <igork> not just relese-<stamp> branches for it ?[20:40:45] <LeftWing> Well we encourage people to run software we build from release-$date images[20:40:50] <igork> because time to time i see updates on your master branch with broken builds :)[20:41:04] <LeftWing> Yes, and it's not good, and we work to try not to make the same mistake twice.[20:41:38] *** MarcelT <MarcelT!~marcel@tortuga.telka.sk> has joined #illumos[20:41:48] <igork> well - i't known issue to me too and i have moved to use 'int' = integration brach before merge to release 'dilos2' branch :)[20:42:12] *** elevated <elevated!~elevated@unaffiliated/elevated> has quit IRC (Quit: bye)[20:42:16] <igork> 'int' branch can be broken with builds, but not release branch[20:42:45] <igork> i'm working a long time with release engineering ;)[20:42:57] <LeftWing> We prefer the "master is always ready to ship" model. There's really no reason to put things in master if they aren't working.[20:43:07] *** elevated <elevated!~elevated@unaffiliated/elevated> has joined #illumos[20:43:13] <LeftWing> (I know mistakes happen, but we seek to reduce them as much as possible.)[20:43:27] <LeftWing> We don't want to end up in the STABLE/CURRENT world that FreeBSD has, for instance.[20:43:36] <igork> yes, but you can break build by incorrect merge - it is possible - and you can forgot delivery added/new files[20:44:02] <LeftWing> Forgetting delivery of new files is a great example of something that is a mistake, where we can change the way work so that it's impossible to make that mistake[20:44:39] <igork> i'm testing new 'int' branch outside my local build env - on separate env by jenkins - and if it fine - i merge changes to release branch[20:45:02] <igork> it is why i do check by build on separate clean env[20:45:09] <LeftWing> https://smartos.org/bugview/OS-5404 <-- this is a good example[20:45:15] <LeftWing> We were screwing up the timezone database stuff sometimes[20:45:27] <igork> yeah ...[20:45:33] <LeftWing> So I added a tool: https://github.com/joyent/smartos-live/blob/master/tools/tzcheck/main.c[20:45:45] <LeftWing> tzcheck, which runs as part of a build and makes sure we're not doing that[20:45:46] <igork> it is by i prefer split something to userland[20:45:56] <igork> and yes - all possible[20:45:58] <LeftWing> It's nothing to do with what repository it is in[20:46:32] <igork> it is why some sanity checks before final updates are fine[20:46:39] <igork> where you can check minimal[20:47:02] <igork> but auto tests - fine solution[20:47:18] <igork> not easy some time to do it[20:48:05] <LeftWing> Right, but when it _is_ easy to do it, and it would catch mistakes we're really making (see "tzcheck" and "mancheck" in SmartOS) there's really no excuse not to do it[20:48:45] <igork> yes - i see it[20:49:08] <igork> i'm monitoring smartos builds time to time :)[20:49:26] <igork> i like some ideas, but not at all[20:50:05] <igork> for example: you can disable java builds because you are not using it with smartos images[20:50:35] <igork> the same with tpm - need additional enable/disable flag[20:50:47] <igork> but yes - need some works with build env[20:54:14] *** pk12 <pk12!~pk12@199.241.146.163> has joined #illumos[20:57:13] *** jelmd <jelmd!~purple@213.220.156.75> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[21:05:53] <LeftWing> igork: For 9181 (from tsoome) I'm going to include this change: https://gist.github.com/jclulow/4cd09ba704c111e243f38f050eb44847[21:06:37] <LeftWing> This brings the sparc "ipf" Makefile more in line with the intel one, and should hopefully avoid breaking the build. For reference, the differences between the two: https://gist.github.com/jclulow/a49e8491be5dd4f8e0bf64d11c2e27f9[21:06:52] <LeftWing> (after the changE)[21:07:11] <igork> ok, thanks for info, i can check it after your push[21:07:19] <LeftWing> Yup. Just a heads up.[21:07:26] <igork> thanks[21:08:21] <igork> LGTM - you can count me as reviewer if you want[21:08:51] <igork> if i right understand - it was just resort of CPPFLAGS[21:09:07] <igork> to be the same with intel and sparc[21:10:41] <igork> and intel version was missed -DSOLARIS=1[21:15:06] <LeftWing> No, tsoome has refactored some of the conditionals in the file. We now need to pass in "-DSOLARIS=1" (which he did in the Intel file)[21:15:11] <LeftWing> I've added that to the SPARC file as well[21:15:18] <LeftWing> (and resorted things to be less different)[21:16:25] <LeftWing> Adding "-DSOLARIS=1" is the only substantive change, and will be required for it to build on SPARC correctly after 9181 goes back.[21:16:31] <igork> ok[21:17:29] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@94.11.67.170> has joined #illumos[21:17:33] <igork> if sparc will be some noise - i let you know ;)[21:18:48] *** present_ <present_!~present@114.206.140.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:19:21] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@37.112.231.145> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:20:00] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:20:07] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #illumos[21:31:01] <andyf> sjorge - I now have a bee-sized copy of OmniOS running :)[21:31:47] <andyf> root@omniosce:~# echo platform_type/X | mdb -k[21:31:47] <andyf> platform_type: 40[21:32:41] *** alhazred_ <alhazred_!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-18.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC ()[21:32:46] <LeftWing> andyf: What have you had to change?[21:33:12] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[21:33:22] <andyf> I've changed loader (with help from tsoome) but I think it's actually a bug in uefi-edk2's CSM implementation[21:35:23] <andyf> looks like some kind of timing problem in switching back and forth from VM86... but more investigation to do[21:36:32] *** jp <jp!ayy@youlosethega.me> has quit IRC (Quit: https://ptpb.pw/~docrivers.gif)[21:36:42] *** jp <jp!ayy@youlosethega.me> has joined #illumos[21:39:17] *** _Tenchi_ <_Tenchi_!~phil@207-255-68-080-dhcp.aoo.pa.atlanticbb.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[21:51:03] <igork> andyf: is it omni as bhyve vm?[21:52:50] <andyf> omnios as both host and guest[21:55:01] <igork> andyf: cool ;)[21:55:10] <igork> andyf: are you using zones?[21:55:22] <igork> or just bhyve lader[21:55:33] <igork> loader[21:55:36] <igork> like qemu[21:56:07] <andyf> testing both - running in GZ and NGZ[21:56:21] <igork> andyf: i mean - guest[21:56:55] <igork> smartos is using zones brandz[21:57:03] <andyf> yes, I know[22:20:49] *** imm_ <imm_!~imm_@unaffiliated/imm/x-7821412> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[22:42:18] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@104-189-74-222.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #illumos[22:55:24] *** present <present!~present@114.206.140.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #illumos[23:10:28] *** present <present!~present@114.206.140.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:19:14] *** present <present!~present@114.206.140.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #illumos[23:25:27] *** wiedi <wiedi!~wiedi@ip5b409739.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #illumos[23:55:39] *** rmustacc <rmustacc!~daemar@zelgadis.fingolfin.org> has joined #illumos