February 1, 2018 
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ZZZzzz…)[06:34:51] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has joined #illumos[06:47:58] *** jcea <jcea!~Thunderbi@2001:41d0:1:8a82:7670:6e00:7670:6e00> has quit IRC (Quit: jcea)[06:56:03] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@176.212.32.36> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:28:11] *** amosbird <amosbird!~amosbird@123.206.66.49> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[07:29:33] <tsoome> ahzoo:P[07:30:47] *** amosbird <amosbird!~amosbird@123.206.66.49> has joined #illumos[07:38:00] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[07:55:17] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has joined #illumos[07:55:25] *** neuroserve <neuroserve!~toens@195.71.113.124> has joined #illumos[07:57:19] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:02:10] *** alhazred <alhazred!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f889-133.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #illumos[08:02:46] <yurip> tsoome: seen anything similar to https://pastebin.com/7g39y255 trying uefi boot in vmware vm?[08:03:49] *** pk12 <pk12!~pk12@199.241.146.163> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[08:03:59] <yurip> triple fault sounds scary :D[08:04:49] <tsoome> yes, but I havent got any log and it has been rare + random[08:05:13] *** pk12 <pk12!~pk12@199.241.146.163> has joined #illumos[08:06:51] <yurip> seems to be reproducible here :\[08:06:59] <tsoome> ou is it?[08:07:48] <tsoome> at least in fusion there is gdb stub in vmware[08:07:49] <yurip> when trying to boot the installation iso, we (actually Alexander E.) have built our own (I guess you aware)[08:07:55] <tsoome> yes[08:08:17] <yurip> that's the windows one[08:08:31] <yurip> so if I can provide any information...[08:08:38] <tsoome> as gate is not progressing, he did pick the loader branch[08:09:54] <tsoome> in .vmx file: debugStub.listen.guest64 = "TRUE"[08:10:06] <tsoome> then the stub is at port 8864[08:11:18] <tsoome> but I am not sure if such fault case is actually catchable with gdb, worth to try anyhow.[08:12:05] <yurip> oh ok, I'll look into it[08:13:29] <tsoome> at the very beginning you can see the printout with address, where loader.efi was loaded[08:16:06] <yurip> it actually happens when trying to boot the os[08:16:21] <yurip> i.e. past the loader menu[08:17:00] <yurip> changing the disk type to ide now gives "firmware exception"[08:19:34] *** elevated <elevated!~elevated@kite.riseup.net> has joined #illumos[08:19:38] <yurip> after the "Booting" word, where it was hanging previously[08:24:39] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has joined #illumos[08:32:28] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[08:34:49] <tsoome> hrm[08:37:33] <tsoome> thats the part where we have switched off BS, we move loaded data into the place and jump to kernel. so the question would be, if we are stepping onto memory area used by RS[08:38:43] <tsoome> which means that have to implement the memory map lookup when choosing the final 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Dallas, TX[16:35:16] <yurip> getting the same speed from .ru, so looks like there's really something wrong[16:35:54] <jperkin> 30MB/s to .uk[16:36:56] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@unaffiliated/sjorge> has quit IRC (Quit: 410 Gone)[16:41:58] *** neuroserve <neuroserve!~toens@195.71.113.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[16:49:37] <jduggan> (48.3 MB/s) - ‘omniosce-bloody-20180116.iso’ in UK[16:52:45] <mgerdts> andyf: 78.08M 4.61MB/s eta 65s[16:53:02] *** jwk404 <jwk404!~jwk404@c-73-95-226-215.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #illumos[16:53:12] <mgerdts> In Madison, WI on a link that tops out at about 60 Mb/s[16:53:54] <andyf> Thanks all - that gives us something to look at.[16:54:05] <mgerdts> speedtest.net telling me I'm getting 48 Mb/s, so the limiting factor on my download was probably my ISP[17:05:13] *** phyre <phyre!~phyre___@188.208.100.249> has joined #illumos[17:08:20] *** alarcher <alarcher!~alarcher@2001:700:300:1470:72f3:95ff:fe03:2ae2> has joined #illumos[17:15:36] <Smithx10> oh yeah!!! mgerdts is back![17:15:42] <Smithx10> w00t w00t ![17:16:53] <mgerdts> You shouldn't be so happy. The time I spent on here just meant that I was looking for a distraction while waiting on a computer.[17:17:08] <Smithx10> lol, update your mac?[17:17:20] <Smithx10> Actually tho, that means you are gonna make more commits to bhyve[17:17:23] <Smithx10> and then I can go and read them[17:17:36] <Smithx10> and try to figure out what to do with my Lifffeeeeeeee[17:17:49] <mgerdts> No, hacking on some stuff that requires reboots and hits frequent multi-minute delays in the boot process.[17:18:10] <Smithx10> awwwww[17:18:13] <mgerdts> That is, trying to make images work a bit better with the bhyve bits.[17:18:45] <Smithx10> ahhhh, you mean sometimes images take forever to come up?[17:19:07] <Smithx10> I think I've fallen victim to this and just thought it was my configuration[17:19:43] *** c4rc4s <c4rc4s!~c4rc4s@unaffiliated/c4rc4s> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:20:01] <mgerdts> they shouldn't. We ned to change the way the guest configures networking for some images. With KVM, QEMU has a built-in DHCP server that does the lease negotiation using parameters fed from the VM's metadata.[17:20:03] <mgerdts> bhyve doesn't have a DHCP server like that.[17:20:24] <mgerdts> Our Ubuntu images don't rely on that - they use cloud-init.[17:20:27] <Smithx10> I think i read that in the issues / rfd[17:20:42] <mgerdts> I'm looking into what it will take to make cloud-init work on CentOS.[17:20:54] <Smithx10> ohhhhh boi[17:20:55] <mgerdts> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1746605 shows a couple issues I'm hitting[17:21:28] <Smithx10> You've entered linux init tooling[17:21:45] <Smithx10> the sad place is near.[17:22:01] <mgerdts> cloud-init, I believe, generally works fine on CentOS. It's just having some troubles with the DataSourceSmartOS.[17:22:16] <mgerdts> Sad place indeed.[17:22:41] <mgerdts> You must have networking up before you can log in. Too bad if your networking is broken and will hang forever.[17:23:47] <mgerdts> On the bright side, this behavior forced me to look at rc.local hanging forever. That was a real bug. https://github.com/joyent/illumos-joyent/commit/a810960c84218d7c7a1e722c91fa8bd670978cda[17:23:53] *** Bryson <Bryson!~anonymous@ip68-108-89-198.lv.lv.cox.net> has joined #illumos[17:24:23] <Smithx10> lol[17:24:29] <Smithx10> sorry.... what is ";;"[17:24:31] <Smithx10> hahaha[17:24:51] <mgerdts> do this forever[17:25:08] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@98.4.150.83.dyn.dsl.as8758.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:25:13] <Smithx10> that sounds like a bad idea.[17:25:28] <mgerdts> Same effect can be had with "while (1)"[17:25:43] <mgerdts> not necessarily a bad idea... there's usually some complex logic below that calls break.[17:26:04] <mgerdts> It's actually quite common.[17:26:36] <Smithx10> I guess when you need to wait and you don't know for how long....[17:26:40] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!mnowak_@nat/suse/x-nbhpebswialqvije> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:26:42] <Smithx10> and then you just catch and throw[17:27:39] <Smithx10> mgerdts: will you be doing this with all the images?[17:27:40] <mgerdts> I presume that's regarding the cloud-init issue.[17:27:57] <Smithx10> alpine, centos, debian[17:28:01] <mgerdts> The timeout for the read is 60 seconds. If we hit that, something is amiss.[17:28:11] <mgerdts> That's up for discussion.[17:28:31] <Smithx10> i saw they were talking about putting the dhcp server in the viona driver[17:28:32] <mgerdts> The CentOS image already has python. Adding cloud-init is another 6 MB.[17:29:28] <mgerdts> there's an astonishing lack of common tooling available in the images for parsing python. Even the shells are different. There are various versions of bash which may have different features, and the *bsd images may not have bash.[17:29:46] <Smithx10> yeah I ran into that with freebsd[17:29:48] <mgerdts> So then we are stuck with POSIX sh limitations. Like no associative arrays.[17:29:52] <Smithx10> I created my own, with ZFS, and bash[17:30:57] <Smithx10> hmmm.... is it time to bite the bullet and create a binary that handles all of this?[17:31:07] <mgerdts> Anyway... this discussion is probably better for #smartos. 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