December 19, 2017 
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:D[10:11:11] <Agnar> I have to attend very basic courses for my new training job first ;)[10:14:22] <tsoome> I see. shell basics already done?:P[10:14:42] <denk> vi is a text editor which breaks the files and beeps[10:16:01] <Agnar> tsoome: indeed, last week ;)[10:16:32] *** deejam <deejam!~deejam@bouncer.phealy.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[10:16:47] *** deejam <deejam!~deejam@bouncer.phealy.com> has joined #illumos[10:16:51] <Agnar> denk: ed is the standard UNIX editor. it's called editor, not viitor ;)[10:16:58] *** trn <trn!jhj@prone.ws> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:20:23] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@101.207.125.86> has joined #illumos[10:20:56] <Agnar> tsoome: but honestly it is useful, it's not about learning using vi, but learning how to teach others vi[10:21:01] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@101.207.125.86> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:21:23] <tsoome> that I can believe[10:22:43] *** yurip <yurip!~yuri@178.34.123.167> has joined #illumos[10:22:53] <Agnar> but it soudns very silly :)[10:26:55] <denk> lesson 1: how to quit vi if it ran: esc-:q; lesson 2: how to force quit if it ran: esc-:q!; lesson 3 (if previous did not help): open another terminal and kill it[10:27:17] *** trn <trn!jhj@prone.ws> has joined #illumos[10:30:32] *** man_u <man_u!~manu@manu2.gandi.net> has joined #illumos[10:32:56] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has joined #illumos[10:44:23] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@hqdc-proxy-mwg08-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:44:40] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@hqdc-proxy-mwg08-o.oracle.com> has joined #illumos[10:53:16] *** gila <gila!~gila@94.212.217.200> has joined #illumos[11:01:35] *** tg2 <tg2!~tg2@205.204.66.35> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:04:34] *** snuff-work <snuff-work!~snuff-wor@210.9.148.102> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[11:05:18] *** snuff-work <snuff-work!~snuff-wor@210.9.148.102> has joined #illumos[11:06:27] *** tg2 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ZZZzzz…)[16:44:19] <rmustacc> alp_: Thanks for the testing and work on this.[16:44:29] *** Nerakhon <Nerakhon!~janpaul@213.86.107.165> has joined #illumos[16:46:19] *** gila <gila!~gila@5ED4D9C8.cm-7-5d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[16:47:28] <alp_> well, I work on it, because current /usr/bin/grep irritates me :)[16:48:25] *** cro <cro!~cro@204.228.149.217> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[16:51:45] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@55-114-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[16:53:05] <yurip> wow, someone actually uses it[16:53:20] *** cro <cro!~cro@204.228.149.217> has joined #illumos[16:53:20] <yurip> (outside of build environment, that is)[16:56:01] <rmustacc> I use it.[16:56:49] *** wiedi <wiedi!~wiedi@91.64.238.16> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:59:21] *** kkantor <kkantor!~KodyKanto@c-73-242-105-2.hsd1.mn.comcast.net> has joined #illumos[17:01:06] *** dimonov1 <dimonov1!dimonov@188.172.155.54> has quit IRC (K-Lined)[17:02:03] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@55-114-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #illumos[17:02:32] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@55-114-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:17:08] <yurip> it's missing too much options I'm used to, so I just alias grep to ggrep :\[17:17:19] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@83.150.28.5> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:17:42] <rmustacc> yurip: Mind sharing what your top missing ones are?[17:19:27] <rmustacc> Thanks[17:19:45] <yurip> I know they aren't in standard, but make the life easier[17:20:01] <rmustacc> Sure, there are a lot of flags that aren't in standards that are useful.'[17:22:39] <arekinath> so we should add them! :D[17:26:04] <igork> really - i don't understand it. why you want invest a time to tool if another tool available and you can just use it? i can understand it if i can't use some tools , but in this case it is crazy investing of time :)[17:26:48] <ptribble> Um, don't we already have -l and -h?[17:27:26] <yurip> oh right, sorry[17:27:41] <ptribble> igork: because a monoculture is suboptimal, multiple implementations are a good thing[17:27:55] <PMT> wow, they're coughing up the bnx source. pigs can fly.[17:28:01] <PMT> maybe mpt can get coughed up now.[17:28:21] <igork> ptribble: it is not good with universal tools between different platforms :)[17:28:39] <yurip> is mpt still useful anywhere other than in vmware vms?[17:29:03] <arekinath> if you go down that road much further, you might as well not have illumos at all because there are other operating systems available[17:29:11] <ptribble> igork: that's why you have standards[17:29:22] <igork> yurip: mpt is very important with LSI 1068E on hw[17:29:24] <PMT> I believe virtualbox also can present that particular controller[17:29:35] <arekinath> but if they gotta good idea, we gonna steal it[17:29:52] <igork> yurip: example: sparc sun4v T5220, intel supermicro boards[17:30:07] <yurip> igork: and if "universal tools" means gnu one, then sorry, no, no way[17:30:08] <igork> i have old one X8[17:30:12] <PMT> older boards, they now use the mpt_sas chips :)[17:30:19] <ptribble> I know a lot of people who use illumos do so precisely because it's an independent implementation[17:30:27] <igork> PMT: you are incorrect[17:30:36] <igork> LSI1068E = mtp[17:30:40] <igork> mpt[17:31:08] <PMT> igork: yes? they now use the sas2xxx and sas3xxx chips[17:31:09] <yurip> "mpt_sas" is pretty stupid name[17:31:29] <PMT> i was not claiming the older boards used mpt_sas.[17:31:46] <igork> PMT: nope , only mpt drive with LSI1068E chip[17:32:28] <PMT> igork: i can't tell what you're arguing about - I'm agreeing with you that the older boards use that chip, I am saying that newer boards no longer use that chip, and I am quite certain of that.[17:32:57] <igork> newer has LSI3008 on boards[17:32:58] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has joined #illumos[17:33:03] <PMT> igork: yes, i said that.[17:33:24] <igork> but a lot of old hw available[17:33:35] <igork> also, scsi u320[17:34:11] <igork> what emulated on vmware[17:35:01] <yurip> yes, I was just wondering if it's worth investing time in implementing/testing the driver[17:36:14] <igork> yeah ... i want to do it a long time, but where can i find a time ...[17:36:56] *** neirac <neirac!~cnb@pc-241-139-100-190.cm.vtr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[18:08:12] *** thegattaca <thegattaca!~thegattac@209.58.144.169> has joined #illumos[18:09:53] *** mariusp <mariusp!~mariusp@78.96.17.132> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[18:16:37] *** alhazred <alhazred!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f882-144.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC ()[18:17:45] *** yurip <yurip!~yuri@62.183.126.193> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[18:20:50] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has joined #illumos[18:21:44] *** yurip <yurip!~yuri@62.183.126.193> has joined #illumos[18:22:07] *** dimonov1 <dimonov1!dimonov@188.172.155.54> has joined #illumos[18:22:17] <rmustacc> PMT: Do you happen to have any bnx to help test with?[18:23:12] *** alhazred <alhazred!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f882-144.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #illumos[18:24:09] <PMT> rmustacc: Sadly not, or I'd offer it for fun and testing.[18:24:40] <rmustacc> No worries.[18:24:47] *** man_u <man_u!~manu@manu2.gandi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[18:25:00] <rmustacc> I'm really trying to remember who complained over all the years. 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