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[09:58:07] <tsoome> igork: I did try FCoE long time ago with S11 (about 5 years ago), it was working back then:D
[10:00:18] <Agnar> tsoome: you need a NIC that supports that, right?
[10:02:45] <tsoome> not really, of course tcp offloading will help
[10:03:01] <tsoome> only thing it did require was jumbo frames
[10:04:00] <tsoome> I think something like 4k frames was minimum
[10:04:52] <tsoome> bubt I only did bbasic functionality test, nothing fancy
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[10:08:26] <tsoome> hrm… I have created some queue for advocates…
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[11:06:44] <Agnar> tsoome: good to know. at least for FCoE in linux only specific cards are supported.
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[12:58:52] <myrkraverk> What is FCoE? fiber-channel-over-ethernet?
[13:02:10] <igork> myrkraverk: yes
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[13:03:41] <myrkraverk> But what exactly is that? I thought fiber-channel was something with fiber "wires" while ethernet was twisted pair.
[13:05:16] <myrkraverk> Well, I'll google it later; now I"m working.
[13:05:19] <igork> myrkraverk: google can answer on this your question
[13:05:24] <myrkraverk> *nod*
[13:05:42] <igork> also wikipedia about FCoE with details
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[13:17:47] <tsoome> the blade servers are/were using FCoE with/for converged network support, but then again, apparently blades are going to be obsolete … :D
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[13:25:05] <yurip> why?
[13:27:49] <tsoome> replaced by rack servers again - blade systems are too complex and complicated
[13:29:34] <tsoome> this may be the local trend, but somehow I doubt
[13:32:38] <yurip> I see
[13:46:37] <Agnar> tsoome: fujitsu stopped producing bladeservers
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[13:50:59] <alp_> IBM has sold us PureFlex system, which they promote now instead of blades...
[13:53:58] <Agnar> my prev. company is going to buy a lot of the converged nutanix systems
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[14:36:59] <MarcelT_> rmustacc: I'm playing with a machine with HP P440ar controller and I found that stock cpqary3 does not work with it, but smrt from SmartOS does.
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[14:37:56] <MarcelT> Is my understanding correct that illumos 6113 was just useless attempt to achieve something that never had to work?
[14:40:17] <MarcelT> And, is there plan to upstream OS-5564 and friends (OS-5799 and OS-5565) in some near future?
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[16:17:00] <neirac> where are the compile flags specified when building illumos? I see -march=pentium being used
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[17:09:17] <rmustacc> MarcelT: I think the cpqary driver will work for it, but not in hba mode.
[17:09:37] <rmustacc> MarcelT: We'd like to upstream it; however, the big problem we have is that changing the driver name for a root pool device can cause ZFS to freak out.
[17:09:43] <rmustacc> So we're not sure how to do it in a safe way.
[17:10:28] <igork> rmustacc: it is known issue and can be fixed by boot from ISO
[17:10:33] <igork> or usb boot media
[17:10:54] <igork> the same issue if you migrate from SATA controller to SAS
[17:11:01] <rmustacc> neirac: I don't think we use any -march settings generally. But they get assembled in the individual leaf Makefiles and it includes other bits.
[17:11:09] <rmustacc> igork: Yes, and that's a terrible thing to force on most people.
[17:11:44] <rmustacc> The error message is opaque and its hard ot know what happened.
[17:11:53] <igork> they same issue if your motherboard dead
[17:12:16] <rmustacc> Yes, but if your motherboard died or you've changd your hardware, you're in a rather different case than taking a software update.
[17:12:43] <igork> ah, yes, understand your concern
[17:13:02] <igork> but - you have newBE with upgrade
[17:13:11] <igork> and you can go back if yuor boot failed
[17:13:13] <rmustacc> MarcelT: So we can look at upstreaming it, but we'd have to leave the assignment of device IDs to the user.
[17:14:08] <igork> rmustacc: about -march= - it is in cw with translation Studio flags to gcc and it really annoyed
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[17:14:46] <igork> cw was designed for old translations to older gcc version
[17:15:40] <igork> more useful will be drop cw and use flag per compiler like userland do: CFLAGS_gcc/CFLAGS_cc
[17:15:43] <igork> for example
[17:16:33] <igork> we are using gcc but build env still contain Studio flags in primary place and it is unusefull
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[17:24:26] <neirac> igork thanks for the explanation, so cw it's a translator from suncc flags to gcc ? something like that ?
[17:25:20] <igork> yes - right now is: SunStudio -> gcc
[17:25:38] <igork> you can see option like: cw -_gcc=""
[17:25:51] <igork> it mean - use direct gcc flags
[17:27:54] <igork> right now we have Studio flags in Makefiles
[17:28:08] <igork> and translate to gcc flags by cw = compiler wrapper
[17:28:52] <igork> + we provide additional flags to gcc build by -_gcc=
[17:29:24] <igork> you can find all info in full build log
[17:29:43] <neirac> igork, thanks a lot I'll take a look
[17:29:47] <igork> np
[17:45:35] <MarcelT> rmustacc: is it possible to change the device to do not operate in hba mode?
[17:45:54] <MarcelT> I didn't found anything in the firmware setup (IIRC)
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[17:57:25] <rmustacc> MarcelT: Is the device in an HP box?
[17:57:58] <rmustacc> Because when we were testing it we could switch back and forth between modes using the hp bios/efi management tools.
[17:58:05] <rmustacc> That said that cpqary3 driver is terrible.
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[19:07:01] <MarcelT> rmustacc: yes, it is HP ProLiant DL380 Gen9
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[19:15:45] <rmustacc> MarcelT: OK, so there's a way to get into what I think they might have called the HPSA or something.
[19:18:50] <MarcelT> yes, HPSSA
[19:18:54] <MarcelT> I already found it
[19:19:09] <MarcelT> but I'm not sure I want the RAID mode :-)
[19:21:50] <MarcelT> so cpqary3 should work with the controller in RAID mode only, while smrt will woth with either RAID or HBA, right?
[19:22:32] <MarcelT> s/woth/work/
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[19:33:10] <rmustacc> MarcelT: Yes, that's right.
[19:33:21] <rmustacc> I'd be pretty skeptical of the cpqary3 working under load.
[19:33:30] <rmustacc> That's why LeftWing originally wrote a new driver.
[19:35:08] <MarcelT> okay, good, so I'll backport smrt for our illumos fork then, thanks.
[19:35:55] <rmustacc> I can upstream that if it helps.
[19:36:05] <rmustacc> I just won't be able to assign PCI IDs by default.
[19:36:21] <rmustacc> But we did test it on the gen9 systems and verified that the SES bits worked in HBA mode.
[19:37:03] <MarcelT> the cherry-pick from illumos-joyent is not hard, so upstreaming won't help me much
[19:37:16] <MarcelT> but for future it would be great to have smrt in illumos
[19:38:27] <rmustacc> OK. I'll look at it, but I won't be able to assign PCI IDs to it by default for folks.
[19:39:24] <MarcelT> hm, while thinking about it, ... is the driver change really a problem for zfs? isn't it relying on device names only? (I assume they won't change)
[19:39:43] <rmustacc> MarcelT: The big change is that the /devices path changes because devices on the new driver are enumerated under iports.
[19:40:04] <rmustacc> Where as previously the old driver only enumerated hw raid parts.
[19:40:26] <rmustacc> I think there's also more use of the WWNs of the raid volumes in number, IIRC.
[19:41:28] <MarcelT> hm, okay, that might be a problem then
[19:41:29] <rmustacc> But I have to admit I haven't looked at this for a while.
[19:42:05] <MarcelT> nevermind, better upstream without pci ids assignment, than no upstream at all :-)
[19:43:11] <rmustacc> OK. That was the only reason we hadn't.
[19:43:20] <rmustacc> I'll toss that in the queue.
[19:43:30] <MarcelT> great, thanks :-)
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[20:35:26] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8911 loader: move ficl outb and inb into libi386 -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
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[21:07:02] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8812 xge: variable set but not used -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[21:07:03] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8813 rdsv3: variable 'timeo' set but not used -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[21:07:04] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8819 x86 unix: variable set but not used -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[21:07:05] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8822 libsmbfs: variable set but not used -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[21:07:06] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8823 print: variable 'error' set but not used -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[21:07:07] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8830 libshell: variable set but not used -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[21:07:08] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8843 libnls: variable 'version' set but not used -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[21:07:09] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8848 hbaapi: variable set but not used -- Toomas Soome <tsoome at me dot com>
[21:07:26] <tsoome> spam:)
[21:07:58] <yurip> all done?
[21:08:09] <tsoome> nop, there are few more
[21:08:18] <yurip> :\
[21:08:57] <tsoome> and among are ata and libnsl ones andy was having fun with, but I have no idea if he is going to collect them..
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[21:16:47] <gitomat> [illumos-gate] 8885 64-bit libbsm:adt_do_ipv[46]_address creates non-compressible at_port. -- Andy Fiddaman <omnios at citrus-it dot co.uk>
[21:17:40] <igork> i'm interested in when dtrace with kernel will be fixed with gcc6 build :)
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[21:18:20] <igork> it is ctfmerge issue to genunix
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[22:04:48] <tsoome> 8760 seems to be forgotten :)
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[22:10:40] <tsoome> and then there are 190 gcc7 commits:D
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[22:47:59] <yurip> what's the difference between shutdown and destroy zone callbacks?
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[23:02:41] <rmustacc> yurip: IIRC this pattern is used to indicate things going away versus safe to destroy.
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