December 5, 2017 
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If so, with what specialized knowledge do I need to arm myself?[05:50:20] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@2001:470:f0f4:a0a:a1e8:71aa:f76f:37bc> has joined #illumos[05:59:30] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@104-8-25-179.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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The sanest thing here is to remove TX patches from the tools, but it just a bit annoying :([07:44:25] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@46.147.222.204> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:45:19] <jzu_> tsoome: :)[08:06:00] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:d5bc:e10e:73d4:1e43> has joined #illumos[08:10:32] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:d5bc:e10e:73d4:1e43> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[08:10:32] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@55-114-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[08:11:10] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@195.208.255.81> has joined #illumos[08:13:50] *** sea-gull <sea-gull!~sea-gull@f194175.upc-f.chello.nl> has joined #illumos[08:20:01] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@113-19-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[08:25:37] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@5.28.150.83.ftth.ewwwb.as8758.net> has joined #illumos[08:27:55] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@121.238.64.125> has joined #illumos[08:37:35] *** jamesd 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<tsoome!~tsoome@158-104-157-37.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:59:58] *** alhazred <alhazred!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f882-144.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #illumos[10:07:30] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:8494:1b8b:e0d5:ba7e> has joined #illumos[10:12:02] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:8494:1b8b:e0d5:ba7e> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[10:20:35] *** ldepandis <ldepandis!~ldepandis@unaffiliated/ldepandis> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[10:24:41] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@195.208.255.81> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:35:05] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@185.39.197.205> has joined #illumos[10:38:41] <yurip> is that "trusted" stuff of any use in illumos?[10:43:50] *** man_u <man_u!~manu@manu2.gandi.net> has joined #illumos[11:08:15] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:b1f3:fdd:4a33:eaf9> has joined #illumos[11:12:47] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:b1f3:fdd:4a33:eaf9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[11:20:01] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:20:07] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #illumos[11:58:47] <alp_> yurip: the main use is to have less patches for our components, given that they originally had a lot of patches to support it :)[12:00:04] <alp_> I've removed a lot of it from gnome 2 and haven't imported patches into Mate , but sometimes I see them here and there[12:04:16] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@158-104-157-37.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #illumos[12:06:06] <alp_> the issue is that once you break libXtsol, you'll also likely break (closed source) motif library, and this will likely disappoint a lot of people[12:08:59] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:4470:357d:722b:c1c2> has joined #illumos[12:13:44] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:4470:357d:722b:c1c2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[12:20:14] <igork> alp_: how is working motif on Linux/OSX/BSD?[12:22:00] <alp_> they use openmotif[12:22:14] <igork> you know answer[12:22:32] <alp_> yes, but the question is in ABI compatibility[12:23:02] <alp_> earlier java and Oracle installer required motif libraries[12:23:09] <igork> again - how all components are working on others platforms?[12:23:17] <alp_> don't know if it's still the case[12:23:39] <alp_> yes, but they were likely built against libraries provided by linux distributions[12:23:43] <alp_> (read openmotif)[12:24:05] <igork> osx/sbd too ?[12:24:07] <igork> bsd[12:24:16] <igork> they are not using Linux[12:24:27] <alp_> bsd doesn't care much about commercial applications[12:24:58] <igork> ok, Linux - how they are working on?[12:25:13] <igork> with closed sources?[12:25:40] <igork> osx - too?[12:25:46] <alp_> they use openmotif. Applications were originally compiled against openmotif. On Solaris they were compiled against motif. Will they work with openmotif? Who knows....[12:26:20] <igork> why you stick with solaris?[12:26:36] <igork> oracle solaris - another story a long time[12:27:11] <igork> if you need your applications to be working on your platform - port/update[12:27:13] <alp_> I want to say that if we want to break motif and replace it with openmotif, we should investigate ABI issues[12:27:25] <alp_> Oracle 11gR2 works fine on OI[12:27:47] <alp_> And as you understand, nobody is going to port it :)[12:27:59] <igork> :)[12:28:20] <igork> alp_: as i said to you before - if _YOU_ need[12:28:44] <igork> i'm porting/updating apps what i needs on dilos[12:39:14] <ptribble> Both from documentation and experience, Solaris motif and the open motif aren't binary compatible[12:42:15] <ptribble> AFAIK, the underlying trusted bits ought to still work[12:44:26] <ptribble> Whether you can build a trusted system is another matter[12:46:23] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[12:46:39] <ptribble> I can sort of make it work, but I'm not sure I would trust it[13:09:45] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:615a:c05a:53e1:e205> has joined #illumos[13:14:17] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:615a:c05a:53e1:e205> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:19:02] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@158-104-157-37.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[13:20:14] <Agnar> ptribble: sun heavily patched CDE and also motif as it seems. in parts from CDE I think they even re-wrote some parts completely[13:20:29] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@185.39.197.205> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[13:21:23] <Agnar> there are some legacy motif applications that still might be used: for example the solaris citrix client 8.5[13:22:12] <Agnar> afaik the oracle database has no links against motif (the installer and assitants are java with an awful gui toolkit used)[13:23:28] <Agnar> but we could provide openmotif as a variant and have a survey what users think and who is impacted by the change.[13:26:17] <nbjoerg> openmotif is dead[13:26:22] <nbjoerg> it's just motif nowadays[13:26:26] <Agnar> igork: and OI should stick a bit to solaris, because it is the last distro that does that. there are still people who want to keep their legacy stuff[13:26:49] <Agnar> nbjoerg: sure, but suns motif version is different[13:27:25] <Agnar> nbjoerg: so, to not confuse people more, let's say motif for the old sun motif and openmotif for the newer open sourced motif[13:27:46] *** jcea <jcea!~Thunderbi@2001:41d0:1:8a82:7670:6e00:7670:6e00> has joined #illumos[13:28:24] <nbjoerg> lgpl-motif :)[13:28:32] <igork> Agnar: :)[13:28:57] <igork> i'm not sure, but it is OI specific and not impact me[13:32:00] <Agnar> bbl...sitting in a jboss class for my new job ;)[13:33:25] <igork> congrats :)[13:34:03] <Agnar> thanks ;)[13:34:36] <Agnar> (currently in amsterdam, next week luxembourg)[13:38:11] <wilbury> hi agnar[13:38:56] <Agnar> hi wilbury[13:39:11] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@185.39.197.205> has joined #illumos[13:39:29] <wilbury> what did just...? new job? i want new job, too.[13:39:54] <Agnar> I'm becoming a trainer for redhat jboss[13:40:48] <wilbury> ah ok, the one who does not know it the one teaches it.[13:40:50] <wilbury> ;-)[13:41:07] <Agnar> ;)[13:41:36] <Agnar> i've done a bunch of stuff with weblogic, websphere and glassfish...so the topic itself is not so new for me ;)[13:41:49] <Agnar> actually just a few details[13:43:28] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@49.66.99.41> has joined #illumos[13:56:00] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@55-114-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #illumos[14:08:57] *** pvs_ <pvs_!~pvs@lopsa/member/pvs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[14:09:40] *** pvs <pvs!~pvs@lopsa/member/pvs> has joined #illumos[14:10:43] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:79b3:ae96:f58d:badd> has joined #illumos[14:13:47] *** leah2 <leah2!~leah@vuxu.org> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:14:33] *** leah2 <leah2!~leah@vuxu.org> has joined #illumos[14:15:11] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:79b3:ae96:f58d:badd> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[14:22:34] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@104-8-25-179.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #illumos[14:32:44] <denk> I do stat(2) and fstat(2) for the same block device but the result is defferent, could somebody explain it to me?[14:32:56] <denk> I need st_size field[14:52:09] *** tozhu1 <tozhu1!~Thunderbi@171.209.64.231> has joined #illumos[14:53:01] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@49.66.99.41> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:53:02] *** tozhu1 is now known as tozhu[15:06:33] *** CME <CME!~CME@ipb2181ad5.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[15:11:31] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:55b9:65ea:9f5c:a35b> has joined #illumos[15:14:06] *** polishdub <polishdub!~polishdub@ip68-2-32-224.ph.ph.cox.net> has joined #illumos[15:16:14] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:55b9:65ea:9f5c:a35b> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:30:49] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@static-108-48-124-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #illumos[15:35:40] <yurip> heh[15:37:50] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@98.13.72.207> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:41:51] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@171.209.64.231> has quit IRC (Quit: tozhu)[15:42:09] <yurip> denk: https://github.com/illumos/illumos-gate/commit/22c8b9583d07895c16549075a53668d7bc988cf3[15:42:42] <yurip> exactly the same problem, I naively made it use stat(2) which didn't report st_size properly[15:44:20] *** clickjack <clickjack!~clickjack@90.95.19.47> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[15:44:24] <yurip> and https://www.illumos.org/issues/8352[15:45:39] *** clickjack <clickjack!~clickjack@90.95.19.47> has joined #illumos[15:45:59] <yurip> err, made it use fstat(2), of course, which simply didn't work[15:47:32] <denk> it's another question, but not the answer[15:47:43] <denk> thanks anyway[15:48:19] <yurip> you want to know "why"?[15:48:38] <denk> yeah[15:52:19] <igork> yurip: only russian answer - 'because' ? ;)[15:52:47] *** eripa <eripa!~eripa@h-170-182.A183.priv.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[15:57:57] *** jelmd <jelmd!~purple@port-ip-88-150-100-20.reverse.mdcc-fun.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:59:11] <jbk> i think the problem the size looks like '-1' (which for something on devfs wouldn't seem too unreasonable)[15:59:24] <jbk> just diff between 64/32bit[16:00:04] *** eripa <eripa!~eripa@h-170-182.A183.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #illumos[16:01:00] *** tomoyat1 <tomoyat1!~tomoyat1@tomoyat1.com> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.6.5 - http://znc.in)[16:01:19] <denk> st_size is not -1[16:01:20] <denk> (gdb) p /x 9223372036854775807[16:01:21] <denk> $1 = 0x7fffffffffffffff[16:01:29] *** tomoyat1 <tomoyat1!~tomoyat1@tomoyat1.com> has joined #illumos[16:07:07] *** danmcd <danmcd!~danmcd@static-71-174-113-16.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC ()[16:10:41] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #illumos[16:12:14] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:4dca:4f21:2bc0:76be> has joined #illumos[16:14:43] <yurip> which is -1[16:16:02] <denk> (gdb) p /x (unsigned long long)-1[16:16:02] <denk> $2 = 0xffffffffffffffff[16:16:02] <yurip> igork: yeah :D I didn't look into why, so don't have better answer[16:16:14] <igork> :)[16:16:32] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:4dca:4f21:2bc0:76be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:17:20] <yurip> off_t is long long, signed[16:18:05] <denk> (gdb) p /x (signed long long)-1[16:18:05] <denk> $1 = 0xffffffffffffffff[16:18:14] <denk> something else? :)[16:18:15] <yurip> :-)[16:18:44] <igork> but 0x7fffffffffffffff < 0xffffffffffffffff[16:18:46] <igork> :)[16:19:45] <denk> I'd like to read a good answer[16:20:30] <igork> good answer will be - try to find it (answer) by youself :)[16:20:55] <yurip> oh, sometimes I DO agree with Igor[16:21:08] <igork> hehe :)[16:22:09] <igork> yurip: another topic: why not upstream updates for pvscsi to illumos from nexenta tree?[16:23:05] <igork> this one https://www.illumos.org/issues/8881[16:23:17] <igork> or you have better update?[16:23:19] <yurip> I didn't think it would bite anyone[16:23:39] <igork> i have this panic :)[16:23:45] <igork> and it annoyed me[16:24:05] <igork> but i have found your update on nexenta tree :)[16:26:38] *** thegattaca <thegattaca!~thegattac@209.58.148.155> has joined #illumos[16:28:57] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...)[16:35:46] *** danmcd <danmcd!~danmcd@static-71-174-113-16.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has joined #illumos[16:36:20] <yurip> igork: could you also try http://cr.illumos.org/~webrev/yurip/pvscsi/ and see if it helps with other panic you reported?[16:36:47] <yurip> that's work in progress as I'm just learning all this stuff really[16:37:19] <igork> you have removed PVSCSI_FLAG_RESET_DEV ?[16:37:29] <igork> and it is PVSCSI_FLAG_TRANSPORT now ?[16:38:36] <igork> also, i have no reproduce for my another panic after some sd update + latest pvscsi update[16:44:24] <yurip> I've updated webrev with details[16:44:26] <denk> yurip, jbk, the answer about stat(2) is here: http://src.illumos.org/source/xref/illumos-gate/usr/src/uts/common/syscall/stat.c#194[16:44:30] <denk> in the comments[16:45:07] <igork> as always - read sources instead of read man pages :)[16:45:34] <yurip> soooo, now you just need to update the man page :D[16:45:45] <igork> i think we can put one line to every man page - go to sources tree :)[16:46:37] <yurip> then we just need 1 man page[16:46:41] <igork> and URL=src.illumos.org[16:46:57] <igork> yes - one man page - and will be correct :)[16:47:22] <yurip> isn't it what linux does forwarding to info?[16:47:28] <yurip> or whatever BS they use[16:48:16] <igork> linux some interest time to time: you can see reference to man page from info and revert :)[16:48:44] *** alhazred <alhazred!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f882-144.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC ()[16:50:50] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@50-247-80-230-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #illumos[16:51:28] <igork> i can confirm #8867 - transceiver is working with chelsio cxgbe[17:00:39] *** thegattaca <thegattaca!~thegattac@209.58.148.155> has quit IRC (Quit: Sleepy...)[17:01:09] <jbk> actually I'd suggest at least filing an issue -- as a consumer of interfaces, you shouldn't have to consult the source[17:01:17] <jbk> and that seems like behavior that should be mentioned[17:02:05] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc92716-cmbg20-2-0-cust138.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:04:10] *** Kruppt <Kruppt!~Kruppt@50.111.47.198> has joined #illumos[17:08:30] <yurip> 8352[17:09:12] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@50-247-80-230-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:09:14] *** vaxsquid <vaxsquid!~vaxsquid@13.ip-145-239-92.eu> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:12:34] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@5.28.150.83.ftth.ewwwb.as8758.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:18:21] *** alhazred <alhazred!~Alex@dsl-lprbng11-54f882-144.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #illumos[17:33:35] *** ngchk1 <ngchk1!~wilkens@business-178-015-081-200.static.arcor-ip.net> has joined #illumos[17:37:40] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has joined #illumos[17:39:01] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc92716-cmbg20-2-0-cust138.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has joined #illumos[17:42:55] *** dap_ <dap_!~dap@208.184.5.170> has joined #illumos[17:46:01] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@2001:470:f0f4:a0a:e90b:4fb1:51d4:fb21> has joined #illumos[18:03:26] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:10:04] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@50-247-80-230-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #illumos[18:10:34] *** englishm_work <englishm_work!uid217629@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ydzwgdyufkzzscev> has joined #illumos[18:14:39] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@50-247-80-230-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[18:19:10] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has joined #illumos[18:26:26] *** thegattaca <thegattaca!~thegattac@209.58.148.155> has joined #illumos[18:36:59] <yurip> hm, how do you "expand" rpool? setting autoexpand=on and increasing the underlying lun size didn't seem to do the trick (after reboot)[18:39:41] <igork> yurip: you can try : zpool online -e rpool[18:39:45] <igork> on VM[18:40:01] <yurip> sure, tried that[18:40:20] <yurip> it needs the device name as well, and doesn't help[18:40:30] <igork> i tried to do it on kvm VM - it worked in one time, but not at all time[18:41:32] <igork> i do more time (if need update rpool size): add new bigger drive to VM > attache it as mirror to rpool[18:41:43] *** headw <headw!~headw@209.63.38.162> has joined #illumos[18:42:22] <igork> for example: you can add more space to current rpool, but it is not expandable[18:42:34] *** sea-gull_ <sea-gull_!~sea-gull@f194175.upc-f.chello.nl> has joined #illumos[18:42:38] <igork> and triks with mirror attache/detach are working[18:44:16] <igork> also - new issue with loader: you can add another drive and try to do :[18:44:16] <igork> zpool create rpool2[18:44:16] <igork> beadm create -p rpool2 newBE[18:44:42] <igork> but - it create new /rpool2/boot/menu.lst[18:45:01] <igork> and with reboot - you missed it in /rpool/boot/menu.lst[18:45:02] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:45:29] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@185.39.197.205> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[18:45:40] <igork> yes - you can update it manually and produce reboot and found new entry by: beadm list - in loader[18:45:49] <igork> but - it is pain usecase[18:46:10] <igork> i tried to do it couple of days ago[18:46:46] <igork> because i wanted to upgrade rpool with pvscsi to use 4k drive[18:51:51] *** CME <CME!~CME@ipb2181a88.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #illumos[18:54:51] *** insane^ <insane^!~insane@p200300D38BD357005500668CEC8E48B1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #illumos[18:57:48] *** jollyd <jollyd!~alarcher@dhcp-46-249-226-11.loqal.no> has joined #illumos[19:10:46] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:3500:f1e1:62b8:1b8a> has joined #illumos[19:11:39] *** jacobs <jacobs!~jacobs@2603:300a:1618:b200:1920:4316:2e16:898a> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:13:19] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@46.147.222.204> has joined #illumos[19:15:11] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:3500:f1e1:62b8:1b8a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[19:15:30] *** insane^^ <insane^^!~insane@p200300D38BD357005500668CEC8E48B1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #illumos[19:18:50] *** insane^ <insane^!~insane@p200300D38BD357005500668CEC8E48B1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[19:20:07] *** ldepandis <ldepandis!~ldepandis@unaffiliated/ldepandis> has joined #illumos[19:25:56] *** man_u <man_u!~manu@manu2.gandi.net> has quit IRC (Quit: man_u)[19:35:58] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has joined #illumos[19:39:06] *** sea-gull_ <sea-gull_!~sea-gull@f194175.upc-f.chello.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:47:14] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@83.150.60.190> has joined #illumos[20:04:48] *** natkin <natkin!~textual@104-8-25-179.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Git has a fairly simple rename detection heuristic, and I think we hard-code a similarity threshold[23:17:13] <ptribble> Yup. (Moving a manpage from one section to another.)[23:18:01] <LeftWing> In "webrev.sh", there is a function "git_wxfile"[23:18:11] <LeftWing> You might want to try a value lower than 75 for the rename check[23:18:38] *** h2o666 <h2o666!~h2o666@2603:3024:e05:c500:c55d:f96e:e5da:b7ad> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:18:54] <ptribble> Thanks. 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