December 1, 2016 
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December 1, 2016 [00:04:32] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@104.228.216.170> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:12:35] *** trentm <trentm!~Adium@S01061c1b689f0aa5.vn.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:15:08] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@static-108-48-124-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[00:16:12] *** jcea <jcea!~Thunderbi@ks27448.kimsufi.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:17:02] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@cpe-104-228-216-170.maine.res.rr.com> has joined #illumos[00:17:05] *** jcea <jcea!~Thunderbi@ks27448.kimsufi.com> has joined #illumos[00:19:49] *** edef <edef!edefnathan@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-dappapcmcajlfctp> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:19:49] *** edef <edef!edefnathan@unaffiliated/nathan7> has joined #illumos[00:19:49] *** edef <edef!edefnathan@unaffiliated/nathan7> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:19:49] *** edef <edef!edefnathan@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-dappapcmcajlfctp> has joined #illumos[00:20:41] <rmustacc> Anyone feel like they know SPC/SBC well enough to bounce an idea off of?[00:22:35] <richlowe> maybe trisk sometimes?[00:22:58] <richlowe> sometimes hard to distinguish knowing them, and having a copy handy though.[00:23:15] <richlowe> if it helps, I don't know a damn thing, but I can search them pretty fast?[00:35:12] <Kurlon> I have no idea what that is but now I'm curious.[00:35:54] <rmustacc> SCSI Primary Commands and SCSI Block Commands[00:36:08] <rmustacc> Nominal standards implemented by questionable firmware.[00:39:44] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.87.183> has joined #illumos[00:40:10] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has quit IRC (Quit: andy_js)[00:40:55] <wilbury> "questionable" what an euphemism[00:41:00] <Kurlon> Ah, so stuff like reserving devices for specific initiators, etc?[00:41:25] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@93-195-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[00:41:26] <Kurlon> And VAAI wierdness?[00:41:40] *** ngchk1 <ngchk1!~wilkens@business-178-015-081-200.static.arcor-ip.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:41:53] <rmustacc> Reading and writing blocks of data, turning on and off the drive, asking it what it is.[00:41:59] <rmustacc> Maybe that other stuff is there, but I don't touch it.[00:42:02] <wilbury> SCSI TUR, SCSI INQ?[00:42:03] <pcd> tsoome: was reading over the nextboot stuff to see how it worked, left a few comments[00:42:21] <tsoome> yep, just writing:)[00:42:50] <pcd> ah, cool[00:43:30] *** jcea <jcea!~Thunderbi@ks27448.kimsufi.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:43:43] *** jcea <jcea!~Thunderbi@ks27448.kimsufi.com> has joined #illumos[00:44:01] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.87.183> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:45:41] <wilbury> obtw. is it still valid that hp microserver gen8 runs illumos?[00:47:08] *** denk <denk!~denis@devel.tambov.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[00:47:55] *** denk <denk!~denis@devel.tambov.ru> has joined #illumos[00:48:59] <Kurlon> HP is still making those?[00:49:02] <Kurlon> Interesting.[00:49:40] *** gila <gila!~textual@5ED4FE92.cm-7-5d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[00:50:46] *** trentm <trentm!~Adium@S01061c1b689f0aa5.vn.shawcable.net> has joined #illumos[00:53:17] <wilbury> Kurlon: yes, they do.[00:53:33] <Kurlon> Hrmm, two bays are SATA 6gbps, two are 3Gbps. Why HP, why?![00:53:57] <wilbury> yes, this is a PITA[01:02:03] <Kurlon> Anyone else making a comperable type system with possibly more ZFS friendly specs?[01:05:04] <Kurlon> I'm looking to redo my home network, got a bunch of systems to consolidate, plus I need some hefty archive storage for my wife who's big into photography so I'd like 4 3.5" SATA bays minimum.[01:23:24] *** ericray <ericray!~ejray@157.97.121.29> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[01:33:12] *** Bryson <Bryson!~bryson@ip68-108-89-198.lv.lv.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bryson)[01:34:45] *** psy0rz <psy0rz!psy@lounge.datux.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[01:36:26] *** psy0rz <psy0rz!psy@lounge.datux.nl> has joined #illumos[01:43:59] <Kurlon> Dell is blowing out T20s that Reddit Home Server lists as the competitor.[01:44:08] *** trentm <trentm!~Adium@S01061c1b689f0aa5.vn.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[01:44:47] *** Riastradh <Riastradh!~riastradh@netbsd/developer/riastradh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:44:54] *** daleg <daleg!~daleg@static-108-48-124-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC ()[01:48:11] *** ericray <ericray!~ejray@73.95.137.105> has joined #illumos[01:49:09] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.87.183> has joined #illumos[01:50:53] <nahamu> Freenas Mini??[01:54:24] *** makruger <makruger!~Michael@pool-108-20-232-57.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has joined #illumos[01:59:58] <Kurlon> Not really price competitive, but slick looking chassis.[02:00:45] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@79.175.115.192> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:06:08] <Kurlon> Might be the way to roll if I can convince my wife the cost is worth it.[02:08:24] *** trentm1 <trentm1!~Adium@2605:8d80:484:afa0:a0d2:3a40:f2ac:9685> has joined #illumos[02:20:00] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:20:06] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #illumos[02:21:27] *** shyu <shyu!~shyu@106.38.122.6> has joined #illumos[02:23:25] *** jhendricks1 <jhendricks1!~jhendrick@8.12.47.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:41:00] *** Bryson <Bryson!~bryson@ip68-108-89-198.lv.lv.cox.net> has joined #illumos[02:54:57] *** trentm1 <trentm1!~Adium@2605:8d80:484:afa0:a0d2:3a40:f2ac:9685> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:57:58] *** ivo_ <ivo_!~Ivo@unaffiliated/ivo/x-7575225> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[03:00:50] * gwr hoping my RTI for 7619-7623 gets some action soon...[03:01:33] <richlowe> like I'm gonna put my email address on a change like that.[03:02:53] <gwr> richlowe is a chicken! :)[03:03:31] <gwr> I already managed to annoy vociferous European...[03:04:08] <gwr> (and no, I don't really bother reading those emails:)[03:04:50] <richlowe> gwr: If nobody beats me, ping me tomorrow.[03:05:03] *** heroux <heroux!~heroux@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-bjynipgyjtpsldkp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[03:05:40] *** makruger <makruger!~Michael@pool-108-20-232-57.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[03:05:46] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@2001:470:f0f4:a0a:8476:3f65:6060:10f> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[03:06:13] *** heroux <heroux!sandroco@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-brpwpcbnbmfwjwxl> has joined #illumos[03:06:14] <richlowe> gwr: don't you need your new devlink module in an unincorporated package, too?[03:07:24] <richlowe> oh, you did, I just misjudged what your commas were doing.[03:07:44] *** Bryson <Bryson!~bryson@ip68-108-89-198.lv.lv.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Bryson)[03:07:46] <richlowe> gwr: yeah, if nobody else does I can get it tomorrow.[03:11:20] *** ivo_ <ivo_!~Ivo@unaffiliated/ivo/x-7575225> has joined #illumos[03:16:33] *** anniz <anniz!~anniz@c83-250-15-118.bredband.comhem.se> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:22:42] *** shyu <shyu!~shyu@106.38.122.6> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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https://www.thelayoff.com/t/KBEVoB1[14:23:52] <tsoome> is is actually true or just another angry outburst?:P[14:26:21] <dagbrown> Solaris being canned? Gosh, how will the Illumos community deal with such a calamity[14:26:29] *** ira_ <ira_!~ira@samba/team/ira> has joined #illumos[14:27:20] <dagbrown> I'm sure Joyent and Omniti will be devastated to learn of the extra influx of talent they'll be able to hire[14:28:24] <MarcelT> At least "There will be no Solaris 12, final release will be 11.4." seems to be true.[14:28:36] <sjorge> danmcd, ack[14:28:36] <alp> if it's true, in long run this is a big problem for us[14:28:46] <sjorge> So still a long way away from making it to gate then[14:29:15] <alp> who does care about a clone of non-existing OS...[14:29:36] <MarcelT> illumos is not a clone[14:30:09] <alp> I mean application developers even now don't think about Solaris[14:30:23] <alp> I don't think they will care about us when it disappears[14:30:26] <MarcelT> and as time goes it is less and less similar to Solaris[14:32:52] <dagbrown> Well the Solaris kernel is still very solid[14:35:48] <sjorge> Now e need a rich person to pick up the solaris brand name and give it to illumos :p[14:35:49] <tsoome> does anyone want to hire solaris admin/architect, illumos developer, freebsd developer? I mean, someone like me?;)[14:35:55] <tsoome> :D[14:35:58] <sjorge> tsoome, banks[14:36:07] <tsoome> I am in one, it sucks[14:36:07] <sjorge> They seem to be looking for solaris folks here[14:36:23] <tsoome> they are moving to linux.[14:36:30] <sjorge> Oh, interesting[14:36:40] <tsoome> well, here, at least.[14:36:45] <sjorge> Things here seem to move very very slow and they usually still have tons of Solaris[14:37:09] <tsoome> yea, if you fancy managing stucc like vxvm on top of solaris 8...[14:37:14] <tsoome> stuff*[14:37:23] *** psychicist__ <psychicist__!~psychicis@wlan-145-94-156-208.wlan.tudelft.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[14:37:41] <tsoome> or if you are lucky, solaris 10;)[14:37:56] <dagbrown> There are lots of companies out there which specialize in legacy support[14:38:20] <sjorge> UGent kicked out the last Solaris boxes last month[14:38:28] <dagbrown> The Solaris 10 at my place of work essentially amounts to a custom distro of the OS at this point[14:38:32] 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I strangle my own goddamned neck when I can't route this way.[20:26:49] <igork> also you can use 'screen' on remote host[20:27:50] *** matejz_ <matejz_!~matejz@element.planetq.org> has joined #illumos[20:29:10] *** Alek <Alek!~Alek@140.174.232.4> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[20:29:30] *** Alek <Alek!~Alek@140.174.232.4> has joined #illumos[20:29:49] *** matejz <matejz!~matejz@element.planetq.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:29:49] *** matejz_ is now known as matejz[20:29:53] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[20:30:25] <richlowe> danmcd: I keep meaning to buy a cheap ubiquiti router or whatever, but then stuff clears up for a while.[20:30:43] <richlowe> but I'm not sure I'd trust this piece of shit to work in bridging mode, either.[20:30:47] <danmcd> I went to a DD-WRT on mine, even though it's a bridge.[20:31:02] <danmcd> Only flaw I've found is likely one I can configure out of existence, but I've been too lazy to do it.[20:31:08] <richlowe> I've basically gone Verizon -> Cox -> TWC[20:31:16] <richlowe> which I assume are the top 3 circles of hell.[20:31:22] <richlowe> I look forward to discovering #4![20:31:38] <danmcd> The only cable company equipment I use from VZ is their ONT and one cablecard.[20:31:40] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #illumos[20:32:00] <pmooney> richlowe: Comcast incoming[20:32:07] <danmcd> THeir "free biz-class router/wifi" is on my wall unplugged since 2009.[20:48:28] *** Alek <Alek!~Alek@140.174.232.4> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[20:55:09] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@static-108-48-124-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #illumos[20:56:57] *** Alek <Alek!~Alek@140.174.232.4> has joined #illumos[21:03:37] *** gila <gila!~textual@5ED4FE92.cm-7-5d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #illumos[21:03:51] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@109.121.48.116> has joined #illumos[21:05:27] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@static-108-48-124-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[21:08:44] *** zmalone_ <zmalone_!cf6d3566@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.109.53.102> has joined #illumos[21:11:00] *** zmalone <zmalone!cf6d3566@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.109.53.102> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:13:39] *** zmalone_ is now known as zmalone[21:17:05] *** ericray_ <ericray_!~ejray@c-76-25-145-48.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ericray_)[21:18:22] *** Obscurax <Obscurax!Obscurax@2607:fe90:4:b:5054::30> has joined #illumos[21:19:24] *** Qatz <Qatz!~DB@2601:187:8400:5::427> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[21:19:37] *** Alek <Alek!~Alek@140.174.232.4> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[21:20:00] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:20:06] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #illumos[21:20:33] *** ericray_ <ericray_!~ejray@c-76-25-145-48.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #illumos[21:22:12] *** estibi <estibi!~estibi@edo198144.sne.jp> has left #illumos[21:22:12] *** estibi <estibi!~estibi@edo198144.sne.jp> has joined #illumos[21:22:15] *** slx86 <slx86!~Thunderbi@46-129-44-239.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: slx86)[21:28:28] *** Qatz <Qatz!~DB@2601:187:8400:5::427> has joined #illumos[21:28:56] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@109.121.48.116> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[21:28:57] *** ericray <ericray!~ejray@c-76-25-145-48.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ericray)[21:28:57] *** ericray_ is now known as ericray[21:30:58] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@109-121-18-73.adsl-a-5.sezampro.rs> has joined #illumos[21:37:19] *** SIN3R6Y1 <SIN3R6Y1!~Thunderbi@cpe-24-209-221-100.cinci.res.rr.com> has joined #illumos[21:37:28] *** SIN3R6Y <SIN3R6Y!~Thunderbi@cpe-24-209-221-100.cinci.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:37:28] *** SIN3R6Y1 is now known as SIN3R6Y[21:40:24] *** headw01 <headw01!~billhead@209.63.38.162> has joined #illumos[21:41:48] *** khalfell_ <khalfell_!~khalfella@cpe-2606-A000-4002-F900-1C9-DD6D-8A4C-1CA0.dyn6.twc.com> has joined #illumos[21:42:45] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@unaffiliated/sjorge> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[21:45:08] *** khalfella <khalfella!~khalfella@cpe-2606-A000-4002-F900-964-B01A-1329-3AE2.dyn6.twc.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:50:24] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@d5152645C.access.telenet.be> has joined #illumos[21:50:24] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@d5152645C.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:50:24] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@unaffiliated/sjorge> has joined #illumos[21:52:18] <estibi> rmustacc: how recent is this review? https://us-east.manta.joyent.com/rmustacc/public/webrevs/xhci/index.html[21:52:30] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@109-121-18-73.adsl-a-5.sezampro.rs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:54:02] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@109-121-35-48.adsl-a-7.sezampro.rs> has joined #illumos[21:55:05] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@static-108-48-124-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #illumos[22:04:56] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@109-121-35-48.adsl-a-7.sezampro.rs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[22:05:52] <richlowe> Nov 9th[22:06:03] <richlowe> (mls -l of the index.html)[22:06:53] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@77.105.27.61> has joined #illumos[22:08:27] <estibi> yeah, but there is also one review on https://cr.joyent.us/#/c/872[22:09:06] <richlowe> given the commit date on that is the 23rd, it seems reasonable to assume it's going to be newer?[22:09:30] <richlowe> given there's also a history, that shows it being updated since the 9th.[22:11:30] *** rmesta <rmesta!~rmesta@cpe-70-114-131-66.austin.res.rr.com> has joined #illumos[22:11:30] *** rmesta <rmesta!~rmesta@cpe-70-114-131-66.austin.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:16:04] <tsoome> it will be newer, I bet;)[22:16:39] <tsoome> as I’m currently testing it and helping to identify some issues;)[22:16:54] <estibi> yes and there a lot of changes[22:18:02] *** Alek <Alek!~Alek@140.174.232.4> has joined #illumos[22:18:03] <estibi> there are*[22:20:37] <estibi> tsoome: any known issues?[22:21:28] *** ira_ is now known as ira[22:22:02] <tsoome> the device detection and setup can be issue in some combinations.[22:22:33] *** chris2 <chris2!~chris@vuxu.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[22:22:51] *** tomww <tomww!~tom@unaffiliated/tomww> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:23:30] <tsoome> the usb3/usb2 identification, tear down on unplug and stuff like that[22:25:08] <tsoome> it will take some time to nail out the bugs anyhow, just the good question is, at which point it is “good enough” for most cases, so we would not get angry people right from the beginning;)[22:26:43] <rmustacc> estibi: There are still a bunch of issues I'm working through and there are more updates needed in general.[22:28:12] <estibi> rmustacc: I added first note, but I'm not sure if you see it[22:30:24] <rmustacc> Sorry, note where?[22:30:46] <rmustacc> I'll likely have an update on the developer thread soonish I hope.[22:30:54] <estibi> rmustacc: I'm sorry I can't use gerrit, it says draft[22:30:56] <estibi> https://cr.joyent.us/#/c/872/3/usr/src/man/man7d/usba.7d[22:31:23] <richlowe> don't diss gerrit, you might discourage LeftWing.[22:31:24] <estibi> rmustacc: you removed: Architecture PCI-based systems[22:31:41] <rmustacc> Yes, I did.[22:31:50] <richlowe> and anything that kills both webrev _and_ advocates@ can't be bad.[22:32:32] <estibi> rmustacc: I know it's a silly question, but why? :)[22:32:56] <rmustacc> Not a silly question.[22:33:10] <rmustacc> Mostly because it seemed like the mandoc transition had dropped that.[22:33:22] <rmustacc> And I didn't know if that fact added value or not.[22:33:26] <richlowe> it doesn't.[22:33:41] <richlowe> It says "Not the Ultra 2, which some of you may remember"[22:33:43] <rmustacc> Tell you if it works on x86/SPARC seems useful.[22:37:27] <richlowe> questionably so[22:37:38] <richlowe> since we probably shouldn't deliver the manual page to the platform things don't work on :)[22:39:08] <rmustacc> Yeah, that's valid.[22:40:28] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc108961-cmbg20-2-0-cust21.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:40:40] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@unaffiliated/sjorge> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[22:42:20] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@77.105.27.61> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[22:42:23] <rmustacc> estibi: In terms of gerrit mechanics, everything starts as a draft, like reviewboard. FWIW.[22:43:21] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@37.112.239.96> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:44:11] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@77.105.16.72> has joined #illumos[22:44:22] <richlowe> does it stop being a draft predictably and happily?[22:44:34] <richlowe> my #1 RB gripe is the number of times I've managed to not publish things.[22:45:27] <yurip> ouch, what's wrong with webrev?[22:45:40] <tsoome> I’m missing the “hints” and “similar stuff” thing in reviewboard[22:46:18] <tsoome> webrev has major issue - all feedback is outside webrev[22:46:34] <tsoome> the views are nice, but rest is just missing[22:46:40] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@d5152645C.access.telenet.be> has joined #illumos[22:46:40] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@d5152645C.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Changing host)[22:46:40] *** sjorge <sjorge!~sjorge@unaffiliated/sjorge> has joined #illumos[22:46:53] <rmustacc> yurip: My impression is that it's sometimes harder to leave a lot of feedback and make sure you don't miss a piece of it. Particularly when there's a lot of feedback.[22:47:18] <estibi> webrev has html man pages[22:47:20] <tsoome> I sort of do like the phabricator (altho it has some annoying bugs)[22:47:31] <tsoome> estibi: +1[22:47:36] <tsoome> thats huge bonus[22:47:53] <richlowe> we'll just force yurip to implement it for whatever else too ;)[22:47:57] <rmustacc> Yeah, it's something I miss and something LeftWing mentioned about adding to gerrit. ;)[22:48:40] <tsoome> but, the history, subscribers, finding “similar” stuff.. those are quite important[22:50:06] <rmustacc> I really only used it here because we have it rigged up such that anyone with a github account can post comments, etc. Though the new user guide may be something to follow.[22:50:30] <rmustacc> Because I know I've lost feedback when someone replies privately and not on list and it takes time for me to get back to things.[22:50:37] <tsoome> the gerrit is the one used in joyent?[22:50:48] <rmustacc> We've recently started using it for all of our stuff.[22:51:22] <rmustacc> Mostly just since I was reviewing things with everyone there and will be landing it first there to deal with blast radius, I figured that was the simplest way.[22:51:25] <rmustacc> May not be.[22:53:51] <tsoome> once thing with phabricator I do like is that it’s tracking the review status - if it is accepted, or when you post an update, the review status will get reset, so you need to get people to check it over, little things…[22:54:32] <rmustacc> Yeah, that's there as well.[22:56:42] <tsoome> in RB i can have 4 positive votes from 2 persons and latest update still not reviewd:)[22:56:50] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has joined #illumos[23:00:05] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:01:12] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:04:01] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@173-11-44-141-Minnesota.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[23:14:00] *** matejz <matejz!~matejz@element.planetq.org> has quit IRC (Quit: matejz)[23:14:09] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@50-93-248-179.fttp.usinternet.com> has joined #illumos[23:20:54] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@77.105.16.72> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:22:26] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@79.175.72.170> has joined #illumos[23:33:47] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@93-195-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #illumos[23:34:10] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@cpe-104-228-216-170.maine.res.rr.com> has joined #illumos[23:41:49] *** Alek <Alek!~Alek@140.174.232.4> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:52:32] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@static-108-48-124-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:57:57] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@79.175.72.170> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:59:29] *** psychicist__ <psychicist__!~psychicis@ip127-8-212-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[23:59:43] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@77.105.29.179> has joined #illumos