November 16, 2016 
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background[10:24:40] <wilbury> KermitTheFragger: duration property[10:25:49] <wilbury> KermitTheFragger: duration=child[10:26:05] <wilbury> (as opposite to duration=transient or duration=contract)[10:31:17] *** esoel_ <esoel_!~esoel_@130.87-253-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk> has joined #illumos[10:35:28] <KermitTheFragger> wilbury: duration child seems like an elegant way. However the service remains listed as 'offline'. Is that normal? When looking at the SMF logfile the application does seem to be running as expected[10:36:15] <KermitTheFragger> (using SmartOS BTW)[10:36:38] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc108961-cmbg20-2-0-cust21.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has joined #illumos[10:37:01] <KermitTheFragger> ah wait, ah zone restart fixed it. I probably didn't reload something properly[10:37:07] <KermitTheFragger> great, thanks![10:38:40] <wilbury> duration=transient is for daemons[10:45:54] <KermitTheFragger> wilbury: now i'm a bit confused; the docs seem to indicate contract is the default. However most daemons manifests i see don't specify anything specific for startd?[10:46:51] *** glasspelican <glasspelican!~quassel@stanley.glasspelican.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[10:54:57] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@user-94-45-58-141.skif.com.ua> has joined #illumos[10:55:08] *** glasspelican <glasspelican!~quassel@stanley.glasspelican.ca> has joined #illumos[10:55:55] *** psychicist__ <psychicist__!~psychicis@wlan-145-94-179-248.wlan.tudelft.nl> has joined #illumos[10:58:31] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@user-94-45-58-141.skif.com.ua> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:59:14] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@user-94-45-58-141.skif.com.ua> has joined #illumos[11:00:15] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@user-94-45-58-141.skif.com.ua> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:07:05] *** meandrain <meandrain!~meandrain@89.39.95.149> has joined #illumos[11:20:00] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:20:06] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #illumos[11:23:41] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@user-94-45-58-141.skif.com.ua> has joined #illumos[11:25:55] *** psychicist__ <psychicist__!~psychicis@wlan-145-94-179-248.wlan.tudelft.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[11:29:13] *** kovert <kovert!~kovert@saidin.omniscient.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[11:31:13] *** psychicist__ <psychicist__!~psychicis@wlan-145-94-179-248.wlan.tudelft.nl> has joined #illumos[11:33:24] *** kovert <kovert!~kovert@saidin.omniscient.com> has joined #illumos[11:41:05] <xenol> how reliable is the smbios command for obtaining data?[11:41:17] <xenol> I ran it on few machines and it doesn't provide anything[11:41:31] <xenol> I suppose vendor did provide that information. Is that correct?[11:41:40] <xenol> didn't*[11:46:32] <wilbury> smbios extracts from bios tables.[11:51:49] *** psychicist__ <psychicist__!~psychicis@wlan-145-94-179-248.wlan.tudelft.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[11:55:30] *** makruger <makruger!~Michael@pool-108-20-232-57.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has joined #illumos[11:57:34] *** trn <trn!jhj@prone.ws> has joined #illumos[12:01:49] *** psychicist__ <psychicist__!~psychicis@wlan-145-94-179-248.wlan.tudelft.nl> has joined #illumos[12:11:56] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@77.105.60.40> has joined #illumos[12:13:02] *** makruger <makruger!~Michael@pool-108-20-232-57.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[12:13:52] *** bbbryson <bbbryson!~bryson@ip68-108-89-198.lv.lv.cox.net> has joined #illumos[12:14:58] *** Bryson <Bryson!~bryson@ip68-108-89-198.lv.lv.cox.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:14:59] *** bbbryson is now known as Bryson[12:23:29] *** merzo 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place)[13:35:03] <tsoome> thats broken;)[13:36:02] <tsoome> well, there is the thing that some of that data is to be updated/set by the company doing the actual system assembing[13:37:19] <wilbury> yes, we know. asus or their OEMs gives up on everything.[13:51:30] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has joined #illumos[13:57:20] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@user-94-45-58-141.skif.com.ua> has joined #illumos[14:03:06] *** xenol <xenol!~xenol@2a01:8c00:ff48:1a6c::dead:beef> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[14:15:47] *** xenol <xenol!~xenol@2a01:8c00:ff48:1a6c::dead:beef> has joined #illumos[14:17:41] *** CosmicTwitch <CosmicTwitch!~sdfgsdfg@unaffiliated/sdfgsdfg> has quit IRC (Quit: Noam Chomsky)[14:22:23] *** kimc <kimc!~kimc@99-9-187-149.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #illumos[14:22:23] *** kimc <kimc!~kimc@99-9-187-149.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[14:22:23] *** kimc <kimc!~kimc@pdpc/supporter/professional/kimc> has joined 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Tempt[17:44:06] *** Riastradh <Riastradh!~riastradh@netbsd/developer/riastradh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:45:51] <xenol> https://www.illumos.org/issues/7588[17:46:11] <xenol> does this need full build or is enough to send out git diff?[17:47:53] *** rzezeski <rzezeski!uid151901@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aiaqbyldoshkonep> has joined #illumos[17:50:03] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@static-108-48-124-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #illumos[17:57:47] <igork> for changes in man pages you need check by mandoc[17:58:03] <igork> if i remember[17:58:10] <igork> no need full build[17:58:48] <igork> because this file can't crash your system :)[17:59:10] <igork> if it is real text in man format ;)[17:59:39] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@208.184.5.170> has joined #illumos[18:06:50] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@75-54-22-158.lightspeed.snbuca.sbcglobal.net> has joined #illumos[18:13:36] *** daleg <daleg!~daleg@pool-71-178-225-58.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC ()[18:22:14] *** dap_ <dap_!~dap@208.184.5.170> has joined #illumos[18:25:59] <richlowe> xenol: if it only changes manual page text, pbchk and webrev is enough.[18:30:03] <xenol> yeah, thanks, I will add it[18:32:33] *** man_u <man_u!~manu@manu2.gandi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:38:49] <xenol> is git-pkchk supposed to run so long?[18:39:52] *** esoel_ <esoel_!~esoel_@130.87-253-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[18:45:02] *** _mjg <_mjg!mjg@diabel.pl> has joined #illumos[18:45:19] <richlowe> generally no[18:45:24] <richlowe> but it's not particularly _fast_[18:45:32] <richlowe> if it takes a long time, it probably didn't find the right base[18:45:35] <richlowe> try git pbchk -b origin/master[18:45:41] <richlowe> or whatever your illumos remote is named[18:48:56] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@75-54-22-158.lightspeed.snbuca.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[18:50:17] *** merzo 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has joined #illumos[21:51:46] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@39-119-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #illumos[21:57:09] <richlowe> daleg: does your opengrok include 3rd party source from omnios-build or anything?[21:57:11] <richlowe> daleg: and if so, where is it?[21:58:32] <daleg> you mean, the source tarballs of things like whichever version of openssh or openssl, gcc and the like omnios-build compiles?[21:59:13] <richlowe> Yes[21:59:15] <richlowe> extracted[21:59:24] <richlowe> like src.opensolaris.org used to do for SFW, before it stopped doing that.[21:59:26] <richlowe> which was a travesty[21:59:54] <richlowe> basically, I want an opengrok that's illumos + all the other bits that are _really_ important to people[22:00:06] <richlowe> illumos | illumos-extra | omnios-build | pkg5[22:00:21] <daleg> oh, no, I don't. I suppose it's possible, but I'm not sure how much space it would take up or how much java would eat the soul of my server given that quantity of code[22:00:41] <richlowe> oh, it'd probably suck a lot. That's why I was hoping it already sucked for you.[22:00:44] <richlowe> rather than possibly having to suck for me[22:01:54] <daleg> I think it's more of a management nightmare keeping that from happening[22:02:20] <daleg> I can try adding stuff bit-by-bit and seeing how it goes, maybe under its own grok instance[22:02:42] <richlowe> obviously we need to the fine folks at joyent to put together some opengrok patches so they can distribute the indexing onto manta[22:02:47] <richlowe> and then index all of pkgsrc[22:05:11] <daleg> is there something very specific you'd like to see there?[22:05:34] <daleg> like, clone/untar and index for you[22:05:58] <richlowe> well, the basics would be "everything that's really super important to illumos working"[22:06:07] <richlowe> which is pretty much in the list of things I gave above, I'd hope[22:06:15] <daleg> oh so you're asking in a general sense then[22:06:34] <richlowe> yeah, often when poking at ld what I want to find is "anything that does <something>"[22:06:46] <richlowe> or at least anything I care about at does.[22:08:31] <daleg> I guess a mega-grok of everything under a single index would be useful... and hooooge[22:09:12] <daleg> for example you'd click on a libssl call in something under illumos-gate and it would take you to the relevant code in openssl[22:09:39] <daleg> so you wouldn't have to search separate indexes[22:10:15] *** aaro <aaro!~aaro@unaffiliated/xyox/x-040147> has joined #illumos[22:12:03] <richlowe> indeed[22:14:15] *** matejz <matejz!~matejz@element.planetq.org> has joined #illumos[22:18:25] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@121.42.206.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:18:55] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@98.126.219.87> has joined #illumos[22:21:21] *** bahamat_ <bahamat_!~bahamat@2001:470:f0f4:a0a:29e5:21b2:9734:1be5> has joined #illumos[22:21:53] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@2001:470:f0f4:a0a:29e5:21b2:9734:1be5> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[22:24:55] *** Alek <Alek!~Alek@140.174.232.4> has joined #illumos[22:28:07] *** tozhu1 <tozhu1!~Thunderbi@121.42.206.141> has joined #illumos[22:29:18] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@98.126.219.87> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[22:29:18] *** tozhu1 is now known as tozhu[22:31:54] <rmustacc> richlowe: That'd be pretty neat actually.[22:51:18] <richlowe> I mean, the other thing I want is opengrok-but-for-binaries. I'm guessing other peopel would find that less useful :)[22:51:23] <richlowe> indexed elfdump output[22:58:21] <tomww> +1[22:59:05] <tomww> April 1st is approaching[22:59:44] <tsoome> um, the april?[23:00:01] <tsoome> an optimist:P[23:03:41] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has joined #illumos[23:07:27] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[23:08:07] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-04.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[23:10:46] *** matejz <matejz!~matejz@element.planetq.org> has quit IRC (Quit: matejz)[23:13:15] *** matejz <matejz!~matejz@element.planetq.org> has joined #illumos[23:17:51] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@208.184.5.170> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[23:18:11] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@208.184.5.170> has joined #illumos[23:27:12] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@121.42.206.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:44:17] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@cpe-104-228-216-170.maine.res.rr.com> has joined #illumos[23:44:25] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@cpe-104-228-216-170.maine.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:44:40] *** ira <ira!~ira@samba/team/ira> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:45:02] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #illumos[23:52:12] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.65> has joined #illumos[23:58:03] *** pmooney <pmooney!~pmooney@2001:470:1f11:836:f145:f582:1e87:a368> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)