November 7, 2016 
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November 7, 2016 [00:09:08] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@pool-71-244-148-68.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net> has joined #illumos[00:21:41] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@101.204.248.110> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:49:43] *** snuff-work <snuff-work!~snuff-wor@203.87.61.22> has joined #illumos[00:54:56] *** mmlj4 <mmlj4!1000@ip98-163-252-185.no.no.cox.net> has joined #illumos[00:55:35] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@c-73-162-7-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #illumos[00:55:46] <mmlj4> realistically, is illumos worth it? I have Linux and BSD, what would ./ afford me?[01:00:17] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@c-73-162-7-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:06:00] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@101.204.248.110> has joined #illumos[01:14:00] <LeftWing> mmlj4: It depends on what problem you're trying to solve, I would imagine![01:14:06] *** tho <tho!~user@176.221.123.210> has joined #illumos[01:14:09] *** tho <tho!~user@176.221.123.210> has left #illumos[01:27:57] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@101.204.248.110> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:40:18] *** Kelzier <Kelzier!~duka@77.105.27.241> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:11:15] *** pmonson <pmonson!uid55990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gwcwgouoyuzxlqgq> has joined #illumos[02:20:00] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:20:07] *** ed209 <ed209!~ed209@165.225.128.67> has joined #illumos[02:32:59] *** liuzhen <liuzhen!~liuzhen@218.241.172.114> has joined #illumos[02:33:31] <mmlj4> I'm not trying to solve any problem, I'm simply asking what practical value does illumos have[02:34:57] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@c-73-162-7-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #illumos[02:35:15] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@2600:380:477d:2252:f828:c09d:3e37:e488> has joined #illumos[02:36:11] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@c-73-162-7-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:40:50] *** Knez <Knez!~superenem@privat-54178d65.gavlenet.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[02:41:20] *** xzi11a <xzi11a!~robert@pool-71-244-148-68.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:43:05] *** Knez <Knez!~superenem@84.23.141.101> has joined #illumos[02:46:26] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@c-73-162-7-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #illumos[02:47:36] *** aaro <aaro!~aaro@unaffiliated/xyox/x-040147> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[02:48:26] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@c-73-162-7-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:51:12] *** jhendricks <jhendricks!~jhendrick@c-73-162-7-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #illumos[02:53:33] *** melloc <melloc!~melloc@2600:380:477d:2252:f828:c09d:3e37:e488> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[02:59:00] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p5B370EAA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[03:03:10] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p5B371649.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #illumos[03:12:34] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc02-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:12:51] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc08-o.oracle.com> has joined #illumos[03:15:26] *** gila_ <gila_!~textual@5ED4FE92.cm-7-5d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:27:40] *** Knez <Knez!~superenem@84.23.141.101> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[03:35:31] *** Knez <Knez!~superenem@privat-54178d65.gavlenet.com> has joined #illumos[03:39:41] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has joined #illumos[03:40:19] *** makruger <makruger!~Michael@pool-108-20-232-57.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has joined #illumos[03:44:24] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[03:50:22] *** aaro <aaro!~aaro@unaffiliated/xyox/x-040147> has joined #illumos[04:02:14] *** jcea <jcea!~Thunderbi@ks27448.kimsufi.com> has quit IRC (Quit: jcea)[04:07:33] *** makruger <makruger!~Michael@pool-108-20-232-57.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:13:58] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has joined #illumos[04:17:22] *** pmonson <pmonson!uid55990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gwcwgouoyuzxlqgq> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[04:19:28] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@ip72-199-207-63.sd.sd.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[04:28:40] *** bahamat <bahamat!~bahamat@2001:470:f0f4:a0a:616a:551a:8be9:5617> has joined #illumos[04:34:29] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:34:55] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has joined #illumos[04:47:52] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[04:48:26] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has joined #illumos[04:55:43] *** liuzhen <liuzhen!~liuzhen@218.241.172.114> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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good.[16:17:13] <richlowe> ./usr/src/uts/common/inet/ip/ipcsum.c[16:17:13] <richlowe> ./usr/src/uts/sparc/ml/ip_ocsum.s[16:17:27] <richlowe> both dead code[16:17:58] <richlowe> (there's also sun4/ml/ip_ocsum.s, which is perhaps not dead)[16:18:07] *** openzfsslackbot <openzfsslackbot!~nobody@ec2-52-23-198-104.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has left #illumos[16:18:18] *** openzfsslackbot <openzfsslackbot!~nobody@ec2-52-23-198-104.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #illumos[16:18:35] <richlowe> did you really want that answer? :)[16:19:00] <richlowe> I'd be fine with you deleting the dead code.[16:19:15] <richlowe> a SPARCista can tell you whether the C source matches the remaining ASM, and whether pasting it as a comment would be beneficial.[16:22:20] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:25:08] *** pjy <pjy!~pjy@static-108-48-124-82.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #illumos[16:25:15] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-90-235-80.dyn.estpak.ee> has 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stockly)[18:15:01] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@92.60.189.225> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:16:32] *** khalfell_ <khalfell_!~khalfella@cpe-104-33-126-163.socal.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:19:28] *** Naeil <Naeil!~nzoueidi@ubuntu/member/na3il> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[18:20:13] <tsoome> there are just too few… and they are all busy catching up….[18:20:47] <igork> richlowe: it is != impossible - it depend on needs of someone else. Agnar is working on sparc build based on OI[18:20:54] <ptribble> I'm hoping to get Tribblix self-hosting on SPARC soon[18:21:00] <igork> but - it is slow process[18:21:14] <igork> i can provide build zones[18:21:34] <igork> but - i can't build illumos as is[18:21:39] <ptribble> Summer was too warm to have the SPARC boxes chucking out heat in the home office[18:21:49] <tsoome> :D[18:21:52] <igork> :)[18:23:04] <tsoome> and we need more people to develop illumos...[18:23:22] <tsoome> on any platform.[18:23:29] <igork> it is possible to work on building illumos on SPARC as is based on dilos env, but need integrate some fixes for it[18:24:15] <igork> something like danmcd did for builds illumos based on omnios env[18:25:34] *** trentm <trentm!~Adium@199.58.193.130> has joined #illumos[18:27:38] <tsoome> ptribble: you have T-series?[18:30:19] <igork> also - it is possible to test some changes based on dilos :)[18:33:14] *** slx86 <slx86!~Thunderbi@46-129-44-239.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl> 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