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[00:23:44] <marsell> Nexenta guys, I don't know who's doing your online ads, but I only see them in dubious places.
[00:24:55] <Meths> What were you doing in dubious places? :P
[00:25:44] <Aram> marsell: it's google ads, and the ads are targeted to the user. so they see you might be interested in this, and google serves those ads no matter which website you are visiting.
[00:26:04] <marsell> Okay, that's just creepy.
[00:26:42] <marsell> Time to scrub my cookies. I'm cool with Nexenta, but I'm not a fan of Google's centralization of data.
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[00:35:53] <Triskelios> I've only seen Nexenta ads on my phone... although that's probably because I only see ads on my phone
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[00:50:18] <marsell> Hmm. The ads seem to be openx, not google. Unless google owns them.
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[01:11:54] <richlowe> I don't think I've seen an actual nexenta ad.
[01:12:11] <richlowe> maybe I'm not visiting dubious enough places. :\
[01:14:46] <Triskelios> I saw one the one time I visited slashdot a few months ago
[01:14:49] <nachox> osnews has some
[01:14:55] <Triskelios> I guess that's suitable dubious
[01:15:07] <Triskelios> suitably, even
[01:15:51] <nachox> or had at some point
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[06:26:49] <gdamore> hello from moscow
[06:27:10] <kdavy> gdamore: woah. where you staying?
[06:27:35] <gdamore> in the terminal waiting for my connection to Krasnodar.  :)
[06:27:40] <kdavy> (i'm from moscow originally)
[06:27:46] <kdavy> ah. makes sense. SFO?
[06:27:58] <gdamore> nope.. Amsterdam
[06:28:13] <gdamore> was there for three days of Nexenta user conference
[06:28:53] * gdamore saw Alasdairrr and aszeszo there too
[06:29:07] <kdavy> SVO sorry - i forgot my airport codes. = Sheremet'yevo
[06:29:22] <gdamore> right.. svo
[06:29:50] <gdamore> its been a very long couple of days....
[06:30:15] <kdavy> sounds like fun still
[06:31:52] <kdavy> btw, as a foreigner you could pull so many pranks in Russia...
[06:32:03] <gdamore> it was,  but a lot of work....
[06:32:51] <gdamore> i only have a few minutes before they start boarding, I think
[06:34:08] <alanc> if you're flying when the rapture happens, be sure to take pics of people out the window - will be even cooler than the phone snapshots last week of the shuttle launch outside an airplane window
[06:34:27] <kdavy> lol...
[06:34:51] <gdamore> heh..  i forgot about that...
[06:34:55] <kdavy> i think it's too early for that - gotta wait until 6pm in that timezone
[06:35:29] <gdamore> wait... its timezone specific?
[06:35:30] <kdavy> i've already seen some crazy people today - in Houston
[06:35:34] <alanc> since the guy who paid for all the "Rapture coming May 21" billboards runs his radio network out of Oakland, we get even higher levels of bemused press coverage here
[06:35:36] <kdavy> gdamore, apparently
[06:35:59] * gdamore dons tinfoil hat
[06:36:49] <gdamore> ive not checked news in a while.... been busy with eu users conf, vendor collaboration, and just generally working
[06:36:54] <kdavy> given my luck, i'd probably sleep through the rapture even if it was real
[06:37:16] <gdamore> the internet at the hotel in amsterdam was the worst ive seen
[06:37:28] <gdamore> about 256 bits per second
[06:37:29] <kdavy> gdamore: don't check the news for another few days - there's nothing noteworthy there
[06:38:04] <kdavy> (our entire office was talking about the governator today. who cares?)
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[06:41:08] <gdamore> heh
[06:41:22] <richlowe> There's some generic and obvious way to take two files and get CVS-style conflict markers put into them
[06:41:24] <richlowe> what is it? :)
[06:41:25] <gdamore> ok time to shut down i think
[06:41:37] <kdavy> gdamore: have a safe flight
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[06:43:47] <jbk> grr.. i hate it when people use technically correct but useless chord names
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[07:48:15] <Botanic> anyone know if there is a precompiled php ldap module laying around anywhere?
[07:49:23] <richlowe> possibly SFE?
[07:51:10] <Botanic> whats that?
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[07:53:21] <alanc> smrt: explain sfe
[07:53:33] <alanc> damn, bot died again
[07:54:12] <Botanic> whats it stand for? im capable of googlin :P
[07:54:34] <richlowe> spec-files-extra, but I think the google result is crap
[07:54:37] <richlowe> smrt knows of a pre-built repo
[07:54:55] <richlowe> alanc: Now whenever it dies, I imagine it dumping core twice.
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[07:56:12] <Botanic> it looks liek rpm when building from source
[07:56:34] <Botanic> or similer at least
[07:56:51] <richlowe> It is
[07:57:01] <Botanic> see google is your friend :D
[07:57:02] <richlowe> pkgbuild started out as a hack to share packaging info between Sun's linux and Solaris desktops.
[07:57:11] <richlowe> then after they ditched linux, it carried on
[07:57:14] <richlowe> as just as much of a hack
[07:57:25] <Botanic> there a reason OI doesnt move to like apt or such
[07:57:46] <richlowe> I think the biggest reason is the gigantic bloody argument it'd cause
[07:57:51] <richlowe> as with many things in this part of the OS world
[07:57:52] <Botanic> hahahaha
[07:58:03] <richlowe> you need a loud voice and a big stick to get anything done.
[07:59:25] <Botanic> and here i thought it was just chips and mountian dew
[08:01:05] <Botanic> imho pkg is not usable, the search in it at the very least is horrendious
[08:01:08] <Botanic> and its slow...
[08:08:17] <alanc> and everything is already packaged for it, and all the stuff OI hopes to leverage from the bits Oracle still shares is packaged for it
[08:08:57] <alanc> dumping pkg and going with apt means committing to do all that work on their own, and there's way too few OI volunteers to keep up as it is, without forcing them to do 10 times as much work
[08:10:12] <richlowe> Nexenta's stuff is still apt, right?
[08:10:15] * richlowe doesn't pay attention
[08:10:26] <alanc> I assume so, being debianish
[08:10:50] <Botanic> it is apt
[08:10:58] <alanc> but if you wanted apt & debian pkgs, then just use nexenta instead of making OI into a nexenta clone
[08:10:58] <Botanic> im not against having both
[08:11:08] <Botanic> well personally i dotn like apt
[08:11:11] <Botanic> but pkg is worse
[08:11:16] <Botanic> there are options like yum out there as well
[08:11:41] <alanc> I seem to remember moinak making noise about Belenix going rpm5 & yum
[08:12:35] <richlowe> was there more to it than noise?
[08:13:30] <alanc> I didn't think belenix had delivered anything since moinak left Sun and moved to an employer less willing to let him spend work time on his hobby project
[08:14:11] <richlowe> Amazing how the evil just wipes clean off, huh?
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[10:54:11] <codestr0m> http://c571741.r41.cf2.rackcdn.com/ekopath-4.0.10-installer.run
[10:55:40] <crsd> what's that?
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[11:07:16] <codestr0m> crsd: EKOPath 4 compiler for Solaris and family
[11:07:28] * codestr0m is drafting an announcement
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[11:20:16] <xl0> Follow the url in the ml -> check ml archives -> non-puclib arhives? -> close tab.
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[11:24:22] <codestr0m> xl0: subscribe or maybe I can make the archives public
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[11:28:11] <xl0> codestr0m: So you are selling patched gnu toolchain, right?
[11:28:23] <codestr0m> xl0: lol.. no
[11:28:50] <codestr0m> it uses a gcc front-end and that's all (which in the next major version is gone as well)
[11:29:00] <codestr0m> xl0: why would you think that?
[11:29:18] <xl0> The PathsScale Compiler Suite is based on GCC 3.3 and the associated runtime libraries.
[11:29:35] <codestr0m> eh? where on earth does it say that?
[11:29:41] <crsd> ;)
[11:29:44] <xl0> http://www.pathscale.com/node/163
[11:29:58] <xl0> But we already know the truth. ;))
[11:30:27] <codestr0m> xl0: download it and you'll see that's pretty far from it.. I'm going to fix this old page asap
[11:33:19] <xl0> codestr0m: May I take a look at the sources?
[11:33:40] <codestr0m> xl0: join #pathscale and of course
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[12:36:15] <Alasdairrr> morning all
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[13:19:58] <DeanoC> hey does anybody know if dladm link aggregation works with infiniband?
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[14:05:47] <xl0> Hey, guys. It should be possible to move a disk between different controllers and still be able to boot from it, right?
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[14:06:41] <xl0> Like, I've installed oi in qemu to ide, but the same image seems to fail when connected to ahci.
[14:06:59] <xl0> So I'm trying to figure out if this is an illumos problem on a qemu one.
[14:11:31] <codestr0m> xl0: ahci and ata don't play nice when moved
[14:11:38] <codestr0m> also may have to touch /reconfigure
[14:12:44] <xl0> Well, this seems to work with Linux.
[14:13:00] <codestr0m> xl0: this isn't linux is it?
[14:13:29] <xl0> Yeah, I wish it was more like linux in this regard. ;)
[14:13:47] <codestr0m> xl0: touch /reconfigure and see if you get lucky
[14:14:05] <crsd> you need to be able to boot to touch anything :D
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[14:15:12] <xl0> Ok, let me try in a few minutes. ;)
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[14:17:24] * crsd wonders what /usr/share/man/man4b/plot.4b is.. probably leftovers from plot(1b) removal?
[14:18:02] <DeanoC> maybr plot.4b is the directors cut befor the studios hacked the plot to pieces... ;)
[14:18:11] <crsd> hehe
[14:18:13] <xl0> crsd: I can touch when booting from ide. I'm not really familiar with the boot process, but /etc/systems gets read somehow.
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[14:21:41] <xl0> */etc/system
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[14:42:40] <xl0> Nope, did not help. :/
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[19:39:54] <hjain> Does building illumos with onnv-gate instead of illumos-gate work??
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[19:45:17] <jelmd> is there a code convention/code formatting guide for illumos ?
[19:47:26] <e^ipi> cstyle
[19:47:50] <jelmd> yepp. where ?
[19:47:54] <e^ipi> hjain: no, then you end up with opensolaris, which hasn't changed in almost a year
[19:48:18] <e^ipi> jelmd: /opt/onbld/bin/
[19:50:34] <hjain> e^ipi: Implementation of GRUB will be same for opensolaris and illumos, right?
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[19:53:42] <jelmd> e^ipi: thanks. this is at least something. However, a verbal description would be better ;-)
[19:55:54] <e^ipi> hjain: i'm unaware of any grub changes since then
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[20:59:21] <jbk> jelmd: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/download/Community+Group+on/WebHome/cstyle.ms.pdf is still pretty much the case
[21:00:01] <jelmd> ahh - thanx! :)
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[21:00:49] <jbk> the cstyle script will also help point out issues
[21:01:01] <jbk> (in usr/src/tools IIRC)
[21:01:10] <jbk> it's run automatically as part of hg pbchk as well
[21:01:49] <jelmd> nice :)
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[22:30:31] <richlowe> dammit, where'd gwr get to?
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[22:32:14] <richlowe> crsd: Probably, yes, I did my best to keep up with the EOFs but didn't necessarily succeed as well as I should have
[22:32:20] <richlowe> crsd: some pages still mention NIS+ for instance, too
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[22:35:54] <alanc> probably a few docs.sun.com url's to clean out too, I know I filed a bug last week against those in our man page
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[22:37:19] <richlowe> not a lot, actually.
[22:37:29] <richlowe> mentions of it, and links to the index, but only one direct link into it.
[22:37:39] <richlowe> everyone except kerberos learnt their lesson when docs.sun.com last trashed the URLs
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[23:29:40] <crsd> richlowe: I'm not sure what you were answering.. :-)
[23:29:57] <crsd> ah, plot.4b?
[23:35:39] <richlowe> Yeah

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