November 21, 2010 
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November 21, 2010 [00:02:00] *** postwait has joined #illumos[00:06:17] *** schily_ has joined #illumos[00:20:03] *** schily_ has quit IRC[00:20:04] *** postwait has quit IRC[00:20:12] *** psychicist has quit IRC[00:20:38] *** schily_ has joined #illumos[00:34:45] *** vergil66 has joined #illumos[00:37:26] *** russiane39 has quit IRC[00:41:10] *** vergil66 has quit IRC[00:47:41] *** Jondice has quit IRC[00:49:52] *** edude03 has joined #illumos[00:52:45] *** Jondice has joined #illumos[00:53:48] <Triskelios> oh.. missed the above discussion about malloc[00:54:10] <Triskelios> why does Roland want to call malloc from inside a signal handler?[00:55:25] *** russiane39 has joined #illumos[01:01:20] *** smrt has quit IRC[01:01:38] *** smrt has joined #illumos[01:03:33] *** hnhn has quit IRC[01:03:46] <gdamore> Triskelios: not sure... because he's nuts? Or the ksh93 guys are nuts?[01:05:48] <jbk> gdamore: btw, it appears opensparc.net has documentation on the niagara's crypto unit[01:07:54] <gdamore> well I'll be damned.[01:08:03] <gdamore> then someone could potentially write a replacement driver.[01:08:37] <jbk> there's the hypervisor api, that has calls for it[01:08:59] <e^ipi> better download the specs quick before oracle realizes it[01:09:04] <gdamore> this sounds promising then. :-)[01:09:11] <gdamore> jbk: please grab whatever doco you can find[01:09:18] <jbk> already hhave them :)[01:09:24] <gdamore> great.[01:10:12] <jbk> http://opensparc-t1.sunsource.net/specs/UST1-UASuppl-current-draft-HP-EXT.pdf documents the modular arithmetic unit[01:10:34] <gdamore> I'm running some tests on my Core i7 system to see if I can locate the memory fault that was plaguing me earlier. If I can fix it, then I'll have better machine resource which I might be able to share.[01:10:45] <gdamore> (with my fellow nexentians at least)[01:11:13] <jbk> http://kenai.com/projects/hypervisor/downloads/download/hypervisor-api-3.0draft4.pdf documents the hypervisor api[01:11:58] <jbk> which includes random number generation and crypto[01:12:02] *** russiane39 has quit IRC[01:13:06] *** russiane39 has joined #illumos[01:13:17] <jbk> gdamore: for the ls bug, since it only manifests itself w/ ss12.1 (or if you compile w/ -xstrconst)[01:14:12] <jbk> i did a nightly w/ ss12.1 -- however there are apparently a number of unrelated issues in other parts of the code tree w/ ss12.1 -- would merely testing the binary built w/ 12.1 (from nightly) be ok?[01:14:30] <Triskelios> jbk: what issues did you see?[01:14:50] <jbk> no compilation issues, but bugs[01:15:01] <jbk> alanc mentioned hsfs issues (for example)[01:15:10] <gdamore> jbk: that sounds fine.[01:15:19] <gdamore> I am only worried about ls at the moment.[01:15:22] <jbk> ok[01:15:43] <alanc> Joerg hit the hsfs issues when he tried building illumos with ss12.1 for schillix (sent mail a few weeks ago)[01:15:48] <gdamore> I'm not sure that SS12.1 is usable yet, although I'd like someday to get to compiling against the latest compiler.[01:15:52] <jbk> it looks like it worked, but i'll tkae a closer look tonight after the concert if i had time[01:16:02] <jbk> since i'm about to go grab dinner than head there[01:16:05] <gdamore> sounds good. thanks for taking care of this.[01:16:08] <jbk> then go see it again up in dallas tomorrow :)[01:16:10] <alanc> and Oracle's snv_153 hit the same issue that several of us have been looking at this weekend[01:16:26] <jbk> (the wall)[01:16:53] <alanc> looks like it might be a simple fix/workaround though in the hsfs code of:[01:17:01] <alanc> +#define SEC_PER_YEAR 0x1e13380L[01:17:19] <alanc> to avoid the amd64 hsfs sign extending the time_t out of the 32-bit range[01:17:46] <alanc> (because I'm sure the snv_151a CD has no files with mtimes in 1874, no matter what stat() claims)[01:19:05] <alanc> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=7000552[01:20:34] *** jkimball4 has quit IRC[01:21:18] <alanc> btw, early tests with 12.2 show a new large pile of lint warnings introduced[01:22:27] <jbk> but will 12.2 be released with a license that would allow us to use it? :)[01:22:44] <jbk> (rhetorical question, i know no one in here knows the answer)[01:23:33] <gdamore> alanc: interesting... thanks.[01:24:15] <alanc> 12.2 shipped a while ago[01:25:55] <alanc> but I think is currently only available under OTN development/evaluation license or support contract, not the opensolaris special license on previous CBE compilers (not that it is the CBE at the moment)[01:26:54] <alanc> though I'm not sure what you could really use a compiler for that doesn't count as development[01:27:35] *** jkimball4 has joined #illumos[01:28:10] *** nachox has joined #illumos[01:28:12] <alanc> maybe if you're just building code you downloaded and never modifying it[01:29:52] <Meths> hmmm, just reading the 12.2 OTN license and nothing stands out to prevent using it AFAICT.[01:31:47] *** hajma__ has quit IRC[01:35:27] *** hajma has joined #illumos[01:38:55] *** russiane39 has quit IRC[01:40:06] *** russiane39 has joined #illumos[01:40:30] *** RoyK has joined #illumos[01:42:00] *** kovert has quit IRC[01:45:51] *** Red_Devil has quit IRC[01:46:08] *** Red_Devil has joined #illumos[01:46:14] *** russiane39 has quit IRC[01:46:34] *** Red_Devil is now known as Guest10283[01:47:18] *** russiane39 has joined #illumos[01:49:35] *** kovert has joined #illumos[01:53:12] *** gber has quit IRC[01:55:18] *** russiane39 has quit IRC[02:10:23] <h3sp4wn> Other than in production without paying or having the right support contract[02:13:40] *** russiane39 has joined #illumos[02:17:37] <Triskelios> h3sp4wn: it does *not* say that[02:18:25] <h3sp4wn> Triskelios: It says its licenced only for people working on developing products for the upcoming oracle solaris os[02:19:03] <h3sp4wn> It cannot be used for internal business purposes.[02:19:50] <Triskelios> h3sp4wn: show me the line where it says that[02:20:08] <Triskelios> I quote: "Subject to the terms of this agreement and the Program documentation, we grant you a nonexclusive, personal, nontransferable, limited license to use the Program for your internal business operations, including the development and testing of programs that you create using the Oracle Solaris Studio Program."[02:20:43] <h3sp4wn> Thats for sunpro not solaris right ?[02:21:02] <Triskelios> we are talking about the OTN licence for 12.2[02:23:33] <h3sp4wn> Can it legally be used to build illumos (I would say you cannot redistribute those binaries)[02:24:54] <Triskelios> h3sp4wn: you clearly haven't read the licence so why comment on it?[02:31:11] <h3sp4wn> Triskelios: Forget it, You are right in that I won't read it (no patches no point for me))[02:36:59] *** edude03 has left #illumos[02:39:14] *** ShadowHntr has joined #illumos[02:39:14] *** ShadowHntr has joined #illumos[02:40:40] *** postwait has joined #illumos[02:41:07] *** ShadowHntr has quit IRC[02:41:49] <Triskelios> jbk: err, the real bug in ls is that it modifies colorstr at all... it even tries to free() it even though it's always allocated statically or from the environment space[02:42:41] *** russiane39 has quit IRC[02:44:14] *** russiane39 has joined #illumos[02:44:36] <jbk> umm it should only do that if its copied from getenv[02:44:46] <jbk> and not the default[02:45:43] <jbk> i can't look at it right now[02:45:59] <jbk> but i'll double check later[02:47:20] *** postwait has quit IRC[02:47:31] <jbk> since i'm not at my apartment atm[02:50:52] *** kart_ has quit IRC[02:51:35] *** kart_ has joined #illumos[02:52:26] <Triskelios> just double-checked, it never copies the string[02:52:45] <Triskelios> it does strtok_r and free on it[02:54:27] <samuelyounge> do the default build options for compiling illumos-gate generate some 64bit code or does it all default to 32bit?[02:54:51] <Triskelios> it always builds both[02:57:13] *** h3sp4wn has left #illumos[03:07:04] *** eliyahu has joined #illumos[03:56:55] *** eliyahu has quit IRC[04:05:06] *** edude03 has joined #illumos[04:25:27] *** nachox has quit IRC[05:00:02] *** edude03 has quit IRC[05:09:52] *** edude03 has joined #illumos[05:12:38] *** edude03 has quit IRC[05:31:38] *** trbs has quit IRC[05:33:09] *** kart_ has quit IRC[05:34:13] *** kart_ has joined #illumos[05:36:25] *** jbk has quit IRC[05:36:38] *** ivan has quit IRC[05:36:50] *** prudhvi has quit IRC[05:37:27] *** prudhvi has joined #illumos[05:38:15] <lewellyn> Triskelios: um. not always? ;)[05:40:36] <Triskelios> really?[05:42:29] <lewellyn> Triskelios: the kernel on sparc is 64-bit ;)[05:42:51] <Triskelios> userland is both[05:42:59] <Triskelios> so that counts :P[05:43:02] <lewellyn> he didn't specify userland :)[05:43:31] <Triskelios> he was just asking about "some 64bit code"[05:44:29] <lewellyn> yes. the question was vague enough to be unsatisfactorily answerable. taking advantage of it :)[06:08:45] *** khem_ has joined #illumos[06:17:44] *** anilg has joined #illumos[06:18:56] *** edude03 has joined #illumos[06:38:26] *** jelmd has quit IRC[06:49:34] *** joe262 has quit IRC[07:08:28] *** echelog-2 has joined #illumos[07:14:51] *** edude03 has quit IRC[07:23:15] *** edude03 has joined #illumos[07:30:20] *** jbk has joined #illumos[07:50:53] *** xapiens has quit IRC[08:01:29] *** disharmony is now known as Guest3726[08:08:29] <khem_> what is wrong with my Xen trying to boot Solaris?[08:08:33] *** Aram has joined #illumos[08:08:42] <khem_> http://pastebin.com/idf3yWEV[08:19:22] *** edude03 has quit IRC[08:29:28] *** jbk has quit IRC[08:35:36] *** anilg has quit IRC[08:54:30] *** hsp has joined #illumos[08:57:12] *** moshisushi has joined #illumos[09:10:28] <madwizard> Coffee[09:11:49] *** ivan has joined #illumos[09:19:57] *** CVLTCMK0 has quit IRC[09:21:02] *** CVLTCMK0 has joined #illumos[09:23:26] *** DreamCatcher has joined #illumos[09:24:25] *** kart_ has quit IRC[09:43:59] *** descipher has joined #illumos[09:48:03] *** Petri has joined #illumos[09:48:44] *** CVLTCMK0 has quit IRC[09:49:42] <Petri> Hi[09:50:10] <DreamCatcher> Hi[09:50:41] <Petri> Any present who knows ioctl well ?[09:50:44] *** CVLTCMK0 has joined #illumos[09:51:37] <Petri> i have issue with SUWNofusr build , some headers/interfaces seems not to be compatible ...[09:51:47] <Petri> http://www.illumos.org/issues/378[10:08:20] *** samuelyounge has quit IRC[10:10:37] *** gber has joined #illumos[10:43:32] *** blu has quit IRC[10:45:31] *** blu has joined #illumos[10:49:32] *** blu has quit IRC[10:51:13] *** blu has joined #illumos[11:05:12] *** disharmony has joined #illumos[11:11:53] *** Petri has left #illumos[11:22:20] *** hnhn has joined #illumos[11:29:17] *** moshisushi has 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has joined #illumos[22:55:44] *** Guest10283 is now known as Red_Devil[22:55:45] <jbk> Triskelios: i looked last night and can't belive i missed that free :( I think i know what happened (though the original workspace for that has long since been deleted)[22:56:41] <jbk> originally IIRC i was effectively doing a strdup(getenv("LS_COLORS")), but then it was pointed out there's really no harm in modifying the result directly, so i dropped that, but forgot the corresponding free[22:58:36] <Triskelios> I still think modifying environment space is sketchy[23:00:18] <jbk> well originally i wasn't, and IIRC it was suggested to jsut go ahead and do it[23:00:32] <jbk> i couldn't really find any sort of documentation to suggest one way or the other[23:00:43] <jbk> since ls doesn't fork though, that would be where i'd be more concerned[23:17:42] <Triskelios> well, here's a try with strdup, also cleaned up some other malloc error handling 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