November 12, 2010 
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Mozilla.org just had mozbot to do all this stuff...[02:26:23] <lewellyn> http://echelog.matzon.dk/logs/browse/illumos/1289516400[02:26:26] <lewellyn> there's a log bot[02:26:33] <samuelyounge> Any ideas how I can have a partition size of 31GB with 13GB used yet it only has 859M available and is at 94% capacity?[02:26:51] <nrubsig> lewellyn: I was thinking more about something like: baronsamedi: grep "foo" username[02:27:02] <lewellyn> there's a google search box ;)[02:28:13] <nrubsig> baronsamedi: insult lewellyn[02:28:18] <baronsamedi> lewellyn: Your momma is so <censored> that she must be <ceonsored> with <censored> by <censored> within <censored>[02:28:38] <lewellyn> i just don't see the need for a plethora of the same bots[02:31:40] <e^ipi> but everyone needs to have their own bot[02:31:47] <e^ipi> for some reason[02:33:40] <nrubsig> e^ipi: well, somehow I miss mozbot. Maybe it"s just me. And CIA is annoying. And there is no way to query the bug database from IRC like mozbot can do.[02:33:59] <nrubsig> basically all the interesting things are not available right now.[02:34:06] <nrubsig> Writing them is easy.[02:34:19] <nrubsig> But I can't host this stuff.'[02:34:20] <e^ipi> so what, just query the bug database from the bug database[02:34:31] <e^ipi> why the hell do you need to pollute IRC with it[02:34:55] <nrubsig> e^ipi: because it is _usefull_ in IRC discussions. see mozbot.[02:35:14] <nrubsig> maybe it's a community difference between mozilla.org and opensolaris/illumos[02:35:36] <nrubsig> mozilla.org saw it as usefull and now people complain when the functionality is broken.[02:36:09] <e^ipi> i'm opposed to bots in general, i think IRC is a transient communications medium, and we all have access to google outside of IRC[02:36:24] <alanc> so why a new bot instead of enhancing the shircbot lewellyn already has here?[02:36:51] <nrubsig> (and using mozbot is not an option, there is no bug database plugin for illumos's bugtracker (which raises another question - basically the current bugtracker is totally unsupported by the rest of the opensource world))[02:37:38] <lewellyn> nrubsig: in my copious free time, i'm adding bug query support to smrt[02:37:55] <nrubsig> lewellyn: that would be nice... :-)[02:38:13] <lewellyn> however, "things that pay" are reducing the quantity of said free time.[02:38:15] <e^ipi> nrubsig: you'd prefer bugster ?[02:38:29] <lewellyn> even if they involve watching ballerinas and navy seals, as i just witnessed... O_o[02:38:55] <lewellyn> nrubsig: if you have a ksh93 xmlrpc library, btw, it'll speed up bug stuff.[02:38:59] <nrubsig> e^ipi: well, for opensource work bugzilla may be nice. At least there are lots of tools and APIs for it, something I badly miss with the current solution.[02:39:13] <e^ipi> bugzilla is pretty crappy though[02:39:17] *** ShadowHntr has joined #illumos[02:39:22] <e^ipi> it was the only bug tracking system that made me thankful for bugster[02:39:23] <lewellyn> s/pretty/very/[02:39:46] <nrubsig> e^ipi: what is the alternative ? perforce is not opensource[02:39:57] <e^ipi> there are dozens[02:40:01] <ShadowHntr> ?[02:40:04] <lewellyn> i've started to prefer clients who track bugs on internal email list discussions over having to deal with them "thinking like bugzilla"[02:40:27] <ShadowHntr> does trac have bug tracking?[02:40:51] <lewellyn> in theory[02:40:51] <nrubsig> e^ipi: I agree that the default web interface of bugzilla is not always optimal but there are alternative web frontends.[02:41:14] <e^ipi> ShadowHntr: it does[02:42:27] <nrubsig> gdamore / gwr: What do you think about Linux's |splice()| function ?[02:42:55] <e^ipi> does anyone use it?[02:43:17] <oninoshiko> IIRC lighttpd does[02:43:28] <oninoshiko> oh, splice()[02:43:58] <nrubsig> e^ipi: I'm wondering whether it could speed-up pipe processing.[02:44:10] * oninoshiko was thinking trac's bug tracking[02:45:02] <e^ipi> if nobody uses it, what's the point?[02:46:59] <e^ipi> given that it's been available on the largest target for a long time[02:47:01] <nrubsig> e^ipi: the point is to have less overhead in doing pipe processing.[02:47:07] <e^ipi> if it were useful, people would already be using it[02:47:21] <nrubsig> e^ipi: I think the issue is complexity.[02:47:32] <e^ipi> in what sense?[02:47:47] <nrubsig> e^ipi: it _feels_ like using |sbrk()| directly in an application.[02:47:49] *** boyd_ has joined #illumos[02:47:56] <nrubsig> without using |malloc()|[02:48:34] <jbk> is pipe processing really that much of a performance issue?[02:49:04] <e^ipi> so again, given that application developers have had it as an option for a long time on linux, and haven't used it... what's the point in implementing it?[02:49:06] *** boyd has quit IRC[02:49:14] <gdamore> nrubsig: I think I have more immediate pressing concerns... like replacing the rest of the closed binaries.[02:49:20] <e^ipi> adding extra calls that nobody uses benefits nobody[02:49:24] <gdamore> right.[02:49:32] *** boyd has joined #illumos[02:49:53] <nrubsig> e^ipi: erm[02:50:24] <nrubsig> e^ipi: my question was like: Look at |splice()| ? is it usefull from a performance/efficeny point of view ?[02:50:34] <e^ipi> I seriously doubt anybody's seen it, wanted to use it and decided "oh, but it won't work on solaris"[02:50:45] <gdamore> My answer would be maybe.. but I don't have time to investigate it properly.[02:51:08] <e^ipi> people either code down to UTSv7, or they use what linux gives them. *maybe* they'll check that it works on freebsd[02:51:15] <nrubsig> e^ipi: that would apply to thinks like |posix_spawn()|, too. Noone uses it.[02:51:38] <gdamore> I realize that you (nrubsig) are fixated on things that will make ksh93 better.. but I'm fixated on the other 14 million lines of code, if that's ok with you. :-)[02:51:45] *** smrt has quit IRC[02:52:02] *** smrt has joined #illumos[02:52:15] *** boyd_ has quit IRC[02:52:23] <nrubsig> e^ipi: |posix_spawn()| was designed to replace |fork|+|exec()| for shells, but it turned out that while the call is now in libc the neccesary syscall to make it beneficial is not there.[02:52:38] *** smrt has quit IRC[02:52:40] <nrubsig> gdamore: erm... |splice()| could help for TCP things, too.[02:52:52] <e^ipi> if anyone used it it could[02:52:54] <e^ipi> but they don't[02:52:55] *** smrt has joined #illumos[02:52:57] <nrubsig> gdamore: remeber the zero-copy NFS patches for Linux ?[02:53:02] <e^ipi> so why repeat the mistake[02:53:19] *** boyd_ has joined #illumos[02:53:24] <nrubsig> e^ipi: "if anyone used it it could" ... which call ?[02:53:32] *** smrt has quit IRC[02:53:33] <e^ipi> splice[02:53:36] <gdamore> if you want to experiment, go for it. show it makes something compelling run faster... something beyond just ksh93... and then propose it.[02:53:37] <lewellyn> stupid ksh93[02:53:49] <e^ipi> lewellyn: we should rip it out[02:53:49] *** smrt has joined #illumos[02:53:51] <e^ipi> along with perl[02:53:53] <jbk> or would it become another sendfile? :)[02:54:03] *** boyd has quit IRC[02:54:03] *** boyd_ is now known as boyd[02:54:10] <lewellyn> e^ipi: nah. it seems to be att's build that's broken.[02:54:12] <jbk> i think it was rob pike that recently discovered it's existance in linux and was like 'god this is crap'[02:54:31] <gdamore> we can't rip ksh93 out... its already infected too man other things in ON.[02:55:10] <gdamore> Admittedly, I do wish it would stop *growing* new appendages in an attempt to subsume all of userland.[02:55:39] <lewellyn> though this may actually be an issue due to me expecting other behavior... :([02:55:48] <gdamore> i mean.. builtin-in od? really? how many scripts actually need od to run fast? 2, 3? I can't recall ever seeing one.[02:55:50] <lewellyn> smrt: bikeshed color[02:55:50] <smrt> turquoise2[02:55:51] <lewellyn> smrt: bikeshed color[02:55:53] <smrt> turquoise2[02:56:04] * lewellyn curses $RANDOM[02:56:24] <gdamore> smrt: explain bikeshed[02:56:24] <smrt> Um. I seem to not know anything about bikeshed...[02:56:35] <gdamore> well, that's disappointing.[02:56:53] <lewellyn> i thought there was a bikeshedding factlet... hm.[02:56:57] <lewellyn> smrt: search bikeshed[02:57:02] <lewellyn> nope :([02:57:39] <lewellyn> i thought smrt emitting a color would be more effective than a factlet ;)[02:57:52] <lewellyn> well, for now, it'll just have to be the same color each run.[02:58:45] <nrubsig> gdamore: don't worry, no more appendages beyond that we have in the prototype tree right now.[02:59:32] <nrubsig> gdamore: and you know already what's in there.[03:02:14] <nrubsig> smrt: explain $((4))[03:02:14] <smrt> Um. I seem to not know anything about $((4))...[03:02:24] <nrubsig> smrt: explain ][[03:02:24] <smrt> Um. I seem to not know anything about ][...[03:03:02] *** piwi has quit IRC[03:04:48] <jbk> subtlety does not work with my mom apparently... heh[03:05:08] <lewellyn> good luck making smrt evaluate random gibberish ;)[03:05:38] <lewellyn> i decided to sic some trolls on smrt to see if they could find lulz. they got bored.[03:05:43] <lewellyn> that's a good sign :)[03:07:42] *** piwi has joined #illumos[03:08:27] <nrubsig> smrt: explain 唐ぬ国[03:08:27] <smrt> Um. I seem to not know anything about 唐ぬ国...[03:08:43] <nrubsig> smrt: 唐ぬ国 is a name for China[03:09:41] <lewellyn> smrt: hi[03:09:41] <smrt> Hi, I'm smrt. I try to be a helpful bot. For more information: /msg smrt help[03:09:47] <lewellyn> use the help, luke :)[03:11:05] <baronsamedi> smrt: help[03:11:30] <nrubsig> lewellyn: maybe we can get the bots to talk to each other.[03:12:33] <lewellyn> that'd be unfortunate.[03:12:51] <lewellyn> your bots don't match smrt's botloop thing, also :P[03:13:03] <lewellyn> and it responds to help in msg, not in public. it does little in public.[03:15:48] *** abisen has joined #illumos[03:16:34] <abisen> Is it possible to make a physical network switch on a server with multiple switch?[03:17:34] *** venture37 has quit IRC[03:20:52] *** jamesd2 has joined #illumos[03:21:27] *** smrt has quit IRC[03:21:43] *** smrt has joined #illumos[03:24:50] *** bradend has quit IRC[03:25:35] *** bradend has joined #illumos[03:25:42] *** smrt has quit IRC[03:25:59] *** smrt has joined #illumos[03:26:21] *** bradend has quit IRC[03:27:23] *** baronsamedi has quit IRC[03:27:43] *** jamesd2 has quit IRC[03:28:14] *** jamesd2 has joined 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quit IRC[09:49:37] *** taemun has joined #illumos[10:06:53] *** biant92 has joined #illumos[10:08:15] *** hnhn has joined #illumos[10:08:52] <madwizard> Coffee[10:11:30] *** kart_ has joined #illumos[10:20:22] *** VertexSymphony has quit IRC[10:20:50] *** VertexSymphony has joined #illumos[10:22:35] *** sidh_ is now known as sidh[10:27:19] *** Gaston|Home has quit IRC[10:45:57] *** RoyK has quit IRC[10:46:31] <nettezzaumana> Erection[10:48:49] <madwizard> Do you have a use for that?[10:54:54] *** Tenzer|off is now known as Tenzer|work[10:55:05] <nettezzaumana> madwizard: not now .. but i'm praying furiously for later oportunity[10:57:50] *** biant92 has left #illumos[11:03:44] *** RoyK has joined #illumos[11:14:46] *** hajma__ has joined #illumos[11:15:18] *** hajma_ has quit IRC[11:16:20] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #illumos[11:20:14] *** Aram has joined #illumos[11:30:57] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[11:31:17] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #illumos[11:35:06] *** smrt has quit IRC[11:35:21] *** 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(now that I'm awake :P)[14:59:43] *** sancho has quit IRC[15:01:46] *** sancho has joined #illumos[15:06:18] *** JStoker has joined #illumos[15:07:23] *** Meths_ has joined #illumos[15:10:16] *** Meths has quit IRC[15:16:31] *** robinbowes has joined #illumos[15:18:15] *** _ams_ has joined #illumos[15:19:52] *** Gaston|Home has joined #illumos[15:34:01] *** xapiens has joined #illumos[15:45:38] <nomad_fr> still[15:46:05] <nomad_fr> is xen working on illumos ?[15:46:46] *** postwait has joined #illumos[15:51:04] *** smrt has quit IRC[15:51:21] *** smrt has joined #illumos[15:52:00] <jbk> nomad_fr: last i heard sun killed it prior to illumos, and i haven't heard if anyone has tried to resurrect it[15:54:19] *** sancho has quit IRC[15:54:53] *** xapiens has quit IRC[15:58:11] *** lattera has joined #illumos[15:58:14] *** xapiens has joined #illumos[16:01:39] <nomad_fr> I read the same thing[16:02:04] <nomad_fr> I'm looking for a way to have a xen + zfs host[16:02:20] <nomad_fr> freebsd sound good but not for xen[16:02:33] <nomad_fr> or mayber netbsd soon[16:05:47] *** _ams_ has quit IRC[16:15:14] *** Gervystar has joined #illumos[16:16:03] *** hajma_ has joined #illumos[16:16:31] *** hajma has quit IRC[16:19:24] *** Gervystar has quit IRC[16:19:36] *** Gervystar has joined #illumos[16:27:57] *** Meths_ is now known as Meths[16:34:45] *** stallion has joined #illumos[16:36:31] *** anilg has quit IRC[16:38:34] *** xmikus01 has quit IRC[16:41:43] *** dnm_ has quit IRC[16:42:01] *** Gervystar has quit IRC[16:42:24] *** Gervystar has joined #illumos[16:43:53] *** lgtaube has quit IRC[16:46:36] *** Gervystar has left #illumos[16:46:58] *** pablomh has quit IRC[16:47:01] *** gebi has quit IRC[16:52:47] *** nachox has joined #illumos[16:54:14] <Tenzer|work> nomad_fr: I would not have too high hopes for Xen on illumos/OpenSolaris/OpenIndiana again, there has been talk about it since illumos was started, but nobody has shown dedication to getting it back on track[16:55:37] <lattera> if I was a developer of IllumOS instead of a user, I'd definitely volunteer to maintain it[16:56:20] *** dajhorn has joined #illumos[17:05:33] *** RoyK has quit IRC[17:10:09] <Tenzer|work> Heh, I guess that's easy to say. It's not just a matter of maintaining it, but getting it re-implemented, afaik[17:11:01] *** nomad_fr has quit IRC[17:11:05] <Triskelios> the Xen 3.4 bits just need some maintenance work[17:11:18] <Triskelios> you can actually use the 134 packages with some hacks...[17:11:46] <Triskelios> 3.4 is becoming less relevant now, and supporting 4.0 is a different story, of course[17:11:53] <lattera> yeah[17:17:48] *** Tenzer|work is now known as Tenzer|off[17:22:36] *** hajma__ has joined #illumos[17:22:38] *** hajma_ has quit IRC[17:30:53] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[17:31:44] *** Edgeman has quit IRC[17:39:21] *** Edgeman has joined #illumos[17:42:14] *** anilg has joined #illumos[18:00:54] *** m2acis has quit IRC[18:05:22] *** dreh has joined #illumos[18:10:40] *** held has quit IRC[18:10:47] *** carlomagno has joined #illumos[18:20:09] *** Tenzer|off is now known as Tenzer[18:20:09] *** hnhn has quit IRC[18:32:30] *** Thrae has quit IRC[18:33:07] *** Thrae has joined #illumos[18:41:52] *** hecsa has quit IRC[18:42:59] *** alfism has joined #illumos[18:52:54] *** held has joined #illumos[19:00:40] *** samuelyounge has quit IRC[19:13:30] *** ShadowHntr has joined #illumos[19:15:24] *** nachox_ has joined #illumos[19:18:04] *** nachox has quit IRC[19:23:48] *** Bleubeard has quit IRC[19:24:10] *** CIA-114 has quit IRC[19:24:30] *** Zauberpony has joined #illumos[19:26:22] *** anilg has left #illumos[19:33:05] *** sancho has joined #illumos[19:33:20] *** FrostCS has quit IRC[19:33:56] *** trbs has joined #illumos[19:38:20] *** _ams_ has joined #illumos[19:39:01] *** Bleubeard has joined #illumos[19:39:19] *** sancho has quit IRC[19:45:04] *** RoyK has joined #illumos[19:47:26] *** descipher has joined #illumos[19:53:32] *** CIA-75 has joined #illumos[19:53:43] *** sancho has joined #illumos[19:53:59] *** glagasse has joined #illumos[19:54:03] *** gdamore has joined #illumos[19:54:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o gdamore[19:57:45] *** ShadowHntr has quit IRC[20:15:37] *** herzen has quit IRC[20:42:10] *** libkeiser has joined #illumos[20:44:05] *** libkeise1 has quit IRC[20:49:01] *** Edgeman has quit IRC[20:50:01] *** libkeiser has quit IRC[20:52:13] *** libkeiser has joined #illumos[20:58:32] *** smrt has quit IRC[20:58:46] *** smrt has joined #illumos[21:06:03] <Meths> gdamore: Have you had any thoughts about carrying on the tickless work yet? I appreciate the closed stuff is taking all focus at the moment but just wondered if it had been mentioned.[21:16:23] *** RoyK has quit IRC[21:16:53] *** RoyK has joined #illumos[21:21:21] *** RoyK has quit IRC[21:22:52] *** dreh has quit IRC[21:23:42] <e^ipi> it's open-source... anybody that wants it can pick it up whenever they like[21:27:34] *** samuelyounge has joined #illumos[21:34:07] *** libkeiser has quit IRC[21:35:42] *** libkeiser has joined #illumos[21:37:40] *** _ams_ has quit IRC[21:47:10] *** hsp has quit IRC[22:03:03] *** |eXeC001er| has quit IRC[22:03:39] *** pothos_ has joined #illumos[22:06:00] *** pothos has quit IRC[22:06:11] *** pothos_ is now known as pothos[22:13:08] *** libkeiser has quit IRC[22:17:56] *** libkeiser has joined #illumos[22:19:04] *** sancho has quit IRC[22:21:13] *** MarcosO has quit IRC[22:23:06] *** ceri has joined #illumos[22:26:55] <gdamore> Meths: tickless is possibly interesting, but not top priority[22:28:45] *** libkeise1 has joined #illumos[22:29:24] <Meths> Okay, thanks.[22:31:09] *** libkeiser has quit IRC[22:51:17] *** ceri has left #illumos[22:51:27] <sponix> gdamore: you sexy animal, how are things ?[22:54:01] *** libkeise1 has quit IRC[22:55:02] <samuelyounge> Does pkg:/SUNWzfs at 0 dot 5.11 have the latest bins for the zfs command and zpool command?[22:56:07] *** libkeiser has joined #illumos[22:57:12] <Triskelios> samuelyounge: pkg contents[22:59:22] *** lattera has quit IRC[23:00:17] <samuelyounge> The one I was looking for is pkg;/system/file-system/zfs[23:05:28] <alanc> any SUNW* package other than SUNWcs is an obsolete/empty placeholder on 133 & later[23:05:42] <samuelyounge> ok[23:07:58] <lewellyn> smrt: explain package names[23:07:58] <smrt> The old style SUNW* package names went away for most packages in build 133, replaced by hierarchical fmri names (including the fmri convention of recognizing trailing components, so you can pkg install gnu-tar instead of archiver/gnu-tar). 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