May 30, 2019 
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quicklaunch: another bugfix release (v1.3.3)[08:24:51] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@gateway/tor-sasl/leorize> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:29:45] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@gateway/tor-sasl/leorize> has joined #haiku[08:39:31] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@48.210.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[08:47:50] *** YannB64 <YannB64!~yannick@2a01:cb18:81ed:2d00:e906:4564:8f2e:fa3d> has joined #haiku[08:48:19] *** YannB64 <YannB64!~yannick@2a01:cb18:81ed:2d00:e906:4564:8f2e:fa3d> has left #haiku[08:49:16] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4qba4ec1q704asyvyip.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[08:49:26] <Begasus> g'morning peeps[08:51:13] <leorize> hi Begasus[08:54:17] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C05BEA.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[08:57:27] *** YannB64 <YannB64!~yannick@2a01:cb18:81ed:2d00:e906:4564:8f2e:fa3d> has joined #haiku[08:57:34] *** YannB64 <YannB64!~yannick@2a01:cb18:81ed:2d00:e906:4564:8f2e:fa3d> has left #haiku[09:06:03] <Begasus> hi leorize ![09:14:04] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[09:22:57] *** myrkraverk <myrkraverk!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/myrkraverk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[09:27:58] *** Nach0z <Nach0z!~nach0z@unaffiliated/nach0z> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[09:28:14] *** myrkraverk <myrkraverk!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/myrkraverk> has joined #haiku[09:28:46] <leorize> my school is just plain terrible atm :/ not really sure if I should just drop out and do a gap year or smt like that[09:28:59] <leorize> anyone here w experience on the entire gap year thing?[09:37:49] <Begas_VBox> this is your last year?[09:39:09] *** winny <winny!~winny@unaffiliated/winstonw> has joined #haiku[09:39:10] <leorize> second year :p[09:39:41] <winny> is there a way to Pin cpu frequency in Haiku? Use-case is I have an old AMD laptop that has cooling issues, and my work around is to ensure it cannot run at full speed[09:40:13] <leorize> I don't think we have any freq controlling driver[09:42:38] <winny> Ok, good to know :)[09:49:44] <Begas_VBox> leorize, looking at the comments frol korli at the PR for fontconfig, shouldn't the line for dirname reflect the same changes as the one for char? (FcChar8 *dirname = FcStrDirname (nn); vs dirname = FcStrDirname (nn);)[09:53:21] <leorize> Begas_VBox: wait, gotta fetch the source[09:53:43] <Rajagopalan> leorize: I believe u are supposed to be enrolled in a college for gsoc[09:53:59] <Rajagopalan> if taking a gap year means still enrolled in a college?[09:54:06] <leorize> well, with my current load I can't join gsoc :p[09:54:36] <Rajagopalan> oh thats sad :([09:54:54] <Rajagopalan> exams and assignments?[09:55:09] <Rajagopalan> if thats the case i do plain just before exam studies[09:55:16] <Rajagopalan> still manage to pass :P[09:55:33] <leorize> assignments are the tricky stuff[09:55:48] <leorize> ridiculously long and full of complete nonsense[09:55:54] <leorize> I don't have exams here :p[09:56:47] <leorize> Begas_VBox: here's how to fix it[09:56:52] <leorize> FcChar8 *path;[09:57:03] <leorize> put below the dirname in the same if branch[09:57:23] <Rajagopalan> wow which country doesnt hve exams[09:57:30] <leorize> change the *path = -> path =[09:57:40] <leorize> Rajagopalan: it's just a thing of this stupid school[09:57:44] <Rajagopalan> i have exams almost every month[09:57:47] <Rajagopalan> :([09:57:57] <Rajagopalan> its like whole semester has 3 exams[09:58:02] <Rajagopalan> and the end[09:58:38] <Begas_VBox> leorize that's what korli also mentioned :)[09:58:39] <leorize> I don't mind exams if any :p[09:58:57] <leorize> yea :p[09:59:27] <Rajagopalan> leorize: then ur one of kind[09:59:33] <Rajagopalan> Begasus:Hello[09:59:36] <leorize> Begas_VBox: so the thing with C89 is that you need to declare all vars on top of a scope (basically just every {} block)[10:00:28] <Begas_VBox> getting there leorize, in the past I just add {} around the error lines to make the build for gcc2[10:00:45] <leorize> you could do that here also :p[10:01:01] <leorize> Rajagopalan: nah, just that I researched a bit too much when I was little[10:01:05] <Begas_VBox> saw some good examples on how to fix them properly, but as I'm not a dev I'll probably will miss the target once in a while :)[10:01:31] <leorize> working on HaikuPorts long enough and you'll master C & C++ :p[10:01:38] <Rajagopalan> leorize: who u sure a child prodigy[10:02:34] <Rajagopalan> *woah[10:02:57] <leorize> under the age of 10 I only know how to crack games to play :p not that smart lol[10:04:49] <Begas_VBox> pushing changes to the patchset, have to go out, will bbl[10:04:58] * leorize waves[10:05:31] <Begas_VBox> cya![10:05:43] <leorize> Begas_VBox: you can just put the lines here instead... https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/fontconfig/blob/master/src/fccfg.c#L2351[10:20:41] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@48.210.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:21:40] *** hUMUNGUs <hUMUNGUs!~humungus@48.210.9.46.customer.cdi.no> has joined #haiku[10:29:06] *** Lucas_Gray <Lucas_Gray!~Wryhder@41.190.2.24> has joined #haiku[10:32:10] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has joined 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apps?[20:39:54] <Begasus> there is haikuports Addos[20:39:59] <Addos> cool[20:40:26] <Begasus> https://github.com/haikuports[20:40:54] <Addos> wow[20:41:25] <Begasus> https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/wiki[20:41:35] <Begasus> that should get you started :)[20:42:39] <Addos> thank you begasus[20:42:42] <Begasus> packages can be installed through HaikuDepot(gui) or pkgman (Terminal)[20:42:50] <Begasus> np[20:43:00] <Addos> ah, so are the apps on HaikuDepot basically just compiled versions of haikuports?[20:43:33] <Begasus> right (if the appropriate architecture is used)[20:44:05] <Begasus> eg, you can't install x86_gcc2 packages on a x86_64 system (and visa versa)[20:44:24] <Begasus> well the first one is in progress IIRC :)[20:44:26] <Addos> I am just happy to hear that I can build them myself, and there is automation to assist with building[20:45:28] <Begasus> if you want to checkup on something you can check it in Terminal with configure/cmake/meson (deppending on what the build is using)[20:46:19] <Begasus> it should tell you what isn't available atm on first install, you can install needed dependencies through for instance "pkgman install sdl_devel"[20:46:43] <Begasus> this will install the base package and devel package if it isn't installed already[20:47:09] <Addos> how difficult would it be to build a frontend for some console apps[20:47:18] <Addos> like I was contemplating a frontend to clamav[20:48:07] <Begasus> that would envolve Haiku specific code for a gui (if there isn't something like KDE/Qt around for it)[20:48:24] <Addos> I don't think I've ever seen one[20:48:44] <Addos> I just think Haiku provides a nice opportunity to humanize some of these scarier command line utilities[20:49:46] <Addos> is there a way to make deskbar automatically show all windows when I click the entry in the deskbar?[20:49:48] <Begasus> Always nice to see new people stepping in, I'm not a developer so can't help in that way, but I'm sure some could point you into the right direction for that[20:50:56] <Addos> I just think Haiku's gui gives an opportunity to simplify some of these harder to use open source tools, that are still powerful and useful tools, but a gui makes them easier for noobs and non technical people to use them[20:51:00] <Begas_VBox> Not sure there[20:53:28] <Begasus> I know that if you have multiple files open with Pe and you click the entry in the Deskbar it shows all opened files[20:53:49] <Addos> hmm[21:01:39] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[21:01:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[21:26:02] *** KimJongFun is now known as SplodeyMcSplodes[21:28:30] *** Ltem <Ltem!~ltem@h081217191110.dyn.cm.kabsi.at> has joined #haiku[21:29:12] *** Lobbyist <Lobbyist!~Mutter@p57B5FD16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[21:38:06] <Addos> if I am trying to build an app that requires ncurses.h what do I have to do to make that work?[21:38:35] <Addos> pkgman install ncurses6 ?[21:38:57] <Addos> oh, it says it is installed already[21:39:40] <Begas_VBox> you can use search also "pkgman search <package>"[21:40:02] *** Lobbyist <Lobbyist!~Mutter@p57B5FD16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:40:03] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:40:04] <Addos> ncurses6_devel[21:40:13] <Begas_VBox> was getting there ;)[21:40:28] <Addos> :)[21:40:43] <Begas_VBox> but yes, the _devel packages mostly host the pkg-config files to let them be detected[21:40:44] <Addos> if this builds, I might have something new to contribute to the ports[21:41:17] <Begas_VBox> nice :)[21:43:33] <Addos> damn, it crashes[21:43:34] <Addos> :([21:43:58] *** SplodeyMcSplodes is now known as insomnia[21:44:01] <Begas_VBox> bugger[21:48:19] *** Lobbyist <Lobbyist!~Mutter@p57B5FD16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[21:51:29] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has joined #haiku[21:53:57] *** 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