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[03:53:37] <csanchez> Hi, is possible connect with VPN Gate servers (OpenVPN) in Haiku?
[03:58:31] <mmu_man> csanchez: not yet, we still don't have a functionnal tun/tap driver
[03:58:47] <mmu_man> although there was some work on it recently
[03:59:00] <csanchez> I see
[03:59:24] <csanchez> thanks mmu_man :)
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[15:06:03] <Forza_> Hello :)
[15:07:46] <Forza_> Just did a check with deduping the Haiku-repositories archives. Seems pretty OK with a reduction from 170GB to 100GB. I used 64KiB blocks, so it might be better with smaller blocks
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[15:40:58] <Not-7290> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/fjRRh
[15:41:00] <Not-7290> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 8dfe603 - openclonk, bump git revision, fix reference to libpng16/libSDL_*
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[15:41:59] <Addos> hi, what does disable local apic mean in safe mode options?
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[15:47:29] <Not-7290> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjR0s
[15:47:31] <Not-7290> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 85d067f - OpenClonk: bump revision
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[16:32:29] <Begasus> g'afternoon peeps
[16:32:37] <leorize> hi Begasus :)
[16:33:48] <Begasus> hi leorize :)
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[17:09:21] <bbjimmy> LoopDLpoop new version: http://fatelk.com/repo/packages/loopdloop-1.5.0-2-x86_gcc2.hpkg http://fatelk.com/repo_64/packages/loopdloop-1.5.0-2-x86_64.hpkg
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[17:40:43] <brj> join #haiku-dev
[17:41:09] <brj> Sorry, wrong message
[17:46:22] <Begas_VBox> ;)
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[17:50:18] <Rajagopalan> hey begasus
[17:50:21] <Rajagopalan> whats going on
[17:50:39] <Rajagopalan> couldnt come for few days as i am badly suffering from fever :(
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[17:59:24] <brj> Rajagopalan take care and get well soon!
[17:59:53] <Rajagopalan> brj: thank you and how is gsoc coming along?
[17:59:56] <Begasus> keep it calm Rajagopalan and good healing
[18:00:29] <brj> Started working on my week #1 targets today :)
[18:00:44] <Rajagopalan> Begasus: :) im still drowzy i guess the alcohol from my cough syrup
[18:00:47] <Begasus> good luck on the contenders :)
[18:00:58] <Rajagopalan> >_<
[18:00:59] <Begasus> lol Rajagopalan :)
[18:01:09] <Rajagopalan> brj: wonderful great to hear
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[18:29:32] <waddlesplash> Addos: APIC is a core part of CPU APIs mostly related to SMP
[18:29:46] <waddlesplash> Addos: by any chance is your system a NUMA one?
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[18:42:17] <HAIKU-irker186> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev53168 [1 commit] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ff4af513e1ea+%5E325b11bf67de
[18:42:17] <HAIKU-irker186> ff4af513e1ea: scsi_periph: use bounce buffers for userland raw commands.
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[18:42:26] <HAIKU-irker186> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev53169 [1 commit] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=061236d4192d+%5Eff4af513e1ea
[18:42:27] <HAIKU-irker186> 061236d4192d: scsi_cd: reset io_scheduler and dma_resource on uninit.
[18:51:57] <leorize> I'm kinda jealous with those that have time to join gsoc :p
[18:53:06] <Begas_VBox> not there this year leorize?
[18:53:37] <leorize> yea :(
[18:53:51] <leorize> got a barrage of assignments around the time to apply, so...
[18:54:09] <Begas_VBox> I guess you could step in to mentor a bit then :)
[18:54:45] <leorize> only if they're doing software :p I can't help those that fiddle with the kernel
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[19:02:31] <Addos> waddlesplash: how do I check?
[19:02:39] <waddlesplash> Addos: do you have 2 CPUs?
[19:02:49] <Addos> one physical cpu
[19:02:54] <Addos> on both systems
[19:02:56] <waddlesplash> ok, so that's probably no then
[19:02:57] <waddlesplash> strange
[19:03:01] <Addos> I am on the other troublesome system right now
[19:03:10] <waddlesplash> Addos: try blacklisting the "cpuidle" module
[19:03:17] <Addos> similarly when I boot with local apic disabled, it at least is responsive
[19:03:32] <Addos> waddlesplash: should I try that now?
[19:03:40] <waddlesplash> yes, and leave APIC/SMP enabled
[19:03:43] <Addos> ok
[19:03:44] <Begas_VBox> Keeping far away from Haiku's internals leorize ;)
[19:03:47] <Addos> let me reboot and give it a try
[19:03:52] <Addos> bbiab
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[19:07:49] <Begas_BM> Unable to open configuration file /boot/home/.freedroid_rpg/fdrpg.cfg
[19:08:06] <Begas_BM> it builds ok but doesn't seem to create/copy the file?
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[19:12:44] <Addos> waddlesplash: I think that might have worked
[19:12:51] <waddlesplash> nice
[19:12:59] <Addos> going to try playing some video
[19:13:26] <Addos> now what exactly did that do?
[19:13:35] <waddlesplash> uh ... disabled cpuidle?
[19:13:46] <waddlesplash> well, in this case, disabled use of Intel's C-States
[19:14:04] <waddlesplash> probably it falls back to "pause" instruction
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[19:14:26] <Addos> I will have to test this on my system at home
[19:14:31] <waddlesplash> ok
[19:14:37] <Addos> but this looks promising
[19:14:43] <Addos> what made you suspect this was the issue?
[19:14:43] <waddlesplash> if this does fix it, please attach new syslogs from both machines to the ticket
[19:15:01] <waddlesplash> it is possible that your CPU has some errata that states C-states should not be used
[19:15:11] <waddlesplash> but of course I need the CPU ids to check that, which will be in the syslogs
[19:15:21] <Addos> ok
[19:15:46] <waddlesplash> what made me suspect this? disabling APIC also disables the C-States, iirc
[19:16:14] <Addos> it is nice being able to boot to full smp again
[19:16:14] <Addos> :)
[19:16:41] <Addos> was this changed from the alpha or something?
[19:16:52] <Addos> there are earlier builds of haiku that didn't have this issue
[19:16:58] <waddlesplash> yes, we didn't implement this feature on the alpha
[19:17:05] <waddlesplash> on most systems it is a performance/power optimization
[19:17:11] <waddlesplash> I guess on some Intel CPUs, it's broken
[19:17:47] <Addos> I appreciate you guys sticking with it
[19:17:50] <Addos> it has been a frustrating issue
[19:19:48] <Addos> man, things are super snappy with that disabled
[19:19:57] <Addos> compared to how it was behaving before
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[19:27:27] <Vidrep_64> Good morning
[19:28:05] <Begas_VBox> g'evening Vidrep_64 :)
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[19:28:23] <DebianTUX> hi all! hy old acer aspire one isn't rebooting nor shitting down properly. i've seen in this thread https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/5880 that this is an old issue. i would realy like help with this issue in the sense that: someone could help me to properly debug this
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[19:29:10] <Begas_VBox> running Aspire 5610 on the other laptop pretty fine here DebianTUX
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[19:29:19] <Vidrep_64> Begas_VBox, what up with you lately?
[19:29:50] <Begas_VBox> not much Vidrep_64, just pursuing some issues :)
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[19:30:08] <DebianTUX> Begas_VBox: i'm runing on the zg5, everything works just fine except this
[19:30:21] <DebianTUX> oh, the camera don't work, but that doesn't bothers me at all
[19:30:43] <Begas_VBox> no camera on that thing here :)
[19:31:15] <Vidrep_64> Recently I've has a situation where deskbar does not launch.
[19:31:44] <Vidrep_64> Ctl Alt Del -> restart deskbar, then it's ok
[19:32:36] <DebianTUX> Begas_VBox: my frustration is actualy not knowing where to start to debug things :/
[19:35:34] <Begas_VBox> strange Vidrep_64, haven't seen any problems with that here so far
[19:35:46] <Begas_VBox> did you check syslog DebianTUX?
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[19:40:22] <DebianTUX> Begas_VBox: checking it now. any keywords i must know?
[19:41:34] <Begasus> If you see any driver creating a problem try to disable it: https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/barrett/2013-12-15_how_permanently_blacklist_package_file/
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[19:42:37] <Begasus> I've had to do it in the past for wifi driver (still need to disable the intel video driver on the other laptop)
[19:49:51] <waddlesplash> Begasus: this won't help for failures to reboot
[19:49:59] <waddlesplash> DebianTUX: likely you just have a buggy BIOS
[19:50:15] <waddlesplash> not much we can do about that from our end
[19:51:22] <Begasus> ok waddlesplash :)
[19:51:55] <Begas_VBox> korli! :)
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[20:01:16] <DebianTUX> waddlesplash: oh, that's sad ;(
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[20:22:19] <DebianTUX> waddlesplash: i just can't read your nick without remembering the Whiplash moovie
[20:25:54] <waddlesplash> lol
[20:26:09] <waddlesplash> I had this nick about 4 years before Whiplash :P
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[20:42:53] <Addos> does anyone know where to find the old cube demo that allowed putting images and videos on the faces of the cube?
[20:43:42] <PulkoMandy> Addos: https://github.com/HaikuArchives/3DMov
[20:43:47] <waddlesplash> or https://github.com/HaikuArchives/3DMorph ?
[20:43:55] <PulkoMandy> don't know if we have a package yet
[20:44:12] <diver> 3dMov is in the depot
[20:44:22] <PulkoMandy> no, 3morph is just colored dots moving around, no video :)
[20:44:34] <Addos> neat
[20:44:40] <waddlesplash> btw, how much RAM does LibreOffice use on startup these days?
[20:44:54] <waddlesplash> IIRC it was around 60MB last I checked a few months back; wondering if that went down with rpmalloc
[20:45:36] <waddlesplash> (On Windows it uses 38MB)
[20:47:09] <diver> it uses Qt+ a few KDE libs on Haiku
[20:47:55] <diver> waddlesplash: 50MB!
[20:48:05] <waddlesplash> nice, so it did go down
[20:48:20] <diver> however, LO version is a lot newer
[20:48:23] <waddlesplash> disabling GSlice in glib probably also helped
[20:48:39] <diver> so maybe they also optimised something
[20:49:44] <diver> 70MB if you open Writer
[20:50:18] <waddlesplash> ah, 38MB on Windows is with writer open
[20:51:41] <Addos> hmm 3dmov doesn't seem to be letting me put things on all sides of the cube
[20:51:45] <diver> interestingly, if you start LibreOffice --writer it uses 75MB
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[21:19:00] <Begas_VBox> going down, g'night peeps
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