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[07:01:48] <Begasus> g'morning peeps
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[07:38:51] <Rajagopalan> good morning begasus
[07:39:03] <Rajagopalan> good morning everybody!!
[07:40:03] <Begas_VBox> good morning Rajagopalan!
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[07:46:05] <leorize> hi Begas_VBox Rajagopalan
[07:46:46] <Rajagopalan> hey leorize
[07:46:52] <Rajagopalan> no plans for sunday?
[07:47:48] <leorize> still wasting my time on games :P
[07:48:05] <Rajagopalan> oh nice finally get to see a dev who plays games
[07:48:11] <Rajagopalan> what games do you play
[07:49:07] <Begas_VBox> hi leorize :)
[07:50:13] <leorize> Rajagopalan: everything, mostly rpg atm :p
[07:52:05] <Rajagopalan> woah im having like 5 games atm i am confused which to play so i dont play any
[07:53:39] <leorize> you could play all of them if you have a big enough screen :p
[08:05:24] <Rajagopalan> just 1080p but i decided to play nfs payback right now long time so trying to get memories
[08:05:26] <Rajagopalan> :P
[08:12:25] <Begasus> I should check repology more often (just seen that there is a v3 release for argtable) :P
[08:26:13] <leorize> we might be a bit too bleeding edge :p
[08:33:30] <Begas_VBox> :P
[08:34:25] <Begas_VBox> well the older one still builds ok for gcc2 (not going to fix gcc2 errors on the new one) :P
[08:35:12] <Begas_VBox> getopt_long.c:(.text+0x1b8): undefined reference to `warnx' :P
[08:35:30] <Begas_VBox> that's for later, heading out :)
[08:36:04] <Begas_VBox> dump bump recipe is ready, will PR later on that one
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[08:45:01] <PulkoMandy> hello world!
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[08:52:17] <Rajagopalan> fprintf(stderr,"Hello Pulkomandy");
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[11:05:16] <Not-7290> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 13f83b3 - allegro: bump version, fix reference to libpng16 (#3832)
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[14:29:20] <Not-7290> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 1ddbb61 - bump revision after allegro bump.
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<Not-7290> [haiku/website] korli pushed 1 commit to korli-prerequisites [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjWmp
[14:48:32] <Not-7290> [haiku/website] korli 6c70b96 - update prerequisites for Haiku/pkgman
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<Not-7290> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-1/±1] https://git.io/fjWYz
[15:28:52] <Not-7290> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 722ec61 - alex4: fix the build after allegro bump.
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[16:07:10] <_Dario_> "Obi Wlan Kenobi" wins the price for me
[16:09:55] <PulkoMandy> a friend had "a series of tubes" somewhere in his building
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[17:06:00] <Anarchos> how to send some text in a unix socket ? i tried « echo "aaa" > student_socket» but i get «bash: student_socket: Is a directory»
[17:07:52] <Anarchos> though «file student_socket» identifies the file as a socket
[17:11:06] <leorize> Anarchos: you send it via the normal send() interface
[17:15:57] <Anarchos> leorize i just wanted to test my socket in the shell
[17:16:18] <Anarchos> and the 'is a directory' error message doesn't seem to be accurate
[17:16:57] <leorize> sockets doesn't work that way :p
[17:17:23] <Anarchos> leorize ok . But they should ;)
[17:17:36] <leorize> complain that to posix makers :p
[17:18:23] <Anarchos> leorize 'everything is a file bla bla bla. Wait, i can't write to a socket file ?'
[17:18:49] <Anarchos> leorize i should add my own chapter to the 'Unix hater's guide' …
[17:19:00] <leorize> the entire idea blew when internet got into the mix :p
[17:19:20] <leorize> http and stuff isn't file anywhere other than Plan 9
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[17:23:40] <PulkoMandy> or you could use FIFOs (named pipes) instead, which do work like that
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[18:04:38] <Anarchos> PulkoMandy with the same accept/bind/read/write semantics ?
[18:05:10] <PulkoMandy> probably not exactly
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[18:17:56] <HaikuUser> Quick question, how do i build one thing in the Haiku source tree without building the whole OS
[18:18:21] <HaikuUser> like if i wanted to build MediaPlayer or a translator, but don't need to build the entirety of the OS
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[18:31:30] <PulkoMandy> HaikuUser: jam -q MediaPlayer
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[18:42:43] <HaikuUser> hmm i tried it without the -q and now with the -q but still seems to be building a large part of the OS
[18:43:11] <HaikuUser> which i guess is fine i just thought i was doing something wrong, i'm new to this whole jam thing
[18:51:27] <PulkoMandy> it builds the dependencies as well
[18:51:39] <PulkoMandy> so yes, the first time it will build various devtools and parts of the OS
[18:51:58] <HaikuUser> makes sense
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[20:17:40] <Vidrep_64> Hi
[20:18:18] <PulkoMandy> hi
[20:18:54] <Vidrep_64> How's your mentoriing coming along, so far?
[20:19:52] <Vidrep_64> There's only 3 students this time?
[20:19:56] <PulkoMandy> yes
[20:20:14] <Vidrep_64> How many in past years?
[20:20:46] <PulkoMandy> there's no point in accepting disappointing students, so we decided to scale down a bit and keep only the best ones. Seems to work so far but it's been only 1 week
[20:21:00] <Vidrep_64> That's what I thought
[20:21:08] <PulkoMandy> we went up to 8 I think but it changes every year
[20:21:11] <Vidrep_64> 3 is manageable
[20:21:26] <PulkoMandy> well, it's 1 per mentor, so if we have enough mentors we can take more
[20:22:38] <Vidrep_64> I guess the "biggie" for you is the webkit2 implementation
[20:22:43] <PulkoMandy> we had some other students who appeared to be skilled but submitted applications that looked a bit light. And indeed it turned out it was only their second application and they preferred to work in other projects
[20:23:16] <PulkoMandy> all projects are important. I'm mentoring both this and the input preferences rework. But overall what matters is getting the students to continue contributing after the end of GSoC
[20:23:33] <Vidrep_64> You'd know ;)
[20:23:47] <PulkoMandy> otherwise I'd be just doing the work myself, it would be probably faster and easier
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[20:25:50] <Vidrep_64> What are the advantages of webkit2?
[20:26:25] <PulkoMandy> first, it's not something that's been deprecated for 10 years
[20:26:51] <PulkoMandy> so it is easier to implement new things: WebExtensions, content blockers (for adblock), private sessions, etc
[20:27:17] <PulkoMandy> it allows us to run each tab of the web browser in a separate process, so if one page freezes or crashes, it does not bring down the whole browser
[20:28:07] <PulkoMandy> I hope it will have a little better platform abstraction, so less work for updates
[20:28:38] <PulkoMandy> and also, if we get Rajagopalan to continue working on it after the summer, it means I have more time to submit our work to the webkit team for integration there
[20:29:22] <Vidrep_64> So, all-in-all a worthwhile endeavour
[20:30:05] <PulkoMandy> yes, I had started working on it back in 2015 at the end of my contract. But then I didn't have time so all I could do was try to keep up to date with changes in webkit
[20:30:22] <PulkoMandy> one single part time dev is not enough for this, clearly
[20:31:12] <Vidrep_64> Who else is somewhat involded in webkit? jua and maybe leavengood?
[20:32:11] <PulkoMandy> yes, and stippi as he mentored Maxime Simon back in 2009, but it's been a while
[20:32:57] <PulkoMandy> there were some patches from sneaky recently as well, I hope to see more
[20:33:24] <Vidrep_64> Web+ in its current iteration can be a little frustrating to use at times, but I just live with it, and report new bugs as the pop up
[20:33:44] <Vidrep_64> *they
[20:34:18] <PulkoMandy> yes, there will probably not be much less bugs (unless we find problems along the way) but they will be less frustrating when only one tab is frozen or crashed, at least
[20:34:32] <Vidrep_64> I think I closed one bug report so far, since the switch to 1.6.9
[20:35:26] <PulkoMandy> I'll continue merging changes from webkit but I didn't really investigate any of the bugs more closely
[20:35:45] <PulkoMandy> so it's just hoping the problem is not on our side and ends up going away as we update
[20:35:55] <Vidrep_64> That might be something to do before the next Beta release
[20:36:29] <Vidrep_64> v1.7.0 or whatever
[20:36:46] <PulkoMandy> we'll see how the summer goes
[20:36:56] <PulkoMandy> maybe there will be a 2.0.0
[20:38:42] <Vidrep_64> What happened when you were looking into libusb issues? I think you had a old scanner or printer ??
[20:39:00] <PulkoMandy> my printer is too old for that, it uses a serial port :D
[20:39:20] <Vidrep_64> Retro printing
[20:39:33] <PulkoMandy> there is a patch on Gerrit that may fix deadlocks of EHCI but I didn't have time to try that with one of my troublesome usb gadgets
[20:40:04] <PulkoMandy> and I made a pull request to libusb to upstream our changes, as someone submitted patches directly to upstream and we should probably include those in our release as well
[20:40:18] <PulkoMandy> so waiting for them to merge now, and hopefully release a new version soon
[20:42:01] <Vidrep_64> So many usb devices these days. Getting all the different protocals working
[20:42:18] <Vidrep_64> XHCI is much improved
[20:42:56] <PulkoMandy> yes, but now we're going to see Thunderbolt in the wild more and more
[20:43:19] <Vidrep_64> Always a game of catch-up
[20:45:41] <Vidrep_64> PulkoMandy, thanks for your efforts on webkit etc.
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[20:51:09] <Vidrep_64> Gotta go...later
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[21:15:33] <Rajagopalan> sure Pulkomandy :)
[21:15:54] <Rajagopalan> Not going to stop until Web+ gets WebKit2
[21:16:24] <Rajagopalan> u know what i successfully created connection between 2 processess :)
[21:16:47] <Rajagopalan> came home and did little bit of tinkering
[21:16:55] <PulkoMandy> nice :)
[21:17:23] <Rajagopalan> one sec pushing changes right now
[21:18:42] <Rajagopalan> done and me going to sleep
[21:18:49] <Rajagopalan> toodles and good night !
[21:19:11] <PulkoMandy> good night :)
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[21:58:54] <Begasus> g'night peeps
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[22:29:34] <pratik_dey> hi
[22:30:31] <waddlesplash> hello
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[22:43:55] <Vidrep_64> Hi waddlesplash
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[23:28:10] <waddlesplash> hey
[23:31:14] <gordonjcp> evening
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