May 3, 2019 
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psi_plus: bump version to 1.4.672 (#3828)[03:50:37] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:57:50] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[03:57:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[04:08:30] *** Glider_IRC__ is now known as Glider_IRC[04:10:15] *** KobrAs <KobrAs!sid28465@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uowqbqfsiaoagsbz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[04:11:57] *** KobrAs <KobrAs!sid28465@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-khgmmjpnziahesqs> has joined #haiku[04:20:16] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:26:32] *** diver1 <diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:86d0:7a00:cc56:4dae:cd77:e5fa> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[04:30:28] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[04:30:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[04:35:37] *** Glider_IRC <Glider_IRC!~Glider_IR@37.170.174.139> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:36:01] *** Glider_IRC <Glider_IRC!~Glider_IR@37.170.174.139> has joined #haiku[04:50:54] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:05:22] *** dr_evil <dr_evil!~marcus@200116b802b0fe000ec47afffe6ccace.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[05:06:46] *** dr_evil <dr_evil!~marcus@200116b80200a4000ec47afffe6ccace.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has joined #haiku[05:08:28] *** jjpx <jjpx!~jjpx@gateway/tor-sasl/jjpx> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:08:54] *** jjpx <jjpx!~jjpx@gateway/tor-sasl/jjpx> has joined #haiku[05:13:30] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[05:13:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[05:18:57] *** dby <dby!~vision@ip-192-24-195-230.dynamic.fuse.net> has joined #haiku[05:20:57] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:28:37] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[05:28:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[05:30:32] *** dby <dby!~vision@ip-192-24-195-230.dynamic.fuse.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]:)[05:31:29] *** piku <piku!~piku@47.202.117.152> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[05:36:42] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@host86-173-42-183.range86-173.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:37:10] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@host86-173-42-183.range86-173.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[05:51:04] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:52:44] *** jjpx <jjpx!~jjpx@gateway/tor-sasl/jjpx> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:00:29] <sneaky> I spend more time reading the code than anything else. I can't get my head around the graphics stuff at this point. But I'd like to do something useful so papercuts and low hanging fruit have my attention.[06:01:16] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[06:01:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[06:03:52] *** dr_evil <dr_evil!~marcus@200116b80200a4000ec47afffe6ccace.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[06:05:06] *** dr_evil <dr_evil!~marcus@200116b8020a4a000ec47afffe6ccace.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has joined #haiku[06:09:43] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has quit IRC ()[06:12:08] <waddlesplash> sneaky: maybe do some hacking on the OS itself?[06:12:17] <waddlesplash> get acquainted with our APIs and stuff better[06:20:43] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:21:56] <sneaky> Would there be a recommended place to jump in, waddlesplash, or would it be better to just pull apart whatever caught my attention?[06:24:57] <waddlesplash> the latter, really[06:26:36] <sneaky> :-)[06:27:32] <waddlesplash> find some tickets that interest you and start asking questions[06:33:47] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[06:33:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[06:40:34] *** Prognoz <Prognoz!~Prognoz@181.231.204.129> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[06:51:14] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:51:49] *** Lucas_Gray <Lucas_Gray!~Wryhder@41.190.30.140> has joined #haiku[06:54:51] *** Prognoz <Prognoz!~Prognoz@host.ensoft.dev> has joined #haiku[07:06:53] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[07:06:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[07:08:44] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.217.116.64> has joined #haiku[07:12:25] *** brj <brj!~brj@123.201.105.110> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[07:12:32] *** Prognoz <Prognoz!~Prognoz@host.ensoft.dev> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[07:14:40] *** brj <brj!~brj@123.201.77.24> has joined #haiku[07:21:21] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:22:07] *** Lucas_Gray <Lucas_Gray!~Wryhder@41.190.30.140> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[07:37:45] <sushilv> In this file https://github.com/haiku/haiku/blob/master/src/servers/bluetooth/BluetoothServer.cpp from line no 284 to 355[07:38:38] <sushilv> the hci commands are unable to reply to bluetooth server with correct info[07:39:05] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.217.116.64> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[07:40:13] <sushilv> waddlesplash: I think most of the problems lies here[07:40:33] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[07:40:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[07:51:02] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:58:56] <waddlesplash> sushilv: okay and?[07:59:03] <waddlesplash> what next?[08:03:54] *** sushilv <sushilv!~sushilhub@1.6.109.195> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:07:24] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.217.116.64> has joined #haiku[08:10:58] *** sushilv <sushilv!~sushilhub@1.6.109.195> has joined #haiku[08:13:16] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[08:13:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[08:14:42] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.217.116.64> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[08:19:55] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:21:28] *** Vrondir <Vrondir!~Vrondir@85.187.40.101> has joined #haiku[08:21:28] *** Vrondir <Vrondir!~Vrondir@85.187.40.101> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:23:00] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[08:33:07] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p200300E90F252900FC780531623F37B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[08:33:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[08:34:47] *** Maturion <Maturion!~Maturion@p200300EDE72F7D009417F20F21CF450B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[08:41:01] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[08:41:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[08:41:37] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.217.116.64> has joined #haiku[08:50:27] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:52:48] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.217.116.64> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[09:00:36] *** diver1 <diver1!~Adium@broadband-188-32-107-207.ip.moscow.rt.ru> has joined #haiku[09:01:44] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.217.116.64> has joined #haiku[09:03:21] <sneaky> i might also try "learning to program with haiku", darkwyrm's stuff, whatever, to get a better handle on the Be API and such. Right now I have a 10,000 foot view, am aware of translators and messages and that's just about it. i saw there were a couple of bugs about implementing posix funcs, they seem like they might be fun too. I have to admit that most of the intersting stuff was aesthetics and hardware that i physically have lying around (ICH, AC97, Wacom,[09:03:22] <sneaky> RTLxxxx etc) although I have no experience hacking drivers whatsoever[09:03:27] <sneaky> whoops long message[09:15:53] *** ptrnull <ptrnull!~Mutter@240e:bf:d219:13a5:3c96:5a8f:bbaa:8b4e> has joined #haiku[09:16:39] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p200300DF7F4A7C002D56383153B30E9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[09:17:48] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[09:17:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[09:19:03] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4qba4e9x6ckme2nffsa.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[09:19:21] <Begasus> g'morning peeps[09:20:10] *** ptrnull <ptrnull!~Mutter@240e:bf:d219:13a5:3c96:5a8f:bbaa:8b4e> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:20:19] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the 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in libsolv which it uses[12:05:48] *** kedziorno <kedziorno!~kedziorno@176.100.198.27.studiowik.net.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[12:07:13] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p200300DF7F4A7C002D56383153B30E9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[12:07:13] *** euver1 is now known as euver[12:10:38] <diver1> it is called cleandeps there[12:11:25] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.217.116.64> has joined #haiku[12:12:19] *** Glider_IRC <Glider_IRC!~Glider_IR@37.170.174.139> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:16:44] <Knez> diver1: allright[12:17:05] <Knez> so all unneeded dependencies gets unpacked at boot etc?[12:17:23] <Knez> Even though I removed the application that needed them[12:20:53] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@103.217.116.64> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:21:27] *** amritpal <amritpal!~amritpal@2405:205:438d:d458:c0b9:4b70:aae3:c6e5> has joined #haiku[12:24:09] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> 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It just feels unnecessary to mount unneeded packages.[14:55:05] <thaflo> Rajagopalan, nice words! good luck![14:55:26] <Rajagopalan> thank you thaflo :)[14:55:49] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[14:55:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[15:03:08] *** nepugia <nepugia!~nepugia@200116b8647b9800d25099fffe4e8f9a.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has joined #haiku[15:05:26] *** MrHuggy <MrHuggy!~MrHuggy@adsl-178-78-88-138.karoo.kcom.com> has joined #haiku[15:12:58] *** brj <brj!~brj@123.201.77.24> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[15:15:04] *** brj <brj!~brj@123.201.163.49> has joined #haiku[15:20:15] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:23:19] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[15:23:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[15:39:39] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4qba4e9mdzcmx25m8w8.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[15:40:11] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C05BEA.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[15:49:45] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:16:58] *** haqk <haqk!~haqk@61-68-96-205.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)[16:21:10] *** MrHuggy <MrHuggy!~MrHuggy@adsl-178-78-88-138.karoo.kcom.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[16:24:41] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[16:24:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[16:41:07] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:49:41] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[16:54:39] *** liuyb <liuyb!~liuyb@114.248.108.105> has joined #haiku[17:01:42] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[17:01:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[17:05:20] *** AD_MOS2 <AD_MOS2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b2a6:3300:5456:c78a:8514:311e> has joined #haiku[17:08:48] *** AD_MOS <AD_MOS!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b2a6:3300:acfb:9c50:84c4:3898> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:10:05] *** Ltem <Ltem!~ltem@h081217191110.dyn.cm.kabsi.at> has quit IRC (Quit: bye)[17:11:15] *** Glider_IRC <Glider_IRC!~Glider_IR@37.168.171.83> has joined #haiku[17:11:18] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:17:10] *** Lucas_Gray <Lucas_Gray!~Wryhder@41.190.30.88> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:18:20] *** dretnx <dretnx!59d46e8c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.212.110.140> has joined #haiku[17:18:41] <dretnx> How long shall we wait, until hardware gfx acceleration becomes reality in haiku?[17:21:40] *** Lucas_Gray <Lucas_Gray!~Wryhder@41.190.30.88> has joined #haiku[17:22:48] <PulkoMandy> waiting will not make it progress :>[17:31:56] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[17:31:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[17:41:23] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:42:32] *** dretnx <dretnx!59d46e8c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.212.110.140> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[17:47:40] <Forza> Hello. Sometimes the SoftwareUpdater fails to download a package. Unknown why. When I retry it downloads all packages again, and not just the one that failed. Is there a way for it to cache the files?[17:47:43] *** ClaudioM <ClaudioM!~ClaudioM@c-73-46-231-176.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[17:53:57] <extrowerk> Knez: consider the following: i install mpv, and it gets all the dependecies, like x264 and things[17:54:25] <extrowerk> now i notice mpv is not my favorite, so i uninstall it, and start to hack on an own media player.[17:54:50] <extrowerk> what should the package manager do in this case?[17:55:15] <extrowerk> how should the user say: "I know it is orphan, but let it there, i need it!"?[17:55:40] <extrowerk> right click: "I_WANT!"?[17:56:44] <extrowerk> there is possibly a way to handle it right, but it isn't so eassy like: just don't deactivate/uninstall orphan things, as maybe some of us hacking unpackaged things[17:57:07] <extrowerk> maybe for this it would be a nice solution to steal some ideas from the guix project[17:57:45] <extrowerk> and maybe it isn't the biggest problem at all, what i described.[18:02:04] <Forza> extrowerk: Portage in Gentoo handles it by either you protect it, or you create a manual @set. Simply a text file with each dependency you want on one line each[18:02:24] <PulkoMandy> extrowerk: if you have the _devel package, it is a good reason to not install the libs[18:02:34] <PulkoMandy> and we can assume you know what you do if you install _devel packages[18:02:35] *** Lucas_Gray <Lucas_Gray!~Wryhder@41.190.30.88> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[18:03:05] <PulkoMandy> Forza: a cache for downloads is a missing feature, help welcome :)[18:03:25] <Forza> PulkoMandy: :) Just a user.[18:04:07] <Forza> And I dont think an easy to use OS shoudl assume users know what they are doing, even if they play with devel stuff. They might be new, or try something off the Internet.[18:04:43] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4qba4e9t7blvn87u3k0.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[18:05:40] <PulkoMandy> what I mean is, we can consider all _devel package and application packages to be managed by the user[18:06:02] <PulkoMandy> and handle libraries on our own according to the dependencies, maybe with a way to remember that you want to pin some of them[18:06:25] <PulkoMandy> in case you have some binary from BeOS or that you compiled yourself, but don't want the matching _devel files around, I guess[18:07:01] <Not-7290> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 2 commits to master [+2/-1/±1] https://git.io/fjnmo[18:07:02] <Not-7290> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 3f9ebed - sqlite: bump version.[18:07:04] <Not-7290> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 076894e - gifsicle: fix gcc2 build.[18:07:17] <PulkoMandy> in general, we should be very careful about removing stuff if it risks breaking something, and on the other hand we should be able to show a very clear list of what's installed and what can be removed to users[18:07:43] <PulkoMandy> when I observe most of my family, they are always super afraid to remove anything they don't know about in the "add/remove programs" list in Windows[18:08:01] <PulkoMandy> is it a virus? or is it some kind of super important core part of the OS I don't know about?[18:09:42] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54c05bea.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[18:11:42] <Forza> Heh, yea. But that's a problem in all OS.[18:12:07] <extrowerk> PulkoMandy: i thunk you meant "<PulkoMandy> extrowerk: if you have the _devel package, it is a good reason to not *UN*install the libs", right?[18:12:11] <PulkoMandy> that means it's a good opportunity for us to try to solve something, right?[18:12:23] <PulkoMandy> yes[18:13:08] <Forza> Indeed, PulkoMandy. Especially on Linuxes, it is almost hopeless unless your are a very serious long-time user to know what's what[18:13:48] <extrowerk> PulkoMandy: could it be possible, that it is impossible to change the file descriptor properties on packaged volume?[18:14:01] <extrowerk> i mean is it right?[18:14:04] <PulkoMandy> typicall "fun" example: Ubuntu filling its /boot partition with old kernels and never removing them[18:14:10] <Begasus> One good thing about the package manager is that it informs you when you try to remove something related to other packages[18:14:23] <PulkoMandy> extrowerk: you mean the file attributes?[18:15:19] <Forza> And naming schemes.. I think Gentoo is easier here with their virtuals, but still much too hard for most normal users[18:16:12] <extrowerk> no, consider tthe following (and forgive if i use wrong words): you tries to open a file, you creates a file descriptor with some O_FLAGS and then you are trying to change the flags with fcntl[18:16:43] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[18:16:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[18:16:48] <extrowerk> is it supposed to work on packaged file system? Or does the FS makes any difference here?[18:16:58] <Forza> And after years of using Gentoo I just recently started to use sets more actively when I want to install stuff. Like I want to run a photo gallery, so I need apache, piwigo, some lib or another.. I dump in a set and emerge @my-photogallery :D[18:17:09] <extrowerk> i still try to understand what this simple code snippet do: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/trunk/ruby.c#L2098[18:17:38] *** BGA <BGA!~bga@c-98-248-157-73.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[18:17:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o BGA[18:17:45] <extrowerk> this fails on Haiku, as the opened file is packaged, but works if i build it out of haikuporter.[18:17:46] <PulkoMandy> extrowerk: it's trying to set a lock on a file[18:17:57] <PulkoMandy> to make sure it has exclusive access and no one messes with the file[18:18:12] <extrowerk> my assumption was: maybe it is impossible to change the O_flags on packaged filesystem[18:18:34] <PulkoMandy> this has nothing to do with the O_ flags[18:18:51] <PulkoMandy> O_ is behavior of the file descriptor, not the file itself[18:19:12] <extrowerk> then how is it fails on packaged fs?[18:19:18] <PulkoMandy> "I want to only read", "I want to only write", "I want every write to be sent to the filesystem immediately with no buffering", etc[18:19:28] <PulkoMandy> this is using F_SETFL, or "Set File Lock"[18:19:38] <PulkoMandy> to make sure no other software tries to open the file[18:20:04] <PulkoMandy> this is implemented by each filesystem, in particular, the implementation for NFS should make the lock also work for other computers accessing the same volume[18:20:20] <PulkoMandy> maybe packagefs does not know how to do this, yet[18:20:35] <extrowerk> ok, exclusive writing access (or even writing access) should fail on packaged fs[18:21:14] <PulkoMandy> yes, but they open in read-only mode here[18:21:18] <extrowerk> thanks for the explanation. so it is at the end depends on the underlying fs.[18:21:29] <PulkoMandy> (# define MODE_TO_LOAD (O_RDONLY))[18:22:35] <extrowerk> then i have to make it sure it is opened as O_RDONLY, and it will then work[18:23:00] <extrowerk> nah, i am wrong[18:23:10] <extrowerk> no, i am right[18:23:19] <extrowerk> no, i am no idea, what i am[18:23:20] <PulkoMandy> I think replacing #if defined HAVE_FCNTL && MODE_TO_LOAD != O_RDONLY with #if defined HAVE_FCNTL && !defined(__HAIKU__) && MODE_TO_LOAD != O_RDONLY[18:24:13] <extrowerk> the ruby guys told me, they don't want to write this file, and actually this file should never modified[18:25:08] <PulkoMandy> mh.. I'm wrong, this is not about file locking[18:25:11] <PulkoMandy> mh...[18:25:17] <extrowerk> i asked them ,why then they trying to lock it, but they never answered my question, so i was somewhat puzzled, what this code actually does, i tought i overlooked something and it makes something trivial, thats why they doesn't giving me any answer[18:25:43] <extrowerk> afaik the comment explains, they disabling O_NONBLOCK here[18:25:47] <PulkoMandy> they open the file in non-blocking mode, and then they try to remove the non-blocking mode, yes[18:26:20] <PulkoMandy> well, so maybe opening in blocking mode from the start will work fine[18:26:30] <PulkoMandy> make it so we use # define MODE_TO_LOAD (O_RDONLY)[18:26:53] <PulkoMandy> without O_NONBLOCK or O_NDELAY because we don't allow unsetting these[18:26:58] <PulkoMandy> maybe it's a bug in our fcntl[18:27:06] <PulkoMandy> but for now we can avoid the problem this way[18:28:59] <extrowerk> ok to get it together: fcntl depending on the underlying FS ,and its features, if the FS doesn't supports it, it will fail, so i got it right. Now my task is to make sure the file won't be opened with O_NONBLOCK or O_NDELAY, and it will be ok then, right?[18:29:41] <extrowerk> as this is currently the only blocking thing in ruby (there are other problems, but lets start with the first one...)[18:30:04] <Not-7290> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjnmb[18:30:05] <Not-7290> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 43b832d - mev: don't ignore error in build.sh[18:30:39] <extrowerk> i made a small c program, which creates a FD, and tries to change the O_flags, it workson normal writeable files, but laways fails on packaged files[18:32:01] <extrowerk> thanks for your help, i will try to upstream the patches[18:34:16] <Not-7290> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/fjnmx[18:34:17] <Not-7290> [haikuports/haikuports] korli a3f1827 - mev: bump revision.[18:40:06] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[18:40:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[18:41:10] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:42:19] *** liuyb <liuyb!~liuyb@114.248.108.105> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[18:45:00] *** sushilv <sushilv!~sushilhub@1.6.109.195> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:45:27] *** sushilv <sushilv!~sushilhub@1.6.109.195> has joined #haiku[18:49:40] <disks86> Myself and a couple people I work with are interested in working on Raspberry PI3 support in haiku. Who's the best person to talk to?[18:52:16] <diver1> disks86: probably developers working on arm last https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=grep&q=arm[18:56:02] *** sushilv <sushilv!~sushilhub@1.6.109.195> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:56:34] *** sushilv <sushilv!~sushilhub@1.6.109.195> has joined #haiku[18:57:06] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[18:57:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[18:58:25] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54c05bea.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[18:58:48] *** vsushil <vsushil!~sushilhub@1.6.109.195> has joined #haiku[18:58:53] <Begasus> easy evening, g'night peeps[18:58:58] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4qba4e9t7blvn87u3k0.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[19:01:04] *** vsushil <vsushil!~sushilhub@1.6.109.195> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:01:29] *** sushilv <sushilv!~sushilhub@1.6.109.195> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[19:03:52] *** Lucas_Gray <Lucas_Gray!~Wryhder@41.190.31.253> has joined #haiku[19:05:12] *** Prognoz <Prognoz!~Prognoz@181.231.204.129> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[19:09:46] <extrowerk> disks86: have fun hacking haiku![19:10:01] <extrowerk> and do not forget, 5-7-5[19:10:44] <extrowerk> diver1: hi[19:11:29] <diver1> hi extrowerk[19:11:32] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-234-131.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:11:47] <extrowerk> how doing in moscow? weather? i made cam at tuesday night, and it was stil lfreezing cold here. But already ticks :([19:12:33] <extrowerk> it isn't ggreat to wake up at 5 because you are almost freezed, and dissasemble your gears with frozen itching fingers.[19:15:23] *** Lucas_Gray <Lucas_Gray!~Wryhder@41.190.31.253> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[19:19:40] *** thaflo <thaflo!~thaflo@37.186.167.188> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.3]: i've been blurred!)[19:19:46] <Knez> Good evening[19:20:24] <Knez> extrowerk: cold here as well. Was snowing pretty much all of yesterday and all through the night[19:20:46] <Knez> And a bit this morning. Has been at most 4C today.[19:21:14] <PulkoMandy> the arm build is currently broken because of a linker error in ICU trying to link libstdc++ that happens only on ARM platform[19:21:15] <diver1> extrowerk: the weather is good, pretty warm outside[19:22:08] <extrowerk> Knez: where are you located?[19:22:19] <extrowerk> i am in central EU[19:22:36] <Knez> extrowerk: Sweden[19:22:48] <extrowerk> oh[19:23:06] <extrowerk> have fun while you guys waiting to the summer then[19:23:32] <Knez> We had 20C a couple of days a go, so it's back to winter for us. We had our summer ;)[19:24:27] <extrowerk> then forget, what i said, just whine then.[19:24:28] <extrowerk> :)[19:25:51] <extrowerk> interestingly we already have ticks, thats bad, i just found one in my leg today morning, happily sucking my blood in the last 2 days, i have no idea how i didn't find it earlier[19:28:04] *** HAIKU-irker199 <HAIKU-irker199!~irker@walter.haiku-os.org> has joined #haiku[19:28:04] <HAIKU-irker199> haiku.master: mmuman * hrev53105 [2 commits] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=740904976518+%5E02079c66f3cf[19:28:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v HAIKU-irker199[19:28:05] <HAIKU-irker199> 1b48852e84e7: Fix doxygen + whitespace[19:28:05] <HAIKU-irker199> 740904976518: Fix warning[19:28:10] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has joined #haiku[19:28:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[19:31:47] *** dogcow <dogcow!~dogcow@freebsd/user/dogcow> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:32:09] *** axeld 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