April 21, 2018 
< | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | >
April 21, 2018 [00:09:06] *** geoid <geoid!~geoid@176.26.146.159> has joined #haiku[00:11:54] *** AD_MOS2 <AD_MOS2!~JohnN@cpc114760-brad22-2-0-cust176.17-1.cable.virginm.net> has joined #haiku[00:12:44] *** AD_Anime2 <AD_Anime2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:b09f:5d91:c90a:7fb0> has joined #haiku[00:16:17] *** AD_MOS2 <AD_MOS2!~JohnN@cpc114760-brad22-2-0-cust176.17-1.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[00:20:28] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@broadband-46-242-8-89.moscow.rt.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:20:44] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:d95c:376b:dbce:b539> has joined #haiku[00:21:14] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:d95c:376b:dbce:b539> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:21:30] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:d95c:376b:dbce:b539> has joined #haiku[00:22:00] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:d95c:376b:dbce:b539> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:22:14] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:d95c:376b:dbce:b539> has joined #haiku[00:22:46] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:d95c:376b:dbce:b539> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:23:02] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:d95c:376b:dbce:b539> has joined #haiku[00:23:33] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:d95c:376b:dbce:b539> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:23:49] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:d95c:376b:dbce:b539> has joined #haiku[00:24:19] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:d95c:376b:dbce:b539> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:24:37] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:d95c:376b:dbce:b539> has joined #haiku[00:25:05] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:d95c:376b:dbce:b539> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:25:24] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:d95c:376b:dbce:b539> has joined #haiku[00:26:53] *** tombhadAC <tombhadAC!~tombhadAC@xd527a0f7.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: System rebooting)[00:27:38] *** rmotao <rmotao!~ATOM@unaffiliated/rmotao> has left #haiku ("Leaving")[00:30:25] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@ip-117.net-89-2-152.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[00:41:45] *** Vidrep_gcc2h <Vidrep_gcc2h!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[00:50:21] *** AD_Anime2 <AD_Anime2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:b09f:5d91:c90a:7fb0> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:50:44] *** AD_Anime2 <AD_Anime2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:b09f:5d91:c90a:7fb0> has joined #haiku[00:51:32] *** stux16777216Away <stux16777216Away!stux@cosmo.lunarshells.com> has joined #haiku[00:54:14] *** stux|work <stux|work!stux@2a01:270:2050:1337::1> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[01:02:45] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[01:02:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[01:12:32] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kapix@2a02:a31c:853f:7c00:329c:23ff:fe65:3b5> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:25:24] *** geoid <geoid!~geoid@176.26.146.159> has quit IRC (Quit: Lingo: www.lingoirc.com)[01:26:11] *** c-sanchez <c-sanchez!~c-sanchez@190.79.156.25> has joined #haiku[01:45:15] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@186.22.120.226> has joined #haiku[02:18:21] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[02:19:56] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has joined #haiku[02:24:10] *** c-sanchez <c-sanchez!~c-sanchez@190.79.156.25> has quit IRC (Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. https://miranda-ng.org/)[02:33:35] *** bradsco_mac <bradsco_mac!~brad@c-71-63-126-5.hsd1.va.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[02:38:10] *** pixdamix <pixdamix!~pix@unaffiliated/pixdamix> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[02:39:56] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[02:44:00] <leorize> miqlas: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1936719/what-are-the-gcc-predefined-macros-for-the-compilers-version-number#1936745[02:50:10] *** [Beta] <[Beta]!~beta@steamdb/johndrinkwater.name> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[02:54:46] *** johndrinkwater <johndrinkwater!~beta@steamdb/johndrinkwater.name> has joined #haiku[02:56:09] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@200116b82a6f320016dae9fffe69b4f1.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:06:58] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.20.155.68> has quit IRC (Quit: Dariost)[03:09:15] *** bradsco_mac <bradsco_mac!~brad@c-71-63-126-5.hsd1.va.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[03:52:10] *** andreasdr <andreasdr!2e8e8b61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.142.139.97> has joined #haiku[04:29:22] *** BitPuffin <BitPuffin!~isak@c83-248-113-111.bredband.comhem.se> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:43:13] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@unaffiliated/cenbe> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[04:44:53] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@cpe-184-58-196-239.wi.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[04:44:53] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@cpe-184-58-196-239.wi.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[04:44:53] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@unaffiliated/cenbe> has joined #haiku[04:47:49] *** AD_Anime2 <AD_Anime2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:b09f:5d91:c90a:7fb0> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[04:56:33] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[05:10:17] *** stippi_ <stippi_!~stippi@p54824ACA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[05:13:34] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@p4FE6AB7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[05:15:39] *** DCatt <DCatt!~vision@pool-71-113-4-47.rcmdva.east.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[05:53:34] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has joined #haiku[06:03:48] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@186.22.120.226> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[06:06:29] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has quit IRC (Quit: andyhuzhill)[06:06:41] *** lorglas__ <lorglas__!~lorglas@p200300E413D50300946495847A2112D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[06:07:01] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has joined #haiku[06:11:01] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:11:23] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has joined #haiku[06:12:46] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:23:45] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@host-67-44-193-46.hnremote.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:25:11] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[06:27:17] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has joined #haiku[06:27:58] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has joined #haiku[06:30:57] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@host-67-44-192-227.hnremote.net> has joined #haiku[07:08:28] *** lorglas__ <lorglas__!~lorglas@p200300E413D50300946495847A2112D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[07:13:49] *** HAIKU-irker722 <HAIKU-irker722!~irker@maui.haiku-os.org> has joined #haiku[07:13:49] <HAIKU-irker722> haiku.master: niels.reedijk * hrev51884 [2 commits] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6675afbae286+%5E03df8bfcf2b5[07:13:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v HAIKU-irker722[07:13:49] <HAIKU-irker722> 76a3fe60e27b: Update translations from Pootle[07:13:49] <HAIKU-irker722> 6675afbae286: Update translations from Pootle[07:31:29] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@2001:ee0:4101:4ff4::ad0> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.1)[07:32:48] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:33:07] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has joined #haiku[07:36:00] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #4321 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/4321 blamelist: Automatic Committer <niels.reedijk at gmail dot com>[07:38:45] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[07:38:57] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@public-gprs351733.centertel.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:46:36] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[08:18:21] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-188-099-122-121.188.099.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[08:18:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[08:30:21] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@host-67-44-192-227.hnremote.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:08:15] *** tombhadAC <tombhadAC!~tombhadac@x4db4af7f.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[09:22:37] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-188-099-122-121.188.099.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: Oi, with the poodles at BeGeistert 031: https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/begeistert-031)[09:24:32] *** vooshy <vooshy!~vooshy@cpc120824-nrwh12-2-0-cust286.4-4.cable.virginm.net> has joined #haiku[09:25:33] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@121.99.226.126> has joined #haiku[09:33:30] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[09:33:41] <Begasus> g'morning peeps[09:35:10] *** qbit <qbit!~qbit@spark.akb.io> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:37:27] <miqlas> boing Bega[09:38:08] <miqlas> got my new haiku machine. it is pretty awesome[09:38:44] <Begasus> moin miqlas! nice ![09:39:16] <Begasus> booted again native, has been a while :) need to do some updates ;)[09:43:57] *** Begas_ <Begas_!~Begas_@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[09:43:58] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:44:09] <Begas_> that didn't went well ...[09:44:41] *** qbit <qbit!~qbit@spark.akb.io> has joined #haiku[09:44:47] <miqlas> Begas_: just setting things up: http://chunk.io/miqlas/4a29731cce1a49f298a633941b2ad4de[09:47:35] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has joined #haiku[09:49:27] *** Begas_ <Begas_!~Begas_@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:50:54] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpiojgylgglko9fv.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[09:51:05] <Begasus> back to virtual :/[09:51:11] <Begasus> ps, looked nice miqlas :)[09:55:54] *** abx1_ <abx1_!uid103467@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jgkuwowksqhlhktc> has joined #haiku[09:57:01] *** vooshy <vooshy!~vooshy@cpc120824-nrwh12-2-0-cust286.4-4.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:57:42] *** vooshy <vooshy!~vooshy@cpc120824-nrwh12-2-0-cust286.4-4.cable.virginm.net> has joined #haiku[10:13:52] *** HAIKU-irker722 <HAIKU-irker722!~irker@maui.haiku-os.org> has quit IRC (Quit: transmission timeout)[10:14:23] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@lns-bzn-36-82-251-21-187.adsl.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[10:14:23] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@lns-bzn-36-82-251-21-187.adsl.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[10:14:23] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has joined #haiku[10:34:13] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has quit IRC (Quit: andyhuzhill)[10:34:33] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has joined #haiku[10:38:44] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:39:04] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has joined #haiku[10:41:45] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has joined #haiku[10:41:46] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[10:54:02] *** sIRC_ <sIRC_!~sIRC_@89.107.233.220.static.exetel.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: sIRC_)[11:16:05] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@67.219.239.116> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:16:33] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@67.219.239.116> has joined #haiku[11:19:25] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@200116b82afb640016dae9fffe69b4f1.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has joined #haiku[11:29:15] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kapix@2a02:a31c:853f:7c00:329c:23ff:fe65:3b5> has joined #haiku[11:29:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KapiX[11:31:39] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpiojgylgglko9fv.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:34:13] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has quit IRC (Quit: andyhuzhill)[11:34:58] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpimpnmyn7zrhs9e.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[11:39:07] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has joined #haiku[11:41:20] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@public-gprs350677.centertel.pl> has joined #haiku[11:41:30] <miqlas> do you guys happen to know how can i restart media server from terminal?[11:44:13] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has quit IRC (Quit: andyhuzhill)[11:45:40] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has joined #haiku[11:48:00] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:50:34] <Diver1> miqlas: hey media_server quit[11:50:42] <miqlas> According to the sources, the media preferences window sends the message "resr" to the media server if one clicks on the Restart Media button[11:50:58] <miqlas> maybe i can use hey to send this message[11:51:43] <andreasdr> Good morning. Looks nice miqlas.[11:51:55] <Diver1> launch_roster restart x-vnd.haiku-media_server[11:52:03] *** aikizen <aikizen!~aikizen@146-197-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #haiku[11:53:18] <miqlas> Diver1: seems to be the right way.[11:53:19] <miqlas> thanks[11:54:10] <Diver1> np[11:54:19] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has joined #haiku[11:55:54] <miqlas> let's test it[11:56:41] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:57:37] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has joined #haiku[12:00:11] <miqlas> Diver1: the hey media_server quit worked in my userbootscript.[12:00:21] <miqlas> now audio works ok with hda driver[12:00:54] <miqlas> Idk why, but media_Server starts normally but doesn't produce any audio signal, so i had to restart it manually after every boot[12:00:58] <Diver1> cool[12:01:09] <miqlas> after restarting the media server it works just ok[12:01:15] <Diver1> this should also enable audio in vmware[12:02:03] <miqlas> so 2018 is the year where my main computer is slower than my haiku hacking machine.[12:03:34] <miqlas> i still have to swap the wlan card. the bios is whitelisted, but the original bios was pretty old on the laptop, so i had the chanche to update to an official bios version which doesn't have whitelist. In every newer version it is enabled and no rollback possible.[12:03:36] <miqlas> so i had luck[12:03:41] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[12:03:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[12:04:15] <miqlas> ok, i actually bought a firmware programmer to flash the bios on the hard way, but it isn't required.[12:04:26] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@183.54.208.60> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:04:55] <miqlas> and i have to swap out the clickpad. it is just not my thing and in haiku no right click possible with it[12:05:41] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@host86-166-147-54.range86-166.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[12:06:58] *** HAIKU-irker735 <HAIKU-irker735!~irker@maui.haiku-os.org> has joined #haiku[12:06:58] <HAIKU-irker735> haiku.master: jerome.duval * hrev51885 [1 commit] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=dde876f9f836+%5E6675afbae286[12:06:58] <HAIKU-irker735> dde876f9f836: kernel: pae paging: align *TableEntry() with 64bit paging[12:06:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v HAIKU-irker735[12:08:41] <miqlas> maybe i'll switch to the uefi haiku. have to test it, wich one starts faster[12:09:14] <miqlas> i can expect the uefi one starts faster as no legacy things needs to be initialized[12:11:16] *** aikizen <aikizen!~aikizen@146-197-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:24:13] *** aikizen <aikizen!~aikizen@146-197-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #haiku[12:25:10] *** aikizen <aikizen!~aikizen@146-197-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:26:58] <miqlas> is it possible to click on touchscreen in haiku?[12:39:15] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #4322 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/4322[13:12:51] <Diver1> miqlas: iirc, there was a simple driver somewhere[13:13:11] <miqlas> touch works already, but clicking not[13:13:45] <miqlas> actually touchscreen for laptop is a stupid invention.[13:34:28] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@54.80-203-117.nextgentel.com> has joined #haiku[13:41:21] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@121.99.226.126> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[13:45:55] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:47:13] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[13:48:02] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has joined #haiku[14:06:52] <Begasus> k, mediatomb recipe bumbed ...[14:08:25] <miqlas> Begasus: any news about texlive?[14:08:40] <Begasus> no idea miqlas[14:09:02] <Begasus> wasn't there already a port?[14:11:32] *** fujisan <fujisan!uid4207@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-grqqynkawmwqwvvu> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[14:18:56] <miqlas> Begasus: i meant maybe you could update it.[14:19:39] <Begasus> iirc it is quite a big project :)[14:26:22] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[14:28:46] <miqlas> well...[14:29:01] <miqlas> I can't figure out, hogy can i write a plus symbol.[14:30:59] <Begasus> +[14:31:02] <Begasus> ;)[14:31:28] *** AD_MOS <AD_MOS!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:b09f:5d91:c90a:7fb0> has joined #haiku[14:31:47] <miqlas> Begasus: Danke![14:32:06] <miqlas> Every time when i need one, i will ask you to provide me one.[14:32:20] <miqlas> I need now 2 piece, can you deliver please?[14:33:12] <Begasus> ++[14:33:14] <Begasus> :P[14:34:05] <miqlas> so, i try to learn c++ (Thanks Bega)[14:34:18] <miqlas> Btw, i did found it: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[14:34:31] <miqlas> See, i gave you back.[14:36:14] <Begasus> learnings ascci? (not sure I spelled it right) ;)[14:36:26] <Begasus> learnings/learning*[14:38:04] *** HaikuUser3 <HaikuUser3!~vision@nat-88-212-37-148.antik.sk> has joined #haiku[14:40:37] <miqlas> ascii[14:47:59] *** AD_MOS2 <AD_MOS2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:b09f:5d91:c90a:7fb0> has joined #haiku[14:49:02] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@host86-166-147-54.range86-166.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[14:49:59] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@host86-166-147-54.range86-166.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[14:50:49] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kapix@2a02:a31c:853f:7c00:329c:23ff:fe65:3b5> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:51:06] *** AD_MOS <AD_MOS!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:b09f:5d91:c90a:7fb0> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[15:04:20] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[15:06:17] <Begasus> thought so :)[15:06:59] *** HAIKU-irker735 <HAIKU-irker735!~irker@maui.haiku-os.org> has quit IRC (Quit: transmission timeout)[15:07:32] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has joined #haiku[15:24:50] *** DCatt <DCatt!~vision@pool-71-113-4-47.rcmdva.east.verizon.net> has joined #haiku[15:27:11] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@200116b82afb640016dae9fffe69b4f1.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:29:00] *** fujisan <fujisan!uid4207@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fsziecyjunryamzy> has joined #haiku[15:41:10] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@host86-166-147-54.range86-166.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[15:46:08] <miqlas> just did a minimal desk: https://s9.postimg.cc/3u5vzdtsv/screenshot54.png[15:51:52] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@2001:ee0:4101:4ff4::ad0> has joined #haiku[16:03:36] <DCatt> me confused[16:05:37] <rennj> no deskbar[16:06:09] <rennj> the little panel that by default is located in the upper right corner of the screen.[16:06:14] <DCatt> how can one function without a Deskbar (me wonders)?[16:06:28] <DCatt> oh I know the Deskbar well[16:06:45] <DCatt> I have left it in its default place since the BeOS days[16:06:49] <rennj> terminal cli[16:07:15] <DCatt> oh miqlas is making a server like experience ;-)[16:07:55] <miqlas> one can set the deskbar to autohide itself[16:08:02] <miqlas> it is in the deskbar settings[16:08:13] <rennj> how about no deskbar..just tracker/opentracker[16:08:35] <rennj> open terminal here[16:08:44] <rennj> yeah add-ons[16:08:44] <miqlas> hiding the desktop icons was a bit harder.[16:09:00] <DCatt> oh I love my desktop icons[16:09:00] <miqlas> they arent hidden actually, but behind the workspace switcher[16:09:08] <rennj> hehe[16:09:11] <rennj> cheater[16:09:21] <miqlas> the result is the same, right?[16:09:27] <DCatt> the reason I'm mad at the GNOME kids for taking them away (in the near future)[16:09:28] <miqlas> i need my workspace switcher[16:09:55] <miqlas> DCatt: then switch to Haiku, it isn't even possible to hide them in Haiku :)[16:10:02] <DCatt> of course eOS doesn't support them, but I don't take that OS all that serious[16:10:14] <miqlas> AFAIK... maybe there is an obscure way[16:10:58] <DCatt> wel when R1 hits the stable release and if Web+ is more usable, then making Haiku my go to and using my Mac for more power user type things, I'll make the switch ;-)[16:11:08] <rennj> http://i.imgur.com/oGmsKt4.jpg the way i used beos tracker...[16:11:29] <rennj> drag and drop for bunch of things[16:11:38] <rennj> txt2pdb[16:11:41] <rennj> pdb2txt[16:11:46] <rennj> palmpilot![16:11:55] <DCatt> ah, CDE (running on Solaris)... one of my most favorite DEs of all time[16:12:16] <rennj> https://pasteboard.co/HfGYqG7.png the other day[16:12:38] <DCatt> I also use to dabble with the AmigaOS theme on BeOS[16:13:08] <DCatt> yep, I love CDE[16:13:09] <rennj> https://pasteboard.co/HcfdInM.png retro[16:13:31] <DCatt> I actually have FreeBSD installed on a VM with CDE[16:13:58] <rennj> beos cant keep time anymore..but my old ass amiga vm does[16:14:06] <rennj> beos vm is worthless[16:14:09] *** HaikuUser3 <HaikuUser3!~vision@nat-88-212-37-148.antik.sk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[16:14:13] <DCatt> well Amiga is alive and kicking[16:14:27] <rennj> i bet amiga 3.1 system keeps time[16:14:31] <rennj> 2018[16:14:38] <rennj> i have old systems here[16:14:49] <rennj> my nextstep 3.3 and solaris 2.5.1 need y2k patching[16:14:57] <DCatt> at least the Amiga devs planned for a long future[16:15:15] <DCatt> sad that BeOS stops keeping time beyond 2010[16:15:26] <rennj> no beyond 2017[16:15:31] <rennj> it worked up till 2017[16:15:55] <DCatt> hmmm... my install won't let me set a date beyond 2010 IIRC[16:15:56] <rennj> http://i.imgur.com/1zUE5CF.png beos 16th birthday 4cpu 768MB of ram[16:16:02] <rennj> clean vm[16:16:09] <AlienSoldier2> Beos kept time, the time pref did not. It was possible to change it with terminal if i remember[16:16:19] <rennj> it nolonger keeps time after 2017[16:17:03] <DCatt> surprised no one had a system level patch for it[16:17:09] <rennj> i can bring that vm up right now if i want[16:17:11] <rennj> it busted[16:17:11] <DCatt> maybe the Zeta kids did?[16:17:19] <rennj> dano kernel[16:17:25] <DCatt> ah yes[16:17:26] <rennj> perhaps bone7a ..[16:17:29] <rennj> i didnt test[16:17:30] <DCatt> could be true[16:17:39] <rennj> i have bone7a here i could upgrade it[16:18:08] <DCatt> does anyone have an ISO for Dano?[16:18:23] <rennj> yeah i got tons of iso's i built back in the day[16:18:27] <rennj> offsite storage[16:18:52] <rennj> http://i31.tinypic.com/fc2lpv.jpg stripe beos usb keychain[16:18:52] <DCatt> cool[16:18:59] <rennj> my dual athlon box in like 2004[16:19:11] <rennj> raid0 stripe across 4 usb keychains[16:19:25] <DCatt> awesome stuff[16:20:13] <rennj> yeah that was pinnacle i gues for my system[16:20:27] <miqlas> na, nekem mennem kell.[16:20:29] <miqlas> pás[16:20:50] <miqlas> wrong channel[16:20:51] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[16:20:53] <miqlas> have to go[16:20:54] <miqlas> bye[16:20:55] <DCatt> haha[16:20:59] <DCatt> L8r[16:21:11] *** tombhad-AC <tombhad-AC!~tombhadAC@x4db4af7f.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[16:28:22] <rennj> i pretty can go back to the 80's with dosbox,basiliskII,fs-uae..besides vmware[16:28:50] <rennj> vmware > vbox,xen,qemu[16:29:14] <rennj> vmware vsan,nsx.esxi=software defined data center[16:29:55] <AlienSoldier2> i never quited the 80's[16:30:02] <rennj> its costs for all of the features..someday linux,openswitch,qemu/kvm perhaps[16:30:19] <rennj> old pc gold.iso[16:30:27] <rennj> covers like 1980-1990[16:30:32] <rennj> x86 anyway[16:30:53] <rennj> winblows.dos. and games[16:31:23] <rennj> old win pc gold.iso which i dont have..but looking for is like the next decade[16:31:30] <andreasdr> Nice screenshots!!![16:33:43] <rennj> that athlon box was really compatible[16:33:47] <rennj> 2004 hardware[16:33:51] <rennj> https://pasteboard.co/H28LfMd.jpg amithlon tvcard[16:33:51] <rennj> https://pasteboard.co/H28Fyxr.jpg solaris s10_35 2004 tvcard working[16:34:06] <rennj> solaris,amithlon,beos probably worked on that hardware[16:34:18] <rennj> i think i had matrox g400, sblive, some common nic[16:34:38] <rennj> plus the bt848 or 878 tv card[16:35:10] *** dopplergange <dopplergange!dopplergan@bitcoinshell.mooo.com> has joined #haiku[16:35:14] <krbtgt> i was running BeOS on a P3 500...[16:35:24] <krbtgt> i really want to try Haiku on my dual P2 now[16:36:06] <rennj> yeah someday baremetal[16:36:30] <andreasdr> I used BeOS until 2004 but then I stopped due to some reasons. Was fun! I loved it. Now I have Haiku running on my Rizen based computer.[16:37:02] <rennj> 2004/2005 dead jim![16:37:18] <rennj> patchi usbmass storage for scsi foo[16:37:49] <rennj> zeta and yellowtab was just fracture[16:38:02] <rennj> take a small community and split it up[16:38:26] <rennj> openbeos![16:39:42] <DCatt> I was thinking that it'd be cool to hold a use nothing but Haiku for a month challenge on the birthday month of the project[16:39:42] <DCatt> would be fun (and challenging)[16:39:42] <rennj> you will need remote servers[16:39:42] <rennj> i used beos as daily driver[16:39:57] <rennj> http://oi41.tinypic.com/2iiyat.jpg[16:40:05] <rennj> beos daily driver to all those other boxes[16:40:10] <DCatt> maybe we should inspire up such a challenge this summer[16:40:45] <AlienSoldier2> one of the big newcommer source will be those kid that only ever used phone in their life. Experiencing a workstation will be a revelation for many[16:40:54] <rennj> but nfs server, firewall and stuff was done on freebsd 4.x box[16:41:11] *** ugen <ugen!uid218792@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fpbuireqnumjabce> has joined #haiku[16:41:17] <rennj> my storage server was fbsd box[16:41:46] <DCatt> AlienSoldier2 so true[16:41:48] <AlienSoldier2> duck taped cushion, nerd station confirmed[16:42:14] <rennj> http://i.imgur.com/Uo6Kv.jpg[16:42:25] <rennj> i dumped all the gear[16:42:29] <rennj> for laptop and vmware[16:42:29] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has joined #haiku[16:42:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[16:42:43] <rennj> i made that table[16:43:03] <rennj> 2 tv trays and cedar top i got at yard sale[16:43:03] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@nat-88-212-37-148.antik.sk> has joined #haiku[16:43:43] <rennj> gave it away...[16:43:45] <AlienSoldier2> SGI colors where the best[16:43:47] <DCatt> are those tv trays from IKEA?[16:43:58] <DCatt> I have one exactly them[16:44:01] <DCatt> from IKEA[16:44:08] <rennj> nah walmart junk[16:44:11] <rennj> folding[16:44:11] <DCatt> haha[16:44:17] <rennj> cedar top[16:44:25] <DCatt> looks good[16:44:30] *** qeos <qeos!~qeos@ppp91-79-242-242.pppoe.mtu-net.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:44:36] <rennj> heh thats all long gone[16:44:56] <AlienSoldier2> I still have the computer table i got for my A2000 in 87[16:45:14] <rennj> http://oi41.tinypic.com/2iiyat.jpg to that http://i.imgur.com/Uo6Kv.jpg[16:45:21] * DCatt has to go mow the yard now :-([16:45:23] <rennj> minimize![16:45:36] <rennj> same crappy wall ..with the pealed patch[16:46:31] <rennj> all the shit i own in world fits in back of my car..[16:46:44] <rennj> been hotel living now for 5years..and im done[16:46:55] <rennj> buy some land..and call it quits[16:47:27] <rennj> a3000T amiga unix workstation only amiga box i wanted[16:47:30] <AlienSoldier2> i could not live without land, too usefull for long term project[16:47:32] *** aikizen <aikizen!~aikizen@146-197-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #haiku[16:47:42] <rennj> owe i own 75acres in cada[16:47:46] <rennj> canda[16:47:50] <rennj> canada[16:47:58] <rennj> i tried a decade ago[16:48:03] <AlienSoldier2> ha you still have that then :)[16:48:11] <rennj> 2009 the arrested me at boarder crossing over laptop[16:48:17] <rennj> have not been back[16:48:25] <rennj> apple orchard, 2 old bucket wells[16:48:28] <rennj> stream[16:48:37] <rennj> right off the atlantic ocean[16:49:06] <rennj> now im going to buy 10 or 20 acres here in colorado[16:49:19] <rennj> buy a RV or 5th wheel and chill[16:49:50] <rennj> solar panels and deep cycle batteries[16:49:57] <rennj> build a greenhouse[16:50:20] <rennj> encrypted harddrive[16:50:34] <rennj> have not heard back from canada and they have not returned my property[16:50:56] *** qeos <qeos!~qeos@ppp91-79-242-242.pppoe.mtu-net.ru> has joined #haiku[16:50:59] <AlienSoldier2> returned?[16:51:01] <rennj> i still pay the property taxes[16:51:19] <rennj> border crossing they took my laptop and arrested me, because i did not decrypt[16:51:25] <rennj> $1000 fine[16:51:29] <rennj> 24hours in jail[16:51:36] <AlienSoldier2> wow[16:51:38] <rennj> first time in my life ever in jail or handcuffed[16:51:49] <rennj> i use to do classified work[16:51:55] <rennj> my record is tabla rosa[16:51:57] <rennj> clean[16:52:15] <rennj> NDA...you can rummage in people shit[16:52:24] <rennj> lawyer,doctor,software dev..crossing border[16:53:05] <rennj> that was before ed snowden, before manning...[16:53:16] <rennj> i was using pgp with idea back in the 90's[16:53:34] <rennj> them moved on to fbsd gdbe and linux truecrypt[16:53:42] <AlienSoldier2> i always crossed the border with no problem[16:54:27] <rennj> yeah well 75acres the guy didnt like me owning land..it seemed to me[16:54:33] <rennj> same guy fucked with me twice[16:54:43] <rennj> i know is name..more than just the badge number[16:55:05] <rennj> meh..clearcut it for $$$[16:55:12] <andreasdr> :D[16:55:14] <rennj> apple orchard ...people need smoking wood[16:55:20] <rennj> for smokers[16:55:50] <rennj> six months ...he printed out paper and limited my 1 visit to 30days[16:55:57] <rennj> i had generator and tools in car[16:56:01] <rennj> he fucked me[16:56:26] <rennj> proof of ownership of land..i had my tax paperwork..im allowed to bring tools and shit[16:56:47] <rennj> he was like "no your moving here" and printed off that shit[16:56:59] <rennj> six month no visa needed became 30days[16:57:42] <AlienSoldier2> why did you not just ask for double citizenship?[16:57:43] <rennj> now canada is fucking with me...and only sending tax payerwork in french[16:57:50] <rennj> 2 years running in a row[16:58:19] <rennj> you need to apply for citizenship and be sponsored to work in canada[16:58:23] <rennj> i dont care about that shit[16:58:30] <rennj> i just want my legal limits[16:58:32] <rennj> six months[16:58:36] <rennj> no visa needed[16:58:43] <rennj> for u.s.a.[17:00:04] <rennj> its to cold and the mosquitoes suck most of year anyway.. aug sep oct 3 nice months[17:01:33] <AlienSoldier2> mosquitoes are the good part, black flies that is another thing :P[17:04:18] <rennj> bot flies[17:04:23] *** tombhad-AC <tombhad-AC!~tombhadAC@x4db4af7f.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:04:33] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@nat-88-212-37-148.antik.sk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[17:04:56] <rennj> horseflies[17:11:03] <AlienSoldier2> you just need to see the good side of things, you can feed a trout pond with them :)[17:11:21] *** qeos <qeos!~qeos@ppp91-79-242-242.pppoe.mtu-net.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:11:44] <rennj> principals[17:12:06] <rennj> i know the good side ..75 fucking acres[17:12:20] *** qeos <qeos!~qeos@ppp91-79-242-242.pppoe.mtu-net.ru> has joined #haiku[17:12:22] <rennj> to get away from fucking humanity and that cosmic mistake[17:13:10] <rennj> 4600 books in a lifetime..i have things to do...and am short on time[17:14:58] <AlienSoldier2> i know the feeling, enough with all the circus[17:15:25] <rennj> no wife,kids,pets or debts..free[17:15:39] <rennj> all the human mistake that suck your time[17:15:58] <AlienSoldier2> and chat room :P[17:16:00] <rennj> its been a good run[17:16:07] <rennj> fuck irc[17:16:10] <AlienSoldier2> hehe[17:16:13] <rennj> gone to shit..and you know it[17:16:22] <rennj> the unwashed masses of smartphone users[17:17:16] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@p549624D0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[17:17:19] <rennj> slack,snapchat blah[17:17:43] <rennj> usenet forums, talk/irc...all old ideas[17:17:53] <rennj> finger[17:18:18] <rennj> we got poke...in mid 2000's from fakebook[17:18:31] <rennj> finger/talk/irc/ircii on unix[17:19:11] <AlienSoldier2> i just use a subset of what is "sold" and ignore the rest[17:19:11] <rennj> my nextstep 3.3 vm comes with ircii[17:20:48] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@host-67-44-192-227.hnremote.net> has joined #haiku[17:21:48] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@p549624D0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:21:49] <rennj> i paid for solaris 2.7/7, 8, beos, amithlon, walnut creek cdrom supported fbsd/slackware mid 90's. that is all so far.[17:22:01] *** set__ <set__!~set@108.14.82.18> has joined #haiku[17:22:12] <rennj> i pay the m$ tax on laptops...six of them in 12 years[17:22:17] <AlienSoldier2> the computer that still give me the most fun is my C64[17:23:55] <rennj> oh and i got irix media 6.5.27m which i paid for anyway[17:24:19] <rennj> smart consumer or dumb consumers[17:24:31] <rennj> m$ and crapple and oracle will not get my money[17:24:58] <rennj> neither will amazon,google,fakebook.linkedin,twitter..[17:25:23] <rennj> i buy burner trackfone[17:25:52] <rennj> contact.txt in text file better than list, and i dont use it as computer..[17:26:53] <rennj> openindiana hipster runs pretty well for solaris replacement[17:29:41] *** Diver2 <Diver2!~Adium@broadband-46-242-8-89.moscow.rt.ru> has joined #haiku[17:31:20] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:d95c:376b:dbce:b539> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:35:47] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[17:38:45] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@host86-166-147-54.range86-166.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[17:40:22] *** rmotao <rmotao!~ATOM@unaffiliated/rmotao> has joined #haiku[17:49:08] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[18:01:08] * DCatt mowing now complete[18:01:48] *** rmotao <rmotao!~ATOM@unaffiliated/rmotao> has left #haiku ("Leaving")[18:03:04] <Not-10ef> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/vpY6s[18:03:05] <Not-10ef> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson e26c6c1 - neofetch: bump to 3.4.0.[18:04:07] <AlienSoldier2> mowing is just a long green progress bar :P[18:04:52] <DCatt> haha[18:05:29] <DCatt> most of the grass was fine height wise, but there were patches that were really high, which happens everyyear[18:08:42] <DCatt> anyone here working on some hot killer app for Haiku by chance?[18:15:52] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kapix@2a02:a31c:853f:7c00:329c:23ff:fe65:3b5> has joined #haiku[18:15:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KapiX[18:17:07] <andreasdr> I have a synthesizer and drum machine. Developed it back in beos days and rescued the source from a scratched CD. If you are into music you might be interessted. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQaQvex3Qww[18:17:24] <andreasdr> Or what do you mean with killer app?[18:18:09] <andreasdr> I am additionally working on games currently will port them to Haiku if hardware 3d will arrive. :D[18:18:46] <andreasdr> I would love to create a music recording app. Maybe some other guys would like to join. That would be fun :DDD[18:18:53] <andreasdr> But not yet. No time.[18:19:29] *** vooshy <vooshy!~vooshy@cpc120824-nrwh12-2-0-cust286.4-4.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:20:06] <andreasdr> #scnr[18:26:11] *** BitPuffin <BitPuffin!~isak@c83-248-113-111.bredband.comhem.se> has joined #haiku[18:27:00] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:27:17] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has joined #haiku[18:30:35] <Vidrep_64> Good morning[18:31:42] <DCatt> andreasdr I love music and use to play in various bands years ago[18:32:15] <DCatt> andreasdr you should make a 3Dmix clone ;-)[18:35:13] <DCatt> andreasdr your app looks killer :-)[18:36:02] <andreasdr> Thank you.[18:36:18] <andreasdr> Unfortunatly BeOS died back in 2000. I had to move on.[18:36:29] <DCatt> yep, understandable[18:36:54] <DCatt> you can probably put the blame Microsoft for BeOS' demise[18:37:04] <DCatt> *on Microsoft[18:37:23] <andreasdr> I have plans with it![18:37:31] <andreasdr> Yes.[18:37:39] <rennj> brain dead consumers[18:37:43] <rennj> they dont care[18:37:46] <rennj> same for privacy[18:38:02] <rennj> and the people who do care..must suffer the majority[18:38:13] <DCatt> Scot Hacker nailed it with his last article: http://birdhouse.org/beos/byte/30-bootloader/[18:38:26] <andreasdr> But arent there a lot of apps now available for haiku like QT apps and such?[18:38:31] <andreasdr> There are some killer apps right?[18:38:56] <DCatt> QT integration still needs some work[18:39:06] <DCatt> the slider control is a good example[18:39:31] <andreasdr> Is someone working on it? Is the port public and open source?[18:40:10] <DCatt> hasn't a lot of the QT development come from some really smart coders out of Russia?[18:40:38] <andreasdr> Yes. I read that too. It was done by russian coders.[18:41:05] <DCatt> would like to see GTK also get ported to Haiku though I like other folks here prefer more native app development for Haiku[18:41:21] <DCatt> but would be nice to have the development frameworks in place to port worthy apps over[18:41:30] <DCatt> like GIMP, etc...[18:41:45] <andreasdr> Agree both. Native apps would be nice. But having apps working like GIMP would be nice too.[18:43:15] <DCatt> I think that gateway apps like GIMP, VLC, Blender, Inkscape, Audacity, etc... are necessary for Haiku to get folks on the platform and hopefully woo them with the awesomeness of Haiku itself[18:43:38] <andreasdr> Yes. Blender is a must too!!![18:43:55] <andreasdr> And VLC. Yes. Agree.[18:44:18] <DCatt> I wish we could get Refraction on Haiku but the bounty for it is quite high[18:44:35] <andreasdr> What is it?[18:44:39] <andreasdr> Do not know it.[18:44:44] <andreasdr> Do you have a link?[18:44:45] <DCatt> I think around $10,000[18:44:59] <DCatt> let me look in the forums that was discussing it[18:45:44] <andreasdr> I found it.[18:45:50] <andreasdr> Nice stuff.[18:46:11] <andreasdr> Its a pity, right.[18:46:12] <DCatt> got the link>[18:46:13] <DCatt> ?[18:46:22] <andreasdr> Yes.[18:46:55] <andreasdr> Maybe the author is able to compile it for Haiku later and sell it or something. Would be nice too.[18:47:03] <andreasdr> If Haiku gets a R1.[18:47:10] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@118.15.136.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[18:47:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[18:47:19] <DCatt> yep, would be great[18:47:46] *** rydare <rydare!~rydare@unaffiliated/unheeding> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[18:49:41] *** rydare <rydare!~rydare@unaffiliated/unheeding> has joined #haiku[18:50:14] <andreasdr> I also heard of an open source 3d engine GODOT, which would bring lots of games. This all sounds already nice to me.[18:50:27] <andreasdr> One could maybe easily port openfl for games too.[18:50:43] <andreasdr> But for games hw 3d is pretty mandatory.[18:50:44] <DCatt> how hard would it be to port godot?[18:50:54] <andreasdr> It already has been ported.[18:50:59] <DCatt> oh ok[18:51:00] <andreasdr> I read it somewher in the forums.[18:55:32] <rennj> you picked the wrong kernel[18:55:43] <rennj> and now you going to chase drivers like all the rest[18:56:08] <rennj> wasting time on drivers...[18:59:37] <andreasdr> Me?[18:59:43] <DCatt> kernel?[19:00:56] <andreasdr> I love haiku and I am fine with the fact that they did not end up as another linux distro.[19:01:17] <andreasdr> As far as I can tell of course :)[19:02:04] <DCatt> I'm glad that Haiku is not just another Linux distro as well though I am a fan of GNU/Linux[19:03:13] <andreasdr> Of course. I used linux years too, also in professional environment, but I do not like it that much. I prefer BSD, currently using FreeBSD for development.[19:03:50] <DCatt> I think using the NewOS kernel developed by an ex-Be engineer was a perfect choice, especially if you take into account that he probably made a better kernel that the original BeOS one and Haiku was able to benefit[19:04:17] <andreasdr> Yes. I followed OpenBeOS and NewOS development back in those days. This was exciting too.[19:05:38] <andreasdr> Is any BeOS developer still on haiku board?[19:05:49] <andreasdr> I wonder if this would be legal though.[19:12:27] *** bradsco_mac <bradsco_mac!~brad@c-71-63-126-5.hsd1.va.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:15:52] *** DHowett_ is now known as DHowett[19:20:07] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[19:20:46] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:24:09] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has joined #haiku[19:24:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[19:24:35] <DCatt> clarify on the legal part[19:27:01] <andreasdr> Do you mean me? I am just curious if a Be engineer would be alllowed to work on haiku. Guess they signed a NDA or something.[19:27:34] <DCatt> well unless Access Ltd. had issue with such, I wouldn't see any legal issues with it[19:27:56] <andreasdr> Ok.[19:28:02] <andreasdr> Who is Access Ltd?[19:28:30] <andreasdr> I remember,.[19:28:33] <andreasdr> I remember.[19:29:54] <DCatt> it's funny that Access Ltd. has kept the BeOS trademark active[19:30:23] <andreasdr> Why?[19:31:12] <DCatt> not sure[19:34:51] *** phcoder <phcoder!~phcoder@2a02:120b:2c64:c5e0:265e:beff:fe07:cd66> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:35:08] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[19:40:36] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[19:41:33] *** MrHuggy <MrHuggy!~mrhug@adsl-178-78-88-138.karoo.kcom.com> has joined #haiku[19:45:36] <AlienSoldier2> i wish we could have a player including this codec http://www.smspower.org/Music/InVgm[19:47:07] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[19:49:15] *** bradsco_mac <bradsco_mac!~brad@c-71-63-126-5.hsd1.va.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[20:00:13] <miqlas> guys, how one supposed to build a specific jam target?[20:02:32] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@200116b82afb640016dae9fffe69b4f1.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has joined #haiku[20:12:27] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@118.15.136.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:14:35] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@118.15.136.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[20:14:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[20:15:58] <miqlas> So, i bought a "Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235" wlan card for the new laptop. This card is available in minipcie and ngff form factor. I bought the NGFF one.[20:16:32] <miqlas> Assemlbed, but the intel driver doesnt loaded. I assumed, it is mabye because the PCI ID.[20:16:53] <miqlas> Checking it with lspci it reports: 8086:088f[20:17:31] <miqlas> According to the iprowifi4965 sources the supported one is: 0x8086, 0x088e,[20:17:43] <miqlas> So i added my device to the list and compiled the driver[20:18:30] <miqlas> After blacklisting the official driver and ading my own built one to the non-packages folder-structure with the required symlink it recognized by Haiku after a reboot[20:18:44] <miqlas> But it doesn't see any wlan AP.[20:19:00] <miqlas> Checking the syslog i found this: KERN: [iprowifi4965] (iwn) iwn5000_post_alive: crystal calibration failed, error -2147483637[20:19:08] <miqlas> It seems not good.[20:19:21] <miqlas> Any idea where does this -2147483637 comes from?[20:20:06] <miqlas> after that i see:[20:20:07] <miqlas> KERN: [iprowifi4965] (iwn) iwn_init_locked: could not initialize hardware, error -2147483637[20:22:52] <FreeFull> I'd guess the intel driver needs some changes to work with your hardware[20:23:50] <FreeFull> miqlas: The right thing to do would probably be to port over FreeBSD's networking drivers over to Haiku[20:24:01] <miqlas> FreeFull: thanks.[20:24:21] <FreeFull> It has been done before, but it was long ago[20:24:22] <miqlas> It seems this card needs a newer firmware. Let's see if i can add it.[20:26:10] <miqlas> Are the intel wilan firmwares resides in the source tree or does they get's downloaded from somewhere?[20:26:20] <PulkoMandy> shell trick:[20:26:22] <PulkoMandy> ~> error -2147483637[20:26:23] <PulkoMandy> 0x8000000b: Operation would block[20:26:37] <FreeFull> That's pretty handy[20:26:41] <andreasdr> Thats nice.[20:27:04] <FreeFull> PulkoMandy: Is anyone working on bringing in newer network drivers?[20:27:15] <PulkoMandy> not to my knowledge currently[20:27:57] <FreeFull> Maybe I should look into that. I'll probably have some learning to do, I haven't worked with drivers before[20:28:00] <FreeFull> No promises though[20:28:20] <PulkoMandy> IIRC korli made a FreeBSD11 compat layer for wired drivers[20:28:31] <PulkoMandy> so one can start from that and see what's missing for wireless[20:28:45] <FreeFull> Ah, good to know[20:28:48] *** andreasdr <andreasdr!2e8e8b61@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.142.139.97> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[20:28:50] <FreeFull> So the wired drivers are up to date, at least?[20:29:05] <PulkoMandy> some of them are. I think the ones korli could test[20:29:18] <FreeFull> Right. Gotta have the hardware[20:29:21] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[20:29:37] <FreeFull> I need to test if the newest haiku can boot from USB on my laptop[20:29:51] <FreeFull> It had problems with the USB3 ports in the past[20:30:28] <FreeFull> https://www.haiku-os.org/community/getting-involved/developing/system/ This list of stuff to do looks pretty good[20:30:40] <miqlas> PulkoMandy: any tips about the firmwares? I could try to integrate a newer one i think.[20:31:23] <FreeFull> I guess a good starting point would be looking at FreeBSD's networking code, maybe[20:31:55] <PulkoMandy> FreeFull: landonf can help on the FreeBSD side and has offered to support anyone willing to port their drivers to Haiku[20:32:06] <PulkoMandy> so if you can get in touch with him that may help[20:32:17] <PulkoMandy> miqlas: no, would need to dig into the code to know[20:32:41] <FreeFull> It might be a while until I can actually get started on it, and by then someone else might be working on it[20:33:38] *** phcoder <phcoder!~phcoder@2a02:120b:2c64:c5e0:265e:beff:fe07:cd66> has joined #haiku[20:34:20] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[20:36:55] *** DHowett <DHowett!~dustin@velocitylimitless/awesome/ultraviolet/DHowett> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[20:37:59] <miqlas> ok, the glue code defines the different firmwares[20:38:06] <miqlas> let's see where are they[20:39:12] *** DHowett <DHowett!~dustin@c-76-104-158-30.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[20:39:12] *** DHowett <DHowett!~dustin@c-76-104-158-30.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:39:12] *** DHowett <DHowett!~dustin@velocitylimitless/awesome/ultraviolet/DHowett> has joined #haiku[20:41:08] <PulkoMandy> FreeFull: then you can collaborate :)[20:46:00] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@200116b82afb640016dae9fffe69b4f1.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:51:56] *** phcoder <phcoder!~phcoder@2a02:120b:2c64:c5e0:265e:beff:fe07:cd66> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[20:52:34] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@118.15.136.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:53:34] *** phcoder <phcoder!~phcoder@94.76.198.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has joined #haiku[20:54:22] *** aikizen <aikizen!~aikizen@146-197-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:09:24] *** AD_MOS2 <AD_MOS2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:b09f:5d91:c90a:7fb0> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:09:28] *** aikizen <aikizen!~aikizen@146-197-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #haiku[21:09:46] *** AD_MOS2 <AD_MOS2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:b09f:5d91:c90a:7fb0> has joined #haiku[21:10:38] *** phcoder <phcoder!~phcoder@94.76.198.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[21:12:44] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[21:14:51] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:16:51] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@host18-138-dinamic.13-31.reteivo.com> has joined #haiku[21:16:52] *** AD_MOS2 <AD_MOS2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:b09f:5d91:c90a:7fb0> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:18:42] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@host18-138-dinamic.13-31.reteivo.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:19:02] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@host18-138-dinamic.13-31.reteivo.com> has joined #haiku[21:26:02] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[21:26:41] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@118.15.136.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[21:26:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[21:26:45] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[21:27:44] <miqlas> actually the problem with this wlan card is already reported: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/9263#no1[21:29:15] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[21:30:12] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:31:54] *** phcoder <phcoder!~phcoder@132.62.106.92.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has joined #haiku[21:41:18] <miqlas> It seems Haiku got already the latest firmware for this card[21:41:38] *** AD_MOS2 <AD_MOS2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:b09f:5d91:c90a:7fb0> has joined #haiku[21:45:32] <miqlas> yep, it is the current one[21:52:27] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[21:54:13] *** Dariost_ <Dariost_!~Dariost@host18-138-dinamic.13-31.reteivo.com> has joined #haiku[21:56:25] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:57:23] <miqlas> Well, http://chunk.io/miqlas/c6fffc3849e9458a9c8946de1aa85fc1[21:57:39] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@host18-138-dinamic.13-31.reteivo.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:57:39] *** Dariost_ is now known as Dariost[21:57:58] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[21:58:24] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:59:27] <miqlas> And, btw, it is this card: http://chunk.io/miqlas/0ff0e786c621480aa7b0246df6d22fa9[22:05:02] *** stux16777216Away <stux16777216Away!stux@cosmo.lunarshells.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:05:02] *** stux|work <stux|work!stux@2a01:270:2050:1337::1> has joined #haiku[22:08:46] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[22:09:30] *** HAIKU-irker876 <HAIKU-irker876!~irker@maui.haiku-os.org> has joined #haiku[22:09:30] <HAIKU-irker876> haiku.master: jerome.duval * hrev51886 [2 commits] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=853a76f1f31d+%5Edde876f9f836[22:09:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v HAIKU-irker876[22:09:30] <HAIKU-irker876> e68394b9787c: ar81xxx: sync with FreeBSD 11.1.[22:09:30] <HAIKU-irker876> 853a76f1f31d: vt612x: sync with FreeBSD 11.1.[22:09:55] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[22:14:33] *** BitPuffin <BitPuffin!~isak@c83-248-113-111.bredband.comhem.se> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:23:35] <HAIKU-irker876> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev51887 [1 commit] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1b4fdf606d90+%5E853a76f1f31d[22:23:36] <HAIKU-irker876> 1b4fdf606d90: intel_extreme: fix C++ syntax.[22:41:31] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[22:48:10] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[22:49:26] <miqlas> PulkoMandy: have you got some minutes for me?[22:49:43] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:57:39] <miqlas> So here it is: http://chunk.io/miqlas/1be0670993504772a08d4030f6c6bcaa[22:58:11] *** fujisan <fujisan!uid4207@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fsziecyjunryamzy> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[22:58:28] <miqlas> Oh, just updated it: http://chunk.io/miqlas/4f431e0544be4f668264a3fe48868219[23:01:00] *** korli <korli!506e5252@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.110.82.82> has joined #haiku[23:03:22] <korli> hey miqlas[23:03:31] <miqlas> Hi korli![23:03:33] <Begasus> korli ! :)[23:03:37] <korli> pid is the pci product id in your case[23:03:42] <miqlas> korli saves the day for sure![23:04:06] <miqlas> pci product id? Hmmm.... let's see what lspci says...[23:04:24] <Begasus> going down here, g'night peeps :)[23:04:32] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpimpnmyn7zrhs9e.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[23:05:16] <miqlas> korli: can you spot it? http://chunk.io/miqlas/a2248c28958d4822b03b5bc192382c20[23:09:58] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@118.15.136.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[23:11:29] <korli> Subsystem: Device 6052:8680 should be Subsystem: Device 5260:8086[23:11:34] <korli> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/net/wireless/intel/iwlwifi/pcie/drv.c#L266[23:11:44] *** orealis <orealis!~cre8or@178.51-174-179.customer.lyse.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:12:07] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@161.86.136.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[23:12:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[23:13:04] <korli> then https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/net/wireless/intel/iwlwifi/cfg/6000.c#L230[23:14:08] <korli> firmware name is "iwlwifi-6000g2b-": https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/net/wireless/intel/iwlwifi/cfg/6000.c#L68[23:14:34] <miqlas> yep, thatŰ's right[23:15:46] <miqlas> but i still don't see, how should i change the haiku driver to get the right fw loaded.[23:15:59] <korli> looking[23:16:10] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@67.219.239.116> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:16:38] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@67.219.239.116> has joined #haiku[23:20:45] <korli> miqlas: according to linux, only 0x0082 and 0x0085 should get the iwn6000g2afw firmware[23:21:48] <miqlas> possible, as this NIC needs the 2b[23:22:09] *** orealis <orealis!~cre8or@178.51-174-179.customer.lyse.net> has joined #haiku[23:22:09] <korli> the code should already be OK[23:22:28] <miqlas> but the current code doesnt works as-is for me.[23:23:16] <miqlas> while this works: http://chunk.io/miqlas/939f30dd7d774798a3e580b544827314[23:23:40] <miqlas> notice the commented g2a fw[23:27:15] <korli> you could dprintf the pid[23:27:44] <korli> dprintf("iwn5000_attach pid: %u\n", pid);[23:27:58] <korli> sorry dprintf("iwn5000_attach pid: 0x%x\n", pid);[23:29:37] <miqlas> lemme test it[23:29:59] <miqlas> i tried it earlier but got kdl[23:30:10] <miqlas> hopefully your solution is bullet-proof :)[23:30:58] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@161.86.136.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[23:31:04] <korli> btw from where do you get the reversed subsystem id?[23:31:18] <miqlas> lspci[23:31:56] <miqlas> lspci -vv[23:32:01] <miqlas> reboot[23:32:25] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@161.86.136.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[23:32:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[23:32:59] <korli> weird here it's correct[23:36:09] <miqlas> korli: Retekeger88#[23:36:11] <miqlas> eeeee[23:36:17] <miqlas> wrong[23:36:26] <miqlas> KERN: iwn5000_attach pid: 0x88f[23:37:26] <miqlas> I'm using the driver without my workaround, but with my pciid patch.[23:37:35] <miqlas> No AP visible in the list.[23:38:03] <korli> weird[23:38:03] <miqlas> what?[23:38:08] <miqlas> now i see the APs[23:38:19] <miqlas> what the actual...[23:39:14] <miqlas> let me test it a bit[23:41:51] <miqlas> It seems, you have right.[23:42:07] <miqlas> Only the pciid patch is required.[23:43:35] <miqlas> so it seems the only patch required is: + { 0x8086, 0x088f, "Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6235" },[23:49:41] <korli> sure?[23:51:14] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[23:52:01] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@host86-166-147-54.range86-166.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:54:20] <miqlas> korli: with only this changes: https://review.haiku-os.org/#/c/124/[23:55:05] <miqlas> And the loaded driver is: /boot/system/non-packaged/add-ons/kernel/drivers/dev/net/iprowifi4965[23:55:11] <miqlas> I assume we can say: yes[23:57:57] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@161.86.136.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[23:58:05] <HAIKU-irker876> haiku.master: fredrik.holmqvist * hrev51888 [3 commits] https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=c7fad27a8b0d+%5E1b4fdf606d90[23:58:06] <HAIKU-irker876> 5676dce83c37: memcmp on sizeof(x)==0 bytes fix[23:58:07] <HAIKU-irker876> 29208af8252b: Redundant '('[23:58:08] <HAIKU-irker876> c7fad27a8b0d: Free ci on error[23:59:55] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has joined #haiku[23:59:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh