April 14, 2018 
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Smaller, Faster, Easier. https://miranda-ng.org/)[05:30:39] *** stippi_ <stippi_!~stippi@p4FE6A54E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[05:33:46] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@p4FE6A788.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[06:00:59] *** sIRC_ <sIRC_!~sIRC_@89.107.233.220.static.exetel.com.au> has joined #haiku[07:02:08] *** The_Nozy <The_Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving http://bbsweb.mozysswamp.org or telnet bbs.mozysswamp.org need app goto http://syncterm.net/)[07:02:26] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[07:22:48] *** AD_Anime2 <AD_Anime2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:8474:82e0:d20d:a9b5> has joined #haiku[07:35:04] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpiold42nb1rt6ur.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[07:35:15] <Begasus> g'morning peeps[07:39:16] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[07:40:40] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[07:51:17] *** sIRC_ <sIRC_!~sIRC_@89.107.233.220.static.exetel.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: sIRC_)[07:53:27] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[08:04:32] <johnny_b_> morning Begasus[08:04:52] <King_Warg> some day i shall behold haiku on m68k -o-[08:05:31] <Begas_VBox> morning johnny_b_ King_Warg[08:07:15] *** Diver2 <Diver2!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:cd3c:d465:9a3c:eb4b> has joined #haiku[08:07:24] <King_Warg> :p[08:08:54] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:f9e2:c6a:eb16:f841> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[08:12:16] <jessicah> good morning :)[08:12:41] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[08:12:58] <King_Warg> i'm still trying to figure out how any m68k chip would run it..[08:15:41] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpiold42nb1rt6ur.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[08:25:07] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpioinm9s9ab4598.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[08:25:41] <Begasus> system freeze again ... grabber some serial output: https://pastebin.com/zMG58tjA[08:26:16] <Begasus> not sure if it's Haiku related or running (and compiling) Haiku in VirtualBox ...[08:29:47] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[08:32:21] <jessicah> :o[08:34:12] <PulkoMandy> King_Warg: why would m68k not be up to the task? unusably slow, probably, but it should still run[08:34:30] <PulkoMandy> my Amiga 4000 here has 128MB of RAM, that would be almost enough to boot the desktop[08:36:57] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-178-010-176-132.178.010.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[08:36:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[08:37:51] <King_Warg> lets drop in in my mac LCIII or performa 400[08:38:25] <PulkoMandy> make sure it has an MMU and you should be good to go[08:40:22] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@14.146.126.85> has joined #haiku[08:40:31] <King_Warg> lol[08:44:54] <rennj> new 68080 vampire card[08:46:37] <rennj> www.apollo-accelerators.com[08:47:42] <King_Warg> one thing i have never got my hands on.. anything amiga[08:47:47] <rennj> youtube videos SunOS 4.1.4/NextStep 3.3 on the Xilinx SP605 FPGA board is also pretty cool..[08:47:56] <rennj> https://github.com/mist-devel/mist-board/wiki get 22computer in one[08:48:10] <rennj> that mist fpga is sweet for 8bit/16bit systems[08:50:13] <King_Warg> that would be a lie and not the real metal[08:50:30] <rennj> software > hardware[08:50:32] <King_Warg> i'm sure an amiga will show up at hamvention sooner or later[08:50:48] <King_Warg> just like all these pre ppc apples i has[08:51:00] <rennj> reprogrammable hardware..the software still is king[08:51:42] <King_Warg> and the sacred IIgs "woz" loaded to the teeth with every kind of special enhancement you can think of[08:52:14] <rennj> crapple[08:52:23] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:53:08] *** Begasus_ <Begasus_!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpio647e9xnu1eqn.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[08:53:52] <King_Warg> and maybe a c64[08:55:35] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpioinm9s9ab4598.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[08:56:42] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@181.47.129.119> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[08:57:49] <XeonSqua-> 128M isn't enough for i386 haiku[08:57:50] <XeonSqua-> I tried.[08:57:55] *** XeonSqua- is now known as XeonSquared[08:58:30] <King_Warg> i586 even[08:58:51] * XeonSquared nods[08:59:26] <XeonSquared> needed 384M to do the install on my Pentium II box[08:59:33] <XeonSquared> BeOS copes fine with 128 though[08:59:45] <King_Warg> i think i tried to put it on a dual socket 5 pentium once[09:00:02] <XeonSquared> I have a two-processor P3 box I want to use at some point[09:00:17] <XeonSquared> dunno if Haiku will like the SCSI controller though[09:01:58] <XeonSquared> sounds like a jet engine with all the 15kRPM HDDs and fans[09:02:08] <King_Warg> i have a few of those[09:02:54] <King_Warg> no dual or quad pentium pros tho unfortunately[09:03:05] <XeonSquared> I want to see Haiku on RISC-V tbh, that'd be max comfy.[09:03:27] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[09:03:27] <XeonSquared> I think we'll need to wait till the hardware is more common before that is even vaguely possible though.[09:04:47] <King_Warg> haiku hates tyan boards apparently[09:08:06] <King_Warg> the ones i tried the second cpu was never detected[09:13:11] <XeonSquared> that seems less than ideal[09:17:57] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@14.146.126.85> has quit IRC (Quit: andyhuzhill)[09:19:35] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[09:22:00] *** Begasus_ <Begasus_!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpio647e9xnu1eqn.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[09:23:37] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #haiku[09:27:29] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpime7biuxbqijnc.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[09:38:00] <leorize> anyone have any idea to make Debugger debug a forked child process?[09:42:00] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[09:42:00] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:42:16] <jessicah> so many packages to download... hrev51346 to hrev51880...[09:46:03] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[09:46:36] <humdinger> leorize: I'm not too sure what a forked child is (hobby code dabbler here, it sounds painful), can this help: https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/debugging-a-replicant[09:47:58] <leorize> humdinger: it's basically a process that's created by an another one, say haikuporter when invoked through your shell :)[09:51:55] <leorize> thanks humdinger, looks like just what I need :D[09:52:11] <humdinger> great![09:57:55] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[10:00:22] *** Begasus_ <Begasus_!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpimgcr7yvpczuiv.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[10:01:06] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpime7biuxbqijnc.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[10:01:42] *** tombhad <tombhad!~tombhadac@x4d0e5202.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:04:24] *** tombhadAC <tombhadAC!~tombhadac@x4d0e5202.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[10:06:21] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[10:09:45] <PulkoMandy> leorize: to debug things in a chroot you can use haikuporter -E to enter the chroot of that recipe[10:10:26] <leorize> I believe Debugger is a part of the `haiku` package, right?[10:10:34] <PulkoMandy> I think it is a separate package?[10:10:46] <PulkoMandy> mh, seems not[10:10:52] <PulkoMandy> so yes, part of the standard haiku[10:11:07] <leorize> nice, no recipe modification needed[10:12:23] <humdinger> leorize: when in doubt, check the SYS:PACKAGE attribute of an app, e.g. in DiskProbe[10:12:39] <humdinger> it shows from what package an file comes[10:12:52] *** arroyoc <arroyoc!~Thunderbi@5.224.52.113> has joined #haiku[10:13:07] <jessicah> or catattr[10:13:13] <humdinger> (would be nice to get that info in the GetInfo dialog in Tracker)[10:13:29] <jessicah> (patches welcome?) :p[10:13:47] <humdinger> (with the package being clickable to open in HaikuDepot)[10:13:56] <humdinger> (I know) :)[10:14:03] <jessicah> (more patches welcome??)[10:14:04] <jessicah> :D[10:14:38] <humdinger> I rather grab my bike for a little tour before lunch.[10:14:47] <humdinger> BBQing with the family.[10:14:55] <leorize> can one manually install a built package from cli? I don't really want to jump to QEMU everytime I want to install something I built :P[10:15:05] <humdinger> see you lot later![10:15:11] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-178-010-176-132.178.010.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: Oi, with the poodles at BeGeistert 031: https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/begeistert-031)[10:15:20] <Begasus_> yep leorize, with pkgman[10:15:31] <leorize> hi Begasus_ :)[10:15:37] <Begasus_> hi leorize :)[10:15:38] *** Sri_Designer <Sri_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[10:15:39] <leorize> and how?[10:16:01] <Begasus_> pkgman install <pathtopackage/package>[10:16:19] <leorize> nice, thanks![10:16:26] <Begasus_> :)[10:16:44] <jessicah> hmm, that's a weird crash: instruction pointer not contained in any valid image...[10:16:56] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[10:17:17] <jessicah> maybe I need to rebuild my cross tools[10:18:12] <jessicah> great, Koder doesn't work because of upgraded package :/[10:18:52] <Begasus_> hi jessicah :) (maybe it needs a rebuild?)[10:19:14] <jessicah> and Pe crashes??[10:19:42] <Begasus_> jikes[10:19:50] <jessicah> haha, yes, probably does[10:22:21] <jessicah> doesn't bode well for another release, lol[10:23:21] <jessicah> guess I need to get back in the game :p[10:26:46] <Begasus_> :P[10:27:00] *** Maturion <Maturion!~Maturion@p200300EDE3E5C600BC3DE5C0CD78E563.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[10:29:58] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~Paradoxon@dslb-178-008-107-125.178.008.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[10:32:42] <leorize> any zsh gurus hanging around here?[10:36:17] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has joined #haiku[10:37:43] *** Paradoxon_away <Paradoxon_away!~Paradoxon@dslb-178-008-107-125.178.008.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[10:37:43] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~Paradoxon@dslb-178-008-107-125.178.008.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:37:43] *** Paradoxon_away is now known as Paradoxon[10:37:47] <miqlas> i updated the zsh recipe numerous times[10:38:38] <Begas_VBox> moin miqlas :)[10:38:46] <leorize> hi miqlas[10:38:46] <miqlas> hey[10:39:01] <leorize> do you happen to know how to script zsh?[10:40:06] <miqlas> no[10:41:20] <leorize> I'm writing a small script to migrate users from prev zsh behavior to the new one[10:41:43] <miqlas> prev zsh behavior?[10:41:59] <leorize> I'm fixing zsh to put files at the correct place[10:42:25] <leorize> the current recipe is abusing the global settings file as the user settings file[10:42:31] <leorize> so I'm fixing it up[10:48:28] <miqlas> okay, great[10:52:57] *** Diver2 <Diver2!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:cd3c:d465:9a3c:eb4b> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[10:53:33] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:cd3c:d465:9a3c:eb4b> has joined #haiku[10:54:00] <leorize> I'm really confused with the zsh manual rn[10:55:10] <leorize> they have an example showing how to check if a pattern of files exists, yet it keep producing false results :/[10:56:15] <Paradoxon> oh man first time that i tried projectconcptor over haiku depot...its missing 80% of functionality... how can i see what went wrong during build with the build bot?[11:04:22] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@n106-71-147-167.rdl2.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[11:05:20] <miqlas> Paradoxon, check the buildlog[11:05:52] *** DKnoto_W <DKnoto_W!~DKnoto_W3@public-gprs351197.centertel.pl> has joined #haiku[11:06:31] <Paradoxon> and is there a way to respond to[11:06:34] <Paradoxon> args sorry[11:06:42] <Paradoxon> yes i want but.. where do i find it[11:06:54] <Paradoxon> first line was wrong copy paste[11:07:08] <miqlas> http://kitchen.haiku-os.org/[11:07:20] <Paradoxon> thanks.. that was the link i was missing[11:09:05] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@public-gprs350864.centertel.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:10:47] <Not-10ef> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/vpeJ0[11:10:49] <Not-10ef> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk cb6504c - 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gphoto2: bump to 2.5.15 (#2442)[12:06:52] <Paradoxon> trying to build the new recepie i get License 'Open Tracker License' isn't contained in package![12:06:55] <Paradoxon> any hints?[12:07:02] *** arroyoc <arroyoc!~Thunderbi@5.224.52.113> has quit IRC (Quit: arroyoc)[12:07:23] <leorize> you need a file named 'Open Tracker License' in the 'licenses' folder next to the recipe[12:07:32] <Paradoxon> ahh ok[12:08:24] <Paradoxon> thanks[12:08:51] <Paradoxon> next question to the porter pros :-D[12:09:58] <Paradoxon> i have differnt plugins .. two of them are translators.... (normaly ... the makefiels nows on there onw where to place the bins for a working hpgk) but since haikuporter build it.. they are just placed in the app plugins folder[12:11:46] <Paradoxon> how to i force haikuporter to create the needed translator folder (so that its placed in /boot/system/add-ons/Translators)[12:12:04] <Paradoxon> and put just this two plugins there?[12:16:17] <leorize> put `install -d -m 755 $addOnsDir/Translators` into the `INSTALL()` function[12:16:59] <Paradoxon> what does -d and -m 755 does?[12:17:06] * Paradoxon needs to learn all this stuff :/[12:18:12] <Paradoxon> at the moment it looks like this...[12:18:23] <Paradoxon> cd src/plugins[12:18:24] <Paradoxon> install $(find * -mindepth 2 -type f -executable) $appsDir/$APP/Plugins[12:20:18] <Paradoxon> i just need to move the two translators (ProjectConceptorTranslator and FreemindTranslator ) to $addOnsDir/Translator[12:20:37] <Paradoxon> the other plugins need to be "untouched"[12:21:05] * Paradoxon needs to rework the project structure to have a own translator folder[12:21:12] <leorize> so `-d` means treat the target as a directory[12:21:29] <leorize> `-m` is to set the mode (aka permission) for the file/folder created[12:21:54] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[12:23:00] *** Guest43623 <Guest43623!uid209358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yzvwogmvucvzbauc> has joined #haiku[12:23:13] <Paradoxon> thanks[12:25:21] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:26:52] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[12:28:03] <Paradoxon> hmm pullrequest to haikuportes dont work in webpositive and also not in qupzilla ... any hints?[12:30:29] <Paradoxon> ok will reboot and do it on linux :([12:30:59] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~Paradoxon@dslb-178-008-107-125.178.008.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[12:31:14] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:39:41] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~Paradoxon@dslb-178-008-107-125.178.008.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[12:53:01] <Diver1> Paradoxon: you can use hub cli app[12:59:24] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[12:59:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[13:15:02] <Paradoxon> nice .. moved to beos because i didnt like the command line .. and now i am again all on bash. :([13:16:26] <Paradoxon> but bettern than to switch to linux[13:27:51] *** nedry <nedry!~vision@host109-149-127-61.range109-149.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[13:37:51] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: GeneralDuke)[13:42:41] <Not-10ef> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/vpeIr[13:42:43] <Not-10ef> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson 2a87104 - 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Krita: bump version[15:37:20] *** DCatt <DCatt!~vision@pool-71-113-4-47.rcmdva.east.verizon.net> has joined #haiku[15:58:11] <Paradoxon> Hi jjkola[16:04:31] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[16:12:56] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has joined #haiku[16:12:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[16:16:15] *** fujisan <fujisan!uid4207@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bahdgkxtdnwejale> has joined #haiku[16:23:48] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[16:23:54] <Vidrep_64> Good morning[16:28:59] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kapix@2a02:a31c:853f:7c00:329c:23ff:fe65:3b5> has joined #haiku[16:29:00] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KapiX[16:40:21] *** jjkola <jjkola!~jjkola@85-76-115-182-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[16:43:07] <DCatt> good morning[16:50:53] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:52:23] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[16:54:38] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[17:02:19] *** DCatt <DCatt!~vision@pool-71-113-4-47.rcmdva.east.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[17:13:41] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[17:23:10] *** DKnoto_W <DKnoto_W!~DKnoto_W3@public-gprs353121.centertel.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[17:28:19] *** DKnoto_W <DKnoto_W!~DKnoto_W3@public-gprs354492.centertel.pl> has joined #haiku[17:33:58] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[17:46:50] *** bongozig <bongozig!~bongozig@ool-4a5a4077.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #haiku[17:50:11] *** bongozig_ <bongozig_!~bongozig@ool-4a5a4077.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[17:55:49] *** DKnoto_W2 <DKnoto_W2!~DKnoto_W3@public-gprs351338.centertel.pl> has joined #haiku[17:58:57] *** DKnoto_W <DKnoto_W!~DKnoto_W3@public-gprs354492.centertel.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:22:54] *** nedry <nedry!~vision@host109-149-127-61.range109-149.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[18:25:36] *** AD_MOS2 <AD_MOS2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:8474:82e0:d20d:a9b5> has joined #haiku[18:25:57] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~Paradoxon@dslb-178-008-107-125.178.008.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:27:43] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@87-102-105-145.static.kcom.net.uk> has joined #haiku[18:28:50] *** AD_Anime2 <AD_Anime2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:8474:82e0:d20d:a9b5> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:36:00] *** DKnoto_W2 <DKnoto_W2!~DKnoto_W3@public-gprs351338.centertel.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:36:33] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@public-gprs351338.centertel.pl> has joined #haiku[18:50:06] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A28F40.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[18:52:30] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-178-010-176-132.178.010.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[18:52:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[19:01:13] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A28F40.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: euver)[19:11:05] <Vidrep_64> Hi humdinger[19:11:19] <humdinger> ho Vidrep_64[19:11:24] <Vidrep_64> BBQ today?[19:11:55] <humdinger> yep![19:12:07] <Vidrep_64> What are we having? :)[19:12:12] <bradsco_mac> Ahhh but what kind of BBQ?[19:12:30] <humdinger> had lots of veggies[19:12:37] <humdinger> plus bratwurst[19:12:40] <humdinger> + steak[19:12:45] <bradsco_mac> Very nice[19:12:54] <humdinger> and some nice shrimps as teaser[19:13:15] <Vidrep_64> I kinda figured bratwurst would be on the menu, being a German BBQ and all[19:13:18] <humdinger> plus some weißbier, so you can imagine how I'm draped over the sofa now...[19:13:26] <humdinger> :)[19:15:52] <Vidrep_64> We're finally getting some weather that looks like spring. Hopefully we can BBQ soon too[19:16:46] <Vidrep_64> There's still 0.5m of snow on the ground. So, it'll be a couple more weeks yet[19:16:47] <humdinger> Huzzah for spring![19:22:16] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@71-34-159-145.clsp.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:22:19] *** rennj_ <rennj_!~rennj@71-34-159-145.clsp.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[19:27:55] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~Paradoxon@dslb-178-008-107-125.178.008.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[19:29:06] <humdinger> hey Paradoxon[19:30:16] *** rennj_ is now known as rennj[19:31:47] <Vidrep_64> humdinger, when do we consider Tipster ready for another release?[19:31:58] <Vidrep_64> More translations?[19:32:52] <humdinger> yes. we're waiting on the Spanish tips file of .... er.... unspacecar[19:32:57] <Vidrep_64> Are they tracked on PolyGlot or in HaikuArchives?[19:33:02] <humdinger> never get the nick right...[19:33:12] <humdinger> HaikuArchives.[19:33:13] <Vidrep_64> spacecar LOL[19:34:04] <Vidrep_64> My chuckle for the day :)[19:34:28] <humdinger> If anyone wants to add more tips translations for Tipster: https://github.com/HaikuArchives/Tipster/issues/25[19:42:54] <Paradoxon> hey humdinger :)[19:43:30] <humdinger> Paradoxon: got the catkeys sorted or shall I lend a hand?[19:43:54] <Paradoxon> i have the catkeys ready...[19:44:21] <Paradoxon> but i am not shure how to transfert them to Polyglot or how this tool is named :-D[19:44:34] <humdinger> go to https://i18n.kacperkasper.pl/projects/14[19:44:40] <humdinger> you already got an account.[19:44:59] <humdinger> under "edit" of each component of your app you can upload the catkeys.[19:45:18] <humdinger> make sure you upload the right catkeys... :)[19:46:43] <humdinger> (the en.catkeys, of course)[19:50:37] <Paradoxon> i am to stupid .. i cant see the edit...[19:51:17] <humdinger> in blue, after e.g. "Application"[19:51:19] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@200116b82a30fb0016dae9fffe69b4f1.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has joined #haiku[19:51:23] <humdinger> or "GraphEditor"[19:51:26] <humdinger> etc.[19:51:44] <Paradoxon> dont have it .. at least in webpostive[19:52:12] <humdinger> you're in the ProjectConceptor project? https://i18n.kacperkasper.pl/projects/14[19:53:07] <humdinger> maybe log out and log in again. I just changed your permissions an hour ago or so[19:53:36] <Paradoxon> yes[19:53:43] <Paradoxon> ok i will try later...[19:53:48] <Paradoxon> first i need to feed my kids[19:54:51] <humdinger> kids... always food, food, food... :)[19:55:08] <Paradoxon> ... but today.. i fixed the typos, the build for x86 and the recepie.. (since the old only produced a broken version of projectconceptor)[19:55:30] <humdinger> progress![19:55:36] <Paradoxon> and prepared everything for building and installing translators for projectconceptor..[19:55:39] <Paradoxon> :-D[19:55:46] <Paradoxon> finally[19:59:34] *** [r4] <[r4]!~r4]@staticline-31-183-174-254.toya.net.pl> has joined #haiku[20:02:25] <Paradoxon> humdinger .. just short question... cli apps should they also be translated?[20:02:36] <Paradoxon> asking because auf xmlbmessage[20:04:25] *** ugen <ugen!uid218792@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bpoyypeubojamnjk> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[20:07:12] <humdinger> Paradoxon: the Haiku apps generally aren't.[20:07:27] <Paradoxon> ok...[20:07:33] <humdinger> The argument could be made that the help and usage output could be translated,[20:07:38] <humdinger> but not normal output.[20:07:48] <humdinger> for scriptability[20:08:30] <humdinger> OTOH, if you're remotely logged into a system on e.g. arabic locale, things will be iteresting it you enter "xmlbmessage --help" :)[20:15:24] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~Paradoxon@dslb-178-008-107-125.178.008.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[20:20:35] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!~dario@181.47.129.119> has joined #haiku[20:21:10] <Vidrep_64> humdinger, hey it's spacecar :)[20:21:24] <_Dario_> hello Vidrep_64[20:21:38] <Vidrep_64> _Dario_, you have a new nick[20:21:59] <_Dario_> what do you mean?[20:22:20] <humdinger> _Dario_: I mangled your name... :)[20:22:54] <humdinger> I know it starts with "un", then something with "spac" and something at the end...[20:23:01] <_Dario_> oh! I get it[20:23:12] <Vidrep_64> I like the new nick...it's kinda catchy[20:23:16] <_Dario_> do you refer to my username in Github[20:23:23] <humdinger> yes[20:23:24] <_Dario_> and in the forums[20:23:28] <_Dario_> it's un_spacyar[20:23:45] <humdinger> close enough... :)[20:24:11] <_Dario_> no problem! :-)[20:24:44] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e363250.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[20:25:06] <humdinger> he ho Lelldorin1[20:25:25] <_Dario_> I guess I must change my username to something less obscure, but I'm used to it.[20:25:26] <Lelldorin1> hi humdinger[20:26:04] <humdinger> not for me _Dario_. I usually can copy and paste it from somewhere. :)[20:26:13] <_Dario_> lol[20:28:16] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[20:29:33] *** Vidrep_gcc2h <Vidrep_gcc2h!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[20:30:38] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Is the SoftwareUpdater fixed for good now?[20:30:52] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Seems to be working OK since yesterday'[20:33:30] <humdinger> the HaikuPorts repo seems to have air to breathe again.[20:33:43] <humdinger> so, yes, until there's the next hickup :)[20:34:17] <humdinger> would be cool to have distributed repos.[20:35:51] <Vidrep_gcc2h> I haven't heard much about GSOC. Any news?[20:36:23] <humdinger> I think 23rd of April is the official announcement[20:36:42] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[20:37:14] <humdinger> peeping Begas_VBox![20:39:19] <Begas_VBox> hi humdinger :)[20:42:07] <Lelldorin1> hi Begas_VBox[20:43:43] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Hi Begas_VBox[20:43:45] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:45:06] *** Vidrep_gcc2h <Vidrep_gcc2h!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[20:49:12] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpip2ix9akelm0ax.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[20:50:21] <Begasus> this is getting annoying :/ (system freezes when running haikuporter) and just now when building in Terminal (VirtualBox)[20:52:00] <humdinger> downgrade to when it used to work?[20:52:40] <humdinger> did a checkfs?[20:53:08] <Begasus> it has always been a problem here, maybe my hardware isn't just up to the job :)[20:53:36] *** Begas_VBox <Begas_VBox!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[20:53:54] <humdinger> freezers are stupid. nothing in the syslog etc, right?[20:54:17] <Begasus> launched chrome now instead of FF, hope it improves a bit[20:54:52] <Begasus> posted some serial output this morning, but not sure it provides anything usefull ...[20:55:41] <humdinger> obviously, I wouldn't know... :)[20:55:53] <Begasus> np ;)[20:58:30] *** aikizen <aikizen!~aikizen@146-197-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #haiku[21:00:49] <Begas_VBox> mediatomb still fails to build (I suspect something with the changes in ffmpeg) ..[21:03:55] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e363250.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[21:04:54] *** Vidrep_gcc2h <Vidrep_gcc2h!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[21:06:47] <Begasus> hi Vidrep_gcc2h :)[21:23:11] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~Paradoxon@dslb-178-008-107-125.178.008.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[21:27:08] *** nzimmermann <nzimmermann!~nzimmerma@ip-109-90-134-28.hsi11.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[21:27:12] <nzimmermann> good evening[21:27:16] <nzimmermann> miqlas, yt? :-)[21:28:10] <nzimmermann> I'm investigating #13980 (building Haiku on Haiku is broken), which currently makes it impossible to compile Haiku for me..... I tracked it down to a change in the latest fontconfig 2.16 recipe, which you added on 15th March[21:28:34] <humdinger> hi nzimmermann![21:28:39] <nzimmermann> s/2.16/2.12.6/[21:28:43] <nzimmermann> hi humdinger :-)[21:28:50] <humdinger> but the building under Haiku has been broken since last year[21:30:09] <nzimmermann> humdinger, for the same reason?[21:30:43] <humdinger> I think so[21:32:59] <nzimmermann> wrong information due to --depth limit when using git clone[21:33:00] <nzimmermann> just a second[21:33:35] <nzimmermann> Sep, 22. 2017 added by korli[21:34:37] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Since when has building Haiku under Haiku been broken?[21:34:40] <humdinger> maybe that's it then after all[21:34:53] <humdinger> Vidrep_gcc2h: at least since last Decembre[21:35:04] <jessicah> haiku builds on haiku for me[21:35:13] <Vidrep_gcc2h> 64 bit building has never worked. But x86_gcc2h always worked for me[21:35:20] <Begas_VBox> never build haiku in haiku here, so wouldn't know[21:35:24] <jessicah> I ran full build last night[21:35:27] <nzimmermann> on 9th August 2016, the symlink change was introduced[21:35:39] <nzimmermann> with the introduction of fontconfig 2.12.1[21:35:47] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Hi jessicah[21:35:49] <jessicah> however I compile cross tools for x86_64[21:36:15] <jessicah> you can't build 64 bit without cross tools[21:36:17] <nzimmermann> jessicah, I can not build at all on Haiku x86_gcc2 build[21:36:38] <jessicah> I haven't tried that one yet[21:36:39] <humdinger> nzimmermann: it did work before (after 9th August 2016) so that's probably not it either.[21:36:56] <nzimmermann> humdinger, ok[21:37:09] <Vidrep_gcc2h> I have a very old ticket about 64 bit cross tools not building. Not sure if it's still a valid ticket[21:37:14] <nzimmermann> humdinger, i only concluded, if the symlinks would be valid, it would continue to compile[21:37:17] <humdinger> As I wrote, I suspect https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=hrev51719 to be the issue[21:37:53] <humdinger> you could downgrade/revert to before that and try again.[21:38:08] <nzimmermann> humdinger, ah yes, I remember, I wanted to ask you exactly about that hrev,[21:38:24] <humdinger> old waddlesplash has been dragging his flippers... :)[21:38:32] <nzimmermann> you find it by bisect - but do you have any clue what'st the relation to the symlink issue in the fc package?[21:39:12] <humdinger> I'm clueless most of the time...[21:39:15] <Vidrep_gcc2h> https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/10284[21:39:16] <humdinger> no exception here[21:39:36] <nzimmermann> :-)[21:39:43] <nzimmermann> I will revert this patch 699b4... and try[21:40:16] <waddlesplash> nzimmermann: uhh if that is a libroot code patch don't revert it[21:40:26] <waddlesplash> the build will break even further[21:40:39] <Vidrep_gcc2h> "Moving non-x86 related tickets out of R1 milestone." - Maybe this needs to be moved back, since 64 bit is now official[21:40:50] <waddlesplash> nzimmermann: I have an okay idea of what the problem might be but I haven't had time to investigate deeply[21:41:22] <nzimmermann> hehe, it is a libroot patch[21:42:17] <nzimmermann> I just reverted, and ran git clean -xfd to start from scratch with a fresh 'generated' directory, let's see[21:46:34] <waddlesplash> uhh[21:46:37] <waddlesplash> I told you[21:46:40] <waddlesplash> it will break[21:47:01] <waddlesplash> nzimmermann: I don't know why you're wasting your time on trying that[21:47:38] <waddlesplash> the problem does lie in that patch[21:47:40] *** aikizen <aikizen!~aikizen@146-197-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:48:00] <waddlesplash> however before that patch, things were even more broken, it's that the patch was incomplete apparently[21:52:13] <nzimmermann> aha okay[21:52:36] <nzimmermann> waddlesplash: I was under the impression that building on Haiku was the preferred way to develop Haiku :-)[21:53:22] <waddlesplash> it usually is[21:54:37] <nzimmermann> waddlesplash, can you give me a bit of extra information regarding that patch, and what was more broken before etc... out of curiosity[21:55:18] <waddlesplash> well, before January, we used the system libroot on haiku[21:55:48] <waddlesplash> this was problematic because it meant every time we changed libroot internal ABI the Haiku on Haiku build would break[21:56:05] <waddlesplash> so I reworked libroot_build to also be used on Haiku[21:56:18] <waddlesplash> but that meant that the attributes layer had to also be transitioned[21:56:43] <waddlesplash> and so I had to write a passthrough layer between libroot_build fsattr and native fsattr[21:57:30] <waddlesplash> as you can guess, that layer is pretty nuanced and so I've had to make various fixes since the original version[21:57:41] <waddlesplash> and I'm pretty sure this is just another one of those[22:02:20] <nzimmermann> aha, thanks a lot for the information, I didn't realize you were the author of that patch :-)[22:05:02] <nzimmermann> I could have guessed from your mail adress, but obviously didn't...[22:05:13] <nzimmermann> I'll be patient, until you find some time to check that issue in depth :-)[22:18:24] <Not-10ef> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/vpe0A[22:18:26] <Not-10ef> [haikuports/haikuports] Paradoxianer e253667 - ProjectConceptor: fixed building of the plugins, add debuginfo. 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