April 13, 2018 
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April 13, 2018 [00:13:12] *** return0e_ <return0e_!~return0xe@150.237.117.101> has joined #haiku[00:14:01] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kapix@2a02:a31c:853f:7c00:329c:23ff:fe65:3b5> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:24:57] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[00:25:35] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.48.48.151> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[00:26:28] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:26:40] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.20.202.150> has joined #haiku[00:27:06] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has joined #haiku[00:27:52] *** Vidrep_gcc2h <Vidrep_gcc2h!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[00:28:28] <Vidrep_gcc2h> I just did a pull request for a couple of recipes. I need some feedback[00:28:48] <Vidrep_gcc2h> It seems both recipes are in one pull request. Not sure how that happened[00:29:05] <Vidrep_gcc2h> ...or is that normal?[00:29:19] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Diver1?[00:32:50] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[00:32:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[00:36:08] *** DCatt <DCatt!~vision@pool-71-113-4-47.rcmdva.east.verizon.net> has joined #haiku[00:37:38] *** DCatt <DCatt!~vision@pool-71-113-4-47.rcmdva.east.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:38:57] *** DCatt <DCatt!~vision@pool-71-113-4-47.rcmdva.east.verizon.net> has joined #haiku[00:47:35] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!~vision@67.219.239.116> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-090423]: i've been blurred!)[00:49:02] *** nzimmermann <nzimmermann!~nzimmerma@ip-109-90-134-28.hsi11.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[00:49:08] *** return0xe_ <return0xe_!~return0xe@150.237.117.101> has joined #haiku[00:49:37] *** pycube <pycube!d05d8076@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.93.128.118> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[00:52:19] *** return0e_ <return0e_!~return0xe@150.237.117.101> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:52:20] *** return0xe_ <return0xe_!~return0xe@150.237.117.101> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:57:14] *** return0e_ <return0e_!~return0xe@150.237.117.101> has joined #haiku[00:57:19] *** LaceySnr <LaceySnr!~LaceySnr@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[01:00:21] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.20.202.150> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 263 seconds)[01:01:38] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.20.194.96> has joined #haiku[01:01:49] *** nedry <nedry!~vision@host109-149-127-61.range109-149.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[01:02:01] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@67.219.239.116> has joined #haiku[01:13:41] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@200116b82a58050016dae9fffe69b4f1.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:19:39] <bradsco_mac> Is it possible to use Jam to build specific subdirectories of the haiku source?[01:21:03] <jessicah> you can cd into a subdir and run jam in it[01:21:28] <jessicah> this only works for the default generated folder, though[01:21:41] <bradsco_mac> But the complete source has to be present right?[01:21:53] <jessicah> probably[01:22:31] <jessicah> jam might work with only a sub-tree, as each dir has a jamfile[01:22:53] <jessicah> as long as you have the build/jam subtree[01:23:05] <jessicah> can't say I've tried :)[01:23:47] <bradsco_mac> Gotcha. I’m tinkering with some of the graphics drivers. I have some rare-ish hardware that isn’t supported and I want to see if I can make it work.[01:24:55] <jessicah> :)[01:28:12] <bradsco_mac> Really what I’m saying is I want to be lazy and not write a makefile :P[01:43:34] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.20.194.96> has quit IRC (Quit: Dariost)[01:43:38] *** fujisan <fujisan!uid4207@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vbihowntzfzpumvq> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[01:44:38] *** swift110 <swift110!~swift110@unaffiliated/swift110> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:46:45] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@27.67.192.146> has joined #haiku[01:48:17] *** pisculichi <pisculichi!~pisculich@shell.bshellz.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[01:48:17] *** pisculichi <pisculichi!~pisculich@unaffiliated/pisculichi> has joined #haiku[02:00:05] *** Vidrep_gcc2h <Vidrep_gcc2h!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[02:12:01] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@c-24-62-235-244.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[02:12:33] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@c-24-62-235-244.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:21:19] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1396 of haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/1396[02:33:08] *** Guest43623 <Guest43623!uid209358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vuwzbdfvdgzonzxo> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[02:41:20] *** cmkat <cmkat!~cosmogato@181.141.128.125> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[02:44:34] <jessicah> bradsco_mac: you can just use jam <target-name>[02:44:58] <jessicah> jam -q intel_extreme intel_extreme.accelerant[02:45:11] <jessicah> for example, _should_ build the intel gfx driver[02:47:20] <jessicah> and accelerant[02:48:56] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@67.219.239.116> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-090423]: i've been 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quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:07:01] <bradsco_mac> jessicah: thanks I will do just that[06:13:06] *** AD_Anime2 <AD_Anime2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:c8cd:be59:cc41:e5a8> has joined #haiku[06:15:46] *** ohnx_ <ohnx_!ohnx@2001:19f0:5001:1e6:5420:ff:fe61:5ac0> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:16:14] *** AD_MOS2 <AD_MOS2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:7513:fd0f:9e2a:7b4c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[06:20:10] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[06:22:09] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has joined #haiku[06:28:20] *** LaceySnr <LaceySnr!~LaceySnr@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[06:46:01] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@27.67.192.146> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.1)[06:55:13] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has joined #haiku[07:08:43] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~Paradoxon@dslb-178-008-109-228.178.008.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[07:25:45] <cmkat> hello there you know what can i do to get the gdb working on x64?[07:28:57] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:29:55] <korli> cmkat: no, fix it?[07:31:13] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-178-010-182-206.178.010.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[07:31:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[07:31:13] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[07:34:45] <cmkat> korli dont have what happen with the haiku porter version but it is marked as broken on x64[07:36:09] <korli> cmkat: it was never ported there[07:36:29] <cmkat> oh[07:36:32] <cmkat> ok[07:37:17] <cmkat> korli then is no so useful qt creator without a debugger supported[07:38:11] <korli> cmkat: if this needs gdb, not with debugger support[07:39:12] <cmkat> is there any way to support the haiku debugger?[07:39:31] <cmkat> ok now i will try with kdevelop again korli[07:40:18] <korli> dunno qt creator really[07:40:30] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@67.44.192.165> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:40:46] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:40:59] <cmkat> what do you use korli[07:41:00] <cmkat> ?[07:42:16] <cmkat> wanna configure a ide to write, compile and debug some test[07:42:35] <korli> qtcreator requires GDB 7.5 minimum, we have only 6.3 working on x86[07:42:52] <korli> I use Debugger the native debugger[07:43:05] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[07:51:47] <cmkat> when i install kdevelop it just crash calligra.. :3 korli[07:52:03] <cmkat> then the bug seems like still in there[07:52:35] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~Paradoxon@dslb-178-008-109-228.178.008.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[07:53:21] <korli> cmkat: unfortunate :)[07:59:19] <cmkat> korli :) yeah, lol[07:59:47] <cmkat> i am just learning about qt things[08:00:07] *** trn <trn!jhj@prone.ws> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[08:00:09] <cmkat> should wait for the fixe for kdevelop[08:07:04] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[08:09:32] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-092-252-085-074.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[08:09:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[08:10:12] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@27.67.217.34> has joined #haiku[08:10:22] *** trn <trn!jhj@prone.ws> has joined #haiku[08:15:35] *** ohnx_ <ohnx_!ohnx@2001:19f0:5001:1e6:5420:ff:fe61:5ac0> has joined #haiku[08:19:07] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #haiku[08:36:55] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:46:38] *** swerner 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nzimmermann <nzimmermann!~nzimmerma@priv-1b-5-169.physik.rwth-aachen.de> has joined #haiku[09:34:12] <nzimmermann> good morning[09:40:32] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:42:01] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #haiku[09:42:04] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:44:46] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #haiku[09:46:11] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:49:18] *** siel <siel!~siel@unaffiliated/motley> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[09:58:10] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!b2086de4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.8.109.228> has joined #haiku[09:58:34] <cmkat> hi nzimmermann[09:59:45] *** nzimmermann 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on haiku, and then got hit by a BFS corruption[11:26:37] <nzimmermann> ?????????? ? ? ? ? ? develop[11:27:11] <nzimmermann> /boot/system/develop is no longer accessible, which is ... well unfortunate ;-)[11:30:07] <nzimmermann> now "ls" in a terminal stopped working[11:30:08] <nzimmermann> runtime_loader: Cannot open file libroot.so: No such file or directory[11:30:14] <nzimmermann> I'll reboot, brb[11:30:28] *** nzimmermann <nzimmermann!~nzimmerma@priv-1b-5-169.physik.rwth-aachen.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[11:31:27] *** sIRC_ <sIRC_!~sIRC_@89.107.233.220.static.exetel.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: sIRC_)[11:31:47] *** nzimmermann <nzimmermann!~nzimmerma@priv-1b-5-169.physik.rwth-aachen.de> has joined #haiku[11:31:54] <nzimmermann> recovered[11:46:46] <Not-10ef> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/vxh0n[11:46:47] <Not-10ef> [haikuports/haikuports] nikolaszimmermann b849820 - tbb: Add support for x86 builds 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...[17:35:47] <matthewstar> i have write to Access co ltd ...[17:35:52] <humdinger> at this stage I don't think it'll do us much good.[17:36:08] <matthewstar> they have beos source ...[17:36:19] <matthewstar> humdinger: ok[17:36:49] <matthewstar> only say : it stop the science ...[17:37:16] <matthewstar> beos is not mine ...[17:38:46] <matthewstar> true till 1999[17:38:49] <matthewstar> =)[17:40:02] <matthewstar> be is soul : you cannot sell your soul ... ;)[17:40:51] <humdinger> but you can re-implement is as open source, apparently.[17:40:58] <humdinger> I take Haiku over BeOS any day.[17:41:25] <matthewstar> humdinger: yes, you can rewrite ...[17:42:01] <matthewstar> humdinger: better but you can also study beos source and do better ...[17:43:22] <humdinger> If this was 2005, I'd agree.[17:44:01] <humdinger> Now, we'd just exchange Haiku's bugs for Be's bugs. :)[17:44:05] <matthewstar> humdinger: i apologize , what @ 2005?[17:44:25] <humdinger> back then Haiku was a lot less mature.[17:44:35] <humdinger> much less code[17:44:42] <matthewstar> we can do a code wiyhout bugs[17:44:53] <humdinger> that would be a first...[17:45:24] <matthewstar> bugs is errors ...[17:45:54] <matthewstar> errors in developing source code ...[17:46:40] <bradsco_mac> Humdinger, any chance you know if RudolfC’s old nVidia 3D driver source is available anywhere?[17:47:45] <humdinger> bradsco_mac: was there such a thing?[17:48:20] <bradsco_mac> Yep. Back in the BeOS days he wrote some basic 3d drivers for early nvidia cards.[17:49:07] <humdinger> guess I've repressed that memory...[17:49:08] <matthewstar> we can ask for holy source ...[17:49:10] <bradsco_mac> I’ve recently pulled my two old systems out and I have the Be OpenGL beta stuff, along with his[17:49:41] <humdinger> you could try contacting "rudolfc" from the web forums.[17:49:54] <humdinger> though he's been MIA for some time now...[17:50:24] <bradsco_mac> Yep. He’s got commits in the Haiku repo too I believe[17:50:36] <matthewstar> we can ask for holy source ... i will pray the[17:50:58] <matthewstar> we can ask for holy source ... i will pray the holy spirit =)[17:51:47] <humdinger> bradsco_mac: yep. had a burst of activity 2 years ago.[17:52:53] <matthewstar> axeld: peace :)[17:58:29] <matthewstar> here is a sunny day...[17:59:53] <matthewstar> is there haiku's news sites?[18:00:15] <bradsco_mac> humdinger: I’ll see if I can get some info[18:04:48] <humdinger> bradsco_mac: good luck. :)[18:11:05] <Not-10ef> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/vxjLF[18:11:06] <Not-10ef> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson 144fd35 - libgpg_error: bump to 1.29, add debuginfo. PROVIDES += cmd:yat2m (#2444)[18:25:34] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kapix@2a02:a31c:853f:7c00:329c:23ff:fe65:3b5> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:25:38] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:27:15] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has joined #haiku[18:28:03] *** matthewstar <matthewstar!022c402a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.44.64.42> has left #haiku[18:30:54] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-178-010-182-206.178.010.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:48:51] <miqlas> matthewstar: rudolfc nvidia code is in haiku manline, yu don't have to ask rudolfc.[18:48:57] <miqlas> *mainline[18:55:18] *** The_Nozy <The_Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[18:56:21] *** nedry <nedry!~vision@host109-149-127-61.range109-149.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[18:57:57] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[19:01:38] *** nedry <nedry!~vision@host109-149-127-61.range109-149.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[19:06:55] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-178-010-182-206.178.010.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[19:06:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[19:08:28] <humdinger> miqlas: that was bradsco_mac asking. Also, are you sure? 3D support in trunk?[19:09:13] <miqlas> afaik yes.[19:09:30] <miqlas> rudolfc have cmmit right[19:09:44] <miqlas> he actualy made some commits in the last Q[19:10:08] <humdinger> I know. but it was 2016 :)[19:10:12] <humdinger> time flies...[19:10:50] <miqlas> the haiku nv driver is acually from rudolfc[19:11:17] <humdinger> I know. I just wasn't aware of 3d support[19:11:25] <miqlas> see the sources: Rudolf Cornelissen 9/2003-2/2005.[19:11:43] <humdinger> I really do know.[19:11:46] <bradsco_mac> Yep the driver is there, but are the hooks for it in the GL library[19:12:11] <miqlas> or: Rudolf Cornelissen 9/2002-1/2016[19:13:15] <miqlas> humdinger: in my professional work i need absolut good memory.[19:13:41] <miqlas> and... i still have.[19:15:07] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@unaffiliated/cenbe> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:16:01] <miqlas> ti megdugnátok egy metallica fant?[19:16:45] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@cpe-184-58-196-239.wi.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[19:16:45] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@cpe-184-58-196-239.wi.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[19:16:45] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@unaffiliated/cenbe> has joined #haiku[19:22:32] <andreasdr> 3D OpenGL would be nice. Wasnt there a post on Haiku boards about funding?[19:22:36] <andreasdr> HW[19:23:19] <humdinger> well... the forums are full of people with "ideas"...[19:23:57] <humdinger> when I say "full", I mean a hand full... :)[19:24:22] <bradsco_mac> Hasn’t it been proposed as a summer of code goal before?[19:25:04] <humdinger> yes. but the student failed.[19:25:16] <humdinger> not least, because his mentor disappeared...[19:25:28] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@lns-bzn-36-82-251-21-187.adsl.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[19:25:28] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@lns-bzn-36-82-251-21-187.adsl.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[19:25:28] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has joined #haiku[19:27:36] <bradsco_mac> Well thanks to jessicah I just got a build environment working for drivers.[19:28:06] <bradsco_mac> I’m going to attempt a driver for an old kyro based card since it’s not natively supported.[19:28:46] <humdinger> never even heard of kyro...[19:28:54] <humdinger> pyramid related?[19:29:04] <humdinger> :)[19:29:28] <bradsco_mac> Hehe.. It’s a PowerVR chip circa 2001[19:30:37] <bradsco_mac> There’s some linux driver source I should be able to reference[19:30:39] <humdinger> oh. I dimly remember it sporting some technology that for a brief moment was the future of graphics.[19:30:40] <andreasdr> bradsco_mac: yes.[19:31:10] <andreasdr> bradsco_mac: But the student failed due to mentor disappearing and not telling the other mentors, or something like this.[19:31:13] <bradsco_mac> yeah their internal pipeline was a bit different from other chips at the time… a tile based renderer[19:31:34] <bradsco_mac> or rasterizer[19:31:41] <humdinger> right.[19:31:53] <humdinger> the tech sounded more exciting back then.[19:32:09] <humdinger> today it's just more cores or render units[19:32:31] <humdinger> not that I understand much of that or am interested.[19:32:42] <humdinger> nothing for us Haiku users anyway...[19:32:51] <humdinger> VESA, baby![19:34:08] <bradsco_mac> Oh I’m living that dream right now.. hah![19:42:32] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e363250.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[20:00:26] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[20:00:37] <Vidrep_64> Hi[20:00:49] <humdinger> hullo[20:00:56] <Vidrep_64> Hey humdinger[20:01:44] <Vidrep_64> PulkoMandy, just finished building webkit with latest changes. Works better on some problematic websites.[20:01:53] <Vidrep_64> Progress...[20:01:57] <PulkoMandy> great :)[20:02:24] <Vidrep_64> Still no back button, which is a bit of a pain[20:02:31] *** fujisan <fujisan!uid4207@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-majguteaxjwjzaan> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[20:03:12] <miqlas> Vidrep_64: backspace?[20:03:27] <PulkoMandy> yes, I will fix these things when I'm done with merging changes[20:03:28] <humdinger> Vidrep_64: I guess ALT+lfet-cursor doesn't work either?[20:03:34] <PulkoMandy> the next run will also break favicons[20:04:00] <PulkoMandy> it's probably not just the button, but the whole back/forward history[20:04:27] <humdinger> PulkoMandy: where are you at now? already in summer 2017 or still spring? :)[20:08:01] <Vidrep_64> Older Safari browser has issues with same websites. We're probably not going to see big improvements until we're almost current.[20:08:33] <andreasdr> Vidrep_64: Nice![20:08:38] <Vidrep_64> Some websites I tried are loading very quickly[20:08:50] <andreasdr> I am looking forward to test this.[20:08:51] <Vidrep_64> Some still hang[20:08:54] <andreasdr> Damn :([20:09:22] <Vidrep_64> Patience...[20:09:54] <Vidrep_64> humdinger, sorry I left you and fbrosson a mess...again[20:10:12] <Vidrep_64> Git is not my friend :)[20:10:25] <humdinger> nah. it's no problem.[20:10:30] <humdinger> fbrosson will sort it out. :)[20:10:40] <Vidrep_64> Passing the buck[20:11:51] <humdinger> once you master feature branches, you're all set. :)[20:14:18] <Vidrep_64> Oh sure[20:14:25] <Vidrep_64> Easy to say[20:15:08] <Vidrep_64> PulkoMandy, no scrollbar on pages either[20:15:21] <Vidrep_64> I guess you're already aware of that[20:17:01] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e363250.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[20:17:06] <Vidrep_64> humdinger, the gphoto2 recipe is tested on both x86 and x86_64. Builds and works either way[20:17:17] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@200116b82a4db70016dae9fffe69b4f1.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has joined #haiku[20:17:49] <humdinger> Vidrep_64: yeah, just Tipster has to wait a bit longer.[20:18:13] <Vidrep_64> I was aware of that. The description says (WIP)[20:18:40] <humdinger> it just slipped into the PR :)[20:18:55] <Vidrep_64> No sha256, and a few more translations needed[20:19:09] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@67.44.192.165> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[20:19:15] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kapix@2a02:a31c:853f:7c00:329c:23ff:fe65:3b5> has joined #haiku[20:19:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KapiX[20:19:52] <Vidrep_64> That's my good deed for the day. Now off to run errands for the "boss"[20:20:07] <humdinger> Vidrep_64: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/wiki/DevelopmentModel has all that's needed for feature branches under "How do I use feature-branches?"[20:20:22] <humdinger> just do points 1-4 when you work on a recipe[20:20:26] <Vidrep_64> Oh yeah :)[20:21:53] <Vidrep_64> I remember when Duggan was trying out Git. He wasn't so enamoured either[20:22:14] <humdinger> yeah, but that was Duggan... :P[20:22:15] <Vidrep_64> That's probably why he went AWOL[20:22:31] <humdinger> git fried his brain[20:23:44] <Vidrep_64> There was some other Git app that PulkoMandy recommended to use. I remember using it once[20:24:36] <humdinger> hub? also cli though.[20:25:10] <Vidrep_64> Maybe[20:25:20] <Vidrep_64> Gotta go[20:25:21] <KapiX> that's a really nice image, was that you humdinger? ;)[20:25:25] <humdinger> easier to fork and create PRs[20:25:34] <Vidrep_64> later[20:25:39] <humdinger> cu Vidrep_64[20:25:44] <humdinger> KapiX: the tree?[20:25:47] <KapiX> yes[20:25:52] <humdinger> nope, that was a GCI student.[20:25:59] <humdinger> forgot who...[20:27:02] <humdinger> Vidrep_64: yeah, just look at the nice tree picture and git loses all mystery... :P[20:36:46] <Vidrep_64> Just heading out the door, and thought I'd have a quick look[20:37:10] <bradsco_mac> system directory is read-only? is there a way around that?[20:37:23] <Vidrep_64> Oh great...a tree. may as well be a spider web :)[20:38:45] <PulkoMandy> bradsco_mac: system/non-packaged is writable and already in the paths for most things[20:39:06] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@67.44.192.165> has joined #haiku[20:39:11] <PulkoMandy> system/ is made from hpkg files, which are not extracted on install but mounted. So you can only change it by adding/removing packages[20:40:51] <bbjimmy> ok, I updated the system and still no ssh command, I added openssh from haikudepot and now have an ssh command, but I cannot connect with a haiku computer ... ssh: connect to host 127.0.0.1 port 22: Connection refused ... what now?[20:41:32] <bradsco_mac> PulkoMandy: I’m trying to replace a graphics driver[20:41:50] <PulkoMandy> bbjimmy: you need to create the sshd user, IIRC[20:42:13] <PulkoMandy> bradsco_mac: you can blacklist the existing one and copy the new one in non-packaged/[20:42:13] <bbjimmy> not just a sysytem user?[20:43:11] <PulkoMandy> bbjimmy: no, the daemon wants to run as the "sshd" user (this is software from openbsd, things work a little different than usual in haiku)[20:43:43] <bbjimmy> so I make a user named sshd?[20:43:45] <PulkoMandy> I guess the openssh package could create the user on install however[20:43:52] <PulkoMandy> yes, just "useradd sshd" in terminal[20:44:16] <bbjimmy> ok, I'll try that.[20:44:30] <PulkoMandy> then you should see "/boot/system/bin/sshd -D" in running processes[20:44:52] <bbjimmy> Error: User "sshd" already exists.[20:45:08] <PulkoMandy> ok, so that's not the problem[20:46:28] <bbjimmy> sshd is not running[20:47:11] <bbjimmy> it is enabled in the network services pannel[20:47:12] <humdinger> bbjimmy: is it enabled in the networking prefs?[20:47:16] <humdinger> ok :)[20:50:06] <bbjimmy> after manually launching sshd I seem to be able to connect.[20:50:36] <humdinger> sweet success![20:51:12] <bbjimmy> Shoulden't the Network prefs , or launch daemon launch the daemon[20:51:14] <bradsco_mac> PulkoMandy: do I need to create an accelerants folder in non-packaged?[20:51:41] <humdinger> bbjimmy: sounds reasonable...[20:52:01] <humdinger> bradsco_mac: it all should mirror the system hiearchy[20:52:19] <bbjimmy> maybe openssh needs to be indtalled on boot for this to happen?[20:52:27] <bradsco_mac> Got it. Here goes the reboot :P[20:52:37] <bbjimmy> rebooting to test this.[20:52:47] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@67.44.192.165> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[20:55:15] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@67.44.192.165> has joined #haiku[20:55:49] <bbjimmy> yes, one must reboot after adding openssh for the launch daemon to work with sshd[20:57:19] <humdinger> openssh should be in the nightly and release images... I know it's in my Haiku here.[21:00:05] <bbjimmy> I don't know what happened, although I have been updating this system fow quite a while, maybe openssh was moved out of the haiku package at some point.[21:00:27] <bbjimmy> now I get -sh: /boot/system/boot/SetupEnvironment: Permission denied when I log in.[21:01:50] <bbjimmy> it seems that only user can read this file and I am not logging in as user.[21:01:52] <humdinger> I never tried to connect to my Haiku machine. Always just from it to remote boxes...[21:02:24] *** andreasdr <andreasdr!58826b29@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.130.107.41> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:02:30] <bbjimmy> I run several websites on a haiku box.[21:03:44] <bbjimmy> lets me run a yab based database for my student attendance.[21:04:31] <bbjimmy> I have been using telnet that I can turn on and off via beshare, but ssh is more secure.[21:14:26] <bbjimmy> sshd stays running even is it is disabled in the network.[21:16:29] <humdinger> ticket time[21:16:40] <bbjimmy> yup[21:26:59] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@77.79.212.94> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[21:28:04] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@67.44.192.165> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[21:31:34] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-178-010-182-206.178.010.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[21:44:24] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@public-gprs350950.centertel.pl> has joined #haiku[21:44:51] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.48.50.219> has joined #haiku[21:48:21] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.48.50.219> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:48:41] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.48.50.219> has joined #haiku[21:56:25] *** abx1_ <abx1_!uid103467@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pixkyaovqbyrqqtq> has joined #haiku[22:03:33] *** ClaudioM <ClaudioM!~ClaudioM@168.221.158.55> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[22:10:56] *** lorglas__ <lorglas__!~lorglas@pD9E1D9D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[22:19:38] *** Anarchos <Anarchos!~s@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[22:21:00] <Anarchos> what is the simplest way to install haiku 64bits on a USB key from a PC running haiku 32 bits ?[22:25:30] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@67.44.192.165> has joined #haiku[22:28:04] <miqlas> boot from usb -> install - > ??? -> profi.[22:28:07] <miqlas> *profit[22:28:40] <Anarchos> miqlas how to install the usb ? anyboot iso or raw image ?[22:28:55] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@public-gprs350950.centertel.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[22:28:57] <miqlas> have you got linux or osx?[22:29:25] <miqlas> or haiku?[22:29:54] <bbjimmy> https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/14086[22:29:57] <miqlas> i assume you already go haiku 32 bit, then download the lates nightly anyboot, dd the image to your usb, reboot[22:30:01] <Anarchos> miqlas i run on haiku32bits[22:30:18] <Anarchos> ok the anyboot. but what is the use for the raw image ?[22:30:47] <bbjimmy> https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/14085[22:31:45] <miqlas> raw is maybe for vm, i'm not sure, i don1t care.[22:32:18] <bbjimmy> I use the raw image to install to a usb stick running from qemu. this way I can install to the whole stick, not just a limited partition.[22:33:00] <bbjimmy> the raw image can be booted at times when an anyboot image cannot[22:33:25] <Anarchos> may i use the installer 32 bits to install the usb key with 64 anyboot image ? I mean about the "makebootable" and so on....[22:33:50] <bbjimmy> no.[22:34:18] <Anarchos> bbjimmy so you advise me to dd the raw image ?[22:34:25] <miqlas> Anarchos, NOPE.[22:34:27] <miqlas> USE dd.[22:34:56] <bbjimmy> or boot the raw image in a vm and install from the vm to a disk.[22:36:51] <Anarchos> bbjimmy why use qemu when i run haiku32 bits natively ????[22:39:01] <miqlas> it.is.just.an.option.[22:40:01] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[22:40:15] <bbjimmy> yup, hust an option.[22:40:27] <bbjimmy> *just[22:43:51] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.48.50.219> has quit IRC (Quit: Dariost)[22:44:04] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@public-gprs350864.centertel.pl> has joined #haiku[22:44:29] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.48.50.219> has joined #haiku[22:45:49] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[22:47:09] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[22:48:24] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.48.50.219> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:48:40] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.48.50.219> has joined #haiku[22:54:01] *** Anarchos <Anarchos!~s@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[22:55:27] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[22:55:58] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kapix@2a02:a31c:853f:7c00:329c:23ff:fe65:3b5> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:59:40] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e363250.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[23:00:08] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[23:00:13] *** HaikuUser is now known as Anarchos[23:00:59] <Anarchos> bbjimmy I dd the anyboot iso. It boots at first attempt :)[23:01:19] <Lelldorin1> hi all[23:01:56] <bbjimmy> but you are limited to the size of the image, not e whole usb stick.[23:02:12] <bbjimmy> *the[23:02:38] <bbjimmy> hi Lelldorin1[23:03:16] <Anarchos> bbjimmy no trouble, i just wanted to launch "recover" in 64 bits address space[23:03:34] <bbjimmy> OK[23:03:51] <Anarchos> when i have booted, may i disconnect the usb key ?[23:04:54] <bbjimmy> If you booted off the key, only if you want it to crash badly.[23:05:29] <bbjimmy> It's loke removing your boot harddisk while the systm is running.[23:05:32] <Anarchos> bbjimmy ok. I thought it was not used anymore since the led of the key doesn't blink[23:05:34] <bbjimmy> *like[23:05:39] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:07:49] <miqlas> i formatted my bootdisk once in running haiku. it was interesting.[23:07:55] <miqlas> it survived 5 minutes[23:08:09] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-092-252-085-074.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[23:08:18] <Anarchos> miqlas until it needs to fetch al ib ?[23:08:20] <Anarchos> a lib ?[23:08:23] <miqlas> then it went completly dead[23:08:36] <miqlas> Anarchos, i have no idea what do you want[23:09:01] <Anarchos> miqlas i just wonder why it crashes .[23:09:21] <miqlas> cause it doesn't store everything in ram, tha's why[23:09:27] <miqlas> that's why[23:09:34] <Anarchos> miqlas but if you disable VM ?[23:09:46] <miqlas> then?[23:10:26] <Anarchos> miqlas i am just curisous to know exactly what made it crash :)[23:10:27] <miqlas> what will happen then? what is VM? why do we use VM? make your study and you will see.[23:11:19] <miqlas> and yes, i know what virtual memory is.[23:11:57] <miqlas> but i suppose you don't. So read a bit about it and if it is still not clear, ask.[23:14:09] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[23:14:57] <miqlas> or if you like adventures, test your ideas, but my oppinion is: yust don't ask everything. read about it, experment with it, analyze the results, and make an own oppinion. Only own research helps you understand things, nothing else.[23:15:43] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@67.219.239.116> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:16:12] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@67.219.239.116> has joined #haiku[23:16:17] <miqlas> i did my own research and if you ask me i think the warm spring weather made it crash.[23:16:36] <Anarchos> miqlas no need to be so rude. I was just curious about your experience.[23:17:04] <miqlas> i'm not rude.[23:17:23] <bbjimmy> It was the ice in the Arctic.[23:17:28] <miqlas> point please where i was rude, i'm interested.[23:17:48] <miqlas> bbjimmy, maybe, i have to redo my test in winter.[23:17:58] <bbjimmy> :)[23:19:28] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.121.202.13.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[23:20:03] <miqlas> Anarchos, it is interesting, as it is a text based chat, it is not well situated to transfer feelings. I'm not a firend of emoticons and stuff. But why do you think i'm rude? You had a question about something what you can easily test. you have usb haiku bootdisk. remove it, see what happens. disable your vm, test it again.[23:20:08] <miqlas> analyze it[23:20:12] <miqlas> read about it[23:20:57] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has joined #haiku[23:21:19] <miqlas> but do not expect expanation, because it brings nothing for me. i maybe explain things really detailed, and you will say maybe : lol, ok.[23:22:22] <miqlas> why should i even try? Nope, you have everything to test your ideas, do it then.[23:22:42] <miqlas> and i'm still no rude[23:22:49] <miqlas> i think[23:23:33] <bbjimmy> We allways think we arent rude and the other guy is. just saying.[23:23:43] *** lorglas__ <lorglas__!~lorglas@pD9E1D9D8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:24:47] <Anarchos> miqlas i can't test it for now cause «recover» is running, but sure i will test at next boot.[23:25:42] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e363250.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[23:26:00] <Anarchos> miqlas i am the kind of guy who asks a lot to peopple who already did the experience, but i can reproduce it myself, though i don't understand every details. Anyway i am a very curious guy, and i feel happy whaen people share their experiences.[23:26:01] <bbjimmy> Typing on a computer never makes for clear communication. People take things the wrong way and say things that are easy to take wrong.[23:28:54] <miqlas> Anarchos, i'm the opposite kind then. I don't like to ask. I don't like to get partial infos. I go and try to dig as deep as i can. I don't care about when somebody ask something, but i get nervous why they asking so much. They could just test their ideas? Why they still wait to input from somebody else? Are they lazy, have they fear? What the culprit? Still no idea, and this is what disturbs me.[23:31:24] <Anarchos> miqlas ok sorry. I won't disturb here anymore.[23:32:15] <miqlas> wtf?[23:32:26] <miqlas> why takes you everything so personally?[23:32:55] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:41:06] <bradsco_mac> Because different people are different. Words written one way aren’t always read the same way.[23:42:50] <jessicah> bradsco_mac: did you figure out how to load driver?[23:43:53] <bradsco_mac> jessicah: I’ve got to change my approach. Essentially I renamed and modified the vesa driver, then blacklisted the installed version, but haiku doesn’t like to look for it in non-packaged[23:44:39] <jessicah> I can't remember what I did when was working on radeon driver...[23:45:01] <jessicah> hmm, that needs to get fixed then...[23:45:24] <bradsco_mac> I’ve added a PCI radeon for primary output, so that should help[23:47:23] <bradsco_mac> And yes, your advice to build worked perfectly thank you[23:49:04] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p200300C65BE92900E55C88553EC2803F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[23:54:12] *** The_Nozy <The_Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving http://bbsweb.mozysswamp.org or telnet bbs.mozysswamp.org need app goto http://syncterm.net/)[23:55:56] <jessicah> :)