April 12, 2018 
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April 12, 2018 [00:03:01] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@200116b82a5c1a0016dae9fffe69b4f1.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:04:33] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:05:06] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #haiku[00:09:27] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:09:55] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.38.109.66> has quit IRC (Quit: Dariost)[00:10:38] *** Dariost_ <Dariost_!~Dariost@151.20.215.116> has joined #haiku[00:11:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o puckipedia[00:20:20] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #haiku[00:28:31] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:28:57] *** swerner 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blurred!)[01:43:57] *** HAIKU-irker162 <HAIKU-irker162!~irker@maui.haiku-os.org> has joined #haiku[01:43:57] <HAIKU-irker162> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev51878 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=70422d06a9d9+%5Edf4bea7d7c9f[01:43:57] <HAIKU-irker162> 70422d06a9d9: ipv6: avoid unbounded stack usage in send_fragments().[01:43:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v HAIKU-irker162[01:44:27] <HAIKU-irker162> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev51879 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=48c1ae929e6e+%5E70422d06a9d9[01:44:27] <HAIKU-irker162> 48c1ae929e6e: libroot: avoid excessive stack usage in __find_directory()[01:45:54] <HAIKU-irker162> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev51880 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4b588b36ad55+%5E48c1ae929e6e[01:45:55] <HAIKU-irker162> 4b588b36ad55: virtio_scsi: avoid unbounded stack usage in ExecuteRequest().[01:51:31] *** ugen <ugen!uid218792@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cjxtfdiurdxbjyya> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[02:05:13] *** LaceySnr <LaceySnr!~LaceySnr@pa49-183-89-174.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #haiku[02:07:57] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #4317 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/4317 blamelist: J?r?me Duval <jerome.duval at gmail dot com>[02:30:43] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1403 of haiku-nightlies-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed jam @nightly-raw build <repository>Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86_64/builds/1403[02:42:34] *** andreasdr <andreasdr!59f74b63@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.247.75.99> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:42:57] *** GregC <GregC!~Manboy@c-68-34-68-27.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[02:45:27] *** GregCrain <GregCrain!~Manboy@c-68-34-68-27.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:48:24] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1395 of haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed upload nightlies] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/1395[02:51:03] *** GregC_ <GregC_!~Mutter@c-68-34-68-27.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[02:55:02] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@87-102-105-145.static.kcom.net.uk> has joined #haiku[03:00:30] *** swift110 <swift110!~swift110@unaffiliated/swift110> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[03:02:35] *** GregC_ <GregC_!~Mutter@c-68-34-68-27.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:08:15] *** GregC_ <GregC_!~Mutter@c-68-34-68-27.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[03:11:19] *** GregC_ <GregC_!~Mutter@c-68-34-68-27.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:20:46] *** aikizen <aikizen!~aikizen@146-197-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[03:21:16] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@71-34-159-145.clsp.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:21:17] 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HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@c-68-46-165-187.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[04:17:35] *** HaikuUser is now known as SMCollins[04:17:42] *** LaceySnr <LaceySnr!~LaceySnr@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[04:21:01] <SMCollins> Is anyone paying attention to the fact the network performance has degraded massively[04:22:07] *** SMCollins <SMCollins!~vision@c-68-46-165-187.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:31:49] *** Cld <Cld!~Cld@clacks.share-it-yourself.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[04:45:58] *** HAIKU-irker162 <HAIKU-irker162!~irker@maui.haiku-os.org> has quit IRC (Quit: transmission timeout)[04:51:39] *** swift110 <swift110!~swift110@unaffiliated/swift110> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:52:17] *** King_Warg1 <King_Warg1!~Wildman@50.110.127.103> has joined #haiku[04:52:32] <rennj> unicode might needs some work or is it a font issue http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/UTF-8-demo.txt[04:52:54] <rennj> styleedit does better than terminal[04:53:01] <rennj> but not much...[04:53:23] *** King_Warg <King_Warg!~Wildman@184-15-18-200.dr01.chtn.wv.frontiernet.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[05:08:57] *** siel <siel!~siel@unaffiliated/motley> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[05:09:18] *** siel <siel!~siel@unaffiliated/motley> has joined #haiku[05:28:58] *** LaceySnr <LaceySnr!~LaceySnr@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:31:39] *** stippi_ <stippi_!~stippi@p4FE6A415.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[05:34:27] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@p4FE6AAC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[05:54:34] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@27.67.217.10> has joined #haiku[05:57:38] <jessicah> rennj: huh, nice, that's a really good test page :)[05:57:57] <jessicah> rennj: we currently don't have font substitution, which will probably be needed for some things[05:58:43] <jessicah> some of that doesn't render correctly in PuTTY here either[05:58:47] <rennj> its combo issue i have with fonts/xterm and fonts/urxvt...[05:58:50] <jessicah> particularly the math stuff[05:59:18] <rennj> https://pasteboard.co/HfYZlSU.png[05:59:36] *** LaceySnr <LaceySnr!~LaceySnr@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[05:59:40] <rennj> solaris 11.3 renders it proper...my xterm with proper font does...and urxvt does with proper font[05:59:43] <jessicah> unicode support in general should be fine, I fixed a few bugs that we had there[06:00:28] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@27.67.217.10> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[06:00:40] <jessicah> rennj: is the one on the right haiku?[06:00:43] <rennj> bitstream dejavu was the one i used for long time[06:00:54] <rennj> unison font ...i suppose down the line[06:01:02] <rennj> nah thats linux[06:01:09] <rennj> 2013 xterm vs latest urxvt[06:01:14] <rennj> its font choice[06:01:15] <krbtgt> Swiss721BT or death[06:01:18] <jessicah> ah, cause the RHS looks pretty broken[06:01:22] <jessicah> krbtgt: haha :p[06:02:22] <rennj> https://pasteboard.co/HgdteBD.png[06:02:25] <rennj> solaris 11.3[06:02:47] <rennj> openindiana font is not as nice either[06:04:15] <jessicah> but at least it renders correctly[06:04:33] <jessicah> I haven't used haiku in so long[06:06:38] <rennj> does more in 500MB than some os do in 6GB[06:07:08] <rennj> fight the bloat[06:07:25] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@27.67.196.242> has joined #haiku[06:10:17] <jessicah> also what I love about Haiku[06:19:31] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@67.44.192.104> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:30:25] *** valerius <valerius!~valerius@2a01:4f8:d16:2052::2> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net)[06:39:27] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has joined #haiku[06:41:34] *** valerius <valerius!~valerius@2a01:4f8:d16:2052::2> has joined #haiku[06:41:34] *** valerius <valerius!~valerius@2a01:4f8:d16:2052::2> has quit 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<daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has joined #haiku[09:05:46] *** ignacio <ignacio!ignacio@fedora/sugar/ignacio> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:06:27] *** ignacio <ignacio!ignacio@sunjammer.sugarlabs.org> has joined #haiku[09:06:28] *** ignacio <ignacio!ignacio@sunjammer.sugarlabs.org> has quit IRC (Changing host)[09:06:28] *** ignacio <ignacio!ignacio@fedora/sugar/ignacio> has joined #haiku[09:06:55] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@139.47.137.186> has joined #haiku[09:08:33] *** aikizen <aikizen!~aikizen@146-197-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #haiku[09:16:33] <King_Warg1> so apparently trying to update a nightly from 2014 to current was a bad idea.[09:22:40] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@200116b82a58050016dae9fffe69b4f1.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has joined #haiku[09:23:34] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:23:55] *** swerner 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<King_Warg1!~Wildman@50.110.127.103> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[13:49:09] <andreasdr> Hi[13:50:59] <nzimmermann> does korli hang out here? :-)[13:51:10] <nzimmermann> korli, yt?[13:56:10] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@27.67.199.84> has joined #haiku[14:05:29] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@139.47.137.186> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[14:24:35] <jessicah> nzimmermann: sometimes, but often not for very long[14:26:27] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.48.156.41> has quit IRC (Quit: Dariost)[14:27:37] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@139.47.137.186> has joined #haiku[14:29:35] *** Cld <Cld!~Cld@clacks.share-it-yourself.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:31:20] *** ClaudioM <ClaudioM!~ClaudioM@168.221.158.55> has joined #haiku[14:35:59] *** andreasdr <andreasdr!59f74191@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.247.65.145> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[14:45:34] *** geoid <geoid!~geoid@193.132.54.2> has joined #haiku[14:46:46] *** bongozig <bongozig!~bongozig@ool-4a5a4077.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #haiku[14:49:50] *** andreasdr <andreasdr!59f74191@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.247.65.145> has joined #haiku[14:53:10] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@139.47.137.186> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[14:53:26] <nzimmermann> jessicah: thanks for the information, nice to meet you too :-)[14:54:17] <nzimmermann> I finally managed to nail down my system instability issue (random reboots after a few minutes) and filed #14082[14:54:39] *** andreasdr <andreasdr!59f74191@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.247.65.145> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[14:55:26] <nzimmermann> I thought this might interesst you, as I saw you also experienced "random binary crashes" (ticket #10279) - for me switching of PAE paging cures not only my random reboots issue, but also the random binary crashes[14:55:39] *** andreasdr <andreasdr!59f74191@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.247.65.145> has joined #haiku[14:56:22] <andreasdr> Hi my haiku installation is not booting anymore. It just does not continue after disk icon. Any ideas? Is it maybe doing a file system check?[14:57:22] <andreasdr> I tried to look what it does by enabling on screen kernel debugging messages but then I get KDL because a spin lock takes to long.[14:58:13] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@139.47.137.186> has joined #haiku[14:58:51] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@139.47.137.186> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:00:32] *** sdhand <sdhand!~sam@unaffiliated/kyubiko> has left #haiku ("Leaving")[15:02:50] <jessicah> andreasdr: no idea, but you can use the boot menu to boot previous state[15:03:42] <andreasdr> I tried. Did not work. I will try again.[15:03:49] <andreasdr> Thank you[15:07:49] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FE6A415.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[15:07:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[15:11:26] <jessicah> also, hihi :) sorry, working on jam stuff[15:12:53] <nzimmermann> np :-)\[15:13:50] <andreasdr> When I am booting from UEFI stick it now tells me that it can not find a boot partition. I have no idea how to fix this haiku installation :([15:15:57] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@125.33.159.226> has joined #haiku[15:16:29] <jessicah> can you not boot with MBR image on usb stick?[15:16:45] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@125.33.159.226> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:17:04] <andreasdr> This is not working on Rizen CPU based computers I was told.[15:17:13] <andreasdr> I am on Rizen.[15:17:17] <jessicah> ah, I dunno[15:17:29] <jessicah> I only use Intel chips nowadays[15:17:42] <jessicah> I had a bad experience with AMD... never again :p[15:18:42] <jessicah> graphics cards are good though[15:19:12] <jessicah> there is a bug in UEFI loader, where it might not show all bootable partitions[15:19:36] <jessicah> ran into this on my macbook pro, which I haven't gotten around to fixing just yet[15:19:55] <andreasdr> No worries. Then I will need to wait until someone fixed it.[15:20:08] <jessicah> you can probably at the very least recover files you need by using a linux usb disk, and mounting bfs read-only[15:20:09] <andreasdr> Well this Rizen CPU was cheap and has lots of horse power :D[15:20:41] <andreasdr> Ah good point to save this settings I had. Only 2 files.[15:21:12] <andreasdr> U have put the source I was working with In a repository. So. No worries.[15:21:14] <jessicah> I'll get to the bootloader bug soon enough, have a reasonable idea of what it might be[15:21:24] <andreasdr> Nice!!![15:21:56] <jessicah> still need to fix intel gfx on the macbook pro though :([15:22:00] <jessicah> stupid apple hardware[15:22:02] <andreasdr> I am here from time to time and might be asking if its ok.[15:22:12] <andreasdr> I love my MacBook Air. But it has no horse power :DDD[15:22:30] <jessicah> I'm working on some other stuff at this moment[15:22:42] <jessicah> macbook pro is work laptop[15:23:00] <jessicah> I had a macbook air, died :/[15:23:07] <jessicah> rather have a surface though, tbh[15:23:23] <jessicah> although lacks thunderbolt T_T[15:27:00] <andreasdr> K[15:29:22] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@ip4d14fc0e.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #haiku[15:30:58] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@ip4d14fc0e.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:35:06] <nzimmermann> afk, cu later[15:35:08] *** nzimmermann <nzimmermann!~nzimmerma@priv-1b-5-169.physik.rwth-aachen.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[15:35:10] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kapix@2a02:a31c:853f:7c00:329c:23ff:fe65:3b5> has joined #haiku[15:35:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KapiX[15:44:26] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.123.135.14.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[15:51:23] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[15:53:59] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.123.135.14.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[15:55:38] *** nighty- <nighty-!~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #haiku[15:57:47] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@27.67.199.84> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.1)[16:05:57] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[16:16:11] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@87-102-105-145.static.kcom.net.uk> has quit IRC ()[16:18:21] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@27.67.219.47> has joined #haiku[16:25:08] *** AD_MOS2 <AD_MOS2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:7513:fd0f:9e2a:7b4c> has joined #haiku[16:27:24] *** andreasdr <andreasdr!59f74191@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.247.65.145> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:28:29] *** AD_MOS <AD_MOS!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:7513:fd0f:9e2a:7b4c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[16:37:16] *** geoid <geoid!~geoid@193.132.54.2> has quit IRC (Quit: Be back later ...)[16:37:51] *** geoid <geoid!~geoid@193.132.54.2> has joined #haiku[16:39:57] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:40:25] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #haiku[16:41:28] <Not-10ef> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/vxxSE[16:41:30] <Not-10ef> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys 2b72590 - KDevelop: add dbus to requires[16:42:22] *** geoid <geoid!~geoid@193.132.54.2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[16:45:44] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[16:48:29] *** swift110 <swift110!~swift110@unaffiliated/swift110> has joined #haiku[17:02:20] *** Vidrep_gcc2h <Vidrep_gcc2h!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[17:02:28] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Hi[17:04:38] *** krish-iyer <krish-iyer!uid217852@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jzrdwtkaimrsdryi> has joined #haiku[17:09:26] <jessicah> hi Vidrep_gcc2h[17:19:29] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-178-010-180-219.178.010.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[17:19:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[17:19:53] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@27.67.219.47> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.1)[17:26:33] *** bongozig_ <bongozig_!~bongozig@ool-4a5a4077.dyn.optonline.net> has joined #haiku[17:29:46] *** bongozig <bongozig!~bongozig@ool-4a5a4077.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[17:39:54] *** lorglas__ <lorglas__!~lorglas@p200300E413C25500D35D7B4940D6FA54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[17:40:05] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Hi jessicah[17:40:12] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: GeneralDuke)[17:40:26] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Hi humdinger[17:41:15] <Vidrep_gcc2h> What's wrong with Software updates? Haiku getting stuck validating checksum[17:41:44] *** Dane__ <Dane__!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[17:43:14] *** lorglas_ <lorglas_!~lorglas@p200300E413C25500D35D7B4940D6FA54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[17:43:43] <jessicah> eu.hpkg.haiku-os.org is offline[17:43:51] <jessicah> we've run out of space on baron for the VM[17:44:26] <humdinger> really. I just tried, and it seems to get the Haiku repo updates alright. Not the HaikuPorts though.[17:44:38] <jessicah> try again :p[17:45:01] <humdinger> works: http://ix.io/17Bw[17:45:26] <jessicah> that's not eu.hpkg.haiku-os.org[17:45:37] <jessicah> haikuports is on that[17:45:53] <humdinger> you're correct.[17:46:09] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Of course she's correct ;)[17:46:09] <jessicah> trust me, I've logged into baron, vmpkg is paused because /home has literally 0 bytes free atm[17:46:29] <humdinger> Can I donate another harddisk? :)[17:46:48] <jessicah> this is part of the reason for migration to maui[17:47:07] <jessicah> just hasn't finished before baron ran out of resources :/[17:47:14] <humdinger> oh. thought that was because of the waves...[17:48:05] <jessicah> just when I was going to finish testing my uefi+mbr build changes, haha[17:54:37] *** preyalone <preyalone!uid21561@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kltueorhwtjjszod> has joined #haiku[17:58:23] *** Vidrep_gcc2h <Vidrep_gcc2h!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[17:59:33] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[18:04:03] *** Diver_jet <Diver_jet!c1cb648c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.193.203.100.140> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:05:42] <Vidrep_64> Looks like haikudepot is down[18:05:55] <Vidrep_64> Can't install packages or do updates[18:06:02] <Vidrep_64> WIP[18:06:13] <Vidrep_64> Try again later[18:06:47] <humdinger> as jessica explained, the HaikuPorts repo is busted due to running out of disk space[18:07:56] *** swift110 <swift110!~swift110@unaffiliated/swift110> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[18:08:29] <Vidrep_64> It might be good to have some kind of notification in HaikuDepot or SoftwareUpdater when the server is down and no connection is possible[18:09:38] <Vidrep_64> Otherwise it just keeps running without providing any feedback to the end user[18:10:57] <Vidrep_64> maybe a time limit for the connection to be established before a notification?[18:12:42] <Vidrep_64> To a new Haiku user, it appears to be a frozen app[18:13:20] <jessicah> sounds like a legit feature request[18:19:30] <Vidrep_64> Occasionally I make legit sounding feature requests :)[18:20:54] <Vidrep_64> Today's issue brought it to mind. It probably won't be the last time something like this happens.[18:21:21] <jessicah> for sure[18:21:22] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has joined #haiku[18:21:33] *** HaikuUser is now known as Dane__[18:21:42] <Dane__> Howdy![18:22:05] <Vidrep_64> Doody[18:22:32] <Dane__> Hey Vidrep_64[18:22:37] <Dane__> Anybody know what would cause a Tracker folder that somehow found its way into the Trash, to be unremovable?[18:23:19] <Vidrep_64> Dane__, I've had it happen many times. I don't know why[18:23:38] <Dane__> At least I'm not alone. :-D[18:24:35] <jessicah> sounds like a bug[18:24:36] <jessicah> :p[18:25:39] <Dane__> Definitely seems like it jessicah (hi by the way!)[18:25:44] <Vidrep_64> I've seen that issue when trashing large compilations of directories, such as haikuports, webkit, or haiku[18:25:55] <Dane__> That was the scenario this time too Vidrep_64[18:27:18] <Vidrep_64> Usually a reboot then running FilWip does the trick[18:27:42] *** ugen <ugen!uid218792@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ltkmjjqmbgjosgkc> has joined #haiku[18:27:51] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kapix@2a02:a31c:853f:7c00:329c:23ff:fe65:3b5> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:28:08] <Vidrep_64> Just guessing, but it may have to do with symlinks to read only files[18:28:36] <Vidrep_64> Really, I'm not sure though[18:30:48] <Dane__> FilWip...is that a command in Terminal?[18:36:26] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@67.44.192.165> has joined #haiku[18:36:56] <jessicah> it's an app you can install[18:37:08] <jessicah> if haikuports wasn't down :p[18:40:09] <humdinger> Dane__: see this ticket: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/7763[18:40:26] <humdinger> try the "chmod 755" trick from the comments there[18:46:55] <Vidrep_64> "Moving Tracker enhancement tickets out of R1 milestone" - this is a bug, not an enhancement. No?[18:53:13] <humdinger> I agree, Vidrep_64[18:53:21] *** c-sanchez <c-sanchez!~c-sanchez@190.79.156.25> has joined #haiku[18:53:54] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has joined #haiku[18:53:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[19:08:57] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:10:10] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@93-40-14-81.ip36.fastwebnet.it> has joined #haiku[19:10:53] <Vidrep_64> Need a reboot...[19:10:56] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[19:12:56] *** matthewstar <matthewstar!~matthewst@net-2-44-64-42.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[19:13:27] <matthewstar> hello dear friends!!! =)[19:14:12] *** Vidrep_64 <Vidrep_64!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[19:16:47] <matthewstar> peace!!! peace!!! peace!!! :-)[19:17:05] <PulkoMandy> occasionally I have corrupt files or directory that I can't remove[19:17:21] <PulkoMandy> checkfs may fix them, but may also do more damage, so, backups first[19:22:05] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@200116b82a58050016dae9fffe69b4f1.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has joined #haiku[19:23:09] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@5-198-102-244.static.kc.net.uk> has joined #haiku[19:24:55] *** fujisan <fujisan!uid4207@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vbihowntzfzpumvq> has joined #haiku[19:38:46] *** eschatologist <eschatologist!~chanson@2601:646:8400:8e92:4275:802b:a10f:1358> has joined #haiku[19:44:03] *** nedry <nedry!~vision@host109-149-127-61.range109-149.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[19:47:42] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@139.47.137.186> has joined #haiku[19:50:43] <matthewstar> PulkoMandy : is there in the air also a defrag?[19:51:21] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 263 seconds)[19:51:40] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FE6A415.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: stippi)[19:51:43] <matthewstar> freedom 4 all!!![19:52:48] <matthewstar> i only have a qustion ...[19:53:03] <matthewstar> i only have a question...[19:53:35] <matthewstar> i need Gambas basic 4 Haiku ... or ...[19:53:53] <matthewstar> or Jabaco 4 haiku ...[19:54:57] <bbjimmy> how about yab matthewstar http://yab.orgfree.com[19:55:32] <matthewstar> bbjimmy : gambas do assembler code : jit[19:56:05] <matthewstar> bbjimmy : Jabaco do java apps[19:56:33] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #haiku[19:56:45] <bbjimmy> yab does haiku apps in basic[19:58:10] <bbjimmy> is it just me, or is the haikuports repo not responding?[19:59:18] <jessicah> it's down[19:59:21] <matthewstar> bbjimmy : yes, it is preatty cool ... but interpreted language[19:59:38] <jessicah> bbjimmy: it's going to be a little while before it's back up again, issues with baron[20:00:52] <bbjimmy> it builds an exe, combining an encrypted version or the source with the interpreter.[20:01:32] <bbjimmy> is there no ssh client included in haiku?[20:02:24] *** matthewstar <matthewstar!~matthewst@net-2-44-64-42.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has left #haiku[20:02:33] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.21.95.142> has joined #haiku[20:04:40] *** nzimmermann <nzimmermann!~nzimmerma@ip-109-90-134-28.hsi11.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[20:04:54] <nzimmermann> good evening :-)[20:06:20] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.21.95.142> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:06:38] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.21.95.142> has joined #haiku[20:07:53] *** c-sanchez <c-sanchez!~c-sanchez@190.79.156.25> has quit IRC (Quit: Miranda NG! Smaller, Faster, Easier. https://miranda-ng.org/)[20:08:54] <jessicah> bbjimmy: err, yes, there should be[20:09:19] <nzimmermann> is it possible to disable the debugger temporarily? (especially the message box that pops off, asking wheter to save the report, to terminate or to debug)[20:09:43] <nzimmermann> that would be really helpful to remote debugging on a haiku machine[20:09:52] <jessicah> there's a settings file for it...[20:10:37] <bbjimmy> I can't find it. That is why I was trying to download one from the haikuports repo.[20:11:18] <humdinger> nzimmermann: see https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=hrev46547[20:11:49] <nzimmermann> jessicah: I guessed so, but only found ~/config/Settings/Debugger/Global which is in a binary format[20:12:24] <jessicah> no there's a separate file[20:12:29] <nzimmermann> humdinger, wonderful! that's exactly what I was looking for[20:12:41] <humdinger> I know :)[20:12:50] <jessicah> ah in debug_server[20:12:53] <jessicah> I always forget[20:13:06] <jessicah> humdinger: that's what I was looking for :D[20:13:27] <humdinger> bbjimmy: is a "ssh client" the same as entering in Terminal: ssh root at 1 dot 2.3.4 ?[20:13:36] <jessicah> yes[20:13:49] <bbjimmy> ssh command not fouind[20:13:50] <humdinger> jessicah: it's linked in the user guide's page on Debugger[20:13:53] <jessicah> bbjimmy: maybe there's something wrong with your packages[20:14:09] <jessicah> might pay to check syslog[20:14:13] *** tombhad-AC <tombhad-AC!~tombhadac@x4e347542.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:14:29] <jessicah> humdinger: ah nice[20:15:09] * jessicah sighs[20:15:17] <jessicah> it's only April, and already need heater[20:15:22] <jessicah> winter is here way too early[20:15:34] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A28246.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[20:16:01] <nzimmermann> works like a charm :-)[20:16:10] *** tombhadAC <tombhadAC!~tombhadac@x4e347542.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[20:16:21] <nzimmermann> jessicah: oh that must mean you're from australie or nz? :-)[20:16:54] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@67.44.192.165> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[20:17:37] <nzimmermann> humdinger: indeed, I missed the link at the very bottom of the user guide, sorry[20:17:46] <humdinger> shivering kiwi[20:18:06] <nzimmermann> aha[20:18:07] <nzimmermann> :-)[20:18:18] <humdinger> nzimmermann: I just mentioned it, because I also have to look where to find the info...[20:18:19] <nzimmermann> fortunately it gets warmer in germany at the moment... can't stand the cold anymore[20:18:31] <humdinger> indeed.[20:19:12] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@67.44.192.165> has joined #haiku[20:20:08] <nzimmermann> humdinger: are any of the kernel hackers that were working on the VM still present? names I saw often were "Ingo Weinhold", "Alex Doerfler", "Alexander van Gluck" (at least I see him on IRC :-)[20:20:24] <jessicah> we had a massive storm system across the entire country last 2-3 days[20:20:42] <jessicah> the highest wind gust recorded was something like 213km/h...[20:20:43] <humdinger> Axel Dörfler. yes all three are still here. more or less.[20:21:18] <jessicah> horizontal rain, tornados, snow, hail...[20:21:20] <humdinger> aside of Alexander (kallisti5) they haven't been active for some time though.[20:21:21] <jessicah> pure nastiness[20:21:30] <jessicah> massive thunderstorms too[20:21:34] <humdinger> jessicah: sounds exciting![20:21:41] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[20:21:44] *** lorglas__ <lorglas__!~lorglas@p200300E413C25500D35D7B4940D6FA54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:21:47] <nzimmermann> humdinger: good to hear. I CC'ed all of them on #14082 - I have an idea how to debug this, but would like to hear the opinion, to eventually avoid a useless endeavour :-)0[20:22:04] <jessicah> ingo isn't really around much[20:22:40] <humdinger> nzimmermann: not sure cc'ing is the politest way to go. Use the haiku-development mailing list instead. The guys keep reading it.[20:22:48] <humdinger> it's quite low traffic (unfortunately)[20:23:38] <nzimmermann> humdinger: oh okay, I wasn't aware of that[20:23:41] <humdinger> I do hope the guys can make it to BeGeistert in November...[20:24:12] <nzimmermann> humdinger: I'm used to the WebKit working style, where one usually CC's all interessted parties[20:25:00] <jessicah> nzimmermann: you're working on virtual memory?[20:25:06] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A28246.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: euver)[20:25:23] <humdinger> that may work too. usually people do get all changes to tickets and decide to CC themselves. The ML has a larger audience, if you need feedback[20:25:30] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@179.181.122.156> has joined #haiku[20:25:50] <nzimmermann> jessicah: no not at all, I worked on WebKit and it's ancestors for 17 years :-)[20:26:07] <jessicah> you're going to work on haiku's virtual memory?[20:26:16] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@179.181.122.156> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:26:32] <jessicah> oh, you have that PAE thing[20:26:35] <nzimmermann> my kernel skills are limited, and I only intend to get Haiku running smoothly on AMD systems, with PAE activated :-)[20:27:43] <nzimmermann> humdinger: I'll keep that in mind for the next tickets[20:27:45] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has joined #haiku[20:28:29] <jessicah> the cc is probably good here, as I think the haiku bugs list isn't working presently?[20:29:37] <jessicah> my last haiku-bugs email was october last year[20:30:04] <jessicah> you'll get an email if you're directly involved with tickets, but not new ticket notifications[20:30:16] *** Guest43623 <Guest43623!uid209358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vuwzbdfvdgzonzxo> has joined #haiku[20:30:52] <humdinger> I think you're right, jessicah. :([20:31:09] <jessicah> had to be disabled after a trac upgrade[20:31:18] <jessicah> was sending account registration emails to the list[20:31:52] <humdinger> right. I remember now.[20:32:07] <humdinger> things seem to crumble...[20:34:11] *** krish-iyer <krish-iyer!uid217852@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jzrdwtkaimrsdryi> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[20:36:38] <nzimmermann> :-)[20:37:06] *** lorglas__ <lorglas__!~lorglas@p200300E413C25500D35D7B4940D6FA54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[20:40:23] *** c-sanchez <c-sanchez!~c-sanchez@185.244.215.234> has joined #haiku[20:40:35] *** nedry <nedry!~vision@host109-149-127-61.range109-149.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[20:44:28] *** ugen <ugen!uid218792@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ltkmjjqmbgjosgkc> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[20:44:37] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has joined #haiku[20:44:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[20:46:47] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@139.47.137.186> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[20:50:49] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-178-010-180-219.178.010.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[20:52:18] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@67.44.192.165> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[20:53:54] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.123.135.14.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[20:57:43] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kapix@2a02:a31c:853f:7c00:329c:23ff:fe65:3b5> has joined #haiku[20:57:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KapiX[21:08:12] *** andreasdr <andreasdr!59f74191@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.247.65.145> has joined #haiku[21:11:17] *** Dane__ <Dane__!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[21:20:12] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@67.44.192.165> has joined #haiku[21:24:09] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@84.123.135.14.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[21:24:29] *** gorbypark <gorbypark!~gorbypark@139.47.137.186> has joined #haiku[21:26:42] *** lorglas__ <lorglas__!~lorglas@p200300E413C25500D35D7B4940D6FA54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:33:05] *** valerius <valerius!~valerius@2a01:4f8:d16:2052::2> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - 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