April 5, 2018 
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April 5, 2018 [00:01:42] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.48.40.103> has quit IRC (Quit: Dariost)[00:03:48] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Barrett, just saw the dialog on the other channel re. ffmpeg[00:16:42] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:19:27] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[00:19:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[00:20:55] <Barrett> Vidrep_gcc2h, no seeking support is just stubbed[00:21:02] <Barrett> that's the issue[00:21:37] <Barrett> and MP need some massagement to support it anyway[00:22:21] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@200116b82a8d4a0016dae9fffe69b4f1.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:27:15] *** orobor0z <orobor0z!~orobor0z@dgsvwzyc9jdb55j2ktt7y-3.rev.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: bye)[00:30:52] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Hey Barrett[00:30:59] <Vidrep_gcc2h> stubbed?[00:31:53] <Vidrep_gcc2h> I can take a mp3 that won't seek, convert it to wav (raw) and then it seeks OK[00:33:43] <Barrett> I refer to support seeking streaming content[00:36:43] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Having that ability would be nice to have (streaming seek)[00:37:38] <Vidrep_gcc2h> There's a long laundry list of "hace to have" enhancements, but realistically, I know we can't implement a lot of them[00:38:46] <Barrett> about MP crashing on seeking that file, fill a ticket + sample file could be useful someday[00:39:22] <Vidrep_gcc2h> I have a ticket (I'll need to look for it)[00:39:32] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@broadband-46-242-8-91.moscow.rt.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:39:35] <Barrett> I've re-read the question and figured out you seeked the actual downloaded file[00:40:16] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Yes[00:40:41] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Here's one ticket on crashing while seeking https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/13410[00:40:42] <Barrett> ffmpeg should output something in terminal[00:40:52] <Barrett> this is precious info to attach to the ticket[00:42:07] *** bradsco_mac <bradsco_mac!~brad@c-71-63-126-5.hsd1.va.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[00:44:08] <Vidrep_gcc2h> I have a sample on my Desktop of a downloaed mp3 podcast (name shortened to simple "audio.mp3)[00:44:37] <Barrett> the ffmpeg output opening MP from terminal is vital in reporting this kind of tickets[00:44:50] <Vidrep_gcc2h> It will crash MP when trying to seek. I also have the converted to wav file ("audio.wav)[00:44:56] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@5-198-102-244.static.kc.net.uk> has joined #haiku[00:45:20] <Vidrep_gcc2h> I can attach both to that ticket, as well as the terminal output of each[00:46:28] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Only one problem preventing me from doing that...trac will not allow me to add, or attach anything to tickets[00:47:29] <Barrett> I don't know, I'm not the right person to ask[00:47:35] <Barrett> contact the admins or the ml[00:49:06] <Vidrep_gcc2h> In the meantime, I'll spam the terminal output here, if you don't mind....not much :)[00:49:12] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Welcome to the Haiku shell.[00:49:12] <Vidrep_gcc2h>[00:49:13] <Vidrep_gcc2h> ~/Desktop> MediaPlayer audio.mp3[00:49:13] <Vidrep_gcc2h> open playlist item: audio.mp3[00:49:14] <Vidrep_gcc2h> [mp3 @ 0x1842cf80] max_analyze_duration 5000000 reached at 5015510[00:49:15] <Vidrep_gcc2h> [mp3 @ 0x18430f80] max_analyze_duration 5000000 reached at 5015510[00:49:15] <Vidrep_gcc2h> [wav @ 0x184309b8] max_analyze_duration 5000000 reached at 5015510[00:49:16] <Vidrep_gcc2h> [wav @ 0x184309b8] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate[00:49:16] <Vidrep_gcc2h> _InitFromTrack(): keyframes: 1, frame count: 298851839[00:49:17] <Vidrep_gcc2h> running without video node[00:49:18] <Vidrep_gcc2h> [libmodplug @ 0x18591c20] Max file size reach (see -max_size), allocating 5242880B but demuxing is likely to fail due to incomplete buffer[00:49:18] <Vidrep_gcc2h> BMediaTrack::FindKeyFrameForFrame: extractor seek failed: General system error[00:49:19] <Vidrep_gcc2h> seek to key frame backward: 53195184 -> 491520 (491520) - General system error[00:51:31] *** nedry <nedry!~vision@host86-178-47-91.range86-178.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[00:51:40] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Now the same file after converting to wav(raw) with MediaConverter[00:51:44] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Welcome to the Haiku shell.[00:51:45] <Vidrep_gcc2h>[00:51:45] <Vidrep_gcc2h> ~/Desktop> MediaPlayer audio.wav[00:51:46] <Vidrep_gcc2h> open playlist item: audio.wav[00:51:46] <Vidrep_gcc2h> [wav @ 0x18284490] max_analyze_duration 5000000 reached at 5015510[00:51:47] <Vidrep_gcc2h> [wav @ 0x18284490] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate[00:51:48] <Vidrep_gcc2h> [mp3 @ 0x18283ec8] max_analyze_duration 5000000 reached at 5015510[00:51:48] <Vidrep_gcc2h> _InitFromTrack(): keyframes: 1, frame count: 298850843[00:51:49] <Vidrep_gcc2h> running without video node[00:51:50] <Vidrep_gcc2h> [wav @ 0x183a1d38] max_analyze_duration 5000000 reached at 5015510[00:51:50] <Vidrep_gcc2h> [wav @ 0x183a1d38] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate[00:53:21] <Vidrep_gcc2h> That's all I can do until trac is fixed, otherwise I'd have uploaded the data to a ticket[00:57:45] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@5-198-102-244.static.kc.net.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[00:58:23] <Barrett> I'm not in hurry and I'm not going to look at it anytime soon[01:00:49] *** MrHuggy <MrHuggy!~mrhug@adsl-178-78-88-138.karoo.kcom.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:05:46] *** Qatz <Qatz!~DB@c-66-31-24-126.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[01:06:19] *** Qatz <Qatz!~DB@c-66-31-24-126.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:17:19] *** Qatz <Qatz!~DB@c-66-31-24-126.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[01:21:33] *** DCatt <DCatt!~vision@pool-71-113-4-47.rcmdva.east.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[01:24:48] <Vidrep_gcc2h> I knew that already ;)[01:28:09] <geist> i think you'd do a lot better to file a bug with that instead of pasting it in here[01:31:23] <Vidrep_gcc2h> geist https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/13410[01:31:43] <Vidrep_gcc2h> I year ago[01:33:11] <geist> ah[01:34:36] <Vidrep_gcc2h> dane has this one too, which is related : https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/13981[01:39:40] *** leorize2 <leorize2!~leorize@27.67.196.150> has joined #haiku[01:40:25] *** leorize2 is now known as leorize[01:59:03] *** Zenja <Zenja!6eaea890@gateway/web/freenode/ip.110.174.168.144> has joined #haiku[02:00:57] <Zenja> Vidrep_gcc2h: Regarding media kit seeking and errors, for the video editor I'm developing under Haiku, I need to retry the seek request a number of times before it succeeds. Generally less than 3 attempts is sufficient. Seeking may fail occassionally, so it's important to check the error code.[02:13:45] <Not-10ef> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/vxD0T[02:13:46] <Not-10ef> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson 7464d2d - libdvdcss: bump to 1.4.2.[02:27:40] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Zenja, good luck with that[02:28:24] <Vidrep_gcc2h> If the audio track is mp3, it will probably not work[02:28:46] <Vidrep_gcc2h> If there is audio art attached to the mp3 track, it may crash[02:29:41] <Vidrep_gcc2h> There's plenty of tickets for these issues already. Lots of data for whomever takes on the task of fixing[02:32:02] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1396 of haiku-nightlies-x86_64 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86_64/builds/1396[02:34:39] <Zenja> Vidrep_gcc2h regarding the video editor, the video part is *done*. I'm happy with how the OpenGL effects work, and the GUI. The next stage is splitting the effects into plug-ins (at the moment, they're embedded). Once I've done this part, then I start on audio component of the video editor. At this stage, I do not know what to expect (MediaKit wise).[02:34:44] <AudioRCA> Hey all. I'm trying to update to the latest nightly and or some reason I can't update the Haiku repo. Is anyone else having this problem?[02:40:09] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@27.67.196.150> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[02:41:40] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!dario@181.46.220.4> has joined #haiku[02:43:10] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@27.67.196.150> has joined #haiku[02:45:47] *** geist_ <geist_!~geist@tkgeisel.com> has joined #haiku[02:45:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o geist_[02:46:24] *** pebble`_ <pebble`_!~pebble@unaffiliated/espiral> has joined #haiku[02:46:37] *** johnny_b_ <johnny_b_!~johnny@193.6.128.171> has joined #haiku[02:49:41] *** nekron_ <nekron_!~nekron@noordsee.de> has joined #haiku[02:50:17] *** zChris_ <zChris_!~zChris@h-112-71.A166.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #haiku[02:51:13] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!~vision@67.44.192.104> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[02:51:13] *** drawkula <drawkula!~username@p57BDF8B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[02:51:13] *** nekron <nekron!~nekron@noordsee.de> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[02:51:14] *** zChris <zChris!~zChris@h-112-71.A166.priv.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[02:51:14] *** pebble` <pebble`!~pebble@unaffiliated/espiral> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[02:51:14] *** trn <trn!jhj@prone.ws> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[02:51:14] *** johnny_b <johnny_b!~johnny@unaffiliated/johnny-b/x-2136417> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[02:51:14] *** geist <geist!~geist@tkgeisel.com> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[02:51:15] *** nekron_ is now known as nekron[02:51:15] *** zChris_ is now known as zChris[02:51:19] *** pebble`_ is now known as pebble`[02:53:55] *** sleepyspider <sleepyspider!~quassel@99-74-63-171.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #haiku[02:54:27] *** e1z0 <e1z0!~null@88.216.80.57> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:56:06] <Vidrep_gcc2h> AudioRCA, yep, known problem[02:56:26] *** e1z0 <e1z0!~null@88.216.80.57> has joined #haiku[02:59:20] *** drawkula <drawkula!~username@p57BDF8B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[03:00:39] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Barrett, I we made ffmpeg3 the default for x86_gcc2h, couldn't old BeOS apps that need the older version have it installed as a dependency?[03:03:47] *** trn <trn!jhj@prone.ws> has joined #haiku[03:06:25] <Barrett> Vidrep_gcc2h, I don't understand the question[03:06:36] *** AD_Anime2 <AD_Anime2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:c8cd:be59:cc41:e5a8> has joined #haiku[03:08:30] *** geist_ is now known as geist[03:10:02] *** AD_MOS2 <AD_MOS2!~JohnN@2a02:c7f:b264:e400:3dd3:89cb:5eaf:6ab4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[03:23:50] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Barret, still here?[03:24:04] <Vidrep_gcc2h> I'll rephrase the question[03:25:35] <Vidrep_gcc2h> x86_gcc2h has 2 different ffmpeg versions. The primary reason for keeping the old one is because of some old BeOS apps, like SoundPlay[03:26:06] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Because of that MediaPlayer is using that old version as well[03:27:19] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Why not make ffmpeg3 the default for MediaPlayer, and make the old version an optional package to be installed ONLY when using an old BeOS app that needs it?[03:27:41] <Barrett> Vidrep_gcc2h, the thing has been discussed already[03:27:48] <Vidrep_gcc2h> I know[03:28:09] <Barrett> if it was for me, I'd be OK[03:28:12] <Vidrep_gcc2h> It's a losing arguemet :([03:28:32] <Vidrep_gcc2h> The powers that be...[03:28:38] <Barrett> I have the power to do it[03:28:44] <Barrett> it's just I don't have the interest[03:29:01] <Barrett> and right now I'm not sure it'd be a real benefit from day one[03:29:12] <Barrett> the real benefit would be to focus on the new plugin[03:30:48] <Barrett> we are basically trying to don't mess around with stuff[03:30:52] <Barrett> until the beta is out[03:31:37] <Barrett> in general it'd probably make sense to deprecate gcc2h completely[03:31:49] <Barrett> and ship gcc5h and x86_64 only[03:33:11] <Barrett> but...again I'm bored of discussing this stuff again and again[03:34:40] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Quit: Capeesh? 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I used some code from Be sample code for synthesizer software 2001 regarding media server node. But I heard there is now a more easy way to get sound to output. Is this true? Any hints?[07:43:54] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@5-198-102-244.static.kc.net.uk> has joined #haiku[07:48:02] *** abx1_ <abx1_!uid103467@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ekduxyldzsywcunu> has joined #haiku[07:52:42] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@113.119.159.6> has joined #haiku[07:57:57] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@113.119.159.6> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:58:19] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@113.119.159.6> has joined #haiku[08:13:18] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@27.67.218.10> has joined #haiku[08:17:14] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:c40f:305a:33d0:7555> has joined #haiku[08:44:50] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@174-24-97-227.clsp.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[08:50:03] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[08:50:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mmu_man[09:04:30] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@200116b82a04670016dae9fffe69b4f1.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has joined #haiku[09:15:28] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has joined #haiku[09:37:41] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[09:44:16] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p200300C65BE92900E55C88553EC2803F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[09:57:04] *** Zenja <Zenja!6eaea890@gateway/web/freenode/ip.110.174.168.144> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[09:58:56] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@113.119.159.6> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:59:09] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@public-gprs351090.centertel.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:59:32] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@113.119.159.6> has joined #haiku[09:59:44] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@113.119.159.6> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:00:14] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@113.119.159.6> has joined #haiku[10:01:45] *** Cebulon <Cebulon!~vision@aftr-37-201-214-216.unity-media.net> has joined #haiku[10:05:57] <andreasdr> Hi, anyone here with Haiku media stuff knowledge?[10:08:28] <korli> hi andreasdr[10:08:51] *** krish-iyer <krish-iyer!uid217852@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tjriekcjeuovmrvd> has joined #haiku[10:09:19] <korli> andreasdr: maybe simply ask[10:09:47] <andreasdr> I have a short question. I used some code from Be sample code for synthesizer software I wrote back in 2001 regarding media server output node. But I heard there is now a more easy way to get sound to output. Is this true? Any hints?[10:09:59] <andreasdr> I basically just want to output sound first that I generate.[10:10:06] <andreasdr> To sound card.[10:10:16] <andreasdr> Hi korli.[10:10:34] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[10:11:13] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@77.79.212.94> has joined #haiku[10:11:47] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!alam@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[10:11:59] <korli> andreasdr: typically there is a BSoundPlayer class for that, back from R5[10:12:36] <andreasdr> Ok. Nice. I will check that. Is there a BSoundRecorder class or similar too? Just asking.[10:12:40] <andreasdr> Thank you.[10:12:58] <korli> see https://www.haiku-os.org/legacy-docs/bebook/BSoundPlayer_Overview.html[10:13:06] <andreasdr> Then I made things too compilcated back in 2000. Hehe.[10:13:14] *** Schroeder <Schroeder!1000@unaffiliated/unclejimbob> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:13:27] <andreasdr> Thats amazing Korli. Thank you.[10:13:39] *** Schroeder <Schroeder!1000@charliebrown.outwardhosting.com> has joined #haiku[10:13:40] *** Schroeder <Schroeder!1000@charliebrown.outwardhosting.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[10:13:40] *** Schroeder <Schroeder!1000@unaffiliated/unclejimbob> has joined #haiku[10:14:11] <korli> I think Barrett implemented something for recording yes[10:14:34] <korli> andreasdr: but the documentation is missing: https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/api/group__media.html[10:15:01] <andreasdr> That would be nice too!!! I dreamed for some years to write a simple hard disc recording studio. That would be a easy way to record from sound card. Thank you.[10:15:12] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!alam@pool-173-48-145-57.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has joined #haiku[10:15:27] *** zChris <zChris!~zChris@h-112-71.A166.priv.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:17:03] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@181.41.210.237> has joined #haiku[10:17:04] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@181.41.210.237> has quit IRC (Changing host)[10:17:04] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has joined #haiku[10:17:26] *** zChris <zChris!~zChris@h-112-71.A166.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #haiku[10:20:40] *** Schroeder <Schroeder!1000@unaffiliated/unclejimbob> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:20:48] *** Schroeder <Schroeder!1000@charliebrown.outwardhosting.com> has joined #haiku[10:20:49] *** Schroeder <Schroeder!1000@charliebrown.outwardhosting.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[10:20:49] *** Schroeder <Schroeder!1000@unaffiliated/unclejimbob> has joined #haiku[10:22:29] <krish-iyer> korli: we need to compile with -fPIC, somewhere in DataReader the object is absolute. We need to place CFLAGS += -fPIC somewhere in Jam, I am not sure where.[10:23:42] <andreasdr> korli: Damn.[10:25:48] *** siel <siel!~siel@unaffiliated/motley> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[10:26:19] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[10:26:53] *** brobostigon <brobostigon!~ptaylor@taylorworld.me.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:26:57] *** Serenitty[m] <Serenitty[m]!serenittym@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-mupvrfexqtumwctv> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[10:27:22] *** zChris <zChris!~zChris@h-112-71.A166.priv.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[10:27:32] *** cypa[m] <cypa[m]!cypamatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rzrcknuacvbrvrgg> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[10:27:39] *** siel <siel!~siel@unaffiliated/motley> has joined #haiku[10:27:56] *** zChris <zChris!~zChris@h-112-71.A166.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #haiku[10:30:57] *** nekron <nekron!~nekron@noordsee.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:33:02] *** nekron <nekron!~nekron@noordsee.de> has joined #haiku[10:33:19] *** cypa[m] <cypa[m]!cypamatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bzgvjqbzbznpcsam> has joined #haiku[10:33:42] <jessicah> krish-iyer: what's that for?[10:34:12] *** brobostigon <brobostigon!~ptaylor@taylorworld.me.uk> has joined #haiku[10:34:24] <krish-iyer> jessicah: was trying to fix https://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64-debug/builds/202/steps/jam%20%40minimum-raw/logs/stdio[10:35:18] <krish-iyer> I am not sure if we can compile kernel with -fPIC[10:35:24] *** Serenitty[m] <Serenitty[m]!serenittym@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qyqkisgvakwxnryw> has joined #haiku[10:35:56] <jessicah> hmm, I can't open that page :/[10:36:13] <jessicah> times out here[10:37:18] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has joined #haiku[10:37:37] <korli> andreasdr: BMediaRecorder is now used in SoundRecorder. when you need, have a look in the git history https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/src/apps/soundrecorder[10:38:00] <jessicah> there are multiple DataReader classes[10:38:07] <jessicah> the dwarf one or package kit one?[10:38:21] <korli> krbtgt: maybe I'm wrong, but I think fPIC is the default for the toolchain[10:38:38] <jessicah> I'm pretty sure x86_64 is PIC by default[10:38:40] <korli> sorry krish-iyer[10:38:49] <jessicah> could be wrong[10:39:34] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@200116b82a04670016dae9fffe69b4f1.dip.versatel-1u1.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:39:44] *** andreasdr <andreasdr!3ed6fdae@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.214.253.174> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[10:40:15] <krish-iyer> but then why it's asking to recompile with fPIC: https://pastebin.com/8A3Sb600[10:41:08] <krish-iyer> yesterday, I tried to place it and I got another error saying, kernel has support for PIC flag[10:42:22] <jessicah> oh it's a debug build?[10:42:36] <jessicah> hmm; I haven't tried a debug build in a while[10:43:00] <jessicah> release build compiles fine, so I think the PIC thing might be a red herring[10:45:17] <krish-iyer> jessicah: yeah it's a debug build, PulkoMandy asked to compile add-on with -fPIC which would somewhere be in build/jam[10:46:56] <jessicah> it's strange it doesn't manifest itself with the release build[10:47:11] <jessicah> and the code for DataReader is extremely basic[10:47:15] <korli> jessicah: yes[10:47:55] <korli> and the nice generic ticket is here: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/14058[10:48:43] <jessicah> hmm, another URL that times out for me...[10:49:09] *** nighty- <nighty-!~nighty@p001.gate.atson.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)[10:49:41] <korli> jessicah: content is what is in the error log[10:53:41] <jessicah> krish-iyer: I'd probably run jam with -dx in a debug and a release profile[10:53:48] <jessicah> and compare the actual command lines run[10:54:05] <jessicah> you do get a LOT of output, so redirect to a file and grep :)[10:57:03] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[10:57:04] *** The_Nozy <The_Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[10:57:10] *** The_Nozy <The_Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:57:24] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:57:27] <jessicah> might be able to build a bit less with something like jam -q -dx '<src!add-ons!kernel!file_systems!packagefs>packagefs'[10:57:38] <jessicah> if that is the right grist for it... should be correct[10:57:39] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[10:58:12] <jessicah> `jam -q -dx packagefs` may also work, not sure :)[10:59:25] <korli> jessicah: packagefs is enough yes[11:16:15] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@67.219.239.116> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:16:25] <korli> jessicah: the bug 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<nzimmermann!~nzimmerma@priv-1b-5-169.physik.rwth-aachen.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:40:29] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[12:43:04] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has joined #haiku[12:46:22] *** qweo <qweo!~rider@ppp109-252-70-18.pppoe.spdop.ru> has joined #haiku[12:46:42] <qweo> Good daytime![12:47:11] <qweo> Was there any work on porting Haiku to other architectures?[12:48:42] *** al_xv <al_xv!~al_xv@host-72-174-211-5.gdj-co.client.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection timed out)[12:51:19] *** ugen <ugen!uid218792@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kdokddhyxdvodxyr> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[13:02:03] *** nedry_1 <nedry_1!~vision@host86-178-47-91.range86-178.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.10.2]: i've been blurred!)[13:02:18] *** sIRC_ <sIRC_!~sIRC_@89.107.233.220.static.exetel.com.au> has joined #haiku[13:04:27] *** andreasdr 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versions of Haiku? Toolchain is irrelevant. Breakage introduced OTOH[15:29:35] <qweo> miqlas, do you know if any of non-PC ports ever ran on actual hardware?[15:30:13] <miqlas> qweo: what is " architecture-specific code build with current versions of Haiku"?[15:30:30] <miqlas> Still can't decipher, sorry[15:30:51] <miqlas> every port based on mainline, with arch specific patches.[15:31:14] <qweo> Do the patches still apply?[15:31:51] <miqlas> so if somebody gets the ppc port working, it will look and behave the same way as the x86 does (let's imagine there is no platform limitations in features, btw i know about none, but could be)[15:32:14] <miqlas> qweo: there are no patches, the platform specific thin IS in the mainline.[15:32:35] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[15:32:53] <qweo> That's nice to hear.[15:42:29] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[15:53:28] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpilwc1381lt1t4g.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[15:53:40] <Begasus> g'afternoon peeps[15:53:56] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@27.67.197.132> has left #haiku ("WeeChat 2.1")[16:00:20] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpilwc1381lt1t4g.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[16:00:25] <miqlas> Bega! Whats up with texlive?[16:02:25] *** rajpratik71 <rajpratik71!~semicode@2405:204:e304:2659:39b8:52bd:34fd:73de> has quit IRC (Quit: rajpratik71)[16:12:23] *** Begasus <Begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpilwc1381lt1t4g.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[16:16:17] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@27.67.219.211> has joined #haiku[16:18:59] <leorize> hi Begasus[16:19:43] *** Vidrep_gcc2h <Vidrep_gcc2h!~vision@d108-173-60-61.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[16:24:15] <Begasus> hi leorize![16:24:22] <Begasus> hi Vidrep_gcc2h! ;)[16:25:04] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Hi Begasus[16:32:43] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@dslb-188-099-112-236.188.099.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[16:32:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[16:37:49] <Begasus> hi humdinger :)[16:38:05] <humdinger> peep Begasus![16:38:15] <Begasus> peep :)[16:38:19] <Begasus> how's it going?[16:41:55] <humdinger> good, good. you?[16:41:58] <humdinger> very windy here...[16:50:32] *** nedry_1 <nedry_1!~vision@host86-178-47-91.range86-178.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[16:53:25] <Vidrep_gcc2h> Hi humdinger[16:53:35] <humdinger> hey Vidrep_gcc2h![16:55:34] <Begasus> atm sun is shining, but yeah, april's weather also here :)[17:01:16] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: GeneralDuke)[17:03:01] *** ugen <ugen!uid218792@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cvdkuqqgznjztkns> has joined #haiku[17:06:10] *** [r4] <[r4]!~r4]@staticline-31-183-168-106.toya.net.pl> has joined #haiku[17:10:13] *** leorize <leorize!~leorize@27.67.219.211> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.1)[17:11:13] *** thaflo <thaflo!~vision@dial-191217.pool.broadband44.net> has joined #haiku[17:13:27] *** thaflo <thaflo!~vision@dial-191217.pool.broadband44.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:32:42] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has joined #haiku[17:32:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[17:39:11] *** JackBurton <JackBurton!0271b557@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.113.181.87> has joined #haiku[17:40:55] *** JackBurton is now known as JackBurton79[17:41:02] <JackBurton79> hi all[17:42:06] <humdinger> hi JackBurton79[17:43:41] <JackBurton79> hey @Humdinger[17:45:35] <JackBurton79> does anyone know if it's possible, in Haiku, to change a BView layout at runtime, without making it crash & burn ?[17:47:39] *** tombhadAC <tombhadAC!~tombhadac@x4db40d44.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[17:48:38] *** Qatz <Qatz!~DB@c-66-31-24-126.hsd1.nh.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:52:10] *** HAIKU-irker365 <HAIKU-irker365!~irker@maui.haiku-os.org> has joined #haiku[17:52:10] <HAIKU-irker365> haiku.master: jerome.duval * hrev51869 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=b1f1332ebbd4+%5Eae5821e892ba[17:52:10] <HAIKU-irker365> b1f1332ebbd4: PackageKit: use the correct kernel headers.[17:52:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v HAIKU-irker365[17:53:06] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@113.65.127.51> has joined #haiku[17:58:41] *** andyhuzhill <andyhuzhill!~andyhuzhi@113.65.127.51> has quit IRC (Quit: andyhuzhill)[18:00:03] <Vidrep_gcc2h> PulkoMandy, thanks for the answer[18:00:05] <JackBurton79> But I think it's not[18:02:44] <Vidrep_gcc2h> humdinger, I need a pick-me-up...say something funny :)[18:04:08] *** Merlijn_ <Merlijn_!Merlijn@cm-84.211.137.84.getinternet.no> has joined #haiku[18:09:46] <Begasus> heading out, dogschool, cu later peeps! 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Can't be done. No mention of media kit, until today. Now I know it's possible[19:58:45] <Vidrep_gcc2h> At least you take the time to answer and elaborate beyond a yes/no[20:01:58] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@public-gprs351339.centertel.pl> has joined #haiku[20:08:03] *** krish-iyer <krish-iyer!uid217852@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tjriekcjeuovmrvd> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[20:24:47] *** lorglas <lorglas!~lorglas@p200300E413C3850033E86BB859915DF0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[20:41:22] *** drawkula <drawkula!~username@p57BDF8B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 2.1)[20:45:16] *** drawkula <drawkula!~username@p57BDF8B3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[20:48:04] *** sha_ <sha_!3b5f5ad9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.95.90.217> has joined #haiku[20:49:20] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@lns-bzn-36-82-251-21-187.adsl.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[20:49:20] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@lns-bzn-36-82-251-21-187.adsl.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:49:20] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has joined #haiku[20:52:11] *** HAIKU-irker365 <HAIKU-irker365!~irker@maui.haiku-os.org> has quit IRC (Quit: transmission timeout)[20:58:00] *** sha_ <sha_!3b5f5ad9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.95.90.217> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[21:25:10] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.20.184.73> has joined #haiku[21:28:59] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.20.184.73> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:29:14] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.20.184.73> has joined #haiku[21:33:00] *** kaiser2 <kaiser2!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eajtrpqvpdmucfec> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[21:40:56] *** lorglas <lorglas!~lorglas@p200300E413C3850033E86BB859915DF0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[21:41:36] <Not-10ef> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/vxSLu[21:41:37] <Not-10ef> [haiku/infrastructure] korli 206bb6e - buildbot: update debug jam targets for arm and ppc (#14)[21:43:09] <Not-10ef> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+7/-0/±1] https://git.io/vxSLS[21:43:11] <Not-10ef> [haiku/infrastructure] nielx 69f1121 - Add a container for Pootle (#13)[22:03:39] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e363888.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[22:09:59] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@c-73-199-164-95.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[22:10:04] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@c-73-199-164-95.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:11:58] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@82-183-10-104.customers.ownit.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[22:18:34] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e363888.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[22:31:37] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p200300C65BE92900E55C88553EC2803F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[22:34:50] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[22:35:32] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has joined #haiku[23:00:37] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@174-24-97-227.clsp.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:01:15] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@84.117.115.119> has joined #haiku[23:01:43] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@84.117.115.119> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:12:47] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@67.219.239.116> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-090423]: i've been blurred!)[23:17:06] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@174-24-97-227.clsp.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[23:17:23] *** Sri_Designer <Sri_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[23:18:56] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[23:24:39] *** orobor0z <orobor0z!~orobor0z@dgsvwzyfgljgljjq0wq5y-3.rev.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: bye)[23:32:02] *** Sri_Designer is now known as Sir_Designer[23:37:51] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:38:11] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.20.184.73> has quit IRC (Quit: Dariost)[23:38:18] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #haiku[23:38:30] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@unaffiliated/gouchi> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte)[23:43:47] *** swerner <swerner!~swerner@ipbcc14d08.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:51:27] *** tombhadAC <tombhadAC!~tombhadac@x4db40d44.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:54:53] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@2a02:2168:2ccc:2900:c40f:305a:33d0:7555> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)