February 1, 2017 
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February 1, 2017 [00:01:36] *** kentahaiku <kentahaiku!~kentaromi@2a02:c7f:c609:a00:6c6c:be5b:71b8:a574> has joined #haiku[00:07:47] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[00:09:57] *** rgb <rgb!~vision@vir91-7-88-163-35-222.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[00:21:51] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)[00:36:03] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@apn-31-0-65-25.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:40:44] *** premoboss <premoboss!~utente@91.253.50.246> has joined #haiku[00:41:38] <premoboss> i read Bera is 'caming soon'... what means? months? weeks?[00:43:28] <premoboss> bera=beta[00:45:28] <Vidrep> premoboss, I would assume months[00:45:38] <Vidrep> ...for various reasons[00:46:33] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vxzooyhasnemruja> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:46:33] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@unaffiliated/whilhelm> has joined #haiku[00:46:33] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@unaffiliated/whilhelm> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:46:33] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vxzooyhasnemruja> has joined #haiku[00:47:05] *** hbelusca <hbelusca!~hbelusca@reactos/developer/hbelusca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:48:59] <premoboss> i see open bugs never goes under 30... old goes but news cames, so the number always float around 30.[00:49:37] <Vidrep> There was to be a feature freeze today, followed by bug fixing[00:49:41] <premoboss> but the main issues, the more criticals, still are the same. it means that only minor bugs are fixed an the main still stay there.[00:50:05] <Vidrep> However, that date will probably be push back a little due to some other issues[00:50:12] <premoboss> ok[00:51:40] *** kentahaiku <kentahaiku!~kentaromi@2a02:c7f:c609:a00:6c6c:be5b:71b8:a574> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[00:54:29] *** hbelusca <hbelusca!~hbelusca@reactos/developer/hbelusca> has joined #haiku[00:57:00] *** premoboss <premoboss!~utente@91.253.50.246> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[01:00:51] *** hbelusca|2 <hbelusca|2!~hbelusca@AMontsouris-654-1-22-238.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #haiku[01:00:57] *** hbelusca <hbelusca!~hbelusca@reactos/developer/hbelusca> has quit IRC (Killed (verne.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services)))[01:00:57] *** hbelusca|2 is now known as hbelusca[01:00:57] *** hbelusca <hbelusca!~hbelusca@AMontsouris-654-1-22-238.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Changing host)[01:00:57] *** hbelusca <hbelusca!~hbelusca@reactos/developer/hbelusca> has joined #haiku[01:06:23] *** kentahaiku <kentahaiku!~kentaromi@5ec14eb1.skybroadband.com> has joined #haiku[01:07:57] *** hbelusca|2 <hbelusca|2!~hbelusca@AMontsouris-654-1-22-238.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #haiku[01:11:03] *** hbelusca <hbelusca!~hbelusca@reactos/developer/hbelusca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:11:14] *** pdziepak <pdziepak!~pdziepak@88.98.223.225> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:13:55] *** hbelusca <hbelusca!~hbelusca@reactos/developer/hbelusca> has joined #haiku[01:16:32] *** hbelusca|2 <hbelusca|2!~hbelusca@AMontsouris-654-1-22-238.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[01:27:23] *** stakewinner00 <stakewinner00!~stakewinn@208.96.21.95.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC ()[01:28:40] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[01:53:13] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/db1555d865bb...ba7766bc03b9[01:53:15] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson ba7766b - lbreakout2: fix build dependency on libpng16. 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<Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@75-172-58-158.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[03:43:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[03:54:44] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:11:12] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[04:20:48] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-0-243.dynamic.mtsallstream.net> has joined #haiku[04:24:40] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@wnpgmb016qw-ds01-0-243.dynamic.mtsallstream.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:26:39] *** nighty- <nighty-!~cp@www.taiyolabs.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:31:00] *** Kernel86_ <Kernel86_!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[04:32:26] *** Kernel86 <Kernel86!~Kernel86@cpe-69-23-104-66.new.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:34:29] *** nighty- <nighty-!~cp@www.taiyolabs.com> has joined #haiku[04:40:32] * waddlesplash has entered the dangerzone[04:43:25] <scottmc> dangerzone?[04:43:34] <waddlesplash> I'm trying to get the userguide thingy to export[04:43:44] <scottmc> ah[04:43:45] <waddlesplash> so far: machine 1, waddlesplash 0[04:43:56] * waddlesplash tries a stranger method[04:44:22] <scottmc> how do you get haikuporter to build x86 when on a gcc2h system?[04:45:11] <waddlesplash> scottmc: add _x86 to recipe name[04:45:20] <waddlesplash> scottmc: e.g. libqt4_x86[04:46:46] <scottmc> oh. ok[04:48:09] <scottmc> clockwerk has libjpeg in tree[04:49:11] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: nielx * hrev50925 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=7a3f3e096530+%5E7407e36a1063[04:49:12] <HAIKU-irker458> 7a3f3e096530: Update userguide translations, waddlesplash as nielx[04:49:17] * waddlesplash really really hopes that wasn't a huge mistake[04:51:02] <ohnx> quite the commit you have thre[04:51:14] <ohnx> -2567/+4859, 536 files changes[04:57:32] <waddlesplash> ohnx: yes, it's all the userguide changes since May 2016 to present[04:57:35] <waddlesplash> so, uh, a lot[05:00:20] <waddlesplash> and of course I have terrible luck and missed the 10:38 deadline by 11 minutes[05:00:24] <waddlesplash> so now I have to wait until 11:38[05:00:44] <ohnx> is that how often the thing builds?[05:01:32] <waddlesplash> no, git push sync to github[05:02:51] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-49.moscow.rt.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[05:11:29] <jessicah> oh, my friend runs a bunch of servers, he'll help me get a VM set up that we can run the package build master infra on[05:11:45] <jessicah> just mirror the repo itself[05:12:14] <jessicah> and I'll get free of charge :)[05:15:49] <waddlesplash> oh nice[05:15:52] <waddlesplash> v nice[05:23:04] <jessicah> a step closer, hopefully[05:26:40] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-49.moscow.rt.ru> has joined #haiku[05:27:29] *** LaceySnr <LaceySnr!mattlacey@CPE-120-147-195-43.gdiv2.lon.bigpond.net.au> has joined #haiku[05:28:00] <LaceySnr> Damn, no Jessicah[05:28:12] <jessicah> I'm here[05:28:15] <LaceySnr> oh yeah[05:28:15] <LaceySnr> duh[05:28:22] <jessicah> :p[05:28:23] <LaceySnr> I was looking in the user list and missed the ops :)[05:28:32] <jessicah> I has the powah[05:28:50] <LaceySnr> wanted to tell you that UEFI image booted on my machine ok :)[05:28:59] <jessicah> cool :)[05:28:59] <LaceySnr> well it did once I removed it from a USB 3 port[05:29:08] <LaceySnr> hung after around 60 seconds on the desktop[05:29:09] <jessicah> that usb 3...[05:29:23] <LaceySnr> but got there fine and was fast even with the framebuffer driver[05:29:41] <LaceySnr> networking wasn't working but I doubt that has anythign to do with UEFI[05:30:03] <jessicah> yeah[05:30:31] <jessicah> wifi?[05:30:59] <LaceySnr> nah ethernet[05:31:03] <LaceySnr> didn't seem like it had loaded a driver[05:31:04] <jessicah> I have a thunderbolt to ethernet adapter for my airbook[05:31:10] <LaceySnr> had no preferences or anything[05:31:14] <LaceySnr> this is just mobo on board[05:31:18] <jessicah> ah[05:31:24] <jessicah> not intel though?[05:31:48] <jessicah> intel stuff usually works[05:32:05] <LaceySnr> AMD CPU & chipset[05:32:05] <jessicah> it's a shame more hardware doesn't have thunderbolt[05:32:11] <jessicah> ick, amd :p[05:32:13] <jessicah> haha[05:32:14] <LaceySnr> think it's a broadcom networking setup[05:32:15] <LaceySnr> lol[05:32:25] <jessicah> thunderbolt is so good[05:32:45] <jessicah> I would be screwed for networking on my airbook if it didn't have thunderbolt[05:32:51] <jessicah> Just Works(tm) :p[06:19:17] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[06:28:31] <waddlesplash> jessicah: yeah, what are the plans to include UEFI in x64 image by default?[06:28:35] <waddlesplash> is that a to-do?[06:29:22] <Duggan> hej jessicah, waddlesplash, etc[06:30:15] <Duggan> waddlesplash she's working on it but there needs to be an automated way to generate the fat32 partition, put the loader and MBR on it, and include it in the image[06:32:19] <jessicah> mbr? doesn't need an mbr :p[06:32:30] <Duggan> or whatever it was you said it needed :P[06:32:35] <Duggan> partition table, whatever[06:32:43] <jessicah> yes[06:32:51] <Duggan> it's all the same :P[06:32:57] * Duggan waits to be corrected...[06:33:03] <jessicah> waddlesplash: don't think can easily automate a bios & uefi image[06:33:20] <jessicah> a uefi only image might be doable[06:34:08] <Duggan> how do CDs boot? is there a way to emulate that boot process?[06:35:32] <jessicah> and no, I'm not currently working on it[06:35:45] <jessicah> Duggan: CD requires UEFI specific stuff as well[06:35:55] <Duggan> oh :/[06:36:10] <jessicah> and since I haven't done that, I haven't been able to test CD boot at all[06:36:16] <Duggan> I thought someone said they were able to boot a BeOS R5 CD on an EFI machine[06:36:24] <jessicah> an anyboot should work[06:36:27] <jessicah> but not a plain ISO[06:36:36] <jessicah> that would've been in bios mode[06:37:02] <Duggan> bios mode never worked for me :/[06:37:06] <Duggan> I still needed the EFI file[06:37:07] <jessicah> certainly not with my uefi loader; it's 64-bit only[06:37:13] <jessicah> mm[06:37:53] <Duggan> is it possible to have a loader that attempts to boot EFI and if/when it fails, it redirects to a bios loader?[06:39:04] <Duggan> nah, I guess that wouldn't work because the way they are loaded is probably different enough...[06:39:24] <jessicah> no[06:39:36] <jessicah> once you've called ExitBootServices, you're on your own[06:40:05] <jessicah> anyway, I have no interest in that sort of work[06:40:45] <Duggan> I'm not sure what ExitBootServices entails, but if that's a UEFI function, it should fail well before that[06:41:09] <jessicah> that's in the haiku uefi loader[06:41:16] <jessicah> and yes, it's a UEFI function[06:41:25] <jessicah> and what does fail mean?[06:41:49] <jessicah> fail where?[06:42:19] <jessicah> anyway, I have no interest in jam-fu needed to make an image with both the bios loader & uefi loader[06:42:38] <jessicah> at most, I'll work on building an image for uefi[06:42:42] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #haiku[06:42:47] <Duggan> I haven't looked at the code at all, but I expect an attempt to call a UEFI function on a BIOS machine will cause some error in the processor which can be recovered from and jmp to bios boot code[06:43:00] <jessicah> that's not how it works[06:43:09] <jessicah> UEFI loads the loader[06:43:29] <jessicah> you're already in UEFI before you even load haiku_loader.efi[06:43:34] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:43:58] <Duggan> assuming it's a UEFI machine, yes, and everything boots nicely, assuming...[06:44:04] <jessicah> CSM is what UEFI firmware uses to emulate BIOS booting[06:44:17] <Duggan> yeah and it's apparently broke on my machine :/[06:44:21] <jessicah> on a non-UEFI machine, you wouldn't even get to haiku_loader.efi[06:44:45] <jessicah> the boot mechanisms are completely separate and not even remotely related[06:45:05] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[06:45:13] <Duggan> meh, I tried... I know nothing about how it works[06:45:50] <Duggan> just throwing ideas out there[06:47:22] <jessicah> I know what it would take to support both already[06:47:36] <jessicah> that's not the problem at all[06:48:06] <jessicah> 99% of the problem lies with the build system[06:48:34] <jessicah> it's not designed to allow building two boot loaders[06:48:58] <Duggan> aren't they more or less just executables?[06:49:16] <jessicah> that's not the problem[06:49:30] <jessicah> it needs to build targets twice[06:49:38] <jessicah> once for each loader[06:50:00] <Duggan> ok this is going to sound really stupid, but doesn't the system already do that for hybrids?[06:50:08] <jessicah> yes[06:51:21] <jessicah> still, not straight forward[06:52:14] <Duggan> fair enough[06:54:06] <Duggan> you're the expert ;)[06:56:22] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:a5ef:a49d:77b3:4b02:6e37> has left #haiku[07:19:01] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has joined #haiku[07:21:12] *** premoboss <premoboss!~utente@91.253.13.30> has joined #haiku[07:35:47] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:00:01] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d855747.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[08:00:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[08:00:54] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[08:01:32] *** premoboss <premoboss!~utente@91.253.13.30> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[08:06:33] <Duggan> hej korli, humdinger[08:06:57] <humdinger> Duggan! Still hacking...[08:07:24] <Duggan> no, had a meeting to attend, got back not long ago... probably will actually be going to bed soon[08:08:08] <Duggan> but at least I (supposedly) have a job[08:08:28] <Duggan> albeit it doesn't pay worth a damn and has no benefits, it's better than nothing I suppose...[08:09:11] <humdinger> incredible. a man of your talents...[08:09:24] <Duggan> but it does kind of give me some ideas for some vertical software to help their process, so I may have to boot into Windows sometime soon to get some work done there :'([08:09:48] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@apn-31-0-37-182.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #haiku[08:10:14] <humdinger> even punished for the effort.[08:10:16] <humdinger> not fair.[08:11:05] <Duggan> no, but even the simplest software for the right niche market sells for a premium if it increases productivity enough ;)[08:11:19] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9e7ef.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[08:12:19] <humdinger> Sneaky plan, Duggan! :)[08:12:24] <humdinger> sell them success and get rich[08:13:03] <Duggan> I won't be signing any documents with an IP clause for sure :P[08:15:25] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@75-172-58-158.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[08:16:00] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[08:19:34] <jessicah> I did that today[08:19:36] <jessicah> plus NDA[08:20:16] <Premislaus> Hello! Any idea how to make multiboot pendrive with jessicah uefi image? I managed to work hybrid mbr - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multiboot_USB_drive#Using_GRUB_and_loopback_devices - Bios, EFI 64-bit and EFI 32-bit. Works flawlessly in any mode I think (I tested Bios and EFI 64-bit). With some copy-pasting from internet I have menuentries for shutdown and reboot, with some luck I can load Ubuntu directly to lice cd (I don't[08:20:18] <Premislaus> know why there is not stnadard menu). Unfortunately I don't know how to load Haiku with this...[08:20:35] <Premislaus> *live[08:21:35] <Premislaus> I have only one flash stick, that I'm tinkering with it.[08:22:08] <Duggan> I really don't care so much about the NDA, I just need to keep my IP ;)[08:22:15] <Duggan> congrats jessicah btw :)[08:22:30] <Premislaus> And I do not trust DriveSetup, I need some tools, or other OS's for backup.[08:22:52] <jessicah> well, hopefully it goes through[08:24:07] <Duggan> hope so :) (mine too.... one thing's for sure, they ain't paying me enough to keep the rights to my IP, I'll be happy to walk if they try to get me to sign them away and won't take them out)[08:25:32] <Duggan> anyway, I think I'm off to bed... not sure what time they'll want me to come in tomorrow[08:25:45] <Duggan> (expect me back in a few minutes when I can't sleep :P )[08:43:32] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[08:47:47] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9e7ef.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[08:49:01] *** ChomAr <ChomAr!uid208546@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-emiuadsddocfvmdi> has joined #haiku[08:51:05] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[08:51:28] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9e679.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[08:51:50] <korli> humdinger: does this new comment sound like spam? https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/sound-card-but-no-sounds-from-speaker/4291/3[08:53:51] <humdinger> could be spam for that usermanual site...[08:54:10] <humdinger> we can flag and PM "naughty"[08:58:59] <korli> "Joined 27 mins ago"[08:59:01] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9e679.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[09:00:27] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vxzooyhasnemruja> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[09:00:40] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9c9df.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[09:01:42] <humdinger> korli: did you just flag, or PM the user?[09:02:00] <humdinger> I'm still not totally sure how it all works in discourse...[09:02:19] <humdinger> Right now it's only flagged, but still visible, right?[09:02:29] <korli> I flagged as spam[09:03:21] <humdinger> I can now a) agree , hide & PM the user, b) agree, c) delete spammer[09:03:31] <humdinger> I'm going with a), right?[09:04:38] <korli> yeah let's see then[09:07:34] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@apn-31-0-37-182.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:08:28] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-245-149.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[09:08:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[09:10:10] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9c9df.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:11:56] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4e35a1e9.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[09:12:39] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #haiku[09:19:22] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto_W3@77.79.212.94> has joined #haiku[09:41:05] *** e1z0__ <e1z0__!~textual@netlinux/founder/e1z0> has joined #haiku[09:42:47] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4e35a1e9.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:46:33] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9d9c5.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[09:51:58] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9d9c5.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:53:44] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9e5e0.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[09:55:28] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d855747.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:55:58] *** e1z0__ <e1z0__!~textual@netlinux/founder/e1z0> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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<Premislaus> Hello! Can someone know the path to EFI? I mean path to Haiku Loader on the EFI partition. I need it for chainloading.[15:02:39] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:08:57] *** AD_Haiku <AD_Haiku!~AD@5ec30d96.skybroadband.com> has joined #haiku[15:10:46] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[15:14:32] *** raefaldhia <raefaldhia!78bc225d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.120.188.34.93> has joined #haiku[15:20:39] *** AD_Haiku <AD_Haiku!~AD@5ec30d96.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[15:21:19] *** raefaldhia <raefaldhia!78bc225d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.120.188.34.93> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:27:53] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[15:41:13] *** amuck <amuck!~amuck@2001:19f0:8001:13b:5400:ff:fe3f:cad9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:41:56] <Premislaus> There is, somewhere, documentation of Haiku servers, especially app_server?[15:44:04] *** Raefaldhia <Raefaldhia!78bc225d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.120.188.34.93> has joined #haiku[15:44:39] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[15:45:39] *** amuck <amuck!~amuck@irc.harug.com> has joined #haiku[15:48:44] *** Raefaldhia <Raefaldhia!78bc225d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.120.188.34.93> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:52:39] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-ipsjdhjiooekttwk> has joined #haiku[16:09:01] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9cbcb.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[16:10:38] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9f587.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[16:10:57] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:17:54] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@194-118-37-242.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #haiku[16:19:06] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@194-118-37-242.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:19:45] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d855747.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[16:19:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[16:20:25] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[16:22:08] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9f587.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[16:25:17] <Premislaus> EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI - according to my previous question.[16:27:56] <ohnx> Premislaus: recommend you get an refi boot loader, like rEFInd[16:29:39] <Premislaus> ohnx: I'm making multiboot pendrive with various live CD's and tools like propertiary memtest (open source version does not work on uefi)[16:30:28] <Premislaus> ohnx: I made gybrid gpt, wth 3 partitions, mbr, 32 and 64 bit EFI. Third partition is with data.[16:30:31] <Premislaus> *hybrid[16:30:49] <ohnx> o.O lol[16:30:55] <Premislaus> ohnx: What is described on Arch Wiki.[16:31:08] <Premislaus> sorry this is Hybrid MBR[16:32:47] <Premislaus> Currently I have menu entires for shutdown, reboot, with some copy paste and luck I can directly start live CD with Ubuntu, but I don't know why there is no normal grub menu for Ubuntu. And Grub can't chainloading Haiku with this path.[16:34:17] <Premislaus> After googlefest I found how to mount jessicah image on Linux... sudo losetup /dev/loop0 /home/premislaus/Pobrane/uefi-x86_64-haiku.image -o $((40 * 512))[16:34:36] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9f47c.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[16:35:55] <Premislaus> 40 is initial sector, and 512 is cluster size[16:37:29] <Premislaus> OK reboot and try...[16:37:33] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:39:38] *** stargate1 <stargate1!~stargater@x4db9caf0.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[16:39:53] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9f47c.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[16:47:13] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[16:48:25] <Premislaus> No luck...[16:52:05] *** stargate1 <stargate1!~stargater@x4db9caf0.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:54:01] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9dbaa.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[16:54:49] *** xemdetia_ <xemdetia_!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-cuuswlrzgkeejlqd> has joined #haiku[16:57:48] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: korli * hrev50926 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d0a92cb6536f+%5E7a3f3e096530[16:57:49] <HAIKU-irker458> d0a92cb6536f: x86: added a MSR definition.[16:57:53] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-ipsjdhjiooekttwk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[16:58:14] *** xemdetia_ is now known as xemdetia[16:59:15] *** utente_ <utente_!~utente@91.253.175.130> has joined #haiku[17:00:09] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9dbaa.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:02:13] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4e35a79d.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[17:08:35] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4e35a79d.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:10:27] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-upnnfumrtrjmjrix> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[17:10:29] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@82-132-230-28.dab.02.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:10:30] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9f29a.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[17:15:25] *** bitkid_ <bitkid_!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[17:15:57] <Duggan> humdinger BeOS didn't even have a notification server, right?[17:16:09] <humdinger> it didn't[17:16:17] <Duggan> didn't think so[17:17:06] <Duggan> I haven't looked at the new one yet, but I've been following along in the ML[17:17:54] <Duggan> apparently I won't be able to fix this issue in my program until I whine about it, anybody want to listen? :P[17:18:15] <humdinger> I listen. can't help though probably[17:18:21] <Duggan> lol[17:18:35] <Duggan> menuitems aren't sending messages for some reason...[17:19:34] <Duggan> some parts of the program they are but in my BPopUpMenu (context) they're not... as part of a BMenuField they are, just not as a standalone context menu[17:20:07] <humdinger> their target's not "this"?[17:21:06] <Duggan> not sure what it is, but they're constructed in the main window and I don't see anything in the code where I specify explicitly, so it should be whatever they default to[17:22:40] <Duggan> the menus are popping up, but the items aren't sending messages (and sendmessage is true when displaying the menu)[17:23:20] <humdinger> I have a "menu->SetTargetForItems(Looper());" before menu->Go().[17:23:45] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev50927 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=75b219d35a94+%5Ed0a92cb6536f[17:23:46] <HAIKU-irker458> 75b219d35a94: ReadMe & docs: The Haiku Book has moved to www.haiku-os.org/docs/api.[17:24:03] <Duggan> hrm, let me try that... thanks[17:24:38] <Duggan> humdinger that did it, thanks :D[17:24:43] <humdinger> cool[17:24:52] *** utente_ <utente_!~utente@91.253.175.130> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[17:25:35] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: GeneralDuke)[17:27:19] <Duggan> didn't see anything like that in the code I looked at and no reference to needing to do it in the BeBook[17:28:33] <humdinger> I'm not a real programmer, but search the Haiku trunk for whatever I need. That results in all kinds of problems as well, of course...[17:35:18] *** bitkid_ <bitkid_!~bitkid@92.62.199.162> has joined #haiku[17:36:47] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-cuuswlrzgkeejlqd> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:36:48] *** xemdetia_ <xemdetia_!~xemdetia@129.42.208.167> has joined #haiku[17:40:31] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has quit IRC (Quit: Off for now)[17:41:15] <Duggan> humdinger yeah, I tend to look at the apps that are installed and if they have what I need I look at their source... but they're usually much more complicated than I need too so I have to try to reverse engineer them[17:41:20] <Duggan> not the most efficient way[17:41:25] <Duggan> sometimes I just look at the source of the control[17:42:05] <humdinger> hey, the name of your app isn't completely unique: https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=codepal[17:42:46] <humdinger> CodeFiend is available...[17:45:09] <Duggan> mine's the only one written in C++ so it's the only one that's valid[17:47:08] <Duggan> who's Dmitriy?[17:47:59] <Duggan> he watched and starred CodePal... looks like he's got some other Haiku related stuff too[17:49:24] <humdinger> Don't know him that well. I know he did some Russian translations.[17:52:26] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:59:35] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[17:59:43] <Duggan> humdinger ah ok[18:01:47] *** Klima <Klima!~Klima@static-78-8-176-191.ssp.dialog.net.pl> has joined #haiku[18:08:33] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@80.169.113.154> has joined #haiku[18:16:10] *** kaiser <kaiser!uid203960@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lhgprtqbvxukgqrf> has joined #haiku[18:34:24] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.69.98.177.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[18:34:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[18:40:31] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[18:46:03] *** stux|work <stux|work!stux@cosmo.lunarshells.com> has joined #haiku[18:49:32] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[18:52:08] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@80.169.113.154> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:54:46] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:a5ef:c992:9ec2:ffb2:39c3> has joined #haiku[18:57:23] *** geoid_ <geoid_!~geoid@95.131.217.194> has quit IRC (Quit: Be back later ...)[18:57:55] *** geoid_ <geoid_!~geoid@95.131.217.194> has joined #haiku[18:59:17] <Premislaus> Is possible to install Refind under Haiku or I must to have Linux for it? In instruction is described that I must run efibootmgr - is is available on Haiku?[19:01:15] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p2003005B4413EA00022314FFFEAF6410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)[19:02:22] *** geoid_ <geoid_!~geoid@95.131.217.194> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[19:03:22] <tqh> efibootmanager is not available in Haiku.[19:03:57] <Premislaus> tqh: thanks[19:04:09] <tqh> You can probably use the system bios/firmware UI to add efi apps as well[19:04:21] <Premislaus> tqh: Is better to use Refind than Haiku BootManager to dual boot?[19:04:39] <Premislaus> tqh: I don't have efi shell.[19:05:09] <tqh> It's the system menus. But it is usually very cryptic.[19:05:22] <tqh> Refind is probably better.[19:05:38] <Premislaus> tqh: No, my EFI is very primitive.[19:06:13] <tqh> ok[19:06:55] <Premislaus> tqh: BTW I tried to make multuboot pendrive with various iso and tools, but I have no luck with grub (installed on pendrive) chainloading Haiku EFI.[19:08:48] *** geoid_ <geoid_!~geoid@87.86.211.2> has joined #haiku[19:10:13] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:20:18] <PulkoMandy> Duggan: not sure what you try to do with menus, but BOptionPopUp may be what you are after[19:20:33] <PulkoMandy> (it exists in R5 but is missing from the Be Book)[19:21:36] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[19:24:38] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@82-132-221-26.dab.02.net> has joined #haiku[19:26:10] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9f29a.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[19:27:56] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9eb15.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[19:31:46] *** geoid_ <geoid_!~geoid@87.86.211.2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:32:38] *** return0e_ <return0e_!~return0e@178-78-68-13.static.kc.net.uk> has joined #haiku[19:33:32] *** bitkid_ <bitkid_!~bitkid@92.62.199.162> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[19:35:55] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~Eryk07.06@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[19:36:09] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~Eryk07.06@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:36:42] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~vision@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[19:38:41] <humdinger> Duggan: I had to do some changes to build under 32bit. Want a diff, or do I have to go through the trouble of a PR?[19:39:14] <Premislaus> I have some questions. During installation I created EFI partition, I formated it to fat32. Haiku Installer do not copy efi files on that partition. Haiku Bootmanager does not work on EFI computers. Without pendrive with Haiku image I can't boot. I tired to copy efi files from pendrive on efi partition, bud this not work.[19:39:38] <Premislaus> Any idea why Haiku after installation uses almost 6 GiB of space?[19:44:55] <PulkoMandy> it should be just a copy of what you have on the USB[19:45:04] <PulkoMandy> maybe jessicah included some extras in her image[19:45:33] <Premislaus> PulkoMandy: No extras.[19:46:00] <Premislaus> PulkoMandy: No Mesa in default.[19:46:43] <Premislaus> PulkoMandy: There are two partitions on USB fat32 with Efi and second with Haiku installer[19:47:10] <humdinger> PulkoMandy: could you, when you find the time, write a little post (forums or hp mailinglist) on how you'd like contributions to the "release" branch of haikuports?[19:47:16] <Premislaus> PulkoMandy: I set 4096 (4 KiB) cluster size .[19:47:22] <humdinger> I'm a bit unsure wrt the use of git...[19:47:45] <humdinger> esp. when it comes to move stuff around between branches[19:48:07] *** cucujoidea <cucujoidea!b20a0935@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.10.9.53> has joined #haiku[19:50:46] *** begasus <begasus!~begasus@ptr-4p6jpinde0njcrzg43e.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[19:52:35] <begasus> 'lo peeps[19:52:41] *** begasus is now known as Begasus[19:52:59] <humdinger> El Begasos![19:53:08] <Begasus> humdinger ! :)[19:53:17] <Begasus> how's it going here?[19:53:48] <humdinger> quite quiet[19:55:16] <Begasus> sorry for not having the time to look deeper into some of the stuff that could use some fixes :/ time is not easy these days :)[19:56:36] <humdinger> breats feeding puppies is time consuming...[19:57:03] <Premislaus> PulkoMandy Swap uses 6 GiB.[19:59:48] <Begasus> well mom takes care of thing for now ;) so the busiest part is yet to come ;)[20:01:57] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~vision@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[20:02:22] <Begasus> about the beta1 freeze .. what would be the best hrev to check out if things need updates/changing?[20:03:23] <humdinger> the Beta freeze seems to be postponed...[20:03:36] <Begasus> ah k[20:04:00] <humdinger> no sense without the buildbots running.[20:04:22] <humdinger> and some KDLs or BFS issues makes running those buildbots a chanllange too.[20:04:27] <Begasus> atleast with the libpng change (for me) it sounds ok .. still some things need to be resolved ...[20:04:40] <Begasus> yeah, saw it on the ML[20:05:47] <Begasus> some packages still missing in the depot ...[20:05:57] <humdinger> I still hope that some professional sysadmin steps up, with a server in the basement to set everything up...[20:06:30] <humdinger> if the Haiku admins reappear, things can be migrted to "official" servers, I suppose.[20:07:25] <Begasus> maybe someone could create a post that could be shared (on social media for instance), maybe someone could step up to it ...[20:07:59] <humdinger> I'm not sure that my opinion/hope is universally shared.[20:08:12] <Begasus> ;)[20:08:19] <humdinger> the people knowing more have to decide to do that[20:09:29] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~vision@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[20:09:38] <Begasus> wb Premislaus[20:10:24] <Premislaus> Begasus wb?[20:10:34] <Begasus> 'welcome back' *[20:12:22] <Premislaus> Strange. EFI partition is always FAT32. When I create EFI partition and do not format it, DriveSetup see it as efi partition. In any case Haiku needs external bootloader.[20:16:39] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:16:41] *** AD_Haiku <AD_Haiku!~AD@5ec30d96.skybroadband.com> has joined #haiku[20:20:09] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9eb15.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:21:52] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9e02d.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[20:22:16] <humdinger> Duggan: you're probably getting fired at your new job in this moment... when you're though: http://sprunge.us/jfbf[20:22:47] <humdinger> Duggan: this is the diff to make CodePal compile under 32bit gcc5. Plus simplified Makefile.[20:23:08] <humdinger> Duggan: take whatever you want.[20:23:34] <humdinger> That's "when you're though: http://sprunge.us/jfbf" above...[20:23:39] <humdinger> *back[20:23:51] <humdinger> damn it. 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mesa: bump version.[21:15:13] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] korli d45fb5e - libwebp: bump version.[21:15:15] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] korli e0e7c9c - libmwaw: bump version.[21:15:16] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 5f7f8e6 - lua: bump version.[21:17:19] *** not_groepaz is now known as compyx[21:21:17] *** cucujoidea <cucujoidea!b20a0935@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.10.9.53> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[21:26:22] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev50928 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1de2d7281247+%5E75b219d35a94[21:26:23] <HAIKU-irker458> 1de2d7281247: Partially revert "ReadMe & docs: The Haiku Book has moved to www.haiku-os.org/docs/api."[21:34:37] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~vision@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[21:36:39] *** rgb <rgb!8166fef9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.102.254.249> has joined #haiku[21:42:51] *** bitkid_ <bitkid_!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #haiku[21:43:38] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9c5ac.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:46:33] <rgb> hi all, i need rotate on a BView some lines (drawed with FillRect) need to use BShape class ?[21:50:41] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9e765.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[21:52:02] *** Klima <Klima!~Klima@static-78-8-176-191.ssp.dialog.net.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Quiit...)[21:53:41] <PulkoMandy> rgb: hi, you can also use BAffineTransform and BView::SetTransform[21:55:01] <rgb> thanks PulkoMandy, nice to see api similar of OSX :)[22:02:09] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[22:02:10] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9e765.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:02:59] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@5ec14eb1.skybroadband.com> has joined #haiku[22:03:19] *** HaikuUser is now known as kentahaiku[22:04:04] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9d9b7.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[22:05:39] <PulkoMandy> waddlesplash: how do I promote my blog posts to the front page with the new website?[22:05:48] <waddlesplash> PulkoMandy: all blogposts are on the frontpage[22:05:56] <waddlesplash> front page is now news + blogposts[22:06:23] * waddlesplash couldn't think of any case where we wouldn't want this to be the case[22:06:33] <waddlesplash> if it ever arises, I can implement it[22:07:00] <PulkoMandy> oh, ok :)[22:07:22] <PulkoMandy> well we used to have more "personal" stuff in the blogs but yes, not too much activity these days[22:08:09] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9d9b7.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:08:57] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4e35a26e.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[22:13:42] *** Barrett_ <Barrett_!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[22:13:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett_[22:14:40] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:40:06] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@82-132-221-26.dab.02.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:40:09] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4e35a26e.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:42:39] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@82.132.184.207> has joined #haiku[22:44:35] *** Guma <Guma!~Guma@c-73-211-254-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[22:44:48] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:50:51] *** premislaus <premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[22:52:52] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/647fa36be7c5...159bfcf75c15[22:52:53] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] pulkomandy 159bfcf - Activity report for January.[22:55:17] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4e35a5ac.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[22:59:08] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/159bfcf75c15...e2f63f0f0e83[22:59:10] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] pulkomandy e2f63f0 - Add note about Pootle and userguide translator updates.[22:59:43] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-178-012-099-109.178.012.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:00:08] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4e35a5ac.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:01:26] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4e35a7f9.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[23:01:41] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.69.98.177.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[23:03:04] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/e2f63f0f0e83...210f2e592a57[23:03:05] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 210f2e5 - 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