January 19, 2017 
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<bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:15:37] <Duggan> jessicah I fixed one of the issues in PIT, feel free to download, test, and USE it :P[01:22:15] <Duggan> PulkoMandy, likewise ;)[01:32:26] *** Sue <Sue!~sue@unaffiliated/sue> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[01:37:52] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@ip68-103-222-187.ks.ok.cox.net> has joined #haiku[01:47:49] <Duggan> gonna take a break from my usual work and do some more x86 machine language for a bit I think :P[01:56:17] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-83-127-199.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:56:34] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-167-201-59.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #haiku[01:56:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[02:04:21] *** ignacio is now known as xD[02:04:25] *** xD is now known as ignacio[02:09:12] *** earthnat1ve is now known as earthnative[02:21:38] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> 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*** xemdetia <xemdetia!~xemdetia@129.42.208.174> has joined #haiku[03:48:37] *** Guma <Guma!~Guma@c-73-211-254-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[03:49:02] *** jrabbit <jrabbit!~jack@unaffiliated/jrabbit> has joined #haiku[03:52:05] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:a5ef:1858:1676:cae3:2dc6> has joined #haiku[03:52:13] *** FlyingJester <FlyingJester!~Kashyyyk@2602:306:31c4:2820::3e9> has joined #haiku[04:10:55] <Skipp_OSX> hi jstressman[04:23:51] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[04:31:50] *** Nycatelos <Nycatelos!~Nycatelos@unaffiliated/illusional> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:32:55] *** Nycatelos <Nycatelos!~Nycatelos@unaffiliated/illusional> has joined #haiku[04:37:15] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has joined #haiku[04:38:39] <ohnx> Duggan: x86 machine lnaguage? :o[04:38:45] <ohnx> or just assembly? :o[04:43:25] <Duggan> machine language[04:43:39] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:44:04] <Duggan> ohnx, I got skillz ;)[04:44:13] <ohnx> ok[04:44:19] <Duggan> useless skills, but skills nonetheless[04:44:38] <ohnx> i can just imagine you having this page open[04:44:38] <ohnx> http://ref.x86asm.net/coder64.html[04:44:39] *** kallisti5 <kallisti5!~kallisti5@66.187.72.34> has joined #haiku[04:44:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o kallisti5[04:44:44] <ohnx> and entering random numbers in lol[04:44:44] *** SMCollins <SMCollins!~vision@c-68-41-4-65.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[04:44:54] <SMCollins> hello peoples[04:45:08] <Duggan> hey SMCollins[04:45:39] <Duggan> ohnx, no, but that page might be handy :P I always just used the IA-32 reference books (Vol 2 is the instruction reference)[04:46:13] <SMCollins> heh, the motorola bluebook was my bible back in the day[04:46:14] <SMCollins> lol[04:46:43] <Duggan> I actually have the IBM PC & PS/2 bluebook right next to me[04:47:26] <Duggan> the go-to guide for all your BIOS interrupt needs :D[04:47:53] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!~xemdetia@129.42.208.174> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[04:47:57] <SMCollins> why or why would you need to know that in the post ISA world ?[04:48:49] <Duggan> because it's easier to get started with that :P you missed the part where I stated I'm writing x86 machine language[04:49:06] <SMCollins> I really need to get my ass into some school and get a CS degree so I can change careers[04:49:25] <SMCollins> why in the fuck are you writing x86 machine language, what for ?[04:49:33] <Duggan> because I can B)[04:49:43] <SMCollins> Are you inlining for a performance gain ?[04:49:47] <Duggan> nope[04:50:00] <SMCollins> I doubt most assembler would be faster then compiled C++ using the STL anywyas[04:50:12] <Duggan> than*[04:50:12] <SMCollins> you must be a masocist[04:50:25] <Duggan> no, just that awesome B)[04:50:26] <SMCollins> you know, I tend to spell words how people say them[04:50:40] <Duggan> I say "than" in that usage[04:50:53] <SMCollins> everyone should speel for as fer , lol[04:51:07] <Duggan> hehe[04:51:09] <SMCollins> no, your right, its just most people sound the A like a E[04:51:42] <Duggan> I have this idea where I want to write an OS (for the fun of it) using no existing tools whatsoever, including an assembler[04:51:44] <SMCollins> I used to be super precise like that, didn;t make many friends, found it wasn;t worth the effort, just let it go[04:52:03] <SMCollins> I wish we could channel your energy into writing code for Haiku[04:52:07] <Duggan> programmers don't need friends, we have computers :P[04:52:19] <Duggan> I do write code for Haiku :/[04:52:23] <SMCollins> MORE CODE[04:52:25] <mattlacey> Code Your Own Friends™[04:52:26] <SMCollins> lol[04:52:30] <Duggan> lol[04:52:34] * Skipp_OSX cracks the whip[04:55:04] <Duggan> I already did one proof of concept where I displayed a text message on the screen... I wrote it in assembly, then used the IA32 manuals to manually convert it to machine language... wrote a little C program that would take the opcodes as literals and put them in a file, formatted as a bootable floppy, then booted it in QEMU and it worked... first try...[04:55:33] <SMCollins> Duggan, sounds like your ready to conquer the world man[04:55:45] <Duggan> of course that was years ago... but it proved it worked... so the next step is to format a hd and put some programs on it like an assembler or at least a hex editor and build up from there[04:55:46] <SMCollins> I gotta get to bed, it's late, I am tired and I am having trouble sleeping[04:56:01] <Duggan> aight, later SMCollins[04:56:23] <SMCollins> if you like assembly, HP Tuners is hiring engineers to reverse enginer factory ECU's, pays excellent[04:56:34] <Duggan> you know somebody there?[04:56:57] <Duggan> because I'm looking...[04:57:39] <SMCollins> I used to, but I don't know enough about you to make a recomendation, don't take that personally.[04:57:48] <Duggan> nah, it's all good[04:57:52] <SMCollins> My advice, contact them[04:58:23] <SMCollins> don;t know what they are looking for, they write a binary editor and ecu rom flashing program and have windows, website, revsre engineering etc, they are always hiring afaik[04:58:44] <SMCollins> peace out peeps[04:58:48] *** SMCollins <SMCollins!~vision@c-68-41-4-65.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[05:10:34] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@97-113-127-153.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[05:22:34] <jessicah> hey mattlacey[05:29:02] <mattlacey> hey there :)[05:31:15] <jessicah> (:[05:31:43] <Duggan> hi jessicah[05:35:13] <jessicah> hey Duggan :)[05:36:18] <ohnx> Duggan: teach me your ways :o[05:37:26] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[05:38:00] <jessicah> ohnx: don't you have exams to prep for?[05:38:17] <ohnx> interesting that you bring that up[05:38:23] <ohnx> did i say that i had exams to prep for?[05:38:35] <jessicah> pretty sure you did a day or two ago[05:38:38] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[05:38:42] <ohnx> ah lol[05:38:45] <ohnx> i do have exams[05:38:52] <ohnx> my first one is tomorrow, i'm going skiing :>[05:38:54] <ohnx> gym[05:39:14] <jessicah> you have an exam for gym?[05:39:40] <jessicah> I've never been skiing before[05:40:31] <ohnx> the "exam" is going skiing :p[05:40:37] <ohnx> visit canada, jessicah ! :D[05:41:09] <jessicah> we have ski fields here[05:41:13] <jessicah> I just never been before[05:41:16] <jessicah> also, ugh, cold[05:41:17] <ohnx> Duggan: how does one even begin to start programming in machine language[05:41:18] <jessicah> :p[05:41:19] <ohnx> ah ok[05:41:25] <ohnx> pfft i love the cold :)[05:41:37] <jessicah> reading the instruction manuals[05:42:40] <ohnx> D: but i'm a millenial! I don't like to read![05:43:07] <jessicah> :p[05:43:17] <jessicah> run a program through objdump? ;)[05:43:27] <jessicah> it'll give you the mnemonics and the raw bytes[05:44:04] <ohnx> ik but the elf is so confusing[05:44:11] <ohnx> i can only understand raw[05:44:58] <jessicah> heh, elf isn't all that magical[05:45:09] <ohnx> ik but like the bss and text and data sections[05:45:10] <ohnx> so confusing[05:45:27] <ohnx> also position independent code or whatever it's called makes it harder to understand[05:45:37] <ohnx> i thought of making my own isa :>[05:46:03] <jessicah> text and data are basically the same thing[05:46:16] <ohnx> what's bss?[05:46:21] <Duggan> ohnx like I said, it's pretty simple...[05:46:21] <ohnx> also i don't like memory protection[05:46:22] <jessicah> just one is writable and the other nowadays is not[05:46:35] <jessicah> elf doesn't imply memory protection[05:46:46] <jessicah> my kernel used elf and didn't really use memory protection[05:47:07] <ohnx> your ocaml thing?[05:47:10] <jessicah> yeah[05:47:16] <jessicah> bss is zeroed data[05:47:19] <Duggan> it's just tedious... you have to keep in mind that if you're booting a program, you only have whatever functions BIOS gives you (no DOS interrupts or anything like that) so you need a good BIOS interrupt reference (the bluebook is great if you can find one)[05:47:21] <jessicah> iirc[05:47:46] <jessicah> so it takes up no space in your program image[05:47:53] <ohnx> oh k[05:47:58] <ohnx> i can probably look it all up :p[05:48:06] <jessicah> since writing a bunch of zeroes is rather pointless[05:48:28] <Duggan> with that in mind, you write a program in assembly (using nothing but BIOS interrupts to interact with the computer) and manually assemble using the IA32 instruction reference manual[05:48:50] <ohnx> ah ok[05:48:55] <ohnx> i'll start with that :)[05:49:07] <ohnx> and the reference website ?[05:49:12] <ohnx> use that right[05:49:32] <Duggan> it's pretty much a copy of the IA32 reference, but you need to know how to interpret it[05:49:38] <Duggan> (vol 1 of the reference manual)[05:49:53] <ohnx> how many pages is it[05:50:02] <ohnx> or, how many trees would i kill by printing it out?[05:50:04] <Duggan> note: that's for old style BIOS computers[05:50:32] <Duggan> a few thousand pages... I DO have a set of all 3 in dead tree (Intel sent them to me for free)[05:50:45] <Duggan> but you can download PDFs from Intel's website for free anyway[05:50:48] <jessicah> it's more than 3 books now[05:51:02] <jessicah> the copy I have is 4 or 5[05:51:03] <Duggan> jessicah it's still 3, they're just split up more[05:51:11] <ohnx> haha they keep adding extensions, though, don't they?[05:51:11] <Duggan> 1A, 1B, etc[05:51:15] <ohnx> like sse[05:51:15] <Duggan> yep[05:51:20] <jessicah> well, 3 volumes[05:51:40] <Duggan> and it's specific to Intel HW so some specific things may not be applicable to all chips, but generally most of it is[05:52:01] <jessicah> sse, sse2, sse3, ssse I think, avx, avx2, avx512...[05:52:06] <jessicah> pretty sure there are more[05:52:28] <Duggan> but generally most of it applies to all IA32 compatible chips*[05:52:39] <Duggan> by now there probably are :)[05:53:26] <Duggan> ohnx: http://wiki.osdev.org[05:53:41] <Duggan> especially http://wiki.osdev.org/Boot_Sequence to help get you started[05:53:57] <ohnx> yeah i looked at mikeos a few years ago[05:54:23] <Duggan> you COULD write a program for an existing OS with machine language, but there's a LOT more involved because you have to interface with the OS... so it's easier just to start from scratch to be honest[05:54:47] <ohnx> yeah assembly programming for oses is so confusing[05:55:02] <ohnx> especially since many of them were written in c and syscalls are weird[05:55:05] <Duggan> I want to write an OS (as a personal project) using no existing tools... including an assembler... I'd like to eventually write all that myself from the ground up[05:55:24] <jessicah> I started writing an elf linker in ocaml[05:55:31] <jessicah> never got around to finishing it[05:55:55] <ohnx> what kind of language is ocaml?[05:56:24] <jessicah> primarily functional[05:56:29] <jessicah> but it's more pragmatic[05:56:34] <jessicah> and not lazy & pure like haskell[05:56:55] <ohnx> ok[05:56:56] <jessicah> it has an object type system as well, but not like C++ family of OO[05:57:00] <Duggan> ohnx once you have the program written and converted, write a little program in c that takes all the hex as literals and writes it to a binary file, writing 0x55 and 0xAA at bytes 510 and 511 (that tells the BIOS that it's a bootable disk) then use that as a boot floppy in a VM like QEMU[05:57:07] <ohnx> manual mem?[05:57:27] <jessicah> no, garbage collected[05:57:47] <ohnx> you had to write a gc then?[05:58:31] <jessicah> no, just write enough C stubs for it to link against[05:58:38] <jessicah> pretty simple really[05:58:51] <ohnx> lol ok[05:59:19] <jessicah> once you grok how linkers work :p[05:59:46] <jessicah> can just write stubs that call a panic() function that you wrote[06:00:02] <jessicah> when you hit a panic(), then you're like "hmm, now I need to implement this function"[06:00:05] <ohnx> jessicah: have you gum[06:00:06] <jessicah> and so forth[06:00:16] <jessicah> what now[06:00:28] <ohnx> uhh sec[06:01:29] <ohnx> have you guys picked the winners yet *[06:01:52] <jessicah> oh I haven't voted yet[06:01:57] <jessicah> I guess I should get on that[06:02:03] <ohnx> oh lol[06:02:09] <ohnx> sugar picked their winners today i think[06:02:56] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-100-216.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[06:03:59] <jessicah> still got 5 days to choose, I have time :p[06:04:11] <ohnx> haha lol[06:04:58] <AlienSoldier> any reason why we never got another qupzilla version. That one is crashy as hell[06:05:10] <jessicah> ohnx: I don't see you in the top 10[06:05:19] <ohnx> oh noes! D:[06:05:22] <ohnx> no hoodie for me :p[06:05:35] <jessicah> :p[06:06:35] <ohnx> at least i get a tshirt! :)[06:07:55] <AlienSoldier> 1.8.6 vs 2.0.2 and that Haiku logo does not look official to me :) https://www.qupzilla.com/download[06:08:43] <ohnx> LOL[06:08:53] <ohnx> is there an actual haiku logo?[06:09:03] <ohnx> like i see the leaf h[06:09:11] <Duggan> the H with the [leaf/feather][06:09:19] <Duggan> I just see a leaf[06:10:09] <AlienSoldier> Duggan the leaf in the tracker when you open the about look less silly[06:10:22] <Duggan> ohnx http://flarerpg.org/ has the official logo[06:10:44] <Duggan> AlienSoldier About doesn't have any images[06:10:59] <AlienSoldier> yes, the logo with a H at least say haiku[06:11:44] <AlienSoldier> Duggan not about per se, in the tracker when the about window is open, there is an icon leaf (mapple)[06:12:05] <Duggan> oh ok I see[06:12:13] <Duggan> yeah that's a bit more leaf-like :)[06:12:41] <AlienSoldier> the one they used in the linki provided look like a cannabis logo look alike :)[06:12:49] *** savant_d <savant_d!~savant@178.162.117.40> has joined #haiku[06:13:00] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:186a:e60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:13:25] <Duggan> I don't know what it's supposed to look like, it just looks like a botched DIY logo to me[06:13:25] <jessicah> except cannabis is green...[06:13:34] <ohnx> lol[06:13:51] <jessicah> I have my own square haiku logo I use[06:14:16] <jessicah> https://haiku.jessicah.org/circle-of-leaf.png[06:14:17] <Duggan> "if MS paint did vector images"...[06:14:23] <jessicah> Duggan: haha[06:14:36] <Duggan> jessicah, cute :)[06:15:48] <jessicah> it's based off the haiku logo, with the gradients altered a little where appropriate[06:16:27] <jessicah> the H with leaf I guess is supposed to be modelled after the icon style Haiku uses[06:16:46] <Duggan> yep[06:16:48] <jessicah> I don't particularly like it that much though[06:17:07] <jessicah> hence my cirlce-of-leaf logo[06:18:09] <Duggan> I like BeOS and it's an homage to that, so I kinda have to like it :P[06:18:13] *** pimenta <pimenta!~pimenta@177.182.224.82> has quit IRC ()[06:18:39] <jessicah> yes, but even the Be logo was better[06:18:52] <jessicah> the eye+ear design was very clever, IMO[06:20:47] <Duggan> oh is that what that was supposed to be? :P[06:24:12] <Duggan> if you search for BeOS on google images, I think there are actually more screenshots of Haiku than BeOS lol[06:25:16] <jessicah> https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.operating-system.org%2Fbetriebssystem%2Fbsgfx%2Fbeinc%2Fbeos45-logo-01.jpg&f=1 < yeah, that's an eye & ear[06:25:32] <jessicah> geist_: you must know that, right?[06:26:24] <Duggan> wait a second... wtf.... so I'm on google images where I searched for BeOS and in the upper right, it says "Try a fast, secure browser with updates built in. Yes, get Chrome now"..... so if I click on this, I assume Google has ported Chrome to Haiku x86_64...[06:26:37] <jessicah> haha[06:26:58] <Duggan> I'm in Haiku running Web+..... Google knows this....[06:27:01] <jessicah> how did you never realise that was an eye and ear?[06:27:18] <jessicah> not really, web+ tends to get recognised as safari =/[06:27:24] <scottmc> yeah, new technologoy where they port chrome to whatever OS you happen to be in when they display their ad[06:27:28] <jessicah> which was on purpose[06:27:40] <Duggan> lol scottmc[06:27:42] <jessicah> I'd like to see that changed =/[06:27:52] <Duggan> here goes...[06:27:56] * Duggan clicks[06:28:08] <scottmc> doesnt work... i tried it last week[06:28:20] <Duggan> "For Mac OS X 10.9 or later"[06:29:43] <Duggan> I should send them an email asking why they're wanting me to download their browser on a platform they don't support[06:30:14] <scottmc> and they will ask why does your brower lie to us?[06:30:20] <scottmc> browser[06:31:03] <Duggan> and I'll tell them it's not my fault :P besides, even if the browser reports itself as safari, why would they assume the OS is Macintosh? Safari is ported to other OSes as well[06:31:13] *** eschatologist <eschatologist!~chanson@c-73-189-131-221.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[06:32:21] <scottmc> why must i know how to specify each lib or command i need in a recipe? if I need perl i should just be able to put "perl", if it need sdl, "sdl" etc. No i need to put "lib:libsdl" or more...[06:34:25] <Duggan> beats me, I never worked on a recipe[06:34:51] <Duggan> I wouldn't mind getting a few things working on x86_64 though[06:36:12] <Duggan> hey somebody needs to have a lawsuit slapped on them... https://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&site=&source=hp&q=wonderbrush&oq=wonderbrush&gs_l=hp.3...13047.14189.0.14422.11.7.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..11.0.0.d7feYOhJso0&pbx=1[06:36:35] <scottmc> i'm getting back in i think, starting with ones that are giving error firt.[06:37:15] <Duggan> also, the yellowbites page still links to bebits[06:38:23] <scottmc> and the BeDrivers compatibilty hardware database...[06:38:38] <scottmc> man we took that offline a long time ago[06:41:47] <Duggan> is there a guide to haikuports/haikuporter/haikudepot/etc?[06:43:47] <scottmc> yes, https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports[06:43:53] <scottmc> click on th wiki[06:44:55] <Duggan> thanks[06:45:13] <scottmc> start with the "gentle guides"[06:47:06] <Duggan> thanks.... I'll probably work on one or two or however many to get them working on x86_64... whichever ones don't currently work anyway[06:48:56] <scottmc> many of then are broken because a dependency isn't built yet. There's been several new issues added by gci students who were testing them, that didn't realize they were failing for this reason. perhaps read through ome of those open issues and start trying to fix some of those[06:49:37] <scottmc> damn my n and m's jumped words then and ome[06:50:33] *** geist_ is now known as geist[06:53:19] <Duggan> scottmc sure, thanks[06:53:34] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[06:53:37] <Duggan> the thing is, people in my position HAVE to run x86_64 because of EFI[06:54:12] <Duggan> so either we need to find a way to build 32/64 bit hybrids or 64 bit needs to get a little more official[06:56:20] <Duggan> that being said, which is the preferred route?[06:56:56] <scottmc> make a list of the ones you need and then start crossing them off and you get them to build. might take a few weeks. That's where i started... i made a list of the lib in the old libpak on bebits. created .bep files for everyone of the ones i could get working[06:58:43] <Duggan> ok, so not a hybrid :) also, who maintains the depot these days?[06:59:19] <scottmc> not sure, check with humdinger or Pulkomandy?[07:00:41] <Duggan> alright... just thought I might suggest a little more queue support... there's no list of what you've recently installed or what is queued to be installed and that might be useful... especially since if you try to install a second package, the install button just greys out and theres no indication of how long it will take before you can queue additional items[07:02:06] <scottmc> i tried downloading one while one was still downloading and it wigged out, flashing crazy back and forth[07:02:26] <Duggan> wow I haven't seen that[07:02:27] <scottmc> like i stumbled into some sort of race condition[07:02:55] <Duggan> strange[07:04:26] <Duggan> I also need to find the abuse source and get it ported to x86_64...[07:06:13] <scottmc> abuse? was that open source?[07:07:23] <Duggan> yes, apparently it's public domain now[07:07:43] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:07:47] <Duggan> I used to run it on gcc4h[07:08:04] <Duggan> maybe it was only built on the BeOS and never actually ported to Haiku...[07:08:16] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[07:08:33] *** savant_d <savant_d!~savant@178.162.117.40> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[07:08:35] <scottmc> i had it long time ago on the wildcard CD when they were closing shop[07:10:30] <Duggan> I think I got it off of bebits[07:13:27] <Duggan> http://antonior-software.blogspot.de/2016/05/abuse-1996-sdl-port-09a.html[07:18:28] <PulkoMandy> hi[07:18:48] <PulkoMandy> Duggan: there are some plans to make an x86_64 build of beta1[07:19:22] <PulkoMandy> we didn't do it in alpha4 days because the port was very new at the time, but now we can consider it mature enough I think[07:19:43] <PulkoMandy> and we will soon (I hope) have an automated system to build the package repos, so that should be less of a problem too[07:20:01] <PulkoMandy> (that is, at least gcc2hybrid and x86_64 will stay mostly in syncà[07:23:34] <Duggan> hey PulkoMandy[07:23:51] <Duggan> PulkoMandy that is excellent :)[07:26:44] <scottmc> i forgot how fun the autotools were[07:32:31] <Duggan> hrm... i found a copy of the opentyrian hpkg for x86_64, but it won't install... complains it can't find lib:libsdl_net even though I installed the sdl_net package from the depot (I guess that's why opentyrian isn't in the depot for x86_64?)[07:33:40] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@ip68-103-222-187.ks.ok.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Eating pizza)[07:35:36] <PulkoMandy> my guess would be broken provides or requires on one side or another[07:35:49] <PulkoMandy> as for it not being in the depot, as I said I hope to have this automated soon[07:36:03] <PulkoMandy> at the moment it's entirely manual so you have to bug one of haiku devs until they do it[07:36:18] <PulkoMandy> which is just a waste of time for everyone[07:39:14] <Duggan> "If you move the system folder or its contents, you won't be able to boot Haiku!" - seen when trying to delete a symlink I created...[07:39:38] <Duggan> PulkoMandy anything I can do to help?...[07:46:45] *** x-y is now known as gcibot[07:46:47] *** gcibot <gcibot!ignacio@unaffiliated/ignacio> has quit IRC (Changing host)[07:46:47] *** gcibot <gcibot!ignacio@unaffiliated/ignaciouy/bot/gcibot> has joined #haiku[07:47:31] *** gcibot is now known as x-y[07:47:31] *** x-y <x-y!ignacio@unaffiliated/ignaciouy/bot/gcibot> has quit IRC (Changing host)[07:47:31] *** x-y <x-y!ignacio@unaffiliated/ignacio> has joined #haiku[08:01:43] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!alam@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[08:03:57] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!alam@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has joined #haiku[08:09:17] <Duggan> hey jessicah what can you tell me about Christchurch and NZ immigration laws? :P[08:12:31] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD74C4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[08:12:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[08:17:29] <jessicah> NZ immigration laws can be tough[08:17:37] <jessicah> as for christchurch, it's still being rebuilt[08:17:45] <jessicah> why do you want to go to christchurch?[08:18:04] <jessicah> but you should talk to Colin[08:18:07] <jessicah> he moved to NZ[08:18:16] <jessicah> haven't seen him very active lately though[08:18:20] <Duggan> I saw a job posting for a position there[08:18:46] <jessicah> I don't think Colin's been active since the last time he was at the last BG he could get to[08:18:56] *** raefaldhia <raefaldhia!6e889fab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.110.136.159.171> has joined #haiku[08:19:11] <Duggan> hm[08:19:40] <Duggan> know anything about corporate sponsorships by any chance? :P[08:20:10] <jessicah> nop[08:20:11] <Duggan> or the company ARANZ Geo?[08:20:12] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:20:15] <jessicah> nop[08:20:23] <Duggan> wouldn't hurt to ask :P[08:20:26] <jessicah> should move to palmy[08:20:32] <jessicah> I live in palmy :)[08:21:00] <Duggan> if you know somebody that'll sponsor me to get there, sure :P[08:21:05] <Duggan> I need a job :P[08:21:10] <jessicah> :)[08:21:42] <Duggan> (my 2nd degree is in geology, so I'm preferrentially looking for a job developing geology software)[08:22:10] <jessicah> :)[08:22:46] <jessicah> interestingly, I don't think christchurch felt much of our 7.8 quake[08:22:58] <jessicah> all the movement was northward[08:23:16] <jessicah> I had friends down there who apparently didn't feel it[08:23:18] <Duggan> 2011?[08:23:24] <jessicah> no, late last year[08:23:28] <Duggan> oh ok[08:23:31] <jessicah> the kaikoura quake[08:23:40] <jessicah> did you not hear about it?[08:23:51] <jessicah> it was a couple weeks before the quake off coast of japan[08:24:07] <Duggan> I probably did, but I probably forgot... I mean, it's literally on the other side of the world and I don't have a lot of connections there[08:24:17] <jessicah> it was news all around the world[08:24:37] <Duggan> and by "I don't have a lot of connections there", I mean you're the only person I know from NZ (that I know is from NZ) :P[08:26:00] <jessicah> http://info.geonet.org.nz/display/home/2016/11/14/M7.8+Kaikoura+Earthquake%3A+Latest+updates[08:26:01] <x-y> [ M7.8 Kaikoura Earthquake: Latest updates - Latest News - GeoNet ][08:26:24] <jessicah> some parts of the land moved about 10m[08:26:49] <jessicah> and some land raised about 2m, including raising seabed out of the sea[08:27:15] <jessicah> geologically, it's been one of the most fascinating earthquakes in recent times[08:27:32] <Duggan> yeah it sounds pretty awesome (from a scientific perspective)[08:28:13] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-100-216.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[08:29:05] <Duggan> most people know about Hurricane Katrina because 1: it hit the US and US news is everywhere and 2: it hit New Orleans.... problem is, we got it worse here, but nobody cares :P[08:32:38] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d854149.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[08:32:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[08:35:23] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[08:35:35] <Duggan> hej humdinger[08:36:04] <humdinger> Duggan! How goes?[08:36:24] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[08:37:10] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@181.41.210.237> has joined #haiku[08:37:10] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@181.41.210.237> has quit IRC (Changing host)[08:37:10] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has joined #haiku[08:38:34] <jessicah> Duggan: heh[08:38:41] <jessicah> Duggan: some of the video footage is stunning[08:38:46] <Duggan> humdinger it goes...[08:38:52] <jessicah> like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDnjsVH2jxU[08:38:54] <x-y> [ Kaikoura Earthquake 2016: Paptea Fault Rupture - YouTube ][08:39:04] <jessicah> to think that was under water before[08:39:23] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #haiku[08:39:41] <Duggan> jessicah I can't hear it :'([08:39:42] <jessicah> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L14RVCj2Lew[08:39:44] <x-y> [ Incredible drone footage of Kaikoura's devastated railway line - YouTube ][08:39:55] <jessicah> where the railway got ripped right off the coast[08:40:33] <jessicah> but yeah, amazing from a scientific point of view[08:40:51] <jessicah> and whole event lasted 2 whole minutes... longest quake I've ever been in[08:41:00] <jessicah> and holy god did the earth move...[08:41:12] <AlienSoldier> we get similar things here. wave and ice are diggin in the shore. The road will have to be moved far inland.[08:42:20] <Duggan> I felt an earthquake once, but it wasn't bad... probably will never be another one here in my lifetime[08:42:53] <FlyingJester> In Alaska, we'd get little tremors all the time. Kind of fun.[08:42:56] <jessicah> minor earthquakes are like a constant thing in NZ, but too small to notice[08:43:09] <Duggan> the closest active fault is the New Madrid, hundreds of miles away[08:43:30] <FlyingJester> There's a song about that one.[08:44:23] <humdinger> reading in the log... shall I ask the QupZilla guys to use this for Haiku instead? https://lut.im/SuMX9Qvlif/5HlaBqRvNsBICjpE.png[08:44:24] <x-y> 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'text'[08:44:53] *** johndrinkwater <johndrinkwater!~beta@steamdb/johndrinkwater.name> has joined #haiku[08:45:12] <humdinger> BTW, I send the flare guys that icon from BeGeistert.[08:45:17] <Duggan> humdinger I'm not sure... is there any sort of official "ok" they have to get to use it?[08:45:19] <humdinger> they added it within the hour.[08:45:26] <Duggan> nice[08:45:36] <Duggan> flare is pretty ok.... just waaaay too short :P[08:45:58] <humdinger> I started playing, but the got bored...[08:46:22] <Duggan> I can't find another map to go to after the three brothers or whatever it's called[08:46:23] <humdinger> MIght be because I "hacked" the settingsfile to get a gazillion gold...[08:46:33] <Duggan> haha could be[08:47:03] *** [Beta] <[Beta]!~beta@steamdb/johndrinkwater.name> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[08:48:22] <jessicah> haha[08:48:37] <jessicah> I walked around a little; I've never played those sorts of games[08:49:02] <AlienSoldier> humdinger ask them for a new port at the same time :)[08:49:11] <jessicah> I've watched friends play Diablo games[08:49:24] <jessicah> humdinger: not my circle of leaves logo? :p[08:49:38] <jessicah> I might hack Deskbar to use my circle of leaves logo :)[08:49:44] <jessicah> I have in HVIF format too (:[08:50:05] <humdinger> The "H" is nearer to the Haiku logo and appears more official, I think.[08:50:12] <humdinger> Maybe once Haiku is a household name...[08:52:11] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!6cad3e40@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.173.62.64> has joined #haiku[08:52:14] <Vidrep> Hi[08:52:26] <AlienSoldier> perhaps we should ask Toshiba to help finish haiku and have cheaper OS before they file for bankrupcy[08:52:29] <humdinger> hullo Vidrep[08:53:51] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, I created a ticket pertaining to USB scanners. Should I keep adding data for other manufacturers?[08:54:13] <Vidrep> Hi humdinger[08:57:56] <Vidrep> I have Haiku and Ubuntu on the same HDD, both using the same revision of SANE (1.0.25). Haiku cannot detect HP, while Ubuntu is able to.[08:59:14] <Vidrep> Time to go to sleep. I'll catch up later in the morning.[08:59:27] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!6cad3e40@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.173.62.64> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[08:59:28] * humdinger scans Vidrep's dreams[09:03:22] <Duggan> if you google "mining company" you get more websites for restaurants than you do companies that actually mine[09:05:59] <jessicah> :o[09:06:09] <jessicah> what does mining have to do with restaurants?[09:06:40] <Duggan> they're all called "xyz mining co."[09:06:47] <Duggan> you tell me why :/[09:07:37] <jessicah> ...[09:10:36] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[09:13:36] <Duggan> hmmm maybe Freeport McMoRan...[09:20:24] <humdinger> dear puckipedia, are you aware of open PRs to the CatKeysEditor? https://github.com/puckipedia/BeLocalized/pulls[09:20:25] <x-y> [ Pull Requests · puckipedia/BeLocalized · GitHub ][09:25:05] <Duggan> am I going insane and there really isn't such a thing as "Diamond Crystal Salt Company" or is there really absolutely NO reference to them on wikipedia?...[09:27:53] <humdinger> Duggan: Is that the one? https://frankmoore.com/diamond-crystal-salt-company/[09:27:54] <x-y> [ Diamond Crystal Salt Company – Frank Moore ][09:30:27] <Duggan> humdinger this one: https://www.diamondcrystalsalt.com/home[09:30:27] <x-y> [[09:30:28] <x-y> Home[09:30:28] <x-y> | Diamond Crystal® Salt ][09:30:48] <Duggan> would somebody mind booting the bot?[09:31:27] * humdinger gets his heavy shoes[09:34:20] *** Blub\w <Blub\w!~wry@unaffiliated/blubw/x-6625061> has joined #haiku[09:36:13] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[09:36:52] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #haiku[09:37:05] <Duggan> thanks, humdinger :)[09:38:43] *** x-y was kicked by jessicah (x-y)[09:38:48] <jessicah> there you go[09:39:16] <Duggan> thank you 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PulkoMandy whatever happened to Spruce's stuff?[18:54:18] <Duggan> I forgot his name... you know, Sawteeth and all that stuff[18:55:48] <Duggan> Jonas Norberg[19:00:09] <Duggan> haha... 2 things programmers underestimate: 1: how long things take us, 2: how long our code will be around, 3: how many things we underestimate[19:00:43] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p5DE538B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:14:27] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-100-216.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[19:35:20] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@dslc-082-083-031-185.pools.arcor-ip.net> has joined #haiku[19:35:30] <miqlas-H64> Yee, got it to work: http://chunk.io/f/a17c0072e127478aa27f57968a200466[19:37:07] <PulkoMandy> Duggan: sawteeth is on my github, as is Dynamate IIRC (or maybe on haikuarchives)[19:37:39] <PulkoMandy> for the rest, there is probably a http://pulkomandy.tk/drop/beos_sources.zip or similar if you want to sort through it and see what's recoverable[19:37:58] <PulkoMandy> I should also have the sources for \n somewhere on github I think[19:39:36] <Duggan> ah ok... thanks :) you have so many disjoint sites where you keep stuff... have you got an index somewhere that points to everything? :P[19:48:01] <Duggan> neat: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~pes20/cerberus/notes50-survey-discussion.html[19:53:22] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@178-78-68-13.static.kc.net.uk> has joined #haiku[19:55:44] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@dslc-082-083-031-185.pools.arcor-ip.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[20:02:26] <Duggan> jessicah: programming is 1% inspiration, 99% trying to get your environment working[20:03:39] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[20:04:51] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has joined #haiku[20:06:42] <bbjimmy> update yab-IDE with lots of small fixes. https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/1088[20:22:05] *** petterhj 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(2016-12-14): "We may even manage to squeeze it into the upcoming beta release" ![21:32:09] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.69.212.87.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[21:32:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[21:33:37] <[JJ]Albert> will 2017 be the year of the beta?[21:47:54] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.69.212.87.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:50:08] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@162-199-32-224.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #haiku[21:52:06] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~vision@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[21:52:25] <Premislaus> hello[21:55:26] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@162-199-32-224.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[21:59:03] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e36386f.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[22:01:55] *** mixomathoze <mixomathoze!~mixomatho@12.79-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has joined 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index root node.[22:16:42] <Skipp_OSX> whoa[22:17:54] <Skipp_OSX> looks like BFS is finally getting the love it deserves[22:18:37] *** qptain_Nemo <qptain_Nemo!~qN@37.204.239.206> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:20:03] *** qptain_Nemo <qptain_Nemo!~qN@37.204.239.206> has joined #haiku[22:25:05] <Premislaus> How can I log to forum? My old account on the mainpage is in "Read-only mode"?[22:25:35] <Premislaus> discuss did not recognize my nick[22:26:15] <Skipp_OSX> Premislaus, if you haven't logged in before to discuss, you'll have to reset your password in order to log in the first time[22:26:35] <Skipp_OSX> Premislaus, as far as the current site goes, yeah, read only and soon to be expunged[22:27:07] <Premislaus> https://discuss.haiku-os.org/users/Premislaus[22:27:22] <Premislaus> Skipp_OSX discuss do not send e-mails.[22:27:39] <Duggan> greetings[22:28:15] <Premislaus> Skipp_OSX thank you for reply[22:28:19] <Premislaus> Duggan Hi[22:28:51] <Premislaus> I cleand today my laptop and checked my RAM with memtest. Is ok. I'm currently waiting for random shutdowns :P.[22:30:19] <Premislaus> https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/10784[22:31:07] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@74.51.208.130> has joined #haiku[22:31:10] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[22:38:04] <Premislaus> jessicah I read the log. I think this is not ear and eye, probably, but earring with diamond in the ear of mr. Gasse. You can read - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Louis_Gass%C3%A9e[22:38:18] <Premislaus> *read about it[22:51:31] *** savant_d <savant_d!~savant@178.162.117.40> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:55:20] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports] korli created branch 2017Q1 - https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports[22:55:22] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 11 commits to 2017Q1 [+15/-14/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e5627c0816bc^...2e029fe71057[22:55:23] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] korli e5627c0 - flac: bump version.[22:55:25] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 7eb9837 - zlib: bump version.[22:55:26] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson fef5dff - zlib: bump to 1.2.10.[22:55:28] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] ... and 8 more commits.[22:56:41] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslc-082-083-031-185.pools.arcor-ip.net> has quit IRC ()[22:56:53] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: korli * hrev50885 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=534a53764087+%5E91cdfd96f872[22:56:55] <HAIKU-irker458> 534a53764087: Sync x86_64 packages with Haikuports 2017Q1 branch.[22:57:14] *** Duggan <Duggan!~Duggan@adsl-74-243-46-190.bix.bellsouth.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[22:57:35] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslc-082-083-031-185.pools.arcor-ip.net> has joined #haiku[23:01:02] *** xemdetia_ <xemdetia_!~xemdetia@129.42.208.174> has joined #haiku[23:02:44] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!~xemdetia@129.42.208.174> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[23:07:47] <Premislaus> My user agent is recognized as MacOs and Safari 8.0, not Haiku and WebPositive :-(.[23:10:50] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:11:42] *** Duggan <Duggan!~Duggan@adsl-74-243-46-177.bix.bellsouth.net> has joined #haiku[23:12:20] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslc-082-083-031-185.pools.arcor-ip.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:15:38] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:16:07] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:20:57] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-100-216.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:22:05] *** mixomathoze <mixomathoze!~mixomatho@12.79-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:23:38] *** johnny_b <johnny_b!~johnny@unaffiliated/johnny-b/x-2136417> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:23:52] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~vision@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:24:00] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~vision@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[23:24:32] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3256 of haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/3256[23:25:41] *** johnny_b <johnny_b!~johnny@193.6.128.171> has joined #haiku[23:35:46] *** johnny_b <johnny_b!~johnny@193.6.128.171> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[23:35:46] *** jua_ <jua_!~jua@xdsl-195-14-251-138.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:37:48] *** johnny_b <johnny_b!~johnny@193.6.128.171> has joined #haiku[23:43:48] <Duggan> hej johnny_b[23:48:38] *** qeos|2 <qeos|2!~kvirc@37.204.81.98> has joined #haiku[23:49:54] *** qeos <qeos!~kvirc@37.204.81.98> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:54:54] *** xemdetia_ <xemdetia_!~xemdetia@129.42.208.174> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:58:16] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@178-78-68-13.static.kc.net.uk> has quit IRC ()