January 16, 2017 
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January 16, 2017 [00:00:45] *** Perelandra <Perelandra!~Perelandr@h69-130-75-184.nansme.broadband.dynamic.tds.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My God, it's full of stars!)[00:22:19] *** Perelandra <Perelandra!~Perelandr@h69-130-75-184.nansme.broadband.dynamic.tds.net> has joined #haiku[00:29:42] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: jessicah * hrev50873 [3 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=79b9bd9f3766+%5Efdfd8a502e8d[00:29:43] <HAIKU-irker458> 939b40d65c56: Media preflet: fix runtime warning about incorrect flag usage.[00:29:44] <HAIKU-irker458> 9c7d2b466869: DefaultMediaTheme: improve watching for parameter value changes.[00:29:45] <HAIKU-irker458> 79b9bd9f3766: desklink: use media_server notifications instead of polling.[00:30:07] *** Miyu <Miyu!~hackkitte@HSI-KBW-149-172-240-159.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #haiku[00:30:29] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-166-35-201.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:30:47] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-157-15-225.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #haiku[00:30:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[00:33:05] *** hackkitten <hackkitten!~hackkitte@HSI-KBW-149-172-240-159.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:39:10] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-082-149-190-086.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[00:43:14] *** Miyu is now known as hackkitten[00:44:17] *** Guma <Guma!~Guma@2601:249:301:6a33:d00d:380f:b350:b48e> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:46:18] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: axeld * hrev50874 [3 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=83b4b8937b82+%5E79b9bd9f3766[00:46:19] <HAIKU-irker458> add77fd6377a: bfs: The disk clean/dirty flags were written with host endian.[00:46:20] <HAIKU-irker458> a2703be2fca8: bfs: Update old modified time if index is missing.[00:46:21] <HAIKU-irker458> 83b4b8937b82: bfs: Attribute creation now honors O_EXCL.[01:06:20] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kaxqzeqgmgynksxm> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[01:10:29] * Duggan yawns[01:15:03] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@178-78-68-13.static.kc.net.uk> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:25:03] *** LaceySnr <LaceySnr!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:25:21] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[01:28:39] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3246 of haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/3246[01:32:06] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-kyatjxcwtlhykqcm> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[01:46:35] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.175> has joined #haiku[02:20:08] <scottmc> any Google Code-In students still working on their last task?[02:20:44] <Duggan> me![02:21:26] <scottmc> besides Duggan[02:21:28] <scottmc> heh[02:21:30] <Duggan> :P[02:22:02] <scottmc> be careful or I'll pull you into mentoring next year[02:22:11] <Duggan> aw :([02:22:33] <Duggan> what in the world do you think I know enough about to mentor? :P[02:22:47] <scottmc> and you think i do? heh[02:22:52] *** ADS_Sr_ <ADS_Sr_!~ADS_Sr@cpe-173-175-17-54.hot.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[02:22:52] <Duggan> besides, you know how catastrophic it would be for the student...[02:23:13] <Duggan> you've seen the issues I face, my luck would probably rub off on them and they'd be cursed for life :P[02:24:56] *** ADS_Sr <ADS_Sr!~ADS_Sr@cpe-173-175-17-54.hot.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[02:25:06] *** ADS_Sr_ is now known as ADS_Sr[02:37:33] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[02:38:30] <scottmc> ww.nbc.com[02:38:56] <scottmc> wrong keyboard[02:42:12] <scottmc> ohnx ohnx` you gonna finish your last task?[02:43:36] <owenca> hi is there anything smaller than B_USE_SMALL_SPACING?[02:45:30] <scottmc> B_USE_HALF_ITEM_SPACING?[02:46:30] <scottmc> search in InterfaceDefs.h[02:46:32] <owenca> scottmc thx[02:46:39] <scottmc> there's a few options[02:47:57] <owenca> scottmc i need the smallest but not 0[02:49:19] <owenca> is there a predefined name smaller than B_USE_HALF_ITEM_SPACING?[02:49:25] <scottmc> B_USE_DEFAULT_SPACING = -2,[02:49:42] <scottmc> is the smallest i see.[02:50:15] <owenca> i will try it too but -2 < 0 though[02:51:52] <owenca> scottmc is B_USE_DEFAULT_SPACING same as not specifying spacing in layout?[02:52:07] <scottmc> yeah and the rest are all lower than 0[02:52:22] <scottmc> no idea, i'm just reading the enum in the header ;)[02:52:41] <owenca> i see. will try them all[02:53:03] <scottmc> it's likely the offset from the left side, so thus the negative number? not sure[02:53:26] <scottmc> that's what i would do, experiment and see what happens[02:53:32] <owenca> from what i read and tried 0 is smaller than default[02:54:01] <scottmc> and what happens if you put in a positive number?[02:55:39] <owenca> spacing grows[02:56:39] <owenca> DEFAULT > SMALL[02:58:25] <owenca> scottmc which header are they in?[02:58:47] <scottmc> look up... InterfaceDefs.h[02:59:08] <owenca> thx[02:59:19] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:186a:e60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:59:28] <owenca> it seems HALF_ITEM < SMALL[03:02:56] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #haiku[03:14:04] <Premislaus> Checksums do not match - https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/13210[03:27:44] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[03:39:55] <scottmc> Premislaus, checksum for gcc2 works fine for me. Perhaps you have a MITM?[03:41:04] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-nejuzkfhbswrafru> has joined #haiku[03:43:25] <Premislaus> scottmc: What is MITM?[03:43:38] *** Barrett_ <Barrett_!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:45:22] <Premislaus> scottmc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-in-the-middle_attack ??[03:52:12] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-nejuzkfhbswrafru> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[04:12:11] <owenca> scottmc i converted WheresMyMouse over to layout API[04:13:06] <owenca> Skipp_OSX has helped me a ton for the last few days[04:15:09] <Premislaus> scottmc: I downloaded current snapshot of openSUSE Tumbleweed and checksum matches.[04:16:09] <ohnx> scottmc: uhh i want to[04:16:12] <ohnx> but i'm not sure how[04:22:52] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[04:34:43] *** Perelandra <Perelandra!~Perelandr@h69-130-75-184.nansme.broadband.dynamic.tds.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My God, it's full of stars!)[05:01:26] *** phcoder <phcoder!~phcoder@127.223.194.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has joined #haiku[05:08:45] <scottmc> MITM man in the middle[05:10:31] <scottmc> @owenca cool. maybe you can take a look at Hare next? It needs layout fixed[05:13:58] <scottmc> Premislaus i'm checking the x86_64 one now, downloading with firefox on ubuntu[05:16:18] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.175> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[05:22:17] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[05:23:34] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[05:28:20] <Premislaus> scottmc: OK. I look at the log later. Currently I must to go. Bye![05:28:30] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[05:36:11] <scottmc> Premislaus both files have correct checksum for me. But i did have to try the x86-64 one twice. I stopped downloading part way through on my first attempt.[05:41:15] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-ruxetbcgedtwdkzn> has joined #haiku[06:02:13] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[06:06:59] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:23:22] * Duggan yawns[06:32:24] <jessicah> :p[06:42:48] <Duggan> :P[06:42:52] <Duggan> hiya jessicah[06:44:36] <jessicah> hey Duggan :)[06:47:29] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:48:02] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[06:48:05] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has joined #haiku[06:52:29] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:56:20] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: jessicah * hrev50875 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=9f4c8d3b74c1+%5E83b4b8937b82[06:56:21] <HAIKU-irker458> 9f4c8d3b74c1: desklink: set the status of fMuted in _ConnectMixer().[06:57:51] *** jessicah` <jessicah`!~jessicat@unaffiliated/jessicah> has joined #haiku[06:57:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jessicah`[06:58:09] <ohnx> hullo[06:58:15] <jessicah`> hey ohnx[06:58:20] <jessicah`> how goes your bitmap drawing?[07:06:17] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[07:07:34] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[07:10:52] *** jessicah` <jessicah`!~jessicat@unaffiliated/jessicah> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[07:12:11] *** jessicah` <jessicah`!~jessicat@unaffiliated/jessicah> has joined #haiku[07:12:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jessicah`[07:37:12] * Duggan yawns[07:37:22] <jessicah`> more yawning?[07:37:54] <Duggan> well y'all are boring me :P[07:38:24] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-188-106-146-066.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:38:29] <jessicah`> :p[07:42:20] <jessicah`> I think I'll have a nap :p[07:44:04] <Duggan> mhmm[07:44:16] <Duggan> you do that, I have a control to program :P[07:45:19] <jessicah> control?[07:46:19] <jessicah> someone should buy me an 8TB WD Red hard disk for my birthday :p[07:47:28] *** rdad <rdad!~rdad@c-98-206-31-153.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[07:48:43] <rdad> greetings, earthlings![07:49:10] <korli> jessicah: what do you need so much space for?[07:50:33] <jessicah> I need to replace a full 3TB drive in my NAS[07:51:02] <jessicah> and I want to set up a large VM cluster for testing[07:54:39] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-100-216.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[07:54:50] <Duggan> hey rdad, korli[07:54:55] <Duggan> jessicah yes, a control :P[07:55:24] <Duggan> one thing I CAN do is work within the bounds of the interface kit :P ... usually...[07:55:32] <jessicah> what kind of control?[07:55:58] <Duggan> ever used visual studio?[07:56:21] <jessicah> yes[07:56:28] <Duggan> that kind of control :P[07:56:35] <jessicah> used it a lot at my old job[07:56:46] <jessicah> that's an app...[07:56:58] <Duggan> it's more of a control than an app really :P lol[07:57:00] <Duggan> you know...[07:57:28] <Duggan> being able to take views and either lay them on top of each other with tabs or next to each other in a splitpanel, etc, etc, etc[07:57:44] <Duggan> being able to reorient everything to one's taste[07:57:54] <Duggan> and make them autohide and stuff too[07:58:05] <Duggan> having them split off into floating windows isn't out of the question either...[07:58:30] <jessicah> heh[07:59:00] <Duggan> but it's pretty damn hard, as I looked into doing it before...[07:59:49] <jessicah> can't you just re-parent views?[07:59:52] <Duggan> yep[08:00:34] <Duggan> I did some projects before where I was doing it all the time... worked well... it's just nobody's ever put all of that sort of functionality into control form[08:00:40] <Duggan> at least not to my knowledge[08:01:13] <jessicah> mm[08:02:32] <jessicah> maybe I'll look into why media player doesn't work for me next[08:04:46] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-ruxetbcgedtwdkzn> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[08:05:33] <Duggan> you should do that :P and look into why I don't have audio while you're at it ;)[08:06:28] <jessicah> I don't have your hardware... and hda driver works for me :p[08:07:03] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[08:08:17] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:15:33] <korli> jessicah: regarding http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=9c7d2b466869512ff39fb4334d14ead5b043b3d4 isn't it better to call stop_watching_for_parameter_changes() in DetachedFromWindow()?[08:16:31] <jessicah> I don't know, perhaps?[08:16:55] <jessicah> I'm not overly familiar with the BeAPI[08:17:18] <jessicah> makes sense though...[08:19:33] *** Diver_ <Diver_!6d4922f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.73.34.242> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[08:20:32] *** diver_ <diver_!6d4922f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.73.34.242> has joined #haiku[08:22:58] <korli> also the style in start_watching_for_parameter_changes and stop_watching_for_parameter_changes: roster should be checked for NULL :)[08:24:09] <korli> otherwise nice change[08:30:30] <jessicah> okay :) thanks :)[08:31:45] <jessicah> yeah, I'm slowly trying to get to a point where the media server doesn't lock up my machine[08:32:05] <jessicah> desklink was a small part of the problem[08:38:21] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A29B5D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[08:41:14] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD74A0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[08:41:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[08:57:32] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x4d04e62e.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[08:57:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[09:01:01] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[09:02:38] <Duggan> hej humdinger[09:02:53] <humdinger> McDuggan![09:03:06] <Duggan> hehe[09:03:11] <humdinger> How is it parsing?[09:03:29] <Duggan> it's not right now[09:03:41] <Duggan> taking a new direction on that... out of necessity[09:03:52] <humdinger> clang giving you grief?[09:03:58] <Duggan> yes and no[09:04:16] <Duggan> I'll just use the command line version and pipe the results into my program and parse them there[09:05:07] <Duggan> not perfectly efficient, but at least it works :P[09:05:24] <humdinger> but... that's almost cheating![09:05:40] <humdinger> :P[09:05:40] <Duggan> almost... but not quite :P[09:05:40] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-eoedxknjdcacllbl> has joined #haiku[09:07:50] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[09:09:06] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:13:26] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-188-118-181-239.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[09:13:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[09:18:30] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[09:40:00] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #haiku[09:48:23] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kacper@89-65-138-76.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #haiku[09:51:56] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p2003005B441FBD00022314FFFEAF6410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[09:56:29] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: humdinger * hrev50876 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=edbb68258b9c+%5E9f4c8d3b74c1[09:56:30] <HAIKU-irker458> edbb68258b9c: Adding notification icons[10:00:19] <jessicah`> humdinger: don't we already have icons such as used in alerts?[10:00:35] <jessicah`> I guess these are a different use case?[10:01:16] <humdinger> yeah, they don't look that nice with small sizes.[10:01:59] <humdinger> generally, we go for a 2d look for tool bar icons etc.[10:02:46] <humdinger> Personally, I'd like to have flat 2D icons in the Deskbar tray. but I take it the replicants take their app's icon with them?[10:03:32] <humdinger> currently, PC and PowerStatus are flat, media, email and network status are 3d[10:04:33] *** tresh <tresh!~vision@92.188.49.69> has joined #haiku[10:04:58] <jessicah`> no, replicants can use whatever icon they want[10:05:08] <jessicah`> that's how the volume control can be different when muted[10:05:31] <jessicah`> well, I dunno how you'd make a 3D looking icon for process controller... :p[10:06:07] <Duggan> add shadows like a cylinder... or maybe rotating rectangular parallelepipeds :P[10:06:13] <humdinger> it is possible, but then of course not that informative...[10:06:28] <Duggan> just like you, humdinger...[10:06:41] <humdinger> exactly.[10:06:46] <Duggan> lol[10:07:07] <humdinger> I'd like to have an audio CPU-meter[10:07:22] <jessicah`> audio cpu meter?[10:07:23] <humdinger> or rather ActivityMonitor[10:07:29] <jessicah`> you mean VU meters?[10:07:50] <Duggan> I think he means processcontroller :P[10:07:52] <humdinger> different instruments for different cores[10:08:06] <Duggan> actually he means a zigzaggy line behind everything in the deskbar I think[10:08:08] *** rdad <rdad!~rdad@c-98-206-31-153.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:08:20] <humdinger> more like ActivityMonitor.[10:08:31] <Duggan> which would look neat but wouldn't be useful as it'd be obfuscated by other icons[10:08:38] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[10:08:56] <Duggan> didn't we have something like that once?[10:09:01] <humdinger> I have two ActivityMonitors as replicants on the desktop[10:09:01] <jessicah`> I have no idea what he means[10:09:12] <Duggan> I have 3[10:09:21] <jessicah`> I have none :p[10:09:23] <Duggan> processors (all 8 of them), ram, and network traffic[10:09:27] <jessicah`> there, aren't we all unique?[10:09:58] <Duggan> I also have workspaces and sometimes volume control and/or deskcalc... volume control is of course useless :/[10:10:11] <humdinger> the higher the notes the higher the cpu usage. different instruments per core, network traffic etc.[10:10:12] <Duggan> jessicah` just like everybody else :P[10:10:17] <humdinger> I'd go mad in no time![10:10:34] <Duggan> lol that almost sounds like a good idea :P[10:10:46] <humdinger> as long as your ausio is busted...[10:10:51] <Duggan> I'd probably get used to it and it would put me in the coding state of mind... I'd be more productive![10:10:52] <humdinger> *audio[10:10:59] <Duggan> yep :([10:11:00] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:11:58] <jessicah`> you want cpu to make music based on load?[10:12:00] <jessicah`> hahahaha[10:12:03] <Duggan> wtf, fractal music redirects to algorithmic composition? that's bull malarkey....[10:12:06] <Duggan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal_music[10:12:09] <humdinger> yes[10:12:18] <Duggan> fractal music is or at least can be friggin awesome[10:13:07] <humdinger> not just cpu. imagine to hear the dowloadspeed in the background.[10:14:38] <jessicah`> ugh, I remember the days of analog audio and hard disk activity noise in the output[10:14:50] <jessicah`> I'm very happy without that and my digital audio output :p[10:15:19] <jessicah`> humdinger: sounds like you just need to get a dialup modem, lulz[10:15:52] <humdinger> crshshshsh ding blng stststs crshhhhh[10:15:57] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A29B5D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[10:16:00] <humdinger> "ah my download has stalled"[10:16:15] <Duggan> lol[10:16:47] <humdinger> it's suddenly so quiet... my compile must be finished or failed.[10:17:29] <jessicah`> jam ; playfile beep.wav[10:17:52] <jessicah`> works in reverse, but whatevs :p[10:18:19] <jessicah`> or you could just do jam ; beep[10:18:25] <jessicah`> if you had a sound scheme configured[10:19:26] <humdinger> doesn't sound like the same anarchic mayhem...[10:22:08] <jessicah`> no :p[10:22:15] * jessicah` sighs heavily[10:22:20] <jessicah`> I wish I could use my second monitor[10:23:21] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@150.237.94.36> has joined #haiku[10:23:41] <humdinger> I go out to play in the snow a bit.[10:23:44] <humdinger> ⛄ ⛄[10:23:53] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x4d04e62e.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[10:24:29] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-100-216.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[10:34:50] <Duggan> jessicah` when I get some tools to help me work on that, I'll get right on it :)[10:40:20] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-eoedxknjdcacllbl> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[10:40:24] <jessicah> ;)[10:40:49] <jessicah> who needs tools? psh[10:43:58] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3305 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build <repository>Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/3305 blamelist: Humdinger <humdingerb at gmail dot com>[10:45:06] <Duggan> me :P[10:46:17] <jessicah> (:[10:47:44] *** geoid_ <geoid_!~geoid@95.131.217.194> has joined #haiku[10:48:10] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[10:50:33] *** Dane__ <Dane__!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[10:51:42] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has joined #haiku[10:56:05] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #haiku[10:56:50] *** tresh <tresh!~vision@92.188.49.69> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[11:11:11] <korli> jessicah: your timezone for commits seems off[11:12:09] <jessicah> hmm[11:12:18] <korli> humdinger "Notify_Achtung" klingt sehr deutsch :)[11:13:11] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[11:13:38] <jessicah> so it is[11:13:55] <jessicah> I always forget to set that up[11:14:17] <jessicah> since clock looks correct, never occurs to me[11:16:52] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:17:21] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[11:22:22] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)[11:24:49] *** mikedld|w <mikedld|w!~mike.dld@128.140.241.11> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[11:25:29] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kacper@89-65-138-76.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: KapiX)[11:32:37] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:a5ef:c525:d142:52a:6b9a> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[11:37:37] *** mikedld|w <mikedld|w!~mike.dld@128.140.241.11> has joined #haiku[11:39:01] *** mikedld|w <mikedld|w!~mike.dld@128.140.241.11> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:39:19] *** mikedld|w <mikedld|w!~mike.dld@128.140.241.11> has joined #haiku[11:40:32] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[11:51:34] <korli> jessicah: not a big deal[11:55:35] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: GeneralDuke)[12:01:44] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p2003005B441FBD00022314FFFEAF6410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:02:08] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p2003005B441FBD00022314FFFEAF6410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[12:06:31] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #haiku[12:10:49] *** Cld_ is now known as Cld[12:43:38] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A29B5D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[12:43:52] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A29B5D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:50:06] *** Vanisha <Vanisha!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has joined #haiku[12:51:14] <Vanisha> Hey !![13:00:18] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #haiku[13:02:52] *** maxxcan <maxxcan!~maxxcan@84.121.68.247.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[13:04:48] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:a5ef:91aa:c6f6:bc38:605f> has joined #haiku[13:04:48] *** maxxcan <maxxcan!~maxxcan@84.121.68.247.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:14:22] <jessicah> hi Vanisha :)[13:14:22] *** raefaldhia <raefaldhia!b4f6007c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.246.0.124> has joined #haiku[13:15:09] <Vanisha> Is that Haiku page up where we could claim tasks ? I bored after GCI got over :P[13:15:17] <Vanisha> I am bored*[13:16:54] <jessicah> uh, I don't know[13:23:12] <jessicah> was someone going to export the remaining tasks?[13:23:16] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[13:25:51] <jessicah> you could do a recipe for neon sparkles[13:26:18] <jessicah> it's a fork of neon lines[13:26:41] <jessicah> it's on my github[13:27:24] *** maxxcan <maxxcan!~maxxcan@84.121.68.247.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[13:27:49] *** maxxcan <maxxcan!~maxxcan@84.121.68.247.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:37:08] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-lqgplvplkpdluohq> has joined #haiku[13:41:07] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:186a:e60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has joined #haiku[13:41:16] <korli> Vanisha: there are open issues at https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues[13:43:24] *** Vanisha <Vanisha!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[13:50:06] <Emrys> ohnx, ohnx`, you should submit for review for your task, 4 hours until deadline[13:51:40] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:a5ef:91aa:c6f6:bc38:605f> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:09:30] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@unaffiliated/cenbe> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:09:57] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:11:57] *** raefaldhia <raefaldhia!b4f6007c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.246.0.124> has quit IRC (Quit: tired)[14:29:41] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[14:33:57] *** jessicah` <jessicah`!~jessicat@unaffiliated/jessicah> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[14:40:15] <ohnx> ok[14:43:09] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[14:47:01] <jessicah> ohnx: comment about removing Makefile makes sense :)[14:47:06] <jessicah> and then I'll approve in GCI[14:47:19] <ohnx> ok[14:47:29] <jessicah> sorry for all the mucking about on that recipe :( too many people with different ideas of what's correct =/[14:48:13] <ohnx> so i should be removing the makefiles, right[14:50:21] <jessicah> yeah[14:54:09] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[14:58:08] <ohnx> so i should just only copy every header in inc/[14:59:08] <korli> bye[14:59:10] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[15:00:04] <ohnx> does haiku have rsync?[15:00:38] <jessicah> yes[15:00:50] <jessicah> and yes[15:01:14] <jessicah> let me fire up my vm, so I can double-check what's needed :)[15:01:20] *** geoid__ <geoid__!~geoid@host31-48-244-129.range31-48.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[15:02:21] <ohnx> so cd inc/ && rsync -avmn --include='*.h' -f 'hide,! */' . $includeDir/gnuefi/ should work? :p[15:04:22] *** geoid__ 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yeah but that kills the directory structure[15:14:29] <jessicah> mm :)[15:14:36] <jessicah> anyway, I wasn't meaning verbatim[15:17:51] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[15:17:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[15:18:29] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/309ccdded079...8e04610b346c[15:18:31] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson 8e04610 - pngcrush: bump to 1.8.11, switch SOURCE_URI to https.[15:19:48] <ohnx> i'll do rsync, since it's on haiku anyways[15:20:37] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD74A0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:20:43] <jessicah> :)[15:24:45] *** tidux[m] <tidux[m]!tiduxmatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-nwpiopfrpnfwsrno> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:24:48] *** Gareth[m] <Gareth[m]!garethmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ytivzjlqrkwwqgns> has quit IRC (Write error: Connection reset by peer)[15:28:16] <Barrett> jessicah, so the locking deskbar issue was caused by Pulse()[15:28:33] <jessicah> locking deskbar issue?[15:28:59] <Barrett> I guessed your changes related that[15:29:20] <jessicah> on my macbook air, it was part of a problem with media_server locking up my desktop[15:29:43] <jessicah> there are still some other weird locking problems, but yes, that fixed one of them[15:29:54] <Barrett> it wasn't the media_server itself[15:30:03] <Barrett> desklink looked strange to me always[15:30:22] <jessicah> well, blacklisting media_server made the lockups go away, obviously because there's no media_server to talk to anymore[15:30:32] <Barrett> removing it solved all issues when I experienced it[15:30:44] <jessicah> but yes, communicating with the media_server was a bit of a problem[15:31:08] <jessicah> since desklink would reconnect in every Pulse(); not very efficient =/[15:32:24] <Barrett> I think this is partially a BControllable deficiency[15:32:42] <Barrett> yet I'm considering if it's a good or bad part of the media_kit[15:32:51] <Barrett> contrary to others which are garbaged since long time[15:33:23] <Barrett> nowadays it'd make more sense to replace BParameterWeb with something xml based[15:34:13] <Barrett> but might be possible to expand the current implementation[15:34:21] *** AndrewZ <AndrewZ!4a4b0cb6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.75.12.182> has joined #haiku[15:34:24] <Barrett> I'm not happy how they are handled and shared though[15:34:40] <Barrett> hi AndrewZ[15:35:02] <jessicah> BControllable is pretty neat[15:35:06] <AndrewZ> @Barrett good morning, Senor Barrett[15:35:22] <jessicah> and it piggybacks off the existing messaging API[15:35:22] <Barrett> AndrewZ, I forgot completely your mails sorry[15:35:28] <Barrett> going to reply in a few mins[15:35:49] <AndrewZ> @Barrett don't worry, you can catch me up today :-)[15:36:11] <AndrewZ> @Barrett I have always been meaning to ask you[15:36:11] <jessicah> just added a couple new cases in MessageReceived(), and code to setup watching for changes, and it just works[15:36:25] <Barrett> BControllable looks neat yes[15:36:30] <AndrewZ> @Barrett how did you choose your name "Barrett"?[15:36:45] <Barrett> but it becomes a pain when you get into automation and parameters recording[15:36:54] <Barrett> especially if you're running more nodes[15:37:06] <Barrett> the model isn't enough strong[15:37:16] <Barrett> it works for simple cases[15:37:17] <jessicah> it seems rather elegant design to me, but what do I know :)[15:37:29] <Barrett> the media_kit is elegant overall[15:37:37] <Barrett> but doesn't work and got messed by layers of API[15:37:47] <Barrett> the initial media_kit was a lot more raw[15:37:56] <Barrett> and it might have worked at the time (R4)[15:38:07] <Barrett> but they then added all this stinking stuff[15:38:10] <Barrett> BMediaEventLooper[15:38:14] <Barrett> and company[15:38:54] <jessicah> surely you don't have to use it if you don't want to[15:39:02] <jessicah> there's no BMediaEventLooper in desklink[15:39:04] <Barrett> AndrewZ, hehe common question, it's for music[15:39:59] <Barrett> yes but your parameters are processed by an event looper on the other end[15:40:21] <AndrewZ> @Barrett Syd Barrett??[15:40:42] <Barrett> I think except the timesource there's not a node which is not a BMediaEventLooper[15:40:55] <Barrett> AndrewZ, yep[15:41:15] <Barrett> I listen Pink Floyd since very young age[15:41:34] <Barrett> I was teenager when I choose that nick[15:43:15] <jessicah> Barrett: mm, sounds like you just need two APIs side-by-side[15:43:16] <AndrewZ> I also listen to a lot of Pink Floyd[15:43:25] <jessicah> your highlevel, and your lowlevel[15:43:38] <jessicah> because one can never fit in the place of the other[15:43:44] <jessicah> you'll always need both[15:43:47] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@unaffiliated/cenbe> has joined #haiku[15:43:51] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@unaffiliated/cenbe> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:44:26] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kacper@89-65-138-76.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #haiku[15:44:59] <Barrett> jessicah, the high level API is just a way to polish the client side[15:45:08] <Barrett> then the real fun will be to reimplement the internals[15:45:43] <Barrett> the first step will be to get rid of the looper in the media_client with a new system I've in the blacksmith[15:45:57] *** Cenbe <Cenbe!~cenbe@unaffiliated/cenbe> has joined #haiku[15:46:01] <Barrett> in future the whole media_kit will be kept as a compat layer[15:46:04] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[15:46:55] <Barrett> AndrewZ, nice![15:47:50] <jessicah> ohnx: oh, actually, can you use $developLibDir instead of $libDir? I'll modify Haiku's jamfiles when an updated package gets built[15:47:55] <jessicah> I'll approve task in GCI anyway[15:48:11] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:48:27] <punsith> what dous invalid means in ishue , i made some ishues reecipes building on x86_64 but some are closed saying invalied[15:48:38] <punsith> but they dont build on y vm[15:48:46] <punsith> *my[15:49:08] <jessicah> Barrett: I don't understand what the problem with the looper is[15:49:14] <Barrett> jessicah, lots[15:50:32] <jessicah> are you going to write your own message passing framework then?[15:50:33] <Barrett> this has been widely showed in ml[15:50:57] <Barrett> this might be a future step I'm still considering[15:50:57] <jessicah> also largely debated if I recall[15:51:12] <Barrett> no one showed me counterexamplex on some fundamental problems[15:51:19] <Barrett> *examples[15:51:34] <Barrett> of which I will list two[15:51:50] <Barrett> the first being dealing with more buffer paths[15:52:02] <Barrett> or with very incompatible buffer processing[15:52:46] <Barrett> it might happen in the BMediaEventLooper that two events conflicts indefinitely as one thread is not enough[15:53:00] <Barrett> so that makes it pratically usable at most[15:53:02] <Barrett> and in the best case[15:53:06] <Barrett> with 1:N connections[15:53:42] <Barrett> second problem is buffer synchronization/protection and chain efficiency[15:54:10] <Barrett> when handling with non trivial chains it's very hard to ensure every event will get processed at right time[15:54:29] <Barrett> still, all those issues can't been seen with simple examples like the sound player[15:54:46] <Barrett> and the mixer is designed to take into account some of these issues[15:55:11] <Barrett> there's a lot more, but those two are definitely hard issues to solve[15:55:16] <Barrett> worth of a kit redesign[15:55:54] <jessicah> perhaps[15:56:00] <jessicah> maybe just an alternate kit[15:56:14] <jessicah> that is "more raw"[15:56:35] <Barrett> if we're going to take media processing seriously the media_kit is a toy[15:58:00] <jessicah> tune tracker people seem to do alright with it[15:58:06] <jessicah> so it can't be entirely bad[15:58:53] <jessicah> it sounds more like you're trying to push the limits of what it's designed to do, such that you need a secondary kit to handle your more low-level needs[15:59:01] <Barrett> yes and not everything from the media_kit will go away[15:59:05] <jessicah> rather than redesign what's already working for the majority of things[15:59:07] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p2003005B441FBD00022314FFFEAF6410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:59:13] *** leszek_ <leszek_!~leszek@p5DE538B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[15:59:17] <Barrett> no[15:59:45] <Barrett> we just needs something more modern able to accomodate any usage sides[16:00:02] <jessicah> you can't do a one-size fits all approach[16:00:07] *** tidux[m] <tidux[m]!tiduxmatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rgtbxojmyjlxqsrz> has joined #haiku[16:01:36] <jessicah> pro & consumer audio are two entirely different things[16:01:44] <jessicah> about the only thing in common is the word audio :p[16:02:29] <Barrett> I don't understand why people continue creating their own idea of a media2_kit and pushing that as an argument[16:02:39] <Barrett> such as generally thinking about audio[16:02:53] <Barrett> where I never referred as pro audio or things like that[16:03:02] <Barrett> on the contrary[16:03:09] <Barrett> the media2_kit will allow subtitles, midi[16:03:13] <Barrett> parameters recording[16:03:17] <Barrett> and other strange stuff[16:03:41] <Barrett> but I'm generally annoyed to explain why the media_kit should be deprecated[16:03:55] <Barrett> I think I will just begin to ignore all that : p[16:05:16] <Barrett> yet I'm prepared to port my stuff over another OS if it happens to work that way[16:06:48] <jessicah> :p[16:07:37] <ohnx> ok thanks jessicah ;0[16:07:55] <jessicah> ping me when you've updated the recipe[16:07:59] *** Gareth[m] <Gareth[m]!garethmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-yugjltbfhrldqruz> has joined #haiku[16:08:04] <jessicah> and I'll merge it, so they can stop nagging :p[16:08:14] *** NicePics <NicePics!~Bob@176-93-245-95.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #haiku[16:09:32] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[16:10:05] <ohnx> ok[16:10:54] <NicePics> Any one here who still has BeOS5PEMaxEditionV3.zip?[16:14:35] <jessicah> ohnx: I don't understand why I don't see your latest code in github[16:15:21] <ohnx> lol my pc just crashed[16:15:27] <ohnx> i didn't update it yet[16:16:02] <jessicah> oh okay[16:16:23] <ohnx> will do it once windows reboots[16:18:00] <jessicah> ohnx: oh, and one other change, it should be gnu_efi_kernel IMO[16:18:31] <jessicah> similar to how https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/blob/master/media-gfx/qrencode/qrencode_kdl-3.4.4.recipe is done[16:19:49] <jessicah> if we ever have runtime support, can expand the recipe then :p[16:19:56] <jessicah> for now, it's definitely kernel specific[16:21:26] <jessicah> if they want more changes, they can do it themselves :D[16:28:38] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-wbrlhuaypfyqgndp> has joined #haiku[16:34:00] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD74A0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[16:34:00] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[16:39:43] *** leszek_ is now known as leszek[16:54:28] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:57:23] <Premislaus> NicePics: Once there was a large package on torrents and archive.org, with BeOS apps.[16:58:00] <Premislaus> NicePics: You can try to search it on beshare.[16:59:35] <NicePics> Unfortuantely the torrents are dead, bebits gone and beshare didn't have much else[17:01:51] <Premislaus> NicePics: https://archive.org/details/2015_BeOS_Collection[17:02:06] *** Kakko <Kakko!~textual@45.56.159.92> has joined #haiku[17:02:10] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/8e04610b346c...6455c52f3d5b[17:02:11] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] dacianf 6455c52 - midikeyboard: new recipe (#1049)[17:02:27] *** Kakko <Kakko!~textual@45.56.159.92> has left #haiku[17:04:38] <NicePics> Thanks, but not in there[17:11:56] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: GeneralDuke)[17:18:01] *** xemdetia_ <xemdetia_!~xemdetia@129.42.208.174> has joined #haiku[17:18:45] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-wbrlhuaypfyqgndp> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:22:38] <Premislaus> NicePics: http://www.filewatcher.com/m/BeOS5PEMaxEditionV31b1.zip.329316604-0.html :)[17:22:40] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-lqgplvplkpdluohq> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:22:47] <Premislaus> NicePics: two mirrors works[17:24:30] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-tgoycbwolluroeur> has joined #haiku[17:25:21] <NicePics> v3.1 should work as well - thanks a lot![17:26:22] <ohnx> where did hannah go?[17:34:55] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-100-216.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[17:48:21] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@ip68-103-222-187.ks.ok.cox.net> has joined #haiku[17:51:06] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.71.9.164.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[17:51:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[17:55:39] <ohnx> heyo Stephanie[17:55:46] <Stephanie> Hi ohnx![17:55:47] <ohnx> gci is over i think[17:56:04] <Stephanie> Yeah it's over sometime today[17:56:38] <ohnx> http://people.sugarlabs.org:5000/2015/org/haiku/[17:56:45] <ohnx> you did well last year :)[17:57:02] <Stephanie> Whoa didn't know this was a thing[17:57:04] <Stephanie> lol :D[17:57:21] <Premislaus> Barrett: UltraDV just works with dynamic FPS (from cheap camera, like smartphone) or I must convert to constant fps? In Lightworks with dynamic FPS I have audio-video out of sync.[17:58:41] <Premislaus> Barrett: https://www.lwks.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=28&id=33953&Itemid=81[18:00:03] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:00:40] <ohnx> contest over apparently[18:00:55] <Premislaus> *variable frame rate[18:00:56] *** gcibot <gcibot!ignacio@unaffiliated/ignaciouy/bot/gcibot> has joined #haiku[18:01:02] *** ignacio <ignacio!ignacio@unaffiliated/ignacio> has joined #haiku[18:01:07] <ohnx> !high5[18:01:07] * gcibot HIGH FIVES ALL AROUND!!![18:02:14] * Stephanie looks at stack of test prep books she forgot about starting November 28[18:02:27] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[18:02:37] <Vidrep> Hi[18:02:46] <ohnx> heyo[18:02:50] <Stephanie> Hi Vidrep[18:03:12] <Vidrep> :)[18:03:15] <ohnx> hey ignacio when did you come here? o.O[18:03:51] <ignacio> seconds after you invited gcibot[18:04:13] <ohnx> oh lol[18:04:22] <ohnx> i hate how irccloud groups joins[18:04:44] *** NicePics <NicePics!~Bob@176-93-245-95.bb.dnainternet.fi> has left #haiku ("Leaving")[18:08:39] <jessicah> you can turn that off[18:08:57] <jessicah> but it cuts down on noise a lot :)[18:11:43] <jessicah> gosh, some of those orgs have a lot of students[18:11:53] <jessicah> I think we'd get crushed if we had that many students...[18:12:40] <ohnx> lol[18:15:05] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kacper@89-65-138-76.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: KapiX)[18:19:27] <jessicah> ohnx: are you going to push your updated recipe?[18:19:29] <jessicah> :p[18:19:54] <ohnx> uh[18:19:54] <ohnx> sure[18:21:07] <jessicah> :p[18:28:29] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begasus@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[18:28:44] <Begasus> evening peeps[18:29:23] <Stephanie> Hi Begasus![18:29:43] <Begasus> hi Stephanie! :)[18:29:49] <Begasus> how's it going?[18:31:05] <Stephanie> Going well, you?[18:31:53] <jessicah> hello Begasus :)[18:32:02] <Begasus> fine here, work is done so after the meal I have some spare time again :)[18:32:08] <Begasus> hi jessicah :)[18:33:39] <Begasus> morning there jessicah? (early bird) :)[18:36:36] <jessicah> no, been up all night :p[18:36:44] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-188-106-146-066.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[18:37:42] <Begasus> 'lo miqlas[18:37:53] <miqlas> 'hi Begasus[18:38:00] <Begasus> no work today jessicah?[18:38:13] <jessicah> I don't have a job[18:38:27] <ohnx> oh k that makes sense[18:38:31] <ohnx> are you a student?[18:38:53] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-tgoycbwolluroeur> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[18:38:55] <Begasus> ow sorry, with your skills I thought you'd have a job for sure, it will come :)[18:39:07] <miqlas> jessicah: be happy, my mother says: only the poors needs to work. She says it as she have a vacation, btw.[18:39:25] <Begasus> hehe[18:39:49] <miqlas> and ofc she says it to me, as i need to go to work.[18:39:57] <Begasus> I work to keep the dogs healthy :P[18:40:17] <miqlas> having dog == work (for me)[18:40:37] <Begasus> try having 10 (and a litter due) :)[18:42:13] <Begasus> reming me that I populate the repository next time before I create a new clone ...[18:42:51] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[18:43:22] *** gcibot is now known as exgcibot[18:43:31] *** exgcibot is now known as ex-gcibot[18:44:17] <Begasus> has DaaT been in the channel lately? haven't seen him in ages here :/[18:44:45] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x4d04e62e.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[18:44:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[18:44:54] <Begasus> humdinger! :)[18:45:10] <humdinger> hullo Begasus![18:45:27] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[18:45:35] <Begasus> 'lo Emrys :)[18:46:11] <humdinger> congrats to the end of GCI, Emrys. :)[18:46:55] <jessicah> Begasus: oh, I used to have a job[18:47:02] <jessicah> major depressive episode[18:47:11] <jessicah> better now, but I kinda like not working :p[18:47:45] <Begasus> bummer ... not always a thing to look out for jessicah ... hope things are way better now for you[18:47:56] <jessicah> benefit payments aren't much though[18:48:06] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[18:48:07] <Begasus> know the feeling :/[18:48:11] <Begasus> 'lo punsith[18:48:51] <Emrys> hello Begasus humdinger[18:49:10] <Emrys> thank but i think i should have kept the icons one open?[18:49:15] <Emrys> thanks*[18:49:17] <Begasus> Fetching package for devel:libsdl_image_x86 ...[18:49:18] <Begasus> Error: unable to resolve required packages for build for freeciv_x86-2.5.6[18:49:55] <humdinger> Emrys: nah, I had a look. They are OK. We can tweak things later.[18:50:14] <jessicah> Begasus: at least it gives me lots of time to work on Haiku :)[18:50:16] <Begasus> problem 1: nothing provides lib:libpng_x86>=16.20.0 needed by sdl_image_x86-1.2.12-5[18:50:36] <jessicah> which I've been enjoying[18:50:38] <Begasus> yeah jessicah that's a plus for all of us :)[18:50:55] <humdinger> jessicah: considered applying for a contract at Haiku Inc?[18:51:01] <humdinger> or does it create too much pressure.[18:51:10] <Emrys> humdinger, that's good![18:51:10] <Begasus> so looks like the sdl_image in the repo is still an older one ... PulkoMandy?[18:51:51] <jessicah> humdinger: mm, I like to vary what I work on, so I dunno, a contract seems a little to formal[18:51:58] <Begasus> or in the image (downloaded the latest one yesterday)[18:52:16] <humdinger> jessicah: I understand. OTOH... a bit of moneys...[18:52:18] <jessicah> like in last few weeks, it's been uefi, unicode fixes, and then some media kit interactions[18:52:37] <Begasus> you can't buy freedom :)[18:52:43] <punsith> hi begasus[18:52:45] <punsith> :)[18:52:47] <humdinger> I'd like to try, Begasus[18:53:00] <jessicah> but yes, extra monies would be nice :p[18:53:20] <Begasus> after about 8 years I hope to have some freedom (after working long enough) :)[18:53:28] <jessicah> plus then there's all the issues around tax, etc. if I took a contract[18:55:07] <jessicah> I get the occasional contract work out at uni for school of engineering[18:55:15] <jessicah> so it's not too bad[18:55:16] <ohnx> hey jessicah is https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/985/commits/9c95de376aa3b2d07782e6296f16978c4024df7d[18:55:20] <Premislaus> jessicah: How can I boot with EFI, I need a special build?[18:55:39] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@dslb-188-106-146-066.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[18:55:52] <ohnx> yes[18:56:23] <humdinger> Since in the PROVIDES "app:MIDI\ Keyboard = $portVersion" isn't allowed (space ein filename),[18:56:24] <jessicah> Premislaus: I have a pre-built disk image you can copy to a usb disk like you would an anyboot image[18:56:28] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-3-88-162-208-159.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[18:56:31] <humdinger> should I use "app:MIDIKeyboard = $portVersion" instead?[18:56:37] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[18:57:04] <jessicah> Premislaus: http://www.jessicah.org/uefi-x86_64-haiku.image[18:57:14] <jessicah> I should probably compress it...[18:57:36] <ohnx> lol 1gb[18:58:12] <jessicah> it didn't take too long to download here the other day[18:58:18] <jessicah> couple minutes[18:58:27] <Premislaus> jessicah: I have 100 mbit\s fiber :), but asymmetric :(.[18:58:36] <Begasus> couldn't you use app:"MIDI Keyboard" humdinger?[18:58:46] <ohnx> if your server supports compression of files, maybe it could be faster? :p[18:58:46] <jessicah> yeah, same; 100 down, 20 up[18:58:50] <humdinger> no. hp hates the "[18:58:54] <ohnx> wow you all have good internets[18:59:14] <Diver> jessicah: does it include haiku_loader.efi which needs to be installed manually?[19:00:05] <jessicah> the image is a gpt partition with ESP containing haiku_loader.efi as bootx64.efi and a haiku partition[19:00:06] <Begasus> well ... iirc the app provides isn't the real issue, you could probably just use MIDIKeyboard ... just at install time you'de have to link it with the space that should be working ok ... not?[19:00:08] <jessicah> so it should just boot[19:00:11] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:00:12] <Premislaus> jessicah: http://www.speedtest.pl/test/141544334 sometimes ping is lower - 4ms[19:00:49] <jessicah> http://beta.speedtest.net/result/5972134448[19:00:53] <jessicah> slightly better :p[19:00:58] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@ip68-103-222-187.ks.ok.cox.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[19:01:17] <humdinger> Begasus: yes. all works alright... So I guess it's OK. Might be more critical if other recipes could depend on the app. but that's far fetched...[19:01:25] <Premislaus> jessicah: Ouch! Only hundreds of kb\s from jessicah.org[19:01:41] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@ip68-103-222-187.ks.ok.cox.net> has joined #haiku[19:01:54] <jessicah> http://www.jessicah.org/uefi-x86_64-haiku.tar.gz[19:01:56] <ohnx> i have symmetric[19:01:56] <jessicah> 413MB[19:02:14] <ohnx> http://beta.speedtest.net/result/5972141720[19:02:27] <Begasus> if something depends on it link it with requires MIDIKeyboard then humdinger?[19:02:40] <ohnx> but at school :<[19:02:42] <ohnx> not at home[19:02:45] <jessicah> wonder why it gives me a http URL... I have https enabled... silly control panel[19:02:47] <Premislaus> jessicah: http://beta.speedtest.net/result/5972143062 better ping ;)[19:03:11] <jessicah> ;)[19:03:19] <jessicah> I still have better upload :p[19:03:29] <Begasus> :D[19:03:41] <humdinger> Begasus: yes, that'll work. One just has to look at the recipe to find the right name, which isn't ideal.[19:04:43] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-3-88-162-208-159.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[19:04:49] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[19:05:28] <jessicah> hmm, my domain isn't on the HSTS preload list yet... still pending =/[19:05:31] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/6455c52f3d5b...2366f5cf03e5[19:05:32] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb 2366f5c - Midikeyboard: fix recipe[19:06:53] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] jessicah pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/2366f5cf03e5...c1cca33b78b8[19:06:55] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] ohnx c1cca33 - Add gnu_efi recipe (#985)[19:06:56] <Begasus> rebuild sdl_image_x86 here, that works for freeciv now, the package should be updated in the nightly ...[19:09:14] <ohnx> yay! it's done[19:10:00] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p5DE538B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:10:04] <jessicah> :)[19:12:39] <jessicah> wow, 2014 was a big year for Haiku in GCI: 149 students have finished 435 tasks[19:12:52] <jessicah> be interesting to see the 2016 stats on that sugarlabs page[19:12:59] <miqlas> Giys and jessicah: any idea, what's wrong here? http://termbin.com/7xj1[19:13:46] <ohnx> hey jessicah how do you get an efi image to run on a mac[19:13:51] <ohnx> without screwing up the os[19:14:45] <jessicah> hold option key when turning on[19:14:54] <jessicah> should let you boot from another device[19:14:58] <jessicah> otherwise, use refind[19:15:02] <jessicah> I generally use refind[19:15:07] <jessicah> (on an SD card)[19:15:16] <ohnx> i mounted the efi parition[19:15:23] <ohnx> can i not stick an efi file there? :p[19:15:24] <jessicah> because mac firmware sucks[19:15:38] <jessicah> probably, but it may not show up as a bootable option[19:16:06] <jessicah> you could try with EFI/haiku/haiku_loader.efi[19:16:32] <ohnx> oh[19:16:37] <jessicah> but it's mac, so, not guaranteed to do anything; generally you need to use something like efibootmgr on linux to modify the actual boot entries[19:16:46] <jessicah> I'm not sure what the equivalent on mac is[19:16:46] <ohnx> i was going to try https://github.com/ohnx/nyan-load :p[19:17:11] <jessicah> just putting a file on the ESP doesn't actually add it as a boot entry[19:17:22] <ohnx> ah k[19:17:27] <ohnx> it worked on my windows laptop[19:17:33] <jessicah> there are nvram efi variables that control boot[19:19:00] <jessicah> I'm pretty sure if you keep your nyan cat loader running for about 5 minutes, your PC should reboot[19:19:38] <jessicah> UEFI implements a watchdog timer, which you can turn off[19:21:27] <ohnx> i turned it off xD[19:22:49] <jessicah> ah I see you did :p[19:22:51] <jessicah> just reading now[19:23:10] *** ohnx-logbot <ohnx-logbot!ignacio@2001:4830:134:7::11> has joined #haiku[19:24:17] <Duggan> :P[19:24:33] <jessicah> if you want to be able to exit, you can check for an event without waiting[19:24:42] <Begasus> libtool: link: cannot find the library `/packages/libsdl_x86-1.2.15-5/.self/develop/lib/x86/libSDL.la' or unhandled argument `/packages/libsdl_x86-1.2.15-5/.self/develop/lib/x86/libSDL.la'[19:25:04] *** ohnx-logbot <ohnx-logbot!ignacio@2001:4830:134:7::11> has quit IRC (Changing host)[19:25:04] *** ohnx-logbot <ohnx-logbot!ignacio@unaffiliated/ohnx> has joined #haiku[19:25:09] <Begasus> ok ... this thing has to be handled also in the nightly ...[19:25:31] <jessicah> https://github.com/haiku/haiku/blob/master/src/system/boot/platform/efi/console.cpp#L219[19:26:40] <Begasus> gfx, ttf and mixer are involved here ...[19:27:11] <ohnx> yeah what i want to happen is to keep running a loop until user presses a key[19:27:13] <ohnx> is that possible[19:29:55] <jessicah> yeah, just use same code as in that function[19:29:59] <jessicah> it returns immediately[19:30:22] <jessicah> you just don't need the stall[19:30:41] <jessicah> that was added because the bootloader was too fast to press a key[19:31:45] <jessicah> https://github.com/ohnx/nyan-load/blob/master/nyanload.c#L136 < that's where you'd likely put the code[19:32:35] <Duggan> :P[19:33:05] <ohnx> no i want it to keep udpating the graphics until the user presses a key[19:33:47] <Duggan> nobody will ever take Haiku seriously with a nyancat bootloader :P[19:34:09] <ohnx> pfft i want to make it a generic[19:34:24] <Duggan> mhmm...[19:34:35] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:34:43] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[19:35:47] *** Klima <Klima!~Klima@static-78-8-176-191.ssp.dialog.net.pl> has joined #haiku[19:36:29] <jessicah> ohnx: that's what would happen[19:36:56] <jessicah> you'd call ReadKeyStroke, it'd return an error if there's no keystroke available, and you'd continue looping[19:37:13] <ohnx> ah[19:37:17] <jessicah> if you get a keystroke, you can check for a particular key if you want, and you'd just return EFI_SUCCESS;[19:37:27] <ohnx> ah nice[19:37:31] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-100-216.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[19:37:40] <ohnx> ah k[19:37:52] <jessicah> https://github.com/haiku/haiku/blob/master/src/system/boot/platform/efi/console.cpp#L151 < that is the difference of doing a blocking read[19:38:07] <jessicah> you wait for event to be signalled first[19:39:16] * ohnx ok so like https://github.com/ohnx/nyan-load/blob/master/nyanload.c[19:40:19] *** xemdetia_ is now known as xemdetia[19:41:02] <jessicah> well your if/else is a bit weird, but sure, like that[19:41:06] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:41:23] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:41:24] <ohnx> why is it weird[19:41:36] <jessicah> if (status == EFI_SUCCESS) return EFI_SUCCESS;[19:41:39] <jessicah> or break[19:41:43] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[19:41:46] <jessicah> then you don't need the else clause at all[19:41:52] <ohnx> oh yeah[19:41:53] <ohnx> lol[19:42:17] <ohnx> not sure what i was thinking...[19:43:02] <jessicah> :p[19:44:09] <Duggan> I'd like to think we all make mistakes like that sometimes... but it's probably just you and me...[19:44:39] <ohnx> it's not a mistake[19:44:47] <ohnx> it's a feature :)[19:49:32] <Duggan> you should work for microsoft :P[19:49:35] <Duggan> you'd fit in well there[19:50:23] <humdinger> meanie[19:50:29] <ohnx> ikr[19:50:35] <ohnx> do random stuff all day that has no purpose[19:50:39] <ohnx> and often overcomplicates stuff[19:50:42] <ohnx> reinvent the wheel[19:51:34] <miqlas> Guys, cmake have curl, expat, jsoncpp, zlib, bzip2, lzma, libarchive and libuv in-tree. Should i use them, or the system provided ones? (It would generate external dependecies!) The old recipes using the cmake in-tree versions. Should i follow this?[19:54:05] <Duggan> lol humdinger[19:56:35] *** cucujoidea <cucujoidea!bc68d996@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.104.217.150> has joined #haiku[20:08:38] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c1cca33b78b8...2901c1e1cd7b[20:08:40] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] dash102 2901c1e - neonlights: add recipe (#1075)[20:11:24] <Begasus> congrats Stephanie :)[20:11:32] <Begasus> another one added :D[20:11:59] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@209.40.223.213> has joined #haiku[20:12:02] <miqlas> zlib and libuv recipes using cmake, so if i try to use the system libs to get cmake compiled, it would create a circular dependency (it means cmake requires zlib, but zlib cannot be compiled without cmake). It would be really bad for the build-bots, right?[20:12:49] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@209.40.223.213> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:13:24] <humdinger> I'm powering down for tonight.[20:13:34] <humdinger> see you all tomorrow![20:13:40] <Begasus> cu humdinger[20:13:48] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x4d04e62e.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[20:15:23] <Stephanie> Yay thanks Begasus[20:18:09] <Begasus> :)[20:18:36] <jessicah> since when did zlib depend on cmake?[20:20:11] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mhrsdgoazwhmlcsg> has joined #haiku[20:20:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[20:20:22] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:20:53] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 5 commits to master [+232/-1/±8] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/052555337ee8...5476f8f9a8bc[20:20:54] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash bf53343 - guides/virtualizing/simnow: Fix image URLs.[20:20:56] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash c3d2fc8 - layouts: Fix CSS url() usages.[20:20:57] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 8ae26bd - content/community/gsoc/2016/students.html: Fix some more broken links.[20:20:59] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] ... and 2 more commits.[20:21:24] <jessicah> or is zlib different to libz?[20:21:24] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has joined #haiku[20:23:26] <miqlas> there is a zlib and libzip in HaikuPorts. I never know, which is which. But libuv definetly requires cmake.[20:24:55] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/5476f8f9a8bc...97e74ea7088d[20:24:57] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 97e74ea - faq: Fix more broken links.[20:25:42] * jessicah greatly dislikes cmake[20:27:16] * ohnx thinks jam is weird[20:27:19] <ohnx> i use make :)[20:27:30] <jessicah> jam is weird[20:27:57] <jessicah> it's 100% declarative[20:28:07] <miqlas> jessicah: : my mistake, libuv also doesn't depend on cmake[20:28:17] <ohnx> :o miqlas are you porting nodejs?[20:28:26] <miqlas> nope.[20:28:46] <miqlas> but ican try if you can provide a proper v8 recipe, thanks.[20:29:40] <ohnx> i want to :)[20:29:51] <ohnx> web+ and nodejs are things i want to work on[20:29:54] <ohnx> for giggles[20:29:58] *** Premislaus <Premislaus!~vision@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[20:30:07] <Premislaus> uptime[20:30:26] <Premislaus> OS Uptime [Haiku]: 5 mins 5.91 secs[20:30:45] <Premislaus> jessicah I'm on Haiku :).[20:31:43] <Premislaus> jessicah I have screen tearing - due to framebuffer? no opengl, no wi-fi, web+ crashes as hell, also screensaver, pkgman, but is fine[20:32:01] <Premislaus> jessicah someteimes my laptop switches off...[20:32:50] <Premislaus> jessicah Your EFI work is huge improvement[20:34:09] <jessicah> :p[20:35:33] <Premislaus> web+ is still bad :([20:36:24] <Diver> Premislaus: does it crash on Flurry screensaver?[20:40:24] <Premislaus> Diver yes[20:40:47] <Diver> Premislaus: filed a ticket for that[20:41:00] <Premislaus> bluetooth app is nice but do not see my Lumia 640[20:41:12] <Premislaus> and repository app is nice[20:41:35] <Premislaus> Diver probably I must filled 50 tickets...[20:41:51] <Diver> what's up with pkgman Premislaus?[20:42:22] <Premislaus> Diver wait, my mouse don't work, I'm using touchpad - is slow and laggy sometimes[20:42:47] <Diver> Premislaus: are you on a mac?[20:42:53] <Premislaus> no[20:43:54] <Premislaus> Ancient Samsung laptop, but mouse is connected to USB 3.0. I have two USB 2.0, but one is probably broken or defunct, and another port is occupied by flash stick with Haiku live cd[20:44:54] <Diver> ah[20:45:08] <Diver> and what's wrong with pkgman ?[20:46:19] *** AndrewZ <AndrewZ!4a4b0cb6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.75.12.182> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:46:45] <Premislaus> Diver https://justpaste.it/12h61[20:47:00] <Premislaus> Diver after pkgman update[20:47:27] <Diver> ah, yes, it's a known issue[20:47:40] <Diver> https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/10898[20:47:55] <Premislaus> Diver What is this in Web+? Ngix somethin or this document was moved 301 on top of app?[20:48:06] <Premislaus> on many sites[20:48:26] <Diver> also known issue, redirects don't fully work[20:48:49] <ohnx> yup redirects don't kill the requesting process[20:49:15] <Premislaus> I like new font rendering, letters are small, but overall looks better than two years ago.[20:50:06] <Premislaus> Diver Start web+, type onet.pl, and look in memory usage - memory leak[20:52:38] <punsith> is their any reson why library cant be resolve comes ??[20:54:24] <Diver> Premislaus: nice testcase! please file a ticket about it[20:54:58] <Diver> punsith: yes, package can have wrong provides[20:55:57] <Premislaus> Diver ok, this is normal tht web+ crashes very often on youtube, eats a lot of CPU, and do not render properly gmail?[20:56:01] <Diver> punsith: what does pkgman search gcrypt return?[20:56:40] <Diver> Premislaus: not exactly normal but kinda known. You could try QupZilla[20:57:10] <Begasus> for gmail I also use QupZilla[20:57:13] <Diver> Web+ is def not in the best shape yet wrt what you just listed[20:58:41] <ohnx> shh PulkoMandy is online[20:59:16] <punsith> driver it shows the library[20:59:24] <punsith> Diver[21:00:51] <punsith> https://thepasteb.in/p/RghnjDgDxMNSz[21:01:14] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+53/-0/±2] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/97e74ea7088d...23519aab3d6c[21:01:15] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 23519aa - development/{learning_to_program|programming}_with_haiku: Add PDFs.[21:01:26] <Barrett> Premislaus, UltraDV can work with any format supported by the media_kit[21:01:28] <Diver> punsith: you need to "pkgman install libgcrypt_devel"[21:01:50] <Barrett> while actually it's doing things in B_MEDIA_RAW_VIDEO I think in future will have more complex internal representation[21:01:57] <Barrett> allowing for key frames and things like that[21:02:09] <punsith> diver okay :)[21:04:13] <Premislaus> jessicah Why you current stage of EFI is not merged with regular nightly buld?[21:05:33] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/23519aab3d6c...01bc51552f54[21:05:35] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 01bc515 - programming_with_haiku: Add the missing(!?) Lesson 18.[21:06:06] <punsith> diver thank you it work and now it asking for a nother library i am doning same thing[21:08:09] <Diver> punsith: sure :)[21:09:08] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@dslb-188-106-146-066.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[21:11:02] <Diver> punsith: take a look at your other issues, most of them are about the same thing[21:11:39] <Diver> bonus points for figuring out why package provides are broken[21:12:13] <Diver> (some may be already fixed in haikuports but not yet in the repo)[21:12:55] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/01bc51552f54...92e48994d96a[21:12:56] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 92e4899 - layouts: Add an articles index.[21:14:37] <punsith> diver okay :D[21:16:56] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begasus@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:18:28] <punsith> diver is their any way to multiple install libraries[21:19:31] <Diver> sure, pkgman install lib1 lib2 lib3[21:20:04] <punsith> thank you :D[21:22:11] *** cucujoidea <cucujoidea!bc68d996@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.104.217.150> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[21:22:43] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+23/-0/±2] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/92e48994d96a...48a5cfce905c[21:22:44] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[21:22:45] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 48a5cfc - development: Fix the icon guidelines.[21:23:44] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/48a5cfce905c...3366d7c658d6[21:23:45] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] diversys 3366d7c - Fix BeShare link (#15)[21:25:53] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[21:35:30] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@212.69.17.18> has joined #haiku[21:35:30] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@212.69.17.18> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:35:30] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has joined #haiku[21:37:40] <PulkoMandy> ohnx: patches welcome for WebKit :D[21:38:02] <ohnx> yup! :D[21:38:06] <ohnx> it's just so large[21:38:12] <ohnx> i need to download it at school :p[21:38:43] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@dslb-188-106-146-066.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[21:39:05] <PulkoMandy> yes that's a problem. github should offer a "we ship a DVD to you" service :D[21:39:49] <miqlas-H64> re[21:41:03] <miqlas-H64> PulkoMandy: can you please look into this? https://github.com/libuv/libuv/pull/1188#issuecomment-272930515[21:41:32] <miqlas-H64> Tried to define -DB_USE_POSITIVE_POSIX_ERRORS in libuv and cmake recipe, but no dice :([21:47:11] *** Barrett_ <Barrett_!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[21:47:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett_[21:48:34] <Premislaus> Sometimes youtube works fine - http://youtube.com/watch?v=fik4PGCYpoE[21:48:37] *** bitkid_ <bitkid_!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #haiku[21:48:41] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:49:12] <Begasus> PulkoMandy ... around?[21:49:20] <PulkoMandy> yes[21:50:04] <Begasus> you are in charge of the packages going into the nightly's?[21:50:24] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:50:28] <Begasus> or one of them*[21:51:15] <Begasus> or the ones going into the depot*[21:52:39] <Begasus> I've had 5 libs still linking to libsdl.la (in the nightly I downloaded yesterday to do a install in VBox)[21:53:17] <Begasus> 3 of the recent recipes are ok (but the ones in the nightly are older then the recipe ones), 2 needs updating ...[21:53:35] *** bitkid_ <bitkid_!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:53:37] <Premislaus> OS Uptime [Haiku]: 1 hr 28 mins 15.302 secs[21:53:46] <Premislaus> I can't wait for Beta.[21:54:02] <Premislaus> I think Haiku is curenntly in good shape.[21:54:54] <Begasus> yeah, but some of the libs still need updating with the ones in the current nightly ... running Haiku in VBox is amazingly good :)[21:56:57] <PulkoMandy> Begasus: yes, I can update things[21:57:24] <PulkoMandy> ideally, if you can submit a pull request to the "release" branch of the haikuports repo, I can take the recipes from there and upload the packages[21:57:33] <PulkoMandy> (this will hopefully soon be automated...)[21:58:51] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD74A0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: stippi)[21:59:10] <Begasus> for sdl_ttf I already added one yesterday, for sdl_gfx I haven't done so far (just wanted to check out localy on VBox)[21:59:44] *** Klima <Klima!~Klima@static-78-8-176-191.ssp.dialog.net.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Quiit...)[22:00:02] <Begasus> sdl_mixer, libmikmod and smpeg can be updated with the current recipes[22:00:19] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:02:14] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #haiku[22:03:51] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/2901c1e1cd7b...15acb181d32b[22:03:53] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] dash102 15acb18 - espeak: builds on x86_64 now (#1051)[22:07:52] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-100-216.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[22:07:53] <Begasus> hmmm ... looking at the release branch in haikuports I already see that libmikmod is one revision behind master there PulkoMandy ...[22:09:29] <Begasus> sdl_image is behind 2 revisions (5 instead of 7)[22:10:18] <Begasus> smpeg also one revision behind ...[22:24:16] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@dslb-188-106-146-066.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:25:36] *** orealis <orealis!~cre8or@51.174.179.178> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:30:23] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@dslb-188-106-146-066.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[22:32:03] <owenca> Begasus i couldn't get Guest Additions to work on VBox.[22:32:23] <owenca> is it supported?[22:32:32] <FreeFull> I had a weird dream, where Haiku was some sort of display server for Linux, like X and Wayland[22:32:50] <Diver> owenca: what version of Haiku do you use?[22:33:00] <owenca> nightly[22:33:02] <FreeFull> And some stuff like Firefox had native support, and some didn't[22:33:07] <Diver> gcc2h?[22:33:34] <Paradoxon> FreeFull there where some attemps to port the appserver to linux and also to windows[22:33:35] <owenca> Diver anyboot[22:33:44] <owenca> VBox on Mac[22:33:50] <Diver> ok, so what doesn't work?[22:34:36] <owenca> i set up Guest Additions but can't copy/paste between Mac and VBox[22:34:36] <Diver> you need to enable clipboard in VM settings and start /bin/VBoxTray[22:35:07] <owenca> i didn't know /bin/VBoxTray[22:35:14] <owenca> will try that[22:35:29] <FreeFull> Paradoxon: I recall a Linux distro some number of years ago that was capable of running BeOS programs[22:35:43] <FreeFull> It was called e/OS or something[22:35:53] <FreeFull> Nothing like that exists nowadays though[22:36:07] <owenca> Diver how to enable clipboard in VBox?[22:36:07] *** swift110 <swift110!~swift1104@107.19.188.199> has joined #haiku[22:36:22] <Diver> in VM settings[22:36:42] <Diver> owenca: http://www.wintips.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/virtual-box-shared-clipboard.jpg[22:38:10] <owenca> oh i did that before but not /bin/VBoxTray[22:38:18] <owenca> thx![22:39:48] <owenca> i can't find VBoxTray in /bin[22:40:21] <owenca> Diver do i have to download it from somewhere?[22:41:25] <owenca> you are talking VBoxTray in Haiku or host? i looked /bin in both.[22:41:37] <Diver> owenca: pkgman install virtualbox_guest_additions[22:41:40] <FreeFull> In Haiku[22:41:46] <FreeFull> You don't need a tray in the host[22:41:57] <owenca> i see. thx[22:42:09] <Diver> https://depot.haiku-os.org/virtualbox_guest_additions[22:42:32] <PulkoMandy> FreeFull: I think you mean BlueEyedOS[22:42:47] <PulkoMandy> they still have a download page up, but the main dev lost the password for it so he can't update[22:43:09] <PulkoMandy> also, it wasn't binary compatible with BeOS, apps needed to be recompiled[22:43:30] <PulkoMandy> there was later a similar project called Cosmoe, which borrowed some code from Haiku[22:43:33] <FreeFull> PulkoMandy: Nope, I'm not thinking of BlueEyedOS[22:43:51] <PulkoMandy> as far as I know, anything else is vaporware?[22:44:15] *** Animal-X <Animal-X!~Animal-X@179.110.215.191> has joined #haiku[22:44:16] <FreeFull> The distro I'm thinking off also had built in Wine, and some other thing I think[22:44:58] <FreeFull> The goal was to have the support for binaries from four different OSes, all in one[22:45:48] <Paradoxon> jep found it on wikipedia..https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/E/OS[22:45:50] <owenca> Diver FreeFull http://pasteboard.co/mUpWHLbKA.png[22:45:53] <Paradoxon> but only in german :-D[22:46:30] <Diver> owenca: did it appear in Deskbar?[22:46:41] <FreeFull> Paradoxon: I'm surprised it has a Wikipedia page at all![22:47:24] <FreeFull> Oh, it was more than four OSes[22:47:38] <FreeFull> Windows, Mac OS, BeOS, OS/2, DOS, and Linux[22:47:53] <FreeFull> The actual kernel was Linux, so of course running Linux programs would be easy =P[22:48:43] <Paradoxon> we should contact that dev :) to help us out a little .. looks like he has some knowledge :-D[22:49:04] <FreeFull> I think the dev was Spanish[22:49:22] <FreeFull> After that they made some other Linux distro that didn't do the same stuff, I think[22:49:35] <Paradoxon> Miguel E. Chanampa :-D[22:50:41] <owenca> Diver no[22:51:28] <owenca> http://pasteboard.co/mUvLV2Xyj.png[22:51:52] <Diver> owenca: let me check, it's been awhile since I used Haiku in vbox[22:52:09] <owenca> http://pasteboard.co/mUwxDfWaF.png[22:52:15] <owenca> ok[22:54:33] * Diver updates to the latest nightly[22:55:15] *** swift110 <swift110!~swift1104@107.19.188.199> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:06:45] *** Animal-X <Animal-X!~Animal-X@179.110.215.191> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)[23:07:29] *** Animal-X <Animal-X!~Animal-X@179.110.215.191> has joined #haiku[23:07:33] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [+1/-0/±3] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/3366d7c658d6...8bdae1b80bd1[23:07:34] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 52b14b3 - css: font-weight 600 -> bold.[23:07:36] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 8bdae1b - layouts/index: Add the "What's New in Haiku Development" box.[23:09:47] <Diver> owenca: works fine with the same exact output[23:10:43] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-100-216.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[23:11:31] *** swift110 <swift110!~swift1104@107.19.188.199> has joined #haiku[23:11:47] *** swift110 <swift110!~swift1104@107.19.188.199> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:13:03] <owenca> Diver should it be in the Applications list i sent you?[23:13:20] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[23:13:30] <Diver> no, it should be in Deskbat shelf[23:13:48] <Vidrep> Hi[23:14:00] <Diver> owenca: and it's there! so it's all fine and should work[23:14:07] <owenca> can you send me the image how it looks like?[23:14:31] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: barrett * hrev50877 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=7561d9ac5d92+%5Eedbb68258b9c[23:14:33] <HAIKU-irker458> 41acdd1d90c2: media_kit: Move some files and headers under docs/develop/media[23:14:33] <HAIKU-irker458> 7561d9ac5d92: Populate media/experimental with future media_kit classes[23:15:09] <owenca> Diver after i ran VBoxTray, the deskbar refreshed but no change[23:15:42] <Diver> owenca: on your screenshot it's between mail icon and time http://pasteboard.co/mUwxDfWaF.png[23:15:52] <Diver> see blue icon[23:16:05] *** mixomathoze <mixomathoze!~mixomatho@33.11-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:16:18] <owenca> Diver oh![23:16:28] <owenca> cool[23:16:29] <Vidrep> Which of the devs is the printing/scanning guru, besides phoudoin?[23:16:32] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:16:53] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:17:02] <axeld> Vidrep: Michael Pfeiffer, but I haven't heard from him in a while[23:17:23] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:17:37] <Vidrep> Hey axeld![23:18:12] <Vidrep> You must have found time from family. I see you made a few bug fixes.[23:18:36] <axeld> Vidrep: yeah, the situation is slowly improving :-)[23:18:51] <axeld> Hopefully that trend continues[23:19:17] <Vidrep> axeld, I guess I'm SOL insofar as making any progress to help with Haiku printing.[23:20:07] <Vidrep> humdinger and I are working our way through some of the easy fixes, like in the dialogs etc. We can't do much else though...[23:20:37] <axeld> Excuses, excuses ;-)[23:21:04] <Vidrep> I've been accumulating printers for testing (2xHP, 2xCanon, 2xEpson, 1xBrother)[23:21:50] <axeld> Last time I needed to print, it worked, but that was a few years ago (from Haiku).[23:22:06] <Begasus> would be nice to be able to do some basic printing in Haiku also here :)[23:22:30] *** mixomathoze <mixomathoze!~mixomatho@189.79-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has joined #haiku[23:22:35] <Vidrep> As it is right now, Epson printers are the way to go (printing and scanning supported)[23:23:22] <Vidrep> Sanity chokes badly on Canon scanners, and doesn't work at all with HP[23:23:36] <Begasus> nice Vidrep, ps ... for the hp printers did you have a look at hplip?[23:23:51] <Vidrep> Printing with Canon and HP is a mixed bag[23:24:24] <axeld> night![23:24:29] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-188-118-181-239.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[23:24:45] <Premislaus> Probaby I found bug in DriveSetup. When I create BFS on pendrvide, then that partiton has only 900 KiB instead 13 GiB.[23:24:53] <Vidrep> I'm spending a fortune on those ink cartridges - more than the printers (which I pick up free)[23:25:12] <Vidrep> Good night axeld[23:25:15] <Premislaus> *pendrive[23:26:43] <Vidrep> Begasus, there are deeper problems besides hardware support in Haiku printing[23:27:20] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.71.9.164.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[23:27:44] <Begasus> probably Vidrep ... but couldn't hurt to ask :)[23:32:24] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3249 of haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build <repository>Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/3249 blamelist: Dario Casalinuovo <b.vitruvio at gmail dot com>[23:36:58] *** Animal-X <Animal-X!~Animal-X@179.110.215.191> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:37:11] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3370 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build <repository>Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/3370 blamelist: Dario Casalinuovo <b.vitruvio at gmail dot com>[23:37:16] *** Animal-X <Animal-X!~Animal-X@179.110.215.191> has joined #haiku[23:37:22] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3162 of haiku-repository-x86_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build <repository>Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_hybrid/builds/3162 blamelist: Dario Casalinuovo <b.vitruvio at gmail dot com>[23:37:33] *** Animal-X <Animal-X!~Animal-X@179.110.215.191> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:38:24] <miqlas-H64> jessicah or somebody can tell me, whats wrong with my haiku source tree? "/Ports/haiku/generated/objects/haiku/x86_64/release/system/boot/platform/bios_ia32/bios_ia32/boot_platform_bios_ia32.o: In function `BIOSDrive::ReadAt(void*, long long, void*, unsigned long)':"[23:39:50] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3385 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build <repository>Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/3385 blamelist: Dario Casalinuovo <b.vitruvio at gmail dot com>[23:40:20] *** Animal-X <Animal-X!~Animal-X@179.110.215.191> has joined #haiku[23:40:26] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)[23:40:57] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3251 of haiku-master-x86 is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build <repository>Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86/builds/3251 blamelist: Dario Casalinuovo <b.vitruvio at gmail dot com>[23:49:10] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3098 of haiku-repository-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build <repository>Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_64/builds/3098 blamelist: Dario Casalinuovo <b.vitruvio at gmail dot com>[23:50:04] <owenca> Diver shared clipboard works, but drag n drop doesn't[23:50:37] <owenca> i set up shared folders[23:51:11] <owenca> but either drag/drop doesn't work or i don't know how to use it[23:53:56] <owenca> Diver http://pasteboard.co/mVzxYL5mC.png[23:54:13] <owenca> http://pasteboard.co/mVzQWSVu6.png[23:56:23] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:59:24] <Begasus> 'night[23:59:26] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begasus@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[23:59:41] <owenca> Diver how to move files between host and haiku vm via shared folders?