January 12, 2017 
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January 12, 2017 [00:00:52] <Dacian> now i got another error[00:01:04] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@217.112.129.1> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[00:04:27] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[00:04:55] <waddlesplash> Dacian: try using make install[00:05:00] <waddlesplash> instead of whatever you're using now[00:05:22] <waddlesplash> Dacian: for INSTALL i mean[00:05:37] <Dacian> ok[00:06:47] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[00:07:49] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[00:07:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[00:08:11] <Dacian> @waddlesplash now i got another error[00:08:13] <Dacian> :))[00:09:19] <waddlesplash> Dacian: ok?[00:09:31] <Dacian> wait[00:09:34] * waddlesplash is away: dinner[00:10:04] <owenca> hi Skipp_OSX[00:10:14] <Skipp_OSX> hello owenca[00:10:31] <owenca> i couldn't get it to work[00:11:12] <owenca> i could wrap the icon in a view but not the flashing circles below the sliders[00:11:42] <owenca> the circles are in a rectangle[00:13:38] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has left #haiku[00:15:05] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@217.112.129.1> has joined #haiku[00:15:10] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[00:16:46] <Dacian> guys can you help me with this http://collabedit.com/n7nhq ?[00:19:46] <Dacian> miqlas-H64[00:19:58] <Dacian> can you help me with this http://pastebin.com/76PJsypT ?[00:23:10] <Dacian> I will let here the error[00:23:10] <Dacian> http://collabedit.com/n7nhq[00:23:12] *** Dacian <Dacian!5f4cbda7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.76.189.167> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[00:23:26] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:26:57] <owenca> http://pastebin.com/YsCHqBRu[00:31:48] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:186a:e60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:36:40] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@217.112.129.1> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:46:43] <waddlesplash> So, my first Netflix Recommends email was "Serenity" (loved that)[00:46:58] <waddlesplash> Now it thinks I'll like ... "Alice Through the Looking Glass"[00:46:59] <waddlesplash> Nope.[00:57:01] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.175> has joined #haiku[01:00:09] *** Duggan <Duggan!~Duggan@adsl-74-243-46-190.bix.bellsouth.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[01:13:57] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[01:21:03] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has joined #haiku[01:34:43] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[01:39:03] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[01:39:20] <Vidrep> Hi[01:42:52] <ohnx> hola[01:45:36] <Vidrep> How many of the GCI students are planning on continuing with Haiku after the end of the week?[01:46:51] <Vidrep> Just because GCI is over, and you've got your T-shirt (or whatever), does not mean that you can't continue the learning process[01:47:56] <Vidrep> Hi ValeT! Just noticed that you're logged in today[01:49:38] <DHowett> me![01:49:46] <DHowett> my GCI ended in 2008 and I never left[01:50:51] <_Dario> Hi Vidrep[01:50:54] <_Dario> hola ohnx[01:54:20] <ohnx> i plan on stayong[01:54:30] <ohnx> i want to get nodejs working on haiku[01:54:39] <ohnx> and fix redirects on web+[01:57:11] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[01:57:20] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[02:03:09] <Vidrep> Hi _Dario[02:03:35] <Vidrep> ohnx, good to hear[02:07:03] <Vidrep> _Dario, thanks for the Spanish catkeys for BurnItNow and other apps[02:11:55] *** pebble` <pebble`!~pebble@unaffiliated/espiral> has joined #haiku[02:13:15] <_Dario> Your welcome![02:13:29] <_Dario> Also, I get a pair of blank CDs to test the app[02:17:45] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@p001.gate.atson.jp> has joined #haiku[02:23:47] *** Duggan <Duggan!4af32ebe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.243.46.190> has joined #haiku[02:24:29] <Duggan> jessicah: you around?[02:26:28] <Skipp_OSX> bbl[02:26:30] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@173-14-248-42-washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:32:22] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[02:36:14] *** Duggan <Duggan!4af32ebe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.243.46.190> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:44:30] *** pfoetchen <pfoetchen!~pfoetchen@beiboot1.petschge.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:44:37] *** pfoetchen <pfoetchen!~pfoetchen@beiboot1.petschge.de> has joined #haiku[02:46:24] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[03:14:22] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[03:18:38] *** Malmis <Malmis!malmis@h-190-139.a486.priv.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:24:49] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[03:24:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[03:26:00] *** Duggan <Duggan!~Duggan@adsl-74-243-46-190.bix.bellsouth.net> has joined #haiku[03:26:13] <Duggan> yay downgrade :/[03:44:09] <jessicah> Duggan: I'm about[04:01:09] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@blk-137-108-156.eastlink.ca> has joined #haiku[04:01:33] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@blk-137-108-156.eastlink.ca> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:14:15] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[04:14:27] <Duggan> jessicah see that ticket?[04:15:03] <Duggan> #13199[04:15:31] <waddlesplash> Duggan: looks like it's due to the change PulkoMandy made[04:15:38] <waddlesplash> those apps will need to be fixed[04:15:40] <Duggan> yay! it's not just me![04:15:46] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:17:51] *** tresh <tresh!~vision@92.188.42.24> has joined #haiku[04:19:13] <jessicah> hmm, BString::operator[](int)[04:22:06] <jessicah> ah, it's been removed entirely for non-gcc2[04:22:58] <Duggan> :/[04:23:03] <Duggan> PulkoMandy SHAME ON YOU![04:23:26] <jessicah> yeah, he's broken ABI[04:23:32] <jessicah> it's part of the BeOS ABI[04:23:44] <Duggan> he must've been drunk.... I know he knows better :P[04:26:23] <Duggan> what would you guys do without me :>[04:27:38] * Duggan guesses the same thing you've been doing for the last 5 years...[04:30:49] <jessicah> :p[04:32:54] <jessicah> seems the consensus back in 2008 was that "don't need backwards compatibility for non-gcc2"[04:33:02] <jessicah> and almost 10 years later, decides to make the change[04:37:26] <Duggan> heh... the truth is, you don't need backward compatibility for non-gcc2 because non-gcc2 can't run legacy software anyway[04:38:16] <Duggan> (but if you change something that breaks software, it should be your job to fix it :P)[04:38:45] <Duggan> besides, why do away with BString:operator[](int)?[04:39:16] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has joined #haiku[04:39:22] <ohnx> why not? :D[04:39:58] <Duggan> because it's useful[04:40:19] <ohnx> https://xkcd.com/1172/[04:41:43] <Duggan> yeah, already saw it[04:44:38] <jessicah> Duggan: it's only the non-const version gone[04:44:58] <jessicah> so like const char c = myBString[x]; should still work[04:46:37] <jessicah> I would think char c = myBstring[x] should work too, as it would just do a copy[04:46:58] <jessicah> but I'm not entirely sure[04:47:10] <Duggan> where is sqlite3.h at now? I forgot...[04:55:27] <Duggan> https://xkcd.com/722/[04:55:34] <jessicah> Duggan: will just have to modify source & build[04:56:08] <jessicah> and then, do it again when the API changes agaiin[04:56:12] <jessicah> as it needs to be renamed[04:56:12] <Duggan> I kind of like the idea of rolling back the breaking changes myself :P[04:56:13] <jessicah> :p[04:56:19] <jessicah> mm[04:56:45] <ohnx> trying to build an efi without gnu-efi rn[05:01:52] <jessicah> heh[05:02:31] <Duggan> haha https://xkcd.com/928/[05:05:38] <jessicah> :D[05:14:36] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[05:16:45] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[05:20:25] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: autocommitter * hrev50862 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=bcf11b8a24bb+%5E7556ae845bc0[05:20:26] <HAIKU-irker458> bcf11b8a24bb: Update pci.ids from pciids.sourceforge.net[05:32:03] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@p001.gate.atson.jp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[05:39:50] <ohnx> hey jessicah did you know that tqh made a efi thing?[05:40:03] <ohnx> without gnuefi directly, just a slimmed down version of it[05:49:42] <Duggan> so close to giving up again... this is ridiculous...[05:50:08] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@fp76f0d516.tkyc507.ap.nuro.jp> has joined #haiku[05:51:09] <Duggan> so I've got a BFilePanel... or at least I should... linker says theres undefined references to the constructor and BFilePanel::Show() functions (and I'm sure if I called any others, they wouldn't work either...[05:51:20] <Duggan> I'm including FilePanel.h and I"m linking against libbe.so[05:52:59] <Duggan> included InterfaceKit.h and now it's saying they're not declared in that scope[05:53:59] <Duggan> I'm completely at a loss as to how to do anything anymore... everythings broken[06:01:28] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.175> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[06:16:31] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[06:18:38] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:43:10] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@fp76f0d516.tkyc507.ap.nuro.jp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:47:15] <Diver> Duggan: libtracker.so?[07:00:28] *** tresh <tresh!~vision@92.188.42.24> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[07:04:36] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@p001.gate.atson.jp> has joined #haiku[07:06:08] <PulkoMandy> hi[07:06:39] <PulkoMandy> that API in BString was broken, because it allowed to do char* internalData = &someString[0]; // DANGEROUS[07:07:04] <PulkoMandy> the version that returns only a char (by copy) is still there, and that should be all you need[07:07:48] <PulkoMandy> the only exception is if you want to change the string, in which case you have SetCharAt, which unlike operator[] will properly handle updating internal reference counts[07:08:26] <PulkoMandy> otherwise you had this bug: BString a("hello"); BString b(a); b[1] = 'a'; // now a == "hallo"[07:08:59] <PulkoMandy> with SetCharAt it will "makewritable" the string so it doesn't share its data with other strings anymore, before changing it[07:09:12] <PulkoMandy> and if you need more complex things, you have to use LockBuffer()[07:15:56] <jessicah> why can't that be done with operator[] version too?[07:18:27] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[07:19:42] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[07:19:59] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[07:23:26] <jessicah> nvm, saw your email[07:26:20] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hrppxpxitourznth> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[07:39:25] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #haiku[07:48:48] *** King_Warg <King_Warg!~Wildman@184-15-207-213.dsl2.chtn.wv.frontiernet.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[07:49:44] *** King_Warg <King_Warg!~Wildman@184-15-207-213.dsl2.chtn.wv.frontiernet.net> has joined #haiku[07:57:24] <Duggan> PulkoMandy could you override & in that case to prevent that from happening?[07:57:42] <Duggan> overload*[07:58:20] <Duggan> Diver BFilePanel is in libtracker.so? when did that happen?[07:59:32] <Duggan> I like how you said that like it's common knowledge :P[07:59:34] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has joined #haiku[08:00:04] <Diver> Duggan: ~> grep -rni bfilepanel /system/develop/headers/os/[08:00:17] <Diver> dunno, I think it always used to be like that[08:01:08] <Duggan> no, I've got projects I've been trying to update that I'm pretty sure didn't link against it before... I can look though... one sec[08:01:09] <Diver> …or not[08:01:20] * Diver is confused myself a bit[08:03:13] <Duggan> or not... Niue projects :/[08:03:15] <Diver> at least file panel is part of tracker[08:03:32] <Duggan> yeah I added it to my project and apparently it compiles now... thank you[08:07:52] <Duggan> yep, works.... thanks Diver :)[08:09:54] <Diver> np :)[08:11:59] <Duggan> I have a text file of raw output from another program that's over 250 megs so I'm trying to write a little utility that will allow me to view it[08:19:43] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[08:20:43] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:27:16] <jessicah> PulkoMandy: are you working on renaming SetCharAt atm?[08:30:43] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/1735991a278b...2a52884c3ccf[08:30:45] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] dash102 2a52884 - bonnie++, lha, pigz, testdisk: enable x86_64 (#1042)[08:37:09] <Duggan> Diver, for future reference: The Haiku Book says the BFilePanel class is part of the Storage Kit (libbe.so) (which is obviously wrong)[08:37:21] <Duggan> https://api.haiku-os.org/classBFilePanel.html[08:39:15] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[08:46:51] *** iMe <iMe!~iMe@94.136.92.20> has joined #haiku[09:00:43] *** iMe <iMe!~iMe@94.136.92.20> has quit IRC (Quit: ZZZzzz…)[09:00:56] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:186a:e60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has joined #haiku[09:01:51] *** iMe <iMe!~iMe@94.136.92.20> has joined #haiku[09:03:32] *** Malmis <Malmis!malmis@h-190-139.a486.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #haiku[09:05:08] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[09:19:28] *** iMe <iMe!~iMe@94.136.92.20> has quit IRC (Quit: ZZZzzz…)[09:20:17] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p5DC230D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[09:20:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[09:21:17] *** iMe <iMe!~iMe@94.136.92.20> has joined #haiku[09:22:14] *** iMe <iMe!~iMe@94.136.92.20> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:23:17] *** iMe <iMe!~iMe@94.136.92.20> has joined #haiku[09:27:35] *** iMe <iMe!~iMe@94.136.92.20> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:34:27] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A29257.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[09:36:07] <Duggan> broken link: https://www.haiku-os.org/development/programming_with_haiku source link for lesson 22 is broken[09:37:24] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p2003005B441FBD00022314FFFEAF6410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[09:37:54] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #haiku[09:57:48] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A29257.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[10:07:13] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:186a:e60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:10:08] *** scottmc <scottmc!~scottmc@c-67-174-194-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[10:14:06] *** Dacian <Dacian!5f4c6709@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.76.103.9> has joined #haiku[10:14:18] <Dacian> hello[10:16:53] <Dacian> i have in my recipe in install a line with : packageEntires devel \ $develop Dir and build says it doesn't recognize it[10:16:55] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has left #haiku[10:20:18] *** Dacian_ <Dacian_!5f4c6709@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.76.103.9> has joined #haiku[10:20:41] <Dacian_> @jessicah are you here?[10:21:58] <jessicah> yeah[10:24:04] *** Dacian <Dacian!5f4c6709@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.76.103.9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[10:24:23] <Dacian_> @jessicah i have a line in my recipe with command packageEntires[10:24:51] <Dacian_> and when i build it, hp says it doesn't recognize that command[10:25:00] <jessicah> it creates a secondary package[10:25:15] <jessicah> well what you've wriiten here has a typo[10:25:28] <jessicah> so if you pasted it, then that's your problem ;)[10:28:12] <Dacian_> @jessicah this is the recipe and output https://pastebin.com/MxZcDSQ0[10:28:55] <jessicah> as I said, typo[10:29:11] <jessicah> packageEntires => packageEntries[10:29:38] <Dacian_> ....[10:29:39] <Dacian_> thx[10:29:51] <jessicah> :)[10:33:12] <Dacian_> now i've got another output[10:33:25] <Dacian_> an policy error with location[10:35:23] <Dacian_> @jessicah https://pastebin.com/X0AZ97ff[10:41:31] <Dacian_> PulkoMandy can you help me with that[10:41:31] <Dacian_> ?[10:45:14] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@p001.gate.atson.jp> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:47:23] <Dacian_> is here anyone who can help me with this policy error https://pastebin.com/X0AZ97ff ?[10:58:16] *** Dacian_ <Dacian_!5f4c6709@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.76.103.9> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[11:11:20] *** Ace__ <Ace__!24479838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.36.71.152.56> has joined #haiku[11:12:01] <Ace__> hello[11:12:34] <jessicah> hihi[11:16:16] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:16:44] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[11:21:44] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[11:21:57] <Ace__> I still don't understand, how to separate my pull request[11:21:57] <Ace__> lol[11:23:34] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:29:00] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] jessicah pushed 2 commits to master [+2/-2/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/2a52884c3ccf...53b60b8da196[11:29:01] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] jessicah fc2a2d9 - Revert "gawk: downgrade to 4.1.0."[11:29:03] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] jessicah 53b60b8 - gawk: remove hack to disable multibyte support.[11:34:12] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #haiku[11:35:10] *** jessicah` <jessicah`!~jessicat@unaffiliated/jessicah> has joined #haiku[11:35:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jessicah`[11:37:45] <jessicah`> Ace__: what do you mean?[11:38:02] <jessicah`> you have multiple commits in your pull request?[11:38:09] <jessicah`> from different apps?[11:45:45] <jessicah`> Duggan: ugh, I can't even build Pe[11:46:12] <jessicah`> so no Pe with pulko's commit =/[12:03:42] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has joined #haiku[12:08:06] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@78-131-38-166.pool.digikabel.hu> has joined #haiku[12:09:44] <miqlas-H64> Hi![12:12:36] <jessicah`> hi miqlas-H64[12:14:47] *** jessicah` <jessicah`!~jessicat@unaffiliated/jessicah> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[12:16:38] <miqlas-H64> Hi jessicah.[12:17:00] <miqlas-H64> I just checking my activity graph on github, and must to say, i had a pretty active 2016.[12:17:40] <miqlas-H64> lot of ports for Haiku, some upstreaming, some "make the world a better place" things, and so on.[12:19:01] <miqlas-H64> i have yet a big task on my todo list: neovim. But it have some really strange deps. Have to check and port them.[12:19:09] <miqlas-H64> And how doing down under?[12:19:32] <miqlas-H64> btw: my power level : 2 Jäger, 1 beer.[12:21:34] <miqlas-H64> And we had -15 °C again today morning.[12:27:37] <Ace__> hmm[12:27:38] <Ace__> i mean[12:27:49] <Ace__> like, my previous commit also merge[12:31:29] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p5DC230D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[12:31:44] <jessicah> goes okay down here, squashing bugs where I can[12:39:30] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A29257.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[12:39:48] <miqlas-H64> i've seen your ICU changes, thanks for hunting them down.[12:45:05] *** Diver_ <Diver_!6d4922f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.73.34.242> has joined #haiku[12:45:32] *** tresh <tresh!~vision@92.188.42.24> has joined #haiku[12:45:57] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A29257.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: euver)[12:49:15] <miqlas-H64> jessicah and guys, any idea, what could i do, if cmake says: "Argument too big" ?[12:50:02] <miqlas-H64> This stuff compiles fine outside of Haikuporter. I think it passes really long args to cmake, and it makes problems for cmake.[12:50:11] <miqlas-H64> or make, in this case[12:50:47] <miqlas-H64> cmake finishes without problem, but the make prcess bailing out in the middle of the session[12:53:59] <jessicah> Ace__: uh, have you created a new branch?[12:56:09] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[12:57:05] <xdizzaster> Hi! Can someone tell me if there is something wrong with hard links on Haiku? I keep getting 'operation not supported'[12:57:05] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:58:34] <miqlas-H64> xdizzaster: Haiku have no hard-link supoort, afaik[12:58:37] <jessicah> BFS doesn't support hard links[12:58:48] <miqlas-H64> try to patch it to use symlinks[12:59:08] <xdizzaster> Oh, ok, thanks[12:59:14] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: jessicah * hrev50863 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e3c6ca65896c+%5Ebcf11b8a24bb[12:59:15] <HAIKU-irker458> e3c6ca65896c: gpt: add pointer to the GPT header for child partitions.[12:59:49] <jessicah> that's that bug squished[12:59:58] <xdizzaster> jessicah, is it like something that is missing by design or by implementation?[13:00:10] <jessicah> wondered why behaviour was different to all the testing I had done[13:00:14] <miqlas-H64> xdizzaster: BeFS not support them.[13:00:27] <jessicah> it's a limitation in the design/implementation of BFS[13:00:39] <xdizzaster> got it, thanks a lot![13:00:58] <jessicah> I'm not sure if there is a possibility to extend BFS to support hardlinks[13:01:09] <jessicah> depends on the on-disk structure[13:06:21] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/53b60b8da196...4c54be248eff[13:06:23] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] raefaldhia 4c54be2 - 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community/index.html: Reapply changes from @kallisti5 lost in the merge.[17:29:31] *** scottmc <scottmc!~scottmc@c-67-174-194-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[17:32:58] *** whk <whk!b6373974@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.55.57.116> has joined #haiku[17:33:47] <humdinger> Is anyone able to see HaikuDepot's rss feed in a rss-app?[17:33:48] <humdinger> https://depot.haiku-os.org/#/pkg/feed/builder[17:35:01] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[17:37:45] *** petrichorx_ <petrichorx_!uid147077@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngfbetqukbrwnpad> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[17:40:04] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/5a0311845fb0...0b3afa497270[17:40:06] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] kallisti5 0b3afa4 - logo: Add SVG logo that scales with High DPI (#12)[17:46:34] *** lezsakdomi <lezsakdomi!~led@540354BE.catv.pool.telekom.hu> has joined #haiku[18:07:49] *** PulkoMandy <PulkoMandy!~pulkomand@aus31-1-78-207-239-160.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[18:08:11] *** Dacian <Dacian!5f4cbda7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.76.189.167> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[18:08:25] *** Dacian <Dacian!5f4cbda7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.76.189.167> has joined #haiku[18:09:42] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@2603:3023:80d:c600:1928:15b:1c11:414d> has joined #haiku[18:09:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[18:11:00] *** PulkoMandy <PulkoMandy!~pulkomand@aus31-1-78-207-239-160.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[18:17:39] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[18:17:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[18:22:32] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 4 commits to master [+4/-0/±5] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/0b3afa497270...70b3e3c595b6[18:22:33] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] kallisti5 13627a3 - shortcodes: Add alert box shortcode[18:22:35] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] kallisti5 2be9f31 - shortcodes: Add keyboard button shortcode[18:22:36] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] kallisti5 669dc9f - css: Fix inline button keyboard key[18:22:38] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] kallisti5 70b3e3c - README: Add mention of keyboard shortcode[18:23:08] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-3/±0] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/70b3e3c595b6...951f53a01e08[18:23:10] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] kallisti5 951f53a - Document cleanup (#14)[18:27:12] *** qeos <qeos!~kvirc@37.204.81.98> has joined #haiku[18:27:40] *** whk <whk!b6373974@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.55.57.116> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[18:30:07] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@84-230-9-160.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #haiku[18:30:22] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@84-230-9-160.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:30:53] <Dacian> @humdinger hello[18:32:35] <Dacian> guys, i'm making a recipe for midikeyboard[18:33:01] <Dacian> and in build a have make command[18:33:43] <Dacian> and output from hp midikeyboard is makefile:116: etc/makefile-engine no such file or dir[18:34:37] <Dacian> anyone???[18:34:38] <waddlesplash> Dacian: makefile_engine needs to be in prerequires[18:34:47] <waddlesplash> see other recipes with it[18:34:48] <Dacian> it is[18:35:13] <Dacian> it is already there[18:35:28] <waddlesplash> ok, so the recipe must have a too old makefile[18:35:37] <waddlesplash> you'll need to remake the makefile from the new temaple[18:35:43] <waddlesplash> (Tracker -> New Makefile has the latest template)[18:37:07] <Dacian> do you talk about traker from underside of clock?[18:37:16] <humdinger> hi[18:37:19] <humdinger> that's deskbar[18:37:30] <humdinger> he mand right-click e.g. on the desktop[18:37:39] <humdinger> New -> makefile[18:37:49] <Dacian> ok[18:37:52] <humdinger> *he meant, I meant[18:38:10] <Dacian> and what should i add in this?[18:38:19] <humdinger> It's the last line that's probably out-of date[18:40:00] <Dacian> http://pastebin.com/SK3DDSsH[18:40:53] <humdinger> fork midikeyboard, clone fork, change line in makefile, commit, push, make a pr[18:41:10] <Dacian> do you mean last line status[18:41:20] <humdinger> no in the makefile.[18:41:42] <Dacian> yes in make file lastline from srcs is status[18:42:24] <humdinger> I don't understand. the lst line from the app's makefile is out-of-date[18:42:41] <humdinger> compare to the makefile you made with Tracker's "New"...[18:44:14] <Dacian> they are the same[18:44:24] * humdinger looks[18:44:58] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[18:45:09] <humdinger> This is in the old makefile of midikeyboard:[18:45:10] <humdinger> include $(BUILDHOME)/etc/makefile-engine[18:45:20] <humdinger> Tis in the new makefile:[18:45:22] <humdinger> DEVEL_DIRECTORY := \[18:45:23] <humdinger> $(shell findpaths -r "makefile_engine" B_FIND_PATH_DEVELOP_DIRECTORY)[18:45:23] <humdinger> include $(DEVEL_DIRECTORY)/etc/makefile-engine[18:45:27] <humdinger> not the same[18:45:58] <Dacian> http://imgur.com/a/uPLf7[18:46:20] <humdinger> click the right-most icon[18:46:27] <humdinger> to sse the useful text version.[18:46:37] <humdinger> I wish I could teach Pe to stop doing that...[18:48:28] <Dacian> i do not understand[18:48:29] <Dacian> :))[18:48:47] <humdinger> in your screenshot, click of the right-most icon in Pe.[18:49:23] <Dacian> and it opened iconmenuitem[18:49:55] <humdinger> ? the icon that looks like the Pe icon[18:50:51] <Dacian> no :) do you men right click on the Pe which is underside of webpositive>[18:50:52] <Dacian> ?[18:50:55] <Dacian> mean[18:51:46] <humdinger> let's do this. Don't double-click, but right-click and open with StyledEdit[18:52:09] <humdinger> (not in Deskbar, in the makefile opened in Pe's useless window)[18:52:15] <Dacian> dpme[18:52:17] <Dacian> done[18:52:21] <Dacian> no i understand[18:53:28] <Dacian> you meant to open makefile with stylededit[18:54:05] <humdinger> yes, if you can't make Pe open the text version of the makefile.[18:54:18] <humdinger> then compare the old midikeyboard one with the newly created one.[18:54:20] <Dacian> now i've opened both[18:56:44] <Dacian> i've fixed it[18:57:09] <humdinger> see if it now builds before creating the PR.[18:57:15] <humdinger> maybe other things need fixing.[18:57:18] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:186a:e60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has joined #haiku[18:57:21] <Dacian> it builds[18:57:36] <humdinger> Then PR[18:57:38] <Dacian> thx for tips[18:57:43] <humdinger> np[18:59:34] <Dacian> recipe works too[18:59:36] <Dacian> :)[19:00:12] <humdinger> native Haiku apps are normally pretty easily recepied.[19:02:22] *** savant_d <savant_d!~savant@178.162.117.40> has joined #haiku[19:02:34] <Dacian> @humdinger btw, i didn't find summary and description for midikeyboard...[19:03:51] <humdinger> Try it out and make something up. :)[19:03:59] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[19:04:17] <Dacian> i do not know what this app does[19:04:22] <Dacian> :)[19:04:51] <humdinger> "An onscreen midi keyboard"[19:04:56] <humdinger> that's the summary right there.[19:07:54] *** Ace__ <Ace__!24479838@gateway/web/freenode/ip.36.71.152.56> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:07:55] <Dacian> thx[19:08:03] <Dacian> now i have to make a description[19:08:48] <humdinger> See what features you could describe[19:09:05] *** e1z0__ <e1z0__!~textual@netlinux/founder/e1z0> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[19:09:39] <humdinger> You can open MidiPlayer and your MidiKeyboard[19:09:59] <humdinger> In MidiPlayer choose the keyboard as "Live input"[19:10:32] <humdinger> In MidiKeyboard, click in the bottem left corner to set the output.[19:11:03] <Dacian> how can i open them?[19:11:42] <humdinger> MidiKeyboard you just built.[19:11:50] <humdinger> MidiPlayer is in Deskbar Applications[19:12:13] <humdinger> You may need a soundfont, if it's not installed already.[19:12:20] <humdinger> you can get one from haikuDepot[19:13:29] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p2003005B441FBD00022314FFFEAF6410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:14:15] <Dacian> it give me the package[19:14:17] *** premislaus <premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[19:14:47] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@2603:3023:80d:c600:1928:15b:1c11:414d> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:14:56] <premislaus> hello[19:14:58] <Dacian> hi[19:15:01] <humdinger> hi premislaus[19:15:27] <premislaus> PulkoMandy I added pictures - https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/13200[19:15:47] <Dacian> @hum haikudepot cannot see package for midikeyboard[19:16:06] <humdinger> you just build it.[19:16:18] <humdinger> either you have the binary around from the build,[19:16:23] <humdinger> or the package you just built.[19:16:38] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e36386f.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[19:17:00] *** _Dario <_Dario!~yaaic@181.103.99.135> has joined #haiku[19:17:22] <Dacian> i think this should be in media music[19:17:26] <Dacian> right?[19:17:45] <humdinger> haiku-apps[19:17:54] <Dacian> ok[19:34:01] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.moscow.rt.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[19:34:24] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.moscow.rt.ru> has joined #haiku[19:35:48] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/4c54be248eff...4903ea2ec002[19:35:50] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] xdizzaster 4903ea2 - libksba: added recipe (#1048)[19:36:10] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@2603:3023:80d:c600:1928:15b:1c11:414d> has joined #haiku[19:36:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[19:48:41] *** balazs23 <balazs23!2e6bc410@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.107.196.16> has joined #haiku[19:48:51] *** balazs23 <balazs23!2e6bc410@gateway/web/freenode/ip.46.107.196.16> has left #haiku[20:04:36] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[20:06:41] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[20:06:59] <premislaus> Is Haiku able to connect TV with laptop via HDMI?[20:08:53] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@2603:3023:80d:c600:1928:15b:1c11:414d> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:09:02] <Vidrep> Hi[20:09:33] <Vidrep> Just like premislaus, I have a no-boot condition with Haiku hrev50857[20:10:33] <Vidrep> Trying to install x86_gcc2 only gets to the rocket icon, then freezes. x86_64 will KDL every time[20:11:06] <Vidrep> Shall I attach photos and serial debug logs to his ticket?[20:14:57] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[20:15:05] <premislaus> Vidrep I went to the store today. I bought a CD-RW disc. Haiku starts - for a very long time on a laptop with Bay Trail. I had to use a fail-safe mode. I ran the installer, but when I press the "Boot to desktop", nothing happens.[20:15:41] <premislaus> My laptop with AMD APU don't have DVD (is broken).[20:15:52] *** Guma <Guma!~quassel@2601:249:301:6a33:79b4:5781:9093:d300> has joined #haiku[20:16:31] <Vidrep> In my case it's a PC that I have already been using successfully with Haiku, until this last hrev[20:17:18] <Vidrep> Maybe a separate ticket is needed, sinec I'm not sure if it's the same underlying issue or not[20:17:22] <Vidrep> since[20:18:19] <premislaus> I think I need to buy an old computer. Many years ago, on Athlon 3500+ I had problems only with wi-fi card (IRQ stroming), and resoluyions bigger yhan 1024x768.[20:18:30] <Vidrep> The previous build, hrev50849 was working[20:18:32] <premislaus> *resolutions[20:19:05] <Dacian> @humdinger[20:19:12] <Dacian> are you here?[20:19:25] <Vidrep> I've always found Haiku to be a little "flakey" when installed on AMD based PC's[20:19:26] *** lezsakdomi <lezsakdomi!~led@540354BE.catv.pool.telekom.hu> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:19:41] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:21:21] <premislaus> I escaped two weeks ago from Windows 10 to Linux - openSUSE Tumbleweed. This is good OS, especially with KDE... despite the constant googlefest.[20:21:49] <Vidrep> Looking at the commit log (maybe 50851 is the culprit???)[20:22:12] <humdinger> Dacian: on and off[20:22:15] <humdinger> hi Vidrep[20:22:31] <Vidrep> Hi humdinger! Keeping busy, I see[20:23:03] <humdinger> more or less[20:23:05] <Dacian> if a recipe only build if i run hp name_x86 what should i do?[20:23:54] <humdinger> mark the x86_gcc2 in ARCHITECTURES with ![20:25:07] <Dacian> and what about x86 and x86_64 should i put in front of them "?" ?[20:26:24] <humdinger> arguably, if it build as 2ndary arch with x86, it should also do so on 1st.[20:26:37] <humdinger> ?x86_64 should be OK[20:27:27] <Dacian> and another question, it's version is 0.5alpha[20:27:55] <Dacian> recipe name will be name-0.5alpha.recipe or name-0.5.0.recipe ?[20:28:38] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[20:29:20] <humdinger> name-0.5alpha.recipe I'd say. May depend on the stuff in the archive you download from the Source_URI.[20:29:22] <humdinger> not sure[20:29:31] <Dacian> aha[20:30:52] <premislaus> Vidrep I miss Haikuware, there was a hardware base. People were writing what works and what not. Vidrep maybe try 50850, because of this - http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=44c76b26e8c8c94f76a9d4dda51f4dcd7ffc5463 ??[20:35:38] <Dacian> @humdinger what did you say about midikeyboard makefile?[20:38:35] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d856f8c.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:48:40] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:51:15] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e36386f.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[20:51:37] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@c-68-41-4-65.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[20:51:45] *** HaikuUser2 is now known as SMCollins[20:53:56] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Quit: 15 minutes with you / oh, I wouldn't say no... I wear black on the outside because black is how I feel on the inside... Uso negro por fuera porque negro me siento por dentro... http://youtu.be/xldmXca0kvg ...The Smiths - "Unloveable")[20:54:58] *** qeos|2 <qeos|2!~kvirc@37.204.81.98> has joined #haiku[20:56:33] *** qeos <qeos!~kvirc@37.204.81.98> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:03:29] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[21:05:42] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has joined #haiku[21:07:57] *** prOSy_n8Ly <prOSy_n8Ly!~prOSy@p5B035B5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[21:08:01] <prOSy_n8Ly> hi[21:10:05] *** _Dario <_Dario!~yaaic@181.103.99.135> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[21:14:13] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@80-110-98-81.cgn.dynamic.surfer.at> has joined #haiku[21:14:21] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@80-110-98-81.cgn.dynamic.surfer.at> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:17:12] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@host204.pool115.tecnoadsl.it> has joined #haiku[21:17:15] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:17:26] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:17:58] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@host204.pool115.tecnoadsl.it> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:26:29] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: korli * hrev50864 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=0c5219a1d652+%5Ee3c6ca65896c[21:26:30] <HAIKU-irker458> 0c5219a1d652: Restore missing symbol _ZN7BStringixEi on x86 and x86_64.[21:31:59] <Duggan> greetings[21:34:39] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #haiku[21:34:56] *** Guma <Guma!~quassel@2601:249:301:6a33:79b4:5781:9093:d300> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:38:25] <Dacian> guys what this error means http://pastebin.com/pEBfgvDB ?[21:41:15] <PulkoMandy> Dacian 0.5~alpha, not 0.5alpha, please[21:41:22] <PulkoMandy> (I will tell humdinger if I see it)[21:41:35] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[21:41:36] <PulkoMandy> this is because 0.5alpha > 0.5 according to our package version comparator[21:42:16] <Dacian> you are talking about this https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/1050 , right?[21:42:57] *** Guma <Guma!~Guma@2601:249:301:6a33:79b4:5781:9093:d300> has joined #haiku[21:43:04] *** SMCollins <SMCollins!~vision@c-68-41-4-65.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[21:43:14] <Dacian> so i have to change its name in libmspack-0.5~alpha.recipe[21:43:59] <PulkoMandy> I don't know, just reading the back-log here, I will comment on the pull request[21:44:17] <Dacian> ok[21:50:31] <Dacian> PulkoMandy btw, what does this error http://pastebin.com/pEBfgvDB mean?[21:52:26] <PulkoMandy> you need to update the build system to know about haiku[21:52:49] <PulkoMandy> there is a command to update config.sub automatically, but I don't remember which one it is[21:53:02] <PulkoMandy> "automake --force --copy --install" maybe?[21:55:08] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3237 of haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/3237[22:02:00] *** opeth <opeth!d950831a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.80.131.26> has joined #haiku[22:02:32] <opeth> halllo jemand da der deutsch versteht ?[22:05:05] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev50865 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=bdd02e0d9d4f+%5E0c5219a1d652[22:05:06] <HAIKU-irker458> bdd02e0d9d4f: BString: rename SetCharAt to SetByteAt[22:13:59] *** Dacian <Dacian!5f4cbda7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.76.189.167> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:19:55] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3238 of haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build <repository>Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/3238 blamelist: Adrien Destugues <pulkomandy at pulkomandy dot tk>[22:21:16] *** opeth <opeth!d950831a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.80.131.26> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[22:33:05] *** pusith <pusith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[22:38:38] *** Dacian <Dacian!5f4cbda7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.76.189.167> has joined #haiku[22:45:29] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-rdbannufytkkvzhk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:50:33] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[22:53:35] <Duggan> does std::string handle unicode?[22:55:55] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[22:57:08] <Dacian> can someone help me with this[22:57:22] <Dacian> http://pastebin.com/pEBfgvDB[22:57:40] *** prOSy_n8Ly <prOSy_n8Ly!~prOSy@p5B035B5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[22:58:48] <Duggan> i can't, sorry[23:00:57] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3297 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build <repository>Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/3297 blamelist: Adrien Destugues <pulkomandy at pulkomandy dot tk>[23:01:43] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-166-190-91.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:01:58] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-82-11-80.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #haiku[23:01:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[23:02:19] <Dacian> mmu_man are you here?[23:04:32] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[23:06:09] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte)[23:10:27] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@cm-84.215.7.117.getinternet.no> has joined #haiku[23:11:53] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@cm-84.215.7.117.getinternet.no> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:14:13] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Macabre?)[23:14:47] <Dacian> @waddlesplash[23:16:20] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:16:49] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:16:59] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:20:47] <premislaus> https://perelandra0x309.github.io/serviceswatcher/ - I think this must be good app for Haiku. For example, in Linux, when I want to restart Plasma from TTY: killall plasmashell, kstart plasmashell. I'm getting that something cannot connect with X server[23:21:37] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:28:40] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:28:59] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[23:31:35] <mmu_man> Dacian: ?[23:33:19] <waddlesplash> premislaus: it probably doesn't work anymore[23:33:31] <waddlesplash> due to launch_daemon.[23:33:43] <waddlesplash> (although it could be adapted to interface with launch_daemon...)[23:39:09] <premislaus> waddlesplash: The last news that I know from Haiku, is the package manager (I really liked this change). Unfortunately, later, I was dissatisfied with the pace of development, with other things. I deleted my account, I closed the website, etc. This does not change the fact, that I would prefer to use Haiku. I have small requirements. I am glad that x86_64 is considered as the official build.[23:39:47] <waddlesplash> well, we finally are getting a better website[23:39:53] <waddlesplash> should launch within a few days[23:40:08] <premislaus> :)[23:40:11] <waddlesplash> premislaus: also, pace of development really can't be helped with a volunteer team[23:40:23] <premislaus> I cannot boot - https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/13200 :([23:40:37] <waddlesplash> premislaus: (new website beta is here: https://haiku.netlify.com - once we launch, we can talk about redesign)[23:40:54] <Duggan> x86_64 is the official build?[23:41:12] <waddlesplash> Duggan: nah, but it has a slightly better status now[23:41:46] <Duggan> waddlesplash now that I'm here actually using it and telling people about all the bugs it has? :D[23:41:49] <Duggan> glad to be of service ;)[23:41:54] <waddlesplash> lol[23:42:19] <Duggan> you gotta use it to know what to fix...[23:42:31] <Duggan> and when I use Haiku, I *USE* Haiku :P[23:44:01] <premislaus> waddlesplash: I know. Too much to tell. After five years, the project lost faith. Too much to tell. After five years I lost faith in the project (2014 year). Today is different time. If something does not work for me, if it requires me to change something, i've give up. I'm not even in social media.[23:44:35] <Duggan> premislaus, how does giving up help the project get better?[23:44:36] <premislaus> *I lost faith in the project.[23:44:50] <premislaus> Duggan not complaining ;)[23:45:01] <Duggan> if it's something you like and believe in, you work at it to help make the things that are wrong with it better[23:45:15] <Duggan> didn't say you were, just saying that we need more help, not less help :)[23:45:17] <Dacian> @waddlespalsh can you help me with this http://pastebin.com/pEBfgvDB ?[23:45:57] <premislaus> Duggan gcc2 was a thing[23:46:06] <premislaus> Duggan it was hard to explain to other people (developers), why.[23:46:10] <Duggan> then the hybrids came along[23:47:28] <premislaus> Duggan I do not remember good, but we have a hard time, like 40 unique visits on a webpage, etc.[23:48:11] <Duggan> even if that's true, how does leaving the project help more people see it?[23:49:10] <premislaus> Duggan We wrote a lot, worked with a larger portal, and nothing. The only my success is the Pdziepak "oppressio" on IRC, to take a contract.[23:49:23] <premislaus> *opression[23:49:49] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[23:50:05] <Vidrep> How can I test my serial port on Haiku?[23:50:26] <mmu_man> there's a SerialConnect app[23:50:28] <Duggan> premislaus we just have to keep working at it :)[23:51:10] <Vidrep> mmu_man, yes I know. The problem is that it says "no serial port available"[23:51:13] <premislaus> Vidrep pre-50851 is working?[23:51:31] <premislaus> waddlesplash: looks like old ;)[23:51:47] <Vidrep> premislaus, I was trying to get serial logging, but it isn't working[23:52:06] <Vidrep> It isn't working on a second PC I tried either[23:52:13] <waddlesplash> premislaus: yes, but it's 1000% different under the hood[23:52:26] <mmu_man> Vidrep: hmm check the syslog maybe[23:52:42] <waddlesplash> premislaus: static site generated via Hugo; Go templates; served via a global CDN; page layouts based on Bootstrap.[23:53:09] <mmu_man> Dacian: system `haiku' not recognized < you'll have to regenerate the autoconf files as they are too old[23:53:23] <premislaus> Duggan: This does not change the fact that I love Haiku GUI and icons, plus is that I do not have to fumble in the console.[23:53:26] <Vidrep> KERN: [32mpc_serial:[0m Skipping port 0 as it is used for kernel debug.[23:53:31] <premislaus> waddlesplash: good to know :).[23:53:45] <Duggan> premislaus then stay with it and help make it better :) (and bring some friends!)[23:53:59] <premislaus> Duggan: espescially in config scripts.[23:54:45] <premislaus> Duggan: I do not have friends. I'm serious. Old nerd (28 ) in four walls, and books.[23:54:57] <Vidrep> reboot and try again[23:54:59] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[23:55:09] <Duggan> premislaus 35 here... otherwise the same :P[23:55:20] <Dacian> @waddlesplash are you here[23:55:35] <waddlesplash> hm?[23:55:41] <waddlesplash> Dacian: looks like mmu_man gave you the right answer[23:56:03] <mmu_man> something like libtoolize --force --copy --install[23:56:08] <mmu_man> in the BUILD phase[23:56:20] <mmu_man> or autoreconf -i maybe[23:56:27] <Dacian> and where is the answer?[23:56:36] <waddlesplash> Dacian: 5:53 PM <mmu_man> Dacian: system `haiku' not recognized < you'll have to regenerate the autoconf files as they are too old[23:57:00] <Dacian> i was disconected[23:57:03] <Dacian> ...[23:57:09] <Dacian> how can i do that?[23:57:11] <premislaus> BTW is Clockwerk working? I was used Lightworks for little vloging. Sorry in Polish - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtiTdfPmQnM - this is my best episode, with public domain clips.[23:57:37] <premislaus> About Virginia Woolf "Waves"[23:58:37] *** eschatologist <eschatologist!~chanson@c-73-189-131-221.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.6.3+deb2 - http://znc.in)