January 11, 2017 
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January 11, 2017 [00:00:35] *** pisculichi <pisculichi!pisculichi@shell.bshellz.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[00:00:35] *** pisculichi <pisculichi!pisculichi@unaffiliated/pisculichi> has joined #haiku[00:07:28] *** amuck <amuck!~amuck@2001:19f0:8001:13b:5400:ff:fe3f:cad9> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.6.3 - http://znc.in)[00:07:44] *** amuck <amuck!~amuck@irc.harug.com> has joined #haiku[00:12:19] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[00:21:07] <Skipp_OSX> owenca, I am a LayoutBuilder expert[00:21:31] *** tchbnl <tchbnl!sid185525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iaazqtdbvinzepzr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:21:55] *** tchbnl <tchbnl!sid185525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cgukozssucyjpbmr> has joined #haiku[00:24:34] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[00:29:37] *** nighty 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<Bryanstein!~Bryanstei@shellium/admin/bryanstein> has joined #haiku[01:23:55] *** hermord_ <hermord_!~hermord@198.251.61.218> has joined #haiku[01:25:19] *** IIsi50MHz <IIsi50MHz!sid19824@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session> has quit IRC (Changing host)[01:25:19] *** IIsi50MHz <IIsi50MHz!sid19824@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yrqksdqwsgxuqptd> has joined #haiku[01:25:31] *** hermord <hermord!~hermord@198.251.61.218> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:32:00] *** tresh <tresh!~vision@92.188.42.24> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[01:41:41] *** gtht4242 <gtht4242!~GT@CPE-121-217-51-195.lnse1.cht.bigpond.net.au> has joined #haiku[01:43:34] *** gtht4242 <gtht4242!~GT@CPE-121-217-51-195.lnse1.cht.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:57:52] *** ubuntourist <ubuntourist!~kjcole@ubuntu/member/kjcole> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:03:38] *** cdesai <cdesai!~cd@cyanogenmod/maintainer/cdesai> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:11:56] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has joined #haiku[02:15:15] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[02:16:18] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:16:26] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:186a:e60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:16:27] *** thenerd <thenerd!~thenerd@blk-89-201-230.eastlink.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[02:17:05] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #haiku[02:18:28] *** thenerd <thenerd!~thenerd@blk-89-201-230.eastlink.ca> has joined #haiku[02:18:53] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:36:36] <ryoshu> hi[02:36:45] <ryoshu> is haiku using framebuffer?[02:36:53] <ryoshu> how is printing done, is there a display server[02:39:50] <waddlesplash> of course there's a display server[02:44:08] <ryoshu> what's its name?[02:44:15] <ryoshu> is it inside the kernel[02:44:41] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[02:44:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[02:45:49] <owenca> Skipp_OSX hi[02:46:40] <Skipp_OSX> hi owenca, what problem are you having with BLayoutBuilder ?[02:46:52] <owenca> can an icon be added by LayoutBuilder?[02:47:06] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[02:49:05] <Skipp_OSX> owenca, only views can be added to a LayoutBuilder, but a view can have an icon drawn into it and then added[02:49:37] <owenca> Skipp_OSX also, does BLayoutBuilder::Group<> creates a BView or something?[02:50:08] <owenca> what's the name of the BView it creates?[02:50:11] <Skipp_OSX> There is a View() method that willl return the view[02:50:46] <Skipp_OSX> BLayoutBuilder::Group<>(B_HORIZONTAL)->View();[02:51:23] <owenca> hmm, why B_HORIZONTAL?[02:51:39] <Skipp_OSX> owenca, just an example, B_HORIZONTAL or B_VERTICAL[02:51:52] <owenca> i see.[02:52:09] <Skipp_OSX> I would look in the Haiku source code there are plenty of examples[02:52:24] <owenca> so horizontal or vertical must match how i call it before?[02:52:58] <ryoshu> waddlesplash: ^[02:53:14] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: app_server; it runs in userspace.[02:53:47] <Skipp_OSX> owenca, you can either create a horizontal group or a vertical group, if you create a horizontal group, views added to the layout will be layed out horizontally, vertical, vertically[02:54:53] <ryoshu> waddlesplash: thanks![02:54:58] <Skipp_OSX> or you can use BLayoutBuilder::Grid<> to create a grid and you specify the row and column that you want the view to be in[02:55:09] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: np.[02:55:34] <Skipp_OSX> owenca, and you can compose layouts together so you can have a vertical group with a horizontal group inside it with a grid inside it, etc.[02:55:38] <owenca> Skipp_OSX so after i create the group using vertical, i can do BLayoutBuilder::Group<>(B_HORIZONTAL)->View(); after .End(); ?[02:55:42] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: generally, most stuff runs in userspace[02:55:51] <ryoshu> waddlesplash: I'm researching transplantation of it to NetBSD and replace xorg[02:55:57] <Skipp_OSX> owenca, yep[02:56:08] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: oh good luck with that, it's very much tied to our kernel[02:56:18] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: or at least our model of graphics drivers[02:56:43] <Skipp_OSX> wait wait wait[02:56:50] <ryoshu> I only wish that haiku is well designed enough[02:56:51] <owenca> Skipp_OSX thx![02:56:54] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: anyway, most of its sources are at https://github.com/haiku/haiku/tree/master/src/servers/app although there are some other components spread all around the tree[02:56:59] <Skipp_OSX> owenca, not like that though[02:57:39] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: and, uh, the only toolkit that does anything at all with it is our own[02:58:01] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: honestly I don't recommend trying to transplant it to NetBSD; just switch to Wayland or whatever[02:58:07] <owenca> Skipp_OSX are you familiar with the Settings window of WheresMyMouse?[02:58:08] <ryoshu> waddlesplash: why?[02:58:53] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: well, for one, it doesn't do 3D acceleration at all; and for another it doesn't support multiple monitors yet, and for yet another it only has one root draw buffer[02:58:57] <owenca> Skipp_OSX so how to refer to the view then?[02:59:07] <Skipp_OSX> owenca, I pm'ed you[02:59:12] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: seriously, it's really tightly integrated into Haiku -- all of our major components are, that's kind of the point of Haiku[02:59:18] <Skipp_OSX> (let's continue this off channel)[03:00:02] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:01:08] <ryoshu> waddlesplash: even if haiku's display server is low tech, it's still better looking that X to me :)[03:01:29] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: well, like I said, it's tied to Haiku in about 10,000 ways[03:01:40] <waddlesplash> I don't know if anyone even documented the protocol[03:02:25] <ryoshu> I will give it a try and see myself[03:02:55] <waddlesplash> well, if you manage to even get it to build on a NetBSD system outside of our source tree, I will be surprised[03:03:13] <waddlesplash> but I will be especially surprised if you manage to boot it on a NetBSD kernel[03:03:30] <ryoshu> OK![03:04:07] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: just curious - what's wrong with Wayland? I assume you don't want its dependence on OpenGL and all that?[03:08:26] <ryoshu> waddlesplash: wayland is just like X to me, low-level API; I'm dreaming about high-level API enforced by a display server like the haiku one; winapi is usable and can be used to create normal applications while doing it with Xlib isn't possilble; I'm dreaming about qt/gtk ports options to haiku kits... and finally get the desktop integrated one application with the other, not 5 types of clipboard,[03:08:32] <ryoshu> drag-and-drop not much functionional etc[03:08:45] <waddlesplash> ah, I see[03:09:14] <ryoshu> X is too low-level for me[03:09:29] <ryoshu> wayland is just a replacement for it[03:09:33] <waddlesplash> well, honestly, Haiku's API is still "low-level"-ish under the hood[03:09:44] <waddlesplash> it's just the only exposed interface for it is a high level C++ API[03:10:21] <ryoshu> winapi is also low-level, but can be used to more things than hello-world :)[03:10:22] <waddlesplash> actually, internally it's a bit arcane - there's no double buffering, all drawing still happens server-side (ugh, I've wished we spent the time to change that before)[03:11:05] <ryoshu> now we have DRMKMS, so drivers are finally in the kernel and can be reused out of X[03:11:15] <waddlesplash> er, can they?[03:11:22] <ryoshu> we use them e.g. for framebuffer[03:11:28] <waddlesplash> ah[03:11:50] <waddlesplash> well, that might make modifying our app_server easy-ish then[03:12:12] <ryoshu> it used to be that linux-mindset was to put everthing to user-space or xserver into the kernel[03:12:20] <waddlesplash> but it's probably still tied to the launch_daemon for port management, and it still uses ports in a really arcane way[03:13:10] <waddlesplash> and I mean, like, you can easily crash your OS by launching a webpage which creates too many draw objects and thus exhausts available ports[03:13:12] <ryoshu> and netbsd has no manpower to write our own drivers from scratch and we are copying/adapting them from linux[03:13:24] <ryoshu> I see[03:13:36] <waddlesplash> like I said, we really have a lot of stuff we want/need to change[03:13:52] <waddlesplash> I think the reason that we never changed that is because the app_server was actually protocol-compatible with BeOS?[03:13:58] <waddlesplash> it certainly isn't anymore though[03:14:09] <ryoshu> is there a list of things to be changed?[03:14:15] <ryoshu> or rethinked[03:14:26] <waddlesplash> maybe...[03:14:30] * waddlesplash looks in the usual places for one[03:16:21] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: looks like there are some bits of docs on PortLinks and Clipboard internal usages here: https://github.com/haiku/haiku/tree/master/docs/develop/app/usecases[03:16:26] <waddlesplash> looking for other stuff[03:17:16] <ryoshu> I don't need BeOS/Haiku binary/source code compatibility; I would be happy to build archived beos/haiku applications with small source code changes[03:17:20] <ryoshu> looking[03:18:44] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: lol, I found this:[03:18:44] <waddlesplash> https://dev.haiku-os.org/wiki/TODO/app_server[03:18:51] <waddlesplash> so, that would be a "not really" then[03:19:46] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: Is this something you're just doing on your own, or is this actually for NetBSD?[03:19:48] <ryoshu> multiple-displays, "hard" I see[03:20:01] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: yeah, and there's a ton of stuff missing from that list[03:20:07] <ohnx> that's 1 thing! :D[03:20:49] <ryoshu> ryoshu: well, if there would be traction that haiku kits work it might have chance to be accepted upstream - for now it's on my own -- but for open-source[03:20:53] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: https://dev.haiku-os.org/query?status=assigned&status=in-progress&status=new&status=reopened&type=%5Eenhancement&component=%5EServers%2Fapp_server&col=id&col=summary&col=status&col=owner&col=type&col=priority&col=milestone&order=priority has a few more items but still a bunch missing[03:21:45] <ryoshu> bookmarked![03:29:21] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: Feel free to file tickets & submit patches for any Haiku-affecting bug, of course :)[03:30:26] *** ffff` <ffff`!~user@2601:18f:601:76c0:6631:50ff:fe25:2f26> has joined #haiku[03:31:24] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: also, you could possibly look at using our graphics drivers; they tend to be better documented on average than Linux'es. :p[03:32:04] <ryoshu> sounds good[03:32:07] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: https://github.com/haiku/haiku/tree/master/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics -- they're all C++ of course, I don't know if your kernel supports that[03:32:22] <ryoshu> so building out-of-source src/servers/app is the first step[03:32:37] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: Eh. I'd try reconfiguring jam to do it in-tree first[03:32:38] <ryoshu> no, just C in the kernel[03:32:48] <waddlesplash> well, it's C++ without exceptions[03:32:58] <waddlesplash> and C++98, more or less[03:33:05] <ryoshu> it's an option[03:33:18] <waddlesplash> true[03:33:33] <waddlesplash> the radeon_hd, intel_extreme, and vesa drivers are the most advanced ones[03:33:45] <waddlesplash> radeon_hd has support for just about all modern Radeon HD cards & chipsets[03:34:02] <ryoshu> how about opengl?[03:34:15] <waddlesplash> intel_extreme supports most Intel chips up until about 3 gens ago I think?[03:34:18] <waddlesplash> nope. :([03:34:22] <waddlesplash> as I said, we don't have it[03:34:36] <waddlesplash> until about 1.5 years ago that was mostly because Gallium had a zillion deps on Xorg[03:35:04] <ryoshu> and Xorg has more and more hard deps on Linux[03:35:19] <waddlesplash> however, since DRI3 has become a thing, I think we actually don't need that much effort to get accel working on Radeon HD cards[03:35:41] <ryoshu> it's too far for now, I will be happy with vesa now[03:35:43] <waddlesplash> I think kallisti5 left that driver in such a state that adding DRI3 hooks would not be that hard[03:37:28] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: yeah, our VESA driver is pretty good[03:37:37] <waddlesplash> we didn't add support for vbios patching (yet)[03:38:47] <ryoshu> I see[03:43:29] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[03:45:18] <ryoshu> what's the difference between ./headers/os and ./headers/build/os[03:50:49] <waddlesplash> headers/build has, uh, build headers[03:51:05] <waddlesplash> so, headers used to compile tools on host target[03:51:18] <waddlesplash> whereas headers/os are the headers for the actual Haiku target (usually a cross-compile)[03:51:51] <waddlesplash> most headers in build/os will just <include> the same header from headers/os[03:52:00] <waddlesplash> there are a few key exceptions to this of course[03:52:51] <ryoshu> and os/ forso hmm headers/os are "user-space" ones?[03:53:09] <Skipp_OSX> vfs :) Ingo that wonderful guy broken Mac build for a month[03:53:55] <Skipp_OSX> Apple's fault really, they did eventually add support for the stuff Ingo was doing, pretty basic on Linux[03:57:06] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: I believe so[03:57:21] <ryoshu> thanks![03:57:34] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: I could be wrong about this stuff; this is all off the top of my head and I haven't worked with the cross-compile internals in a while...[03:58:36] *** ffff` <ffff`!~user@2601:18f:601:76c0:6631:50ff:fe25:2f26> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:02:03] <Skipp_OSX> translation nobody really understands how it all works[04:07:50] <ohnx> who would?[04:08:09] <Skipp_OSX> it's magic[04:10:20] <Skipp_OSX> the aforementioned Ingo might understand how it all works, but I'm not sure[04:13:39] <waddlesplash> translation kit is kinda wonky :([04:13:58] <Skipp_OSX> waddlesplash, yeah, it is[04:14:13] <Skipp_OSX> waddlesplash, it's a good idea but it needs to be extended to more than just images[04:15:01] <Skipp_OSX> waddlesplash, also, had they called it Conversion Kit instead of Translation Kit I would be much happier, when I hear translation I always think languages, not file formats[04:15:08] <waddlesplash> yeah[04:16:01] <Skipp_OSX> On my far off todo list is a Compression translator, so you can compress and uncompress files between formats[04:17:07] <Skipp_OSX> and video is pretty obvious[04:17:22] *** Perelandra <Perelandra!~Perelandr@h69-130-75-184.nansme.broadband.dynamic.tds.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[04:17:41] * Skipp_OSX pokes Barrett[04:18:46] <Barrett> translation kit isn't a great name[04:19:00] <Barrett> it might be possible to have trivial translators to do general file conversion[04:19:47] <Skipp_OSX> Barrett, should extend Translation Kit make a video translator, a transcoder some might say[04:20:06] <Barrett> something that would use the media_kit anyway[04:20:30] <Skipp_OSX> Barrett, yeah, it would lean heavily on media_kit, that's why I poked you[04:20:48] *** scottmc <scottmc!~scottmc@c-67-174-194-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[04:21:09] <Skipp_OSX> Barrett, glass elevator for sure[04:21:40] <Barrett> something like that is pretty doable right now[04:21:57] <Barrett> but I'm sure it will not be perfect[04:22:37] <Skipp_OSX> well, my ignorance of media kit will show, but, is there a common representation for video and audio in media kit the way that BBitmap is for images?[04:23:02] <Barrett> yep[04:23:56] <Barrett> the main problem is that the translation kit is still a bit rude[04:24:15] <Barrett> will need some review to do that[04:24:23] <Skipp_OSX> Barrett, great, so that's your base type, and then the "translators" would convert from the specific video format (e.g. h.264, h.265, mpeg2) to that common video format and vice-versa[04:24:35] <Barrett> yeah I know how it works[04:24:47] <Skipp_OSX> Barrett, that all has to be built in translation kit first[04:25:00] <Barrett> there's not really a big problem[04:25:09] <Barrett> as the translation kit take a BPositionIO[04:25:28] <Barrett> so it's pretty much compatible to what the media_kit does[04:25:32] <Skipp_OSX> okay, so, then writing the translators is the tough part?[04:26:27] <Skipp_OSX> I assume we lean on ffmpeg heavily in that department[04:26:37] <Barrett> there will be not really more translators[04:26:49] <Barrett> I mean there will be just a media_kit translator[04:27:23] <Skipp_OSX> Barrett, I don't really care what kit it's in[04:28:15] <Skipp_OSX> Translation Kit seems like a natural fit to me but I don't understand how media kit works so take with a grain of salt[04:28:16] <Barrett> look in mediaconverter and you're in[04:29:00] <Barrett> move that code into a translator[04:29:06] <Barrett> then rework mediaconverter to use that[04:29:13] <Skipp_OSX> Barrett, gotcha[04:29:44] <Skipp_OSX> Barrett, would be nice if you could open/save from a wide variety of video and audio formats in your app[04:30:11] <Skipp_OSX> the way that you can with image formats, .png, .gif, .jpg, etc.[04:30:19] <Barrett> it's possible with the media_kit[04:30:35] <Skipp_OSX> okay, so basically, what I want already exists[04:30:51] <Barrett> generally speaking the media file part isn't that bad[04:30:59] <Skipp_OSX> that's cool[04:31:03] <Barrett> the media_kit issues are on another level[04:31:13] <Skipp_OSX> Barrett, it is hard stuff[04:31:37] <Barrett> Skipp_OSX, yes it exists but there's no easy way to do it[04:31:46] <Barrett> having translators to do it would be nice[04:32:07] <Barrett> for the user I mean[04:32:15] <Skipp_OSX> ah okay, put that on your list :)[04:32:22] <Barrett> not from the programming point, while it might still turn useful[04:32:23] <Skipp_OSX> R2 timeframe[04:32:57] <Barrett> I'm not interested into that much really[04:33:05] <Barrett> personally I mean[04:33:46] <Skipp_OSX> and then Compression Kit is basically exporting the functionality of Expand and Zip-O-Matic and then extending that into Translation Kit[04:34:46] <Skipp_OSX> Expander[04:36:12] <Skipp_OSX> would be very useful for app developers to be able to read and write different compressed formats[04:36:46] <Skipp_OSX> for users too[04:37:37] <Barrett> if it doesn't get into full-bloated stuff[04:37:42] <Barrett> it looks nice[04:40:15] <Skipp_OSX> and then once all that is done, Translation Kit will no longer suck[04:41:56] <Barrett> it'd be auspicable to have a converter app that handle every type on earth[04:42:15] <Barrett> like commodore datasette to pdf[04:43:40] <Skipp_OSX> The Unarchiver on Mac OS X[04:43:44] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[04:44:13] <ohnx> hullo vale[04:44:46] <Skipp_OSX> Libre Office has created it's version of translators for a bunch of old and new document types. We could mine that to create a document format Translation Kit[04:45:04] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:45:23] <Skipp_OSX> so you could convert .rtf to docx or what not[04:45:31] <ryoshu> https://www.gnu.org/software/regex/ README notes gnuregex[04:45:31] <Barrett> yet it will take advantage of my mimedb enhancements[04:46:01] <Barrett> those conversions are crappy usually[04:46:17] <Skipp_OSX> Barrett, a lot better than nothing![04:46:46] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-djfmyjbigawusjlk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[04:47:48] <ohnx> excel has an internal translation magick going on[04:48:12] <Skipp_OSX> I can only imagine what that code looks like....[04:48:18] <ohnx> like it converts all sorts of different formats into its own internal format[04:48:31] <ohnx> that's why when you open a csv and close it, it asks if you want to save to a lossy format[04:48:33] <Skipp_OSX> oh yeah, well, of course they would need that[04:48:41] <Barrett> when you have an horde of coding monkeys[04:48:46] <Barrett> you can do all sort of magic[04:49:18] <Skipp_OSX> I'm sure every version of Excel has it's own set of tricks, and so you need to keep track of them all, even if you are just talking .xls and .xlsx[04:50:03] <Skipp_OSX> You need to be able to open a file created on Excel 2003 for example[04:51:10] <Skipp_OSX> A proper set of document file format translators would be a beast, as large as WebKit[04:51:25] <Skipp_OSX> a massive undertaking[04:56:57] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[05:44:54] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[05:46:14] <ryoshu> can I send patches here?[05:47:14] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:12:05] <Skipp_OSX> attach to ticket on trac[06:27:02] *** jogplus <jogplus!4c5980b9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.89.128.185> has joined #haiku[06:30:29] *** NeelNarvekar <NeelNarvekar!d8a5e3ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.165.227.206> has joined #haiku[06:36:40] <jrabbit> I'm getting git errors in haikuporter i'm not sure whats going on[06:37:25] <jrabbit> it used to work![06:41:23] <jrabbit> http://sprunge.us/UVVT[06:43:16] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:44:10] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:45:08] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[06:49:08] *** cdesai <cdesai!~cd@cyanogenmod/maintainer/cdesai> has joined #haiku[06:52:58] <jrabbit> oh i confused it[06:59:22] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[07:09:58] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-097-192.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[07:13:24] *** savant_d <savant_d!~savant@178.162.117.40> has joined #haiku[07:18:19] *** jogplus <jogplus!4c5980b9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.89.128.185> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[07:20:40] *** savant_d <savant_d!~savant@178.162.117.40> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:22:39] <scottmc> any Google Code-In students here looking for help?[07:23:09] <scottmc> owenca staying dry where you are?[07:23:30] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d868745.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[07:23:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[07:24:28] *** raefaldhia <raefaldhia!7660f8ec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.118.96.248.236> has joined #haiku[07:25:55] <jrabbit> auto patch extraction is pretty nifty haikuporter `-e`[07:26:53] <scottmc> it's been awhile since you used haikuporter right? i think that was added 2 or 3 years ago now[07:27:39] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!6cad3e40@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.173.62.64> has joined #haiku[07:27:44] <Vidrep> Hi[07:28:07] <humdinger> Vidrep! Isn't it time for bed yet? :)[07:28:11] <ohnx> hello[07:28:28] <Vidrep> I am in bed[07:28:38] <Vidrep> On a iPad[07:29:16] <FlyingJester> So your bed is an iPad?[07:29:17] <humdinger> reading under the blanket again, eh?[07:29:26] <Vidrep> Lol[07:29:36] <ohnx> wow same Vidrep[07:30:14] <ohnx> didn't know freenode web irc worked on ios though[07:30:14] <humdinger> ohnx had a nice 8 hour sleep, while you're still posting (in your sleep now).[07:30:23] <Vidrep> Funnies before sleep[07:30:39] <ohnx> i go now though lol[07:30:46] <PulkoMandy> ohnx: you don't have to use the web client to get to IRC[07:31:03] <ohnx> ik, i'm on an irc client[07:31:15] <ohnx> but didn't know webchat worked[07:31:25] <ohnx> didn't expect it to[07:33:24] <Vidrep> I was messing around with GPT partitions earlier today. BootManager isn't working since hrev50840[07:34:00] <Vidrep> The boot menu is empty[07:34:24] <PulkoMandy> it isn't supposed to work with GPT, so that's a good thing. Now we can actually fix it and make it work[07:34:35] <PulkoMandy> I'm still not sure how you managed to set it up in a working way :)[07:36:06] <Vidrep> It was working until that change. I spent several hours installing earlier builds trying to find the commit that "broke" it[07:37:28] <jrabbit> https://github.com/jrabbit/haikuports-tree/commit/4d6c1ba826c0c47b280a8a73d91dd779677c0887 N_N[07:37:47] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, I still have those photos and screenshots in case proof is needed :)[07:39:42] <Vidrep> Of course I understand that this is a work in progress[07:43:58] <Vidrep> I'm guessing you guys are on your way to work now, or already at work. Have a good day! Later...[07:43:59] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has joined #haiku[07:44:23] <humdinger> sleep tight Vidrep![07:46:11] <korli> hi[07:46:43] <humdinger> hullo[07:47:30] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[07:48:39] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!6cad3e40@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.173.62.64> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[07:49:31] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:06:03] <owenca> scottmc flooding in town but ok near our home[08:06:35] <owenca> are you ok?[08:07:54] <scottmc> same here. ok by my house, so far at least, but flooding in some places. Still raining though.[08:08:39] <owenca> good to hear that[08:10:00] <owenca> does haiku or coverity have to grant access before i can see defects?[08:11:24] <Paradoxon> how do i write into the system log?[08:11:25] <scottmc> owenca i saw your name on the list, did you try to view the defects?[08:11:46] <owenca> yes but nothing shows up[08:12:18] <scottmc> try it again?[08:13:34] <owenca> http://pasteboard.co/kGSVc2QnH.png[08:14:42] <owenca> can you see any defects?[08:15:34] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-097-192.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:16:58] <scottmc> try clicking the haiku32 bit button and see if you can view issues on the other platforms?[08:19:13] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-097-192.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[08:19:49] <owenca> i only have access to haiku-32bit. others are either too old or not available?[08:20:55] <owenca> haiku-64bit last build was in 2012[08:22:42] <owenca> PulkoMandy hi[08:22:50] <humdinger> Paradoxon: look at https://api.haiku-os.org/syslog_8h.html#details[08:23:14] <Paradoxon> thanks :)[08:24:41] <humdinger> syslog(LOG_DEBUG, "Hello syslog!"); seems to do it.[08:26:12] <owenca> PulkoMandy i tried to work on resource.h for the undefined limits. do you have the requirements?[08:31:38] <scottmc> i'm heading to bed, nite all[08:31:42] *** Duggan <Duggan!~Duggan@adsl-98-89-128-8.bix.bellsouth.net> has joined #haiku[08:31:51] <Duggan> greetings, earth creatures[08:33:14] <humdinger> how's the invasion going?[08:37:11] <ryoshu> https://github.com/haiku/haiku/blob/master/src/servers/app/Jamfile#L102[08:37:27] <korli> owenca: the undefined limits aren't implemented in Haiku, not enforced also. maybe use RLIM_INFINITY[08:37:40] <ryoshu> what does this line mean -- servers/app depends on libtranslation.so libbe.so libbnetapi.so etc?[08:38:16] <korli> ryoshu: app_server is linked against these libs[08:39:24] <ryoshu> and libbe = src/kits/app?[08:40:19] <korli> libbe is defined in src/kits/Jamfile, the sum of src/kits/app + src/kits/interface + src/kits/support[08:42:11] <ryoshu> and storage + locale?[08:46:29] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@217.112.129.1> has joined #haiku[08:47:07] <korli> ryoshu: right[08:48:58] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[08:49:51] <Duggan> hey humdinger :D[08:50:06] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~vision@dslb-088-074-097-192.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[08:50:29] <Duggan> it's going fairly well... especially considering how I just finished a couple lines of code and processed my code about 3/4 further to completion[08:50:29] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:50:42] *** NeelNarvekar <NeelNarvekar!d8a5e3ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.165.227.206> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[08:50:43] <Duggan> processed my test data*[08:51:36] <ryoshu> korli: thanks![08:51:41] <korli> ryoshu: you might be interested in src/build/libroot: we need a stripped libbe.so to cross build on FreeBSD or NetBSD, this is minimal atm because it doesn't need much[08:51:50] <humdinger> will we see a product at the end or are these only a prove of your codilicious nimbleness?[08:52:09] <Duggan> humdinger both :P[08:52:23] <humdinger> nice![08:52:34] <Duggan> humdinger remember the whole idea that started this?[08:52:52] <humdinger> of course not.[08:52:55] <Duggan> lol[08:54:09] <Duggan> a server that processes code and stores info about it in a db and exposes functions via BMessage passing so any program (read: IDE) can send messages and get info back about a piece of code or file or variable etc.... provides things like "Go To Definition" functionality[08:56:01] <humdinger> sounds useful. :)[08:56:12] <humdinger> When will you release the first IDE using it? :P[08:56:23] <Duggan> can also generate doxygen type data or UML diagrams, etc[08:56:36] <Duggan> humdinger it wouldn't take much just to modify Paladin and Pe to use it[08:56:48] <Duggan> but I do kind of have an idea for an IDE that uses it too :P[08:57:47] <humdinger> Paladin is not exactly my dream IDE...[08:57:57] <Duggan> mine either, but that's in part why I'm doing this[08:58:08] <humdinger> KapiX' Koder might be a nice start, but has a huge way to go.[08:58:21] <Duggan> whatever happened to the idea of writing native software for Haiku? :P[08:58:26] *** raefaldhia <raefaldhia!7660f8ec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.118.96.248.236> has quit IRC (Quit: headache)[08:58:26] <humdinger> And no time on kapiX' side.[08:58:35] <humdinger> Koder is native.[08:58:47] <humdinger> (aside from the scintila lib)[08:59:13] <Duggan> not available for 64 bit apparently :P[08:59:22] <humdinger> If people don't grab what they can from outside Haiku, we'll nevr have great software[08:59:41] <humdinger> not available in HaikuDepot yet.[09:00:29] <Duggan> humdinger or someone can come along and write awesome development software so everybody WANTS to develop native apps for Haiku[09:00:30] <humdinger> https://github.com/KapiX/Koder[09:01:03] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[09:01:09] <humdinger> If your hope rests on me...[09:01:15] <humdinger> you can go right back to linux. :)[09:01:37] <humdinger> guess that still leaves this "someone".[09:01:50] *** iMe <iMe!~iMe@94.136.92.20> has joined #haiku[09:01:51] <Duggan> lol[09:01:54] <Duggan> yeah.... ME :D[09:03:08] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD744A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[09:03:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[09:04:25] <humdinger> you're always teasing...[09:04:32] <humdinger> then you're gone for 4 years.[09:04:34] <humdinger> :P[09:06:21] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-atkiomnzcxmdutfb> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[09:08:26] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[09:08:51] *** hermord_ <hermord_!~hermord@198.251.61.218> has quit IRC (Quit: hermord_)[09:11:33] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@217.112.129.1> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[09:12:42] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@217.112.129.1> has joined #haiku[09:14:17] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #haiku[09:16:39] <Duggan> humdinger you can't rush greatness :P[09:17:05] <Duggan> I am, afterall, Duggan, The Great Parser of Omicron 9[09:17:07] <humdinger> That's why we're in year 16 of the Haiku saga.[09:17:12] <Duggan> ... and don't you ever forget that :P[09:17:17] <humdinger> noted[09:17:40] <Duggan> hehe[09:18:05] <miqlas-H64> Bornin'[09:18:13] <Duggan> hey miqlas-H64[09:18:23] <miqlas-H64> humi, where you was yesterday night? We had an emergency here.[09:18:25] <humdinger> Boring morning?[09:18:30] <miqlas-H64> Hi Duggan![09:18:44] <humdinger> Sleeping, I suppose.[09:18:50] *** Duggan is now known as Duggan|TheGreatP[09:19:00] <Duggan|TheGreatP> well that stinks :/[09:19:10] <humdinger> let everyone come up with what the "P" stands for.[09:19:14] <humdinger> clever.[09:19:21] <Duggan|TheGreatP> lol[09:19:22] <miqlas-H64> How can one sleep in emergency situation???[09:19:24] *** Duggan|TheGreatP is now known as Duggan[09:19:29] <humdinger> ear plugs[09:19:40] <miqlas-H64> P like ProblemWithMyRecipe?[09:19:53] <Duggan> I don't have problems with your recipes :P[09:20:01] <humdinger> what are you cooking?[09:20:05] <Duggan> unless I'm the problem is what you are implying ;)[09:20:34] <miqlas-H64> humdinger: it was a GUI emergency. dacianf tried to update some old BeOS app, a GUI thing, if you know, what i mean.[09:20:48] <humdinger> I'm already helping him.[09:20:56] <miqlas-H64> > i don't imlying anything[09:21:06] <humdinger> and man, the GUI of that thing is a nightmare...[09:21:09] <miqlas-H64> Great.[09:21:12] <Duggan> "helping" being very loosely defined in this instance...[09:21:31] <miqlas-H64> I like the weirdness of the makefiles with the whitespaces, and so on.[09:21:59] <Duggan> I'm happy that I'm having a great deal of success with the parser after people tried telling me that it's virtually impossible and telling me to give up before I start and all that :D[09:22:20] <humdinger> Duggan: it's not too late.[09:22:24] <humdinger> you can still give up...[09:22:25] <Duggan> rofl[09:22:27] <Duggan> won't happen :P[09:22:34] <miqlas-H64> I used to read the Unix nightmares book, nice good-night book, but a bit outdated. It talks about the whitespace strangness on make already.[09:23:08] <miqlas-H64> Duggan: what kinde of parser?[09:23:18] <Duggan> I foresee some gotchas coming up, but I'm trying to account for them as early as I can... otherwise it's been surprisingly easy[09:23:25] <Duggan> miqlas-H64 C++98 right now[09:23:30] *** Diver_ <Diver_!6d4922f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.73.34.242> has joined #haiku[09:23:40] <Duggan> TEDIOUS, but easy[09:23:50] <miqlas-H64> Duggan: update it to current level, to be able to compile it on x86 too[09:24:14] <Duggan> miqlas-H64 not writing a compiler any time soon, but I can't say I haven't thrown around the idea that it's a possibility some day[09:25:47] <Duggan> I figure I'll get the parser up to snuff on c++98 and then incrementally change it to the subsequent versions over time, building up a library of parsers for the various iterations of the language[09:26:10] <Duggan> and every once in a while, write an off the wall parser just to mix things up a bit..... like COBOL :P[09:26:13] <miqlas-H64> Duggan: i have a strange bad news for you, sorry about that, it is better if you sit yourself comfortably first. Are you ready?[09:26:31] <Duggan> lol, what?[09:26:39] <miqlas-H64> We already have C++ in Haiku.[09:26:45] <Duggan> :O really!?[09:27:11] <miqlas-H64> yeah, no bullsh*t.[09:27:37] <Duggan> oh man, I thought it was all GW-BASIC with inline LOGO :'( I've been so wrong all these years![09:28:07] <miqlas-H64> LOGO! We need turtles on Haiku![09:28:11] <Duggan> lol[09:28:28] <Duggan> need a parser? I'm your man ;)[09:28:35] <miqlas-H64> would be nice to watch the turtle as it draws Haiku GUI[09:28:45] <Duggan> like I said, I'm not writing a whole compiler, just the parser right now[09:28:46] *** prOSy_n8Ly <prOSy_n8Ly!~prOSy@p5B035B5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[09:28:48] <miqlas-H64> with 60 FPS and 3d acceleration.[09:28:54] <prOSy_n8Ly> good morning[09:28:56] <prOSy_n8Ly> errr hi[09:29:04] <Duggan> greetings, prOSy_n8Ly[09:29:05] <miqlas-H64> Duggan: B-b-but why?[09:29:20] <Duggan> 1: to see if I can, 2: so I can use it to build dev tools[09:30:02] <Duggan> I took a compilers class and learned about LL(1) parsers, but never about LR parsers... I read about LR parsers but I guess I never fully understood their concepts...[09:30:05] <miqlas-H64> Duggan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBblICwxFtI[09:30:07] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #haiku[09:30:35] <Duggan> so at first I spent a couple days writing an LL style parser with the hopes of being able to modify it to work with the c++ syntax.... yeah... that didn't end well...[09:31:19] <Duggan> then I spent about 5 minutes looking over LR parsers again and then the whole concept just clicked and I understood it fully... and that's what I've been doing for almost a week since[09:31:27] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[09:32:53] <Duggan> miqlas-H64 you know I have no audio in 64 bit, right? good thing it's subtitled :P[09:33:51] <miqlas-H64> Duggan: patches welcome![09:34:19] <miqlas-H64> You need to watch Kollektivet WITH audio, no exception![09:34:50] <Duggan> too late[09:34:53] <miqlas-H64> humdinger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8ShAosqzI[09:35:48] <Duggan> miqlas-H64 I'm not worried about it, so no patches to give :P not being able to watch youtube videos on my computer means I have fewer distractions to keep me from working on the parser.... now if only my internet would go out :/[09:36:51] <Duggan> so far it reduces 14545 characters down to 1239 head nodes which will continually go down as I add functions for more productions[09:37:31] <Duggan> in one file I'm testing against anyway, which is by no means a definitive sample of the language[09:39:33] <miqlas-H64> Duggan: i've read a story about a 16 years old US guy, who relocated with his family to alaska in the middle of the 90's. He had no friends there, but plenty time, without internet. He wasn't able to keep up with the technology developement, he had no way to hear about the new programs, new hardwares, and so on. He had a computer with DOS, and some programming skills, so he made an own OS in ~6 years. Then they went back to a bigger[09:39:33] <miqlas-H64> city, and he was overwhelmed to see, what happened in the computer scene.[09:39:57] <miqlas-H64> He actually rewrote DOs with a better CLI "gui", and so on.[09:40:09] <miqlas-H64> So just go to alaska.[09:40:10] <Duggan> sounds awesome[09:40:35] <miqlas-H64> and come back with 3d Haiku acceleration[09:40:38] <Duggan> sounds like something I want to do... except my idea is worse[09:40:55] <Duggan> miqlas-H64 the tools that will come out of what I'm doing now will make that much easier[09:41:15] <Duggan> that's why I started this... so I can have better tools to be able to work with complex code I'm not familiar with[09:41:18] <miqlas-H64> great. we send you sammitches, okay?[09:41:24] <Duggan> sounds good[09:41:43] <Duggan> miqlas-H64 actually, sometime when I get past all this I'm going to start back on my own OS again...[09:41:44] <miqlas-H64> give us your postal address[09:42:52] <Duggan> I started designing it again a few days ago, but then this idea happened... I wrote a program once in x86 machine language, so I'm going to write a hex memory editor with x86 machine language too, and then just write an OS from there.... all runnig in a VM of course...[09:43:50] *** thenerd <thenerd!~thenerd@blk-89-201-230.eastlink.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[09:45:15] <Duggan> 1: write a hex memory editor in machine language, then write programs in machine language that, say format a disk and write a simple OS to it, then a compiler, IDE, etc, etc, etc... the point being to use absolutely *NO* borrowed code or programs of any sort (except the VM, text editor, and a simple C program to write the data to a disk image)[09:46:59] <miqlas-H64> you know, you need an OS to run programs on your computer, right? Read about the DOS .com executables.[09:47:14] <miqlas-H64> you can write them into the boot sector and let it run.[09:48:30] <Duggan> to write a program in machine language: 1: write a program in assembly, understanding the limitations of the hardware in having no OS interrupts or anything of the sort available (BIOS ONLY)... 2: break out the Intel IA32 reference manual, volume 2 and manually convert the assembly instructions into opcodes, 3: put opcodes in C file to be output to a binary disk image (bootable floppy) 4: boot floppy in VM[09:48:42] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A2924F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[09:49:56] <Duggan> miqlas-H64 your computer comes with an OS, it's called BIOS :P[09:50:42] <miqlas-H64> Duggan: an OS needs to be able to run EMACS, you know?[09:51:02] <Duggan> miqlas-H64 that will never happen... again, no external code or executables.... and EMACS sucks anyway[09:51:28] <Duggan> no external code or executables means no ports and no borrowed libraries or code snippets or any of that[09:51:47] *** iMe <iMe!~iMe@94.136.92.20> has quit IRC (Quit: ZZZzzz…)[09:52:07] <Duggan> I'm actually going to design my own language puroposely different than common languages, just to make it more difficult to port code[09:52:31] <Duggan> not that the language will be difficult... I already had it almost entirely designed at one point and then I lost my syntax diagrams :'([09:53:28] <Duggan> it's syntax was more BASIC like... slightly less efficient on character usage, but easier to read[09:55:58] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A2924F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: euver)[09:56:40] <Duggan> now that I apparently grok LR parsers, maybe I should redesign it with that in mind.... I wonder if there's a way to hybridize the two....... hehe[10:00:08] <miqlas-H64> Duggan: then it is surely relevant for you: http://www.templeos.org/[10:04:02] *** Selth <Selth!Selth@nat/redhat/x-cqhmstmggoycukbf> has joined #haiku[10:05:07] <Duggan> miqlas-H64 that's pretty well awesome, but it's not MY OS :P[10:05:41] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[10:07:03] <miqlas-H64> Duggan: you can fork it surely.[10:12:32] <Duggan> yeah that surely falls under breaking the "no existing code" rule too :P[10:13:19] <Duggan> and he started from assembly, I'm talking about starting from machine language[10:13:42] <Duggan> you don't get more primitive than that.... I mean, it's trivial to convert the hex into binary and then say "I programmed in binary" and mean it[10:15:16] <miqlas-H64> reboot, brb[10:15:34] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@217.112.129.1> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[10:18:45] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@217.112.129.1> has joined #haiku[10:19:16] <miqlas-H64> Guys, have anybody met with this? "Can't open perl script "autoreconf": No such file or directory"[10:20:47] <miqlas-H64> The recipe have automake and autoconf in build_reqs[10:21:05] <miqlas-H64> strange, but it works outside of haikuporter[10:22:21] <Duggan> haven't seen it[10:22:36] <jessicah> nop[10:23:13] <miqlas-H64> I gt this error with irssi, and now with kbuild. It cannot be a bad star constelaltion.[10:23:19] <miqlas-H64> It must be a bug in the matrix.[10:24:34] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:186a:e60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has joined #haiku[10:25:27] <miqlas-H64> Any idea, why does it try to interpret autoreconf as a perl script? http://termbin.com/rolw[10:25:49] <miqlas-H64> Oh, yeah, it is actually a perl script[10:26:22] <miqlas-H64> But what's wrong? It worked before...[10:27:20] <miqlas-H64> did i break something?[10:28:50] <miqlas-H64> env works and prints the env varsThe autoreconf script start with this: "#! /bin/env perl -w"[10:29:00] <miqlas-H64> tried to run it in my terminal, no output[10:29:11] <miqlas-H64> it doesn't return to the prompt, btw[10:29:46] <miqlas-H64> The same source code works outside of haikuporter, but prints this strange error in hp[10:30:31] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[10:30:34] *** Nach0z <Nach0z!~nach0z@unaffiliated/nach0z> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[10:31:10] *** Nach0z <Nach0z!~nach0z@unaffiliated/nach0z> has joined #haiku[10:31:44] <Duggan> I leave the haikuporter stuff up to you guys when I can[10:31:54] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p2003005B441FBD00022314FFFEAF6410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[10:32:22] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:33:07] <miqlas-H64> autoreconf is in autoconf package. this package attached to the chroot, so what's going on?[10:33:18] <miqlas-H64> AAAAARGGGH![10:33:22] <miqlas-H64> Found it.[10:33:32] <miqlas-H64> chroot has these packages active:[10:33:33] <miqlas-H64> /Ports/haikuports/packages/zsh-5.2-2-x86_64.hpkg[10:33:42] <miqlas-H64> The black sheep![10:34:56] <miqlas-H64> Why does it provides a /bin/sh if it isn't bash compatible enough?[10:39:30] <Duggan> 120786 chars down to 8913 heads... with a significantly more complex file...[10:42:59] *** fujisan <fujisan!~fujisan@unaffiliated/fujisan> has joined #haiku[10:47:48] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/5ef60692c291...273daf5ac8eb[10:47:49] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson 273daf5 - 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A hand crafted IRC client)[14:20:42] *** jorkoden <jorkoden!~joerg@37.120.49.98> has joined #haiku[14:22:04] <jorkoden> hu[14:25:24] <miqlas-H64> jorkoden: hu![14:30:44] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:a5ef:bd0a:7c3a:b927:1e37> has left #haiku[14:33:42] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[14:34:58] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:37:29] *** Drakevr <Drakevr!~null@drakevr.gr> has quit IRC (Changing host)[14:37:29] *** Drakevr <Drakevr!~null@unaffiliated/drakevr> has joined #haiku[15:09:02] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:a5ef:cd5f:a12a:9915:18> has joined #haiku[15:09:08] *** jorkoden <jorkoden!~joerg@37.120.49.98> has quit IRC (Quit: jorkoden)[15:28:32] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@ipd50ab3d6.speed.planet.nl> has joined #haiku[15:30:05] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@ipd50ab3d6.speed.planet.nl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:30:23] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@ipd50ab3d6.speed.planet.nl> has joined #haiku[15:30:32] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@ipd50ab3d6.speed.planet.nl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:30:47] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@ipd50ab3d6.speed.planet.nl> has joined #haiku[15:34:32] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[15:34:52] *** p <p!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[15:35:15] *** p is now known as Guest12862[15:35:34] *** Guest12862 <Guest12862!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:36:34] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:36:38] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: jessicah * hrev50858 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d2423e4b3c97+%5E4d83a710f5cd[15:36:39] <HAIKU-irker458> 079ab7f0b101: ICU add-on: validate mbState->converter before attempting to close.[15:36:40] <HAIKU-irker458> d2423e4b3c97: ICUCtypeData.cpp: format string fixes for tracing.[15:38:35] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has joined #haiku[15:41:20] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD744A8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[15:43:29] <korli> jessicah: congrats :)[15:43:37] <jessicah> :)[15:43:47] <jessicah> still looking into the bash/readline bug[15:44:35] <korli> why "+ 8" btw?[15:44:48] <jessicah> uh, I copied it from the function above[15:45:00] <jessicah> I guess it handles the case of x86_64?[15:46:38] <jessicah> https://github.com/haiku/haiku/blob/master/src/system/libroot/add-ons/icu/ICUCtypeData.cpp#L512[15:47:23] <jessicah> you'd have to ask oliver, he wrote all this code :p[15:47:56] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:a5ef:cd5f:a12a:9915:18> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:49:29] <jessicah> korli: maybe it's to avoid unaligned access?[15:49:39] <korli> jessicah: seems ucnv_safeClone returns a pointer which might different from the allocation, maybe alignment[15:51:48] <korli> "If the converter clone fits into the stack buffer but the stack buffer is not sufficiently aligned for the clone, then the clone will use an adjusted pointer and use an accordingly smaller buffer size."[15:52:29] <korli> hmmm http://icu-project.org/apiref/icu4c/ucnv_8h.html#a11a66c267dce12a78dac2690d983d69e[15:52:57] <korli> "stackBuffer Deprecated functionality as of ICU 52, use NULL."[15:53:15] <korli> "pBufferSize Deprecated functionality as of ICU 52, use NULL or 1."[15:53:37] <korli> seems we use deprecated functionality of ICU :)[15:54:52] <jessicah> well, L537 does the pointer check and returns error otherwise[15:55:14] <jessicah> so my change seems correct in terms of the existing implementation[15:56:45] <korli> jessicah: sure, and it actually works :)[15:58:54] <jessicah> trying to run debugger with bash isn't the easiest =/[16:01:11] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!~xemdetia@129.42.208.174> has joined #haiku[16:04:10] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:a5ef:980a:6307:7447:aff7> has joined #haiku[16:06:14] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:06:36] <jessicah> certainly doesn't help that can kill qemu with Debugger[16:06:55] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@ipd50ab3d6.speed.planet.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[16:19:52] *** kieselW <kieselW!~steini@81.27.169.82> has joined #haiku[16:22:08] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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To check it with checkfs i have to run ceckfs /Haiku[17:43:41] *** Duggan <Duggan!~Duggan@adsl-98-89-128-8.bix.bellsouth.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:49:32] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:54:49] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has joined #haiku[17:59:11] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:00:40] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d868745.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[18:02:20] <miqlas-H64> jessicah and Guys, any idea, how can i fix this? http://termbin.com/2mvt[18:03:32] <jessicah> #if defined(GET_RUSAGE) && !defined(__HAIKU__) ? :p[18:04:04] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.69.14.223.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[18:04:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[18:06:18] <miqlas-H64> jessicah: tested already, fails with other not implemented thing (sysctl)[18:16:30] <jessicah> sounds like they don't do feature detection well :p[18:16:50] <miqlas-H64> jessicah, you had right. It works.[18:17:01] <miqlas-H64> I misunderstood your change, sorry.[18:17:03] <miqlas-H64> It works now.[18:19:02] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@173-14-248-42-washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #haiku[18:19:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[18:21:47] *** GiurgiuRazvan <GiurgiuRazvan!5f4c7adb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.76.122.219> has joined #haiku[18:22:57] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has joined #haiku[18:23:15] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has joined #haiku[18:23:34] <GiurgiuRazvan> Hello, i am not quite sure what should i do now[18:23:45] <GiurgiuRazvan> i have the haikuporter task on gci[18:24:40] <GiurgiuRazvan> could you explain me ?[18:24:49] <Emrys> hi, which step are you at?[18:25:00] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.69.14.223.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[18:26:29] <Emrys> @GiurgiuRazvan,[18:27:39] <GiurgiuRazvan> i have done everything you say here[18:27:41] <GiurgiuRazvan> https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/wiki[18:28:17] <Emrys> have you tried building a recipe?[18:28:25] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has joined #haiku[18:28:29] <Emrys> it's the way we verify you completed the task[18:28:46] *** Selth <Selth!Selth@nat/redhat/x-cqhmstmggoycukbf> has quit IRC (Quit: eotd)[18:29:47] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:29:56] <GiurgiuRazvan> how i build a recipe ?[18:30:00] <GiurgiuRazvan> i am new[18:30:03] <GiurgiuRazvan> sorry for asking[18:30:38] <Emrys> if you added the alias to the profile file[18:30:55] <Emrys> then cd to haikuports and then hp recipe-to-build[18:31:14] <Emrys> so if you're trying to build which it's hp which[18:32:40] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[18:34:30] *** GiurgiuRazvan <GiurgiuRazvan!5f4c7adb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.76.122.219> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[18:34:47] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:34:58] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[18:35:30] <BrunoSpre> thx miglas but checkfs /Haiku is not working too![18:37:20] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[18:38:36] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:40:53] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has joined #haiku[18:41:21] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: jessicah * hrev50859 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=92b9c8649b57+%5Ed2423e4b3c97[18:41:22] <HAIKU-irker458> 92b9c8649b57: MultibyteToWchar: correctly handle UTF-16 surrogate pairs.[18:42:27] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[18:46:51] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d868745.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[18:46:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[18:47:42] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[18:51:08] <PulkoMandy> BrunoSpre: if it crashes, it means your disk is too much corrupt and checkfs can't fix it[18:51:43] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #haiku[18:51:56] <PulkoMandy> please save a debug report and upload it to a bugreport if possible. If this is a small partition, it would be nice to dump it (using dd or a similar tool) and share a copy with one of the devs if they need to reproduce the problem[18:51:57] <kallisti5> waddlesplash: no real way to test. I assume so[18:52:03] <waddlesplash> lol[18:52:11] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: what's with the _headers file then?[18:52:12] <waddlesplash> do we need it?[18:52:14] <kallisti5> waddlesplash: the pull request hooks do an example build[18:52:18] <waddlesplash> yeah[18:52:30] <kallisti5> but the example didn't seem to use the new http headers[18:52:32] <waddlesplash> I saw that from the first rev, you get a 500 Forbidden[18:52:35] <waddlesplash> oh[18:52:39] <kallisti5> the 500 is ok[18:52:42] <waddlesplash> yeah, I know[18:52:49] <kallisti5> that's expected. the issue is the cross-site iframe thing[18:52:49] <waddlesplash> we need to create an embedding thing in Discourse[18:52:53] <waddlesplash> ah[18:53:00] <waddlesplash> ok. well looks ok now I guess[18:53:07] <waddlesplash> so, time to deploy hugo site for reals?[18:53:11] <kallisti5> https://www.netlify.com/docs/headers-and-basic-auth/[18:53:18] <kallisti5> not yet.. need a bit more testing[18:53:34] <kallisti5> once you get it pushed to haiku.netlify.com we can start doing some basic testing of the embedded comments[18:53:40] *** sometimesspices <sometimesspices!~sometimes@kol-kvintus.cust.fsknet.dk> has joined #haiku[18:53:41] <waddlesplash> errrr[18:53:49] <waddlesplash> I don't think we should mess with Discourse embedding just yet?[18:54:04] <waddlesplash> Or - maybe let it create comment threads in a locked/hidden category?[18:54:07] <kallisti5> we can do some testing without breaking anything[18:54:07] <waddlesplash> So we can delete them all later.[18:54:19] <kallisti5> I just need to confirm everything is 100% before we go live[18:54:27] <waddlesplash> Ok. Should I change Discourse settings then?[18:54:31] <kallisti5> I can enable it, look at a few posts, then disable it[18:54:36] <kallisti5> nah. just accept the PR[18:54:38] <waddlesplash> I looked at this yesterday, I think I know how to do this[18:54:47] <waddlesplash> Well, if we don't set that up, nothing will work ....[18:54:53] <kallisti5> I know :-)[18:54:55] <kallisti5> trust me[18:55:14] <kallisti5> PR, configure the embedded for haiku.netlify.com domain[18:55:16] <kallisti5> test[18:55:18] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 6 commits to master [+3/-1/±5] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/c4c03453b028...f7b5b6845e55[18:55:20] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] kallisti5 6617b26 - discourse: Add partial for comments[18:55:21] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] kallisti5 f815876 - discourse: Add embedded comment system to blog posts[18:55:23] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] kallisti5 a609701 - faq: Rewrite FAQ in markdown[18:55:24] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] ... and 3 more commits.[18:55:28] <kallisti5> works? disable, then we know the process for www.haiku-os.org[18:55:34] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: ok, do it[18:56:06] <kallisti5> wait for the PR to build :-)[18:56:16] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:56:18] <kallisti5> also rewrote the FAQ in markdown as practice[18:56:20] <kallisti5> :-)[18:56:50] <humdinger> Oi waddlesplash! I can't merge a PR at HaikuArchives. Bug or feature?[18:56:57] <waddlesplash> humdinger: which one?[18:57:05] <humdinger> the tipster tips one[18:57:06] <kallisti5> ok... new code live @ haiku.netlify[18:57:07] <waddlesplash> you should be able to unless I messed up settings[18:57:10] <kallisti5> testing now[18:57:11] <humdinger> $wisdom[18:57:11] <bslsk05> ​Application: Set an audio file for "Vision Nick Notification" in the Sounds preferences to get a ring every time your name's being said in the IRC client Vision. <https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/applications/vision.html>[18:57:13] <waddlesplash> humdinger: looking[18:57:57] <kallisti5> bah... the _headers isn't working[18:58:02] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:186a:e60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has joined #haiku[18:58:08] <waddlesplash> humdinger: fixed[18:58:10] <kallisti5> I don't see netlify sending the extra http headers[18:58:47] <waddlesplash> yeah I don't either[18:58:51] <waddlesplash> oh well, we can straighten that out later[18:59:05] <kallisti5> oooooooh[18:59:08] <humdinger> waddlesplash: thanks! works.[18:59:14] <kallisti5> maybe i need to put it in a public dir?[18:59:28] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: do we need to do that now?[18:59:31] <waddlesplash> I can play with this later[18:59:39] <kallisti5> yeah... browser won't render without[18:59:44] <kallisti5> I can play with it a bit[18:59:44] <waddlesplash> ... it works on Firefox?[18:59:46] <waddlesplash> I think[19:00:02] <kallisti5> I see the missinx X-Forward- blah error[19:00:17] <kallisti5> anyway, I can test via the PR system[19:00:29] <kallisti5> it does do a testing build via those hooks[19:00:37] <waddlesplash> odd.[19:01:01] * kallisti5 tests anyway[19:02:20] <kallisti5> i need to make a user for the website.. brb[19:10:06] <miqlas-H64> Guys, what happend with the gradient background on the https://haiku.netlify.com/ ?[19:16:10] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has quit IRC (Quit: Ça va couper chérie…)[19:17:51] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has joined #haiku[19:24:25] <waddlesplash> miqlas-H64: gradient background? it's still there?[19:24:27] <waddlesplash> I can see it[19:24:51] <waddlesplash> or do you mean the gradient on the "About / Community /... "navbar ?[19:25:02] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[19:26:58] <humdinger> it's a bit darker than the old.[19:27:08] <humdinger> Personally I'd love to see it gone completely.[19:27:17] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[19:27:28] *** savant_d <savant_d!~savant@178.162.117.40> has joined #haiku[19:28:25] <PulkoMandy> yes, it's flat design time :D[19:28:40] <PulkoMandy> but, we can make the new site engine live first, and bikeshed about the design later[19:28:46] <waddlesplash> humdinger: PulkoMandy: Yes, the intention was to migrate first and change design alter[19:28:48] <waddlesplash> yep[19:29:36] * humdinger gets his brush and water colours[19:30:48] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:31:33] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #haiku[19:31:52] <humdinger> scottmc: I created Ace's task. please hold off publishing until we closed his current one. https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/5883936729202688/[19:32:34] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p2003005B441FBD00022314FFFEAF6410.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:34:27] <miqlas-H64> humdinger: come over with the brush, my room needs repaint too[19:34:51] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:35:40] <humdinger> painting isn't the annoying part, packing all the stuff away is.[19:35:50] <humdinger> but I guess I can skip that in your room.[19:36:13] * humdinger pictures a chair and a six pack Jäger in an empty room[19:36:54] <xdizzaster> this might sound like a dumb question, but can someone explain how humdinger just did that there?[19:37:07] <xdizzaster> that message thingy with the chair and the colours before that[19:37:10] <humdinger> /me explains[19:37:14] * humdinger explained[19:37:24] * xdizzaster understands now[19:37:33] <xdizzaster> thanks![19:37:47] * humdinger congratulates[19:37:52] * prOSy_n8Ly recommends this also in BeShare ;-)[19:38:06] <prOSy_n8Ly> this == that[19:38:07] * humdinger hasn't run BeShare for a while...[19:38:10] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[19:39:26] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:39:51] <miqlas-H64> humdinger: try to improve your creativity.[19:40:00] <miqlas-H64> I never drink at home, btw.[19:44:59] *** sometimesspices <sometimesspices!~sometimes@kol-kvintus.cust.fsknet.dk> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:47:57] *** Dacian <Dacian!5f4cbda7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.76.189.167> has joined #haiku[19:48:20] <Dacian> @humdinger[19:49:23] <humdinger> Dacian![19:51:55] <Dacian> hi[19:52:06] <Dacian> let's fix that makefile :)[19:52:06] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.69.14.223.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[19:52:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[19:54:35] <humdinger> Dacian: is amc building for you now?[19:55:09] <Dacian> no[19:55:15] <Dacian> i still get errors[19:55:29] <humdinger> are you working with the haikuarchives repo?[19:55:55] <Dacian> no[19:56:05] <humdinger> you should start with that.[19:56:27] <humdinger> fork and clone, do you changes, push, create a pr[19:56:28] <Dacian> how can i do that? git clone?[19:56:34] <humdinger> yes.[19:56:44] <humdinger> see either https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/wiki/DevelopmentModel[19:56:59] <humdinger> it's pretty much the same, only with the amc repo, not haikuports[19:57:21] <humdinger> or, explained another way: https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/humdinger/2016-05-28_contributing_pull_requests[19:57:47] <humdinger> since it'll be a one-off PR, we can get away without the feature-branch stuff.[20:01:17] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[20:01:32] <Vidrep> Good afternoon[20:02:09] <humdinger> hullo[20:03:13] <Vidrep> Hey humdinger[20:03:29] <Vidrep> Is this the alst week for GCI?[20:03:31] <Vidrep> last[20:03:38] <humdinger> it is.[20:03:39] *** Dacian <Dacian!5f4cbda7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.76.189.167> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:03:44] <humdinger> at last. :)[20:04:28] <Vidrep> Hopefully it was of benefit to the students as well as Haiku[20:05:01] <Vidrep> Any idea on the number of tasks completed? How many were of the "advanced" variety?[20:05:12] <humdinger> sure. but it always feels a bit like a race.[20:05:24] <humdinger> I'd prefer to mentor at my leasure.[20:05:32] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[20:05:39] <Begasus> evening peeps[20:05:42] <humdinger> scottmc always has the stats.[20:05:47] <humdinger> Hi Begasus[20:06:07] <Begasus> hi humdinger![20:06:48] <Begasus> trying to install scummvm_x86 with pkgman (after the latest changes and downfall with Deskbar) gives me an error with pkgman ... problem 1: nothing provides lib:libpng_x86>=16.18.0 needed by scummvm_x86-1.7.0-3[20:07:38] <humdinger> probably scummvm needs a rebuild.[20:07:49] <humdinger> there's always something going on with the png lib...[20:08:19] <Begasus> seems like it (png lib has seen some updates shortly)[20:08:35] <miqlas-H64> Begasus: check the png lib with Expander, it can shows the current provides if you click on the show content button[20:09:16] *** Dacian <Dacian!5f4cbda7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.76.189.167> has joined #haiku[20:09:43] <Dacian> @humdinger[20:09:55] <humdinger> Dacian! you're back![20:09:58] <Dacian> yes[20:10:09] <Begasus> provides: libpng16_x86 = 1.6.20 (compatible >= 1.6)[20:10:10] <Dacian> my internet was down[20:10:17] <Dacian> sorry[20:10:24] <Begasus> so it provides libpng16* now ...[20:10:28] <humdinger> bad internet[20:10:30] <Dacian> i've clonned it[20:10:36] <Dacian> no, bat router[20:10:37] <Dacian> :))[20:10:41] <humdinger> forked and cloned?[20:10:42] <Dacian> bad[20:10:45] <Dacian> yep[20:11:13] <humdinger> OK. then make the changes to the makefile you worked out yesterday[20:11:45] <Dacian> ok[20:12:46] *** pebble` <pebble`!~pebble@unaffiliated/espiral> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:13:14] <Vidrep> Have to go out. bbl[20:13:27] <Dacian> @humdinger done[20:13:47] <humdinger> so "make" and watch where it goes wrong.[20:13:54] <Vidrep> humdinger, I'll wait until after GCI is finished before I send you an email re: printing[20:14:09] <humdinger> maybe post to collabedit[20:14:20] <Vidrep> Have a good day y'all[20:14:21] <Dacian> ok[20:14:22] <humdinger> Vidrep: I look forward to it.[20:14:27] <humdinger> cu Vidrep![20:14:36] <Vidrep> Sure (sarcasm)[20:14:49] <humdinger> nah.[20:14:49] <Dacian> http://collabedit.com/t8mje[20:14:54] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[20:19:54] <Begasus> problem 1: package libpng16_x86_devel-1.6.20-2 conflicts with libpng_x86_devel provided by libpng_x86_devel-1.5.25-2[20:20:10] <Begasus> what would be the best way to go forward to stay in tune here?[20:20:18] <AndrewZ> @humdinger it's great to see so much Haiku activity, even if only students[20:20:40] <humdinger> sure. wished a few more would stay after GCI...[20:20:44] *** xemdetia_ is now known as xemdetia[20:23:11] <miqlas-H64> Begasus: check the req's in webpositive. I think it is libpng16[20:23:45] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A2924F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[20:25:01] <Begasus> looks like it miqlas-H64 ... libpng and libpng16 can exist both at the same time, just not the devel packages ...[20:29:08] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:29:10] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-ozhilcvdcywmtrol> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:29:22] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[20:29:39] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-fanbesxpgwudwgzc> has joined #haiku[20:29:45] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has joined #haiku[20:30:52] *** Muzer <Muzer!~muzer@tim32.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:31:57] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A2924F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: euver)[20:32:06] <PulkoMandy> Begasus: yes, this is expected, because the libs have different names (libpng15/libpng16) but the header files are the same[20:33:06] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:33:20] <Begasus> seems to brake some stuff for things linked against the older lib PulkoMandy, atleast I can't install scummvm/residualvm here (probably needs update on the recipe/build)[20:33:39] <PulkoMandy> yes[20:33:52] <PulkoMandy> the "libpng" provide was an error (there is no such thing in the package)[20:34:12] <Begasus> ok, good to know, I know that I have to update some recipes in the future then :)[20:34:15] <PulkoMandy> it would have broken sooner or later (later being when libpng1.7 is released) so I fixed it[20:34:33] <PulkoMandy> I tried to catch all things that depends on it but may have missed some[20:34:41] <PulkoMandy> still have to test and upload a new Qt5 package[20:34:43] <Begasus> np[20:35:00] <Begasus> good to know it's not a problem on my side :)[20:35:30] <Begasus> will try first with residualvm, that's not as large as scummvm[20:39:00] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[20:39:48] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:40:41] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:43:12] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[20:48:55] <Begasus> k ... just checked with lbreakout2, it also has the same problem with libpng, recompiled worked and it's running ok, PulkoMandy ... should I uninstall the default libpng with pkgman?[20:49:14] <Begasus> as it's still in the list when you search for it?[20:51:20] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has joined #haiku[20:53:15] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev50860 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=3eac8208dfcd+%5E92b9c8649b57[20:53:16] <HAIKU-irker458> 3eac8208dfcd: Remove BStringRef and users.[20:54:37] <PulkoMandy> Begasus: the package is still named libpng, it's just the "lib:" entry that changed[20:54:47] <PulkoMandy> do a pkgman full-sync if you want to be sure[20:55:31] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 9 commits to master [+17/-0/±10] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/f7b5b6845e55...22b5c04bac35[20:55:33] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash f4ff88f - drupal2hugo: Move note about CSV dumps to top of file.[20:55:34] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 9ed0532 - drupal2hugo.js: Tweak filenames and add note about dumped files.[20:55:36] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 7344a2a - drupal2hugo.js: Add a mechanism to skip already-existing files.[20:55:37] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] ... and 6 more commits.[20:55:39] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/6570078b4999...1735991a278b[20:55:40] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] xdizzaster 1735991 - commandtimer: added recipe (#1035)[20:55:47] <Begasus> did that one before (nothing to do)[20:57:20] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[20:58:51] <Begasus> libs look ok in system/packages, what about when png updates to 1.7, do the recipes need updates also?[21:04:51] <Begasus> grep'ng' the haikuports tree for libpng gives me this list ... http://pastebin.com/mtSWAiL5[21:07:39] *** Muzer <Muzer!~muzer@tim32.org> has joined #haiku[21:09:55] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[21:10:55] <PulkoMandy> Begasus: yes, recipes will need update to 1.7, but since they depend on "libpng16", you can keep 1.6 and 1.7 installed side by side until everything is updated[21:11:34] <Begasus> k, thanks PulkoMandy[21:12:58] <waddlesplash> humdinger: fixed perms for AMC[21:13:21] <humdinger> waddlesplash: is that a case by case basis?[21:13:28] <waddlesplash> it looks like it[21:13:33] <waddlesplash> wait, there's an option in settings[21:13:43] <waddlesplash> humdinger: there, that might fix your permissions across all repos[21:13:50] *** ADS_Sr_ <ADS_Sr_!~ADS_Sr@cpe-173-175-17-54.hot.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[21:13:54] <humdinger> thanks![21:16:12] *** ADS_Sr <ADS_Sr!~ADS_Sr@cpe-173-175-17-54.hot.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:16:18] *** ADS_Sr_ is now known as ADS_Sr[21:17:48] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/22b5c04bac35...de3b02bb0f2c[21:17:50] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash de3b02b - layouts: Update copyright and fix RSS URLs in footer.[21:19:01] <waddlesplash> humdinger: oh - for the user guide, are we just using the one at cgit.haiku-os.org now?[21:19:27] <humdinger> for the website?[21:19:31] <waddlesplash> humdinger: or is the one at https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/contents.html still used[21:19:32] <waddlesplash> yes[21:19:52] <humdinger> the cgit doesn't render the HTML. sadly.[21:20:02] <humdinger> always source[21:20:04] <waddlesplash> ah, ok, so I need to download that one and import it[21:20:17] <waddlesplash> into the new website[21:22:00] <humdinger> which means we always need two manual exports. once from the online site to trunk, then to the website...[21:22:41] * waddlesplash wonders if he should change this to do it via script instead of importing entire userguide into website repo[21:22:42] <humdinger> a propos, an export of the user guide and welcome page would be nice.[21:23:32] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3369 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed jam unittests] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/3369 blamelist: Adrien Destugues <pulkomandy at pulkomandy dot tk>[21:23:49] *** Emrys_ <Emrys_!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[21:26:51] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:29:11] *** Emrys_ <Emrys_!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:30:19] <PulkoMandy> humdinger: do we need it in trunk anyway? why not make an userguide package instead?[21:31:03] <humdinger> sure. it'll have to be exported to some repo though.[21:31:08] <humdinger> haikuarchives?[21:31:19] <PulkoMandy> I would use the haiku github account[21:31:29] <PulkoMandy> (where we have webkit and mesa)[21:31:46] <PulkoMandy> http://github.com/haiku/[21:31:53] <PulkoMandy> and the website, so that makes sense I guess[21:31:58] <humdinger> yes. then the website could link there.[21:32:19] <PulkoMandy> yes, and we can probably make it so haiku-userguide.github.io serves an online version?[21:32:31] <PulkoMandy> (https://pages.github.com/)[21:32:35] <humdinger> I have no idea what and who has to change the export function at the user guide site[21:33:32] <PulkoMandy> not sure anyone knows :/[21:33:50] <PulkoMandy> but apparently we have the source to dig in: https://github.com/haiku/userguide-translator[21:35:14] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)[21:37:11] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3235 of haiku-master-x86 is complete: Failure [failed jam unittests] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86/builds/3235 blamelist: Adrien Destugues <pulkomandy at pulkomandy dot tk>[21:37:17] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[21:37:27] <Begasus> just created a pr for lbreakout2, I'm guessing this should be ok?[21:39:59] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[21:41:54] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:43:54] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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build_for_deploy.sh: Delete the 'public' directory before running Hugo.[22:01:04] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[22:01:09] <Begasus> hmmm strange, just die a git pull upstream master and a push back to github, but my remote doesn't seem to be in sync with haikuports? :/[22:01:42] <Begasus> die/did*[22:02:04] <Begasus> https://github.com/Begasus/haikuports/tree/master/games-action[22:02:16] <Begasus> no bomberclone or powermanga in there ...[22:03:34] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d868745.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[22:03:49] <Begasus> err ... they are not in haikuports tree anymore also?[22:04:44] <PulkoMandy> git log says they never were?[22:04:57] <Begasus> maybe some lost work here then ;)[22:05:25] <Begasus> I thought they were in already, seems not :)[22:07:00] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:07:47] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-fanbesxpgwudwgzc> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:08:11] <PulkoMandy> well if you had committed them, you can search for them in your git reflog[22:08:57] <PulkoMandy> git reflog games-action/powermanga[22:09:14] <PulkoMandy> this should list the commits, then you can checkout the last one and create a new branch from there[22:09:25] <PulkoMandy> or cherry-pick them in your currant branch, if you prefer[22:09:43] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-lazuoutxvdbiaqmx> has joined #haiku[22:09:48] <PulkoMandy> (do this quickly, if there are no branch pointing to them, git will delete the commits after some time)[22:10:41] <Begasus> no matches[22:11:07] <PulkoMandy> no commits then. Not sure where your files went[22:11:45] <Begasus> np, probably something I was working on back then (file went back to may this year, probably never commited yes)[22:11:55] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:18:27] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[22:18:58] *** Duggan <Duggan!~Duggan@adsl-74-243-46-190.bix.bellsouth.net> has joined #haiku[22:25:50] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-1/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/94c731ff0392...69ceda988b7c[22:25:51] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 69ceda9 - Reinstate the contact page.[22:27:03] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3236 of haiku-master-x86 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86/builds/3236[22:28:05] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-81-192-82.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:28:21] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-166-190-91.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #haiku[22:28:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[22:30:00] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/69ceda988b7c...d2067e01f4f8[22:30:01] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash d2067e0 - contact: Fix missing form name attributes.[22:35:53] <Duggan> jessicah, congrats on fixing gawk :)[22:37:17] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-lazuoutxvdbiaqmx> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:37:20] *** xemdetia_ <xemdetia_!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-seysuaaemeiykbxi> has joined #haiku[22:37:31] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:37:52] *** xemdetia_ <xemdetia_!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-seysuaaemeiykbxi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:39:37] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-ibmvvgbnjxgpzhkq> has joined #haiku[22:40:45] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3370 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/3370[22:41:08] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[22:41:53] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[22:41:55] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3328 of haiku-master-x86_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_hybrid/builds/3328[22:42:55] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:47:32] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!alam@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:48:11] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/d2067e01f4f8...a2182227058e[22:48:13] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash a218222 - Initial fixup of donation page.[22:48:51] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[22:49:25] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.moscow.rt.ru> has joined #haiku[22:49:47] *** savant_d <savant_d!~savant@178.162.117.40> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[22:54:41] <Dacian> @waddlesplash[22:54:46] <waddlesplash> mm?[22:55:24] <Dacian> how can i write in a recipe that it has to take for example libx over vers y[22:56:47] <Dacian> i mean devel:libx version>= x.y.z[22:56:49] <Dacian> ?[22:57:16] <waddlesplash> I think just >= x.y.z is good enough?[22:57:20] <waddlesplash> I can't recall directly[22:57:31] <Dacian> ok[22:58:36] <Dacian> you were right i think, i mean it build but it still says lib >= is required[23:01:18] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-ibmvvgbnjxgpzhkq> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:01:24] *** xemdetia_ <xemdetia_!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-pkersapzqzoxvpst> has joined #haiku[23:04:03] <Begasus> sound out why I didn't commit bomberclone PulkoMandy ;) it needed the patch to start from Tracker (but I still need to kill it with PC) :/[23:04:12] <Begasus> but aside from that it's working ;)[23:04:51] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.69.14.223.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[23:05:51] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/a2182227058e...92a7a8098bda[23:05:53] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 92a7a80 - favicon: Update to HiDPI version.[23:07:32] <Begasus> going down here, g'night peeps[23:07:35] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[23:10:21] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[23:12:32] *** xemdetia_ <xemdetia_!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-pkersapzqzoxvpst> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:16:13] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:16:40] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:17:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o kallisti5[23:17:35] <Dacian> @waddlesplash can you help me with this error http://collabedit.com/n7nhq is about adding libcrypto[23:18:07] <waddlesplash> Dacian: Why did you add versions for libcrypto?[23:18:12] <waddlesplash> Generally those will be added automatically.[23:18:41] <Dacian> i've taken generic recipe for libs and i've just modified it[23:19:58] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte)[23:20:00] <waddlesplash> oh, well, you don't need the version numbers[23:20:05] <waddlesplash> just remove those and leave lib:libcrypto[23:20:31] *** hako <hako!~hako@2a01:388:394:112::1:8> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:20:59] *** hako <hako!~hako@2a01:388:394:112::1:8> has joined #haiku[23:21:59] *** AndrewZ <AndrewZ!4a4b0cb6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.75.12.182> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:25:52] <Dacian> @waddlesplash it still says about libcrypto is requires[23:28:12] <waddlesplash> paste?[23:30:12] <Dacian> http://collabedit.com/n7nhq[23:34:17] <waddlesplash> Dacian: devel:libcrypto... is not in buildrequires[23:34:30] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Macabre?)[23:34:44] *** prOSy_n8Ly <prOSy_n8Ly!~prOSy@p5B035B5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[23:37:18] <Dacian> @waddlesplash sorry for losing your time...[23:41:05] <Dacian> @jessicah are you here?[23:41:18] <Dacian> or you mmu_man[23:41:23] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has joined #haiku[23:41:56] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[23:43:30] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:47:28] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:48:03] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[23:51:13] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[23:51:52] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:53:21] <Dacian> @waddlesplash[23:53:28] <Dacian> are you on?[23:53:33] <waddlesplash> m?[23:54:08] <Dacian> i've added devel libcrypto in build requires but it still says that it is required[23:54:18] <waddlesplash> well, idk what's going on[23:54:25] <waddlesplash> paste?[23:54:30] <waddlesplash> oh, I see[23:54:56] <waddlesplash> Dacian: paste output?[23:55:35] <Dacian> i've put in collabedit[23:56:51] <waddlesplash> Dacian: I see some awk: command not found errors[23:56:58] <waddlesplash> maybe add awk to PREREQUIRES[23:57:49] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:57:49] <Dacian> i've added it now[23:57:51] <waddlesplash> Dacian: aha, it looks like it wants pkgconfig[23:58:01] <waddlesplash> Dacian: add cmd:pkg_config$secondaryArch[23:58:05] <waddlesplash> Suffix to prerequires[23:59:09] <Dacian> thx