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[00:00:49] <AlienSoldier> brother DCP-7065DN
[00:01:04] <Vidrep> I only have experience with EPSON. Haiku supports both printing and scanning.
[00:01:35] <AlienSoldier> damn that browser from another workspace writing over the app server in a current workspace bug is annoying
[00:01:50] <Vidrep> I have a Brother printer as well. I never did get it working on Haiku (model MFC-J4510DW)
[00:02:21] <AlienSoldier> it comfort me knowing i am not alone being scred
[00:02:28] <Vidrep> Niot much luck with Canon printer either (Pixma 170)
[00:02:29] <AlienSoldier> *screwed :)
[00:03:04] <Vidrep> You may need to try different drivers (preferably Gutenprint)
[00:03:41] <Vidrep> Just because your model isn't listed, does not mean it won't work with another driver
[00:04:07] <AlienSoldier> Vidrep i tested a bunch, i guess i will need to test them all systematically
[00:04:39] <Duggan> Find in Pe ->
[00:04:45] <Duggan> oops... lemme try again...
[00:05:16] <Duggan> Find in Pe -> "An OS error occurred: No such file or directory"
[00:05:20] <Vidrep> My EPSON XP-820 isn't listed either. But after trying many different Gutenprint drivers I found one that worked perfectly (PX7V driver)
[00:07:13] <dax007> can someone help me out with squashing commits
[00:07:16] <AlienSoldier> seem the test page wrote with the pdf writer is also wrong, so that would remove printer driver issue.
[00:07:45] <Vidrep> I contacted the Gutenprint development team with my findings, and they informed me that it would be added to the next release.
[00:08:20] <Vidrep> The printer test page is also broken
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[00:08:49] <AlienSoldier> hehe just my luck
[00:09:02] <Vidrep> AlienSoldier, have you been able to print anything at all (StyledEdit, Pe, BePDF or Terminal?)
[00:09:30] <AlienSoldier> it feel like Dennis hopper firered full barrel on Haiku with the Super Mario Movie devolution gun
[00:10:18] <AlienSoldier> Vidrep yes, the test page (not rendering right, same as with the pdf writer driver) and a bit of text from styled edit.
[00:10:47] <Vidrep> Try the Gutenprint drivers
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[00:12:13] <Vidrep> When I used the PCL5 driver on my Epson, it did some really crazy things. I actually had to unplug my printer to get it to stop!
[00:13:19] <AlienSoldier> yes, soemting worked i but just printed empy page at infinite
[00:14:14] <Vidrep> My advice to anyone wanting to print on Haiku - buy an EPSON!
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[00:17:53] <Vidrep> I have two of them (XP-820 <$100 on sale at London Drugs, NX625 $25 on Kijiji). Both support printing and scanning on Haiku.
[00:19:09] <AlienSoldier> and web+ does not seem to have a print option and the QT browser only want to print to file, the pain!!
[00:19:10] <Vidrep> AlienSoldier, please share your test results with us should you find a printer driver that works. OK?
[00:20:46] <dax007> i'm squashing a few commits.. how do i save and get out out of the window i'm using
[00:20:47] <AlienSoldier> if it ever work, but it seem that is is such a non priority right now that i wonder if it is worth to tackle that
[00:21:41] <AlienSoldier> The whole printing interface reeks
[00:21:56] <AlienSoldier> it pop everywhere and does not remember the default we choose
[00:22:10] <Vidrep> humdinger and I have been working quietly behind the scene to improve that
[00:22:41] <Skipp_OSX> dax007, you probably need to set your EDITOR env var to something else
[00:23:00] <dax007> i'm doing all of this on terminal
[00:23:06] <dax007> i'm not using any editor
[00:23:42] <Skipp_OSX> dax007, EDITOR sets the editor used in the command line to edit a file, for example by git
[00:24:42] <dax007> i'll give a link to where i'm stuck
[00:24:46] <Skipp_OSX> dax007, if you run
[00:24:50] <Skipp_OSX> echo $EDITOR
[00:24:55] <Skipp_OSX> what does it print?
[00:25:06] <Vidrep> AlienSoldier, http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/p_Supported_Printers.php
[00:25:08] <dax007> wait...
[00:26:19] <AlienSoldier> Vidrep i did check those and the two DCP one do not work
[00:27:15] <AlienSoldier> Vidrep so as it is, with the printer you have you can print from bepdf?
[00:27:20] <dax007> skipp_osx: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxAfljRrbdQwRnNocDVYWEhjNGs here's a screenshot
[00:27:41] <Vidrep> AlienSoldier, if you're bound and determined to print on Haiku, buy a HP, Canon or Epson from the Gutenprint supported printers list.
[00:27:43] <Skipp_OSX> dax007, that is nano
[00:27:56] <Skipp_OSX> (the default EDITOR) ?
[00:27:59] <dax007> so how do i get out of it
[00:28:23] <Skipp_OSX> dax007, the instructions are at the bottom ^ means control
[00:28:47] <AlienSoldier> Vidrep i rarely print, so i am better to give $1 to my neigboor to print me 1 or 2 page each year
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[00:29:04] <Vidrep> AlienSoldier, yes, both of my printers print from StyledEdit, Pe, BePDF, Terminal, AND the flatbed scanner is supported by Sanity.
[00:29:04] <Skipp_OSX> so ^o to write ^x to exit
[00:29:38] <Skipp_OSX> dax007, and if you type echo $EDITOR it will spit out "nano"
[00:29:53] <dax007> ok...
[00:30:06] <AlienSoldier> Vidrep i guess i will email brother and link them the haiku image.
[00:30:24] <AlienSoldier> it probably does not work well on linux either
[00:31:17] <Vidrep> I had an opportunity to chat with Philippe Houdoin one day, and he was surprised that his Sanity app supported the new Epson
[00:31:42] <Vidrep> I sent him a few screenshots as proof :)
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[00:34:15] <AlienSoldier> Vidrep by the way i installed a nightly this afternoon on a laptop and it repeatly crash on opening the deskbar, let me know if you experience this
[00:35:05] <Vidrep> Yup, same here. Right click on the desktop, bring up a terminal and do a pkgman update to hrev50849 to fix it
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[00:39:24] <Vidrep> AlienSoldier, were you able to pkgman update OK?
[00:39:53] <AlienSoldier> no it say *** aborded no error
[00:40:20] <Vidrep> Mine worked OK. Hmmm
[00:41:00] <Vidrep> AlienSoldier, you're just having a bad day overall, aren't you? :)
[00:41:02] <AlienSoldier> seem network is not up, ping is not working either
[00:41:22] <AlienSoldier> yes, quite a shity day
[00:42:01] <Vidrep> Did PulkoMandy ever fix the problems with mp3? I haven't had time to check yet
[00:42:08] <AlienSoldier> i have another partition so i guess i will get another image from there
[00:42:18] <AlienSoldier> not that i know
[00:42:33] <AlienSoldier> the regression pile up really fast around here
[00:43:46] <Vidrep> Last night I tried installing to GPT partitions again. I told jessicah how much better it was than before. I spoke too soon...
[00:44:50] <Vidrep> Right after I said that I found a problem with the boot menu. After going back to an older hrev it was OK.
[00:45:32] <AlienSoldier> wait a second, perhap i am in safemode...
[00:46:18] <Vidrep> I haven't traced when the regression took place yet. Maybe later tonight, then let her know, if she doesn't know already
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[00:47:44] <BrunoSpre> hello
[00:47:51] <Vidrep> Hi
[00:48:10] <AlienSoldier> Vidrep that was it. I tested if someoption would allow finish the boothing to desktop some hours ago and forgot i stayed booted that way. Ping work now at least
[00:48:16] <BrunoSpre> Is there a hrev50849 build now?
[00:48:50] <Vidrep> No nightly image, but you can pkgman update now
[00:48:51] <BrunoSpre> yes Deskbar was broken since 50840 up
[00:49:00] <BrunoSpre> ah ok thx
[00:49:10] <BrunoSpre> will try it now
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[00:55:42] <BrunoSpre> Yes hrev50849 Deskbar works again...
[00:56:18] <AlienSoldier> of course continuing my bad day, i still can't get it to update
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[01:01:03] <owenca> PulkoMandy i am working on https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/3353. is there a specification for the values of the limits?
[01:04:07] <BrunoSpre> pkgman add http://packages.haiku-os.org/haiku/master/$(getarch)/current
[01:04:30] <BrunoSpre> pkgman add http://packages.haiku-os.org/haikuports/master/repo/$(getarch)/current
[01:04:33] <Vidrep> owenca, PulkoMandy is probably sleeping; 1am in France
[01:05:01] <BrunoSpre> pkgman update
[01:05:32] <BrunoSpre> and then shutdown -r
[01:05:49] <owenca> Vidrep oh i will try later. thx
[01:05:54] <BrunoSpre> AlienSoldier still there? Still ok?
[01:06:05] <BrunoSpre> bye all
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[01:08:45] <AlienSoldier> yes, that was what was needed, i was aways struggleing with it because web+ was not wanting to display haiku site to get that info (bad day continue)
[01:09:46] <AlienSoldier> i hope i run out of bad luck because i have a job interview this thu
[01:10:18] <AlienSoldier> rebooting that laptop
[01:11:06] <AlienSoldier> i notice that the same stay in limbo at restart still exist (like i have with my other laptop)
[01:11:23] <AlienSoldier> yay, deskbar
[01:12:43] <AlienSoldier> Vidrep web+ still not displaying that said, it work on your side?
[01:13:00] <Vidrep> Which???
[01:13:43] <AlienSoldier> 50849
[01:14:20] <Vidrep> You mean a nightly image? No, not yet.
[01:15:01] <AlienSoldier> i did not did a nightly just an upade finally
[01:15:09] <AlienSoldier> but seem web+ is broke
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[01:16:14] <AlienSoldier> i must be in a dream currently
[01:19:33] <Skipp_OSX> sry I wanted the nightly image to go out broken so I could do testing, then I reverted my changes
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[01:20:04] <Skipp_OSX> (I broke Deskbar)
[01:21:04] <AlienSoldier> that came back now, but web+ starved oxygen it seem
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[01:22:00] <AlienSoldier> haiku depot no longer seem to work either
[01:22:42] <AlienSoldier> gui load but it is empty
[01:23:15] <Vidrep> Web+ and HaikuDepot working OK here
[01:24:10] <AlienSoldier> i guess i will redo a whole install later
[01:24:20] <AlienSoldier> seem impedance mismatch are at work
[01:25:52] <AlienSoldier> going for a shower, i hope my heater element will not be burned out
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[01:48:06] <Duggan> AlienSoldier you know you're not supposed to have a heater with you in the shower, right?
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[01:49:20] <AlienSoldier> Duggan i am not supposed to have a keyboard either :)
[01:49:44] <IIsi50MHz> Or if you do, you gotta put a balloon or something around the business end of yo' heater...
[01:50:22] <AlienSoldier> alike a douche bag?
[01:54:10] <Duggan> AlienSoldier lol no I suppose not
[01:54:43] <AlienSoldier> i got a hard enough day as it is
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[01:59:52] <Stephanie> Question - if something is public domain, what license should it have on Github?
[02:05:12] <Duggan> public domain is public domain... there is no license
[02:05:37] <AlienSoldier> public domain is no licence, so if you need to fill feild, Creative Commons is probably the closest
[02:05:47] <Duggan> or "none"
[02:05:57] <Duggan> but I'm not on github so I don't know if that's an option
[02:06:01] <AlienSoldier> yep, if none is present that is better
[02:06:15] <Stephanie> Ok thanks
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[02:13:57] * IIsi50MHz screenshots his Google Rewards balance and Sends Feedback: "No survey at this time." $1.37
[02:14:11] <IIsi50MHz> Gif of the Magi, Google? ^_^
[02:14:26] <IIsi50MHz> Gift*
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[03:13:02] <Perelandra> If I do 'git format-patch origin' I get one patch file for each commit done. Is there a way to roll all commits into one patch file?
[03:25:03] <Perelandra> Maybe I answer my own question. I found this: git format-patch origin --stdout > all_patches
[03:31:05] <ohnx> lol time to update all the copyrights to 2017...
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[03:46:30] <scottmc> any Google Code-In students in need of help?
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[04:00:58] <Stephanie> Yes scottmc - question: If I build a recipe and get "packaging policy violations in strict mode", is that a problem with my haiku settings, or the recipe/architecture?
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[04:38:33] <owenca> hi scottmc i am not sure if haiku has granted my request on coverity
[04:40:17] <owenca> i still can't view any defects
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[04:41:18] <ohnx> what if that's because there are no defects?! ;d
[04:42:28] <FlyingJester> Zaro Bougs
[04:43:02] <owenca> ohnx it says 276 defects
[04:43:22] <owenca> outstanding defects
[04:44:04] <owenca> last analyzed on Dec 21, 2016
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[05:34:55] <Skipp_OSX> hey why does the background turn black when I scale a bitmap with turn B_FILTER_BITMAP_BILINEAR on?
[05:35:00] <Skipp_OSX> before: https://insightfactory.tumblr.com/post/155656735422/deskbar-leaf-bitmap-fallback-does-not-scale-very
[05:35:12] <Skipp_OSX> after: https://insightfactory.tumblr.com/post/155657131027/deskbar-leaf-bitmap-scaled-with-bilinear-filtering
[05:40:29] <Skipp_OSX> must be a bug somewhere...
[05:41:37] <ohnx> maybe bilinear scaling doesn't like alpha channel?
[05:42:08] <ohnx> also i thought the vector is used now?
[05:48:34] <Skipp_OSX> ohnx: yeah I'm working on fallback case, non-essential
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[07:13:43] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/cc90bab47fa8...a3482aa006b3
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[07:23:33] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±19] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/a3482aa006b3...485bdc0283b4
[07:23:34] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] vanishakesswani 485bdc0 - Tested for build on x86_64 (#997)
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[08:07:55] <prOSy> hiya
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[08:13:11] <korli> PulkoMandy: Qt 5.6 is marked as untested in the ARCHITECTURES tag, so what's the problem?
[08:13:14] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev50850 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d5b6133b934b+%5Eb1967b1012c0
[08:13:15] <HAIKU-irker458> d5b6133b934b: App Server: style fixes
[08:15:09] <korli> Skipp_OSX: you're on the safe side with this commit :)
[08:15:45] <Skipp_OSX> :)
[08:16:24] <Skipp_OSX> needed to up my batting avg
[08:17:41] <Skipp_OSX> g'night all
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[08:19:59] <scottmc> hey korli! Keeping up with all the flood of GCI work going on?
[08:22:33] <scottmc> 50 students curretly working on a task.
[08:23:44] <korli> hey scottmc! yeah, though I wonder why we still have beginner tasks at this point of GCI ...
[08:27:55] <scottmc> The install Haiku task? It gets kids introduced to Haiku if nothing else. Many of them are just trying GCI out for the first time and if we catch a few students eyes and they decide to do GCI again next year...
[08:29:57] <korli> scottmc: haikuporter task, I see what you mean, but we never know whether GCI will happen next year for us...
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[08:30:43] <korli> I ought to think about my picks for next week
[08:31:52] <scottmc> too bad i didn't think to add the x86_64 recipe checking eariler, we could have have more tasks to fix them.
[08:32:50] <scottmc> Any Google Code-In students in need of any help right now?
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[08:34:20] <scottmc> hey Emrys!
[08:34:29] <Emrys> hello scottmc!
[08:35:33] <scottmc> i squash-merged dax007's readme task. seems to have worked.
[08:35:37] <Emrys> as for any students needing help, Stephanie and owenca asked a few questions, seen on channel log
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[08:35:59] <Emrys> that's good
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[08:36:36] <scottmc> oh yeah owenca was asking about coverity. I'm not exacty sure I know my way around there.
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[08:37:02] <Emrys> it took him quite a while to get the hang of github but he did learn a few things in the end
[08:37:55] <scottmc> yeah, and so did i. i might even be able to commit without getting stray commits attached to mine...
[08:41:30] <Emrys> oops it seems humdinger added a review one minute later
[08:41:41] <scottmc> yup, i see that.
[08:42:00] <scottmc> should be easy enough to fix.
[08:42:13] <scottmc> i'll let dax007 do it though
[08:42:27] <Emrys> yeah. also Stephanie asked something about a recipe build error, not sure what that one means
[08:42:30] <Emrys> okay haha
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[08:53:04] <Emrys> we do have a sudden influx of students in these last few days, but those who completed their first task might not get to complete three. not so much that can be done now unfortunately.
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[09:08:56] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: axeld * hrev50851 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=44c76b26e8c8+%5Ed5b6133b934b
[09:08:57] <HAIKU-irker458> 44c76b26e8c8: bfs: Made updating the boot block more secure.
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[09:29:40] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±6] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/485bdc0283b4...1a3b37f4b6b1
[09:29:42] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] hermord 1a3b37f - tmux,parted,bc,htop: enable x86_64 (#1022)
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[09:56:38] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/1a3b37f4b6b1...b63e4042a87c
[09:56:39] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson b63e404 - BeFar: fix SOURCE_URI: $(HOMEPAGE) -> $HOMEPAGE
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[10:07:18] <miqlas-H64> Hi
[10:09:26] <prOSy> hi
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[10:16:52] <miqlas-H64> Hi prOSy! How doing? Any news?
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[10:20:33] <miqlas-H64> mmu! How doing?!
[10:22:22] <miqlas-H64> mmu_man: You made the mdp port, right? I tried to update it to the latest one, released some days ago, butthe old patchset doesn't works anymore. I've seen, they merged some of your changes, but it doesn't build cleanly on Haiku right now. The rdef file is missing. I tried to rework your patchset, but failed :(
[10:22:41] <miqlas-H64> Maybe you can look into it.
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[10:29:00] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/b63e4042a87c...516ad6ceb9fd
[10:29:02] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson 516ad6c - gnutls: bump to 3.5.8.
[10:32:18] <jessicah> miqlas-H64: re your comment other day about gawk-4.1.0, yes, even that recipe still doesn't work correctly
[10:32:35] <jessicah> it seems the patch to disable multibyte doesn't seem to apply anymore
[10:32:54] <jessicah> korli is aware of it though, and I think he may be looking into it?
[10:33:32] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/516ad6ceb9fd...3bcab16bf621
[10:33:34] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] dacianf 3bcab16 - dmtx_utils: new recipe (GCI 2016) (#1021)
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[10:43:44] <miqlas-H64> jessicah: just looking at the DesktopEditor from onlyoffice, and they include the whole AGG source code in their sources. Maybe it could be a nice candiadate for Haiku.
[10:44:03] <miqlas-H64> Btw the GUI is Qt based, so not ideal
[10:44:27] <korli> jessicah: not looking into gawk yet
[10:45:32] <miqlas-H64> But they have NO info about the building process, just some makefiles. The ArchLinux guys tried to package it, but at the end they fetched the portable linux build, and repackaged it. Somebody mentioned on the Arch forum, that DesktopEditor needs some gtk/gnome libs. Hopefully not a hard dependency.
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[10:46:54] <miqlas-H64> Eh, it took just 1 secod to get an error during the compiling process. :(
[10:49:32] <miqlas-H64> Ouch, failing too hard. It is well beyond me.
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[10:50:55] <jessicah> korli: sure, I didn't expect you to jump on it :p
[10:51:19] <jessicah> and I plan to dig around a little myself anyway :)
[10:55:51] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/3bcab16bf621...ac582447b515
[10:55:52] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb ac58244 - Updated recipe for NetPulse
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[10:57:55] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: humdinger * hrev50852 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=5e1e245be8ac+%5E44c76b26e8c8
[10:57:56] <HAIKU-irker458> 5e1e245be8ac: Updated NetPulse package
[10:57:57] <korli> humdinger was really fast!
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[11:36:13] <Duggan> are we having fun yet?
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[11:46:46] <miqlas-H64> Duggan: yeah, all time, every time!
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[12:21:29] <vanisha> I am trying to install https://github.com/jackburton79/bescreencapture/releases/download/20170110-snapshot/bescreencapture-2.2.2-1-x86.hpkg but HaikuDepot say's I can't install it .
[12:22:09] <vanisha> Idk why . Can anyone confirm after trying out on their PC ?
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[12:30:44] <prOSy> vanisha: gimme half an hour, latest nightly is downloading, after installing i can give it a shoot
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[12:44:04] <prOSy_n8Ly> vanisha: same here
[12:44:34] <prOSy_n8Ly> package problems
[12:47:10] <BrunoSpre> hrev 50849 works
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[12:56:07] <Ace__> hello
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[12:59:52] <vanisha> prOSy_n8Ly: Ok, Thank you .
[12:59:56] <Ace__> how to make new pull request?
[13:00:11] <korli> vanisha: x86 packages are for x86 images, not for x86_gcc2 (hybrid or not)
[13:00:51] <korli> Ace__: https://help.github.com/articles/creating-a-pull-request/
[13:01:28] <vanisha> Ace__: Or else you might want to check out http://hisham.hm/2016/01/01/how-to-make-a-pull-request-on-github-a-quick-tutorial/
[13:02:07] <Ace__> hmm, I already made a pull request before, but it keeps appearing when I try to make another pull request that exclude the last one....
[13:03:08] <vanisha> Ace__: You mean the old commits are there in the new pull request too ?
[13:03:17] <Ace__> yeah
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[13:03:47] <vanisha> Ace__: You might want to checkout https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/wiki/DevelopmentModel
[13:04:07] <vanisha> Ace__: You need to create branches .
[13:05:28] <Ace__> okay, thanks, I will check it out
[13:06:26] <vanisha> Ace__: np
[13:08:20] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/ac582447b515...3350d6eb0eb4
[13:08:22] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] xdizzaster 3350d6e - wavpack: added recipe (GCI 2016) (#1029)
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[13:14:35] <miqlas-H64> korli: gcc5 only programs cannot be installed on gcc2h, right? Is there any reason for that?
[13:19:49] <korli> miqlas-H64: gcc5 programs can be run, the packages though cannot be installed
[13:20:37] <korli> it's like a missing dependency
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[13:27:46] <Ace__> Make your changes and commit them as you'd normally do.
[13:27:54] <Ace__> where should i make it?
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[13:41:23] <miqlas-H64> korli: then just the package kit requires some patching to accept haiku_x86_gcc5 as haiku_x86 i suppose, right?
[13:44:15] <korli> miqlas-H64: no, we're talking about different repositories behind, a x86_gcc2 package kit will try to resolve everything on its x86_gcc2 configured repository (the x86 one is not even configured)
[13:45:24] <miqlas-H64> oh, it doesn't looks like an easy ride to fix it. There is a plan to unify the packages between the gcc5 supported archs, right?
[13:47:20] <korli> not that I know, there are like different distros if you like, independently built and maintained
[13:48:35] <miqlas-H64> but it would spare compile time for the build bots, right?
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[13:52:51] <BrunoSpre> hi all... I forgot where the save path for the MIDIFont file... TimGM6mb.sf2 where should it go to? Drag'n drop does'nt work... thx all
[13:56:20] <korli> miqlas-H64: I think that's the least of the problems. consistency of the repositories is the key, see how much the libpng tweak has broken
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[14:04:01] <xdizzaster> Hi! Could someone help me with something? In a lot of repos on HaikuArchives, there are .proj files. I'm guessing they are the project files of some IDE. In this case which IDE and what can I use to open them?
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[14:06:05] <dacianf> Hello
[14:06:56] <dacianf> i have to make a recipe for this https://github.com/HaikuArchives/AMC
[14:07:37] <dacianf> how can i tell to recipe to get into minischeme ?
[14:09:25] <korli> xdizzaster: I think proj are for BeIDE
[14:09:45] <jessicah> xdizzaster: I think Paladin may also be able to open them
[14:09:54] <korli> dacianf: "cd minischeme"
[14:09:54] <jessicah> Paladin is supposed to be a BeIDE replacement
[14:09:58] <BrunoSpre> can he open the files with Paladin too?? I dont think so
[14:10:09] <dacianf> aha
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[14:10:51] <BrunoSpre> BeIDE is available for HAIKU? dont think so
[14:10:51] <dacianf> and how korli how can i find what is the license?
[14:11:08] <BrunoSpre> try with Paladin
[14:12:08] <korli> dacianf: license is described in minscheme/README
[14:12:31] <dacianf> i cannot find it
[14:12:40] <dacianf> https://github.com/HaikuArchives/AMC/blob/master/amc/README
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[14:13:08] <xdizzaster> sorry, my keyboard decided to throw a fit so I had to restart
[14:13:18] <xdizzaster> no, paladin can't open .proj files
[14:13:27] <xdizzaster> or at least I haven't managed to make it to
[14:13:36] <xdizzaster> I'll try again
[14:13:38] <xdizzaster> thanks
[14:13:43] <korli> dacianf: for minischeme it's "Public domain"
[14:13:49] <dacianf> ok
[14:13:50] <dacianf> thx
[14:14:09] <korli> see https://github.com/HaikuArchives/AMC/tree/master/minischeme
[14:14:11] <dacianf> and at copyright?
[14:14:23] <dacianf> same?
[14:15:39] <korli> 1989 Atsushi Moriwaki 1989, 1994 Akira KIDA 2004 W.Boeke
[14:17:27] <korli> bbl
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[14:29:15] <dacianf> korli i have an error here are both, the recipe and error http://pastebin.com/ztXwJMFY
[14:36:44] <xdizzaster> Another question. If the program for which I am writing a recipe does not have a license file or anything regarding license whatsoever, does that make it public domain?
[14:36:53] <jessicah> no
[14:38:34] <jessicah> technically, it's copyright the author(s) with all rights reserved
[14:38:42] <jessicah> so essentially non-free, as I understand it
[14:39:06] <jessicah> but as the saying goes, I'm not a lawyer... :p
[14:39:12] <xdizzaster> Umm, so what should I do
[14:39:34] <xdizzaster> it appears to be a small program that was written before I was born
[14:39:43] <jessicah> email author? I dunno
[14:39:54] <xdizzaster> for reference, it's this: https://github.com/HaikuArchives/BeOhms
[14:43:36] <xdizzaster> by searching google for the author's name, I find that he is either a character in the game Dying Light or an American drummer, and for some reason both seem off
[14:47:10] <korli> xdizzaster: http://testou.free.fr/www.beatjapan.org/mirror/www.be.com/beware/Utilities/BeOhms.html => Freeware
[14:47:27] <xdizzaster> lovely, thanks a lot
[14:48:58] <korli> bye
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[14:50:20] <dacianf> Can someone help me with this http://pastebin.com/ztXwJMFY ?
[14:52:49] <miqlas-H64> bye
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[15:01:35] <dacianf> mmu_man or @jessicah can you help me with this http://pastebin.com/ztXwJMFY?
[15:01:41] <dacianf> http://pastebin.com/ztXwJMFY
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[15:07:59] <mmu_man> why does it want usb headers?
[15:09:30] <mmu_man> ah usb kit...
[15:10:35] <mmu_man> that's from when it wasn't an official API
[15:10:42] <mmu_man> so it wanted to build its own
[15:10:54] <mmu_man> you can remove this part
[15:11:11] <mmu_man> and use -lusb
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[16:02:04] <mmu_man> dacianf: got it?
[16:06:36] <jessicah> argh, the frustration of spending something like 15 hours building a lego model, only to be hampered by two missing pieces
[16:07:01] <jessicah> and large ones too, so not like they should be hard to spot T_T
[16:08:27] <mmu_man> eh
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[16:26:18] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: humdinger * hrev50853 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a325242d7fc7+%5E5e1e245be8ac
[16:26:19] <HAIKU-irker458> a325242d7fc7: Fix CodyCam layout
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[16:37:33] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3228 of haiku-master-x86 is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86/builds/3228 blamelist: Humdinger <humdingerb at gmail dot com>
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[17:33:27] <dacianf> @jessicah are you here?
[17:33:40] <dacianf> or you @humdinger
[17:34:04] <humdinger> I'm here. what's the emergency?
[17:35:17] <dacianf> http://pastebin.com/ztXwJMFY
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[17:40:25] <dacianf> @humdinger do you know how to fix it? mmuman said something about -lusb and deleting usb kit but i don't know how to do this
[17:41:02] <dacianf> all i know or i think that a know is that this should be changed in makefile
[17:42:06] <jessicah> yes, modifying the makefile is required
[17:42:09] <jessicah> e.g. LIBS = -lbe -lmedia usb/USBKit.a
[17:42:19] <jessicah> mmu_man said to use -lusb
[17:42:31] <jessicah> so you'd remove usb/USBKit.a and replace with -lusb
[17:43:10] <jessicah> then remove all the other occurrences of USBKit.a
[17:44:59] <jessicah> dacianf: just chat in irc
[17:45:11] <dacianf> ok
[17:45:12] <jessicah> if others spot something, they can chime in
[17:45:17] <dacianf> ok
[17:45:18] <jessicah> in channel*
[17:45:45] <dacianf> ok
[17:45:53] <jessicah> see https://github.com/HaikuArchives/AMC/blob/master/amc/src/makefile#L23 & https://github.com/HaikuArchives/AMC/blob/master/amc/src/makefile#L28
[17:46:02] <jessicah> these both reference USBKit.a
[17:46:09] <dacianf> aha
[17:46:11] <jessicah> so you can remove the usb/USBKit.a part entirely
[17:46:37] <jessicah> and https://github.com/HaikuArchives/AMC/blob/master/amc/src/makefile#L4 is where you replace it with -lusb
[17:48:04] <dacianf> and there on lines 23 and 28
[17:48:30] <dacianf> should i change usb/usbkit into -lusb?
[17:48:36] <jessicah> no, just remove
[17:48:37] <humdinger> I'm very bad at this. But it fails down the line too, e.g. where there's #include "usb/USBKit.h"
[17:50:20] <dacianf> so i have to delete entire lines?
[17:52:06] <humdinger> I have no idea...
[17:52:23] <dacianf> :)
[17:52:34] <jessicah> hmm
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[17:53:13] <dacianf> @jessicah and also line 47 hase usb/usbkit
[17:53:14] <jessicah> I'm going to have to go to sleep
[17:53:23] <jessicah> then that needs to go too
[17:54:23] <jessicah> humdinger: maybe you can help with last parts
[17:54:24] <dacianf> do you mean to delete it ?
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[17:54:25] <jessicah> see https://github.com/haiku/haiku/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=busbroster
[17:54:30] <jessicah> yeah
[17:54:42] <jessicah> so needs to subclass BUSBRoster instead of USBRoster
[17:55:01] <jessicah> probably need -ldevice as well as, or instead of -lusb
[17:55:03] <dacianf> and jessicah
[17:55:18] <dacianf> there on line 47
[17:55:30] <dacianf> should i delete both 47 and 48?
[17:55:32] <jessicah> and can probably just change the include to #include <USBKit.h>
[17:55:37] <humdinger> jessicah: I'll try my mediocre best. good night!
[17:55:53] <jessicah> yes
[17:56:03] <dacianf> good night jessicah :)
[17:56:21] <jessicah> thanks :) goodnight
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[18:00:54] <dacianf> @humdinger can we do this?
[18:01:37] <humdinger> maybe...
[18:01:55] <humdinger> you got the makefile ready?
[18:02:05] <dacianf> what do you mean?
[18:02:11] <dacianf> i've deleted those lines
[18:02:25] <dacianf> http://collabedit.com/t8mje
[18:02:33] <dacianf> is a live pad
[18:02:42] <dacianf> with makefile
[18:03:43] <dacianf> that moment when we learn at school c++ for 3 years and when you take a look over a truly code you realised that everything was a lie :))
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[18:04:13] <humdinger> hehe
[18:04:32] <humdinger> I'm not sure deleting the complete lines 23 and 28 was OK.
[18:04:50] <humdinger> I put them back in. you can delete them later again, if that was wrong...
[18:04:57] <dacianf> ok
[18:05:52] <humdinger> so where does building crap out now?
[18:06:22] <humdinger> for me it's midi-keyb.h
[18:10:05] <dacianf> wait a bit
[18:11:27] <dacianf> should i let those lines on?
[18:12:38] <dacianf> if i delete only line 47 and 48 i says no rule make target uxb/usbkit.a
[18:13:34] <humdinger> ? that's line 47/48:
[18:13:36] <humdinger> c++ $^ $(LIBS) -o amc
[18:13:37] <humdinger> set_attr amc
[18:13:53] <dacianf> no
[18:14:03] <humdinger> it's at http://collabedit.com/t8mje
[18:15:21] <dacianf> yep
[18:15:25] <humdinger> q: what does Haiku use instead of #include <sys/dir.h> ?
[18:16:39] <dacianf> idk
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[18:16:54] <humdinger> that was more to the channel at large. :)
[18:17:03] <humdinger> how's your make going now?
[18:17:21] <humdinger> you can "cd work-1.14.0/sources/AMC-f7deda301aafe308c08127e9ef1148cb1db58399/amc/src"
[18:17:30] <dacianf> i know
[18:17:34] <humdinger> then the "make" is faster than doing it with hp
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[18:17:59] <humdinger> I'm currently stuck with the ominous #include <sys/dir.h>
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[18:21:47] <algirdo> Hallo!
[18:21:48] * humdinger is idle: dinner
[18:22:08] <algirdo> what happened with https://discuss.haiku-os.org/?
[18:22:32] <Skipp_OSX> algirdo, looks like it is down
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[18:22:54] <Skipp_OSX> algirdo, it was active earlier, must have happened recently, be patient
[18:23:09] <algirdo> linux hackers?
[18:23:15] <algirdo> or windows?
[18:23:22] <algirdo> :)
[18:24:02] <lezsakdomi> Did you call me? :) (I WANT to be one :) )
[18:25:13] <algirdo> Lietuvių čia yra?
[18:25:51] <lezsakdomi> Sorry, I'm speaking just english, hungarian and german
[18:26:09] <lezsakdomi> And C++, bash, etc of course :)
[18:26:19] <lezsakdomi> *only
[18:26:22] <algirdo> That is good
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[18:43:51] <algirdo> Viso labo!
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[18:59:47] <dacianf> PulkoMandy can you help me with this http://pastebin.com/ztXwJMFY
[18:59:49] <dacianf> ?
[19:00:16] * humdinger has returned
[19:00:49] <humdinger> dacianf: I got fairly far.
[19:01:17] <humdinger> the current error is : cannot find -lusb
[19:01:28] <humdinger> which is puzzling...
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[19:02:47] <humdinger> dacianf: you're still pointing to the old error output before you changed the makefile
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[19:05:14] <Skipp_OSX> humdinger, what has changed in net pulse?
[19:05:45] <humdinger> nothing that I know of. just built for 64bit
[19:06:47] <humdinger> any ideas why make doesn't want to link with "-lusb"?
[19:06:50] <Skipp_OSX> looks like it has a vector icon now though
[19:07:16] <humdinger> I think that was a year old change.
[19:08:04] <PulkoMandy> humdinger: /bin/sh: line 0: cd: usb: No such file or directory
[19:08:08] <PulkoMandy> looks curious
[19:08:18] <humdinger> it's an old output.
[19:08:27] <PulkoMandy> can we get an up to date one then?
[19:08:40] <humdinger> it's dacianf' baby.
[19:09:11] <humdinger> to learn, has the padawan
[19:09:25] <PulkoMandy> maybe try to link with -ldevice rather than -lusb, AFAIK the USB support is part of the Device Kit in Haiku
[19:09:58] <humdinger> aha!
[19:10:03] <humdinger> that was it apparently.
[19:10:05] <humdinger> thanks
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[19:33:58] <humdinger> wow, amc sure has one ugly GUI :)
[19:35:59] <dacianf> sorry guys
[19:36:03] <dacianf> i was afk
[19:36:11] <dacianf> @humdinger
[19:36:16] <dacianf> what have you done?
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[19:37:32] <humdinger> in the makefile you have to include "-ldevice" at the LIBS
[19:38:10] <dacianf> aha
[19:38:11] <humdinger> what's your next build error?
[19:38:44] <dacianf> it says make set_attr is up to date
[19:38:59] <humdinger> doesn't sound like an error...
[19:39:02] <dacianf> but make file is without those line
[19:39:08] <dacianf> 23 28 46 47
[19:39:23] <dacianf> http://collabedit.com/t8mje
[19:40:17] <humdinger> just remove the "usb/USBKit.a", not the whole lines
[19:41:29] <dacianf> aha
[19:41:30] <humdinger> besides 46/47. those you can remove
[19:43:53] <dacianf> makefile 60 recipe for target amc.o failed
[19:45:05] <humdinger> unrelated, but you have to remove -lusb
[19:45:50] <humdinger> maybe remove all .o files?
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[19:47:47] <dacianf> ok..
[19:48:02] <dacianf> do you mean all objs?
[19:48:10] <humdinger> yes
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[19:49:16] <lezsakdomi> Can somebody help me? I've downloaded and installed the newest DOWNLOADABLE nightly (hrev50849), wich won't boot normally. I think, I need to upgrade. But first I need to open any console. What is the shortscut for it?
[19:49:53] <humdinger> if the tRacker runs, OPT+ALT+T
[19:49:54] <lezsakdomi> ...upgrade to hrev50850
[19:50:27] <lezsakdomi> No :(
[19:50:44] <humdinger> you can enter the boot options and load an older state.
[19:52:01] <lezsakdomi> Oh, the WHOLE VIRTUALBOX come down after OPT+ALT+T (lol)
[19:52:26] <PulkoMandy> right click on desktop > add-ons > open terminal, then
[19:53:24] <lezsakdomi> Hmm, I dont know what happened, but it now booted successfully, after the lagg+reset :)
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[20:00:21] <lezsakdomi> After about 10 try +some reinstall i'm now sure:
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[20:00:31] <lezsakdomi> Cloning haikuports kills the net
[20:01:01] <lezsakdomi> Is there any workaround?
[20:01:27] <lezsakdomi> And is this bug known?
[20:02:43] <humdinger> lezsakdomi: have you checked your VB network adapter?
[20:04:26] <lezsakdomi> That's normal, as it should: NAT
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[20:05:29] <PulkoMandy> no, the other option
[20:05:37] <PulkoMandy> says PC-Net III or something
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[20:07:51] <lezsakdomi> Sorry for the delay
[20:08:02] <lezsakdomi> I think, the best is to attach a scrshot
[20:08:06] <lezsakdomi> http://imgur.com/a/P1HUg
[20:08:06] <Haiku_User> Is there any way to clone all my repositorys from git at once??
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[20:08:43] <PulkoMandy> lezsakdomi: here it is PCnet-FAST III
[20:08:54] <PulkoMandy> you need to shutdown the VM to change it I think
[20:09:06] <lezsakdomi> Oookay, I try
[20:10:09] <lezsakdomi> Haiku_User: Maybe to fetch a list via http+curl and process the response and clone the repos "manually with bash"
[20:10:21] <lezsakdomi> So i mean >>use for<<
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[20:11:29] <Paradoxon> lezsakdomi thanks..
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[20:16:15] <lezsakdomi> PulkoMandy: That worked, thanks!
[20:17:22] <humdinger> PulkoMandy: can youo help us out: http://collabedit.com/t8mje
[20:17:32] <humdinger> error output at line 65.
[20:18:51] <PulkoMandy> well you don't have a main function
[20:19:08] <PulkoMandy> either one file is missing, or this is not an app but an add-on or library
[20:19:29] <humdinger> dacianf: have you made otherchanges besides the in the makefile?
[20:19:46] <dacianf> no
[20:20:03] <humdinger> check with "git diff"
[20:20:15] <humdinger> for me it is building OK.
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[20:20:30] <humdinger> until it comes to "set_attr amc"
[20:23:08] <dacianf> no output for git diff
[20:23:33] <humdinger> are you in /work-1.14.0/sources/AMC-f7deda301aafe308c08127e9ef1148cb1db58399/amc/src ?
[20:23:43] <humdinger> at least you makefile changes should be there...
[20:26:45] <dacianf> no
[20:27:13] <humdinger> the mind boggles...
[20:27:45] <humdinger> yu are in work-1.14.0/sources/AMC-f7deda301aafe308c08127e9ef1148cb1db58399/amc/src , you made changes to the makefile, nd git diff doesn't show any changes?
[20:28:17] <dacianf> it says now
[20:29:05] <dacianf> i put the output after line 74
[20:29:30] <humdinger> looks like you removed the whole OBJ block.
[20:29:44] <humdinger> when I said remove the .o files, I meant the object files.
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[20:33:42] <dacianf> can you give me your makefile?
[20:34:20] <humdinger> pasted at the top
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[20:40:53] <miqlas-H64> Hi
[20:40:59] <dacianf> hi
[20:41:03] <lezsakdomi> hi
[20:41:21] <miqlas-H64> Mindenki itt van? Indulhatunk? johnny_b?
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[20:41:48] <lezsakdomi> :D
[20:41:51] <humdinger> dacianf: OK, I have to go. look into our collabedit.
[20:41:59] * humdinger waves
[20:41:59] <dacianf> ok
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[20:47:37] <dacianf> PulkoMandy
[20:47:50] <dacianf> i have this make file http://pastebin.com/krruGZb7
[20:48:05] <dacianf> and i get missing separator on line 44
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[20:53:14] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/3350d6eb0eb4...6ad1e2714730
[20:53:15] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] xdizzaster 6ad1e27 - beohms: added recipe (GCI 2016) (#1030)
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[21:02:49] <HaikuUser2> hello.. quite a lot of people here.. only no-one talking?
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[21:03:11] <geist> well, not exactly int he minute since you joined
[21:03:22] <TjardE> haha lol
[21:03:23] <prOSy_n8Ly> brb
[21:03:25] <waddlesplash> and it is typically quiet-ish in here anyways
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[21:03:55] <dacianf> miqlas-H64 are you on?
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[21:04:06] <TjardE> just installed Haiku on VMware ESXi to see what it's about.... So thats my status... sorry for the ignorance :)
[21:04:32] <kallisti5> algirdo: Incase you look at the IRC logs. I applied some package updates and they blew away the allow 80/443 firewall rules. Resolved :-)
[21:05:09] <kallisti5> I just created a new announcements category, and posted about an planned outage tomorrow
[21:05:23] <kallisti5> waddlesplash: i'll likely use the announcements category for the main page of hugo?
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[21:05:32] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: ???
[21:05:34] <kallisti5> only admins + staff + moderators can post into it
[21:05:40] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: main page of hugo? what
[21:05:47] <waddlesplash> I don't know what you're talking about
[21:06:07] <waddlesplash> you mean comments on Discourse about topics on frontpage of Hugo?
[21:06:10] <miqlas-H64> dacianf: yes
[21:06:30] <kallisti5> waddlesplash: ah.. right. that's such a weird workflow
[21:06:47] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: you realize the frontpage of hugo is just an amalgamator right
[21:06:56] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: all the links on the frontpage go to the respective sections
[21:07:06] <kallisti5> yeah yeah. I got it
[21:07:07] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: 100% of new content now will show up on frontpage.
[21:10:45] <kallisti5> waddlesplash: so you're planning on news and blog-o-sphere and latest articles to come from the git repo?
[21:10:52] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: yep
[21:11:15] <kallisti5> It might be nice to roll news from the forum.. that's what I was getting at. Make it a bit simpler to quickly make announcements, etc
[21:11:38] <kallisti5> rss feed (I think hugo supports that?)
[21:11:43] <waddlesplash> yes, we have that
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[21:11:49] <kallisti5> anyway, just an idea
[21:11:52] <waddlesplash> https://haiku.netlify.com/index.xml
[21:12:09] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: nah, lots of people read the RSS, I think keeping major annoucements on the hugo site is better
[21:12:17] <miqlas-H64> humdinger, where are you, when we needs you?! we got a GUI thing! This is your responsibility!!!!
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[21:17:32] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/6ad1e2714730...801fbb8a4280
[21:17:34] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys 801fbb8 - kBuild: add WIP recipe for version 0.1.5
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[21:22:03] <ryoshu> hi
[21:22:29] <ryoshu> can we build gtk applications for haiku and reuse native haiku toolkit?
[21:22:38] <ryoshu> like the same clipboard, styles
[21:23:09] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: no, we don't have a GTK port
[21:23:26] <ryoshu> how about qt?
[21:23:30] <waddlesplash> yes, we have that
[21:23:36] <waddlesplash> that's the only major toolkit we do have a port of
[21:23:38] <ryoshu> is clipboard and stuff shared?
[21:23:49] <waddlesplash> clipboard, yes; styling, no
[21:23:55] <waddlesplash> Qt5 only has QFusionStyle presently
[21:24:12] <ryoshu> is drag-and-drop and things shared
[21:24:20] <waddlesplash> don't think so
[21:24:31] <ryoshu> I'm suck of X and incompatibility between applications
[21:24:34] <ryoshu> sick
[21:24:46] <waddlesplash> well, most apps presently are native
[21:24:55] <waddlesplash> with the exception of games/emulators (SDL port)
[21:25:06] <waddlesplash> the web browser for instance is a native WebKit port
[21:25:16] <ryoshu> how well is the native toolkit, is it fully standalone, complete?
[21:25:22] <ryoshu> for a gui designer
[21:25:32] <ryoshu> or gui application developer
[21:25:46] <waddlesplash> no, we don't have a GUI designer
[21:26:00] <waddlesplash> the syntax for layouted UI creation is very easy to use though
[21:26:01] <ryoshu> I like the idea about multimedia, networking, os kits
[21:26:37] <ryoshu> but I'm thinking whether it's sufficient to write non-trivial applications
[21:27:06] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: depends on what you want to write. The whole builtin OS suite (file manager, launcher, etc.) is all written on top of it
[21:27:16] <waddlesplash> email client, etc.
[21:27:30] <dacianf> @waddlesplash i have to make a recipe for amc
[21:27:33] <waddlesplash> and there are lots of third-party apps too - PDF viewer, the like
[21:27:38] <dacianf> and make file is broken
[21:27:38] <ryoshu> like all applications available in gnome or kde, but I don't care for styles
[21:27:49] <waddlesplash> dacianf: link?
[21:28:01] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: well, try a nightly build and see what you think
[21:28:24] <ryoshu> are there plans to make qt more integrated with haiku styles?
[21:28:24] <dacianf> http://pastebin.com/krruGZb7 mine and original https://github.com/HaikuArchives/AMC/blob/master/amc/src/makefile
[21:28:42] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: not presently; we've got other things to work on. You can submit patches of course.
[21:28:44] <ryoshu> and share more actions like drag-an-drop
[21:29:07] <waddlesplash> I don't think anyone has plans to work on the Qt port much honestly
[21:29:22] <waddlesplash> dacianf: feel free to submit PR
[21:29:38] <ryoshu> waddlesplash: lack of manpower for qt?
[21:29:45] <dacianf> for recipe or makefile?
[21:29:52] <waddlesplash> dacianf: both, no?
[21:29:59] <dacianf> ok
[21:30:04] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: Yes, we're more focused on the OS itself
[21:30:12] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: We much prefer native software to ports, honestly.
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[21:31:13] <ryoshu> waddlesplash: I think native integration with existing qt+gtk might be huge plus, I fully understand that native is better, but it's not always possible to rewrite applications.. just curious are there hybrid applications for haiku and other toolkit?
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[21:31:30] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: Not really that I'm aware, no.
[21:32:02] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: We already have lots of ported Qt software that works "okay", that's good enough for us
[21:32:03] <ryoshu> is there tk support?
[21:32:10] <waddlesplash> nope
[21:32:30] <waddlesplash> I think there is a wip FLTK port
[21:32:33] <waddlesplash> but that's about it
[21:33:02] <ryoshu> I will give it a try, thanks
[21:33:23] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: nightly link in channel topic. :)
[21:33:56] <ryoshu> ah, is there D-Bus replacement? I think there was something to message applications
[21:34:21] <dacianf> @waddlesplash how i build a patch ? hp name (-what)
[21:34:30] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: BMessages, yes; you can send messages to applications or threads
[21:34:56] <ryoshu> how about grants for users, is there admin-user model?
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[21:35:03] <waddlesplash> dacianf: oh, I don't remember how to do it with haikuporter, I just did it with git directly
[21:35:16] <ryoshu> D-Bus integrates polkit thing to allow a user to perform some privileged applications
[21:35:19] <dacianf> and after git commit?
[21:35:29] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: the kernel is multiuser, so stuff like ssh can use that, but GUI does not have it yet
[21:35:35] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: such as?
[21:35:48] <waddlesplash> ryoshu: We do plan to implement a multiuser GUI after R1 is out
[21:35:51] <ryoshu> waddlesplash: like to setup in a network plugin
[21:36:17] <waddlesplash> we don't have admin escalation yet, no
[21:36:23] <waddlesplash> everything runs as uid 0
[21:36:30] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: barrett * hrev50854 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=3ef4b2008642+%5Ea325242d7fc7
[21:36:31] <ryoshu> I see
[21:36:31] <HAIKU-irker458> 3ef4b2008642: Make BMediaRecorder public
[21:36:56] <waddlesplash> Barrett: nice.
[21:37:56] <kallisti5> waddlesplash: when hugo is in server mode, do I have to stop and restart the server every time I make a change to test it?
[21:38:09] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: no, it should auto rebuild?
[21:38:15] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: unless you are on super ancient version
[21:38:25] <kallisti5> k
[21:38:25] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: rebuilds take like 80sec though
[21:38:44] <Barrett> what needs to be done, have to be done
[21:38:55] <kallisti5> waddlesplash: i noticed :P
[21:39:07] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: (they previously took like 3-4sec, but then I added a giant whopping hack to get breadcrumbs, and so that happened)
[21:39:18] <kallisti5> ah.
[21:39:29] <kallisti5> long-term it isn't that big of an issue
[21:39:33] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: https://github.com/haiku/website/commit/32a71ee9b2485cbcb8240741b8fa0283f1664f2f
[21:39:34] <kallisti5> just a pita when working on it ;P
[21:39:34] <waddlesplash> right.
[21:41:12] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: working on discourse integration?
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[21:47:22] <dacianf> @waddlesplash i've made the push of files on git and when i go on compare section for pr it shows me 2 commits one from this recipe and one from a recipe that i've finished yesterday
[21:47:32] <waddlesplash> make new branch?
[21:47:44] <dacianf> i'm on another brach...
[21:47:46] <dacianf> branch
[21:48:14] <waddlesplash> idk
[21:48:29] <waddlesplash> "git reset" then recommit?
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[21:55:07] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3347 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build &lt;repository&gt;Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/3347 blamelist: Dario Casalinuovo <b.vitruvio at gmail dot com>
[21:58:10] <dacianf> @waddlesplash i've made that pr https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/1032
[21:58:41] <waddlesplash> dacianf: so the build still fails?
[21:58:45] <waddlesplash> can you try to fix it?
[21:59:00] <dacianf> i'm trying for like 5 hours
[21:59:43] <dacianf> and here guys told me that this is over my level...
[22:00:17] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3363 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build &lt;repository&gt;Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/3363 blamelist: Dario Casalinuovo <b.vitruvio at gmail dot com>
[22:01:31] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3322 of haiku-master-x86_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build &lt;repository&gt;Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_hybrid/builds/3322 blamelist: Dario Casalinuovo <b.vitruvio at gmail dot com>
[22:02:19] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3287 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build &lt;repository&gt;Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/3287 blamelist: Dario Casalinuovo <b.vitruvio at gmail dot com>
[22:06:23] <kallisti5> waddlesplash: pushed a few commits I had in the backlog
[22:06:28] <kallisti5> PR opened
[22:07:16] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+5/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/5a26b0221521...c4c03453b028
[22:07:17] <Not-4c8d> [haiku/website] kallisti5 c4c0345 - Style cleanups (#8)
[22:07:25] <waddlesplash> drat, I just squash merged that
[22:07:27] <waddlesplash> sorry
[22:07:31] <kallisti5> it's fine.
[22:07:44] <kallisti5> So... the latest version of hugo runs a *lot* faster
[22:07:58] <waddlesplash> oh, incremental rebuilds, right
[22:08:02] <waddlesplash> I should get that
[22:08:08] <kallisti5> 80 seconds on my ubuntu provided version 0.16
[22:08:15] <kallisti5> 0.18.1 1 second
[22:08:21] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3227 of haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build &lt;repository&gt;Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/3227 blamelist: Dario Casalinuovo <b.vitruvio at gmail dot com>
[22:08:36] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: sounds like incremental rebuilds to me
[22:08:45] <waddlesplash> unless they broke my breadcrumbs hack
[22:08:59] <kallisti5> still seem to work here
[22:09:18] <waddlesplash> ok, good
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[22:12:26] <kallisti5> HA
[22:12:42] <kallisti5> I added my code to add discuss comments
[22:12:47] <kallisti5> hugo paniced and died
[22:13:16] <waddlesplash> error message?
[22:14:25] <kallisti5> some internal panic. Restarted web server and seems to be working again
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[22:15:26] <Skipp_OSX> wasn't me! :)
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[22:20:49] <kallisti5> waddlesplash: ... wow.. not sure what you did
[22:20:59] <kallisti5> Having to toss my repo and reclone + apply
[22:21:09] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: I squash-merged?
[22:21:27] <kallisti5> git wants to do a 3-way merge
[22:21:57] <Skipp_OSX> I'm not into 3-ways
[22:22:10] <kallisti5> ;-)
[22:22:15] * Skipp_OSX I'll see myself out
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[22:22:19] <kallisti5> anyway, just re-cloning and replaying commits
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[22:24:40] <kallisti5> ack!
[22:24:44] <kallisti5> waddlesplash: don't accept that one
[22:24:56] <waddlesplash> I won't
[22:25:26] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: oic
[22:25:27] <waddlesplash> lol
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[22:25:42] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: I'd rather not accept this till you import old comments
[22:25:46] <waddlesplash> or do you have to do this first?
[22:26:13] <kallisti5> waddlesplash: I have to do it first
[22:26:17] <waddlesplash> k
[22:26:22] <kallisti5> we need to figure out how new ones will look
[22:26:28] <kallisti5> then I can compare while I import
[22:26:38] <waddlesplash> k
[22:28:02] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: didn't I add a content-security-policy
[22:28:02] <waddlesplash> ...
[22:28:09] <waddlesplash> no, I didn't, lol
[22:28:17] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: also, <div>? can't we do iframe?
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[22:28:55] * kallisti5 used the recommendations from Hugo
[22:28:59] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: why does that have to be a dynamic script
[22:29:05] <waddlesplash> that looks like a giant hack
[22:29:13] <waddlesplash> why can't you just do <script src=""> like a normal person
[22:29:15] <kallisti5> see above comment :P
[22:29:19] <waddlesplash> .............................
[22:29:39] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: screw the recommendations, let's try it our way and see if it blows up in our face >:D
[22:29:43] <kallisti5> https://discuss.gohugo.io/t/hugo-plugin-that-lets-you-use-discourse-as-the-community-engine-for-a-hugo-blog/134
[22:29:47] <kallisti5> :-)
[22:29:51] <kallisti5> brb.. meeting
[22:29:59] <waddlesplash> ..
[22:30:05] <waddlesplash> ok let's try some stuffs
[22:31:10] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: 403 Forbidden
[22:31:15] <waddlesplash> kallisti5: from Discourse
[22:31:26] * waddlesplash checks Discourse admin panels
[22:38:03] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: barrett * hrev50855 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=3dbb4ff62d75+%5E3ef4b2008642
[22:38:04] <HAIKU-irker458> 3dbb4ff62d75: Fix SoundRecorder build
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[22:46:02] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/801fbb8a4280...5ef60692c291
[22:46:03] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] xdizzaster 5ef6069 - icoutils: added recipe (#1020)
[22:47:45] <dacianf> @waddlesplash how can i add this in makefile headers/os/device/USBKit.h ?
[22:47:58] <waddlesplash> dacianf: uh, that's a system header?
[22:48:04] <waddlesplash> you need to fix the app's include paths
[22:48:14] <waddlesplash> or just it's source code to use that header directly
[22:48:25] <dacianf> location of usbkit
[22:49:00] <dacianf> fbrosson said that there is location of usbkit in haiku
[22:49:49] <waddlesplash> yes, it's a system header?
[22:52:37] <dacianf> yep
[22:53:29] <waddlesplash> well, then use that
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[23:06:49] <miqlas-H64> Hi PulkoMandy! Did you got some time for me? I got a problem with rusage again: http://termbin.com/46d4 Any idea, how can i fix this?
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[23:07:08] <miqlas-H64> #undef'ing getrusage in config.h doesn't helps.
[23:07:19] <ValeT> hello
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[23:09:04] <dacianf> korli are you on?
[23:09:26] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: barrett * hrev50856 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e6004b772971+%5E3dbb4ff62d75
[23:09:27] <HAIKU-irker458> e7aa210bca00: MediaClient: IsRunning() status is set at handle time
[23:09:28] <HAIKU-irker458> e6004b772971: MediaClient: Move WIP min/max functions into BMediaConnection
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[23:23:06] <HAIKU-irker458> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev50857 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4d83a710f5cd+%5Ee6004b772971
[23:23:07] <HAIKU-irker458> 7cfdd9242c0f: h2generic.cpp: fix use after free.
[23:23:08] <HAIKU-irker458> 4d83a710f5cd: makefile-engine: Fix catkey generation.
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[23:31:39] <miqlas-H64> Bye Guys!
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[23:46:41] <mmu_man> not sure about the clipboard but I think it should work
[23:46:46] <mmu_man> er
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[23:47:04] <mmu_man> note to self: don't leave irssi scrolled up in the backlog
[23:47:12] <mmu_man> you'll end up answering an old question
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[23:51:36] <owenca> hello everyone
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[23:52:36] <owenca> any LayoutBuilder expert here?
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