January 8, 2017 
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January 8, 2017 [00:00:46] <scottmc> Termi1878 did it not should up near the end of the output?[00:00:52] <Perelandra> I'm working on the notification_server archiving so you can review old ones. It looks like there was also a plan to have application specific settings to allow/disallow notifications but I haven't thought about that at all yet.[00:01:23] <waddlesplash> yeah, there was, I think[00:01:29] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Quit: 15 minutes with you / oh, I wouldn't say no)[00:01:44] <waddlesplash> notification_server work mostly stopped when the guy who wrote it left Haiku to go make his own linux distro...[00:02:12] <Perelandra> It was a good start...[00:03:05] <waddlesplash> it is, yeah[00:03:09] <waddlesplash> like so much other stuff in Haiku[00:03:14] <waddlesplash> like the bluetooth kit for instance[00:03:32] * waddlesplash should bite the bullet and install Haiku on bare metal and work on that someday[00:04:29] <Termi1878> @scottmc There isn't packager name.[00:04:37] <Duggan> waddlesplash, yes you should :P[00:04:42] <Duggan> that's the only way I work[00:04:49] <Termi1878> in this file i mean[00:07:18] <scottmc> Termi1878 did you put the packager name in the haikuports.conf file?[00:07:23] <Perelandra> You're running it virtual? Ouch, I used to but I spent a very little cash to get a Core2 quad that works very well. So much better![00:08:22] <Termi1878> @scottmc Yes, i did. "PACKAGER="Krystian <Krystian at gci dot test>""[00:09:39] <jessicah> I need to figure out why UEFI loader doesn't work on my desktop...[00:09:50] <scottmc> Termi1878 click on your desktop, then press Alt-f this will bring up finder, then search for "which" find the .hpkg file in that list and right click to open it with expander[00:09:51] <Duggan> what's the point of running an OS in a VM when you can run it native unless you're a sysadmin?[00:10:11] <Duggan> jessicah what exactly do you mean by "UEFI loader"?[00:10:18] <jessicah> haiku_loader.efi[00:11:01] <Duggan> ah ok[00:11:16] <Duggan> jessicah how are you trying to load it?[00:11:46] <jessicah> straight from firmware boot menu[00:11:47] <scottmc> Termi1878 then click the show contents box in expander and it should show the package info[00:11:54] <scottmc> take a screenshot[00:12:43] <Duggan> jessicah I don't do that on my laptop... I have it on the stick and I set my boot order up to boot from stick first... by default the haiku boot menu comes up[00:13:36] <jessicah> well, it doesn't even seem to get to loading the kernel[00:13:42] <jessicah> i.e. atom doesn't light up[00:14:11] <jessicah> need to break out my usb serial cables :)[00:14:23] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:14:24] <Duggan> mine can't find a boot record so I have to pick one... maybe yours "does" but it's the wrong one and isn't bootable?[00:14:32] <Duggan> also, tried onscreen debug output?[00:15:06] <jessicah> no, I get dropped into the boot menu[00:15:06] <Duggan> "usb serial".... well, which is it? :P[00:16:46] *** Sue <Sue!~sue@unaffiliated/sue> has joined #haiku[00:17:47] <scottmc> Termi1878 did yiu find it?[00:18:13] <jessicah> :p[00:21:36] <Termi1878> @scottmc Yes, i probably find it, but there isn't any contents when I click that[00:22:07] <scottmc> Termi1878 did you try to open it using Expander?[00:23:14] *** ive <ive!~ive@80.234.163.55> has joined #haiku[00:24:37] <Termi1878> yup[00:25:22] <Termi1878> There were two files named "which" and i opened both of them with expander and nothing was there[00:25:24] <Duggan> jessicah well, apparently, -j8 is faster than -j16 on this machine :P[00:25:48] <Termi1878> What they mean with "Provide a copy of the build log (haikuporter output to terminal) and/or a screenshot of the package (it is created in the packages/ folder in your haikuports directory) so we can check you completed the work."?[00:25:50] <Duggan> modifying the script to include -j12 and -j4 so I can optimize my thread count :P[00:27:32] <scottmc> Termi1878 the build.txt file is the first part of this, it shows the buildlog, so attach that to the task. For the second part we need to find the packages folder, in that folder will be the which .hpkg package haikuporter built[00:27:50] *** ive <ive!~ive@80.234.163.55> has left #haiku ("Leaving")[00:28:14] <scottmc> i think it'd be in /boot/home/haikuports/packages if your haikuports tree is in home[00:29:13] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte)[00:29:17] <scottmc> mine is called which-2.21-3-x86_gcc2.hpkg[00:30:21] <Termi1878> mine too[00:30:47] <Termi1878> soo i should attach to the task these two files?[00:31:18] <scottmc> we want to open that file with expander, and show the contents[00:32:03] <scottmc> open "Home" on your desktop, then browse to haikuports/packages, then right click on that file and chose to "open with expander" hopefully it's an option[00:32:41] <scottmc> then once expander is open, check the box for "show contents"[00:33:07] <Termi1878> i opened that file with expander, clicked "show contents" and there is packager name etc[00:33:30] <Termi1878> so i should do the screen and attach this with build.txt?[00:33:43] <scottmc> you might need to drag the bottom right corner of the window to make it all visable. then take a screenshot by pressing pnrtscreen button on keyboard[00:33:50] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.71.224.12.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[00:33:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[00:33:56] <scottmc> yup, submit both.[00:34:39] <scottmc> perhaps try "hp hexvexed" and once it builds that goto the packages folder again and doubleclick it[00:35:23] <scottmc> that should ask to install it, it will then show up on your applications menu and you can then play the game.[00:36:21] <Termi1878> well i submitted for review, but i will find it out. Thank you @scottmc and everyone who tried to help me![00:37:12] <scottmc> Termi1878 glad to help[00:38:09] <Vidrep> You'll get the hang of it[00:38:24] <scottmc> Termi1878 is that two or three tasks completed for you now?[00:38:31] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-185-017.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[00:38:38] <Termi1878> three[00:38:46] <Termi1878> That's my third task[00:38:52] <scottmc> awesome![00:39:50] <Termi1878> Yeah![00:39:55] <scottmc> we have many tasks for writing or fixing recipes if you want to try any of them, we also have a complete of tasks which help students learn how to program, search for "book 1" to find the first one.[00:40:09] <scottmc> couple not complete...[00:42:28] <Termi1878> Yes! I will find that! That task was great and pretty hard of course![00:42:54] <Termi1878> Will be Code-In with Google at 2017/2018?[00:44:11] <scottmc> probably with happen again next year, yes.[00:45:01] <Termi1878> Yay! Because i've joined several days ago and i'm not happy with that[00:45:13] <scottmc> and these tasks you are working on should give you a head start on next year should to do it again. Many of our students do Google Code-In for more than one year.[00:45:13] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@ip68-102-27-241.ks.ok.cox.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:46:08] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:46:31] <Termi1878> Yeah! But 2017/2018 will be my second and last year, because I will be 18 in 2018[00:46:33] <Duggan> your participation is not limited to GCI :)[00:47:11] <Duggan> you're welcome here any time[00:47:20] <Termi1878> Yeah, I love it now! @duggan[00:47:26] <Termi1878> Of course, I will[00:47:37] <Duggan> :)[00:48:20] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.71.224.12.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[01:03:56] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[01:05:54] *** jogplus <jogplus!4c5980b9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.89.128.185> has joined #haiku[01:06:06] <jogplus> hello! I attempting to complete the Compile Haiku task and am having trouble. I am running haiku in a VM, downloaded a git clone, and have edited the credits.h file of the git clone, but now I am not sure how to proceed. Any help would be greatly appreciated![01:07:36] <scottmc> jogplus, when you set up your VM did you make sure to give it the minimum recommend settings that are listed on this task? if not you might want to increase them before starting to build, otherwise it might crash during the build[01:15:19] *** Termi1878 <Termi1878!5944ecbb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.68.236.187> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:20:13] <jogplus> yes I gave it 3gb of ram and 16gb of hdd space[01:20:35] <scottmc> jogplus, ok cool. so what step are you stuck on?[01:21:28] <scottmc> jogplus, have you run ./configure yet?[01:22:06] <jogplus> well it says no such file or directory so I have a feeling I must be doing something wrong[01:22:51] <scottmc> try cd haiku, then ./configure[01:23:34] <scottmc> and since you are building Haiku on Haiku the build tools are already there, so you can skip building the build tools step[01:29:11] <scottmc> jogplus did configure work that time?[01:30:46] <jogplus> well i realized that i downloaded the build tools git clone and not the haiku one, but everytime i follow the command "git clone https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku" it gives me an error[01:31:44] <scottmc> what's the error say?[01:32:38] <jogplus> couldn't resolve host git.haiku-os.org[01:35:10] <scottmc> hmm. try "ping google.com" might be your VM's network? or are you on irc in haiku?[01:36:54] <scottmc> to stop the ping press ctrl-c[01:38:51] <jogplus> hmmm I think there might be something wrong since I am getting unknown host... However it says I am connected to the internet through ethernet[01:40:07] <jogplus> let me restart it[01:41:15] <jogplus> well that fixed it haha[01:43:31] <Duggan> jogplus, generally you run configure from within your generated directory[01:43:45] <scottmc> on the virtualing haiku guidge page, there is a link to troubleshooting network issues in VMs. Seems the default settings don't always work, and you might have to adjust a setting or two to get it working.[01:43:54] <Duggan> say I'm in my haiku directory, I would cd into my generated directory, then ../configure ...[01:45:20] <scottmc> Duggan, first jogplus needs to clone the haiku repo ;)[01:45:29] <Duggan> scottmc oh I thought he said he already did[01:46:20] * jessicah sighs heavily[01:46:35] <jogplus> yeah sorry for the confusion, I cloned the buildtools repo instead and now I am cloning the haiku repo[01:46:45] <Duggan> what's up, jessicah?[01:46:55] <Duggan> jogplus ah ok, I guess I misread[01:47:10] <Duggan> glanced over the backlog, didn't read it real thoroughly[01:48:05] <jessicah> can't get haiku_loader.efi working on my machine[01:48:10] <Duggan> oh :([01:48:17] <Duggan> well if anybody can fix it, it's you :D[01:48:42] <Duggan> did you get debug output?[01:49:06] <jessicah> nothing useful[01:49:13] <Duggan> oh :([01:49:28] <jessicah> it seems to die somewhere at or after ExitBootServices(), which means no more debug output[01:49:48] <Duggan> tried onscreen debug info?[01:52:22] <jessicah> yep[01:52:49] <Duggan> I get all the debug info in the world when that's on :/[01:53:49] *** AndrewZ <AndrewZ!4a4b0cb6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.75.12.182> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:56:17] *** Incisor_Marks <Incisor_Marks!~Primed@83.143.240.15> has joined #haiku[02:01:14] <scottmc> jogplus, once you have the haiku repo cloned, edit the file as requested in the task, then run ./configure in the haiku directory, you can then run "jam". It will likely take 30minutes or more, maybe as much as 2 hours, depending on your machine. Just monitor it and see if it stops with any error and if so let us what and we can debug it here.[02:05:12] <jogplus> alright thank you so much for the help![02:05:45] <jessicah> Duggan: well, it's still in the loader itself at this point, rather than transitioned to kernel[02:06:00] *** Perelandra <Perelandra!~Perelandr@h69-130-75-184.nansme.broadband.dynamic.tds.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[02:07:14] <_Dario> recently, there was changed the version numbering in the libpng libs?[02:07:40] <_Dario> something like 16.18.0 to 1.6.18.0 or like that?[02:08:13] <jessicah> yes[02:08:31] *** wesbl <wesbl!4f3380c4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.51.128.196> has joined #haiku[02:08:56] <_Dario> thanks jessicah![02:09:08] <_Dario> probably, some packages must be rebuild, I guess[02:13:17] <Duggan> jessicah oh ok[02:13:57] <Duggan> I didn't know it actually had executable code, I thought it was just some data to make the microsoft proprietary efi think it's a valid OS :P[02:14:01] *** fujisan <fujisan!~fujisan@unaffiliated/fujisan> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[02:14:43] <jessicah> wat[02:14:54] <jessicah> haiku_loader is like a mini kernel :p[02:15:04] <Duggan> didn't know that :P[02:15:43] <FlyingJester> Most bootloaders are a bit like a mini OS.[02:24:03] <Duggan> FlyingJester I'm well aware of that, what I was not aware of, however, is that the efi file = efi loader = bootloader[02:28:40] <Duggan> so my benchmark showed that -j4 actually ran 15 minutes faster than -j8, -j12, and -j16[02:29:04] <Duggan> now trying -j2, -j4, -j6, and -j8[02:31:08] <FlyingJester> Usually the best value is slightly more than the number of actual cores you have.[02:31:17] <Duggan> I have 8[02:47:55] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[02:48:30] <jessicah> okay, got a debug method that works[02:48:40] <jessicah> drawing coloured squares to framebuffer...[02:50:12] <Duggan> lol nice :)[02:50:16] <Duggan> whatever works :D[02:50:34] <Duggan> I need more macros :'([02:50:54] <Duggan> too many productions in this damned parser... gotta find a way to do this in a somewhat more automated fashion...[02:53:05] *** Incisor_Marks <Incisor_Marks!~Primed@83.143.240.15> has quit IRC (Quit: Incisor_Marks)[02:58:00] *** Baggage_ <Baggage_!~Primed@83.143.240.15> has joined #haiku[03:00:47] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[03:09:32] *** CodeforEvolution <CodeforEvolution!a2c720e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.162.199.32.224> has joined #haiku[03:16:42] *** Malmis <Malmis!malmis@h-190-139.a486.priv.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:18:11] *** jessicah` <jessicah`!~jessicat@unaffiliated/jessicah> has joined #haiku[03:18:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jessicah`[03:18:29] <Duggan> get it booted, jessicah`?[03:18:38] <jessicah`> hmm, well, I can boot if I don't call UEFI's SetVirtualAddressMap[03:18:55] <jessicah`> since we don't even support UEFI runtime services, that might be okay...[03:19:10] <Duggan> checked regression?[03:19:19] <jessicah`> hmm?[03:19:43] <Duggan> tried booting on whatever other system you have to make sure it still worked there? or was this all just due to some change you made that broke something that already worked?[03:20:00] <jessicah> no, it hasn't ever worked on my desktop[03:20:04] <jessicah> seems that is the culprit[03:20:09] <jessicah> but yes, I need to test elsewhere[03:20:13] <jessicah> to see if it breaks[03:20:14] <Duggan> does it still work wherever else you were booting?[03:20:18] <Duggan> ok :)[03:22:17] <jessicah`> works in qemu[03:22:42] <jessicah`> need to test on my airbook next...[03:22:52] <Duggan> get to it![03:22:56] * Duggan cracks the whip[03:25:29] <jessicah`> tea break :p[03:25:33] <Duggan> :P[03:25:54] <jessicah`> I'll probably upload a couple disk images for people to test with once I'm done with this[03:25:57] <Duggan> a bit late for tea isn't it? I thought that was lunch :P[03:26:04] <jessicah`> one with and one without the SetVirtualAddressMap() call[03:26:21] <jessicah`> and get people to test both and report their findings[03:26:38] <jessicah`> cup of tea break[03:26:39] <Duggan> any way you can keep a precompiled efi file available somewhere so people don't have to bother building it themselves?[03:26:47] <jessicah`> yes, I'll do that too[03:26:51] <Duggan> thanks :)[03:27:38] <Duggan> maybe we should consider setting up the x86_64 build to include a partition with the efi file... maybe even by default[03:28:23] <Duggan> actually, that should be doable, be able to allow BIOS to boot it's way and UEFI to boot it's way... or do they conflict too much to make one solution for both?[03:39:00] <jessicah`> that's a jam nightmare to set up[03:42:01] <jessicah`> our build system isn't able to build two boot loaders in one invocation atm[03:42:03] <Duggan> nah :P[03:42:19] <Duggan> if the efi is precompiled, you shouldn't have to[03:42:22] <Duggan> I would think[03:42:27] <jessicah`> what?[03:42:42] <jessicah`> there's a reason you specify HAIKU_BOOT_PLATFORM=efi when building the loader[03:43:21] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.175> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[03:44:37] <Duggan> like I said, can you use a prebuild loader? if nothing else, have jam git it like a package... the hard part may be configuring the kernel, but is there a way to build and include two kernels and select which one to use based on the boot process?[03:46:05] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kacper@89.65.138.76> has joined #haiku[03:47:41] *** wesbl <wesbl!4f3380c4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.51.128.196> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[03:48:22] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[03:51:11] <Duggan> now for -j5, -j4, -j3, and -j2[03:51:41] *** FlyingJester <FlyingJester!~Kashyyyk@2602:306:31c4:2820::3e9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[03:52:25] <jessicah`> lulz[03:52:42] <jessicah`> we don't need two kernels[03:52:45] <jessicah`> we need two boot loaders[03:53:18] <Duggan> jessicah` then it sounds like it should be kinda simple then, right? put a BIOS bootloader on the Haiku partition and an EFI file in an efi partition (non-bootable)[03:53:34] <Duggan> or MBR for BIOS[03:53:37] <jessicah`> yes, but you can't build the two in a single invocation of jam atm[03:54:00] <jessicah`> feel free to dig into jam if you think you can :p[03:54:10] <Duggan> then the efi file can be a separate project... subjam or prebuilt[03:54:20] <Duggan> prebuilt works :)[03:54:38] * jessicah` sighs[03:54:56] <Duggan> I hate messing with jam, that's why I let you do it :D[03:56:38] <KapiX> can someone tell me what is the point of this loop? https://github.com/haiku/haiku/blob/b65adbdfbc322bb7d86d74049389c688e9962f15/src/system/libroot/posix/pthread/pthread_key.cpp#L31[03:56:54] <KapiX> it is always done just once[03:57:16] <KapiX> context: I am getting tons of crashes in __pthread_key_call_destructors[03:57:31] <KapiX> it jumps to weird addresses[03:57:40] <KapiX> so I suppose destructor value is bogus[04:01:32] *** return0e_ <return0e_!~return0e@178-78-68-13.static.kc.net.uk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:02:20] <jessicah`> it looks like it does that to avoid locking[04:02:46] <jessicah`> axel wrote it, so I suppose you could ask him?[04:03:22] <KapiX> I'm wondering if I should file bug report[04:03:41] <jessicah`> wouldn't hurt[04:03:46] <KapiX> I'm not really sure if this is problem with LibreOffice's cppunittester or with Haiku itself[04:04:19] <KapiX> there is exit() and runtime_loader in the stacktrace after all[04:04:33] <KapiX> and no function from LO actually[04:04:33] <jessicah`> runtime_loader should always be in the stacktrace[04:06:09] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has joined #haiku[04:07:49] <KapiX> meeeh, the worst thing is I don't know how to provide reproduce steps :P[04:08:06] <KapiX> requiring someone to waste 3 hours to build LO is pointless[04:08:59] <Duggan> nope, 18 minutes :P[04:09:29] *** FlyingJester <FlyingJester!~Kashyyyk@99-28-66-130.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net> has joined #haiku[04:09:47] <KapiX> is there any reason why there is no debuginfo package for haiku available?[04:10:03] <KapiX> there are ones for coreutils and such in the repo[04:12:30] <jessicah`> no idea; would be nice though[04:14:15] <Duggan> we have a debugger, does that help?[04:15:15] <KapiX> debugger doesn't help much if there is no debuginfo[04:15:47] <jessicah`> KapiX: is your crash when closing LO?[04:15:53] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.21.90.103> has quit IRC (Quit: Dariost)[04:16:00] <KapiX> cppunittester specifically[04:16:06] <KapiX> it crashes when it's closing[04:16:19] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smjcuwyagmscmfyj> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[04:16:20] <jessicah`> intriguing; I sometimes get crashes like that when building GHC[04:17:21] <Duggan> don't worry, I'm working on something that will eventually solve all our development woes ;)[04:17:36] <jessicah`> multi monitor support?[04:17:38] <jessicah`> :p[04:17:46] <Duggan> in part, yes :P[04:18:21] <Duggan> trust me, this will help tremendously with that :P[04:18:44] <KapiX> jessicah`: commpage_thread_exit -> runtime_loader -> __haiku_init_before -> exit -> _thread_do_exit_work -> __pthread_destroy_thread -> __pthread_key_call_destructors[04:18:49] <KapiX> that's the stacktrace[04:19:20] <KapiX> and in __pthread_key_call_destructors IP is either 0x4aee06 or 0x2afae06[04:19:30] <KapiX> that's why I think destructor is garbage[04:19:33] <jessicah`> hmm; I'd definitely file a ticket at trac[04:20:03] <Duggan> oooh I need to implement that feature too.... trac integration ;)[04:20:06] <jessicah`> also, if it triggers Debugger, you could probably save a core dump[04:20:24] <jessicah`> a core dump should be runnable[04:23:31] <jessicah`> you'd probably need to bundle up libs it depends on with the core file[04:23:45] <jessicah`> I'm not entirely sure[04:24:17] <KapiX> that's the issue[04:24:27] <KapiX> there's s**tton of them[04:24:44] <jessicah`> yeah, but surely not all them are needed for the thing that crashes?[04:24:50] <jessicah`> you can see from list of loaded images[04:25:07] <jessicah`> well, do you want to get it fixed or not?[04:25:09] <jessicah`> :p[04:25:19] <KapiX> I do[04:25:26] <KapiX> and I'm trying to find[04:25:34] <KapiX> the minimal set of libraries needed[04:25:42] <KapiX> list of loaded images doesn't help much[04:25:50] <jessicah`> well, with a core dump, they'd just need the core dump & libs loaded[04:26:05] <KapiX> I have already everything I need and I still can't run it[04:26:11] <jessicah`> then don't need to build everything[04:26:34] <KapiX> I'll see if I can do that because sometimes debugger can't even save the report[04:27:10] <KapiX> it's a shame we don't have up-to-date gdb[04:27:25] <KapiX> it's the only thing LO supports for debugging[04:27:29] *** gtht4242 <gtht4242!~GT@CPE-121-217-38-168.lnse1.cht.bigpond.net.au> has joined #haiku[04:28:47] <KapiX> apparently it wants to load all the libraries[04:29:01] <KapiX> and that doesn't work because they're too big and debugger crashes eventually[04:33:21] <jessicah> o.o[04:34:37] <KapiX> well, libvcllo has 93 MBs[04:34:44] <FreeFull> The network drivers will get pulled again from FreeBSD at some point, right?[04:34:45] <KapiX> and that just one of them[04:35:13] <KapiX> PulkoMandy said something about x64 not crashing with WebKit[04:35:28] <KapiX> but I just dread recompiling this stuff, took 6 hours on my machine[04:35:38] *** gtht4242 <gtht4242!~GT@CPE-121-217-38-168.lnse1.cht.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:35:56] <jessicah`> FreeFull: uh, good question :p[04:36:04] <jessicah`> at this stage, I believe the answer is no...[04:36:12] <jessicah`> think we need an updated compatibility layer[04:36:16] <KapiX> FreeFull, I don't think it will happen before beta[04:36:20] <FreeFull> Because Haiku doesn't have drivers for this laptop's wifi chip ):[04:36:41] <jessicah> same for mine[04:36:57] <jessicah> luckily, I have thunderbolt; so a thunderbolt to ethernet adapter works perfectly[04:37:30] <FreeFull> In my older laptop all the hardware was supported just fine. But I had to transfer the HDD from the older laptop to this one[04:39:05] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!~dario@181.47.131.175> has joined #haiku[04:41:46] <_Dario_> hello[04:42:09] <_Dario_> someone could help me to add the needed info for this bugreport?[04:42:12] <_Dario_> https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/999#issuecomment-271126440[04:46:07] <FlyingJester> Issue 999.[04:47:57] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[04:47:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[04:48:30] *** gtht4242 <gtht4242!~GT@CPE-121-217-38-168.lnse1.cht.bigpond.net.au> has joined #haiku[04:48:53] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-193-39.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[04:49:08] <Duggan> what kind of left recursive bullhockey is this crap....[04:55:05] <KapiX> ok, I got the self-contained archive[04:55:11] <KapiX> it's 1 GB -.-[04:57:34] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:186a:e60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the 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configuring from?[05:11:32] <gtht4242> the source directory[05:11:36] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@71.212.100.177> has joined #haiku[05:11:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[05:11:45] <Duggan> haiku/src? yeah don't do that[05:12:05] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@71.212.100.177> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[05:12:25] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[05:12:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[05:12:28] <Duggan> back up to your trunk (haiku) and make an output directory (mkdir generated.x86_64) then cd into it and run configure from there ( ../configure <blahblahblah>[05:12:29] <Duggan> )[05:12:35] <Duggan> wb Skipp_OSX[05:12:46] <gtht4242> ok[05:12:53] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[05:13:09] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[05:13:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[05:13:41] *** Skipp_OSX 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cores do you have?[05:17:52] <Duggan> 8[05:18:04] <FlyingJester> That does seem suspicious.[05:18:49] <Duggan> by "the numbers are wrong" means one of them reported it took about 1 hr 10min when in reality it took 18 minutes from the time I posted about restarting to the time I posted about finishing that build[05:24:36] <gtht4242> I'm running configure from generated.x86_64 and it still says no such file or directory[05:27:17] <Duggan> don't forget, since you're up a directory, your buildtools directory needs to be two directories up: ../../buildtools[05:27:46] <gtht4242> oh right[05:27:49] <Duggan> and don't forget your configure is one directory up: ../configure (not ./configure)[05:28:12] <gtht4242> ok[05:28:33] <gtht4242> I'm new to haiku[05:28:44] <gtht4242> and cmd line in general[05:29:06] <Duggan> no problem... welcome :)[05:29:40] *** CodeforEvolution <CodeforEvolution!a2c720e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.162.199.32.224> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:33:31] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-193-39.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[05:34:01] <Duggan> gtht4242 any luck?[05:40:09] <gtht4242> Duggan: still get the error, the full thing should be ../configure --build-cross-tools x86_64 ../../buildtools right?[05:44:03] <Duggan> gtht4242 and what directory are you in?[05:45:06] <gtht4242> Duggan: haiku/generated.x86_64[05:45:44] <Duggan> and buildtools is parallel to haiku?[05:46:39] <Duggan> for example: my directories are at /boot/home/Desktop/Repos/buildtools and /boot/home/Desktop/Repos/haiku[05:47:29] <gtht4242> no, I don't have the buildtools[05:47:52] <Duggan> you do need them if you're building x86_64[05:47:58] <gtht4242> I thought you didn't need to download them if you're building haiku on haiku[05:48:01] <gtht4242> oh ok[05:48:22] <Duggan> generally you do, but 64 bit build is in need of attention so theres some broke things that require buildtools to build it[05:48:32] <Duggan> generally you don't need buildtools*[05:48:35] <Duggan> but in this case you do[05:48:38] <gtht4242> ok thanks[05:48:51] <Duggan> no problem[06:00:53] *** jessicah` <jessicah`!~jessicat@unaffiliated/jessicah> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[06:08:11] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[06:08:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[06:36:37] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!~dario@181.47.131.175> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:37:45] <Duggan> most excellent :D I have found a copy of the original c++98 standard :D[06:39:31] *** hackkitten <hackkitten!~hackkitte@HSI-KBW-149-172-240-159.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[06:40:55] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@ip68-102-27-241.ks.ok.cox.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[06:44:18] <jessicah> :p[06:47:06] <jessicah> Duggan: I think it's going to always have to be that way =/[06:47:33] <jessicah> gcc buildsystem doesn't let us build libgcc.a itself, or with different flags to rest of gcc[06:48:09] <geist> well, that's not really true, you can use multilib to build multiple libgccs[06:48:09] <Duggan> :/[06:48:18] <geist> say a 64 and a 32bit one (though not in a 32bit toolchain build)[06:48:29] <Duggan> hey geist :)[06:48:30] <jessicah> but it still requires the same flags[06:48:38] <geist> i used it in fuchsia, works fine. it's always been the case with arm which has a pile of different build options[06:48:56] <jessicah> e.g. I, so far, haven't found a way to do primary lib with --enable-shared, and 32-bit libgcc.a with --disable-shared[06:49:25] <jessicah> geist: mm, if you know how to make that happen, that would be awesome :p[06:49:55] <jessicah> and we don't really need multilib; only 32-bit libgcc.a, nothing else...[06:50:13] <geist> 32bit one in a 64bit toolchain?[06:50:54] <jessicah> hmm, I guess do need a working -m32 too... hmm[06:51:52] *** jessicah` <jessicah`!~jessicat@unaffiliated/jessicah> has joined 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A: One leg is half the same.")[07:00:31] <jessicah`> it does; but it doesn't do that via multilibs[07:00:33] <Duggan> ok, trying to wrap my head around this... universal-character-names... is that how unicode is represented on-disk?[07:01:15] <jessicah`> Duggan: hmm?[07:01:16] *** vanisha <vanisha!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has joined #haiku[07:01:26] <jessicah`> unicode can be stored on disk in multiple ways[07:01:57] <jessicah`> UTF-8, UTF-7 (*shudder*), UTF-16, and then there's UCS-2, and I think a couple others?[07:02:15] <Duggan> yeah, the C++ standards talk about universal character names and I'm trying to figure out how to go about handling that[07:02:52] <Duggan> of the form \u hex-quad or \u hex-quad hex-quad (upper or lower case U)[07:03:32] <Duggan> or is there a way to ensure data is converted to that form first before I start processing it?[07:04:00] <jessicah`> well, can be stored, in general[07:04:03] <jessicah`> not specific to disk[07:04:51] <jessicah`> you'd need to decode into whatever you're using[07:05:13] <FlyingJester> Some preprocessors can be used as libraries to do such operations.[07:06:14] <jessicah`> Duggan: oh, I found that my firmware is buggy, needs boot code/data mapped in SetVirtualAddressMap[07:06:23] <jessicah`> seems a common bug to run into[07:08:52] <Duggan> oi :/[07:08:59] <Duggan> fixable? or workaroundable?[07:09:05] <jessicah`> yeah, fixed it[07:09:10] <Duggan> ah ok :D[07:10:35] *** gtht4242 <gtht4242!~GT@CPE-121-217-38-168.lnse1.cht.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:15:08] *** umccullough <umccullough!~umccullou@50-0-12-247.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net> has joined #haiku[07:15:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o umccullough[07:17:22] *** jessicah` <jessicah`!~jessicat@unaffiliated/jessicah> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[07:18:39] <jessicah> oops, no, didn't fix it =/[07:20:20] <jessicah> still had code commented out[07:22:54] <jessicah> ooh, now properly fixed :D[07:23:00] *** jessicah` <jessicah`!~jessicat@unaffiliated/jessicah> has joined #haiku[07:23:00] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jessicah`[07:32:22] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/cc0d46c938f6...2729d2b7e248[07:32:24] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson 2729d2b - harfbuzz: bump to 1.4.1.[07:40:41] <Duggan> jessicah` are you *sure* it's fixed? :P[07:44:07] <jessicah`> I am this time... I'm booted into desktop with uefi atm[07:46:21] *** jessicah` <jessicah`!~jessicat@unaffiliated/jessicah> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[07:46:52] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[07:50:14] *** vanisha <vanisha!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[07:50:22] <KapiX> jessicah: the program shouldn't crash even when it's run out of memory?[07:53:11] <jogplus> scottmc, so after many hours of letting it run it gave me a build failure. Here is an image of the error if anyone can help http://i.imgur.com/kRnxTsu.png[07:54:57] *** Coweater <Coweater!~vision@47.188.49.58> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[07:55:24] <jessicah> KapiX: what are you talking about?[07:56:05] <jessicah> jogplus: looks like it failed to download package[07:56:15] <jessicah> you can try again, sometimes it fails for useless reasons[07:56:49] <jogplus> jessicah: should I just run jam again?[07:56:53] <jessicah> yes[07:57:04] <jogplus> ok I will try it first thing tommorow[07:57:06] <jessicah> if it still fails, maybe try run the wget command manually[07:57:14] <jessicah> and see what happens[07:57:15] <jessicah> ok[07:57:23] <ohnx> you need to figure out what $source contains though[07:58:30] <KapiX> jessicah: Debugger crashes in superblock::superblock after taking about 1,5 GB of memory[07:58:37] <KapiX> + superblock comes from malloc[07:58:48] <jessicah> oh, you're talking about Debugger[07:58:54] <jessicah> is this on 32-bit?[07:58:58] <KapiX> what I'm asking is should I file a bug report[07:59:02] <KapiX> yes[07:59:10] <jessicah> might be limitation of 32-bit[07:59:18] <jessicah> but sure, doesn't hurt to file a bug report[07:59:49] <jessicah> it's better to file one and get closed as can't fix, than not file a bug report, and there to be a fix available[08:01:09] <HAIKU-irker273> jessicah-github.uefi-mmu-fix: [1 commit] https://github.com/jessicah/haiku/compare/d7ff3334445d[08:01:10] <HAIKU-irker273> d7ff3334445d: UEFI: leave runtime memory identity mapped.[08:02:29] <ohnx> when did we get a bot to notify about haikuports updates?[08:03:10] <jessicah> haikuports? been around for a long time[08:03:44] <ohnx> oh lol[08:03:58] <ohnx> never noticed[08:04:03] <jessicah> :p[08:08:20] <ohnx> by the way[08:08:32] <ohnx> have you ever done efi development on os x?[08:10:12] <KapiX> I have tried with libroot_debug and it seems that it's Debugger issue because it crashes almost immediately[08:10:47] <jessicah> ohnx: I've built haiku_loader.efi on osx and used refind there and stuff fine[08:11:14] <jessicah> but I nuked my osx install on my macbook air, because, ugh, osx :p[08:12:18] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/2729d2b7e248...6fd59b392de4[08:12:20] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] xdizzaster 6fd59b3 - beecrypt: added recipe (GCI 2016) (#994)[08:13:20] <ohnx> lol[08:13:35] <ohnx> uhh what compiler did you use..[08:13:38] <ohnx> ?*[08:14:16] <jessicah> huh? I just build cross tools for haiku[08:14:39] <jessicah> seriously, osx is a unix-like with a case-insensitive filesystem? what the heckle[08:15:11] <ohnx> you can pick case sensitive lol[08:15:19] <jessicah> even windows' linux subsystem manages to pull off case-sensitive FS emulation for NTFS partitions[08:15:30] <jessicah> yeah, but then stuff has potential to break[08:15:37] <jessicah> Adobe is a standout here[08:15:46] <ohnx> i use case sensitive[08:16:14] <jessicah> maybe Adobe have cleaned up their act, but it wouldn't work on a case-sensitive filesystem in the past[08:17:15] <ohnx> oh i dont use adobe stuff[08:18:12] <jessicah> :)[08:18:54] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[08:19:24] <ohnx> so you used haiku's tools to build it?[08:19:44] <jessicah> haiku_loader.efi? naturally[08:19:59] <jessicah> I haven't built anything for UEFI standalone[08:20:40] <ohnx> oh k[08:20:41] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[08:25:05] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d859b36.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[08:25:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[08:25:23] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has joined #haiku[08:34:29] <Duggan> hey OmniMancer, humdinger, Diver[08:34:43] *** ohnx|irccloud <ohnx|irccloud!uid199187@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ithgiidlvhrgmdzt> has joined #haiku[08:34:55] <humdinger> hullo, great parser of omicron 9[08:34:57] *** ohnx|irccloud <ohnx|irccloud!uid199187@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ithgiidlvhrgmdzt> has left #haiku[08:35:08] <Diver> hi[08:35:08] <Duggan> lol I kinda like that title... can I keep it?[08:35:21] * humdinger gift wraps it[08:35:42] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-193-39.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[08:35:58] <Diver> humdinger: btw, shouldn't "Manage repos" menu in HaikuDepot end with "…" as it opens another window?[08:36:18] <humdinger> it should, I agree.[08:36:58] <humdinger> I can fix it later[08:37:07] * Duggan now feels compelled to write a programming language called "Omicron 9"...[08:37:20] <Duggan> or design rather[08:37:50] <humdinger> do that after the compositing app_server...[08:37:58] <humdinger> so, by next week then? :)[08:38:06] <ohnx> lol[08:38:26] <Duggan> no, but the week after, you got it :D[08:38:49] <humdinger> "Ready for beta? Check"[08:38:59] <humdinger> excellent[08:40:20] <Duggan> >:D[08:49:28] *** Baggage_ <Baggage_!~Primed@83.143.240.15> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:50:52] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: humdinger * hrev50838 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d193fb94375a+%5E1aacfd694057[08:50:53] <HAIKU-irker273> d193fb94375a: HaikuDepot prefs: Add ellipsis to menu item[08:53:15] <PulkoMandy> best way to confuse computers about case sensitiveness so far: connect Mac OS X to a samba share on a Linux machine configured to be case sensitive[08:54:22] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: humdinger * hrev50839 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d7f781302d55+%5Ed193fb94375a[08:54:23] <HAIKU-irker273> d7f781302d55: Fixed build...[08:54:29] <humdinger> Always build, even after a seemingly easy change...[08:54:33] <humdinger> terribly sorry[08:55:19] <Duggan> lol[08:55:40] * humdinger grabs a coffee[08:57:18] <FlyingJester> Trufax.[08:59:11] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[08:59:34] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[09:01:00] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has joined #haiku[09:01:03] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[09:06:15] *** Emrys_ <Emrys_!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[09:09:34] *** jogplus <jogplus!4c5980b9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.89.128.185> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:09:35] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:13:31] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.71.224.12.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[09:13:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[09:15:52] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.71.224.12.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:18:00] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[09:22:25] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[09:23:04] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:25:59] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.71.224.12.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[09:25:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[09:26:05] *** Emrys_ <Emrys_!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:30:10] <PulkoMandy> my new screensaver: https://github.com/pulkomandy/neonlights[09:31:48] <humdinger> PulkoMandy: I like it. looks like colliding particles at the LHC.[09:31:53] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-193-39.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[09:32:16] <humdinger> Unfortunately, my hw seems to have a defect where the panel dies when comming out of a screensaver sometimes.[09:32:22] <humdinger> so I disabled it.[09:33:28] <PulkoMandy> you only need to uncheck "power off screen" (second checkbox in screensaver prefs)[09:33:45] <PulkoMandy> the screensaver itself should not be a problem[09:34:37] <humdinger> I had it unchecked.[09:34:49] <humdinger> I also think DMPS doesn't work for me anyway.[09:36:46] <PulkoMandy> mh, in that case it could be a crash of the specific screensaver module you were using? not sure if we exit safely in that case[09:36:51] <humdinger> Now saw Neon Lights in action. Extremely nice![09:36:59] <PulkoMandy> :)[09:37:07] <humdinger> it's a hardware issue.[09:37:10] <PulkoMandy> I'm adding some settings now, then we can have a release of it[09:37:24] <PulkoMandy> this is strange, because the screensaver isn't doing anything special[09:37:33] <humdinger> I get vertical lines that become more intense until the whole screen has been taken over[09:37:42] <PulkoMandy> DPMS does, but screensaver is just a normal application[09:37:57] <humdinger> I have to keep the macine powered off for a minute, or the pattern is still visible.[09:38:18] <humdinger> it's strange. but I only experieince that when the screensaver ran for some time.[09:41:49] <humdinger> Also nice about Neon Lights: no discernable CPU usage. very important to me.[09:42:59] <PulkoMandy> yes, otherwise I wouldn't use it as a screensaver[09:44:29] *** Vanisha <Vanisha!dfba5380@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.186.83.128> has joined #haiku[09:44:42] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: jessicah * hrev50840 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=3d870da3cb21+%5Ed7f781302d55[09:44:43] <HAIKU-irker273> 3d870da3cb21: UEFI: leave runtime memory identity mapped.[09:48:04] <jessicah> PulkoMandy: it seems very noisy[09:48:17] <jessicah> at least in your screenshot at repo[09:49:25] <PulkoMandy> yes, it's drawing single pixels[09:49:30] <humdinger> not noisy, it's not just boring lines it has exciting pixels, too! :D[09:49:56] <PulkoMandy> I don't let it run for too long so the screen is cleared quite often[09:50:57] <Duggan> how do you install it?[09:53:24] <jessicah> drop in non-packaged version of screensavers dir[09:53:32] <jessicah> might need to make the directories first[09:54:12] <PulkoMandy> ~/config/non-packaged/add-ons/Screen\ Savers\[09:54:21] <PulkoMandy> I'll upload a binary once I'm done with adding settings[09:55:14] <Duggan> it's gorgeous, PulkoMandy... but needs options :P how many lines, how fast they move, etc... most importantly, they all stay bunched up in the middle of the screen :/[09:56:21] <KapiX> yes, very nice, I might even start using screen saver now ;)[09:57:07] <Duggan> nevermind, they do move around :)[09:57:33] <Duggan> refreshes too quick... maybe after a minute or two add a black version that will wipe some of the brightness out :)[09:57:52] <Duggan> gorgeous though, PulkoMandy :D[09:57:59] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.71.224.12.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[09:58:00] <Duggan> (just trying to give some ideas, that's all :) )[09:59:30] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.71.224.12.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[09:59:30] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[10:02:59] <humdinger> has anyone creates a new page at the Haiku website?[10:03:05] <humdinger> I'd like something like https://www.haiku-os.org/community/links/[10:03:16] <humdinger> I'd call it https://www.haiku-os.org/community/software/[10:04:59] <humdinger> Is it a new "Web Page"?[10:05:30] <humdinger> looks like it...[10:05:38] <humdinger> I'm going in![10:05:59] * humdinger tosses the website into chaos[10:07:27] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/6fd59b392de4...ed0a55953748[10:07:29] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson ed0a559 - ed: bump to 1.14, add TEST().[10:09:57] <jessicah> I don't like the noise =/[10:10:04] <Duggan> lol humdinger[10:10:06] <jessicah> otherwise I like it[10:10:32] <jessicah> it reminds me of Windows screensaver[10:10:42] <Duggan> it'd be too plain without it... and the lines themselves are just white[10:11:24] <jessicah> I know[10:11:36] <jessicah> it kind of reminds me of the Ribbons screensaver that comes with Windows[10:11:42] <jessicah> although it's slightly different[10:13:30] <Duggan> no, we already have that[10:14:45] <jessicah> :p[10:14:48] <Duggan> ok maybe not, but kinda...[10:15:24] <jessicah> I can't figure out how to modify it to draw solid lines instead of points[10:16:35] <Duggan> PulkoMandy, did you use a flocking algorithm?[10:17:06] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #haiku[10:17:11] <Duggan> they tend to wander off the screen, might want to bound it[10:19:32] <jessicah> oh I see how line array thing works[10:25:12] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@217.112.129.1> has joined #haiku[10:28:56] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[10:29:48] <PulkoMandy> jessicah: it looks ugly with solid lines I think[10:30:00] <PulkoMandy> some blur on the dots could look nice but would use more CPU[10:30:06] <PulkoMandy> anyway, added some settings[10:34:43] <PulkoMandy> mh, can't upload binaries to github releases with Web+ nor Qupzilla :/[10:37:25] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has joined #haiku[10:38:39] *** ShalokShalom <ShalokShalom!~quassel@192-164-251-7.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #haiku[10:38:44] <ShalokShalom> hi there[10:38:46] <ShalokShalom> https://www.haiku-os.org/get-haiku[10:38:51] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has joined #haiku[10:38:54] <ShalokShalom> Alpha4 is now over 3 years old...[10:39:09] <ShalokShalom> no, 4 :P[10:40:47] <humdinger> nope: http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?h=r1alpha4[10:41:01] <humdinger> 2012-11-14[10:41:33] <humdinger> but we rather look ahead to beta... :)[10:42:37] <FlyingJester> The Haiku concept of Beta is a lot like 2.0 or 3.0 for most projects[10:43:07] <humdinger> other projects suck of course. ;P[10:43:49] <johnny_b> 8)[10:44:47] *** miqlas_ <miqlas_!~miqlas@217.112.129.1> has joined #haiku[10:46:29] <PulkoMandy> ok, screen saver released and announced on the forums[10:46:44] <PulkoMandy> I'll install it on my other machine so I can continue to use this one while it runs :>[10:48:35] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@217.112.129.1> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:49:56] <johnny_b> miqlas_: hello[10:50:33] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[10:50:55] <miqlas_> mornin'[10:51:39] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has joined #haiku[10:53:04] <Vanisha> PulkoMandy: Can you review my task ?[10:56:26] <miqlas_> Guys, there is no EFI enabled official image yet, right? If i build an own one and install it, can i update it with the official repos, or will it break something?[11:01:15] *** mikedld <mikedld!~mikedld@mikedld.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:02:43] *** mikedld <mikedld!~mikedld@mikedld.com> has joined #haiku[11:03:17] <jessicah> you can update it[11:03:22] <jessicah> the image doesn't contain the loader[11:03:27] <jessicah> and no, there's no released image yet[11:03:37] <jessicah> I plan to create a disk image for people to download[11:14:40] *** tqh2 <tqh2!~frho@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[11:14:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh2[11:15:46] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:16:14] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[11:17:38] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.71.224.12.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:17:57] <miqlas_> jessicah: but isn't there any difference in BIOS and UEFI enabled kernel?[11:18:10] <jessicah> kernel? no[11:18:15] <jessicah> only the loader[11:19:01] <PulkoMandy> and the framebuffer driver[11:19:12] <jessicah> yes, but that's merged[11:21:25] *** Vanisha <Vanisha!dfba5380@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.186.83.128> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:24:13] *** Malmis <Malmis!malmis@h-190-139.a486.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #haiku[11:26:03] *** prOSy <prOSy!~prOSy@p5B035B5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[11:26:26] <prOSy> hi[11:29:08] <humdinger> hullo[11:33:30] <ShalokShalom> humdinger: 2012 + 3 = 2015[11:33:56] <ShalokShalom> So, alpha 4 is more than 4 years old[11:34:24] <humdinger> I misunderstood. Thought you meant it's 3 years old not 4. :)[11:37:27] <miqlas_> jessicah: nice, i'll test it on my main laptop. Sadly it got too new WLAN module, so it will be not soo usable at first, but maybe somebody will update the Freebsd drivers soon.[11:38:35] <miqlas_> jessicah: do we get then a haiku.efi to point at bootfile in UEFI, or do we need an intermediary bootmanager like refit or something like that?[11:40:05] *** tqh2 <tqh2!~frho@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[11:41:48] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev50841 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=066137eb05fc+%5E3d870da3cb21[11:41:49] <HAIKU-irker273> 066137eb05fc: Deskbar: Scale cut-off leaf icon in horizontal mode[11:43:22] <ShalokShalom> humdinger: i quote your webpage[11:43:32] <ShalokShalom> that one states its 3 years old[11:43:39] <ShalokShalom> (more than, to be fair)[11:44:40] <humdinger> fixed. thanks.[11:45:21] <jessicah> miqlas_: uh, yeah, there's a haiku_loader.efi[11:45:45] <jessicah> on some hardware (like my macbook air), I still need to use refind to launch haiku_loader.efi, as has some weird issues[11:46:16] <miqlas_> i wait patiently for the uefi image then[11:46:28] <miqlas_> (im)patiently[11:48:27] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kacper@89.65.138.76> has quit IRC (Quit: KapiX)[11:51:20] <miqlas_> nice to see that KapiX working on LibreOffice dependencies... 2017 will be interresting.[11:53:05] *** umccullough <umccullough!~umccullou@50-0-12-247.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:53:31] <Skipp_OSX> goodnight everybody[11:53:46] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:54:16] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[11:54:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[11:56:13] *** miqlas_ <miqlas_!~miqlas@217.112.129.1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:57:34] <ShalokShalom> :)[12:00:20] *** seadog007 <seadog007!uid63898@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rxutdonvolsluhkb> has joined #haiku[12:01:03] <PulkoMandy> jessicah: I found how to make it less noisy: lower alpha for the colors, and more particles to compensate. But with very low alpha (1 to 4) it needs too many particles and I see noticeable CPU use because of that[12:01:19] <PulkoMandy> I'm lowering the alpha and increasing particles a bit, so it will look better, still[12:01:53] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@217.112.129.1> has joined #haiku[12:05:36] <miqlas-H64> Is there any Haiku-ricer?[12:06:06] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/ed0a55953748...7b11d12bd409[12:06:07] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] xdizzaster 7b11d12 - cutecom: added recipe (GCI 2016) (#990)[12:08:20] *** umccullough <umccullough!~umccullou@50-0-12-247.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net> has joined #haiku[12:08:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o umccullough[12:11:56] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/7b11d12bd409...19ca0729dcd2[12:11:58] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] xdizzaster 19ca072 - paperkey: added recipe (GCI 2016) (#998)[12:12:18] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[12:19:01] *** tqh <tqh!~TQH@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[12:19:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[12:23:29] <jessicah> PulkoMandy: I made my own variation :p[12:23:56] <jessicah> https://jessicah.org/Neon%20Lights[12:24:20] <jessicah> but it's probably a bit more CPU heavy, and the lines seem to flicker a little =/[12:24:31] <jessicah> I thought we had double-buffering...[12:25:01] <PulkoMandy> does not look gcc2 compatible?[12:25:18] <jessicah> oh, that's for x86_64 =/[12:25:20] <jessicah> heh[12:26:45] <jessicah> I'll publish to my github :)[12:30:52] <PulkoMandy> I tried doing something simimar to Spider (B_OP_ADD, very dark colors)[12:31:14] <PulkoMandy> it works well, but not for the white things, creates a big white spot at the middle[12:34:34] *** user_____ <user_____!~user@217.112.129.1> has joined #haiku[12:34:45] <user_____> Hi[12:34:50] *** user_____ is now known as miqlas-i[12:34:51] *** umccullough <umccullough!~umccullou@50-0-12-247.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:35:04] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-193-39.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[12:36:22] <miqlas-i> Yey, irssi 1.0.0 :)[12:40:40] <jessicah> PulkoMandy: https://github.com/jessicah/neonsparkles[12:41:27] <Diver> jessicah: PulkoMandy's Neon Lines link is broken :P[12:41:55] <jessicah> what the[12:42:16] <jessicah> oh I see[12:42:18] <jessicah> missing //[12:42:49] <jessicah> thanks, fixed :)[12:44:24] <ShalokShalom> why use Haiku still gcc2?[12:44:36] <jessicah> binary compatibility with BeOS[12:44:40] <ShalokShalom> aha[12:44:45] <ShalokShalom> for what?[12:44:51] <ShalokShalom> non free apps?[12:44:56] <jessicah> yeah[12:45:00] <ShalokShalom> ah i see[12:45:02] <ShalokShalom> like?[12:45:21] <jessicah> GoBe Productive is one[12:45:26] <ShalokShalom> why use Haiku still non free apps from a 20 year old OS? :P[12:45:28] <jessicah> SoundPlay I think[12:45:31] <ShalokShalom> ah i see[12:46:00] <ShalokShalom> are there no replacements for them?[12:46:07] <jessicah> well, if we had people to develop newer (even non-free) native apps that could replace existing ones, then we wouldn't need gcc2 anymore :p[12:46:12] *** tqh <tqh!~TQH@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[12:46:16] <ShalokShalom> i see[12:46:39] <miqlas-i> brb[12:46:43] *** miqlas-i <miqlas-i!~user@217.112.129.1> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[12:47:14] *** miqlas-i <miqlas-i!~user@217.112.129.1> has joined #haiku[12:49:32] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[12:49:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[12:50:03] <miqlas-i> Ok, it looks like it works.[12:50:06] <miqlas-i> Bye[12:50:10] *** miqlas-i <miqlas-i!~user@217.112.129.1> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:50:28] <jessicah> I assume he meant the UEFI loader... lol[12:52:01] <miqlas-H64> who?[12:52:29] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@89.233.73.122> has joined #haiku[12:52:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[12:54:05] <tqh> now if I could only trick someone to setup dp-port training for intel extreme...[12:56:08] <miqlas-H64> tqh, try with cookies....[12:57:01] <tqh> oooh, cookies...[12:57:04] <jessicah> miqlas-H64: oh, you're still here[12:57:44] *** ShalokShalom <ShalokShalom!~quassel@192-164-251-7.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has left #haiku ("http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.")[12:58:00] <jessicah> PulkoMandy: thanks for writing a cool screensaver :D[13:00:23] *** umccullough <umccullough!~umccullou@50-0-12-247.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net> has joined #haiku[13:00:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o umccullough[13:03:23] *** kneekoo <kneekoo!~Nicu@dslb-094-217-065-020.094.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:04:06] <Diver> bummer, Deskbar now crashes on start[13:04:15] <Diver> after latest commit[13:04:49] *** jorkoden <jorkoden!~joerg@2a02:2450:102e:51c:4018:d24d:9372:9ab8> has joined #haiku[13:05:26] <jorkoden> hello[13:07:50] <jorkoden> alpha 4 works ok. but I would like to run a more current nightly. however the current nightly has a couple of problems[13:08:34] <jorkoden> have to use vesa at 800x600, i don't get internet with dhcp or manual configuration[13:08:53] <jorkoden> any tips on which range of nightlies I should try?[13:09:00] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[13:09:12] <jessicah> Diver: heh, another John special?[13:09:22] <Diver> yep[13:10:54] <jessicah> and seriously, he can write paragraphs for each separate change, but can't split them into separate commits? >_<[13:12:04] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A29591.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[13:12:38] <jorkoden> is there a configuration file where I can set vesa resolutions directly?[13:14:25] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[13:14:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[13:19:11] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:20:15] *** vanisha <vanisha!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has joined #haiku[13:20:51] <jessicah> yes... sec[13:21:14] <jessicah> ~/config/settings/kernel/drivers/vesa[13:21:24] <jessicah> I forget the syntax[13:22:09] <jessicah> mode width height depth[13:22:19] <jessicah> so like: mode 1920 1080 32[13:22:27] <jessicah> pretty sure...[13:23:05] <PulkoMandy> jessicah: your screensaver doesn't build with gcc2, City needs a constructor to set reverse and count[13:23:24] <PulkoMandy> otherwise, runs ok but there is some flickering, I guess because you redraw everything at each run[13:23:32] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[13:23:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[13:23:40] <PulkoMandy> there is double buffering but it is not synchronized, the app_server will flush at "random" times[13:25:43] <jessicah> yeah, I couldn't figure out a way to deal with that =/[13:26:23] <jessicah> it's only really at the tip that it's most noticeable[13:26:30] <PulkoMandy> you would need to draw to an offscreen bitmap and flush it to the view when done[13:26:44] <PulkoMandy> you can look at the Spider screensaver, it does that[13:26:53] <PulkoMandy> but, more memory and CPU use[13:26:57] <jorkoden> jessicah: thanks[13:27:20] <jorkoden> any tipps on a "good" nightly to use?[13:27:22] <PulkoMandy> for a screensaver, when running fullscreen we could maybe lock app_server from refreshing until drawing is done (because it's a single app taking all the screen)[13:28:01] <jessicah> the slight flickering doesn't bother me too much[13:29:30] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[13:29:32] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:33:10] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[13:35:08] <Emrys> PulkoMandy, hi, fbrosson created two recipe tasks related to another one that was recently completed. if you have the time can you go over them and publish if everything is okay?[13:35:43] <Emrys> thanks[13:36:32] *** XeonSquared <XeonSquared!~ShadowKat@210.1.213.55> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[13:37:05] *** hackkitten <hackkitten!~hackkitte@HSI-KBW-149-172-240-159.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:38:16] <PulkoMandy> Emrys: both published, thanks![13:40:01] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has joined 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<humdinger> Germany[13:58:51] <Ace> oou, I see[13:58:58] <Ace> 2 pm there?[13:59:32] <humdinger> yes. 8 pm where you are.[14:00:09] <vanisha> Germany, there you have free education right ?[14:00:11] * humdinger makes creepy voice: I seee you....[14:00:26] <humdinger> we have.[14:00:37] <humdinger> It's a civilized country. :)[14:01:17] <vanisha> I am fascinated by the development out there ,one of the biggest car manufacturing hub .[14:01:39] * vanisha wishes to visit Germany some day[14:02:14] *** jown <jown!~jown@h46-59-40-160.docsis.dyn.cust-ip.bdtv.se> has joined #haiku[14:02:19] <Ace> lol, yes it's true[14:03:22] <Ace> I'm searching for good university that has a scholarship and low-expense for my daily life[14:03:30] <Ace> lol[14:04:13] <miqlas-H64> Ace: go to hungary then.[14:04:39] <Ace> probably hard to find[14:04:44] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD74DFC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[14:04:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[14:08:19] <Ace> hmm, I'm not interested to go there, and thanks for your recommendation[14:10:43] <Ace> $ git checkout origin/master fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git[14:11:14] <vanisha> Ace: You can even try out India , we have awesome universities out here . They even provide scholarship if you're eligible .[14:11:16] <Ace> what does it mean?[14:11:53] <humdinger> Ace: looks like you're not in the right directory.[14:11:56] <vanisha> Ace: One way to get that error message is to somehow not be in the git repo working tree[14:12:05] <Ace> hmm, I'm seeking for computer science program, I will try to find out, lol[14:12:09] <Ace> hmm[14:12:35] <vanisha> Ace: cd into the repository[14:12:52] <Ace> I just open my git bash and type it, lol[14:14:18] <Ace> repository that I clone before? like when I clone haikuports/haikuports??[14:15:53] <humdinger> you have to be in the folder of the project you cloned[14:18:41] <miqlas-H64> brb[14:18:42] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@217.112.129.1> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[14:19:07] <Ace> hmm, I forgot where I put my cloned folder, lol[14:19:38] <Ace> usually, where will it go when I clone it?[14:20:10] <humdinger> exactly where you stood when cloning it... maybe /boot/home/ ?[14:20:36] <humdinger> there's always the Find... panel[14:20:38] <Ace> ah, I found it, lol[14:20:51] <Ace> I clone it with windows, and do the project in haiku, lol[14:21:15] *** dax007 <dax007!dfbe72dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.190.114.221> has joined #haiku[14:21:21] <dax007> hello[14:21:28] <Ace> hello[14:21:34] <humdinger> hi dax007[14:21:40] <dax007> i wanted to know a few things about magnify[14:22:07] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: humdinger * hrev50842 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4e2842425b83+%5E066137eb05fc[14:22:08] <HAIKU-irker273> 4e2842425b83: Updated Web+ bookmarks[14:22:11] <dax007> what are crosshair and what do they do?[14:22:17] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[14:22:47] <humdinger> dax007: those are the little red markers[14:22:50] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:186a:e60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has joined #haiku[14:23:16] <humdinger> nope. they are not[14:23:18] <dax007> what do they do actually[14:23:47] <humdinger> sorry. you can set additional crosshairs. then at the bottom their delta position is shown.[14:24:03] <Ace> hmm, I supposedly already at the correct repository[14:24:26] <humdinger> dax007: that way you can measure the pixel distances between widgets e.g.[14:26:06] <humdinger> dax007: it's explained in the user guide[14:27:26] <dax007> ok[14:28:08] <dax007> and also what do the stick coordinates and add square options do?[14:28:38] <humdinger> make square?[14:29:03] <humdinger> I quote the user guide:[14:29:04] <humdinger> Stick coordinates ALT I Keeps updating the magnification area, but don't follow the mouse pointer any more.[14:29:05] <humdinger> Make square ALT / Reverts back to a square display after resizing the window.[14:29:43] * humdinger corrects the bad English[14:30:42] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[14:32:55] <dax007> humdinger : ok i get it thank you :)[14:32:58] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD74DFC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:33:14] <humdinger> np[14:47:30] *** dax007 <dax007!dfbe72dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.190.114.221> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[14:48:33] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[14:49:18] <Ace> error: pathspec 'origin/master' did not match any file(s) known to git.[14:49:21] <Ace> what does it mean?[14:50:20] <humdinger> probably depends on the command you tried. Do this in Vision:[14:50:28] <humdinger> /google pathspec 'origin/master' did not match any file(s) known to git[14:50:58] *** Muzer <Muzer!~muzer@cpc96772-rdng27-2-0-cust294.15-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net)[14:51:08] <jessicah> you might need a space[14:51:12] <jessicah> so origin master[14:51:18] <jessicah> depends on the command[14:52:22] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has joined #haiku[14:52:33] *** miqlas <miqlas!~user@217.112.129.1> has joined #haiku[14:53:01] <jessicah> also, is origin the actual name of your remote?[14:53:01] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-193-39.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:53:08] <jessicah> you can do git remote -v[14:53:50] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:54:18] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[14:54:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[14:54:24] <Ace> hmm, i see[14:54:25] <Ace> thx[14:54:49] <Ace> when i type git remote -v, nothing come out.-.[14:55:12] <jessicah> then you mustn't be in a git repo[14:55:33] <jessicah> anyway, I'm way overdue for sleep[14:55:45] <Ace> seems I accidentally get out from git repo cause of sudden error lol[14:55:46] <jessicah> hopefully someone else can help you[14:55:48] <Ace> okay, thx[14:56:29] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has joined #haiku[14:57:15] *** miqlas <miqlas!~user@217.112.129.1> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[14:59:15] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:00:09] *** fujisan <fujisan!~fujisan@unaffiliated/fujisan> has joined #haiku[15:00:09] *** vanisha <vanisha!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:01:31] *** Muzer <Muzer!~muzer@tim32.org> has joined #haiku[15:01:35] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has joined #haiku[15:01:40] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@217.112.129.1> has joined #haiku[15:04:14] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:12:21] *** whk <whk!b6373974@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.55.57.116> has joined #haiku[15:13:48] *** return0e_ <return0e_!~return0e@178-78-68-13.static.kc.net.uk> has joined #haiku[15:14:53] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has joined #haiku[15:15:11] *** petrichorx_ <petrichorx_!uid147077@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-npdvbskvnedrdbeb> has joined #haiku[15:19:32] *** Ace <Ace!24468f86@gateway/web/freenode/ip.36.70.143.134> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[15:26:54] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d859b36.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[15:28:27] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@ip68-102-27-241.ks.ok.cox.net> has joined #haiku[15:40:54] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev50843 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ba7f14caecbe+%5E4e2842425b83[15:40:55] <HAIKU-irker273> ba7f14caecbe: Add and update some more packages from the buildbots.[15:41:23] *** umccullough <umccullough!~umccullou@50-0-12-247.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[15:42:01] *** umccullough <umccullough!~umccullou@50-0-12-247.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net> has joined #haiku[15:42:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o umccullough[15:45:04] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:47:44] *** fujisan <fujisan!~fujisan@unaffiliated/fujisan> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[15:51:21] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@ip68-102-27-241.ks.ok.cox.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[15:56:09] *** jorkoden <jorkoden!~joerg@2a02:2450:102e:51c:a896:c9ee:aff0:b172> has joined #haiku[15:56:37] *** umccullough <umccullough!~umccullou@50-0-12-247.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:57:02] *** umccullough <umccullough!~umccullou@50-0-12-247.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net> has joined #haiku[15:57:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o umccullough[15:58:33] *** _VERITAS <_VERITAS!~vision@c213-89-15-228.bredband.comhem.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[16:00:25] *** dax007 <dax007!dfbe72dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.190.114.221> has joined #haiku[16:00:31] <dax007> hello[16:00:47] <dax007> i am having some problems while using magnify[16:00:57] <dax007> can anyone help me out?[16:01:01] <dax007> plzz[16:03:00] <dax007> here's the problem : as soon as i add the second crosshair... the application window becomes a square and all crosshairs vanish... is it supposed to happen??[16:04:35] *** umccullough <umccullough!~umccullou@50-0-12-247.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:06:47] <PulkoMandy> anyone with some knowledge about yab around? wondering if there is a problem with building it with gcc5 instead of gcc2[16:14:34] *** umccullough <umccullough!~umccullou@50-0-12-247.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net> has joined #haiku[16:14:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o umccullough[16:18:44] *** Muzer <Muzer!~muzer@tim32.org> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:22:25] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.175> has joined #haiku[16:28:09] *** umccullough <umccullough!~umccullou@50-0-12-247.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[16:35:48] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.21.90.103> has joined #haiku[16:39:23] *** Muzer <Muzer!~muzer@tim32.org> has joined #haiku[16:43:09] *** dax007 <dax007!dfbe72dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.190.114.221> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[16:54:13] *** umccullough <umccullough!~umccullou@50-0-12-247.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net> has joined #haiku[16:54:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o umccullough[16:56:29] *** umccullough <umccullough!~umccullou@50-0-12-247.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net> has left #haiku ("Leaving")[16:58:48] *** savant <savant!~savant@109.195.89.139> has joined #haiku[16:59:09] *** savant is now known as Guest59630[16:59:54] *** Guest59630 is now known as savant2212[17:00:10] <savant2212> Hello[17:00:20] <savant2212> jessicah are you here?[17:04:00] *** scottmc <scottmc!~scottmc@c-67-174-194-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:16:10] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[17:18:34] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.21.90.103> has quit IRC (Quit: Dariost)[17:22:52] <tqh> No, I think called it a day before.[17:23:48] <ohnx> savant2212: think she went to bed[17:25:55] <savant2212> timezones...[17:26:39] <savant2212> so, is there something that look a guide to build/run haiku on uefi macine/qemu?[17:27:36] <ohnx> build guide yes[17:27:44] *** petrichorx_ <petrichorx_!uid147077@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-npdvbskvnedrdbeb> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[17:28:07] <ohnx> check the wiki for jessicah's dirty haiku tree[17:31:56] <ohnx> i think it should "just work" though[17:37:25] *** savant2212 <savant2212!~savant@109.195.89.139> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[17:39:12] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[17:39:16] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@84.195.200.194> has joined #haiku[17:39:26] <BrunoSpre> hi all[17:39:28] <Begasus> 'lo peeps[17:39:41] <Begasus> who broke Deskbar? ;)[17:39:47] <BrunoSpre> have some problems with the here[17:39:48] *** savant <savant!~savant@109.195.89.139> has joined #haiku[17:39:48] <PulkoMandy> Skipp_OSX[17:40:03] <Begasus> with the update on the old compiler?[17:40:06] <BrunoSpre> yes me too have lots of problems with the Deskbar[17:40:12] *** savant is now known as Guest91769[17:40:24] <BrunoSpre> after update the Deskbar wont show up again[17:40:53] <BrunoSpre> so I installed an old version from CD[17:41:17] <BrunoSpre> but after update with pkgman same problem[17:41:41] <BrunoSpre> so I have to wait for a new build... isnt it?[17:44:08] <miqlas-H64> Or revert to the latest working version[17:44:09] <BrunoSpre> Do I?[17:44:46] <Begasus> can you revert to an previous hrev with pkgman?[17:44:49] <PulkoMandy> when you find problems with an update, there is no need to reinstall from CD, go in the boot menu (hold space or shift while booting), and "select boot volume"[17:44:54] <PulkoMandy> from there you can select an older rev[17:44:58] <Begasus> I could boot into the last working here[17:45:57] <BrunoSpre> but then I have to do that all time I boot Haiku... do I?[17:46:07] *** return0e_ <return0e_!~return0e@178-78-68-13.static.kc.net.uk> has quit IRC ()[17:46:19] <BrunoSpre> until there is a working update?![17:47:03] <PulkoMandy> yes, or you can try to "update" to an older version[17:47:20] <_Dario> hello PulkoMandy[17:47:22] <PulkoMandy> I think the simplest way would be to add a fixed-hrev repository to pkgman, then run pkgman full-sync[17:47:49] <BrunoSpre> update to an older version? how to do that in terminal?[17:48:35] <BrunoSpre> yes good idea... who is fixing it and how long do we have to wait?[17:49:29] <BrunoSpre> I will prefer to wait for an update/fixed-hrev repository... that sounds easiest[17:50:09] <BrunoSpre> someone should tell all the people out there who have this problem now[17:50:29] <_Dario> BrunoSpre, I guess that what you need to do is:[17:50:55] <_Dario> pkgman add-repo http://download.haiku-os.org/haiku-repositories/master/x86_64/current/[17:51:10] <_Dario> pkgman add-repo http://packages.haiku-os.org/haikuports/master/repo/x86_64/current/[17:51:44] <_Dario> replacing /x86_64/current/ with the architecture and release that you were using previously[17:52:12] <BrunoSpre> then: pkgman update...[17:52:22] <_Dario> then pkgman full-sync[17:52:44] <_Dario> 'full-sync' forces to syncronize all the packages[17:52:56] <BrunoSpre> ok I will try[17:53:09] <BrunoSpre> ok[17:53:21] <_Dario> because this time you are "downgrading" instead of "upgrading" :-)[17:53:22] <BrunoSpre> now I have to restart[17:53:37] <BrunoSpre> hi[17:53:39] <BrunoSpre> ok[17:53:42] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[17:56:55] <Begasus> base-url: http://packages.haiku-os.org/haiku/master/x86_gcc2/current[17:57:24] <Begasus> using this one in my pkgman list-repos, is there any difference in the one above?[17:57:48] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[17:57:49] <Begasus> aside from the arch[17:58:03] <BrunoSpre> hi again[17:58:03] <_Dario> I don't know, Begasus[17:58:09] <_Dario> worked, BrunoSpre?[17:58:13] <BrunoSpre> after restart... still same problem[17:58:37] <BrunoSpre> Deskbar it not showing up[17:58:58] <BrunoSpre> how to update to an older version[17:59:07] <BrunoSpre> yesterdays updat did work[17:59:25] <_Dario> Begasus, I'm using the same repo: base-url: http://packages.haiku-os.org/haiku/master/x86_gcc2/current[17:59:51] <_Dario> maybe my previous url was wrong... :-|[18:00:07] <BrunoSpre> maybe it was the broken one?[18:00:21] <_Dario> BrunoSpre: please, try to use this url instead:[18:00:31] <_Dario> http://packages.haiku-os.org/haiku/master/x86_gcc2/current[18:00:34] <BrunoSpre> ok I will try[18:00:42] <_Dario> http://packages.haiku-os.org/haikuports/master/repo/x86_gcc2/current[18:00:45] <BrunoSpre> yes I have x86 gcc2[18:00:47] <_Dario> add that repo[18:00:59] <Begasus> got the same problem with Deskbar ... but I doubt it makes any difference ...[18:01:10] <_Dario> but instead of /current/ use an old hrev[18:01:29] <_Dario> try /hrev50811/[18:01:51] <_Dario> http://packages.haiku-os.org/haikuports/master/repo/x86_gcc2/hrev50811[18:02:13] <_Dario> http://packages.haiku-os.org/haiku/master/x86_gcc2/hrev50811[18:04:50] <miqlas-H64> Bega, you should use the latest hrev, before the bugous merge: 50840[18:05:13] <BrunoSpre> strange ... bad data...[18:05:37] <Begasus> ok thanks miqlas-H64[18:05:41] <miqlas-H64> this commit makes problems: http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=066137eb05fc965261d6e50f24e41b9dcf79a5a7 (50841)[18:08:18] <BrunoSpre> better to wait for a new build...[18:08:26] <BrunoSpre> cannot get it working[18:08:31] <Begasus> hmm no luck also if I try with pkgman add.../hrev*[18:08:44] <BrunoSpre> bad data all the tries[18:09:00] <Begasus> someone should add an option to pkgman to revert to a previous working hrev ;)[18:09:17] <BrunoSpre> yes[18:09:57] <Begasus> something in the line of "pkgman revert-hrev*"? ;)[18:12:55] <Begasus> reboot[18:12:56] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@84.195.200.194> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[18:13:29] <BrunoSpre> reboot too[18:13:32] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[18:15:25] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[18:16:00] <Begasus> back in hrev50818[18:16:26] *** Sue <Sue!~sue@unaffiliated/sue> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[18:16:28] <_Dario> nicce[18:16:37] <_Dario> you used the boot option?[18:18:25] <Begasus> yep[18:19:09] <Begasus> doing a full-sync now ... looks like I had some stuff to clean out (think this install is about +2 years old) :)[18:19:26] <_Dario> :-)[18:20:36] <Begasus> ps, latest hrev show 50843 now[18:21:14] <Begasus> ok ... next reboot ...[18:21:17] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[18:21:35] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@ip68-102-27-241.ks.ok.cox.net> has joined #haiku[18:24:35] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[18:26:52] <_Dario> welcome back, Begasus[18:27:21] <Begasus> thanks :)[18:27:52] <Begasus> thanks :) 50818 on boot, but things seems to be ok so far[18:28:23] <Begasus> pkgman search residualvm .. no results ... :)[18:29:40] <_Dario> I managed to compile mednafen in Haiku[18:30:10] <_Dario> also, works perfect with usd-joypad :D[18:30:15] <_Dario> *usb[18:32:29] <miqlas-H64> _Dario: latest mednafen?[18:32:34] <_Dario> yes[18:32:44] <miqlas-H64> I had some problems with it.[18:33:05] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[18:33:05] <miqlas-H64> Can you create a recipe too for mednafen?[18:33:13] <_Dario> mednafen-0.9.39.2.tar.bz2[18:33:21] <_Dario> this version[18:33:25] *** jorkoden <jorkoden!~joerg@2a02:2450:102e:51c:a896:c9ee:aff0:b172> has quit IRC (Quit: jorkoden)[18:33:51] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[18:33:57] <_Dario> is from september 2016[18:34:33] <miqlas-H64> Maximal rice: http://chunk.io/f/8fa163fc034e4f2d81f65227bc41169b[18:35:01] <_Dario> miqlas-H64, sincerely, I never created a recipe :-/[18:35:59] <miqlas-H64> did you patched the mednafen sources?[18:36:07] <_Dario> no[18:36:16] <_Dario> just ./configure and then, make[18:36:22] <miqlas-H64> then you made something differently...[18:36:47] <PulkoMandy> anyone tried to build onlyoffice for Haiku yet?[18:36:58] <PulkoMandy> or should I do myself? :/[18:36:59] <miqlas-H64> is it java?[18:37:04] <PulkoMandy> no, I think it is Qt[18:38:13] <PulkoMandy> yes, Qt and probably QWebView and some HTML inside[18:38:15] <PulkoMandy> https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE/DesktopEditors[18:38:59] <miqlas-H64> does it needs the server part too? or is it capable to run and work standalone?[18:39:07] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@85.159.104.244> has joined #haiku[18:39:09] *** HaikuUser2 is now known as Luko[18:39:17] <Luko> hi[18:39:25] <miqlas-H64> we don't want to install a whole web stack for a document editor, right?[18:40:04] <_Dario> miqlas-H64: do you want I send you the resulting makefile?[18:40:15] <PulkoMandy> miqlas-H64: I don't know[18:40:25] <miqlas-H64> _Dario: i already deleted it, sorry.[18:40:32] <PulkoMandy> but we should try and see[18:40:38] <Luko> pls people help... its posible to permanently set Screen resolution.. i need set to 1920x1080[18:40:40] <miqlas-H64> PulkoMandy: looking into it.[18:40:47] <miqlas-H64> lemme report back morning[18:40:48] <PulkoMandy> worst case, it turns out it is more complex than LibreOffice and we give up[18:40:52] <PulkoMandy> thanks :)[18:41:09] <PulkoMandy> Luko: setting it from Screen preferences should be permanent[18:41:49] <_Dario> no problem! :-)[18:41:52] <Luko> if i boot from fail safe with 1920x1080 , too?[18:42:12] <_Dario> what app is showed in the screenshot you shared?[18:42:16] <PulkoMandy> Luko: yes, the screen preferences are saved for next reboot[18:42:57] <Luko> PulkoMandy thanks i try to set 1920x1080[18:43:26] *** Luko <Luko!~vision@85.159.104.244> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:44:33] <miqlas-H64> PulkoMandy: maybe you could look into it, it requires a native IO module: http://chunk.io/f/afa4a4e7ad1e40eb83355b1731891c2c[18:47:36] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/19ca0729dcd2...6ad0364d0187[18:47:37] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] return 6ad0364 - libusbmuxd: new recipe (#989)[18:48:18] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d859b36.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[18:48:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[18:49:05] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[18:53:19] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD74DFC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[18:53:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[18:53:55] *** Luko <Luko!~Lukas@85.159.104.244> has joined #haiku[18:56:52] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.175> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[18:57:11] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:57:41] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[18:57:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[19:00:30] *** Luko <Luko!~Lukas@85.159.104.244> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[19:17:48] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ogaqhbabbfzlizqt> has joined #haiku[19:17:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[19:19:42] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[19:22:32] <BrunoSpre> now I will try hrev50843 and see if the Deskbar will show up again...[19:22:49] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:23:44] <humdinger> AFAIK it wasn't fixed yet...[19:24:24] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[19:24:53] <BrunoSpre> in hrev 50843 the deskbar is still brocken...[19:25:02] <humdinger> AFAIK it wasn't fixed yet...[19:25:09] <BrunoSpre> better I try tomorrow again[19:25:18] <humdinger> better wait until it fixed...[19:26:06] <miqlas-H64> better fix until it fixed, so you can fix it while somebody else fixes it, so it will frickin' fixed at the end of the day![19:26:15] <miqlas-H64> just my 2 cent[19:26:29] <miqlas-H64> eurocent, übrigens.[19:26:33] * humdinger goes gets the trout[19:27:33] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has joined #haiku[19:27:55] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[19:28:00] <Vidrep> Hi[19:28:11] <humdinger> hello[19:28:36] <Vidrep> I hear there's some danger lurking in pkgman updates this morning[19:28:40] <Vidrep> Hi humdinger[19:28:54] <humdinger> deskbar broken[19:29:44] *** Vanisha <Vanisha!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has joined #haiku[19:30:32] *** return0e_ <return0e_!~return0e@178-78-68-13.static.kc.net.uk> has joined #haiku[19:30:44] <Vidrep> I don't think I'll be on haiku much today - NFL playoffs[19:31:02] <Vidrep> Priorities, you know...:)[19:31:28] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!~dario@181.47.131.175> has joined #haiku[19:31:30] <humdinger> hut, hut... (sp?)[19:31:36] <ohnx> blame 066137eb05fc965261d6e50f24e41b9dcf79a5a7[19:35:44] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!~dario@181.47.131.175> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:36:59] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[19:37:27] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jskipp@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[19:37:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[19:37:36] <Skipp_OSX> Deskbar crash, oh no![19:37:43] <ohnx> oh no![19:37:50] <ohnx> #Blamejs[19:38:07] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:38:11] <ohnx> idk though[19:38:16] <ohnx> might not be hrev50841's fault[19:38:26] <ohnx> it made a lot of changes to deskbar though :p[19:41:03] <miqlas-H64> #include <blame.h>[19:41:13] <Duggan> hi all[19:41:26] * humdinger bows[19:43:41] * Duggan waves at humdinger[19:44:11] *** hako <hako!~hako@2a01:388:394:112::1:8> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:44:41] <Skipp_OSX> ohnx: considering where it crashed I'm almost certain that commit must be causing the crash[19:44:48] * Skipp_OSX my bad[19:45:04] * Skipp_OSX works for me[19:45:34] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@217.112.129.1> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[19:45:46] *** miqlas-H64 <miqlas-H64!~Haiku@217.112.129.1> has joined #haiku[19:46:00] *** Vanisha <Vanisha!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:51:21] <miqlas-H64> Guys, any idea, how can i fix this: "jobs.c:959:14: error: 'child_times_t {aka struct rusage}' has no member named 'ru_maxrss'"[19:51:58] <miqlas-H64> I tried to #ifdef __HAIKU__ and then rusage->ru_maxrss = 0; but i got another error.[20:02:29] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[20:03:40] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev50844 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=52e243a7d1c9+%5Eba7f14caecbe[20:03:41] <HAIKU-irker273> 223ea4329f3d: Deskbar: Avoid leaking leaf bitmap's memory[20:03:42] <HAIKU-irker273> 52e243a7d1c9: Deskbar: Inital FetchIcon() in AttachedToWindow()[20:07:12] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[20:08:40] <ohnx> yay :D[20:14:38] <Vidrep> "This software is work in progress and has missing functionality as well as many (known and unknown) bugs. Use <DISTRO NAME> at your own risk."[20:15:50] <Begasus> :)[20:16:45] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD74DFC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: stippi)[20:16:54] *** stippi1 <stippi1!~Thunderbi@p4FD74DFC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[20:16:55] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi1[20:17:55] *** hako <hako!~hako@109.175.185.4> has joined #haiku[20:19:15] *** stippi1 is now known as stippi[20:19:26] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A29591.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: euver)[20:21:39] *** scottmc <scottmc!~scottmc@c-67-174-194-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[20:23:39] *** Klima <Klima!~Klima@static-78-8-176-191.ssp.dialog.net.pl> has joined #haiku[20:29:56] <Skipp_OSX> I guess I could have used BBItmap copy ctor instead...[20:30:53] *** mta <mta!~mta@52.10.131.237> has joined #haiku[20:31:51] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[20:34:21] *** dax007 <dax007!dfbe72dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.190.114.221> has joined #haiku[20:34:33] <dax007> hello[20:34:39] <humdinger> hi dax007[20:35:01] <dax007> i'm writing a redme file for paladin... any ideas for what i can include?[20:35:25] <dax007> readme*[20:35:26] <humdinger> that it doesn't work very well on Haiku? :)[20:35:39] <humdinger> it's been a long time since I used it...[20:35:49] <scottmc> daxoo7 perhaps try the learning to program book 1 task, that helps you learn c++ and paladin at the same time.[20:37:12] <dax007> i just have to write a readme file, so i was thinking of writing about how to install, then how to set it up before starting off with coding[20:37:58] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.68.205.57.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[20:38:33] <scottmc> dax007 it'd be nice to include a screenshot of it in action too.[20:38:47] <dax007> yes i would be doing that too[20:40:10] <miqlas-H64> The latest ZSH (released at 21.12.2016) comes with a config.sub and config.guess, what have no idea about haiku. Ok, i know how can i fix it, but hey, it isn't 2001 anymore![20:40:52] <scottmc> miqlas-H64 tell them to update their build files already![20:41:26] <Begasus> no autogen.sh or something in there?[20:42:59] <miqlas-H64> no autogen.sh here[20:43:19] <dax007> thank you very much sir[20:43:58] <miqlas-H64> my workaround is in this case to run libtoolize, it updates these files. is there any other way? ZSH creates no libs, so it looks strange to define libtoolize as reuirement.[20:44:38] <scottmc> libtoolize is what i would do as well[20:44:46] <Begasus> it also updates config.* files[20:45:03] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:46:06] <miqlas-H64> but why they shipping so old config.*? They report as latest modification date: 2009. And as far as i know, zsh used on pretty strange irons[20:46:28] *** humdinger_ <humdinger_!~humdinger@x5d859b36.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[20:46:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger_[20:46:54] *** humdinger_ <humdinger_!~humdinger@x5d859b36.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:47:00] <miqlas-H64> well, it is "totally" broken on Haiku, so we do not need to care about the old config files :)[20:47:06] *** humdinger_ <humdinger_!~humdinger@x5d859b36.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[20:47:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger_[20:48:08] <Begasus> old habbit miqlas-H64 ... lot's of sources still use out of date config.* files :)[20:48:26] <Begasus> 'lo humdinger scottmc miqlas-H64 btw :) (and all others)[20:48:35] <miqlas-H64> do not fix what doesn't kaputt enough?[20:48:39] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d859b36.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:49:06] <Begasus> if it works for you why fix it (doesn't mean it works for all of us) :)[20:49:14] <humdinger_> ho Begasus[20:49:15] <scottmc> hey[20:49:47] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[20:49:53] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: humdinger * hrev50845 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ee7da1af0a35+%5E52e243a7d1c9[20:49:54] <HAIKU-irker273> ee7da1af0a35: Mail and Notification prefs: use B_WIDTH_FROM_WIDEST[20:50:08] <Begasus> guess that if you would remove all instances of libtoolize -fci in the recipes we would have a problem :)[20:50:10] *** Guest91769 <Guest91769!~savant@109.195.89.139> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[20:51:09] <miqlas-H64> the haiku gawk port is really strange. jessicah reverted it to an earlier version, but it makes strange errors too.[20:51:26] *** humdinger_ <humdinger_!~humdinger@x5d859b36.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:51:58] <miqlas-H64> I had problems during compiling zsh with the 4.1.4 version, 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<dax007> can someone please help me out[22:04:36] *** Guest91769 <Guest91769!~savant@178.162.117.40> has joined #haiku[22:04:40] *** Guest91769 is now known as savant_d[22:07:17] <ohnx> dax007: do you got a github account?[22:07:25] <dax007> yes[22:07:42] <ohnx> have you cloned the haikuports/haikuports repository?[22:08:03] <dax007> ohnx: no[22:08:21] <ohnx> clone it and put your changes in there[22:09:03] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev50846 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=bea76b8aa160+%5Eee7da1af0a35[22:09:04] <HAIKU-irker273> bea76b8aa160: Deskbar: Call parent AttachedToWindow() first[22:09:11] <scottmc> dax007 is this for the README.md file? if so you'd need to clone the repo for the program you are working on[22:09:30] <dax007> scottmc: yes it is[22:09:42] <dax007> but i need to create a pull request[22:09:47] <scottmc> correct[22:10:17] <dax007> sir, what do i do after cloning the repository[22:10:19] <scottmc> read the github wiki about doing that[22:11:59] *** jorkoden <jorkoden!~joerg@2a02:2450:102e:51c:9997:d757:f067:c29> has joined #haiku[22:12:04] <dax007> scottmc: I've read it but i don't know what to put as the base branch and compare branch[22:13:15] <FlyingJester> You could just cowboy it. Worst case scenario, you have a useless PR on your clone which you can just cancel and not tell anyone about.[22:13:50] *** punsith2 <punsith2!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[22:16:31] *** punsith <punsith!~punsith@pool-68-131-77-34.nrflva.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:17:02] <ohnx> dax007: there should be a bar saying "this branch is <number> commits ahead of haikuports:master"[22:17:13] <ohnx> and then a button to press "pull request"[22:19:23] <dax007> ohnx: i see no bar saying that[22:19:41] <ohnx> dax007: wht is your github username?[22:19:49] <dax007> osomat123[22:20:09] <ohnx> you haven't forked the haikuports repository yet[22:20:26] <ohnx> go to https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports and click the "fork' button in the upper left[22:20:28] <ohnx> right*[22:24:01] <dax007> ohnx: done[22:24:10] <dax007> what do i have to do next[22:24:20] <ohnx> now commit your changes[22:24:51] <dax007> i didn't what you said[22:25:53] <dax007> get*[22:25:59] <ohnx> uhh[22:26:38] <ohnx> so you cloned the repository right?[22:26:44] <dax007> yes[22:27:05] <ohnx> now run `git add .`[22:27:10] <ohnx> then `git commit`[22:27:25] <ohnx> when you run `git commit`, a window will pop up and you can enter what you changed[22:27:38] <ohnx> for example, "modify README"[22:27:50] <ohnx> or "update recipe for libaac-0.3.1"[22:39:42] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p4FD74DFC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: stippi)[22:39:51] <scottmc> dax007 with README is this for again?[22:40:19] <dax007> scottmc: what do you mean?[22:40:59] <scottmc> oh i scrolled up, you are doing Paladin right?[22:41:36] <dax007> yes[22:42:40] <scottmc> so you would go to https://github.com/HaikuArchives/Paladin and click the fork there[22:44:06] <scottmc> the one ohnx pointed you to is if you are working on a recipe for haikuporter[22:44:54] <dax007> scottmc: what do i do now[22:45:50] *** owen <owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[22:46:04] *** owen <owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:46:38] *** owen <owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[22:46:41] *** owen <owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:47:17] *** owenca <owenca!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[22:49:34] <owenca> i cloned Hare but don't know how to build it. is there documentation?[22:50:38] <owenca> why isn't it in HaikuDepot?[22:53:06] *** BrunoSpre <BrunoSpre!~vision@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[22:53:14] <BrunoSpre> hello all[22:54:03] <BrunoSpre> anyone an idea why BePDF is not in the HaikuDepot anymore? Or did I miss some info? thx[22:54:29] <PulkoMandy> it's bepdf_x86[22:54:36] <PulkoMandy> new version, built with gcc5[22:54:44] <BrunoSpre> where do I find the newest version?[22:55:09] <BrunoSpre> should I use the gcc5 version too?[22:55:22] <PulkoMandy> it is in the depot[22:55:30] <BrunoSpre> ok I will look for it[22:55:32] <BrunoSpre> thx[22:55:47] <PulkoMandy> "pkgman install bepdf_x86" if you want to do it from command line[22:55:49] <owenca> thanks PulkoMandy[22:56:27] <BrunoSpre> ah ok Done! thx alot![22:56:32] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte)[22:57:48] <owenca> is Hare not in HaikuDepot?[22:58:37] <BrunoSpre> sorry... any news about the Deskbar problem with hrev50841/42/43 ???[22:58:40] <PulkoMandy> owenca: apparently not[22:59:05] <PulkoMandy> packages need to be added there manually, so not everything is added[22:59:18] <PulkoMandy> we are working on automating this, but progress is a little slow[22:59:39] <owenca> PulkoMandy how do i build Hare? i cloned it[23:01:47] <PulkoMandy> I don't know, isn't there a README? if not, just try running "make" in the directory if there is a Makefile[23:03:23] <owenca> README.md says nothing about it. there are Makefile.old and CMakeLists in every directory[23:03:52] <dax007> scottmc: can i merge by base haikuarchives/paladin with korli/paladin?[23:04:31] <owenca> PulkoMandy CMakeLists.txt[23:05:22] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@c-73-143-211-6.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[23:05:23] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@c-73-143-211-6.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:08:53] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@host81-159-244-131.range81-159.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[23:09:56] <PulkoMandy> owenca: then you need to use cmake, then make[23:10:21] <owenca> PulkoMandy http://pastebin.com/JjM4i5MD[23:10:36] <dax007> scottmc: sir, are you still there?[23:12:53] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@host81-159-244-131.range81-159.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:14:59] <dax007> emrys: sir i'm creating a pull request for a readme file for paladin. is it ok if i merge by base haikuarchives/paladin with korli/paladin?[23:15:50] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:16:18] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:18:12] <Emrys> you can find Paladin at HaikuArchives. clone that one and build[23:19:25] <Emrys> you'd be editing the readme from the haikuarchives version[23:19:35] <dax007> Emrys: do i have to clone the repo into haiku or into my computer?[23:20:03] <Emrys> haiku because then you'd have to build it for screenshots / demo[23:20:20] <Emrys> what Scott talked to you about[23:20:26] <Emrys> i think[23:20:50] <dax007> Emrys: i've made the fork as said but i don't know what to do ahead[23:21:13] <Emrys> yes so maybe a screenshot or two of having an interesting (but not too crowded) project going on[23:22:13] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: axeld * hrev50847 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=5f8edc9c51b6+%5Ebea76b8aa160[23:22:14] <HAIKU-irker273> 5f8edc9c51b6: Fix for ticket #12978 - Tracker GetInfo window layout problem[23:22:24] <dax007> Emrys: sir, where will i find the find i have to edir[23:22:29] <Emrys> so after you fork you can clone your fork.[23:22:33] <dax007> file*[23:22:48] <Emrys> this page will help you http://gitref.org/index.html[23:23:47] <Emrys> the file should be in main directory so if you clone repo in /boot/home it'll be /boot/home/Paladin/...[23:26:54] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev50848 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f36df2f6fce5+%5E5f8edc9c51b6[23:26:55] <HAIKU-irker273> f36df2f6fce5: Update sdl_image and dfu_util to fix dependencies.[23:27:34] <dax007> Emrys: sir, i've checked every folder and I can't find any file that says README.md[23:27:39] *** jown <jown!~jown@h46-59-40-160.docsis.dyn.cust-ip.bdtv.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[23:27:54] <Emrys> where have you cloned the repo?[23:28:09] <dax007> boot/home[23:28:29] <Emrys> do you see a Paladin directory there[23:29:30] <dax007> yes[23:29:47] <dax007> i've checked every folder in there[23:30:02] <Emrys> readme should be there. not in folders though[23:30:06] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.175> has joined #haiku[23:30:32] <Emrys> it should have the same contents as the github repo[23:31:10] <Emrys> what's your github username?[23:31:19] <dax007> osomat124[23:31:25] <dax007> sorry, osomat123[23:31:45] *** jogplus <jogplus!4c5980b9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.89.128.185> has joined #haiku[23:32:35] <Emrys> right so have you done git clone https://github.com/osomat123/Paladin ?[23:33:18] <dax007> no i've done git clone https://github.com/HaikuArchives/Paladin[23:33:43] <Emrys> that's okay too but you should also clone your fork[23:33:51] <Emrys> then only work on fork[23:34:02] <Emrys> either way you should have seen the readme[23:35:28] <dax007> can this work, i'll download the repo on my pc and email it to haiku... i just downloaded it in my pc and the readme file is there?[23:35:55] <Emrys> maybe there was something wrong on how you got it the first time[23:36:33] <dax007> no worries, i got the file via email[23:36:45] <Emrys> it's easier to work with git once you get the hang of it[23:36:52] <dax007> so, now how do i submit the changes[23:38:14] <Emrys> i don't think you'll be able to work on the email version[23:38:35] <dax007> Yes, i am[23:38:35] <Emrys> you need to clone it because you'll make commits to your fork then[23:39:13] <dax007> sir, it's working i'm editing it right now[23:39:58] <Emrys> working on the download is not the right way to do this task[23:40:23] <Emrys> see this https://goo.gl/VJsw1S[23:40:48] <Emrys> so you don't work in vain you should go back to Terminal and clone your fork[23:40:51] <Emrys> then work on that[23:41:12] *** Neel__ <Neel__!d8a5fa38@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.165.250.56> has joined #haiku[23:41:30] <dax007> ok i'll do that[23:41:51] <Neel__> hello, if I abandon a task can I come back to it later? or is it just gone?[23:42:00] <Emrys> i believe you can do that[23:42:07] <Neel__> ok thanks[23:42:08] <Emrys> which task do you have?[23:42:45] <Neel__> compile haiku, I wanted to switch install haiku[23:42:51] <dax007> I have to write a readme file for an application in haikuarchives[23:42:59] <Emrys> ah okay the compile one[23:43:16] <Emrys> no i know @dax007[23:43:38] <Emrys> yeah you can go ahead and abandon for a while @Neel__[23:45:51] <jogplus> hello! I have a quick question about the compile haiku task. I have run jam on haiku and edited credits.h, but now how do I see it in aboutsystem?[23:46:31] *** jorkoden <jorkoden!~joerg@2a02:2450:102e:51c:9997:d757:f067:c29> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:47:15] *** prOSy <prOSy!~prOSy@p5B035B5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: conversation terminated)[23:47:54] <owenca> Emrys i cloned Hare but can't find instructions on building it[23:48:17] <owenca> no Makefile or build.sh, etc[23:48:44] <owenca> README.md doesn't say anything about it[23:49:14] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[23:49:44] <Emrys> owenca, which task? i haven't read the channel log thoroughly..[23:50:00] <owenca> jogplus recompile haiku after editing credits.h[23:50:21] *** Neel__ <Neel__!d8a5fa38@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.165.250.56> has left #haiku[23:50:30] <owenca> then reinstall haiku[23:50:49] <Emrys> (from the resulting .iso)[23:50:54] *** Neel__ <Neel__!d8a5fa38@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.165.250.56> has joined #haiku[23:51:14] * Emrys missed jogplus there, needs some sleep[23:51:42] <Emrys> owenca, you don't seem to have a claimed task rn[23:51:43] *** hackkitten <hackkitten!~hackkitte@HSI-KBW-149-172-240-159.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:52:34] <Emrys> should i assume you want to fix an issue in Hare? (because you fixed a few more in other apps)[23:56:07] <Emrys> owenca, it has a makefile.old. i cp to makefile then make. there were errors[23:56:43] <owenca> Emrys yes. i tried Makefile.old[23:57:28] <jogplus> Emrys: I have the haiku.image in my generated folder but im not too sure what to do with that[23:57:52] <jogplus> and I edited the credits.h before I ran jam[23:58:29] <Emrys> you should add it to virtual box and install it. then you'll be able to see your name in the aboutsystem window[23:58:46] <Emrys> you need to run jam after you make any changes[23:59:20] <jogplus> how do i add it to virtual box from within haiku?