January 7, 2017 
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January 7, 2017 [00:04:31] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, so far it doesn't look good, sorry to say[00:05:13] <Vidrep> I'll try and put a few samples together[00:05:36] <Vidrep> Tested on hrev50830 x86_gcc2[00:05:46] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@37.250.200.83.bredband.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[00:06:28] *** pdziepak <pdziepak!~pdziepak@188.172.154.225> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:16:35] *** dax007 <dax007!dfbe72dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.190.114.221> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[00:17:14] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[00:18:51] <mmu_man> aw, anyone wants to translate Haiku to this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavian_alphabet[00:18:56] <mmu_man> :D[00:20:37] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kacper@89-65-138-76.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: KapiX)[00:22:04] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-193-39.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:25:57] <Skipp_OSX> I would like a fake bidi locale added[00:26:28] <Skipp_OSX> English text written backwards to test right-to-left languages such as Hebrew and Arabic[00:27:05] <Duggan> mmu_man I've seen that before[00:28:28] <prOSy> mmu_man: then we need klingon to ;-)[00:28:56] <mmu_man> indeed[00:29:05] <mmu_man> I know someone speaking it[00:29:07] <Skipp_OSX> fake bidi could be generated...[00:29:21] <mmu_man> https://twitter.com/loghaD[00:33:34] *** prOSy <prOSy!~prOSy@p5B08681A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: conversation terminated)[00:35:18] <Skipp_OSX> I love that clang uses Haiku's CSS for their API documentation, so there are Haiku icons and stuff in it[00:35:23] <Duggan> Lojban anyone?[00:35:40] <Duggan> Esperanto?[00:36:38] <mmu_man> Skipp_OSX: does it just use the system default css or their own per-OS stuff or is it just our packaging which does it?[00:37:14] <Skipp_OSX> mmu_man, http://clang.llvm.org/docs/_static/haiku.css[00:38:37] <Skipp_OSX> Somebody used our CSS on purpose[00:38:49] <Skipp_OSX> It is nice looking :)[00:41:26] <mmu_man> ah ok they use it always[00:41:28] <mmu_man> cool :)[00:41:34] *** jessicah` <jessicah`!~jessicat@unaffiliated/jessicah> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[00:41:41] <mmu_man> so I'm mentionned in the clang docs :D[00:41:59] <mmu_man> :copyright: Copyright 2007-2016 by the Sphinx team, see AUTHORS.[00:42:01] <mmu_man> lol :)[00:42:37] <Duggan> the scanner is actually working pretty well.... crapped out on an @ I have late in the file, but tokenized everything nicely up to that point :D[00:43:14] <Duggan> and you people are trying to tell me writing a c++ parser is hard :P[00:43:36] <mmu_man> :)[00:43:37] <jessicah> :p[00:43:49] <jessicah> it depends what kind of C++ you're parsing ;)[00:43:58] <jessicah> and whether you're generating a full AST or not[00:44:05] <mmu_man> I'd write GFA BASIC support if I had time[00:44:51] <Duggan> http://www.externsoft.ch/download/cpp-iso.html[00:45:40] <Duggan> I'm calling it "generic" for now 1: because I don't feel like looking up exactly what version it is, and 2: I need a baseline that can be used to develop others anyway[00:47:36] <Duggan> c++98 looks like[00:47:53] <CodeforEvolution> Wondering, if anybody knows how from one Makefile to run other Makefiles, though the other ones using the Makefile Engine.[00:48:18] <Duggan> well, it says it in the standard name anyway :P[00:49:53] <SMCollins> I thought someone had translated Haiku to Altean/Ancient[00:50:56] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[00:50:57] <jessicah> you can call another Makefile by doing $(MAKE) -C subdirname [target][00:51:08] <jessicah> but that sub-dir needs to have a Makefile in it[00:51:59] <CodeforEvolution> @jessicah: Thanks! Appreciate the Response![00:55:28] <Skipp_OSX> look at doxygen source some time...[00:56:06] <Skipp_OSX> parsing C/C++/Java/Obj-C is a fun mess[01:01:29] <Duggan> that's another thing this might be extended to do at some point in the future... generate documentation[01:03:00] <SMCollins> I need a nap[01:03:15] <SMCollins> Duggan: you still working on compositing ?[01:04:24] <SMCollins> off to nap[01:04:34] *** SMCollins <SMCollins!~vision@c-68-41-4-65.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[01:11:23] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev50831 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=c574ad267dda+%5E5d5696442113[01:11:24] <HAIKU-irker273> c574ad267dda: Haiku Book: Make wider matching Userguide[01:15:47] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[01:21:48] <Duggan> yeah, I just tokenized an entire file... go me[01:23:03] <jessicah> \o/[01:23:23] <Duggan> that doesn't just mean I split it up into tokens... I also identified their types[01:23:33] <Duggan> which is non-trivial[01:25:29] <jessicah> non-trivial is this merge =/[01:26:02] <_Dario> hi Vidrep[01:26:05] <Duggan> lol jessicah[01:33:04] *** scottmc <scottmc!~scottmc@c-67-174-194-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[01:33:17] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@2603:3023:80d:c600:f540:81d:e256:f667> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[01:33:32] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@173-14-248-42-washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #haiku[01:33:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[01:33:40] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@173-14-248-42-washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:34:09] <Duggan> now for the *really* fun part... the parser :D :D :D[01:35:42] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p5DC232B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: stippi)[01:38:55] *** DCatt <DCatt!~vision@pool-71-113-21-149.rcmdva.east.verizon.net> has joined #haiku[01:42:24] *** dax007 <dax007!dfbe72dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.190.114.221> has joined #haiku[01:42:29] <dax007> hello[01:42:50] <dax007> what does the always on top option do in the ActivityMonitor?[01:44:36] <scottmc> dax007 try it out...[01:45:42] <scottmc> if you put ActivityMonitor on the screen without that option checked, then move another window over it, it gets covered, but it you have Always on top checked what happens?[01:48:04] <dax007> i got it now[01:48:15] <dax007> thank you very much :)[01:54:05] <Vidrep> Trying to open PNG files in ShowImage is now causing a crash[01:54:31] <Vidrep> Can anybody else replicate?[01:54:42] <Vidrep> Hi _Dario[01:55:33] <_Dario> I already finished the translation of BurnItNow[01:55:46] <_Dario> I'm going to upload the catkey file[01:57:04] *** CodeforEvolution <CodeforEvolution!a2c720e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.162.199.32.224> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:57:30] <Vidrep> Great[01:58:11] <Vidrep> Can someone try opening the following PNG on their system to see if it crashes ShowImage?[01:58:11] <_Dario> the crash you are talking about, in what hrev is?[01:58:34] <scottmc> _Dario can you check in on the Music Manager task? raefaldhia is trying to get it to play music[01:58:43] <Vidrep> git-favicaon.png /boot/system/data/gitweb/static/[01:59:05] <Vidrep> hrev50830 x86_64[01:59:10] <_Dario> hello scottmc[02:00:24] <scottmc> hey[02:00:56] <_Dario> you are trying to contact to Dario Ca[02:01:26] <_Dario> Dario Casalinuovo?[02:01:46] <scottmc> yeah, sorry..[02:01:56] <_Dario> I'm another "Dario" :-)[02:02:37] <_Dario> don't worry, even in my coutry, "Dario" is not a very frecuent name[02:02:53] <_Dario> I mean, country[02:02:56] *** DCatt <DCatt!~vision@pool-71-113-21-149.rcmdva.east.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-090423]: i've been blurred!)[02:03:43] <scottmc> Barrett_ hey are you around?[02:09:36] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.175> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[02:10:35] *** ADS_Sr_ <ADS_Sr_!~ADS_Sr@cpe-173-175-17-54.hot.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[02:12:05] *** ADS_Sr <ADS_Sr!~ADS_Sr@cpe-173-175-17-54.hot.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[02:12:12] *** ADS_Sr_ is now known as ADS_Sr[02:12:45] *** dax007 <dax007!dfbe72dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.190.114.221> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[02:15:12] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@ip68-102-27-241.ks.ok.cox.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[02:24:53] *** ADS_Sr <ADS_Sr!~ADS_Sr@cpe-173-175-17-54.hot.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[02:24:59] *** pixdamix <pixdamix!~pix@unaffiliated/pixdamix> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)[02:30:50] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[02:31:14] <Duggan> oh man this is gonna be so good :D[02:31:37] <Duggan> I'm genuinely excited about working on this.... there *must* be something wrong with me :P[02:40:21] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[02:40:47] <Owen> which library is string_for_size() in?[02:52:03] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[02:57:02] *** pixdamix <pixdamix!~pix@unaffiliated/pixdamix> has joined #haiku[02:57:30] <mmu_man> libmedia maybe[02:57:54] <mmu_man> ah it's in the shared stuff[02:58:18] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!~dario@181.47.131.175> has joined #haiku[02:58:24] <mmu_man> Owen: -lshared[03:03:25] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~John@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[03:03:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[03:03:33] *** thenerd <thenerd!~thenerd@blk-89-201-230.eastlink.ca> has joined #haiku[03:05:21] *** thenerd <thenerd!~thenerd@blk-89-201-230.eastlink.ca> has left #haiku[03:05:30] *** thenerd <thenerd!~thenerd@blk-89-201-230.eastlink.ca> has joined #haiku[03:06:25] <Barrett_> scottmc[03:08:11] <Owen> found it in libtracker[03:08:41] <Owen> by running nm[03:09:12] <Owen> mmu_man[03:10:48] <Owen> how do i decompile run_array found in .rdef file?[03:12:56] <Owen> https://thepasteb.in/p/58hg5VZZz8gcv[03:17:45] <scottmc> i'm back now[03:20:12] <scottmc> decompile? .rdef is a decompiled file isn't it? to decompile an .rsrc file you can use rc -d filename.rsrc https://www.haiku-os.org/documents/dev/compile_them_resources[03:20:57] <scottmc> Owen, that appears to be some sort of hexcode. What program is it for?[03:21:18] <Owen> Slayer.rdef[03:21:29] <scottmc> Barrett_ can you check on the Music Manager task?[03:21:37] <Owen> in Slayer/src[03:21:48] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[03:21:52] <Owen> scottmc[03:22:27] <scottmc> Owen you might need to read through the source code to figure out how the program is using the "_runs" array[03:23:41] <Owen> scottmc pls see https://thepasteb.in/p/58hg5VZZz8gcv[03:25:05] <scottmc> Owen, i saw that, but that doesn't show me where the program is using the _runs array. Is it some sort of graphic? Or some other kind of data?[03:26:58] <Owen> i traced the code as much as i could and read TextView.h and API for TextView[03:27:49] <scottmc> does the program have menu icons?[03:28:16] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@ip68-102-27-241.ks.ok.cox.net> has joined #haiku[03:28:34] <Owen> it's compiled data for text field settings (offsets, font, etc)[03:30:26] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:186a:e60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:31:11] <scottmc> Owen what are you trying to do with Slayer?[03:33:20] <Owen> fix issues related to https://github.com/HaikuArchives/Slayer/issues/9[03:33:41] <Owen> which just got closed[03:35:16] <Owen> i still want to know how to decode the text_run_array data in Slayer.rdef tho[03:36:40] <scottmc> to "really" fix those you should convert it to use Haiku's layout management. See the recent commits on CapitalBe for an example of how to do that. https://www.haiku-os.org/documents/dev/laying_it_all_out_part_1[03:37:03] <scottmc> and here's the CapitalBe commits https://github.com/HaikuArchives/CapitalBe/commits/master[03:37:43] <scottmc> Owen, once you learn how to do layouting this way we have several apps that can use this sort of updating.[03:38:34] <Owen> i plan to do it soon if not before gci ends[03:39:43] <scottmc> Haiku is moving toward the Beta1 release, so fixing up these older apps to look good on Haiku would be a huge help.[03:40:13] <Owen> but i don't know if it would take care of the issues, unless we just skip the _runs array data[03:41:02] <scottmc> make a copy of the code in a different directory and try it...[03:41:26] <scottmc> but you might want to try learning the layout code on a smaller app such at BeGet[03:42:39] <Owen> it has hardwired offsets (left, top, right, bottom) that make the text displayed too low in the text field (the top value is too large)[03:44:11] <Owen> ok thx[03:44:17] *** rennj_ <rennj_!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has joined #haiku[03:45:21] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[03:46:13] <scottmc> yes, but those offset will not help if you try changing the system font to say size 8... then try it at size 18 or 24 even, you'll see the offsets were probably dialed in for just font size = 10 or 12 or 14.[03:46:45] *** rennj_ is now known as rennj[03:46:58] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:47:06] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[03:49:02] <scottmc> Owen back in the BeOS days everyone had screens with lower resolution so you didn't need to scale them up to be viewable on an HD screen. I'm running Haiku on 1920x1080 24" monitor and it looks great. Can't image trying to squeeze it into the 80x600 that some have to use when running it in a tiny VM window.[03:49:10] <scottmc> 800x600[03:49:46] <Vidrep> Has anyone run into corruption issues when copying files from one Haiku partition to another?[03:51:46] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has joined #haiku[03:53:34] <Vidrep> The specific issue I had was copying a pair of files named Sample.AVI and Sample.mp3. It is as if Haiku was "confused" and the copied files attributes were switched. e.g. the MP3 file when played was showing video![03:56:05] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.100.16> has joined #haiku[04:03:48] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[04:04:15] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@181.41.210.237> has joined #haiku[04:04:15] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@181.41.210.237> has quit IRC (Changing host)[04:04:15] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has joined #haiku[04:04:16] <Stephanie> Would like some help with running HoiPolloi.yab - I installed yab_ide and am trying to run it, but I am getting a syntax error, even though I haven't changed any of the source code (line 53) http://paste.ubuntu.com/23755891/[04:10:31] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-ieaehbqcfmibfpkt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[04:10:35] <jessicah> PulkoMandy: nice report! makes it look like we're making a lot of progress this month :D[04:10:50] <jessicah> bbjimmy is the yab expert ;)[04:10:54] <jessicah> maybe try poke him[04:11:30] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~John@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[04:14:04] *** Perelandra <Perelandra!~Perelandr@h69-130-75-184.nansme.broadband.dynamic.tds.net> has joined #haiku[04:14:24] <Owen> scottmc i see. so the current _run arrays should be removed from Slayer.rdef?[04:15:22] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~John@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[04:15:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[04:15:36] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[04:15:37] <HAIKU-irker273> jessicah-github.uefi-devices: [3 commits] https://github.com/jessicah/haiku/compare/6a569b28b184[04:15:37] <HAIKU-irker273> 445b080ea3e7: UEFI: support selecting video resolution & vesa settings file.[04:15:39] <HAIKU-irker273> be13524235f3: loader: get_boot_file_system() iterate over all devices found.[04:15:39] <HAIKU-irker273> 6a569b28b184: UEFI: improve boot support in devices.cpp[04:26:19] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!~dario@181.47.131.175> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:30:30] *** Bryanstein <Bryanstein!~Bryanstei@shellium/admin/bryanstein> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[04:31:21] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.175> has joined #haiku[04:36:47] *** Bryanstein <Bryanstein!~Bryanstei@shellium/admin/bryanstein> has joined #haiku[04:42:02] *** Barrett_ <Barrett_!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:52:19] <Duggan> yay, jessicah![05:01:05] *** Ace <Ace!244694ea@gateway/web/freenode/ip.36.70.148.234> has joined #haiku[05:01:43] *** Perelandra <Perelandra!~Perelandr@h69-130-75-184.nansme.broadband.dynamic.tds.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[05:06:23] <Skipp_OSX> hi Duggan[05:12:15] <jessicah> still a bit more work to do :)[05:12:35] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[05:18:43] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.175> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[05:19:31] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[05:20:57] <Duggan> hey Skipp_OSX, jessicah :)[05:21:00] <Duggan> jessicah me too :P[05:21:16] <Duggan> working on the parser now... finally got all the function declarations done, now to finish the definitions :P[05:21:39] <Duggan> I foresee some work needing to be done on the scanner, but that shouldn't be a problem :)[05:22:03] <Duggan> honestly, I could have a c++ parser done in a couple days :P[05:23:46] <Duggan> think I'm insane yet? ;)[05:24:09] <FlyingJester> C++ is much harder to parse than it first appears. It is disgustingly ambiguous.[05:24:37] <jessicah> gah, now haiku isn't booting[05:24:40] <jessicah> what the heckle[05:24:44] <Duggan> I never said it was going to be fast or pretty... but it should work at least[05:25:02] <FlyingJester> What's wrong with using libclang?[05:25:24] <Duggan> it would take as long for me to figure out how to use it as it would take for me to write one myself, plus I haven't written one for c++ before[05:26:16] <Duggan> if I had, I wouldn't be writing one now :P[05:26:42] <Duggan> but I have a little bit of a code base to start me off at least[05:26:52] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[05:27:04] <FlyingJester> At my work, we are currently moving away from Swig to create bindings for C++ simply because Swig cannot handle C++11, and chokes utterly on some smart pointers.[05:27:43] <FlyingJester> libclang has the advantage of being much better at parsing C++ than probably almost anything (except perhaps GCC, which is at a similar level, but doesn't have a nice API to talk to about it).[05:28:43] <FlyingJester> Things won't get any better with C++14 or C++17.[05:29:51] <Duggan> maybe not but most of our codebase is c++98 as I understand it, so this'll last for a little while... maybe even long enough for this parser to be modified to support additional versions.... or even languages... we'll see[05:31:01] <jessicah> ugh[05:31:05] <jessicah> what the heckle[05:31:11] <jessicah> now nothing boots at all[05:31:18] <Duggan> uh oh :/[05:31:21] <jessicah> I tested all of this ;([05:31:35] <FlyingJester> heckle[05:43:15] <jessicah> gah, I changed the offsets in disk_identifier struct accidentally >_<[05:43:45] <jessicah> silly me :p[05:44:57] <Duggan> lol[05:45:07] <Duggan> hmmm... maybe I'm going through another larval stage...[05:47:29] *** petrichorx_ <petrichorx_!uid147077@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uvvfqwttborewhnd> has joined #haiku[05:57:04] <Duggan> please note last line: http://catb.org/jargon/html/L/larval-stage.html[06:05:22] <jessicah> heh, I'm kinda like that atm too[06:05:32] <jessicah> yesterday, I was up until 6am this morning :p[06:06:32] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[06:07:52] <Duggan> :P[06:13:03] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[06:23:45] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[06:29:20] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@ip68-102-27-241.ks.ok.cox.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[06:38:13] *** Muzer <Muzer!~muzer@cpc96772-rdng27-2-0-cust294.15-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:39:30] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[06:59:24] *** Muzer 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<Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[07:49:27] *** gtht4242 <gtht4242!~GT@CPE-121-217-38-168.lnse1.cht.bigpond.net.au> has joined #haiku[07:51:47] <gtht4242> haiku keeps crashing when I try to download source code through git in terminal[07:52:27] <gtht4242> I'm using git clone https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku.git[07:53:08] <gtht4242> Is this correct?[07:55:04] <Duggan> https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/building/get-source-git[07:56:09] <Duggan> no, it isn't[07:56:13] <gtht4242> ok so the .git wasn't needed[07:56:17] <gtht4242> thanks[07:56:20] <Duggan> no problem[07:56:54] *** n878 <n878!~user8446@114.124.2.55> has joined #haiku[07:57:13] *** n878 <n878!~user8446@114.124.2.55> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:57:44] *** petrichorx_ <petrichorx_!uid147077@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uvvfqwttborewhnd> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[07:59:43] *** Ace <Ace!~user2270@114.124.2.55> has joined #haiku[08:02:41] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[08:02:49] <Ace> test[08:03:03] <Ace> hello[08:04:29] <jessicah> hihi[08:24:48] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[08:33:27] <Duggan> jessicah remember how I said my scanner worked earlier?[08:34:50] <Duggan> well, it did, but only because I forgot a piece of code in it that needed to be replaced :P so I'm working on that and some extentions to it now... may take another day before it's completely done :P lol[08:37:48] <jessicah> :p[08:44:00] <Duggan> jessicah and then maybe one or two days to get the parser done :P[08:44:02] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85bd06.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[08:44:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[08:44:07] <Duggan> hey humdinger[08:44:30] <humdinger> hi extra-earthling[08:45:53] <Duggan> yep :D[08:47:01] <Duggan> having a blast working on this :D[08:55:17] *** 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devices.cpp[09:35:31] <HAIKU-irker273> 6b4cbec040a1: UEFI: identify the boot partition to check that it's valid.[09:36:03] <FlyingJester> Woo! \o/[09:36:46] <jessicah> it's slowly improving[09:37:36] <FlyingJester> It's cool to see, at any rate.[09:38:30] <jessicah> one of my old friends had one of his friends IRL be like "I can't believe Haiku exists, or that it has better EFI support than FreeBSD"[09:38:42] <jessicah> haha, crazy small world[09:39:01] <jessicah> she was like "I'm friends with that person!" :D[09:39:34] <FlyingJester> I'm not even disappointed in OSes having poor EFI support, EFI is just such a weird thing that.[09:39:49] <FlyingJester> But it's still cool to have, to not need to rely on GRUB or syslinux to chainboot.[09:40:03] <jessicah> it's not so bad once you wrap your head around it[09:40:12] <PulkoMandy> we never relied on GRUB or syslinux here :D[09:40:22] <jessicah> the only problem is when you run into buggy firmware[09:40:36] <PulkoMandy> and it could be worse, we could be trying to wrap our head around the forth language for open firmware[09:40:46] <FlyingJester> OpenBoot?[09:40:55] <FlyingJester> I for one prefer it, myself.[09:41:05] <FlyingJester> The environment for the user is much nicer, to me anyway.[09:41:29] <PulkoMandy> I have not messed enough with both to know yet[09:41:50] <PulkoMandy> maybe next time I buy a PC I'll try to set it up with UEFI[09:42:05] <FlyingJester> I have played with OpenBoot a lot, it's rather nice to use in many ways.[09:42:10] <PulkoMandy> current laptop too old to support it, and desktop already set with BIOS so not sure I want to redo everything[09:42:18] <FlyingJester> EFI isn't bad in itself, but the implementations are just terribly immature.[09:43:18] <FlyingJester> I recently bought an EFI laptop, and it turns out it doesn't have BIOS support. It's also Phoenix-branded EFI, so I expected something usable. It's got lots of very, very strange quirks that make it act like BIOS from 20 years ago.[09:43:51] <jessicah> mm, Intel boards are generally quite good[09:44:15] <FlyingJester> Weird stuff. It can only use one boot device, the boot order doesn't matter, if the first device fails it just says it can't boot and doesn't try the next one. For EFI booting from HDD, you need to manually set the partition and boot file.[09:44:34] <FlyingJester> Just lazy, weird stuff like that. I know it's just the implementation, but it's not fun to deal with.[09:45:50] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3326 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/3326 blamelist: Jessica Hamilton <jessica.l.hamilton at gmail dot com>[09:46:49] *** raefaldhia <raefaldhia!24481834@gateway/web/freenode/ip.36.72.24.52> has joined #haiku[09:49:03] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[09:53:19] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85bd06.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[09:53:21] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@37.250.200.83.bredband.tre.se> has joined #haiku[09:53:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[09:54:53] <Duggan> it's all your fault, jessicah :'([09:55:22] <jessicah> what now?[09:55:29] <jessicah> no, that's a transient build failure[09:56:05] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@37.250.200.83.bredband.tre.se> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:03:28] <PulkoMandy> we should fix this xattr thing someday :/[10:03:54] <PulkoMandy> or just deprecate the fake xattr support and allow only --use-xattr and --use-xattr-ref[10:03:56] <jessicah> yeah...[10:05:28] *** jessicah` <jessicah`!~jessicat@unaffiliated/jessicah> has joined #haiku[10:05:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jessicah`[10:09:18] *** jessicah` <jessicah`!~jessicat@unaffiliated/jessicah> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:11:28] *** jessicah` <jessicah`!~jessicat@unaffiliated/jessicah> has joined #haiku[10:11:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jessicah`[10:11:41] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:17:12] *** raefaldhia <raefaldhia!24481834@gateway/web/freenode/ip.36.72.24.52> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[10:17:18] *** ADS_Sr_ <ADS_Sr_!~ADS_Sr@cpe-173-175-17-54.hot.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[10:18:33] <Duggan> is there any reason in particular that newlines in Haiku are cr+lf?[10:18:58] <Duggan> oh wait, I forgot I ported some of this from windows.... hrm...[10:19:07] *** ADS_Sr <ADS_Sr!~ADS_Sr@cpe-173-175-17-54.hot.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[10:19:14] *** ADS_Sr_ is now known as ADS_Sr[10:19:22] <Duggan> but the lines I'm getting this on are all new.....[10:20:46] <PulkoMandy> we should use unix LF-only, make sure your text editor and git (if used) are set up properly[10:21:37] <Duggan> PulkoMandy, Pe[10:22:20] *** ADS_Sr_ <ADS_Sr_!~ADS_Sr@cpe-173-175-17-54.hot.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[10:23:40] *** ADS_Sr <ADS_Sr!~ADS_Sr@cpe-173-175-17-54.hot.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[10:23:46] *** ADS_Sr_ is now known as ADS_Sr[10:23:49] <Duggan> figured it out[10:28:32] *** ADS_Sr_ <ADS_Sr_!~ADS_Sr@2605:6000:5483:1b00:b159:40e3:30f0:e541> has joined #haiku[10:29:16] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #haiku[10:29:40] <Duggan> well, that was terrible... but fun... 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openssh: fix missing icon in notification window on x86_64[12:08:24] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/42eded2921a6...9b6f809e57c0[12:08:26] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys 9b6f809 - openssh: bump revision[12:10:33] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has joined #haiku[12:10:33] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:12:15] *** Ace <Ace!244694ea@gateway/web/freenode/ip.36.70.148.234> has joined #haiku[12:15:04] <Ace> hello[12:15:07] <Ace> it's me[12:15:09] <Diver> hi[12:17:43] <Ace> I'm not done with my becasso lol[12:18:06] *** Diver1 <Diver1!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has joined #haiku[12:18:49] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[12:19:47] *** Diver <Diver!~Adium@broadband-46-242-9-99.nationalcablenetworks.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[12:19:50] <Diver1> Ace: what left?[12:20:42] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@217.112.129.1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:22:06] <johnny_b> Szikla_Szilard:[12:22:23] <johnny_b> Szikla_Szilard: hello[12:25:05] *** Szikla_Szilard <Szikla_Szilard!~szilard@217.112.129.1> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:26:38] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-193-39.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[12:31:50] <Ace> hmm, no progress actually, lol[12:32:27] *** return0e_ <return0e_!~return0e@178-78-68-13.static.kc.net.uk> has joined #haiku[12:33:37] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:38:30] *** prOSy <prOSy!~prOSy@p5B035B5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[12:38:38] <prOSy> hi[12:42:23] <Duggan> alright, guys, it's 5:45 am... time for bed... take it easy[12:42:48] *** Duggan <Duggan!~Duggan@adsl-74-243-44-213.bix.bellsouth.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[12:43:06] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p5DC23A63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[12:43:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[12:49:56] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[12:51:20] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:12:45] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 2 commits to release [+49/-84/±6] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/750ed7329b68...f9794291a31c[13:12:46] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 54ac918 - Remove out of date recipes.[13:12:48] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy f979429 - sync with x86_gcc2 repo[13:16:44] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: GeneralDuke)[13:25:05] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p5DC23A63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:25:52] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p5DC23A63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[13:25:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[13:26:14] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9b6f809e57c0...cc0d46c938f6[13:26:15] <Not-4c8d> [haikuports/haikuports] fbrosson cc0d46c - freetype: bump to 2.7.1.[13:27:34] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A28A5E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[13:34:38] *** illwieckz_ <illwieckz_!~illwieckz@157.7.140.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Ça va couper chérie…)[13:34:59] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@157.7.140.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[13:34:59] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@157.7.140.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[13:34:59] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[13:39:47] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[13:45:50] *** awilcek <awilcek!~vision@p2E506D4D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[13:50:56] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[13:51:44] <awilcek> Hi , is there an sox-port ? - in BeOS-days we had an Version 12.x[13:52:39] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:52:45] *** Dacian <Dacian!5f4cbda7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.76.189.167> has joined #haiku[13:52:59] <Dacian> hello[13:56:02] <Dacian> i've made a pr for a recipe and fbrosson told me to change download link and i've done that and now when i run the recipe at a moment it says no such file or directory in .../haiku-apps/fairtrade/work-1.0.0 but that folder is there[13:56:08] <Diver1> awilcek: this? https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/blob/master/media-sound/sox/sox-14.4.2.recipe[13:56:47] <Diver1> Dacian: how do you run it?[13:57:07] <Dacian> hp fairtrade[13:57:09] <Diver1> what is the full command and exact error[13:58:08] <Dacian> http://pastebin.com/raw/USdk0kww[13:59:14] <Diver1> probably recipe is missing some dep[13:59:21] <Diver1> where is your PR?[13:59:38] <awilcek> Diver1 : Looks great - how can i use it?[13:59:56] <Dacian> https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/992#pullrequestreview-15524329[14:00:47] <Diver1> Dacian: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/12592#comment:9[14:01:30] <Diver1> awilcek: there is no package for it yet, but you can build it with haikuporter[14:02:48] <Diver1> Dacian: try to comment out this line https://github.com/czeidler/fairtrade/blob/master/gui/column/ColorTools.h#L83[14:03:01] <awilcek> Diver1: uuuh - things i never done bevor...[14:03:07] <Diver1> in .../haiku-apps/fairtrade/work-1.0.0[14:03:21] <Diver1> awilcek: it's not that difficult[14:03:31] <Diver1> pkgman install haikuporter[14:04:32] <Dacian> iw worked[14:04:32] <Diver1> or better yet use this man https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter#installation-haiku[14:04:54] <Diver1> cool)[14:05:20] <awilcek> Diver1: Thanks - now i have to read...[14:06:08] <Diver1> Dacian: so now you need to commit this change in that folder and extract patchset using hp "fairtrade -e"[14:06:52] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[14:06:55] <Diver1> then add PATCHES="your.patchset" to the recipe[14:07:14] <Dacian> and what do i have to add in that patch?[14:07:58] <Diver1> patchset filename that was generated after "hp fairtrade -e"[14:08:27] <Dacian> yep but it is empty[14:08:47] <Diver1> thats because you didn't commit anything[14:09:02] <Diver1> cd to your work dir[14:09:07] <Diver1> and commit your change[14:09:17] <Dacian> git commit?[14:09:20] <Diver1> then "hp fairtrade -e" will extract it[14:09:23] <Diver1> yes[14:09:34] <Diver1> try git status; git diff[14:09:44] <Diver1> first to see your changed[14:09:47] <Diver1> changes[14:10:29] <Dacian> it see changes just in recipe[14:10:35] <Diver1> it's important to do it inside haiku-apps/fairtrade/work-1.0.0/source folder[14:10:45] <Diver1> otherwise you won't see anything related[14:11:24] <Diver1> *sources[14:11:33] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[14:11:49] <Diver1> even one dir deeper[14:16:58] <Dacian> thank you mate[14:17:57] <awilcek> Diver1: grr... sox-14.4.2 is skipped, as it is broken on target architecture -- so i must wait..[14:18:14] *** premislaus <premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[14:19:45] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[14:20:33] <Dacian> Diver1[14:20:49] <Dacian> how can i update my pr?[14:21:53] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #haiku[14:24:10] <Diver1> Dacian: try to push your changes[14:24:17] <Diver1> after you commit them[14:24:18] <premislaus> Hi! Haiku is bootable on recent nightlies?[14:24:27] <Dacian> i've run git push -f[14:24:38] <Dacian> and it push it here https://github.com/dacianf/haikuports/commit/574f1666384e5d52801fa96e3c4a0d0e602ae58d[14:27:04] *** AndrewZ <AndrewZ!4a4b0cb6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.75.12.182> has joined #haiku[14:28:30] <Dacian> it worked[14:28:34] *** Dacian <Dacian!5f4cbda7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.76.189.167> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[14:30:26] <premislaus> I can easily boot to Linuxes, but not to Haiku (legacy boot in EFI). If I force boot order, I can go only to Haiku bootloader, but it does not recognize any volumes.[14:34:31] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[14:34:38] <awilcek> Diver1: Thank you - and bye...[14:35:36] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has joined #haiku[14:36:56] <Diver1> np[14:37:35] <Diver1> premislaus: should be[14:37:54] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:186a:e60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has joined #haiku[14:40:07] <premislaus> Diver1 I don't have luck. I'm using: sudo umount /dev/sdb, then: sudo dd if=/path/to/download/haiku-nightly-anyboot.iso if=/dev/sdb bs=1M;sudo sync;sudo eject /dev/sdb[14:40:20] <premislaus> *of=/[14:41:00] <premislaus> Anyboot, raw, gcc2x86, x86-64 - not work.[14:41:36] <Diver1> and /dev/sdb is your hard drive?[14:41:43] <premislaus> pendrive[14:42:02] <Diver1> you need anyboot for it[14:42:13] *** Diver1 is now known as Diver[14:42:14] <premislaus> I had, not work.[14:42:17] *** stippi1 <stippi1!~Thunderbi@p5DC23A63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[14:42:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi1[14:42:50] *** awilcek <awilcek!~vision@p2E506D4D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[14:43:08] <Diver> premislaus: are you sure you're not trying to boot off usb3 port?[14:43:31] <premislaus> Yes. I tried USB 3.0 and 2.0.[14:43:53] <Diver> 3.0 might not work, so don't use it for now[14:44:17] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p5DC23A63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[14:44:17] *** stippi1 is now known as stippi[14:45:01] <Diver> Legacy (CSM Boot) + /dev/usb + anyboot + usb2 port should work[14:46:01] <premislaus> Yeah, I know, but it doesn't work for me.[14:50:12] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:50:55] <Diver> premislaus: maybe you can dd directly to a partition?[14:51:22] <Diver> in this case you'll need raw + makebootabletiny[14:51:33] <Diver> + grub[14:51:44] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[14:53:05] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:57:24] <PulkoMandy> arfonzo scottmc: are your package builders offline?[15:00:29] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[15:01:23] <AndrewZ> @premislaus - are you trying to build a USB flash boot?[15:03:00] <premislaus> yes, writing image on it[15:03:20] <premislaus> like always in the past[15:04:41] <premislaus> In the past I've done this on Windows and Haiku, but not in Linux.[15:05:53] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:15:44] <AndrewZ> OK, you are doing it from Linux[15:15:59] <AndrewZ> I have a dirty hack that I use[15:16:21] <AndrewZ> I burn the ISO to a CD, then install from CD onto USB flash drive[15:16:40] <AndrewZ> each install uses a CD, but here CDs are cheap[15:20:07] <PulkoMandy> you don't need that, "cp haiku.image /dev/sdX" will build a bootable USB drive[15:20:27] <PulkoMandy> (no need to use dd anymore, Linux finally implements cp properly so that this works :D)[15:21:55] <Diver> PulkoMandy: really? what about mbr?[15:22:22] <Diver> and what was wrong with cp[15:25:30] <premislaus> ok, thanks for support, i can try[15:30:32] <PulkoMandy> Diver: if you write to the whole disk (sdX) it also writes the MBR. If you use the anyboot image, it will have a complete MBR and partition layout, if you use a raw image, it will not but it should still be bootable unless your BIOS is broken (some BIOS wrongly check for a partition table, they are not supposed to do that)[15:31:04] *** premislaus <premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: premislaus)[15:31:21] <PulkoMandy> and the problem with dd is that it has a ridiculously small block size by default. 128 bytes, on a 512 byte drive this means rewriting each sector 4 times, on a drive with 4K sectors, rewriting each sector 16 times[15:31:36] <PulkoMandy> and it is a low level tool and makes sure to bypass all possible caching normally done by the linux kernel[15:33:34] <Diver> oh, didn't know cp can copy to a device now[15:34:35] <PulkoMandy> UNIX says "everything is a file" :)[15:34:49] <Diver> right)[15:35:44] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[15:35:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[15:38:08] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@212-107-155-57.customers.ownit.se> has joined #haiku[15:41:18] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@212-107-155-57.customers.ownit.se> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:47:49] <AndrewZ> #Barrett Good afternoon, Sir[15:48:16] <AndrewZ> @Barrett Good afternoon, Sir[15:49:53] *** premislaus <premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[15:50:15] <premislaus> PulkoMandy: no luck[15:50:24] <premislaus> https://paste.gnome.org/p4l4mxagw[15:51:49] <Barrett> hey AndrewZ[15:52:25] <PulkoMandy> premislaus: that looks correct, so I'd say something strange with your BIOS?[15:52:32] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[15:53:06] *** petrichorx_ <petrichorx_!uid147077@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pguheoxuzrcjxfzn> has joined #haiku[15:54:05] <premislaus> hmm, two years ago I don't had problems with booting Haiku from USB. No problems with Linux and Windows installer. Maybe I can check alpha4.[15:54:51] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[15:54:59] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:55:03] <AndrewZ> I have a working web cam, it works with CodyCam[15:57:52] <AndrewZ> I was playing with Cortex, I attached the USB web cam producer node to the video consume node but nothing happens[15:59:35] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:01:30] *** Szikla_Szilard <Szikla_Szilard!~szilard@217.112.129.1> has joined #haiku[16:02:00] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@217.112.129.1> has joined #haiku[16:07:48] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.71.224.12.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[16:07:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[16:08:58] *** Szikla_Szilard <Szikla_Szilard!~szilard@217.112.129.1> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[16:10:19] *** premislaus <premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: premislaus)[16:15:09] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has joined #haiku[16:15:35] *** whk <whk!b6373974@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.55.57.116> has joined #haiku[16:15:48] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:16:14] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has joined #haiku[16:17:23] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:17:39] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has joined #haiku[16:24:44] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[16:25:17] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has joined #haiku[16:27:59] *** AndrewZ <AndrewZ!4a4b0cb6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.75.12.182> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:34:41] *** premislaus <premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[16:35:01] *** Perelandra <Perelandra!~Perelandr@h69-130-75-184.nansme.broadband.dynamic.tds.net> has joined #haiku[16:38:22] <premislaus> PulkoMandy: Strange. EFI with CSM BIOS do not list flash stick with alpha4, but after I set boot order I can load Haiku. hrev44702 looks good, is fast, but there is nowe network frivers for me, and I have screen tearing - http://imgur.com/gallery/HgAh4[16:38:25] <premislaus> :)[16:38:57] <PulkoMandy> well you can try to find the most recent revision that still boots[16:39:01] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-193-39.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:39:37] <premislaus> *not network[16:39:47] <premislaus> hmm maybe before EFI merge?[16:41:08] *** AndrewZ <AndrewZ!4a4b0cb6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.75.12.182> has joined #haiku[16:41:39] <PulkoMandy> take the oldest one you can from donwload.haiku-os.org and start with that I'd say[16:41:39] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:43:49] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85bd06.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[16:43:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[16:44:55] <tqh> Don't think the EFI merge should change anything, unless you installed and setup the EFI boot-loader.[16:48:25] *** whk <whk!b6373974@gateway/web/freenode/ip.182.55.57.116> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:49:21] *** waddlesplash <waddlesplash!uid58358@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-smjcuwyagmscmfyj> has joined #haiku[16:49:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[16:50:35] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:53:51] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[16:55:23] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:55:52] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has joined #haiku[16:57:20] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[16:57:42] *** premislaus <premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: premislaus)[17:01:35] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:02:56] *** premislaus <premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has joined #haiku[17:04:00] <premislaus> hrev50657 don't boot, only to Haiku Bootloader[17:05:14] <premislaus> Which can not find any volumes.[17:10:52] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[17:14:24] <waddlesplash> Perelandra: reviewed & replied on your new code[17:15:13] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:15:36] *** DCatt <DCatt!~vision@pool-71-113-21-149.rcmdva.east.verizon.net> has joined #haiku[17:17:29] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BSr@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[17:17:40] <BrunoSpr> hello all[17:19:16] <humdinger> hullo[17:19:21] <Ace> hello[17:22:39] *** dax007 <dax007!dfbe72dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.190.114.221> has joined #haiku[17:22:57] <dax007> hello[17:23:21] <humdinger> hi[17:24:31] <dax007> i wanted to know what did the two buttons : one on the extreme left and one next to the record button do in soundrecorder[17:24:35] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: humdinger * hrev50833 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=5ddc54f27e5d+%5E6b4cbec040a1[17:24:36] <HAIKU-irker273> 5ddc54f27e5d: Updated gcc2 packages for links and lynx.[17:25:39] <humdinger> dax007: the extreme left looks like << ? and the other the floppy symbol?[17:26:29] <humdinger> hmm... the << and >> don't seem to do anything. :)[17:27:29] <dax007> humdinger: i thought so too[17:27:33] <dax007> thank you[17:27:45] *** fujisan <fujisan!~fujisan@unaffiliated/fujisan> has joined #haiku[17:28:47] <humdinger> SoundRecorder is very old and hasn't been touched for a very long time.[17:28:47] *** dax007 <dax007!dfbe72dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.190.114.221> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[17:28:56] <humdinger> those are the controls from the old MediaPlayer.[17:29:29] <humdinger> I guess it was a copy&paste job. Thinking the missing feature wold be implemented soon... :)[17:31:56] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.175> has joined #haiku[17:33:07] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3328 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/3328 blamelist: Humdinger <humdingerb at gmail dot com>[17:35:24] <BrunoSpr> looks like these 2 Buttons for fast rewind and ffwind does not play/work in the MediaPlayer as well...[17:36:47] <PulkoMandy> they do next/previous track, but for that you need several files in a playlist[17:37:20] <BrunoSpr> ah ok[17:37:30] <BrunoSpr> that makes sense[17:37:37] <humdinger> those are different buttons: |<<[17:37:58] <xdizzaster> Hi! Could someone take a look at my PR/task? fbrosson seems to be away and I would really like to know what's left to do. Here's the PR: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/994[17:37:59] <PulkoMandy> yes[17:38:10] <PulkoMandy> there is no fast fwd/rewind in MediaPlayer that I can see[17:38:22] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[17:38:29] <Vidrep> Hi[17:38:35] <PulkoMandy> (which is a shame, because its engine would support that and playing videos backward)[17:38:44] <humdinger> Hi Vidrep![17:38:54] <Vidrep> Hey humdinger[17:39:07] <humdinger> Vidrep: just so you know. I got your mail with the issues in Sanity and Vision.[17:39:24] <humdinger> Vidrep: I already started on Vision, but it's slow going...[17:39:25] <Vidrep> OK[17:39:39] <Vidrep> I bet[17:40:09] <PulkoMandy> xdizzaster: you will need cmd:libtoolize$secondaryArchSuffix instead of cmd:libtoolize I think (not sure why)[17:40:13] <Vidrep> So many things[17:40:36] <PulkoMandy> other than that, looks good[17:40:54] <xdizzaster> PulkoMandy, thanks. When do you have to add $secondaryArchSuffix to a cmd? I never seem to get it right[17:41:06] <humdinger> It's easier when you only have to move some buttons around. :)[17:41:06] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev50834 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=564aac42098c+%5E5ddc54f27e5d[17:41:07] <HAIKU-irker273> 564aac42098c: Add a 1360x768 mode to the "well known modelines"[17:42:00] <Ace> humdinger, can u help me?[17:42:19] <humdinger> who knows, Ace.[17:42:29] <humdinger> let's find out[17:42:30] <PulkoMandy> xdizzaster: it's a bit tricky :) the idea is that in some cases, you need a command that matches the compiler you are going to use[17:42:56] <Ace> hmm, fixing BeCasso task, lol[17:43:14] <PulkoMandy> this includes the compiler itself (obviously), pkg-config and similar tools (because they return library paths and compiler options for the matching compiler), libtoolize (not sure why, I guess it has some compiler-specific paths inside)[17:43:48] <PulkoMandy> and commands that go together with a library (sdl-config comes to mind, there are probably similar cases elsewhere)[17:45:34] <humdinger> Ace: I'm not sure what there is to do... all commits on HaikuArchive are newer than on orangejua's...[17:45:56] <humdinger> only update the recipe?[17:47:03] <Ace> hmm, I already make a pull request[17:48:03] <humdinger> this: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/996 ?[17:48:09] <humdinger> it's more figlet than becasso...[17:48:43] <humdinger> I'd say create a new one just for becasso[17:49:54] <Ace> how to do that?[17:50:08] *** Vanisha <Vanisha!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has joined #haiku[17:50:31] <humdinger> I'm sure there is git magic to do it, but I'm no fbrosson...[17:50:37] <xdizzaster> PulkoMandy, got it, thanks![17:51:03] <humdinger> I'd copy the recipe to a save place and start from scratch with a clean haikuports repo.[17:51:18] <humdinger> Ace: the use feature branches, as suggested in the hp wiki[17:51:21] <humdinger> *then[17:52:07] <Vanisha> I am testing a recipe on x86_64 it's stuck at "Fetching package for devel:libboost_program_options"[17:52:12] <Vanisha> what does that mean?[17:52:45] <humdinger> seems to have issues getting that package.[17:53:28] <PulkoMandy> stop it and install manually[17:53:37] <PulkoMandy> pkgman install devel:libboost_program_options[17:53:38] <Ace> hmm, i dont understand[17:53:42] <PulkoMandy> you will get more feedback[17:54:05] <PulkoMandy> Ace: git checkout origin/master ; git checkout -b becasso[17:54:12] <Vanisha> okay cool[17:54:30] <PulkoMandy> this will 1) rewind your working directory to origin/master (haikuports without your changes), 2) create a branch named "becasso"[17:54:36] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[17:54:51] <PulkoMandy> you can then re-add some of your commits (using git cherry-pick), or manually redo and commit your changes[17:55:07] <Ace> its in git bash?[17:55:09] <PulkoMandy> then you can push the new becasso branch to your github fork, and then create a pull request from that[17:55:11] <PulkoMandy> yes[17:55:13] <Vanisha> PulkoMandy: It failed[17:55:35] <Vanisha> Failed to find a match[17:55:48] <PulkoMandy> Vanisha: sounds expected, because there is no boost for gcc2[17:56:03] <PulkoMandy> maybe you need a $secondaryArchSuffix on devel:libboost_program_options ?[17:56:26] <Vanisha> It's there already[17:56:30] <Vanisha> I just checked the recipe[17:56:35] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BSr@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:56:41] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:56:57] <PulkoMandy> Vanisha: and do you build it with the _x86 suffix?[17:57:18] <PulkoMandy> (and it should probably be marked as !x86_gcc2 in architectures to make sure you don't forget that)[17:57:55] <humdinger> Ace: The current Becasso recipe doesn't include the documentation. you should run Becasso, find out where it expects its docs and copy it there in the recipe.[17:58:06] <Vanisha> Okay , thanks![17:58:16] <Ace> run becasso? how[17:59:39] <humdinger> Ace: when building becasso, you'll find the becasso binary in the work*/*/sources/* folder[18:00:11] <Ace> what is * mean?[18:00:37] <humdinger> I don't know the exact path. but somewhere in the work folder.[18:00:50] <humdinger> you recipe knows where, because it's copying it...[18:03:29] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[18:04:16] *** punsith2 <punsith2!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[18:05:12] <punsith2> what things should i change when converting old haiku application tp haiku[18:06:48] <humdinger> punsith2: layoutmanagment and localization comes to mind.[18:06:52] * humdinger is idle: dinner[18:09:13] <punsith2> i makin achiever to work on haiku , and it complied but not working ,I changed old be locations and parths , but still it isn compres any archieve[18:11:22] <Vidrep> Going back for a moment on the topic of MediaPlayer buttons |< and >|[18:12:04] <Vidrep> It would be nice if these could be used for track selection when playing a audio CD on an optical drive[18:15:06] <punsith2> is any of thies libraries changed recently :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23758921/[18:15:23] <PulkoMandy> Vidrep: that works too, if you add all the tracks to the playlist[18:15:40] <PulkoMandy> (drag the Cd icon into MediaPlayer, rather than opening just one track)[18:16:44] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3329 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/3329[18:18:31] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.71.224.12.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[18:19:07] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[18:20:10] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, that works! However, how intuitive is that feature?[18:20:49] *** vanisha_ <vanisha_!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has joined #haiku[18:20:56] <Vidrep> Normallly one would expect to "open disc" and select tracks[18:21:41] <Vidrep> I could create a MediaPlayer enhancement ticket with reference to the dag and drop feature[18:21:45] *** Vanisha <Vanisha!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:22:01] <Vidrep> drag[18:26:16] <PulkoMandy> Vidrep: this is how MediaPlayer works, but yes, it could be enhanced to work like ShowImage[18:26:30] <PulkoMandy> (where you open an image and it automatically selects next/previous from same Tracker window)[18:26:47] <PulkoMandy> note that if we do this for MediaPlayer, it will also do it for files in a directory (or even inside a query)[18:27:51] <Vidrep> Remember when we discussed doing away with CDPlayer, because we felt that the features could be merged into MediaPlayer?[18:28:47] <Vidrep> In my opinion it would be a worthwhile enhancement. Not sure how much work would be involved though...[18:28:55] *** kneekoo <kneekoo!~Nicu@dslb-094-217-065-020.094.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[18:29:28] <Vidrep> That's the problem with my suggestions. I need somebody else to do the work. Sorry![18:29:44] <PulkoMandy> coming up with good suggestions is part of the work too :)[18:31:15] <Vidrep> Sometimes I feel bad for bring up these things, just because I know there is so much more important (and interesting) work to be dome elsewhere[18:31:42] <Vidrep> *bringing *done[18:32:06] <Vidrep> Anybody know of a good way to clean a sticky keyboard?[18:32:40] <waddlesplash> Vidrep: We already did away with CDPlayer :)[18:33:32] <Vidrep> waddlesplash, yeah I know. The reason was because it didn't support SATA optical drives; only IDE drives with a audio CD cable[18:33:37] <PulkoMandy> Vidrep: disassemble everything, put plastic parts in dishwasher with low temperature program (30/40°C)?[18:33:48] *** punsith2 <punsith2!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:34:22] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, will that also fix my shitty typing skills? :)[18:34:26] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[18:35:04] <waddlesplash> Perelandra: yep, that's how to do it[18:40:36] *** premislaus <premislaus!~premislau@91-233-157-147.interkonekt.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: premislaus)[18:40:55] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-193-39.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[18:41:19] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-193-39.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:43:19] *** vanisha_ <vanisha_!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:45:07] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, currently all MediaPlayer tickets are assigned to stippi. Should I reassign this new one (#13157) or leave it as is?[18:46:20] <Vidrep> I also have another related ticket from 2 1/2 years ago (#11272). Leave it as well?[18:48:25] <Vidrep> Sorry, a mistake on that last comment. It should be ticket #11492.[18:48:35] <PulkoMandy> that doesn't matter much, I think[18:48:48] <PulkoMandy> people can reassign tickets to themselves when they actually work on things[18:50:20] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, if I could, I certainly would do it myself.[18:50:45] <Vidrep> It might be a good GCI task...[18:52:20] <Vidrep> How many weeks (days?) left before GCI concludes?[18:53:04] *** hako <hako!~hako@2a01:388:394:112::1:8> has joined #haiku[18:55:26] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[18:55:58] * humdinger has returned[18:56:28] <humdinger> Vidrep: students can claim until Jan 13th[18:56:56] *** u0_a70 <u0_a70!~u0_a70@125.pool85-56-139.dynamic.orange.es> has joined #haiku[18:57:07] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-185-017.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[18:57:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[18:57:29] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:58:30] *** Ace <Ace!244694ea@gateway/web/freenode/ip.36.70.148.234> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:58:41] <Vidrep> humdinger, I was going through the "Print.." dialog for StyledEdit, Pe, BePDF and Termainal yesterday, looking for inconsistencies.[18:58:53] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[18:59:18] <Vidrep> The olnly way to keep track of it was to draw a flowchart[18:59:46] <humdinger> on the bedroom wall...[18:59:58] <Vidrep> Every one of those apps does the exact same thing in a different way[19:01:03] <Vidrep> Pe, for example, has a completely unnecessary step in the Print dialog, that could be removed[19:02:18] <Vidrep> Looking at all of them at the same time is too much. Better to address each one individually, and keep things consistent[19:03:13] <humdinger> Maybe pick the one that does it best. hen we can see if the other apps can be easily changed to do it like that s well.[19:03:24] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[19:04:00] <Vidrep> In that case, it would be StyledEdit[19:04:32] <humdinger> I'll be doctoring on Vision for a few days at least.[19:05:11] <Vidrep> In each app, the exact same dialog, with the same buttons, has a different dialog/button name.[19:05:58] <humdinger> Really?? I'd have thought that these dialogs come from the print kit et al[19:06:00] <Vidrep> humdinger, it will take me a few days to put it all together into something coherent :)[19:06:11] <humdinger> :)[19:07:27] <Vidrep> "I'd have thought that these dialogs come from the print kit et al" - some of it does (Print job setup), some of it does not (Page setup, paper setup)[19:09:34] <Vidrep> humdinger, I hope the stuff I sent you regarding Vision and Sanity was clear enough[19:09:45] <humdinger> If you say so... but I did these changes to the kit/add-ons/prefs in the trunk, and it seemed to me when testing, that these changes were visible in the GUI (of the apps I checked)[19:10:04] <humdinger> sure. I see the issues in Vision myself...[19:10:16] <humdinger> have to have a closer look at sanity after that[19:11:16] <Vidrep> By the way, BurnItNow is working like a charm, and it looks so much better than before, thanks to all of your work[19:11:36] <humdinger> cool. I'm glad :)[19:12:28] <Vidrep> Über-humdinger![19:12:43] <humdinger> I wish...[19:13:43] <Vidrep> So modest... :D[19:14:21] <humdinger> nah. my limitations are clear to me...[19:17:33] <Vidrep> Insofar as this business with printing, I wish we could get some input from phoudoin. I haven't seen him around lately.[19:18:12] <waddlesplash> Perelandra: very nice![19:18:16] <waddlesplash> I'll squash & merge that now.[19:18:56] <Vidrep> Repos? +1 to what waddlesplash said![19:19:06] <waddlesplash> Vidrep: hm?[19:19:25] <Vidrep> The Depots app[19:19:34] <waddlesplash> well, it's the Repositories app now[19:19:41] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[19:19:49] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@181.41.210.237> has joined #haiku[19:19:49] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@181.41.210.237> has quit IRC (Changing host)[19:19:49] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~clkalw@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has joined #haiku[19:19:51] <waddlesplash> but yes, will be merged in the next few minutes :)[19:21:22] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@host81-159-244-131.range81-159.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[19:22:47] *** u0_a70 <u0_a70!~u0_a70@125.pool85-56-139.dynamic.orange.es> has left #haiku[19:24:03] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@host81-159-244-131.range81-159.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:25:48] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@host81-159-244-131.range81-159.btcentralplus.com> has joined #haiku[19:26:36] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@host81-159-244-131.range81-159.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:28:00] <miqlas> guys, can somebody upload an x86_64 BePDF versioninto the Depot?[19:32:28] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[19:45:09] <waddlesplash> Perelandra: looks like you've got some bits of trailing whitespace - if you're using Pe, you can turn on whitespace trimming in settings[19:45:16] <waddlesplash> it's under "Files" or something[19:46:09] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85bd06.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[19:51:36] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev50835 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=5bf2b6eb74cb+%5E564aac42098c[19:51:36] <HAIKU-irker273> 5bf2b6eb74cb: Add the new Repositories preflet.[19:51:37] * waddlesplash braces for buildbot impact[19:52:29] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:53:42] <waddlesplash> ... Perelandra: you didn't add the preflet to the build, did you :p[19:55:51] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[19:56:13] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[19:57:30] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:00:19] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[20:00:21] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev50836 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=07558eb15277+%5E5bf2b6eb74cb[20:00:22] <HAIKU-irker273> 07558eb15277: build: Add the Repositories preflet to the regular image.[20:03:38] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[20:04:39] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:05:17] <Perelandra> waddlesplash: I had to do what?[20:05:25] <waddlesplash> Perelandra: see that commit I just made ^[20:06:06] <waddlesplash> Perelandra: basically, jam @nightly-cd or @nightly-packages or whatever only will include stuff that is in the overall build - there are a number of things which are not in the build for whatever reason[20:06:13] <waddlesplash> so you have to add new things to the build[20:07:44] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[20:09:30] <Perelandra> Ah, had no idea.[20:10:03] <PulkoMandy> waddlesplash: ... and you did it wrong[20:10:09] <waddlesplash> I did it wrong?[20:10:14] <PulkoMandy> you need to add things to the haiku package, not directly to the image[20:10:29] * waddlesplash crawls into a corner in shame[20:10:47] <PulkoMandy> build/jam/packages/Haiku[20:11:02] <waddlesplash> what's the regular definition file then?[20:11:34] <PulkoMandy> mh... not sure[20:11:36] <waddlesplash> PulkoMandy: uh no I did that right[20:11:37] <waddlesplash> PulkoMandy: AddFilesToPackage preferences : $(SYSTEM_PREFERENCES) ;[20:11:41] <PulkoMandy> do this end into the package?[20:11:47] <PulkoMandy> why is it in the "images" dir then :/[20:11:52] <PulkoMandy> well, whatever[20:11:56] <waddlesplash> SYSTEM_PREFERENCES is what is set in regular defintion file[20:11:59] * waddlesplash crawls out of the corner[20:12:03] <PulkoMandy> ok, my bad[20:13:44] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@p5DC23A63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:17:44] *** petrichorx_ <petrichorx_!uid147077@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pguheoxuzrcjxfzn> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[20:18:37] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.175> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[20:19:34] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:20:06] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@217.112.129.1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:23:41] * Perelandra hears a rustling in the grass. There must be some elvish activity in the area.[20:23:56] *** mikaelj <mikaelj!~mikaelj@c83-248-16-5.bredband.comhem.se> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:29:39] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3063 of haiku-repository-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build <repository>Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_64/builds/3063 blamelist: Brian Hill <supernova at warpmail dot net>, Augustin Cavalier <waddlesplash at gmail dot com>[20:30:24] <waddlesplash> Perelandra: ^ I told you to use std::min and std::max! :p[20:30:48] <waddlesplash> /home/builder/builds/haiku/src/preferences/repositories/RepositoriesView.cpp:110:53: error: 'max' was not declared in this scope[20:30:48] <waddlesplash> fListStatusView->StringWidth(kStatusCompletedText));[20:31:33] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BSr@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[20:32:20] *** BrunoSpr <BrunoSpr!~BSr@dslb-084-056-179-200.084.056.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:32:22] * waddlesplash goes to fix ti[20:33:21] *** Owen <Owen!43a102c0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.161.2.192> has joined #haiku[20:34:05] *** Anarchos <Anarchos!~K@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[20:34:30] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev50837 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1aacfd694057+%5E07558eb15277[20:34:31] <HAIKU-irker273> 1aacfd694057: Repositories: Use std::min and std::max to fix the x86_64 build.[20:34:46] <Anarchos> hi everybody[20:39:42] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has joined #haiku[20:39:47] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3306 of haiku-master-x86_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build <repository>Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_hybrid/builds/3306 blamelist: Brian Hill <supernova at warpmail dot net>, Augustin Cavalier <waddlesplash at gmail dot com>[20:43:31] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[20:45:52] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3347 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed jam @release-raw build <repository>Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/3347 blamelist: Augustin Cavalier <waddlesplash at gmail dot com>[20:48:43] *** Duggan <Duggan!~Duggan@74.243.44.213> has joined #haiku[20:49:02] <Duggan> greetings, earth creatures[21:00:47] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-235-46-52.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:01:04] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-146-215-180.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #haiku[21:01:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[21:03:09] *** oliver__ <oliver__!~oliver@178-83-79-143.dynamic.hispeed.ch> has joined #haiku[21:10:55] <oliver__> /SET hilight_nick_matches_everywhere ON[21:11:11] <oliver__> /SET beep_msg_level MSGS HILIGHT DCCMSGS[21:13:38] *** oliver__ <oliver__!~oliver@178-83-79-143.dynamic.hispeed.ch> has left #haiku[21:18:56] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~John@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[21:18:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[21:20:45] <Duggan> hey Skipp_OSX[21:21:23] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, take a look at this: https://youtu.be/sBr1QvA7yOg[21:21:46] <waddlesplash> Skipp_OSX: nice[21:22:14] <Skipp_OSX> but the leaf menu too wide[21:25:09] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3348 of haiku-master-x86_64 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_64/builds/3348[21:27:14] *** Anarchos <Anarchos!~K@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[21:28:06] <Duggan> Skipp_OSX very nice... I keep mine in the upper right corner though, how does it work for that configuration?[21:28:38] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, same as now[21:29:07] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@208.54.70.198> has joined #haiku[21:29:26] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@208.54.70.198> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:30:22] <Duggan> Skipp_OSX nice :)[21:31:57] <Duggan> I'm working on the parser now... I just noticed a bug in the scanner though so I'll probably have to fix that at some point if I can't find a workaround :P[21:33:11] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, okay, so one way I can solve this is to cap the width like this: https://youtu.be/-1o-X2KXvtU[21:33:20] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3307 of haiku-master-x86_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_hybrid/builds/3307[21:33:51] <Duggan> the bug being that it reports numeric and hex strings as alphanumeric strings :/[21:34:10] <Skipp_OSX> but then it looks funny at large sizes stuck to the bottom of the button[21:34:38] <Duggan> Skipp_OSX yeah, the first way was better... you never know what kinds of resolutions people will use in the future so it might be beneficial to leave it wide[21:38:37] <Skipp_OSX> I think that is true to a point... but not here[21:40:16] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3064 of haiku-repository-x86_64 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_64/builds/3064[21:40:18] <Skipp_OSX> unfortunately I don't have a better solution[21:41:02] <Duggan> it'll work out :)[21:44:39] <Skipp_OSX> I tried caping the width of the menu but allowing the leaf to keep growing but it didn't look good[21:46:04] <Skipp_OSX> while allowing...[21:46:36] <Duggan> doesn't sound like it would... maybe just centre it and be done with it[21:50:21] <Skipp_OSX> yeah I guess that's what I need to do[21:50:51] <Skipp_OSX> but that means I need to replace the vector icon[21:52:10] <Owen> where can i find libxpdf.a?[21:57:07] <Duggan> Skipp_OSX why?[21:57:35] <Skipp_OSX> The leaf is cut off at the bottom in the original[21:59:47] <Owen> nvm. got it[22:00:24] <Duggan> ah I see[22:00:47] <Skipp_OSX> I have the wonderbrush file how do I get that into Icon-O-Matic?[22:00:47] <axeld> Skipp_OSX: I don't think the leaf menu is too wide -- you only really would want to have such large icons, if your resolution is really high, too[22:06:40] <Duggan> or your eyesight is bad[22:07:06] <Duggan> Skipp_OSX you can't, Icon-O-Matic is only for icons, that's a full image[22:07:10] <Duggan> you need wonderbrush[22:07:20] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, I have Wonderbrush installed[22:07:42] <Duggan> I assume that's a full image[22:07:46] <Duggan> hi axeld[22:07:46] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, can I export it to something that Icon-O-Matic can open?[22:08:47] <Duggan> Skipp_OSX I'm not sure... Icon-O-Matic enforces severe limitations on the SVG format so the icons will fit our format[22:09:23] <Duggan> if you want to make an SVG, use Wonderbrush, if you want an icon, use Icon-O-Matic... they're two very different types of files for two very different purposes[22:10:46] <axeld> Hi Duggan[22:11:21] <axeld> Skipp_OSX: I'm almost sure that Wonderbrush supports HVIF[22:12:30] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[22:13:41] <Duggan> wonderbrush is broke on x86_64 :'([22:15:58] <Skipp_OSX> axeld, you would think it would be an option but sadly no[22:17:53] <Skipp_OSX> we need vector translators I guess: SVG, Illustrator, HVIF[22:19:25] <Duggan> IIRC, HVIF support in Wonderbrush was a hidden feature? only developed to get the initial icons into the system until Icon-O-Matic was written?... I don't remember, it was years ago :P[22:27:29] <Vidrep> Anybody else seeing the overlapping text on the Get Info function?[22:28:10] *** DCatt <DCatt!~vision@pool-71-113-21-149.rcmdva.east.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-090423]: i've been blurred!)[22:28:18] <Vidrep> "Permissions" and "Opens with" are overlapping[22:30:11] <Skipp_OSX> Vidrep, yes I do[22:30:26] <Skipp_OSX> Vidrep, it is messed up[22:31:32] <Vidrep> I looked in trac, there's a ticket for it already[22:31:58] <Duggan> Vidrep yep, been fighting that a lot lately[22:32:18] <Vidrep> ...and a patch which needs to be applied https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/12978[22:32:43] <Vidrep> ...after a review, of course[22:36:21] *** dax007 <dax007!dfbe72dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.190.114.221> has joined #haiku[22:36:27] <dax007> hello[22:37:00] <dax007> i just wanted to know a some stuff about magnify[22:37:26] <dax007> what are crosshairs in magnify??[22:40:44] <Skipp_OSX> bbl[22:40:45] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~John@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:41:09] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[22:46:33] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[22:53:09] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[22:53:19] *** dax007 <dax007!dfbe72dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.190.114.221> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[22:56:35] *** prOSy <prOSy!~prOSy@p5B035B5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: conversation terminated)[22:57:09] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.21.90.103> has joined #haiku[22:59:29] <Vidrep> waddlesplash, question about the new "Manage Repositories"[22:59:35] <waddlesplash> mm?[23:00:19] <Vidrep> Currently, I only see the the Haiku and HaikuPorts[23:00:52] <Vidrep> Do we need to manually add the 3rd party repos ourselves, or will a list be pre-loaded?[23:01:12] <Vidrep> Like in the original preflet[23:01:14] <Duggan> Vidrep I think HaikuPorts covers all 3rd party apps, even if they're native[23:01:58] <Vidrep> I'm referring to BeSly, fat Elk etc[23:02:22] <Duggan> oh[23:03:00] *** Termi1878 <Termi1878!5944ecbb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.68.236.187> has joined #haiku[23:03:10] <Termi1878> hello[23:03:12] <Vidrep> Before it was merged into HaikuDepot it had all those 3rd party software sites preloaded[23:03:32] <Duggan> hi Termi1878[23:04:22] <Vidrep> Hi Termi1878[23:06:35] <Termi1878> Can someone tell me what symlink is? I have a problem, because on wiki is "[...]you can then symlink haikuporter so that you can run it from anywhere [...]" and I don't get it[23:06:58] <Termi1878> and when i write in Terminal "haikuporter" this shows me "[Errno -2147459069] No such file or directory: '/Sources/haikuports.git/packages'"[23:08:54] <Vidrep> ln -s /boot/home/haikuporter/haikuporter /boot/home/config/non-packaged/bin/[23:10:37] <Vidrep> That command will link haikuporter to your bin directory and allow you to run haikuporter from any directory[23:10:59] <Termi1878> When i wrote this "ln: failed to create symbolic link '/boot/home/config/non-packaged/bin/haikuporter': File or Directory already exists"[23:11:39] <Duggan> Termi1878 a symlink is like a shortcut in Windows[23:11:46] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.175> has joined #haiku[23:12:55] <waddlesplash> Vidrep: nope, you will have to load your own[23:13:03] <waddlesplash> official Haiku code only references official Haiku repos[23:13:22] <Vidrep> waddlesplash, that's fine. Good to know[23:13:36] <Termi1878> Ohh! Soo, what should I do now? Recipe "hp which" doesn't work[23:14:09] <Termi1878> And I'm stucked[23:15:43] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:15:58] <Vidrep> You have to create a alias. I never use it myself. Usually I type out the full command[23:16:10] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:17:37] <Termi1878> Alias? Hmm.. when I write "haikuporter which" magic happened but something is downloading and unpacking for maybe 15 minutes (before I close that)[23:17:52] <Vidrep> Open a terminal in the haikuports directory: haikuporter -S -j4 --get-dependencies --no-source-packages name-of-package[23:19:14] * Duggan uses -j16, twice his number of cores.[23:19:40] <Termi1878> I have these commands in my profile file function inpatches() { grep -rni $1 ~/haikuports/*/*/patches/*; } function inrecipe() { grep -rni $1 ~/haikuports/*/*/*.recipe; } alias hp="haikuporter -S -j4 --get-dependencies --no-source-packages"application/x-vnd.Be-text_run_array[23:19:59] <Termi1878> without "application/x-vnd.Be-text_run_arrayę[23:20:03] <Vidrep> You need to specify --get-dependencies and --no-source-packages or it will download a whole bunch of source files etc and will take forever[23:20:31] <Termi1878> so what should I write in profile file_[23:20:34] <Termi1878> ?[23:21:25] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.21.90.103> has quit IRC (Quit: Dariost)[23:21:36] <Vidrep> Like I said, I would just open a terminal in haikuports and do this: haikuporter -S -j4 --get-dependencies --no-source-packages which[23:21:37] *** euver <euver!~Thunderbi@p54A28A5E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:22:14] *** Dariost <Dariost!~Dariost@151.21.90.103> has joined #haiku[23:22:39] <Vidrep> waddlesplash is the haikuports and recipe guru :)[23:24:28] <Termi1878> I still have this "[Errno -2147459069] No such file or directory: '/Sources/haikuports.git/packages'"[23:25:21] <Termi1878> I need to build and run with recipe (e.g. which) haikuporter and then provide a copy of the build log (haikuporter output to terminal) and/or a screenshot of the package[23:26:26] <jessicah> Termi1878: uh, in TREEPATH, remove .git from the path?[23:26:35] <jessicah> in your haikuports.conf file[23:26:51] <Duggan> is there a way to make jam completely quiet?[23:26:58] <jessicah> quiet?[23:27:04] <Duggan> yes, produce no output[23:27:11] <Vidrep> Hi jessicah[23:27:44] <Duggan> I wrote a script to do some benchmarks on my thread usage whilst jamming and I'd like the output to not be lost in the jam output[23:28:26] <Termi1878> @jessicah Still "[Errno -2147459069] No such file or directory: '/Sources/haikuports/packages'"[23:29:07] <jessicah> and /Sources/haikuports is where your git clone is?[23:29:17] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@ip68-102-27-241.ks.ok.cox.net> has joined #haiku[23:30:05] <Vidrep> jessicah, I wiped my drive this morning. Now I'm just waiting for tonights nightly build so I can try out your latest/greatest UEFI work[23:30:38] <Termi1878> Well, I dunno where it is. Some tips where it might be?[23:31:08] <Emrys> have you cloned both haikuports and haikuporter though[23:31:11] <jessicah> Duggan: did you try jam >/dev/null 2>/dev/null[23:32:04] <Emrys> check if they're in the Home directory @Termi1878[23:32:34] <jessicah> click on the blue leaf > Find > haikuports[23:33:04] <jessicah> Duggan: cause that seems to work for me here[23:33:11] <jessicah> because*[23:36:09] <Duggan> jessicah I'm not sure if that'll send all output there or not... I'm trying to dump the output to a file with the -o option... we'll see how that goes[23:36:41] <jessicah> it will only send stdout & stderr to /dev/null[23:36:46] <Termi1878> Packages are in /boot/home/haikuports/sys-libs/ncurses/work-6.0/boot/system/documentation/[23:36:59] <Termi1878> I don't know why but they are in this location[23:37:02] <Duggan> jessicah yep that didn't work[23:37:09] <jessicah> didn't work?[23:37:47] <jessicah> Termi1878: so TREEPATH should be /boot/home/haikuports[23:38:52] <Duggan> jessicah no, the -o option didn't work[23:39:00] <Duggan> jessicah do we even have a /dev/null? :P[23:39:04] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@46.108.17.76> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:39:34] <jessicah> on haiku? yes, should do[23:39:59] <Termi1878> Okay, now when i have written "haikuporter" terminal shows me "Checking if any package-infos need to be updated ... Looking for stale dependency-infos ... Error: You need to specify a search string. Error: Invoke './haikuporter -h' for usage information."[23:40:28] <Termi1878> Command "hp" still doesn't work[23:40:51] <jessicah> means you need to specify what you want to build[23:41:07] <jessicah> it's not sufficient to be in the directory[23:41:22] <scottmc> Termi1878, try closing your terminal and then reopen?[23:41:47] <jessicah> Duggan: works here, but you need to put the -o option early[23:42:06] <jessicah> jam -ologfile ... >/dev/null 2>/dev/null[23:42:18] <Termi1878> @scottmc okay, "hp" works. So, should I now write "hp which" if i want to build this recipe?[23:42:25] <jessicah> yes[23:42:35] <scottmc> Termi1878 yup.[23:42:53] <Duggan> I wrote a script that jams twice, once with 16 threads, once with 8 and outputs the time (using the time command)[23:43:04] <scottmc> Termi1878, by closing and reopening the terminal it updated your current profile changes[23:43:22] <scottmc> which should be a quick build iirc[23:43:32] <jessicah> heh, I did jam -j1 and -j4 for haiku_loader.efi; difference of 1 second :p[23:43:44] <Duggan> apparently if you redirect, it redirects the output of the executing command only, not of the keyword time... you have to do some extra trickery to redirect the output of time... so a simple redirect should work[23:44:06] <jessicah> the keyword time?[23:44:17] <Duggan> time <command> outputs the time it takes to execute <command>[23:44:25] <jessicah> right[23:44:43] <Duggan> the keyword "time"[23:45:02] <jessicah> I don't understand[23:46:06] <Duggan> the keyword: "time".... "time" is a specific keyword I'm referring to[23:46:06] <Termi1878> Okay, the recipe has been done, but how can i provide a copy of the build log or screenshot of the package?[23:46:23] <Duggan> it's not a command, it's part of bash[23:46:36] <jessicah> then use /bin/time[23:46:37] <Duggan> or it's a bash command but it's not a program[23:46:39] <jessicah> that's a command[23:46:56] <jessicah> program[23:46:56] <Duggan> yeah, it's not on x86_64 :P I searched for it :P[23:47:34] <Duggan> either way, there's both a bash command and apparently a program and they're different but they do the same thing[23:47:40] <Duggan> either one will work for my purposes[23:48:58] <FlyingJester> which time? I know it's not on Linux, but I'm pretty sure that some setups (busybox, I think?) do have an actual time executable.[23:49:04] <FlyingJester> Like, run `which time`[23:49:28] <jessicah> it's /usr/bin/time on linux[23:49:31] <Duggan> FlyingJester linux has it[23:49:48] <FlyingJester> which time doesn't find anything on VoidLinux.[23:50:50] <Duggan> maybe it's called "Void"Linux for a reason? :P[23:51:06] *** [JJ]Albert <[JJ]Albert!~Albert@2602:306:3bf2:b330:bda3:c8f3:23f:1320> has joined #haiku[23:53:10] <scottmc> Termi1878 you can run "hp which > build.txt"[23:53:11] <FlyingJester> That is a pun, but the `void` is from not having systemd.[23:53:28] <Duggan> apparently /usr/bin/time has more options than the time bash command, but they do the same thing[23:53:30] <scottmc> that will pipe the output into a file instead of the screen[23:54:40] <Termi1878> and where it will be saved?[23:55:14] <FlyingJester> build.txt[23:55:28] <Termi1878> but where this file is saved?[23:55:39] <FlyingJester> In your current working directory.[23:55:47] <Perelandra> waddlesplash: Sorry I had to leave for a bit. Looks like you got the errors resolved?[23:55:48] <FlyingJester> Like, wherever `pwd` says you are.[23:55:59] <waddlesplash> Perelandra: Yeah, I fixed them, they were all trivial[23:56:39] <waddlesplash> Perelandra: Submit a few more well-written patches with good coding style, and I think I could propose you for commit access :)[23:58:12] <Duggan> or do like me and just tell other people how to fix things :P[23:58:58] <Termi1878> but in this file isn't packager name[23:59:10] <waddlesplash> Duggan: Oh, we comitters do that too![23:59:27] <waddlesplash> "BGA's basement" and all that