January 2, 2017 
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January 2, 2017 [00:00:16] <Ace__> ah right, how to make alias, seems that i will need it[00:00:49] <Begasus> for haikuporter?[00:01:38] *** TwoFx <TwoFx!~TwoFx@ip-94-114-81-91.unity-media.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:02:04] <Begasus> ps Ace__ .. do you run the -S option for haikuporter?[00:03:05] <Ace__> yes[00:03:14] <Ace__> use the default alias, so just using hp[00:03:45] <Begasus> ok[00:05:05] <Ace__> still can't use figlet, lol[00:08:09] <Ace__> wow, i can use it[00:08:31] <Ace__> but i must cd until the program location[00:08:48] <Ace__> thanks all[00:09:23] <Begasus> np, but it seems that you installed it into the $appsDir then?[00:10:44] <Ace__> hmm, i installed it into /boot/system/apps[00:10:56] <jessicah> Duggan: not seen that before[00:11:26] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B1517A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[00:11:33] <jessicah> how are you building?[00:11:49] <Ace__> it's done[00:12:04] <jessicah> Ace__: sorry, talking to Duggan :p[00:12:12] <Ace__> okay[00:12:13] <Begasus> it should go into /boot/system/bin Ace__[00:12:16] <Ace__> lol[00:12:20] <Ace__> hmm[00:12:27] <Ace__> so supposedly $binDir?[00:12:32] <Begasus> yep[00:12:33] <jessicah> yeah[00:12:45] <Ace__> hmm, it's okay[00:12:47] <Ace__> lol[00:13:37] <Begasus> $appsDir links to /boot/system/apps or ~/config/apps[00:14:05] <Begasus> $binDir links to /boot/system/bin or ~/config/bin[00:14:06] <Ace__> i see...[00:14:19] <Begasus> deppending on where you install the package :)[00:14:42] <Ace__> with $binDir, i can access it in terminal without going to the location first?[00:14:50] <Begasus> yep[00:15:16] *** Duggan <Duggan!~Duggan@75-120-62-142.dyn.centurytel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[00:15:25] <Ace__> i see...[00:15:26] <Ace__> thank you[00:15:52] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-188-118-171-124.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[00:16:23] <Begasus> np, now going down here, back tomorrow[00:16:26] <Begasus> g'night peeps[00:17:01] <Ace__> g'night[00:18:08] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[00:25:44] *** scottmc <scottmc!~scottmc@c-67-174-194-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[00:28:37] *** Duggan <Duggan!~Duggan@75-120-62-142.dyn.centurytel.net> has joined #haiku[00:28:53] <Duggan> jessicah, must be a bad commit then... it's a fresh clone[00:34:04] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:50:20] *** Muzer <Muzer!~muzer@cpc96772-rdng27-2-0-cust294.15-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:02:51] <jessicah> Duggan: if you're building in haiku without a cross-compiler, there may be a case that's gotten missed somehow[01:03:12] <jessicah> building haiku from haiku doesn't get tested as much, especially x86_64[01:06:44] *** Muzer <Muzer!~muzer@tim32.org> has joined #haiku[01:06:55] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[01:07:30] <Duggan> that's kind of counterintuitive :/[01:10:50] <jessicah> Duggan: it kind of sounds like you may be missing linking against libgcc perhaps[01:11:16] <jessicah> Duggan: do you have the full output?[01:11:19] <Duggan> I cloned, I ran configure, I built[01:11:44] <jessicah> output from jam[01:11:54] <Duggan> yeah, from the last build[01:11:58] <jessicah> so can see full errors[01:12:21] <jessicah> you're building x86_64 on x86_64 haiku build, right?[01:12:27] <Duggan> affirmative[01:19:18] *** raefaldhia <raefaldhia!b4f5633e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.245.99.62> has joined #haiku[01:20:15] *** Ace__ <Ace__!ca3e10f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.62.16.244> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:20:35] <jessicah> Duggan: what target are you using?[01:21:04] <jessicah> @nightly-anyboot? @nightly-raw? something else entirely?[01:24:02] <jessicah> Duggan: nevermind, I see the error here too already[01:30:14] <jessicah> Duggan: hmm, weird, libgcc seems broken[01:32:16] <ohnx> how do i compile a combined version of haiku?[01:32:28] <jessicah> combined?[01:32:34] <ohnx> like gcc2 and gcc5[01:32:48] <jessicah> Duggan: hmm, no, libgcc seems same with my cross-compiler...[01:33:17] <jessicah> if you're building on a haiku hybrid, then ./configure without args will set up same as host[01:33:29] <ohnx> i'm building on ubuntu[01:33:48] <jessicah> if you're cross-building, then ./configure --build-cross-tools x86_gcc2 ../path/to/cross-tools --build-cross-tools x86[01:34:00] <jessicah> that will build a gcc2h image[01:34:13] <jessicah> if you want gcc5h, swap x86_gcc2 & x86 around[01:34:35] <Emrys> hello, ohnx[01:34:47] <jessicah> Duggan: ah, found the problem... let me see if can fix[01:34:50] <ohnx> hey Emrys did you want me for something?[01:35:20] <Emrys> well some of us were wondering where you left to[01:35:21] <jessicah> bah, the 32-bit libgcc.a is missing[01:35:39] <ohnx> oh i was busy with school and sleeping >.>[01:35:40] <ohnx> back now[01:35:43] <Emrys> you and wdurand both[01:35:46] <ohnx> wanted to try out the efi task[01:35:56] <Emrys> nice, wb[01:35:56] <ohnx> wmdurand i think has uni apps?[01:35:59] <Stephanie> Oh hai ohnx[01:36:03] <ohnx> heyo Stephanie[01:36:07] <jessicah> there's an EFI task?[01:36:15] <Stephanie> Yeah wmdurand has one heck of an application plate[01:36:30] <jessicah> Duggan: well, unfortunately, for now you're going to need to build the cross tools[01:36:36] <ohnx> not really, jessicah[01:36:37] <ohnx> https://codein.withgoogle.com/tasks/5709557686861824/?sp-organization=5761416665497600[01:36:53] <Emrys> ah well then it's no surprise he went on hiatus[01:37:16] <jessicah> Duggan: the gcc package needs to be updated to include 32-bit libgcc.a & friends, as the bootloader has to be built for 32-bit[01:38:39] <jessicah> ohnx: oh, I see... hmm[01:38:51] <jessicah> I actually already have the recipe, I just forgot to add to upstream[01:40:03] <ohnx> oh[01:40:05] <ohnx> lol[01:40:16] <ohnx> easy as pie then c:[01:40:38] <jessicah> it's around somewhere...[01:40:48] <jessicah> let me see if I can find it[01:58:59] <ohnx> 3 tb of files to sort through[02:02:03] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev50817 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=30f554d4643f+%5Ee1304871bb53[02:02:04] <HAIKU-irker273> 30f554d4643f: Make it a bit easier to skip first boot prompt[02:06:49] <jessicah> bah, it's probably in the image file I created, 90GB[02:09:40] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!~dario@181.47.131.175> has joined #haiku[02:10:36] <Duggan> jessicah, sorry I was away from the computer for a while as I'm sure you saw...[02:10:49] <Duggan> glad it's not just me... I'll get with you on it later, but for now I need to go[02:11:03] *** Duggan <Duggan!~Duggan@75-120-62-142.dyn.centurytel.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[02:11:44] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~John@71-212-100-177.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[02:11:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[02:25:54] <jessicah> ubuntu vm with smb share to my nas, running qemu with raw disk image to file on share, to access my archived BFS data... zomg[02:26:16] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@qubcpq0940w-lp130-03-70-31-237-60.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #haiku[02:26:25] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@qubcpq0940w-lp130-03-70-31-237-60.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:26:50] *** Mict <Mict!~Mict@46-163-218-206.blcnet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:28:45] <jessicah> ohnx: http://sprunge.us/NLPC :p[02:28:59] <ohnx> lol[02:29:16] <ohnx> you send the PR, it's yopur code[02:29:29] <jessicah> when you git commit, use --author="Jessica Hamilton <jessica.l.hamilton at gmail dot com" --signoff[02:29:43] <ohnx> brackets around the end, right?[02:30:16] <jessicah> that gives author attribution to me, and --signoff says you reviewed, fixed up anything necessary, etc.[02:30:21] <jessicah> yeah, missing >[02:30:57] <jessicah> e.g. you can probably go find the actual years for the copyright statement, etc.[02:31:40] <jessicah> make sure it passes the haikuporter -S strict checking/linting, etc. :)[02:31:48] <jessicah> so you actually do *some* work :p[02:32:35] <jessicah> it's painful using haiku in qemu running inside a ubuntu vm... :p[02:32:45] <jessicah> esp without kvm[02:33:57] <jrabbit> ouch[02:34:43] <jessicah> I'm going to go rest for a bit :)[02:35:00] <jessicah> pretty sure the copyright needs more work; I was lazy writing the recipe[02:35:08] <jessicah> so yeah, just validate that everything is correct[02:36:14] <FlyingJester> That's how I've run Haiku for a long time. Really makes you appreciate the better performing programs :P[02:36:39] *** Ace__ <Ace__!ca3e11ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.62.17.206> has joined #haiku[02:36:49] <FlyingJester> Although the depot is catastrophically slow compared to the rest of the system like that.[02:37:22] <jessicah> I'm so exhausted[02:37:56] <jessicah> launching Terminal takes a while to get to the bash prompt[02:54:44] *** raefaldhia <raefaldhia!b4f5633e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.245.99.62> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[03:03:46] <mmu_man> zz[03:06:11] <FreeFull> Why inside an Ubuntu VM? For building?[03:09:14] <FlyingJester> Wait, inside a VM in Ubuntu, or in a VM inside an Ubuntu VM?[03:14:06] <Stephanie> When building with hp on gcc2 hybrid, adding _x86 should make it build on x86 arch right?[03:22:11] <ohnx> uhh _64[03:22:46] <ohnx> wait nvm[03:29:25] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[03:42:00] *** Ace__ <Ace__!ca3e11ce@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.62.17.206> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[03:54:14] *** Emrys_ <Emrys_!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[03:54:44] <ohnx> for some reason, haikuporter does not seem to like tarballs[03:55:23] <Stephanie> haikuporter does fine with tarballs for me[03:55:54] <ohnx> weird[03:56:17] <ohnx> ah ik now i think[03:57:16] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[03:57:37] <ohnx> i set the source dir wrong[04:01:11] <jrabbit> does pip know how haiku works?[04:01:23] <jrabbit> It seems to have some rough edges but i'm using the latest pip[04:04:57] <jrabbit> oh lord easy_install works[04:04:59] <jrabbit> smh[04:13:24] <jrabbit> oh ipython... doesn't seem to be happy[04:13:42] <jrabbit> https://travis-ci.org/jrabbit/haiku-cnf/builds[04:14:30] *** rtcoder <rtcoder!~rohan@c-24-4-179-69.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[04:15:40] <rtcoder> When running ./config --build-cross-tools, do you specify x86_64 as the <arch> if the system you are running is 64 bit or if you are compiling Haiku for 64-bit CPU?[04:16:53] *** Emrys_ <Emrys_!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:23:06] <jessicah> if you are compiling for 64-bit[04:24:08] <jessicah> qemu was running inside a vm with ubuntu installed... host is windows[04:24:26] <jessicah> oh he's not even here[04:25:25] <jessicah> FreeFull: why? it's faster[04:25:47] <jessicah> builds cross tools in about 7 minutes[04:28:32] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!~dario@181.47.131.175> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:34:43] *** scottmc <scottmc!~scottmc@c-67-174-194-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[04:35:07] *** Emrys <Emrys!~emrys@92.87.13.132> has joined #haiku[04:36:20] <Emrys> ok so several of the newest published "fix a recipe" tasks miss details and i'm adding them now. which cnf should be updated for the task? i found both cnf and command not found in the repo and task..[04:36:21] *** duvjones <duvjones!~duvjones@172-97-241-184.cpe.distributel.net> has joined #haiku[04:36:36] <Emrys> from dev-python or app-shells?[04:37:08] <Emrys> most likely the first one[04:45:53] <scottmc> Emrys the cnf I was thinking of was the one jrabbit worked on, written in python[04:46:14] <Emrys> yeah, i saw it's missing some things[04:46:17] <Emrys> i added that one[04:50:49] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:186a:e60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:52:37] *** duvjones <duvjones!~duvjones@172-97-241-184.cpe.distributel.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Time to.... bye.)[04:55:55] <ohnx> if there are multiple copyrights for a certain app, how can i mention this in the copyright section of a recipe?[04:58:12] <jrabbit> yeah cnf is in the repo twice[04:58:17] <Emrys> here it says you need to write one copyright per line https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/wiki/HaikuPorter-BuildRecipes#copyright[04:59:24] <Emrys> ohnx, ^[05:00:46] <Emrys> jrabbit, so should the task be to update both?[05:01:13] <jrabbit> one is mroe complete/accurate iirc[05:01:21] <jrabbit> but cnf is broken right now[05:01:29] <ohnx> hmm haikudepot only has 1 line showing[05:04:45] <Emrys> ohnx, found a recipe with multiple lines https://goo.gl/3nyOVK[05:05:45] <Emrys> jrabbit, i'll add them both in the task to be sure[05:26:02] <ohnx> hey jessicah it's pretty much done :p[05:40:19] <jrabbit> Emrys: sounds good yeah i dont know why its duplicated[05:42:07] *** scottmc <scottmc!~scottmc@c-67-174-194-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[05:46:06] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - 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(just build it in Terminal en installed it with DESTDIR to check)[10:37:47] *** ADS_Sr_ <ADS_Sr_!~ADS_Sr@cpe-173-175-17-54.hot.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[10:38:05] *** ADS_Sr <ADS_Sr!~ADS_Sr@cpe-173-175-17-54.hot.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[10:38:12] *** ADS_Sr_ is now known as ADS_Sr[10:40:20] <jessicah> that doesn't really look right to me[10:40:40] <jessicah> anything underneath .self is packaged as far as I understand it[10:43:54] <Begasus> yeah, but this is not build with a recipe so far[10:50:16] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[10:51:24] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has joined #haiku[10:52:18] <Begasus> looks like it want's to install them into non-packaged folder, should ok for no?[10:59:42] <jessicah> I don't know[11:07:34] <Begasus> just installed it with make install (files are installed in /system/non-packaged/*), I'm able to build frozen-bubble atleast now :)[11:11:52] <Begasus> you may need to install the Locale::gettext module ...[11:42:44] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[12:06:11] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@223.190.74.188> has joined #haiku[12:06:36] <HaikuUser2> hello[12:07:19] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@223.190.74.188> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:28:00] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:a5ef:f158:bf3c:6c60:4d80> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[12:28:21] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@c-107-4-88-107.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[12:34:50] *** Vanisha <Vanisha!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has joined #haiku[12:36:11] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[12:41:25] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[12:43:54] *** Vanisha 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(for sdl_perl)[13:37:15] *** rarila <rarila!~rarila@dslb-084-057-069-182.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[13:39:21] <Karmanya> when i run the source file from terminal by gcc -o main ReturnOne.cpp , nothing shows up[13:43:05] <Begasus> not familiar with hard coding Karmanya, sorry[13:47:23] <Not-8398> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 2 commits to master [+4/-4/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/086517cc4964...52c64462535b[13:47:25] <Not-8398> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 311c0fa - flac: bump version.[13:47:26] <Not-8398> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 52c6446 - zlib: bump version.[13:54:10] <Karmanya> anyone?[13:55:49] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:56:28] <Not-8398> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/52c64462535b...7c38b971180e[13:56:30] <Not-8398> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 7c38b97 - sdl_pango: new recipe (#979)[13:56:53] <Begasus> nice, commited the latst changes just in time :)[13:57:27] * Begasus strikes sdl_pango from the list of todo :D[13:58:07] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@212.69.17.18> has joined #haiku[13:58:07] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@212.69.17.18> has quit IRC (Changing host)[13:58:07] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has joined #haiku[14:02:01] *** rarila <rarila!~rarila@dslb-084-057-069-182.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has left #haiku[14:10:33] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:186a:e60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has joined #haiku[14:17:51] *** moochris <moochris!~vision@cpc83559-brig19-2-0-cust1937.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #haiku[14:24:18] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[14:29:12] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[14:37:31] <mikedld|_> jessicah: sorry for bugging you but is there a chance that you looked into that lseek issue? it's not at all critical, only the unit test is failing here (it's file test from transmission package if you're interested)[14:39:09] <mikedld|_> well, it could be critical for other software, but not for transmission it seems[14:42:20] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[14:44:20] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[14:44:41] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[14:45:51] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has joined #haiku[14:47:53] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~Perelandr@h69-130-75-184.nansme.broadband.dynamic.tds.net> has joined #haiku[14:54:37] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~Perelandr@h69-130-75-184.nansme.broadband.dynamic.tds.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[14:55:47] *** Perelandra <Perelandra!~Perelandr@h69-130-75-184.nansme.broadband.dynamic.tds.net> has joined #haiku[15:00:49] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[15:05:39] <punsith> how to extract a string from a BTextView[15:05:47] *** moochris <moochris!~vision@cpc83559-brig19-2-0-cust1937.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[15:10:52] *** petrichorx <petrichorx!uid147077@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-duwubaujneriypwy> has joined #haiku[15:12:09] <punsith> is it possible :/[15:26:53] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[15:32:17] *** Ace__ <Ace__!244f75d6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.36.79.117.214> has joined #haiku[15:35:46] <jessicah> Karmanya: what do you mean there is no output?[15:36:14] *** andrewz <andrewz!4a4b0cb6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.75.12.182> has joined #haiku[15:36:23] <jessicah> mikedld|_: sorry, no, not at present[15:37:17] <jessicah> Karmanya: many terminal commands produce no visible messages on success[15:38:19] <jessicah> you can type ls to view the contents of the current directory[15:39:12] <jessicah> punsith: uh, Text() I think?[15:39:56] <jessicah> you should read the documentation at api.haiku-os.org :p[15:41:03] <punsith> okay , I thought it is like GetText because SetText can change the text but wont work[15:43:20] <jessicah> GetText may work too[15:43:57] <jessicah> but you need to preallocate your array if you use that[15:45:04] <punsith> then error came "no matching funtion to call to "BStringView :: GerText(BString &)"[15:45:58] <jessicah> like char *text = (char*)malloc(textView->TextLength());[15:47:36] <jessicah> textView->GetText(0, textView->TextLength(), text);[15:48:04] <jessicah> well, int32 length = …[15:48:23] <jessicah> then use length in the two lines above[15:48:40] <Ace__> how to submit my work as a pull request to haiports github?[15:50:04] <jessicah> otherwise, const char *text = textView->Text();[15:50:38] <jessicah> you should be able to use a BString too if you wish[15:51:36] <punsith> okay @jessicah :) Thank you[15:51:53] <jessicah> Ace__: uh, first you need to create a branch locally, if you haven't done so[15:52:10] <Ace__> hmm, okay, then??[15:52:16] <jessicah> you also need to fork the repo on github[15:52:44] <jessicah> then you need a remote to your fork[15:53:03] <jessicah> then you push your branch to your fork[15:53:45] <jessicah> then on github, use the dropdown box to switch to your branch[15:53:56] *** arroyoc <arroyoc!~Thunderbi@46.136.225.153> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[15:54:17] <jessicah> and then a button will appear to create a pull request[15:54:38] <Ace__> fork the repo? how??[15:54:59] <jessicah> am on my phone atm, so sorry I'm not more explicit[15:55:30] <jessicah> go to github.com/haikuports/haikuports[15:55:42] <jessicah> then click the fork button[15:55:53] <jessicah> you need to be logged in[15:56:36] <jessicah> this will create haikuports under your user account[15:58:38] *** arroyoc <arroyoc!~Thunderbi@46.136.225.153> has joined #haiku[16:02:11] <jessicah> Ace__: also see https://help.github.com/articles/fork-a-repo/[16:02:40] <Ace__> hmm, okay[16:02:43] <Ace__> thanks, i will try[16:02:50] <jessicah> and the other articles linked further down about branches and pull requests[16:03:08] <jessicah> their documentation is usually quite good[16:04:15] <Begasus> also if you change something in the source of haikuports (or the app) create a branch for it :)[16:04:20] <jessicah> if you've already cloned, then compared to their example, origin will equal upstream[16:04:21] <Begasus> re[16:04:53] <jessicah> and you'd add a remote for your repo instead[16:05:36] <jessicah> which you could call self or mine or whatever you find useful[16:05:53] <jessicah> then you'd push to your remote instead[16:06:16] <Ace__> hmm, what is remote... can't find it... lol[16:06:55] <jessicah> did you read the help I linked?[16:07:41] <jessicah> also, maybe Begasus can help you further?[16:07:52] <jessicah> I'm super tired ;([16:08:53] <Begasus> not the best in git, but I could try (although edgar is initializing, so can't acces web quickly enough atm)[16:10:38] <Ace__> i'm still reading it now[16:12:24] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[16:13:40] <Begasus> I also think there is a task in how to work with haikuports in GCI?[16:16:27] <Begasus> on a sidenote, finaly got our first snow here, dogs love it :)[16:17:07] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:18:50] <jessicah> it's like 4am here, the beginning of day 3 without sleep[16:19:24] <Begasus> jikes jessicah, take some time off :)[16:20:13] <punsith> begasus still no snow here[16:20:29] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[16:20:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[16:22:33] <ohnx> jessicah: why no sleep? you haven't slept since last year?[16:25:19] <tojoko> oO[16:27:17] *** Karmanya <Karmanya!3d035086@gateway/web/freenode/ip.61.3.80.134> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[16:30:18] <Ace__> hmm, i need to clone all of the file insinde haikuports?[16:34:17] <ohnx> ie, `git clone https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports --depth 1`[16:37:53] <Ace__> hmm, is it a must to clone it?[16:39:15] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@94.53.224.14> has joined #haiku[16:42:58] *** HaikuUser is now known as Dane__[16:43:10] <Dane__> Boinggggg[16:43:17] <Dane__> Happy New Year everybody.[16:44:09] <jessicah> Ace__: yes[16:44:15] <jessicah> Dane__: happy new year :)[16:44:18] <jessicah> ohnx: yup[16:44:40] <jessicah> pharmacy is closed, need my medication[16:45:29] <jessicah> should be able to get in ~29 hours... >_<[16:45:59] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[16:46:07] <Dane__> jessicah Bummer :-([16:46:49] <tojoko> thanks dane, happy new year 2 u 2. :)[16:46:55] <Begasus> Dane__! HNY! :)[16:47:21] <tojoko> jessicah, that sounds bad - well, sometimes esspresso helps me to find sleep. although that might sound weired.[16:48:45] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[16:49:00] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[16:49:22] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@ip-109-45-0-163.web.vodafone.de> has joined #haiku[16:49:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[16:50:05] *** xdizzaster_ <xdizzaster_!~xdizzaste@94.53.224.14> has joined #haiku[16:50:06] *** xdizzaster_ <xdizzaster_!~xdizzaste@94.53.224.14> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:50:39] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@94.53.224.14> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[16:51:58] <jessicah> I don't drink coffee[16:52:37] <tojoko> well, i'm sorry for u, i wish i could help - but i gotta go now anyhow.[16:54:16] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@94.53.224.14> has joined #haiku[16:55:01] <jessicah> it's all good; I'll crash on wednesday, and things will sort itself out :)[16:58:28] <tojoko> good luck.[16:58:30] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B150A9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:59:21] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto@apn-95-41-58-255.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:05:25] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@94.53.224.14> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[17:08:30] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: GeneralDuke)[17:11:38] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto@apn-46-77-152-230.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #haiku[17:13:52] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d854329.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[17:13:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[17:20:02] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@ip-109-45-0-163.web.vodafone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: stippi)[17:20:35] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@212.69.17.18> has joined #haiku[17:20:35] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@212.69.17.18> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:20:35] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has joined #haiku[17:26:16] <Ace__> hmm, so i already make a remote using $ git remote add upstream https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports, then what? i'm confused[17:27:05] *** Stephanie <Stephanie!~Stephanie@ip68-102-27-241.ks.ok.cox.net> has joined #haiku[17:28:47] <humdinger> Ace__: did you read https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/wiki/DevelopmentModel[17:33:14] <ohnx> morining, Stephanie[17:33:29] <Stephanie> Gooooood morning[17:33:59] <punsith> good morning[17:35:29] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p5DE538B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:35:40] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p5DE538B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[17:36:26] <Begasus> g'evening Stephanie[17:36:58] <Stephanie> Hi Begasus![17:38:11] <Begasus> looked at the pr?[17:38:52] <Stephanie> Yup - making changes right now. I was wondering, why is the SOURCE_DIR not needed here?[17:39:29] <Begasus> as the name of the archive is the same as the recipe name :)[17:39:42] <Stephanie> Oh ok[17:40:25] <Begasus> for instance Freeciv.tgz is not the same as freeciv.tgz then you need to declare it[17:41:48] <Stephanie> Learned something new :D[17:41:52] <Begasus> if you still have the build make around you don't need to build the whole tree again, you can skip that part by passing "-F" to hp[17:42:01] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[17:44:09] <Begasus> these are just recipe changes, no structural changes to the source, so you could skip that part :)[17:44:41] <Stephanie> So I use -F if I've already built the recipe before?[17:45:08] <Begasus> yep (that is if you haven't cleaned it before with the "-c" option)[17:45:37] <Ace__> yes humdinger[17:46:21] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.69.37.144.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[17:46:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[17:46:32] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:46:43] <humdinger> Ace__: what's the confusion specifically?[17:48:30] *** e1z0 <e1z0!u571@88.216.80.57> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:52:30] <ohnx> ayy jessicah i made the commit[17:53:01] <ohnx> https://github.com/ohnx/haikuports/commit/82b098681d122997afdb4f0e48f1efe960040377[17:57:02] <Begasus> humdinger![17:57:11] <Begasus> question :)[17:57:12] <humdinger> hey Begasus![17:57:53] <Begasus> maybe you've seen my reviews on the freeciv pr, woulld it be better to just have Freeciv in $appsDir instead of $appsDir/Freeciv/ ?[17:58:15] <Begasus> think it's a bit odd as there are no other binaries in there[17:58:35] <humdinger> if it's the single file in that subfolder, we don't need it.[17:58:42] <humdinger> are there other files in there?[17:58:54] <Begasus> nope, just freeciv binary[17:59:04] <humdinger> ok. then: no :)[17:59:19] <Begasus> also thought it would be off to have a subfolder with just one binary :)[17:59:45] <Begasus> probably some herritage from the past :)[18:00:24] <humdinger> yes. one philosophy is to have all the apps directly in $appsDir and spread everything else to $docsDir, $dataDir etc.[18:00:25] <Ace__> push remote??[18:00:52] <ohnx> no[18:00:54] <ohnx> you need a fork[18:01:04] <humdinger> Begasus: I used to be for everything in aa subfolder in $appsDir but recently I've had doubts...[18:01:33] <Begasus> it's an old discussion humdinger, but in this case it would be correct[18:01:59] <humdinger> in this case definitely[18:02:25] <Ace__> hmm, i already fork haikuports github[18:03:11] <ohnx> ah then you add your fork as the remote[18:03:49] <Begasus> in your own fork check with "git remote -v" Ace__[18:03:54] <ohnx> `git remote set-url origin https://github.com/<your username here>/haikuports`[18:04:07] <ohnx> then `git push -u origin master`[18:04:51] <Ace__> in gitbash right?[18:06:09] <ohnx> uhh yes[18:06:32] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[18:11:10] <Ace__> hmm, seems i put a wrong remote command[18:11:17] <Ace__> how to remove remote[18:12:39] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@94.53.224.14> has joined #haiku[18:13:52] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:14:01] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[18:15:13] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@94.53.224.14> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:15:17] <Begasus> https://help.github.com/articles/removing-a-remote/[18:15:36] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@94.53.224.14> has joined #haiku[18:16:50] <Begasus> Stephanie ... any progress? (heading out in a bit <ny drink>) :)[18:17:35] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@94.53.224.14> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:17:57] <Stephanie> Begasus: I made the changes, am building to double check that everything workd[18:18:06] <Stephanie> Freeciv... takes a while... XD[18:18:08] <Begasus> ok +1[18:18:34] <Begasus> right, that's why I didn't delete it with the -c option to check upcomming changes :)[18:20:31] *** Guest16489 <Guest16489!~VERITAS@c213-89-15-228.bredband.comhem.se> has joined #haiku[18:23:01] *** skbot7841 <skbot7841!~soakbot@ec2-184-73-62-195.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:23:18] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-92-137-84.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #haiku[18:23:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[18:23:29] *** Guest16489 is now known as _VERITAS[18:24:46] *** _VERITAS <_VERITAS!~VERITAS@c213-89-15-228.bredband.comhem.se> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:26:13] <Ace__> okay, i already add my remote[18:26:19] <Ace__> hmm, then...[18:26:29] <Begasus> k .. will check later Stephanie, cu later all :)[18:26:45] *** Begasus is now known as Begas_afk[18:31:52] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:37:43] *** petrichorx <petrichorx!uid147077@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-duwubaujneriypwy> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[18:42:51] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@p5DE538B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:44:11] <Perelandra> A question for anyone who has worked on the servers. How do you bypass one of the /boot/system/servers and have Haiku use one you have modified to be able to test it?[18:50:56] *** ADS_Sr <ADS_Sr!~ADS_Sr@cpe-173-175-17-54.hot.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:51:51] <Ace__> how to know package content?[18:51:52] *** Tsesarevich <Tsesarevich!sid83162@fluxbuntu/founder/joejaxx> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:54:38] *** arroyoc <arroyoc!~Thunderbi@46.136.225.153> has quit IRC (Quit: arroyoc)[18:55:33] <Perelandra> ACE__ are you talking about seeing the contents of an hpkg file? You can right click and use the "Open with..." menu to choose Expander.[18:56:39] *** Ace__ <Ace__!244f75d6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.36.79.117.214> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:57:12] <humdinger> Perelandra: Hi. you can put the server in the non-packaged hierarchy and blacklist the system's server.[18:57:18] <humdinger> does require a reboot though[19:01:01] <Perelandra> Hi Humdinger! I will try that. I thought I had read something about that for drivers, just found the instructions in the guides.[19:01:31] <humdinger> should work with everything.[19:01:38] <humdinger> you can do it also from the boot options,[19:01:54] <humdinger> if you don't want to have it "fixed" for every bootup[19:02:01] *** Ace__ <Ace__!b4f3d6bf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.243.214.191> has joined #haiku[19:02:24] <Ace__> hello, how to know package content?[19:03:50] <humdinger> "package list {your-packagename}" works[19:04:01] <Ace__> thanks, hahaha[19:04:01] <humdinger> or doubleclick to open in HaikuDepot[19:04:22] <humdinger> that won't show all info though, just the files inside[19:05:07] <Ace__> so, better use terminal?[19:05:25] *** Perelandra <Perelandra!~Perelandr@h69-130-75-184.nansme.broadband.dynamic.tds.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[19:05:32] <humdinger> a matter of taste..[19:05:41] <humdinger> you cn also open in Expander.[19:06:08] <humdinger> Terminal is nicer, because you can copy & paste from it e.g.[19:06:30] <Ace__> hmm, wanna copy it to submit as review in gci[19:07:21] * humdinger is idle: BRB[19:07:21] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d854329.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[19:08:19] *** Tsesarevich <Tsesarevich!sid83162@fluxbuntu/founder/joejaxx> has joined #haiku[19:10:00] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[19:11:29] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d854329.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[19:11:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[19:20:42] *** Vanisha <Vanisha!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has joined #haiku[19:20:50] <Not-8398> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/7c38b971180e...9ecedd74ad04[19:20:51] <Not-8398> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb 9ecedd7 - New recipe vor BurnItNow v1.1[19:21:51] <humdinger> great type...[19:21:58] <humdinger> typo, dammit[19:23:25] <HAIKU-irker273> haiku.master: humdinger * hrev50818 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=096d1a4e6a9f+%5E30f554d4643f[19:23:26] <HAIKU-irker273> 4d23ea8e8161: Fix css for userguide and welcome page[19:23:27] <HAIKU-irker273> 096d1a4e6a9f: Update BurnItNow to v1.1[19:29:39] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!6cad3e40@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.173.62.64> has joined #haiku[19:29:42] <Vidrep> Hi[19:30:30] <humdinger> Hi![19:30:37] <Vanisha> Hi[19:30:43] <humdinger> I totally bungled the v1.0 release[19:30:47] <Ace__> hi[19:31:22] <Vidrep> humdinger, I saw the commit. Good stuff[19:31:30] <humdinger> Vidrep: after I tagged v1.0, I discovered that haikuporter puts the documentation at another location than I expected...[19:31:57] <Vidrep> Like I commented in my email?[19:31:57] <humdinger> ThenI had to fix the path in the source, therefore v1.1 10 miutes later...[19:32:49] <Vidrep> We may have these incremental updates or fixes from time to time[19:33:15] <humdinger> no. not really. I thought I could put the docs into /system/documentation/BurnItNow,[19:33:35] <humdinger> but haikuporter puts it into /system/documentation/packages/burnitnow/...[19:33:58] <humdinger> Now I realize, that the About still says v1.0...[19:34:01] * humdinger sighs[19:34:09] <humdinger> doesn't matter[19:34:16] <jessicah> lol[19:34:26] <humdinger> col[19:34:30] * humdinger cries out loud[19:34:44] <Vidrep> I've been updating Windows 7 for the past 2 hours. Every time I do it, it makes me appreciate the Haiku pkgman that much more - 10 minutes at most[19:35:05] <jessicah> windows updates are terrible[19:35:40] <Vidrep> Windows updates us[19:36:34] <Vidrep> Windows updates is the worst. Failed updates, Windows Genuine bs, and just the bloat[19:37:44] *** Dane__ <Dane__!~vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:38:09] <Vidrep> Haiku development really needs to think bigger than just a hobby OS, but as a viable Windows alternative[19:39:34] <Vidrep> Time, $$$, and manpower are against Haiku unfortunately[19:39:34] <humdinger> can't be done with 20 active devs. and if we become 200, it'll go into that direction by itself[19:40:55] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-193-39.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[19:41:28] <Vidrep> humdinger, does that mean there will be a BurnITNow v1.2 ?[19:41:30] <jessicah> I think bigger than just a hobby OS[19:42:11] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~john@173-14-248-42-washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #haiku[19:42:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[19:42:24] <humdinger> Vidrep: not yet planned on my side. you mean because of the wron version numbe rin the about?[19:42:26] <jessicah> I always want it to be something I can use on a daily basis[19:42:47] <Vidrep> Every dev has a different opinion of how they perceive Haiku.[19:42:53] <humdinger> ha, just thought of it: there's the wrong version number in the rdef as well. :)[19:42:54] <jessicah> and I always want it to be something I can get other people to use[19:43:55] <jessicah> but yes, some of the devs don't have that sort of mindset at all[19:44:05] <Skipp_OSX> humdinger, you should have pushed your latest changes in 2 commits so they could be reverted individually if needed[19:44:08] <Vidrep> I'm getting off this iPad. bbl[19:44:14] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!6cad3e40@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.173.62.64> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[19:44:26] <jessicah> Skipp_OSX: they are two commits[19:44:34] <Skipp_OSX> oh yeah I see that now, sorry :/[19:44:40] <humdinger> Skipp_OSX: /My/ commits don't get reverted. :P[19:44:42] <humdinger> :D[19:44:47] <Skipp_OSX> humdinger, :)[19:45:02] <humdinger> (because they are to inconsequential)[19:45:06] <humdinger> *so[19:45:12] <humdinger> and I can't type...[19:48:53] <Ace__> humdinger, can u help me check my task in gci?[19:51:55] <humdinger> I'm not much of a porter... but at least the man pages seem to be in the wrong location in the app's folder.[19:52:36] <humdinger> also, being a CLI app, is $appsDir the right folder? I'd say $binDir[19:52:47] <Ace__> where should it be?[19:53:00] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:53:01] <Ace__> hmm, i'm using $binDir, but got an error[19:53:28] <humdinger> maybe fix the error instead :)[19:56:28] <humdinger> Ace__: you have to add all the binaries that are part of the package under PROVIDES[19:56:39] <Ace__> all $appsDir, change to $binDir?[19:56:58] <Ace__> add the binaries?[19:57:07] <humdinger> I only see $binDir in the recipe...[19:57:29] <humdinger> things like figlist, chkfont etc.[19:57:40] <Ace__> hmm[19:57:44] <Ace__> i'm confused, lol[19:57:52] <humdinger> and put a "cmd:" in front, if they end up in $binDir[19:58:24] <Ace__> i will try it[20:00:39] *** Perelandra <Perelandra!~Perelandr@h69-130-75-184.nansme.broadband.dynamic.tds.net> has joined #haiku[20:02:37] <Ace__> hmm, my recipe in github passed the check...[20:03:30] <humdinger> Ace__: the MANDIR should point to $manDir, not $bindir/figlet/share/man[20:03:57] <humdinger> it's formally correct, but the package is really working[20:05:37] <humdinger> Ace__: better wait for fbrosson to comment on your PR or someone...[20:05:58] <humdinger> I'm not sure where the man pages should go exactly, e.g.[20:06:12] <humdinger> or if it's OK to have the commands in a subfolder in $binDir.[20:06:34] <Ace__> hmm, it runs well in terminal[20:06:40] <Ace__> cause already install it[20:06:52] <humdinger> does "man figlet" work too?[20:07:06] <humdinger> doesn't matter really.[20:07:10] <Ace__> man figlet?[20:07:15] <humdinger> we have a fixed location for man pages[20:07:26] <humdinger> to call the "manual" for the app[20:07:32] <Ace__> hmm[20:07:34] *** Vanisha <Vanisha!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[20:07:36] <Ace__> lemmet try[20:08:47] <Ace__> no manual entry for figlet[20:10:10] <humdinger> because it's in the wrong location[20:14:33] <Stephanie> I was looking through tasks and found one about fixing the fluidsynth recipe - I built fluidsynth and it seems to build fine...[20:14:49] <Ace__> hmm, so, what's the effect of it?[20:15:54] <ohnx> like this one: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/blob/75a3cf5384f650242f4b8a1094ab305d33ed99e7/media-sound/fluidsynth/fluidsynth-1.1.6.recipe Stephanie ?[20:16:00] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #haiku[20:16:09] <humdinger> Ace__: you need to change the MANDIR to $manDir/man6[20:16:25] <Ace__> hmm, okay, i will try[20:16:27] <Stephanie> Yup ohnx[20:16:30] <Ace__> but the other is okay?[20:17:03] <Perelandra> Thanks Humdinger, I got notification_server blacklisted and testing my changes now.[20:17:05] <humdinger> As I said, you need someone with CLI app porting experience.[20:17:18] <humdinger> Perelandra: you're on a roll! :)[20:17:22] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B150A9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[20:18:28] <Perelandra> Yeah trying to get some good features going here.[20:19:35] <humdinger> You have until end of Feb. to get it merged...[20:19:53] <ohnx> Stephanie: did you try to install the package?[20:20:26] <Stephanie> pkgman install?[20:22:18] <ohnx> yeah[20:22:28] <ohnx> idk but from what i can see, I can't notice any source files[20:22:35] <ohnx> might just be my fault though[20:24:38] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@212.69.17.18> has joined #haiku[20:24:38] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@212.69.17.18> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:24:38] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has joined #haiku[20:24:43] <Ace__> MANDIR=$manDir/man6??[20:24:49] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:25:45] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:26:10] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #haiku[20:26:28] <humdinger> Ace__: I'd say so. No idea what all the variabalooza is about... that $DISTRODIR looks totally circular[20:26:36] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-13-86.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:27:23] <Ace__> lol, i will try, i'm not that understand[20:27:28] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[20:28:41] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@94.53.224.14> has joined #haiku[20:29:03] <Vidrep> humdinger, there are some old patches remaining in burnitnow that are no longer valid: burnitnow-beta5-svn.patch[20:30:41] <Ace__> figlet after installed should be inside what file?[20:30:55] <humdinger> Vidrep: yeah. looks like they weren't even used for v0.1.0.[20:31:31] <humdinger> Ace__: I'm not sure... I'd say in $binDir/figlet/ folder.[20:31:35] <humdinger> but what do I know...[20:31:41] <Vidrep> I removed them locally while building and testing[20:31:58] <Vidrep> They didn't make any difference[20:32:28] <Vidrep> They were there for the "legacy" branch[20:32:47] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-193-39.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:32:47] <Ace__> can't find it[20:33:01] <Ace__> and when i typle figlet in terminal[20:33:21] <Ace__> ./figlet : permission denied[20:34:01] <humdinger> where are you? type "pwd"[20:34:20] <ohnx> might need to `chmod +x figlet`[20:34:56] <xdizzaster> Hi! I'm having trouble building a application that requires libboost. It gives me a weird compilation error and I was wondering if someone more experienced could take a look and maybe figure out what I should do[20:35:09] <xdizzaster> Here is the error I'm getting, it's pretty long: http://pastebin.com/VbuLAWAn[20:35:43] <xdizzaster> From what I can see, it seems to be something wrong INSIDE the boost header files[20:35:50] <xdizzaster> But I might be wrong[20:36:26] <ohnx> does haiku come installed with boost?[20:36:40] <xdizzaster> no, I downloaded it from the depot[20:36:55] <xdizzaster> or haikuporter downloaded it as a dependency[20:37:08] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B150A9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[20:37:10] <ohnx> hmm what version of gcc do you have? maybe you're running gcc2?[20:37:43] <xdizzaster> gcc 5.4.0[20:37:43] <Ace__> still at /boot/home[20:37:55] <xdizzaster> boost is marked as broken on x86_gcc2[20:37:56] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B150A9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[20:39:07] <ohnx> hmm idk then[20:39:11] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[20:39:21] <xdizzaster> damn, thanks tho[20:39:31] <humdinger> Ace__: that's because your figlet binary isn't in /bin, but a subfolder /bin/figlet[20:39:41] <humdinger> so it's not in PATH[20:40:06] <Ace__> hmm, so... what should i do?[20:40:16] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@212.69.17.18> has joined #haiku[20:40:16] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@212.69.17.18> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:40:16] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has joined #haiku[20:40:23] *** dograt <dograt!~dograt@unaffiliated/dograt> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[20:40:43] <humdinger> did you fix the man apge location already?[20:41:03] <humdinger> *page[20:41:19] <humdinger> that you can do unitl someone knowledgable comes along.[20:41:42] *** dograt <dograt!~dograt@unaffiliated/dograt> has joined #haiku[20:41:42] <humdinger> maybe it's OK to create symlinks to your binaries in $binDir...[20:41:43] *** kreate1994 <kreate1994!~kreate199@112.210.192.250> has joined #haiku[20:45:13] <Ace__> hmm....[20:45:18] <Ace__> man page?[20:47:02] <humdinger> rigt now it's put into $binDir/figlet/share/share/man/man6[20:47:11] <humdinger> should be $manDir/man6[20:49:21] <Ace__> change MANDIR with $binDir/figlet/share/share/man/man6?[20:49:21] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:49:39] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #haiku[20:49:49] <jessicah> Ace__: let me see your recipe :)[20:49:53] <jessicah> I'll tell you what to do[20:50:07] <humdinger> yes. I don't know what all the variables are supposed to do. just change the "make install" line...[20:50:10] <Ace__> in github, can u see it too?[20:50:20] <jessicah> can you give me a link?[20:50:24] <humdinger> jessicah: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/983[20:51:07] <jessicah> Ace__: okay, several things[20:51:17] <jessicah> replace app:Figlet with cmd:figlet[20:51:24] <jessicah> it's not an app, it's a command[20:51:57] <jessicah> MANDIR=$manDir[20:51:57] <Ace__> okay...[20:52:59] <humdinger> I'll leave you in jessicah's gentle hands...[20:52:59] <jessicah> DESTDIR=$binDir[20:53:00] <Ace__> cmd:figlet or cmd:Figlet?[20:53:05] <jessicah> lowercase[20:53:42] * humdinger ducks out of the channel, waves[20:53:46] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d854329.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[20:54:21] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:54:39] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #haiku[20:54:45] <jessicah> let me check a few other things...[20:55:23] <Ace__> okay[20:59:03] <jessicah> you don't need DISTRODIR at all, that can be removed[21:00:36] <Ace__> okay...[21:01:19] <jessicah> just thinking where fonts should be[21:03:06] <jessicah> so, DESTDIR=$binDir, MANDIR=$manDir, and DEFAULTFONTDIR=$dataDir[21:03:57] <Ace__> wow[21:04:06] <jessicah> mkdir -p ${DESTDIR} ${MANDIR} ${DEFAULTFONTDIR}[21:04:07] <Ace__> how to know that?[21:04:38] <Ace__> all mkdir, make it 1 line?[21:04:42] <jessicah> if you read the Makefile and see the default paths[21:04:48] <jessicah> yes, you can do it in one line if you want[21:05:46] <Ace__> wow, thanks, is that all?[21:06:15] <jessicah> e.g. /usr/local/bin => $binDir, /usr/local/man => $manDir; however, in the Makefile it uses /usr/local/man/man6; so change MANDIR=$manDir/man6[21:06:35] <jessicah> and /usr/local/share/figlet, so $dataDir should work for okay for that[21:07:28] <Ace__> i sew[21:07:32] <Ace__> see[21:07:47] <Ace__> so, i need to build it again?[21:07:48] <jessicah> https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/wiki/HaikuPorter-BuildRecipes[21:08:18] <jessicah> also, the DESTDIR/MANDIR/DEFAULTFONTDIR also need to be in the BUILD() section before make[21:08:31] <jessicah> you can put the mkdir line in BUILD(), and remove from INSTALL()[21:10:09] <jessicah> you should also add cmd:chkfont, cmd:showfigfonts and cmd:figlist to the PROVIDES as well[21:11:27] <Ace__> okay, done^^, then??[21:11:52] <jessicah> and similarly in BUILD, would be make DESTDIR=${DESTDIR} ... etc. as done in INSTALL()[21:12:08] <jessicah> yes, build it again[21:13:15] <jessicah> I think that's everything...[21:13:40] <Ace__> wow[21:14:00] <Ace__> i dont understand the last one[21:14:17] <ohnx> jessicah: made pr https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/985 thanks for the port stuff :p[21:14:19] <jessicah> well, you have make in BUILD() and make install in INSTALL()[21:14:53] <jessicah> so make both lines look the same, except remove install[21:15:30] <jessicah> ohnx: yes, I saw :)[21:15:41] <ohnx> k :)[21:18:26] <Ace__> hmm, cp: missing destination file operand after 'figlet'[21:18:57] <Ace__> makefile:55: recipe for target 'install' failed[21:19:21] *** xdizzaster <xdizzaster!~xdizzaste@94.53.224.14> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:21:03] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[21:23:46] <punsith> how to change the position in a TextView i tryed BTexeview(BRect(11,11,10,10), "NAME"); but it wont work[21:25:01] <PulkoMandy> your BRect does not look right[21:25:18] <PulkoMandy> it is not x, y, width, height, but left, top, right, bottom[21:25:29] <PulkoMandy> so, your rect would be -1 pixels high and -1 pixels wide[21:25:44] <PulkoMandy> also, it depends if you use the Layout API or not[21:26:23] <punsith> I dont use layout API[21:27:05] <PulkoMandy> ok, then the BRect with correct coordinates should do it[21:28:35] *** rtcoder <rtcoder!~rohan@c-24-4-179-69.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[21:30:04] <punsith> oka i will try[21:30:07] *** rtcoder <rtcoder!~rohan@c-24-4-179-69.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:30:28] <jessicah> Ace__: hmm, can I see your full changes?[21:31:53] *** Duggan <Duggan!~Duggan@adsl-74-243-32-207.bix.bellsouth.net> has joined #haiku[21:32:28] <jessicah> hey Duggan[21:32:34] <Duggan> hey jessicah[21:32:45] <Duggan> sorry about yesterday, my nephew came home[21:33:01] <Duggan> 1: I have a mouse now and it seems to work fine :P[21:33:14] <jessicah> Duggan: it's no problem[21:33:22] <jessicah> I came and went like the wind anyway[21:33:36] <jessicah> suddenly be there, and then next be like, ugh, try to nap...[21:33:38] <Duggan> 2: so how do I build? I was lucky enough to have already downloaded the buildtools :P[21:33:54] <Duggan> any luck?[21:34:08] <jessicah> cd haiku/generated; ../configure --build-cross-tools x86_64 ../../buildtools --use-gcc-pipe -jN[21:34:15] <jessicah> where N is number of cores you have[21:34:32] <jessicah> assuming standard layout of things :p[21:34:35] <jessicah> adjust paths to suit[21:34:41] <jessicah> nop[21:35:46] <jessicah> looked at clock in systray, was like "ugh, it's still the 1st?" "wait, what? oh, month... 3rd today"[21:35:54] <jessicah> another 24 hours, I can get my meds[21:35:58] <jessicah> :)[21:36:50] <jessicah> Ace__: you can do cat figlet.recipe | curl - F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us[21:36:55] <jessicah> fix filename to suit[21:37:13] <jessicah> it will output http://sprunge.us/SOMELETTERS[21:37:18] <jessicah> you can paste that here[21:37:30] <Duggan> lol[21:38:00] <Duggan> not found :P[21:38:21] <jessicah> :p[21:39:57] <Duggan> actually as I recall (and as I recall being able to confirm) using TWICE the number of cores is actually more efficient[21:42:09] <jessicah> really? :o[21:42:23] <Duggan> yep, give it a shot sometime :)[21:43:20] * jessicah tests[21:43:27] <jessicah> so it should finish in 3.5 minutes? :p[21:43:34] <jessicah> is that only on haiku?[21:44:17] <Duggan> probably not... it makes sense if a thread is blocked by an IO call (which I guess would be unlikely for an SSD), it would allow another thread to run... but that's just a guess[21:46:52] <PulkoMandy> yes, with old style spinning disks and not enough RAM for proper disk cache and no --use-gcc-pipe, you may get better results with more threads than cores[21:47:18] <PulkoMandy> but with SSD, several GB of free ram and gcc pipe (which saves a lot of file operations in /tmp), it is much easier to get CPU bound[21:47:21] <jessicah> well, that's pegged my CPU at 100%[21:47:27] *** dax007 <dax007!dfbe4abc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.190.74.188> has joined #haiku[21:47:41] <dax007> hello[21:47:50] <Duggan> greetings[21:47:54] <Duggan> jessicah, that's unusual? :)[21:48:04] <PulkoMandy> and if you want to slow down the build even more: have a Tracker window showing /tmp and see gcc creating and deleting files all the time there[21:48:16] <Duggan> lol[21:48:31] <dax007> i just wanted to know what do i need to do on the tasks of Investigate our NVidia GPU support and update our wiki to match[21:49:02] * Duggan sighs.[21:49:43] *** dax007 <dax007!dfbe4abc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.190.74.188> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:50:06] *** dax007 <dax007!dfbe4abc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.190.74.188> has joined #haiku[21:50:17] <jessicah> Duggan: what's wrong?[21:51:17] <jessicah> 7m55s[21:51:23] <jessicah> so slightly slower[21:53:23] <dax007> i just wanted to know what do i have to do in the task Investigate our NVidia GPU support and update our wiki to match[21:55:22] <Duggan> jessicah, well you can still play around with the thread count and see what's optimal for you[21:59:13] <dax007> i just wanted to know what do i have to do in the task Investigate our NVidia GPU support and update our wiki to match[22:00:09] <PulkoMandy> dax007: there is no need to repeat yourself, if you get no reply, it means no one knows or has the time to help[22:00:21] <PulkoMandy> just wait a little and see if someone comes around[22:00:25] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:00:31] <PulkoMandy> also, a link to the GCI task (if it is one) would help[22:02:51] <dax007> here's the link https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/4698938575683584/[22:03:22] *** Duggan <Duggan!~Duggan@adsl-74-243-32-207.bix.bellsouth.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[22:06:44] <PulkoMandy> dax007: it looks like that page is already up to date and there is nothing to do[22:07:23] <PulkoMandy> just add a comment to the task that "the wiki is up to date" and submit for review[22:07:38] * PulkoMandy is not sure why people create such tasks, but… free GCI points for you[22:07:55] <dax007> are all pages for such tasks up to date[22:07:56] <dax007> ?[22:08:10] *** Begas_afk is now known as Begasus[22:08:24] <Begasus> re[22:08:49] <Begasus> Stephanie ... pr looks ok to me :)[22:09:07] <PulkoMandy> dax007: I don't know how many of these tasks there are, but this one is up to date for sure (the driver hasn't changed for a very long time)[22:09:38] <Stephanie> Cool Begasus[22:09:49] <PulkoMandy> note that trying to claim all these "no work" tasks would not be appreciated when reviewing your global effort if done on purpose, so maybe make sure beforehand with mentors if the task is valid[22:11:38] <dax007> sir i assure you that this was just a mere coincidence for me and i won't be taking up any such tasks again[22:14:53] <Begasus> checking the recipe here Stephanie[22:15:01] <PulkoMandy> dax007: sure, no problem[22:15:17] <PulkoMandy> in this case it is mentor's fault for creating such tasks without checking[22:16:17] *** return0e_ <return0e_!~return0e@178-78-68-13.static.kc.net.uk> has joined #haiku[22:20:43] *** Duggan <Duggan!~Duggan@adsl-74-243-47-145.bix.bellsouth.net> has joined #haiku[22:21:07] * Duggan sighs...[22:25:28] <Duggan> well, I got my old 3d accel code moved over... now to get back to work on it I guess...[22:26:59] <Skipp_OSX> yea \o/[22:27:39] <Duggan> lol[22:27:44] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, remember when you were working on the scheduler? mmlr is totally a boss the scheduler is 1000x nicer than it was then[22:27:55] <Duggan> nice :)[22:28:08] <Duggan> I tried... I learned a lot... some of my theories didn't play out as I expected ;)[22:28:15] <Duggan> but that's how you learn :)[22:28:38] <Skipp_OSX> no more Simpler scheduler, Simple SMP scheduler, Affine scheduler, it's all one scheduler now and it is the good one[22:28:46] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.69.37.144.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[22:28:52] *** compyx <compyx!~compyx@D4CCAD8F.cm-2.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:28:59] <Skipp_OSX> and then if you have a single CPU it automatically degrades down[22:29:44] <Duggan> nice... I think the actual affine scheduler was developed after I switched from the scheduler to gfx[22:30:07] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, well, it was developed then but not used and probably broken[22:30:14] <Duggan> I'm still surprised that I'm the only one that seems to think graphics is a major issue :P[22:30:26] <Duggan> yeah, it was broken... that's what it was[22:30:32] <PulkoMandy> kallisti5 agrees with you on graphics[22:30:38] <PulkoMandy> but no one has time to work on it[22:30:42] <Duggan> yes, but he's going about it a different way... or was...[22:30:49] <PulkoMandy> (as with everything else)[22:30:53] <Skipp_OSX> waiting on dev fairies to fix the problem :)[22:30:58] <Duggan> lol true that...[22:31:04] <Duggan> you mean axel? :P[22:31:19] <Skipp_OSX> PulkoMandy knows about dev fairies[22:31:43] <Duggan> PulkoMandy *IS* a dev fairy...[22:32:06] <Duggan> and I mean that with the greatest respect :P[22:32:32] <Skipp_OSX> he really is[22:32:33] <Duggan> lol[22:32:48] <PulkoMandy> it's just lots of work and time, no magic involved in what I do for Haiku :>[22:33:19] <Duggan> you've turned out to be one of the biggest contributors to the project.... I remember trying to help you when you first got started :P[22:33:23] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.69.37.144.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[22:33:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[22:34:11] *** dlesage <dlesage!dlesage@nat/redhat/x-hthpdsypgutdqxkc> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[22:35:08] *** dlesage <dlesage!dlesage@nat/redhat/x-uudoelzclgwkymrh> has joined #haiku[22:35:18] <Skipp_OSX> xyzzy was a dev fairy[22:35:22] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kacper@89-65-138-76.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #haiku[22:35:22] <PulkoMandy> I learnt a lot since then[22:35:54] <Not-8398> [haikuports/haikuports] KapiX pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9ecedd74ad04...27b1c7e3d29b[22:35:55] <Not-8398> [haikuports/haikuports] KapiX 27b1c7e - koder: add recipe[22:36:26] <PulkoMandy> random project idea today: we should port more of http://www.complexification.net/gallery/machines/ to Haiku screensavers (we already have "substrate")[22:36:35] *** mvfranz <mvfranz!~mvfranz@cpe-74-71-4-178.nyc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: mvfranz)[22:36:46] <PulkoMandy> (most come with Processing sourcecode, which is reasonably easy to read and port to C++)[22:36:58] *** mvfranz <mvfranz!~mvfranz@cpe-74-71-4-178.nyc.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[22:38:38] <Skipp_OSX> Rudolf Cornelissen is the last person to seriously work on Haiku graphics drivers I think[22:39:27] <PulkoMandy> Skipp_OSX: well, depends what you mean, kallisti5 did a lot of work on radeon_hd and intel_extreme recently[22:39:33] <PulkoMandy> nothing on the 3D support front however[22:39:37] *** pdziepak <pdziepak!~pdziepak@188.172.154.225> has joined #haiku[22:39:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o pdziepak[22:39:58] <Skipp_OSX> PulkoMandy, I suppose that is true. I don't think rudolfc was working on 3d either[22:40:13] <Skipp_OSX> 3d acceleration is a unicorn[22:40:20] <dax007> can we take a screenshot in haiku and save it on the haiku desktop?[22:40:22] <Begasus> back in the days Rudolf did a great job[22:40:40] <Skipp_OSX> dax007, there is a Screenshot app[22:40:50] <Begasus> dax007, just hit the prinstcreen on your keyboard[22:41:28] <PulkoMandy> Skipp_OSX: he did some work on getting opengl running, not sure how much of it was accelerated[22:41:49] <PulkoMandy> his webpage/blog about it is still online[22:41:50] <PulkoMandy> www.rudolfs-place.nl/BeOS/NVdriver/index.html[22:42:25] <Duggan> we still wouldn't be where we are without PulkoMandy's work on the intel_extreme too, let's not forget that :)[22:42:28] <Begasus> I've got stuff in here (/boot/home/config/packages/administrative) going back to 2014) can I delete stuff in there without messing things about?[22:42:29] <dax007> Begasus, i run haiku on virtualbox. so pressing printscreen would save the screenshot on my original desktop, won't it?[22:42:46] <Begasus> ah could be dax007 :)[22:42:58] *** petrichorx <petrichorx!uid147077@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sysvaeydwlrvqosb> has joined #haiku[22:42:59] <Duggan> and yes, you have learned a lot since then... now I need to relearn everything I knew about gfx so I can get back to working on the stack and implementing a fix that will get us 3D accel across the board...[22:43:09] *** mvfranz <mvfranz!~mvfranz@cpe-74-71-4-178.nyc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: mvfranz)[22:43:13] <Begasus> maybe not if you run it fullsreen? (haven't used VM for Haiku for ages)[22:43:14] <dax007> can the app bescreencapture also take screenshots?[22:43:30] <Begasus> but there should be an app also for it[22:44:16] <Skipp_OSX> dax007, run Screenshot app from terminal, will give you more options[22:44:37] <Stephanie> dax007 printscreen on my vm saves it on the vm[22:44:47] <Duggan> PulkoMandy, interested in helping? ;)[22:45:48] <Skipp_OSX> vm should capture print screen[22:46:06] <dax007> thanks a lot[22:46:13] <dax007> that actually helped :)[22:46:42] <Skipp_OSX> PulkoMandy, what would it take to turn this into a screensaver? http://www.complexification.net/gallery/machines/guts/appletm/guts_m.pde[22:47:19] <Skipp_OSX> looks like pretty pedestrian C code[22:47:54] <PulkoMandy> Begasus: yes, you can remove old states from the administrative folder[22:47:55] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@2.69.37.144.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[22:48:06] <PulkoMandy> they slow down booting so it is recommended to clean from time to time[22:48:16] <Begasus> PulkoMandy ... also from /boot/system/packages/administrative?[22:48:23] <PulkoMandy> they are used to boot your system in an older state in case you install a package that breaks everything[22:48:25] <PulkoMandy> yes[22:48:40] <PulkoMandy> (you can access this from the "select boot volume" entry in the boot menu)[22:48:42] <Begasus> ok ... think I need to clean some things up here :)[22:48:57] <PulkoMandy> we should probably integrate this to the upcoming "software repositories" preferences?[22:49:01] <Begasus> yes, I knew that, wasn't sure about deleting them[22:49:06] <PulkoMandy> (autoclean anything older than 1 year? 1 month?)[22:49:28] <PulkoMandy> yes, you can delete them (oldest ones first) without problems[22:49:30] <Begasus> depending on how often you update with pkgman? ;)[22:50:25] <Begasus> it should atleast the latest one aroung (even if it's over 1 month then)[22:50:38] <Skipp_OSX> it is Java but it looks like C code[22:51:18] <Duggan> who's working on the depot these days?[22:54:36] <Begasus> PulkoMandy ... what about /boot/system/packages/administrative/transaction-*[22:54:47] <Duggan> is there any way to actually browse the contents or do I really just have to know what I want before bothering with it?[22:55:38] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte)[22:55:48] *** dax007 <dax007!dfbe4abc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.223.190.74.188> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[22:57:41] <Begasus> biab[22:57:41] <Begasus> (hopefully)[22:57:46] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54C3C8C2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[23:03:05] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B150A9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[23:05:30] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B150A9D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[23:12:50] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, I think you can extract the package contents with Expander[23:13:52] <Duggan> Skipp_OSX I mean like getting a list of the programs available in the depot... categories is either broken or the programs aren't categorised, and nothing shows up unless you enter something in search... is there a way to list everything without having to enter anything in the search box?[23:13:52] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:14:09] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #haiku[23:14:19] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, oh... in Haiku Depot itself I have no clue[23:15:11] <Skipp_OSX> it used to list without searching but that was changed at some point, probably performance[23:16:34] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has joined #haiku[23:17:36] <Duggan> :/ it would be a lot more useful to me if I could just browse... if I have to already know what I'm after, it kind of limits it's usefulness... not saying it isn't useful...[23:17:38] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[23:17:45] *** kreate1994 <kreate1994!~kreate199@112.210.192.250> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:17:48] <Begasus> re[23:17:57] <Duggan> wb Begasus[23:18:23] <Begasus> has anything changed in installing (cp) packages to the ~/config/packages folder?[23:18:30] <Begasus> thanks Duggan :)[23:18:35] <Duggan> np[23:18:59] <Begasus> installing there doesn't seem to work here, installing them with HD works ...[23:19:25] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, patches welcome :_)[23:19:45] <Begasus> Stephanie .. ps Freeciv works fine here :)[23:19:56] <Stephanie> Sweet :D[23:20:44] *** punsith <punsith!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[23:21:35] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.175> has joined #haiku[23:22:37] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:22:59] *** Duggan2 <Duggan2!~Duggan@adsl-74-243-62-240.bix.bellsouth.net> has joined #haiku[23:23:17] <Duggan2> damn electrical storm :/[23:23:53] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #haiku[23:25:37] *** Duggan <Duggan!~Duggan@adsl-74-243-47-145.bix.bellsouth.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:27:18] <Duggan2> jessicah, ok so I've finally been able to config successfully... now jam normally?[23:28:08] <jessicah> yeah[23:28:38] <Duggan2> too late, already started :P[23:28:42] <Duggan2> lol[23:29:26] <jessicah> Duggan2: turn off the featured list[23:30:18] <Duggan2> gawk: /boot/home/Desktop/Repos/haiku/src/apps/devices/pci-header.awk:169: fatal error: internal error Abort[23:30:32] <Duggan2> jessicah, it's greyed out[23:30:38] *** Duggan2 is now known as Duggan[23:31:29] <jessicah> what??[23:31:54] <jessicah> awk is broken now?![23:32:11] <Duggan> let me try a clean build :P[23:32:48] <Duggan> when I'm involved, EVERYTHING is broken... have you not yet noticed this?[23:34:16] <punsith> I need to change the position of a text view but not while creating it i want to do it separately , is their any way to do it[23:34:45] <Duggan> jessicah, yep, same thing... jam just bailed on me again[23:36:12] <Duggan> pulling, will try again with newest revision...[23:37:36] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[23:39:52] *** dcatt <dcatt!~dcatt@pool-71-113-21-149.rcmdva.east.verizon.net> has joined #haiku[23:40:08] <Duggan> jessicah, yep, same thing... build is broked[23:40:56] <Vidrep> Hi[23:41:20] *** punsith2 <punsith2!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[23:41:46] <Duggan> hey[23:44:10] *** punsith2 <punsith2!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:44:24] *** punsith2 <punsith2!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[23:44:37] <Begasus> hi Vidrep[23:44:49] <scottmc> punsith, any new progress?[23:45:24] <Begasus> nice work on BurnItNow, seems my internal DVD writer on the laptop is supported to, will try to check tomorrow if I can burn anything with it :)[23:45:40] <Begasus> morning scottmc :)[23:45:44] *** punsith2 <punsith2!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:46:14] <Duggan> hey scottmc[23:46:31] <scottmc> hey[23:46:59] <punsith> @scottmc yep[23:47:23] <punsith> only one step to do now to change the position of the timer[23:47:28] *** punsith2 <punsith2!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[23:47:37] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, what is the error you are getting?[23:47:51] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, can you pastebin the error and send a link?[23:48:16] <jessicah> Duggan: well that may be easier to fix :p[23:48:20] <punsith> currently it appears on game window :( im try to change the position[23:48:28] <jessicah> shall give it a try[23:48:48] *** punsith2 <punsith2!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:48:58] <Duggan> Skipp_OSX: gawk: /boot/home/Desktop/Repos/haiku/src/apps/devices/pci-header.awk:169: fatal error: internal error Abort[23:49:08] <scottmc> punish so you got it to show the timer in the main game window somewhere now? or still trying to?[23:49:30] <punsith> it is on the main window[23:49:40] <punsith> but in a wrong place[23:50:20] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, what version of awk do you have installed? awk --version | head -n 1[23:50:21] <scottmc> punsith can you paste the code and share a url with us? Maybe Begasus or someone else here can offer up some advice?[23:50:32] *** punsith2 <punsith2!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[23:50:51] <punsith> okay :D[23:51:34] <Duggan> Skipp_OSX: 4.1.4 API: 1.1[23:51:35] <Begasus> code-wise I don't think I can be of many assistence :)[23:51:52] *** punsith2 <punsith2!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:51:55] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, I assume gnu awk[23:51:59] <Skipp_OSX> that should be fine[23:52:00] <Duggan> yes[23:52:36] <Duggan> Skipp_OSX so you know, I'm trying to build x86_64 in x86_64[23:53:24] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, ah okay well in that case you may have a legit build error[23:54:17] <Duggan> yay! not really :/[23:54:56] *** punsith2 <punsith2!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[23:55:12] <Vidrep> Begasus, sorry, I was reading the IRC logs since my last logout[23:56:08] <Duggan> Skipp_OSX: lead me oh wise one... tell me what I must do[23:56:16] *** punsith2 <punsith2!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:56:17] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, yesterday I was testing IDE burners on an old PIII system and I had about 5 KDL's in a row. Is it worth creating a ticket for such an old platform?[23:56:33] <Begasus> np Vidrep[23:56:58] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, you could comment out lines 169-171 in that file and see if that gets you any further[23:57:33] *** punsith2 <punsith2!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has joined #haiku[23:57:43] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54c3c8c2.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[23:57:43] <Skipp_OSX> Duggan, code was added in 2006 though and is awk (platform independent) so I'm guessing it is working code[23:57:44] *** FlyingJester <FlyingJester!~Kashyyyk@2602:306:31c4:2820::3e9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[23:58:37] *** FlyingJester <FlyingJester!~Kashyyyk@2602:306:31c4:2820::3e9> has joined #haiku[23:58:53] *** punsith2 <punsith2!44834d22@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.131.77.34> has quit IRC (Client Quit)