November 28, 2016 
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November 28, 2016 [00:07:42] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[00:12:19] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has joined #haiku[00:18:56] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[00:30:39] *** postmen <postmen!~tonio@p5B15089B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[00:33:08] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[00:34:03] *** Feitan <Feitan!~vision@49.145.105.7> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[01:12:31] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[01:12:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[01:20:09] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@71.11.67.179> has joined #haiku[01:37:01] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:df54:60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:55:44] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:56:08] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #haiku[01:57:38] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has joined #haiku[01:59:28] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:01:02] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #872 of haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2 is complete: Failure [failed build jam] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2/builds/872[02:01:04] <ValeT> I hope you are all ready for GCI to start tomorrow :D[02:12:31] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[02:18:53] *** GeekShadow <GeekShadow!~antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow> has joined #haiku[02:20:52] *** scottmc <scottmc!~scottmc@c-67-174-194-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[02:22:01] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #872 of haiku-nightlies-x86 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86/builds/872[02:25:32] <IIsiHaiku> Work and uni tomorrow. ^^;;[02:27:19] *** guest3371 <guest3371!~user@2603:3000:1200:4700:2d04:8822:d0ea:1228> has joined #haiku[02:52:08] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:a5ef:ed85:4d3f:9665:f60a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[02:52:51] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:a5ef:7496:c423:eb12:7018> has joined #haiku[02:53:24] *** jprostko <jprostko!~jprostko@dynamic-acs-24-239-196-251.zoominternet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:07:30] *** qptain_Nemo <qptain_Nemo!~qN@37.204.239.206> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:07:43] *** qptain_Nemo <qptain_Nemo!~qN@37.204.239.206> has joined #haiku[03:45:45] *** paulharris is now known as PaulHarris[04:14:16] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[04:14:57] *** qeos <qeos!~kvirc@37.204.81.98> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:15:46] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:26:42] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[04:56:46] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@71.11.67.179> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[04:59:03] *** vanisha <vanisha!3d0c5c4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.61.12.92.74> has joined #haiku[04:59:30] <vanisha> Any GCI mentor online ?[05:01:10] <vanisha> I have decided to contribute my work with Haiku in GCI this year , This would be my first year in GCI . I was going through previous tasks where we have lot of tasks to write recipe . I have issue's in understanding where do I start ?[05:11:27] <vanisha> I do also have issue in using internet on Haiku . I have installed haiku in VM & I use wifi .[05:12:52] <IIsiHaiku> Do you have https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/wiki and https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/wiki/A-Gentle-Introduction-to-HaikuPorter-%231 ?[05:13:23] <IIsiHaiku> For internet, which VM are you using?[05:15:17] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[05:16:33] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[05:17:18] <IIsiHaiku> Has https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/virtualizing been of any help with network in VM?[05:19:02] * IIsiHaiku gently taps vanisha[05:21:08] <vanisha> yes[05:21:19] <vanisha> I have the latest nightly build[05:21:42] <vanisha> even the network shows I am connected[05:21:49] <vanisha> but it doesn't work[05:22:22] <IIsiHaiku> What are your VM network settings?[05:22:34] <IIsiHaiku> Which network card is it emulating?[05:23:55] <vanisha> Give me a minute[05:24:00] <vanisha> I will let you know[05:24:28] <IIsiHaiku> and which VM, still (:[05:25:51] <vanisha> I am on Virtual Box[05:26:11] <IIsiHaiku> Windows or Linux?[05:26:36] <vanisha> Windows[05:26:47] <vanisha> adapter1 is on NAT.[05:27:39] <IIsiHaiku> And adapter type?[05:28:06] <IIsiHaiku> (in Advanced)[05:29:01] <vanisha> Broadcom Wifi Adapter[05:29:32] <IIsiHaiku> Please try Intel PRO/1000 MIT Desktop (82540EM)[05:32:25] <vanisha> A min[05:33:42] <eschatologist> Haiku has virtio drivers, right?[05:34:36] <IIsiHaiku> Yes, for bus and disc, I think.[05:34:58] <IIsiHaiku> not for network[05:35:27] <IIsiHaiku> We have it for SCSI.[05:36:24] <IIsiHaiku> Or...I'm reading an out-of-date ticket in Trac.[05:36:57] <IIsiHaiku> No, seems to be correct. (:[05:38:20] *** vanisha_ <vanisha_!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has joined #haiku[05:38:54] <IIsiHaiku> re van[05:39:04] <eschatologist> Ah. Thanks.[05:39:08] <vanisha_> it says disconnected in Haiku network[05:39:22] <vanisha_> the status[05:39:50] *** vanisha <vanisha!3d0c5c4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.61.12.92.74> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:40:36] <IIsiHaiku> And your VirtualBox settings match the screen shot at the end of this page? https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/virtualizing/virtualbox[05:42:02] <vanisha_> Yes[05:42:16] <IIsiHaiku> /-:[05:42:54] <vanisha_> Cable connected wasn't checked\[05:43:01] <vanisha_> Let reboot Haiku[05:44:07] <vanisha_> Ok so yeah now it is connected[05:44:16] <IIsiHaiku> Excellent.[05:44:22] <vanisha_> when I try to browse google.com using webpositive[05:44:25] <vanisha_> no response[05:44:39] <vanisha_> just a blank screen[05:45:02] <IIsiHaiku> Try to goto the page a few times.[05:46:49] <IIsiHaiku> Three should be enough. Sometimes I get blank or partial pages.[05:47:40] <IIsiHaiku> Usually it works, but every once in a while I need to try the page again.[05:49:00] <IIsiHaiku> Also try ping or wget from Terminal, to test connection[05:49:16] <vanisha_> even the webpositive welcome page isn't loading[05:49:42] <IIsiHaiku> ...That's a local file.[05:49:56] <vanisha_> ping -c 4 google.com will do it[05:50:02] <vanisha_> ?[05:50:21] <vanisha_> Yes , that local file isn't loading too .[05:50:39] <IIsiHaiku> I just: ping 8.8.8.8[05:50:44] <IIsiHaiku> But yeah, not relevant to local files.[05:51:55] <vanisha_> It's pinging[05:51:58] <vanisha_> perfect[05:52:05] <vanisha_> I can receive packets[05:52:07] <IIsiHaiku> Which hrev?[05:52:40] <IIsiHaiku> My most recent install is hrev50675, and WebPositive works.[05:52:57] <IIsiHaiku> Or at least, works for the features that are implemented.[05:53:48] <vanisha_> 60657[05:54:10] <IIsiHaiku> If you have working net (seems you do), you can use HaikuDepot to install another browser, like Qupzilla.[05:54:25] <IIsiHaiku> Don't know why WebPositive is broken for you, unfortunately.[05:56:04] <vanisha_> Qupzilla installed .[05:56:34] <scottmc> open About Haiku, it will show the About this system dialog box. There it should show the hrev. Mine is hrev50668 and web+ is working fine.[05:57:05] <scottmc> how much free space did the vm give you on the virtual drive?[05:57:22] <IIsiHaiku> Be warned: Qupzilla interprets Cmd-W/Alt-W as "close all tabs in this window" instead of "close current tab".[05:58:24] <vanisha_> 2 GB[05:58:33] <vanisha_> @IIsiHaiku Thanks for help :)[05:58:40] <IIsiHaiku> np[06:04:38] <vanisha_> Qupzilla works like a charm :)\[06:15:55] *** AndroUser <AndroUser!~androirc@157.49.238.137> has joined #haiku[06:16:34] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[06:17:35] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:18:57] *** barry <barry!~androirc@223.186.193.107> has joined #haiku[06:22:09] *** AndroUser <AndroUser!~androirc@157.49.238.137> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[06:23:26] *** barry <barry!~androirc@223.186.193.107> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:31:12] *** barry <barry!~androirc@106.200.1.39> has joined #haiku[06:31:40] *** barry <barry!~androirc@106.200.1.39> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:32:16] *** barry <barry!~androirc@106.200.1.39> has joined #haiku[06:32:45] *** barry <barry!~androirc@106.200.1.39> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:34:59] *** vanisha_ <vanisha_!0e8b9ca7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.156.167> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[06:37:12] *** barry <barry!~androirc@223.237.252.233> has joined #haiku[06:42:01] *** barry <barry!~androirc@223.237.252.233> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:55:17] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:03:35] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!quasselcor@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has joined #haiku[07:17:05] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[07:18:21] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[07:24:57] <King_Warg> well this is the first day i can ever say i saw memory EXPLODE in a running computer for seemingly no reason[07:26:57] <scottmc> there is always a reason[07:27:40] <scottmc> samsung memory? I've seen samsung memory chips explode, but that was 20+ years ago[07:28:50] <King_Warg> well coincidentally its some nice 72 pin EDO RAM from 20+ years ago[07:29:30] <scottmc> heh. 72 pin SIMMs, that was a long time ago.[07:30:13] <King_Warg> if you wanna nostalgia even harder i have a generious collection of 30 pin as well[07:30:45] <scottmc> don't make me find my punch cards[07:32:27] <scottmc> 9 hours till Google Code-In starts[07:32:52] <scottmc> 10.5 looking at wrong clock[07:32:52] <King_Warg> i have a bottle of card bit cutouts somewhere..[07:34:23] <scottmc> fixed my Haiku clock. It was synced to network time.[07:35:24] <scottmc> if you ever go to Mountain View, CA check out the computer history museum, it's pretty cool.[07:36:56] <King_Warg> i could effectively be my own museum if there was space for it all to be displayed 0.o[07:37:04] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has joined #haiku[07:39:03] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-084-057-156-024.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:46:27] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[07:55:15] *** qeos <qeos!~kvirc@37.204.81.98> has joined #haiku[07:57:30] <korli> seems the noto font isn't automatically installed after an update[08:04:39] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:11:23] <scottmc> hrev50714?[08:14:25] *** scottmc <scottmc!~scottmc@c-67-174-194-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[08:15:27] <korli> scottmc: yes[08:16:09] *** scottmc <scottmc!~scottmc@c-67-174-194-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[08:18:05] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[08:21:21] <scottmc> can confirm, just updated and had to install noto fonts from haikudepot.[08:22:03] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:33:44] *** eschatologist <eschatologist!~chanson@2601:646:8c00:6dca:83b4:fe68:d468:a6ce> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[08:34:55] *** eschatologist <eschatologist!~chanson@c-73-189-131-221.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[08:57:07] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[09:03:12] *** tekhammer <tekhammer!~tekhammer@unaffiliated/tekhammer> has left #haiku[09:11:18] <King_Warg> gotta love these old mystery motherboards with absolutely no manufacturer labeling..[09:17:45] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[09:22:01] *** postmen <postmen!~tonio@p5B15089B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[09:27:12] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #haiku[09:32:57] *** Deepanshu <Deepanshu!~Deepanshu@223.187.178.110> has joined #haiku[09:35:46] *** dave_____ <dave_____!7373e132@gateway/web/freenode/ip.115.115.225.50> has joined #haiku[09:39:56] *** Deepanshu <Deepanshu!~Deepanshu@223.187.178.110> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:46:35] *** dave_____ <dave_____!7373e132@gateway/web/freenode/ip.115.115.225.50> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:47:13] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:df54:60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has joined #haiku[09:50:25] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@55d46dd7.access.ecotel.net> has joined #haiku[09:56:58] *** Adarsh <Adarsh!uid197757@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lfwmfctgoobtruyb> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[10:01:43] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d869bf3.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[10:01:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[10:15:16] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:df54:60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:21:31] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@32.148.218.139.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[10:21:54] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[10:22:43] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@32.148.218.139.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:23:43] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:49:09] <humdinger> arfonzo: hey, what's happening to your buildbots? :)[10:49:10] <humdinger> http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/buildslaves/arfonzo-bot1-debian[10:57:00] <arfonzo> ahoy![10:57:18] <arfonzo> rah, I'm a bit busy right now at work. I'll look later, thanks for the head's up guys.[10:57:37] <arfonzo> (I suspect I can't answer why it's not working, I usually ask PulkoMandy :) :( )[11:02:55] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)[11:07:14] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[11:11:16] *** Chloe <Chloe!~Chloe@unaffiliated/chloe> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[11:18:08] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:18:36] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[11:19:33] *** Adarsh <Adarsh!uid197757@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mcisbtqjrgoopfea> has joined #haiku[11:20:15] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9f74e.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[11:20:35] <stargater> moin[11:21:34] <postmen> moin stargater[11:23:07] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[11:24:07] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:49:02] <stargater> i test the new rev build, look good with the new nato font , good job[11:51:25] <stargater> but why is deskbar ro cpu hungry? 17 - 25% of cpu power? it this a bug?[11:51:41] <stargater> ro = so[11:51:49] <stargater> moin postmen[11:53:01] <stargater> i test the x86_64 image[11:58:28] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #haiku[12:02:09] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d869bf3.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[12:24:00] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[12:25:18] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:54:40] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[12:56:13] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[13:00:53] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has joined #haiku[13:03:40] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9f74e.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[13:06:53] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d869bf3.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[13:06:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[13:07:16] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:07:29] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has joined #haiku[13:18:45] *** hako_ <hako_!~hako@2a01:388:394:112::1:6> has joined #haiku[13:20:37] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[13:21:54] *** hako <hako!~hako@109.175.185.0> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[13:26:58] *** Adarsh <Adarsh!uid197757@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mcisbtqjrgoopfea> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[13:29:02] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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A hand crafted IRC client)[14:53:01] *** korli <korli!c299d9e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.194.153.217.230> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[14:54:40] *** Lord_of_Codes <Lord_of_Codes!~Lord_of_C@209.58.183.35> has joined #haiku[14:56:53] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has joined #haiku[14:58:10] <jakehutchron> Can anybody comment on state of LLVM on Haiku?[15:01:52] <mmu_man> js: was that you? ^[15:06:41] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kvirc@89-65-135-250.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #haiku[15:08:45] <jakehutchron> Hi. No, I'm not js. I'm needing to use LLVM to compile WebPositive. I guess this is a Pulkomandy question.[15:12:39] *** Lord_of_Codes <Lord_of_Codes!~Lord_of_C@209.58.183.35> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[15:12:58] <IIsiHaiku> https://zachholman.com/posts/only-90s-developers/ x-D[15:13:17] *** Lord_of_Codes <Lord_of_Codes!~Lord_of_C@122.163.244.145> has joined #haiku[15:13:21] <jakehutchron> GCC buggers the binary with optional i686 instruction CMOV. LLVM uses substitute code (from what I hear).[15:14:55] <jakehutchron> I have a i686 (no optional instructions) CPU.[15:15:00] <mmu_man> jakehutchron: no I was just asking if it was him who worked on it[15:15:25] <jakehutchron> So, everything compiled with GCC 4+ fails with "illegal instruction"[15:15:30] <mmu_man> IIsiHaiku: lol[15:15:57] <IIsiHaiku> (:[15:16:03] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[15:20:58] <jakehutchron> can't get much going beyond the base system (gcc 2)[15:21:40] <jakehutchron> but, don't want to give up on board (really nice 5x4 inch super low power (2 watts) for remote bat op.[15:24:17] *** Mandelbrot <Mandelbrot!~vision@131.255.239.42> has joined #haiku[15:34:16] *** Lord_of_Codes <Lord_of_Codes!~Lord_of_C@122.163.244.145> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[15:34:30] *** Lord_of_Codes <Lord_of_Codes!~Lord_of_C@209.58.183.35> has joined #haiku[15:35:36] <postmen> jakehutchron, what's the problem with gcc 2?[15:36:31] <jakehutchron> postmen: nothing at all wrong with gcc2. The base system runs fine.[15:39:01] <postmen> u can switch between gcc2 and gcc4 for easily, but i assume you know that.[15:39:36] <jakehutchron> right, but for some reason webpositive is gcc4 only.[15:41:02] <postmen> well, i guess most things are today. gcc2 is even too old for school by now.[15:42:20] <jakehutchron> Yeah, gcc2 is getting dated. I imagine it's really webkit that drives the gcc4 on web+[15:45:46] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-tggcvrijhcsyfpnw> has joined #haiku[15:52:52] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-tggcvrijhcsyfpnw> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:53:48] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-ioutwgabwgzxjelk> has joined #haiku[15:56:29] *** Lord_of_Codes <Lord_of_Codes!~Lord_of_C@209.58.183.35> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[15:56:36] *** Lord_of_Codes <Lord_of_Codes!~Lord_of_C@122.163.244.145> has joined #haiku[16:03:26] <jakehutchron> This partially explains the problem: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/01/msg00948.html[16:04:19] <jakehutchron> Although, some of it contradicts what I wrote. It seems that gcc wants to assume all i686 have all options.[16:04:45] <mmu_man> jakehutchron: gcc4 seems to use whatever cpu it's running on as target[16:04:49] <mmu_man> which is plain stupid[16:05:17] <mmu_man> but you should be able to force it with -mcpu=[16:05:36] <mmu_man> I had to build Qt with -mstackalign to get Qt not to crash[16:06:22] <jakehutchron> Yeah, I guess I'll have to do that. But, the Vortex IS a legitimate i686.[16:07:38] <jakehutchron> Don't know what other problems that'll bring in[16:08:27] *** zephjc1 <zephjc1!~Adium@2607:fcc8:bdcf:e900:9423:4bd1:762a:edd8> has left #haiku[16:13:16] <jakehutchron> Probably wud need to recompile dependencies too.[16:14:07] <jakehutchron> If LLVM would work, it'd be better maybe ...[16:15:05] *** hako_ <hako_!~hako@2a01:388:394:112::1:6> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:25:11] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[16:26:23] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!vision@253.206-40-118.netnet.net> has joined #haiku[16:35:03] *** jakehutchron <jakehutchron!~vision@99-127-246-190.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[16:40:29] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonio@p5B1518BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[16:41:07] <kallisti5> ack.. jack... left[16:41:09] <kallisti5> *jake[16:41:21] <kallisti5> llvm works fine... Our mesa renderer uses it :-|[16:43:02] *** postmen <postmen!~tonio@p5B15089B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[16:49:45] <bbjimmy> Switch from DejaVu to Noto font ... Where is Noto font so I can test it in my apps?[16:50:17] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d869bf3.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[16:50:17] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[16:50:33] <bbjimmy> I need to see if the Haiku devs broke my software again.[16:53:07] <mmu_man> :p[16:54:46] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has joined #haiku[17:01:43] *** Lord_of_Codes <Lord_of_Codes!~Lord_of_C@122.163.244.145> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[17:01:44] *** scottmc <scottmc!~scottmc@c-67-174-194-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[17:01:44] *** Sri_Designer <Sri_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[17:01:45] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@150.237.94.36> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[17:01:45] *** beatdown <beatdown!beatdown@violator.strangled.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[17:01:45] *** XeonSquared <XeonSquared!~ShadowKat@210-1-213-55-cpe.spintel.net.au> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[17:01:45] *** Blub\w <Blub\w!~wry@unaffiliated/blubw/x-6625061> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[17:01:45] *** js <js!~js@84-72-180-126.dclient.hispeed.ch> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[17:01:45] *** King_Warg <King_Warg!~Wildman@184-15-21-181.dr01.chtn.wv.frontiernet.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[17:01:46] *** IIsi50MHz <IIsi50MHz!sid19824@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ixedeycxmnuauisq> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[17:01:46] *** JohnX <JohnX!john@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe50:3ac4> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[17:01:47] *** HAIKU-irker082 <HAIKU-irker082!~irker@vmrepo.haiku-os.org> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[17:01:59] *** scottmc <scottmc!~scottmc@c-67-174-194-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[17:02:01] *** JohnX <JohnX!john@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe50:3ac4> has joined #haiku[17:02:04] *** js <js!~js@webkeks.org> has joined #haiku[17:02:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o js[17:02:06] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@150.237.94.36> has joined #haiku[17:02:14] *** Lord_of_Codes <Lord_of_Codes!~Lord_of_C@122.163.244.145> has joined #haiku[17:02:17] *** Blub\w <Blub\w!~wry@unaffiliated/blubw/x-6625061> has joined #haiku[17:02:21] *** beatdown <beatdown!beatdown@2001:19f0:6400:8865::11> has joined #haiku[17:02:26] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[17:02:28] *** King_Warg <King_Warg!~Wildman@184-15-21-181.dr01.chtn.wv.frontiernet.net> has joined #haiku[17:02:34] *** XeonSquared <XeonSquared!~ShadowKat@210.1.213.55> has joined #haiku[17:03:57] *** IIsi50MHz <IIsi50MHz!sid19824@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mmaqrznauuebtnsy> has joined #haiku[17:04:10] <bbjimmy> according to this... https://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=945566ff43583e4f8102b4440c88f53dae775cb4 if I specified a DejaVu font I will need to add a dependency to the package is that right?[17:05:14] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!~dario@181.47.131.95> has joined #haiku[17:05:59] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[17:05:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[17:06:08] <humdinger> yes, but normally app just use the font that's set in Appearance (plain/bold/mono) by the user (or as default by the system)[17:07:52] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: GeneralDuke)[17:07:54] <bbjimmy> So whjat is the requires line for DeJaVu? and no, sometimes one needs to set a size and this requires the font face as well.[17:08:17] <bbjimmy> *what[17:09:31] <humdinger> normally it doesn't. you ask for the plain font and then set the size.[17:09:49] <bbjimmy> not with yab[17:09:56] <Barrett> humdinger, did you really stop your donations or got some motivation from the apparent reforming intention of Haiku Inc. ?[17:10:15] <Barrett> just looking around, I want to know what other people think.[17:10:51] <humdinger> Barrett: I've stopped until I see a fundraiser.[17:11:29] <Barrett> ok[17:12:08] <bbjimmy> Why not leve DeJaVU in the default install?[17:12:39] <bbjimmy> * DejaVu[17:12:55] <Barrett> I've already had something to say, just waiting for the right time.[17:16:01] <bbjimmy> The analysis for 2015 is pending the completion of automation code ... Analysis of Donations http://www.haiku-inc.org/donations-analysis.php[17:25:35] *** Lord_of_Code <Lord_of_Code!~Lord_of_C@122.163.244.145> has joined #haiku[17:25:42] *** Lord_of_Codes <Lord_of_Codes!~Lord_of_C@122.163.244.145> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:26:13] *** Lord_of_Code is now known as Lord_of_Codes[17:28:43] *** Mandelbrot <Mandelbrot!~vision@131.255.239.42> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[17:36:27] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@a83-162-209-242.adsl.xs4all.nl> has joined #haiku[17:42:45] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@a83-162-209-242.adsl.xs4all.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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In my time zone it's 10:45 PM . Most of them might be asleep.[18:18:27] <mmu_man> from Stephanie: Here we go everyone! In the first 10 minutes we've already had 82 students[18:18:30] <mmu_man> register and 3 have claimed their first task.[18:19:12] <ValeT> Woo hooo[18:19:16] <ValeT> GCI has started :D[18:24:36] *** Emrys <Emrys!~Emrys@178.138.34.239> has joined #haiku[18:27:36] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[18:28:15] *** Deepanshu <Deepanshu!~Deepanshu@223.186.241.42> has joined #haiku[18:28:17] *** Deepanshu <Deepanshu!~Deepanshu@223.186.241.42> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:29:08] *** Deepanshu <Deepanshu!3d0c5c4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.61.12.92.74> has joined #haiku[18:29:25] <Vidrep> Good day[18:29:41] *** DeepanshuGoyal <DeepanshuGoyal!~Deepanshu@223.228.104.115> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[18:29:52] <ValeT> hey Vidrep[18:30:32] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-162-94-20.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:30:43] <Deepanshu> Hi Vidrep[18:30:47] <Vidrep> I just did a fresh install of 64 bit after the mass update. I was expecting things to be broken all over the place, but was surprised that it all seems normal.[18:30:53] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-166-216-139.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #haiku[18:30:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[18:31:05] <Vidrep> Hi ValeT and Deepanshu[18:32:13] <mmu_man> :)[18:33:20] *** Deepanshu <Deepanshu!3d0c5c4a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.61.12.92.74> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:33:38] <Vidrep> If "Playfile" can play a mp3, but MediaPlayer crashes on the same file, what is the source of the problem?[18:34:38] <Vidrep> This is on 64 bit[18:38:59] <Vidrep> I see that I already have an open ticket on trac for this issue: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/12707[18:39:20] <Vidrep> No point in discussing it further here...[18:40:10] *** Emrys <Emrys!~Emrys@178.138.34.239> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:45:23] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[18:46:51] <bbjimmy> How does one add a font requirement to an .hpkg?[18:49:00] *** lelldorin <lelldorin!~yaaic@x52716246.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[18:50:04] <humdinger> bbjimmy: I assume just put "dejavu" under REQUIRED.[18:50:44] <bbjimmy> I finally found where the fonts are, I expected to find them them in haiku-data not media-fonts :/[18:51:11] <humdinger> fonts aren't haiku specific[18:51:54] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@55d46dd7.access.ecotel.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:53:57] *** lelldorin <lelldorin!~yaaic@x52716246.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:54:04] <scottmc> you shoudn't require a specific font in an application. if yab can't do that, perhaps yab should be fixed to allow any font to be used.[18:57:03] <ValeT> Vidrep, are you excited for cgi?[18:57:03] <mmu_man> indeed[18:57:05] <humdinger> That GCI site is quite mysterious to navigate with web+... no icons... :\[18:57:12] <ValeT> hahaha humdinger I agree[18:57:52] <humdinger> Two Tipster tasks were claimed. were they assigned already?[18:57:53] <mmu_man> bbl[18:58:28] <ValeT> humdinger I think the site auto assigns once it is claimed?[18:58:33] <ValeT> Or do I need to do something?[18:58:36] <ValeT> see ya mum_man[18:58:46] <scottmc> auto-assigns as of last year[18:59:14] <humdinger> ah. having to people work at once on Tipster is a bit awkward...[18:59:37] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:1865:2840:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has joined #haiku[19:00:11] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[19:00:34] <Vidrep> Fresh install of hrev50715 x86_gcc2[19:00:41] <ValeT> that's nice that it auto-assigns[19:00:44] <bbjimmy> requires {[19:00:45] <bbjimmy> yab >= 1.7.5[19:00:46] <bbjimmy> dejavu[19:00:46] <bbjimmy> }[19:01:45] <scottmc> what does yab do if you dont have dejavu installed?[19:01:55] <Vidrep> I wonder what would happen if x86_gcc2 were to get the "mass update" treatment. I bet we would see a bunch or regressions.[19:02:03] <Vidrep> of[19:02:13] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[19:03:05] <ValeT> humdinger I wish multiple didn't claim tipster tasks at once[19:03:19] <ValeT> they're gonna be disappointed too because its a pretty difficult set of tasks for beginners...[19:03:20] <ValeT> :P[19:03:23] <bbjimmy> Since I specified DejaVu Sans,Condensed Bold,32 and have not un-installed DejaVu I don't know yet,[19:03:29] <Vidrep> ValeT, I'm not as excited as you :)[19:03:37] <scottmc> you should post a comment to each of them asking if they already have haiku up and running[19:03:39] <humdinger> let' hope they grab the same issue, too... , ValeT[19:03:42] <scottmc> they likely don't[19:04:02] <scottmc> you'll see a lot like this during the first week[19:04:23] <humdinger> I'll try to comment[19:04:30] <scottmc> guide them to the [begin here] task[19:05:05] <bbjimmy> un-installing DejaVu broke the system. need to re-install it.[19:07:15] <ValeT> lol humdinger[19:07:18] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.125.61> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:07:23] <ValeT> That would totally be my luck[19:08:04] <ValeT> And yours....[19:09:08] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.125.61> has joined #haiku[19:09:42] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-084-057-156-024.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[19:09:46] <bbjimmy> had to re-boot after re-installing DejaVu[19:10:19] <scottmc> is it working again[19:10:33] <bbjimmy> the appearences were all set to noto[19:11:03] <ValeT> humdinger, we should make them say that they are claiming a task on the issue in github[19:11:24] <PulkoMandy> ValeT: that could add a lot of noise to github[19:11:31] <bbjimmy> yes now I have a deskbar menu again and buttons have text and vision has text in the chat window![19:11:32] <ValeT> that way others who take the task know that it has already been claimed for gci[19:11:46] <PulkoMandy> (we see a lot of students claiming a task the giving up after some time)[19:11:47] <scottmc> did you just do a fresh install of Haiku? I did the update and my fonts didn't change to noto, i had to manually install noto[19:11:52] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[19:12:12] <PulkoMandy> ValeT: I created specific tasks for each GCI issue for some projects to avoid this[19:12:20] <PulkoMandy> but it takes a lot of work to create all the tasks[19:12:35] <PulkoMandy> maybe we should write a scraper to get data from github and mass-import them[19:12:53] <bbjimmy> I installed noto and set it to default in Appearance then removed DejaVU[19:12:57] <scottmc> for the students to both claim that same task, it is likely showing up as our first task, or they are in the same classroom[19:12:59] *** HoloIRCUser2 <HoloIRCUser2!~holoirc@106.217.48.188> has joined #haiku[19:13:06] *** HoloIRCUser2 is now known as Deepanshu[19:13:57] <ValeT> Ah well I wasn't smart enough to do that for Tipsterr[19:14:23] <ValeT> PulkoMandy: I will ask them to state which issue they are going to claim[19:14:25] <HaikuUser> Is the current WebPositive a little buggy?[19:14:31] <bbjimmy> off to work no time to investigate now.[19:14:37] <ValeT> See ya bbjimmy[19:14:43] <HaikuUser> I noticed going to Google seems pretty messed up in WebPositive.[19:14:49] *** HaikuUser is now known as Dane__[19:15:11] <PulkoMandy> Dane__: yes, still some problems somewhere in the network code[19:15:14] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kvirc@89-65-135-250.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.9.2 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/)[19:15:21] <Dane__> PulkoMandy OK thanks[19:16:37] <Dane__> Gmail looks good though, even though it reports WebPositive is a version of "Chrome" no longer supported. :-)[19:16:43] <Barrett> Vidrep, I will not hide I'm bored of people asking and inquiring about media_kit bugs to be fixed[19:16:47] *** HoloIRCUser2 <HoloIRCUser2!~holoirc@223.187.194.2> has joined #haiku[19:16:54] <Barrett> I guess you should better ask Haiku Inc.[19:17:27] <Barrett> so sorry.[19:17:28] *** Deepanshu <Deepanshu!~holoirc@106.217.48.188> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:18:09] <Barrett> (also on a side note the reason should be in the MP media nodes)[19:20:44] <ValeT> humdinger one of the people abandoned the task[19:20:54] <ValeT> I think they didn't realize it was a hard task[19:21:01] <ValeT> until you wrote the comment[19:21:17] <humdinger> ValeT: quitters! problem solved. :)[19:21:25] *** HoloIRCUser2 is now known as Deepanshu[19:21:56] <ValeT> I'm excited to see students already claiming tasks though[19:22:06] <ValeT> Hopefully this will be a big GCI year for Haiku![19:22:06] <ValeT> :D[19:22:49] <scottmc> hard to tell. last year was a down year with ubuntu jumping in, but they opted out this year.[19:22:55] <miqlas> I'm already started my GCI.[19:23:04] <ValeT> Nice mills![19:23:07] <ValeT> *miqlas[19:23:08] <scottmc> but a couple new orgs joined, so we will see[19:23:11] <ValeT> ugh autocorrect...[19:23:22] <PulkoMandy> scottmc: that was also because of a bug in the GCI app where the homepage was showing *only* ubuntu tasks at the start of the contest[19:23:35] <Barrett> what a coincidence lol[19:23:37] <ValeT> lol that's hilarious PulkoMandy[19:23:42] <ValeT> I can't believe that happened[19:23:57] <PulkoMandy> you don't know the GCI app well enough then[19:24:01] <scottmc> yeah, i'm still not sold on the new site.[19:24:22] <PulkoMandy> the annoying part is their answer to everything is "use the API and write your own tools"[19:24:28] <Barrett> I preferred the old interface[19:24:46] <PulkoMandy> which would be a good GCI task… but sharing our auth token with students is not a good idea[19:24:56] <miqlas> i gave the gci link to my boss.[19:25:07] <miqlas> He have 2 son between 13 and 17[19:25:10] <scottmc> yeah, the old site had a .csv importer, plus it was open source, so other could create add-ons[19:25:11] <miqlas> maybe...[19:25:39] <PulkoMandy> there is a way to import CSV[19:25:57] <PulkoMandy> (throught the API with a 3rd party tool - there is an open source one)[19:26:04] *** Deepanshu <Deepanshu!~holoirc@223.187.194.2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[19:26:22] <scottmc> yes, with a *[19:26:31] <PulkoMandy> the API allows to build a complete new interface for the website, it gives full access to the data including editing and publishing tasks[19:26:43] *** ValeT <ValeT!cecd4b6e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.206.205.75.110> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[19:26:50] <PulkoMandy> so, "the open source community" or whatever could build a nice and clean website[19:27:33] *** CitizenZ <CitizenZ!~citizenz@unaffiliated/citizenz> has joined #haiku[19:27:48] <Barrett> considering google being the most important internet company, I'm disappointed by their site[19:28:07] <Barrett> the gci website of course[19:29:09] <scottmc> i just logged out and then went to the gci site and clicked on haiku and then view tasks... the [New to Haiku? Do this one first] task is listed first, but the Tipster one is listed second.[19:39:03] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[19:43:12] *** CitizenZ <CitizenZ!~citizenz@unaffiliated/citizenz> has left #haiku[19:46:14] <scottmc> 5 students working on the [New to Haiku?] task[19:46:24] <humdinger> And now Tipster is again pristinely unclaimed.[19:49:29] <PulkoMandy> maybe we can reworkthe task as one for each individual issue then?[19:54:00] <scottmc> we could. or we can just ask the student to specify which issue they plan to tackle.[19:55:15] <humdinger> it's too late now, but we should've only published one task at a time.[20:03:53] *** Emrys <Emrys!~Emrys@178.138.35.84> has joined #haiku[20:05:18] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@cable-188-2-84-136.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[20:05:18] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@cable-188-2-84-136.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:05:18] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has joined #haiku[20:06:53] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:07:14] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@cable-188-2-84-136.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #haiku[20:07:14] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@cable-188-2-84-136.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:07:14] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has joined #haiku[20:22:59] *** hare2 <hare2!~Pol23@p57A38053.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[20:24:42] <Barrett> I will hard more hard tasks[20:24:42] *** hare2 <hare2!~Pol23@p57A38053.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:24:49] <Barrett> depending on how the event goes[20:24:58] <Barrett> *add[20:26:42] <scottmc> maybe some ultraDV related ones?[20:27:48] *** hare2 <hare2!~Pol23@p57A38053.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[20:31:04] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[20:32:52] *** Lord_of_Codes <Lord_of_Codes!~Lord_of_C@122.163.244.145> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[20:35:45] *** Wellenbrett <Wellenbrett!~Thunderbi@p20030072CF1D4A00C1E8187C566DAFD1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[20:39:37] <Vidrep> Is anybody else having an issue with the syslog being spammed with kernel messages? It is similar to the AHCI port reset bug we had previously[20:39:58] <Vidrep> KERN: usb hub 2: port 5 is not suspended[20:39:59] <Vidrep> KERN: usb hub 2: KERN: port 5 is not in an over current state[20:40:00] <Vidrep> KERN: usb hub 2: port 5 was reset[20:41:10] <humdinger> I think I saw that too, Vidrep: I also had mouse lag, which is why I blacklist xhci[20:42:34] <Vidrep> This new PC I bought has USB 3 ports, unlike my previous PC which was USB 2 only[20:43:20] <Vidrep> I haven't even tried the USB 3 ports yet too see if they work with Haiku[20:44:18] *** Barrett_ <Barrett_!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[20:44:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett_[20:45:53] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[20:54:40] *** ValeT <ValeT!47f1fdc2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.71.241.253.194> has joined #haiku[20:55:06] *** Earleys <Earleys!~Earleys@94-225-141-237.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[20:58:16] *** Earleys <Earleys!~Earleys@94-225-141-237.access.telenet.be> has left #haiku ("Leaving")[21:00:51] <ValeT> how's gci going?[21:00:55] <ValeT> anyone need any help?[21:03:22] <PulkoMandy> did we ask student to come here and say hi in the welcom task?[21:03:48] <ValeT> idk[21:03:54] <ValeT> I don't remember seeing that as a task[21:05:03] <Vidrep> That would be a good start[21:05:03] <PulkoMandy> no, we didn't[21:05:12] <PulkoMandy> should we add it to the instructions?[21:05:13] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kvirc@89-65-135-250.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #haiku[21:05:34] <PulkoMandy> is Vision already installed in the nightlies?[21:05:46] <PulkoMandy> otherwise it makes the task a little more complex[21:05:50] <Vidrep> Yes[21:06:53] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, I'm going to start writing up the trac ticket on how to boot multiple GUID partitions in Haiku[21:07:05] <Vidrep> Any suggestions for a title?[21:08:32] <PulkoMandy> Vidrep: you got it to work eventually, so that by itself doesn't need a ticket. Maybe "setting up a bootable GUID drive is too complex and should be more automated" ?[21:09:20] <Vidrep> I could do an article, a forum post, or a trac ticket. Which do you suggest?[21:10:23] <KapiX> humdinger: Install Haiku task has a minor issue, it tells the student to stack the windows, but if one leaves it in that state, the screenshot won't show either WebPositive or StyledEdit. It should be changed to "tile" (point 3.).[21:10:50] <PulkoMandy> it depends where we want to go from here. article if we plan to leave things as they are, trac ticket if something is obviously broken, and I think forum post somewhere in the middle[21:11:06] <PulkoMandy> without knowing the exact process and wether it can be made simpler, hard to decide for me[21:11:16] <Vidrep> I have photos and screenshots for each step of the procedure. If I used all of them, it would far too much info for a trac ticket.[21:11:21] <PulkoMandy> KapiX: you don't have edit permissions on the wiki?[21:11:48] <KapiX> I believe I can only edit i18n/pl_PL[21:12:06] <KapiX> let me check[21:12:06] <humdinger> let me see[21:12:34] <PulkoMandy> fixed[21:12:34] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, I could put something together and send it directly to you. Then you can make an informed decision on which way to go with it.[21:12:47] <KapiX> ok, thanks[21:12:52] <PulkoMandy> Vidrep: I'd say just throw it on the forum for now[21:12:56] *** [r4] <[r4]!~r4]@staticline-31-183-70-56.toya.net.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:13:07] <PulkoMandy> we can always promote it to an article or extract some trac tickets from it[21:13:17] <PulkoMandy> and with GCI I may not have time to dig into it in the next weeks[21:13:18] <Vidrep> OK[21:13:30] <humdinger> KapiX: it says to stack the stylededit window on top of the web+. so stylededit is visible. all OK?[21:13:53] <Vidrep> I originally meant to do this a week ago while it was fresh in my mind, but real life intervened[21:14:21] <KapiX> humdinger: stack links the tabs so either one, not both at once, is visible[21:14:22] <PulkoMandy> KapiX: you now have full wiki edit permissions[21:14:53] <KapiX> though I see now that there is instruction to arrange the windows so everything is visible[21:14:55] <humdinger> having the stylededit window visible is enough. it shows the student's name.[21:15:10] <KapiX> humdinger: OK[21:15:14] <PulkoMandy> well let's make it either stack or tile[21:15:34] *** Emrys <Emrys!~Emrys@178.138.35.84> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[21:15:39] <KapiX> I'd say tile[21:15:41] <humdinger> yes. doesn't really matter. tile is ok too... important is the visible nme[21:15:43] <humdinger> *name[21:16:06] <KapiX> OK, I will update the wiki[21:16:11] <PulkoMandy> I'm updating it :)[21:16:54] <PulkoMandy> done[21:17:13] <KapiX> PulkoMandy: thanks[21:21:05] *** Emrys <Emrys!~Emrys@178.138.35.84> has joined #haiku[21:22:49] <Vidrep> It doesn't look like photos or screenshots can be added as attachments in the forum. Am I missing something?[21:27:18] *** Wellenbrett <Wellenbrett!~Thunderbi@p20030072CF1D4A00C1E8187C566DAFD1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Wellenbrett)[21:39:54] <scottmc> task says to use a recent nightly image... website link to alpha4 links for a page saying alpha for is old and points to the nightlies, yet students still find a way to install alpha4.[21:40:08] *** Barrett__ <Barrett__!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[21:40:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett__[21:41:02] <KapiX> TBH I think alpha4 should be taken down, it causes more confusion than its worth and doesn't accurately represent state of the project[21:41:18] *** Barrett_ <Barrett_!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[21:43:20] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, this forum post is about the same topic: https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/last-rant-for-the-night/4229[21:44:24] <Vidrep> KapiX, I agree. It should be archived along with the previous alpha builds.[21:47:02] <PulkoMandy> well, help welcome making the next release[21:49:09] <kallisti5> Vidrep: the largest issue is lack of fresh blood to help out[21:49:24] <kallisti5> we're seeing a lot of users and few developers / dedicated community help[21:50:12] <kallisti5> I've pushed for Cyanogenmod style "Stablish snapshot builds" but never got much feedback[21:50:33] <KapiX> kallisti5 I think that's the way to go[21:50:37] <kallisti5> aka, once every month or two we release a "developer build" that is stable.[21:51:04] <KapiX> If we cannot have really stable releases, it's better than having something that is 3 years old in the frontpage[21:51:12] <kallisti5> KapiX: I agree, but my comments have fallen on deaf ears for a while now. Without suppot I can't get changes done like that[21:51:17] <kallisti5> *support[21:51:26] <KapiX> saying "help make next release" is avoiding the problem[21:51:40] <KapiX> when I get time for example, I work on apps which are needed too[21:51:41] <kallisti5> technically it isn't... because we need more help :P[21:51:55] <kallisti5> it's a joint issue[21:52:20] <kallisti5> we need devs to find time to take a hard look at making sane adjustments.[21:52:25] <kallisti5> and we need more devs[21:52:28] <kallisti5> ;-)[21:52:34] <PulkoMandy> I didn't say "help us make the beta"[21:52:54] <scottmc> hence one of the reasons we do GCI and GSoC, to help bring in fresh developers[21:53:02] <kallisti5> definitely.[21:53:02] <PulkoMandy> if you think the way is "stable nightly of the month", that works as a release too[21:53:09] <kallisti5> the lack of GSoC has hurt us[21:53:28] <PulkoMandy> well… how much of our GSoC students are still contributing?[21:53:44] <kallisti5> PulkoMandy: that helps adjust the "we don't have a "finished" release, but people want stablish stuff to play with"[21:53:58] <kallisti5> adjust isn't the right word there[21:54:03] <PulkoMandy> adress[21:54:07] <kallisti5> danke[21:54:30] <kallisti5> https://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/71095-whats-the-difference-between-stable-snapshot-and-nightly/[21:54:57] <PulkoMandy> well, in haikuware days there was lots of complaint about the ABI breaks in experimental APIs IIRC[21:55:02] <kallisti5> we could define 3 levels, and just not have a "stable" release right now[21:55:07] <PulkoMandy> we still get some of that from the yab people[21:55:33] <PulkoMandy> so, stable releases are needed for that, if devs want a fixed API/ABI to work on[21:56:17] <PulkoMandy> if they don't mind changing their code to follow the new APIs, then yes, nightlies are fine, and we can add an extra layer of testing to pick a "not broken" nightly from time to time[21:56:33] <PulkoMandy> someone has to do said testing, however[21:57:06] <PulkoMandy> otherwise, let's just have a "stable (old!)" and a "nightly (possibly broken!)" download links[21:57:16] <PulkoMandy> which is mostly what we have now I think?[21:57:46] <KapiX> PulkoMandy we don't[21:57:54] <KapiX> we have huge button Download alpha[21:58:02] <KapiX> and really small tab Nightly images[21:58:08] <kallisti5> I think the issue is people want something "a little more stable than nightly"[21:58:29] <kallisti5> and making monthly / bi-monthly releases would be good practice :-)[21:58:42] *** Beretta021 <Beretta021!~Beretta02@unaffiliated/beretta021> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:58:57] <kallisti5> If we jump into R1 is a high bar to jump to.[21:59:06] <kallisti5> ,it's a[21:59:09] <PulkoMandy> I don't care about practices, someone has to do the work of testing and picking a nightly every month[21:59:14] <PulkoMandy> and we don't have a QA team[21:59:26] <kallisti5> we could build one of community members[21:59:30] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kvirc@89-65-135-250.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:59:37] <kallisti5> but yeah, lots of work to make a process[21:59:46] <kallisti5> the big q: who would do that work[21:59:50] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kvirc@89-65-135-250.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #haiku[21:59:50] <PulkoMandy> the big download button points to: https://www.haiku-os.org/get-haiku[21:59:59] <PulkoMandy> with a red warning telling to try nightlies[22:00:13] <kallisti5> yeah. That is a bit confusing to new users though[22:00:23] <PulkoMandy> we can improve that page[22:01:01] <PulkoMandy> make it clear that there are two choices, both with possible drawbacks[22:01:04] <PulkoMandy> and let people decide[22:02:06] <KapiX> sounds like a good solution for now[22:02:35] <KapiX> the red warning implies that it might burn your computer or something[22:02:43] <kallisti5> That's true though :P[22:03:06] *** p74pat <p74pat!~p74pat@AAnnecy-653-1-65-200.w90-41.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #haiku[22:03:31] <KapiX> and alpha definitely won't do that?[22:03:56] <PulkoMandy> it probably won't boot anyway :D[22:04:09] <KapiX> both alpha and nightlies are supposed to be used at your own risk[22:04:26] <kallisti5> ok.. let me take a look at cleaning it up[22:06:37] <kallisti5> I think we should drop the iso downloads[22:06:41] <miqlas> ouch, inode=xy could not be opened...[22:06:43] <miqlas> again[22:06:55] <miqlas> this is the 4th time[22:07:08] <KapiX> kallisti5 what should I use in virtualbox then?[22:07:13] <kallisti5> anyboot[22:07:15] <KapiX> genuine question[22:07:16] *** p74pat <p74pat!~p74pat@AAnnecy-653-1-65-200.w90-41.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:07:21] <kallisti5> you can rename it as iso and use it[22:07:26] <KapiX> ah, ok[22:07:32] <kallisti5> pretty much our anyboot is 1:1 things like the ubuntu install cd[22:07:36] <KapiX> I didn't know that[22:07:49] <kallisti5> ubuntu's iso can be dd'ed to a USB flash disk or burned to an iso[22:07:57] <kallisti5> our anyboot acts the same way[22:08:06] <kallisti5> thus, why do we keep the seperate iso download?[22:08:17] <PulkoMandy> in case of compatibility issues with anyboot[22:08:37] * kallisti5 hasn't yet seen any compatibility issues[22:08:40] <kallisti5> has anyone else?[22:08:44] * KapiX too[22:08:45] <PulkoMandy> also, we will need to change anyboot to add UEFI boot support[22:09:23] <PulkoMandy> there have been some reports, yes. But to see the difference you have to write it on a CD, which I didn't do for a few years[22:09:25] <scottmc> i think for compatibility with some third party cd burning apps on "other" operating systems?[22:09:25] * kallisti5 downloads the anyboot and renames to iso to make 100% sure[22:09:34] <PulkoMandy> (most of my machines don't have a CD drive anymore anyway)[22:09:46] <kallisti5> scottmc: ... maybe? I still haven't seen that[22:09:52] <kallisti5> anyone got a mac to test on?[22:09:54] <PulkoMandy> scottmc: renaming the anyboot to .iso or even .image does the trick for that[22:10:12] <kallisti5> the fact we label anyboot an .image always seemed odd to me[22:10:25] <kallisti5> anyboot == isohybrid on linux[22:10:37] <kallisti5> isohybrid — Post-process an ISO 9660 image for booting as a hard disk.[22:10:41] <PulkoMandy> .image is used for any disk image format in our build system[22:10:50] *** miqlas-H <miqlas-H!~vision@dslb-084-057-156-024.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[22:10:52] <kallisti5> that's the magic ubuntu uses to "anyboot" their isos[22:10:53] <PulkoMandy> rename to .img and most burning apps will be happy with it[22:10:54] <miqlas-H> Hi[22:11:02] <miqlas-H> Any idea, what could i do now? http://chunk.io/f/5b259cc11ac14f489f52265e5a097ba3[22:11:09] <kallisti5> file haiku-r1alpha4-anyboot.image[22:11:10] <kallisti5> haiku-r1alpha4-anyboot.image: DOS/MBR boot sector ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data (DOS/MBR boot sector) 'bootimg' (bootable); partition 1 : ID=0xeb, active, start-CHS (0x3ff,255,63), end-CHS (0x3ff,255,63), startsector 8192, 1413120 sectors[22:13:04] <kallisti5> renamed anyboot.image to .iso and passed to virtualbox on linux, works as expected[22:15:48] <Vidrep> I gave up using the .iso images a while ago.[22:16:16] <Vidrep> anyboot seems to work well whether you're buring a CD or dd to a USB drive[22:16:22] <Vidrep> burning[22:16:37] <PulkoMandy> yes, that's the point of anyboot[22:17:28] <PulkoMandy> there were some reports of it not working on some late 90s hardware with weird BIOS IIRC. But given that few people are actually going to burn it to CD, maybe we should just not care[22:18:21] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy we were talking about that a few weeks ago when I was attempting to install Haiku on some old hardware[22:18:21] <Barrett__> gci task https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/9404 ?[22:18:23] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[22:19:12] <Vidrep> Using the installer to mount a CD image and install to another partition[22:19:59] <Vidrep> It can only be done with the anyboot images because they're BFS filesystem.[22:20:00] <kallisti5> the anyboot should look just like an iso tho[22:20:03] <scottmc> Barrett__ I have some cd laying around, will check it in the next weeks.[22:20:27] <scottmc> that was 15 months ago.... still got CDs laying around to recheck with?[22:20:45] <Barrett__> I don't have a drive atm[22:21:14] <PulkoMandy> kallisti5: well, the technology is different. ISO is a plain ISO9660 filesystem, with overlays to handle attributes and writing (cached to RAM)[22:21:43] <PulkoMandy> anyboot has a small ISO9660 part with a boot image, but then an actual BFS filesystem embedded, which doesn't need the attribute overlay[22:22:50] <Vidrep> I was unable to install Haiku alpha 1 due to the unavailablilty of a anyboot image, which was not until alpha 2[22:23:47] <mmu_man> OMG just out for 3h and 3 pages of log in the GCI dashboard :p[22:25:11] <miqlas> after running checkfs 3 times in a row it is clean now. phew....[22:25:19] <Vidrep> "But given that few people are actually going to burn it to CD..." I'm one of the few :)[22:26:09] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-195-72.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[22:29:07] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d869bf3.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[22:33:32] <scottmc> did anyone manage to get haiku to compile on windows 10? I heard it ran into not being able to handle a : in a file name?[22:34:38] <miqlas> i think it isn't supported yet[22:35:01] <miqlas> oco worked on that, see the BG report from PulkoMandy[22:36:40] <kallisti5> just emauled out[22:37:08] <kallisti5> you can mount the anyboot as an iso loopback[22:37:22] <kallisti5> and it has boot.catalog,haiku-boot-floppy.image,README.html[22:37:34] <kallisti5> seems like a good place for an EFI loader :-)[22:38:08] <PulkoMandy> can EFI run from ISO9660? or does it need a FAT16 partition?[22:38:21] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:38:24] <PulkoMandy> or does it needs both depending on if this is booted as a CD or USB device?[22:38:24] <kallisti5> uefi can load from iso9660[22:38:35] <kallisti5> there is a default directory it looks for[22:38:40] <kallisti5> and a little iso magic I think[22:38:45] <mmu_man> and not from BFS? :D[22:39:26] <kallisti5> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pjones/BootableCDsForBIOSAndUEFI[22:39:43] <kallisti5> we'll likely need to add some magic to our anyboot code (which i've never looked at )[22:40:35] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)[22:41:19] <PulkoMandy> there isn't much code IIRC, it's a shell script playing with dd and mkisofs[22:41:36] <kallisti5> heh.. if mkisofs is involved, then it should be easy to inject efi bits[22:41:46] <kallisti5> yeah... death to iso[22:41:50] <kallisti5> long live anyboot iso[22:42:13] <kallisti5> anyway, i emauled... wait for feedback before I do anything[22:43:17] *** miqlas-H <miqlas-H!~vision@dslb-084-057-156-024.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[22:44:06] <bbjimmy> yab will not display the text if the font is not installed.[22:44:56] <mmu_man> define "the font"[22:45:19] <mmu_man> do apps specify which font they want instead of using the system default ??[22:45:35] <mmu_man> or is it yab which hardcodes DejaVu somewherE?[22:45:50] <KapiX> mmu_man yes, yab doesn't allow to specify size and font separately[22:45:54] <bbjimmy> DejaVu[22:46:06] <KapiX> so when only size change is needed font has to be specified too[22:46:09] <bbjimmy> Vision does[22:46:58] <PulkoMandy> app_server will default to VL-Gothic if the requested font is not found IIRC[22:47:02] <bbjimmy> One must specify the font for the chat window in Vision[22:47:08] <PulkoMandy> (assuming you have that installed…)[22:47:27] *** Emrys <Emrys!~Emrys@178.138.35.84> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[22:49:23] <bbjimmy> It looks like we only scan for new fonts on boot.[22:50:57] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-084-057-156-024.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:50:58] <PulkoMandy> app_server should be monitoring the directories, but maybe that doesn't work[22:51:06] <PulkoMandy> or maybe only new apps 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