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[00:12:22] <HAIKU-irker082> 8a8384b47f02: media_client test: Include debug header
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[01:01:33] <Vidrep> Hi
[01:02:22] <Vidrep> Barrett, are MediaPlayer enhancements in your department?
[01:04:07] <Vidrep> Specifically, I am referring to audio CD's
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[01:14:16] <Vidrep> There's some kind of issue with audio CD playback in MediaPlayer now as well
[01:15:28] <Vidrep> Audio cuts out and stutters intermittently. This is on two different PC's, using several different audio CD's. So unlikely that it's the optical drive
[01:18:07] <Vidrep> AlienSoldier are you around?
[01:22:02] <Vidrep> I'm also noticing that on quiet passages there is a lot of popping and crackling noises, like playing an old scratchy vinyl LP
[01:23:22] <Vidrep> Switching PC's...
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[01:43:06] <Goggen> Hello. Do you know if Haiku runs well on Intel NUC computers?
[01:46:48] <IIsi50MHz> Haven't tried it, but I do run one on a Vaio B100B, which is quite old and single core. Just 1.5 GB RAM.
[01:47:37] <tidux[m]> Goggen: it should, considering that intel-everything systems like Thinkpads typically work well with open drivers
[01:47:45] <Goggen> I regret selling my Acer Aspire 5610Z, it was 100% compatible. I haven´t had Haiku on real hardware for ages.
[01:47:49] <tidux[m]> and you don't have to worry about battery life or any of the other laptop shenanigans
[01:49:57] <AlienSoldier> Goggen i don't know, usually weird video chip is the problem with that kind of PC. You can always ask intel to test a nightly, the more we bother hardware manufacturer for support the best chance we have because at one point they will have to make driver or we are toast
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[02:34:12] <HAIKU-irker082> 7dffccc308a8: tcp: Update comment to reflect we support window scaling
[02:34:13] <HAIKU-irker082> d6767017529a: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.haiku-os.org/haiku
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[08:59:19] <PulkoMandy> humdinger: hi!
[08:59:32] <humdinger> hi PulkoMandy!
[08:59:36] <PulkoMandy> I'm reviewing your task for screenshots/icons/categories
[08:59:49] <humdinger> ok. too long? :)
[09:00:01] <PulkoMandy> in the wiki page you ask students to submit their work to the GCI website, is there no way to add it to the HDS directly?
[09:00:02] * IIsiHaiku lays out small cakes, returns to Lisp
[09:00:18] <PulkoMandy> this is because after the contest ends, the GCI website is put in archive mode and attachments are lost
[09:00:32] <humdinger> PulkoMandy: well, we'd have to give everyone writepermissions there...
[09:00:41] <PulkoMandy> no, long tasks are good. students should learn that long and detailed instructions means less exploration and more following the instructions
[09:00:49] <humdinger> But importing it all backshould be pretty simple.
[09:00:56] <PulkoMandy> ok
[09:00:59] <humdinger> one spreadsheet, one tgz file
[09:01:08] <PulkoMandy> let's have a "note to mentors" about this somewhere then
[09:01:25] <PulkoMandy> maybe store the work in some github if we have too much students and can't process it realtime
[09:01:37] <PulkoMandy> ok, fine then
[09:03:26] <humdinger> Do you know if I can somehow batch-add me as mentor to tasks?
[09:03:39] <humdinger> or do only admins have that feature?
[09:04:19] <PulkoMandy> not even admins can batch things with the default web interface
[09:04:35] <PulkoMandy> I'm thinking of writing an app to do things with the API
[09:04:36] <humdinger> pfft...
[09:04:42] <PulkoMandy> (that's how we are supposed to handle things apparently)
[09:05:03] <PulkoMandy> well, this or hand-crafted JSON requests
[09:06:14] <humdinger> I could co-mentor all the recipe tasks, if it's just to relief the other mentors of the simple questions...
[09:07:01] <PulkoMandy> I'm trying to have all mentors with about the same number of tasks
[09:07:23] <PulkoMandy> except the task count per mentor is updated only once every 2 days or so
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[09:07:39] <PulkoMandy> and the answer from GCI support is… use the API if you want realtime stats
[09:08:07] <humdinger> says "10 assigned tasks" for me. I could do one or two more... :)
[09:08:27] <PulkoMandy> ?
[09:08:34] <PulkoMandy> I see 19 in the global list
[09:08:40] <PulkoMandy> so it can't even count things right?
[09:08:51] <humdinger> or the dashboard is lying.
[09:09:02] <PulkoMandy> well, one of them doesn't count things right :>
[09:10:21] <humdinger> the list of tasks shows 20. :)
[09:10:43] <PulkoMandy> so the dashboard doesn't know how to count :/
[09:11:18] <PulkoMandy> should I add the task about completing platform support (and other stuff) on osgameclones.com, or is that too far out of Haiku scope?
[09:13:03] <humdinger> what do you mean "platform supprt"?
[09:13:40] <PulkoMandy> I'm mostly interested in wether each game is ported to Haiku or not
[09:13:57] <PulkoMandy> but we could ask student to add infos for other platforms as well (windows/linux)
[09:15:33] <humdinger> "Find a game not in this huge list and add a link to its wiki page and repo"? not an attractive task... :)
[09:19:07] <PulkoMandy> well, completing the existing games is already some work (adding screenshots, etc)
[09:19:41]
<PulkoMandy> maybe we start with asking students to contribute to http://gamingonhaiku.cf (if adrian agrees with accepting other's articles there)
[09:20:29] <humdinger> that's more like it!
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[14:15:45] <jammi> so, is there ever going to be a another release; why be stuck with a 3-year old alpha 4.1, when there could be monthly alphas 5, 6, 7, ..∞ or something?
[14:16:05] <jammi> or is it basically 4 years now?
[14:21:19] <Barrett> jammi, stable package repositories are blocking the beta
[14:21:30] <Barrett> and it seems we're near that
[14:21:38] <jammi> yeah, but what's preventing another alpha?
[14:21:48] <jammi> can't be worse than the one already out there, right?
[14:21:53] <Barrett> we don't want to stick in an alpha loop
[14:22:49] <jammi> ok, so rather an "back from the dead" thing once in 5 years or something?
[14:23:28] <Barrett> jammi, once the beta is released a new path will begin
[14:23:58] <Barrett> and we can backport packages and fixes from the master tree
[14:24:18] <jammi> so what's preventing something like beta 1,2,3 -> next will be release -> 10 years of wait
[14:24:39] <Barrett> jammi, feel free to contribute
[14:25:51] <jammi> I thought the point of alphas and betas are for public testing, to find the bugs established developers and nightly testers of the platform won't spot
[14:27:16] <jammi> and also as marketing to show the project is alive to recruit more developers, testers and so forth
[14:27:24] <Barrett> I don't see what's the point
[14:27:55] <Barrett> it was unexpected the alpha would be there that long
[14:28:19] <Barrett> but atm we can't change past decisions and we're now near the beta
[14:28:59] <Barrett> also I didn't vote that, so can't say much as live with that for now
[14:29:06] <Barrett> nightlies are enough stable
[14:29:15] <jammi> sure, but that's exactly how it was 3-4 years ago until I got bored; "no further alphas, since beta is just months away"
[14:29:52] <jammi> and meanwhile the updating to random nightlies slowly messed up the vm setup
[14:31:29] <Barrett> if there are regressions fill a ticket
[14:31:39] <Barrett> or better attach a patch
[14:32:08] <Barrett> Haiku is a volounteer project
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[14:34:56] <Barrett> ValeT, will you mentor for GCI this year?
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[14:51:26] <ValeT> Yes Barrett
[14:51:29] <ValeT> That is the plan :D
[14:51:50] <ValeT> Sorry for the late response just got onto my computer
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[15:33:50] <DCatt> Greetings to all of you in Haiku nation!
[15:47:23] <axeld> Nation?
[15:50:15] <Barrett_> ValeT, nice
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[16:00:37] <ValeT> yea I'm excited to be able to participate again
[16:00:52] <ValeT> Barrett_, are you going to be a mentor again?
[16:01:06] <Barrett_> yep since ever
[16:05:44] <ValeT> awesome :D
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[17:42:18] <HAIKU-irker082> eebedf8f1aaf: MediaClient: Use unique id for both inputs and outputs
[17:42:19] <HAIKU-irker082> 6d0255216e3d: MediaClient: Introduce BMediaInput and BMediaOutput
[17:42:20] <HAIKU-irker082> 9e9655ed55fe: MediaClient: Use CurrentTime for both offline and performance time
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[17:48:44] <Dane__> Hey all
[17:49:20] <Dane__> I'm drawing a blank...what's the option in Haiku that tells it, after a reboot, not to open the same folder windows that were open prior to the reboot?
[17:50:23] <humdinger> hi Dane__: I don't think you can.
[17:50:33] <humdinger> Tracker remembers
[17:53:14] <Barrett_> !notme
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[18:03:46] <HaikuUser> humdinger thanks
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[18:04:03] <humdinger> sorr to disappoint. :)
[18:04:06] <Dane___> np
[18:07:44] <Barrett_> Dane__, I guess you can add a close all script at boot BTW
[18:07:54] <Barrett_> using scripting
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[18:10:14] <Dane___> Barrett_ Ah, that's good to know. It's actually for a customer, I'll just tell him to make sure he closes his windows before he reboots. Not that big of a deal.
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[18:48:50] <humdinger> Dane__: quickest with SHIFT+ALT+W, btw.
[18:48:56] <humdinger> or from Desnkbar, of course
[18:49:25] <humdinger> or Deskbar... sigh
[18:50:26] <humdinger> I'd like to build Haiku with a new freetype 2.7. but it fails, because it's not found in the haikuports repo yet...
[18:50:42] <humdinger> I put it in generated/download, but it still complains...
[18:50:51] <humdinger> any idea how to solve that?
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[19:10:02] <Vidrep> Hi
[19:10:21] <humdinger> hullo Vidrep
[19:10:29] <Vidrep> Hi humdinger
[19:10:44] <Vidrep> Getting ready for GCI, I see
[19:11:40] <Vidrep> I have a "problem", and need some feedback. This is in regard to a external USB optical drive
[19:12:52] <Vidrep> I have a HP external USB optical drive. Haiku can only mount the disc in the drive if it is data, but not an audio CD
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[19:15:00] <humdinger> No idea...
[19:15:34] <Vidrep> If I put a Haiku CD in it, it automounts. Same with any other disc with data. With an audio CD, I get an error "Could not mount partition "". Error: Invalid arguement."
[19:16:08] <Vidrep> This occurs with any audio CD.
[19:18:34] <Vidrep> I guess this means "Create another ticket in trac"
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[19:34:04] <Lelldorin1> hi leszek
[19:34:40] <bbjimmy> How do I get haiku to execute a script on shutdown?
[19:36:20] <humdinger> got a nice number though...
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[19:38:00] <Lelldorin1> leszek: interesting question
[19:38:22] <Lelldorin1> leszek: on startup is no problem but at shutdown, i never hear something like this
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[19:38:49] <bbjimmy> It would be nice to allow the user to automaticly cleane up things before the shutdown is run.
[19:39:03] <humdinger> definitely
[19:39:20] <bbjimmy> *clean-up
[19:42:20] <Lelldorin1> UserShutdownScript
[19:42:51] <humdinger> nope. that's what bbjimmy was asking for and #4444 was created
[19:43:31] <Lelldorin1> a ok, i tried the like for some minutes and i get a broken site, but now it is running
[19:48:02] <Lelldorin1> bbjimmy: have you tried to place the useshutdownscript into /boot/home/config/non-packaged/boot?
[19:49:19] <mmu_man> hmm might be broken since launch_daemon
[19:50:52] <humdinger> mmu_man: or before... see #4444
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[19:57:24] <mmu_man> eh
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[20:11:33] <Vidrep> It is certainly still valid as I am experiencing this exact issue now
[20:13:12] <Lelldorin1> Vidrep: cloed because a dublicate entry
[20:16:54] <Vidrep> Lelldorin1, the comment by waddlesplash is inaccurate then, especially as he refers to CDPlayer.
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[20:20:51] <Vidrep> I just added a comment to ticket 6181. Not much I can do otherwise.
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[20:39:59] <bbjimmy> Dane__ I have a script i placed in /boot/home/config/settings/boot/launch that will insure that no Tracker Windows are opened on boot/re-boot.
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