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[01:04:17] <ValeT> Hey Vidrep!!!!!
[01:04:21] <ValeT> Sorry, was at school :D
[01:04:30] <ValeT> I'm doing well thank you
[01:04:32] <ValeT> How are you?
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[01:21:14] <jakeronhutch> i want to completely remove all encryption from R1A4 - how hard to do?
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[01:27:32] <Vidrep> Hey ValeT. I figured you were probably in class
[01:28:13] <Vidrep> ValeT, did you get the message I left for you on LinkedIn?
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[01:39:52] <ValeT> No? Sorry :(
[01:39:59] <ValeT> I haven't checked it in over a year
[01:40:12] <Vidrep> Oh well...
[01:40:24] <ValeT> Ill check later tonight :D
[01:40:27] <ValeT> So how's it been?
[01:41:06] <Vidrep> Good and bad. Bad - not working. Good - time to do things other than work.
[01:41:25] <ValeT> Oh im sorry
[01:41:30] <ValeT> How is your wife's business?
[01:41:30] <Vidrep> How's school?
[01:42:01] <Vidrep> Her business was doing really good over the summer, but now it's slowing down somewhat.
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[01:43:35] <ValeT> Oh ok
[01:43:42] <ValeT> Did you guys expect it to slow down in the fall?
[01:44:03] <Vidrep> Yeah. It's normal.
[01:44:29] <Vidrep> We'll probably break even or lose a little money over the winter.
[01:45:53] <Vidrep> Are you still into robotics?
[01:47:21] <ValeT> I'm sorry that's rough
[01:47:29] <ValeT> School is alright...
[01:47:39] <ValeT> Yes, I'm the leader of my school's robotics team this year
[01:47:58] <ValeT> We are the only high school team to compete in http://www.auvsi-suas.org/
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[01:48:38] <Vidrep> I guess you're ineligible for GCI this year?
[01:48:49] <ValeT> Hahaha yea but I'm gonna be a mentor
[01:49:01] <ValeT> So you will get to continue to hear more from me for a full 8 weeks :D
[01:49:19] <Vidrep> For whom?
[01:49:23] <Vidrep> Haiku?
[01:50:04] <ValeT> yea
[01:50:37] <Vidrep> Really? That's funny
[01:51:00] <Vidrep> I remember what you said to me after the last one.
[01:51:17] <Vidrep> Glad to see you back!
[01:51:34] <ValeT> What did I say after the last one?
[01:51:41] <ValeT> Thank you! Its nice to see some familiar faces
[01:51:59] <ValeT> And I'm glad to hear your wife's business was doing well!
[01:52:02] <Vidrep> We had that private chat...
[01:52:07] <ValeT> oh
[01:52:08] <ValeT> yea :D
[01:52:10] <ValeT> I forgot
[01:53:17] <ValeT> My sentiment's are still the same
[01:53:23] <ValeT> But I think it is a good thing to do
[01:53:28] <ValeT> Both for me and for Haiku
[01:53:42] <ValeT> And I REALLY want to get the hardware repository working
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[01:54:08] <Vidrep> It's been dormant since you left
[01:54:46] <Vidrep> humdinger, myself and lelldorin had a few discussions about what to do with it
[01:54:58] <ValeT> yea i've seen the little action...
[01:55:09] <ValeT> I'm hoping we can get a kid who is really good at web design
[01:55:13] <ValeT> who will want to work on it
[01:55:19] <ValeT> Cause I need the help on the visual aspect
[01:55:45] <Vidrep> Some of the devs were looking for someone with python a few weeks ago
[01:56:44] <ValeT> IM HEREEEEEEE
[01:56:47] <ValeT> What did they want?
[01:57:05] <Vidrep> I can't remember exactly what the issue was. I remember mentioning your name as someone who had experience in python scripting
[01:57:28] <ValeT> rip
[01:57:31] <Vidrep> You'd have to look through the IRC logs, or wait until PulkoMandy is around
[01:57:42] <ValeT> gotcha
[01:57:49] <ValeT> ill catch pulko this week
[01:57:57] <ValeT> how's the car coming along btw?
[01:58:14] <Vidrep> :(((
[01:58:32] <Vidrep> It's till the same as last time we talked about it
[01:58:35] <Vidrep> still
[01:59:14] <Vidrep> No incentive to finish the job
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[01:59:49] <ValeT> oh I'm sad to hear it. You put so much time into it
[01:59:59] <ValeT> Too busy with helping your wife out and such?
[02:00:27] <ValeT> I guess that's understandable...You don't always get the chance to do what you want :(
[02:00:53] <Vidrep> No money to insure the car
[02:01:21] <Vidrep> I have done some more work here and there
[02:04:49] <Vidrep> ValeT, did you ever finish the Tipster app?
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[02:06:54] <ValeT> No, I took a break after Hannah started working on it
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[02:07:17] <ValeT> and then I never got back to it
[02:07:23] <ValeT> Hopefully we can get that finalized this year too
[02:08:23] <ValeT> ok so i got locked out of linked in :D
[02:08:29] <ValeT> heh
[02:09:45] <Vidrep> All I said was "Hi, how are you? Blah, blah blah...
[02:10:14] <Vidrep> No need to read it now :)
[02:11:33] <ValeT> Well now I feel like I should
[02:11:43] <ValeT> I just didn't know that you contacted me
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[02:11:47] <ValeT> it never sent me an email... :(
[02:12:28] <Vidrep> When was the last time you used Haiku?
[02:12:58] <ValeT> I was messing around with it a few weeks ago
[02:13:06] <ValeT> but then i got a new computer so I haven't put it back on yet
[02:13:18] <ValeT> you?
[02:13:25] <Vidrep> Every day
[02:14:20] <ValeT> wow nice
[02:14:28] <ValeT> i see development has kind of stalled...
[02:14:56] <Vidrep> There were a few changes that introduced some new bugs
[02:15:33] <ValeT> rip
[02:15:52] <Vidrep> I know they'll be fixed eventually
[02:16:16] <ValeT> *eventually*
[02:16:17] <ValeT> lol
[02:16:42] <Vidrep> "Patches Welcome!" LOL :D
[02:17:23] <ValeT> lol
[02:18:19] <Vidrep> Quite a few things ahve been fixed insofar as hardware, so that made me happy
[02:18:42] <Vidrep> *have
[02:19:06] <Vidrep> Particularly with the Radeon HD drivers
[02:19:36] <Vidrep> Intel graphics is still a work-in-progress
[02:20:25] <ValeT> wow that's awesome
[02:20:33] <ValeT> So how many people are still around?
[02:20:36] <ValeT> from last year?
[02:21:13] <scottmc> 129
[02:21:34] <Vidrep> Devs or just "people"?
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[02:21:39] <scottmc> including you
[02:22:31] <ValeT> hahaha thanks @scottmc
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[02:24:37] <scottmc> if you look at the activity chart of commits on github, you'll note that as heavy work on Haiku slowed down, the activity on HaikuPorts ramped up. As there's where the bulk of the easier low hanging fruit is.
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[02:27:04] <ValeT> ah ok
[02:27:45] <Vidrep> Lots of work being put into getting the package builders up and running as well
[02:28:17] <ValeT> That's good to see
[02:28:39] <Vidrep> Hmmmm, that might be where they needed python scripting :/
[02:29:08] <Vidrep> Chat with PulkoMandy, because I probably have it all wrong
[02:29:39] <Vidrep> Dinner time
[02:30:00] <Vidrep> See you later! Glad to see you back!
[02:30:06] <Vidrep> Bye
[02:30:18] <ValeT> Adios!
[02:30:28] <ValeT> I'll be back Sunday...I have a robotics event all of tomorrow
[02:30:34] <ValeT> Nice talking to you @Vidrep
[02:48:37] <ValeT> I gotta go to bed
[02:48:41] <ValeT> night everyone!
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[17:20:55] <mmu_man> https://twitter.com/mmu_man/status/800010076627070980
[17:20:57] <mmu_man> :)
[17:21:25] <humdinger> Adrien!
[17:21:34] <humdinger> The crowd goes wild! \o/
[17:22:48] <mmu_man> :)
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[18:22:52] <humdinger> Hi there! Anyone wants to supply more catkeys for Clipdinger?
[18:22:55] <humdinger> See https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/catkeys-translators-needed-for-3rd-party-apps/4094
[18:23:29] <humdinger> I'll release a new version soon. The Russian catkeys only need a few changes...
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[18:34:52] <Vidrep> Hi
[18:35:42] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, regarding the "Bootman" ticket, please delete the comments and attachments
[18:36:06] <Vidrep> I'll look further into the issue I'm having and create a new ticket if need be
[18:37:07] <Vidrep> Perhaps it's a little early to be experimenting with GPT partitions and UEFI boot before it has been fully implemented
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[19:14:33] * humdinger wishes the 100+ users of the "Where are you from" thread would chip in some catkeys
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[19:24:01] <miqlas-H> hi
[19:24:08] <mmu_man> plop
[19:24:09] <mmu_man> bbl
[19:25:01] <humdinger> hullo
[19:25:08] <miqlas-H> Braking news, i got the currenct arch shouwed up in my terminal: http://chunk.io/f/8f098d4612364c9ba60abb64a1e82f09
[19:25:23] <miqlas-H> Hi mmu! What's up with nodejs?
[19:26:33] <mmu_man> not much, been busy with the Fair Money Meeting then Capitole du Libre (we have a booth and 2 talks) :)
[19:27:10] <miqlas-H> then let me know, how can i help you. Is there any deps what i could port for you?
[19:28:09] <mmu_man> I'll have to check
[19:28:30] <mmu_man> bbl
[19:29:42] <miqlas-H> Let me propose the folloving idea: as i oftly have problems with nullpointers in my task list, let me know all the time, what you need, and let see what i can do fotr that. Opinions?
[19:32:24] <humdinger> Best would be to to file an issue, label "help-needed", for everything that's needed at the haikuports github.
[19:32:38] <humdinger> then you can generate your todo list from that, miqlas-H. :)
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[19:33:08] <miqlas-H> ofc you have right
[19:35:59] <miqlas> humi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lCMIf-jFKQ
[19:37:14] <humdinger> not my kind of music, I'm afraid.
[19:37:31] <humdinger> puckipedia: you there?
[19:37:52] <puckipedia> humdinger: yeah
[19:38:03] <humdinger> hi :)
[19:38:14] <humdinger> puckipedia: what about merging these PRs: https://github.com/puckipedia/BeLocalized/pulls
[19:38:38] <puckipedia> (Sorry, haven't done a ton with Haiku lately. I found out that Intel is working on something called VGT-G which makes virtual GPUs on an intel iGPU)
[19:38:41] <humdinger> Brian's PR that adds importing is working nicely.
[19:39:07] <puckipedia> humdinger: that's #21, right?
[19:39:17] <humdinger> puckipedia: nice. sounds cryptic to my ears... :)
[19:39:29] <humdinger> yes. the other is even older.. :)
[19:39:35] <humdinger> ru.catkeys
[19:39:39] <puckipedia> humdinger: basically, that allows multiple virtual machines to share one intel graphics card
[19:40:26] <humdinger> I see.
[19:40:45] * humdinger drives on metal, so... not for him
[19:41:12] <puckipedia> yeah, my hardware is a bit too new for that... USB3 everywhere, and the USB2 card is kinda glitchy. Also I have dual screens
[19:41:14] <puckipedia> just merged it btw
[19:41:27] <humdinger> seen. thanks!
[19:41:44] <miqlas-H> i'm thinking about tuning my ipod with sd card
[19:41:51] <puckipedia> the nice thing is that if VGT-g works with the intel_extreme driver, this would allow it to do hardware acceleration inside a virtual window, or just taking up one screen.
[19:42:29] <miqlas-H> 512 gb would be cool, hovewer my actual music folder is just 250 gb, but it is already bigger than the capacity of my ipod (160gb)
[19:42:47] <puckipedia> and if I can do that, I could e.g. run a Haiku VM on one screen, and a Windows VM on another screen, and I can shuffle one of those screens 'out' to replace them with Linux again
[19:43:14] <puckipedia> kinda like KVM, but without any extra cost to me
[19:43:37] <humdinger> I can see the appeal for multi-OS people.
[19:44:05] <puckipedia> and since it emulates everything, the only OS that has to handle the hardware is Linux, which it can mostly do for Skylake now...
[19:44:47] <humdinger> neat.
[19:45:08] <puckipedia> and that should mean that even though I have +-only USB 3, Haiku could be set up to only 'see' USB
[19:45:10] <puckipedia> USB2*
[19:46:09] <humdinger> nice. working native USB3 would be even better though. :)
[19:46:30] <humdinger> Anyone know what's to be done with missing replicant handles of stuff on the Desktop?
[19:46:52] <puckipedia> I do wonder what the performance hit would be to run Haiku with non-emulated GPU, but everything else virtualized. I think it's pretty good
[19:47:20] <miqlas-H> humdinger: enable the replicants in the Haiku menu.
[19:47:25] <puckipedia> (I did some experiment to pass through the intel GPU in a slightly other way, it basically started glitching hard, and repeating a small amount of video RAM over the screen)
[19:47:57] <humdinger> miqlas-H: doesn't work on those old replicants. Works on a newly added one...
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[19:59:50] <miqlas-H> humdinger: sudo update desktop-replicants
[20:00:22] <humdinger> heh. I could remove the tracker_shelf, of course...
[20:01:05] <miqlas-H> there was a replicant manager program for beos...
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[20:51:48] <humdinger> Hey Dane__!
[20:52:20] <humdinger> just wondering, did you get my mail wrt to your copy-file-adding-the-date issue? did it help?
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[23:01:45] <enjoi> ahoy mateys!
[23:01:53] <enjoi> and mateyettes
[23:02:38] <enjoi> Would anyone happen to know how you would remove the top title bar within an application by chance?
[23:02:57] <enjoi> I was attempting to google it, not even sure what to call it lol
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[23:09:49] <AlienSoldier> enjoi the "yellow tab" This was explained in the Bebook from what i remembered. Not all app allow that, it need to be supported by the app.
[23:11:10] <enjoi> oh I see
[23:11:42] <enjoi> I was actually looking to help with improvements on this slowly but surely
[23:12:05] <enjoi> starting with a real deskbar and application organization! :P
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[23:16:00] <AlienSoldier> the deskbar is not real enough? :P
[23:16:07] <enjoi> I see there is dbus support that is handy
[23:16:32] <enjoi> haha I am OCD it drives me partially that much more insane when I click on it and view the apps
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[23:17:17] <enjoi> I can make it so much prettier!
[23:17:23] <enjoi> and I shall!
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[23:17:48] <enjoi> I will start a basic project with the yellow duckwing and work from there
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[23:22:07] <AlienSoldier> enjoi trick, make a good and effcient thing and the prettyness will emerge without any effort
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[23:24:59] <enjoi> I am quite happy to see beos continued
[23:26:17] <enjoi> Why not make this compatible with both ELF as well as PE formats..
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[23:35:39] <miqlas> enjoi: what would it bring us?
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[23:56:20] <Chloe> please dont remove VLGothic
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