November 16, 2016 
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November 16, 2016 [00:12:46] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@220.157.229.123> has quit IRC (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)[01:23:36] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[01:24:15] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@cpe-65-190-53-197.nc.res.rr.com> has joined #haiku[01:24:18] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@cpe-65-190-53-197.nc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:31:20] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!lawarias@pool-71-174-122-98.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has joined #haiku[01:36:15] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!~xemdetia@129.42.208.167> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:37:48] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:df54:60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:43:20] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!lawarias@pool-71-174-122-98.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:58:24] *** gazelle007 <gazelle007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-fguqtweiwuvvyiov> has joined #haiku[02:05:18] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #haiku[02:07:35] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has joined #haiku[02:18:46] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:37:34] *** return0e_ <return0e_!~return0e@178-78-68-13.static.kc.net.uk> has quit IRC ()[02:55:55] <jessicah> Destroyfx: you should be able to install jdk/jre via haikudepot/pkgman[03:03:17] *** vdamewood <vdamewood!~vdamewood@unaffiliated/vdamewood> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[03:03:46] *** vinleod <vinleod!~vdamewood@unaffiliated/vdamewood> has joined #haiku[03:10:26] *** Barrett__ <Barrett__!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[03:20:28] *** vinleod is now known as vdamewood[03:20:46] <Gareth[m]> How is Haiku going?[03:23:57] *** TMM <TMM!~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[03:24:09] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x55b5f9b1.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[03:24:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[03:25:02] *** TMM <TMM!~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm> has joined #haiku[03:28:26] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x55b5f9b1.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[04:20:18] *** vdamewood <vdamewood!~vdamewood@unaffiliated/vdamewood> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[04:22:10] <Destroyfx> jessicah, from haikudepot it's too old as only version 7 is available. Maybe I can find a package for the 1.8[04:24:18] <jessicah> 1.7 is too old? :([04:25:02] <jessicah> you'll probably have to build 1.8 then[04:25:05] <Destroyfx> for Intellij IDE, yes[04:31:17] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@c-98-209-68-103.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[04:33:48] <Destroyfx> jessicah: It's the plan. but can't download the source from the repo right now.. abort: stream ended unexpectedly (got 19891 bytes, expected 38543)[04:35:07] *** HaikuUser2 is now known as SMCollins[04:35:12] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.95> has joined #haiku[04:35:40] <SMCollins> if I update my install will it break the SSH tunnel configuration pulkomandy setup on my machine ?[04:50:33] *** SMCollins <SMCollins!~vision@c-98-209-68-103.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[04:50:37] *** _Dario <_Dario!vision@181.47.131.95> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[05:07:50] *** gazelle007 <gazelle007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-fguqtweiwuvvyiov> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[06:38:08] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-195-72.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[06:38:11] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-195-72.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:39:51] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-195-72.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[06:48:57] *** IIsiHaiku <IIsiHaiku!~2si@107.188.207.190> has joined #haiku[06:49:18] <IIsiHaiku> hrev50675 booting on Vaio B100B![06:49:51] <IIsiHaiku> Had to enable failsafe video, and booting takes about 9m30s.[06:50:04] <IIsiHaiku> Looong delay after the Rocket icon lights up. (:[06:51:40] <IIsiHaiku> Still no wi-fi, but meh. Project for another day.[06:53:38] * IIsiHaiku reverts to whatever olde hrev is on the Vaio's HD, returns the hrev50675 USB stick to one of the desktop computers[06:53:50] <IIsiHaiku> Now back to maths. |-:[06:57:41] *** mounty <mounty!~mounty@c110-23-125-201.rochd7.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #haiku[06:59:16] *** IIsiHaiku <IIsiHaiku!~2si@107.188.207.190> has quit IRC (Quit: "NO Casio calculators! Either a TI-83 or TI-84--the Plus is ok. No Nspire. No other brands of calculators. NO Casios!" -- What's this monopolistic nonsense?)[07:11:48] <PulkoMandy> SMCollins[07:12:05] <PulkoMandy> hi, the ssh tunnel will not break if you update[07:12:38] <PulkoMandy> it is started by a script in config/settings/launch or wherever these scripts are, which is run at boot to reconnect[07:17:07] *** gazelle007 <gazelle007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-nzzdlztyvgkpxtys> has joined #haiku[07:25:44] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db432e9.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[07:25:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[07:30:19] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db432e9.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[07:51:49] *** mikeh <mikeh!~mikeh@S010600259ce59399.vn.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[08:00:02] *** premoboss <premoboss!~utente@37.227.123.40> has joined #haiku[08:06:56] *** premoboss <premoboss!~utente@37.227.123.40> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[08:31:16] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-195-72.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:38:10] *** LaceySnr <LaceySnr!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[08:40:10] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@aus31-1-78-207-239-160.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[08:41:34] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[08:42:56] *** LaceySnr <LaceySnr!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[08:43:59] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-196-2-189.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:44:14] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-91-209-96.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #haiku[08:44:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[08:49:50] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85b3cf.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[08:49:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[08:58:11] *** mikeh <mikeh!~mikeh@174.7.253.137> has joined #haiku[08:59:13] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[09:01:25] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[09:28:58] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #haiku[09:41:02] *** premoboss <premoboss!~utente@net-2-39-53-56.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[09:49:26] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@55d44f64.access.ecotel.net> has joined #haiku[09:50:51] *** TMM <TMM!~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[09:51:08] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@2001:638:50a:232:a464:11e0:ed68:fa> has joined #haiku[09:55:38] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[09:58:13] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@2001:984:357c:1:f481:229a:5cb4:687d> has joined #haiku[09:59:06] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@2001:984:357c:1:f481:229a:5cb4:687d> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:59:17] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@2001:984:357c:1:f481:229a:5cb4:687d> has joined #haiku[10:00:50] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@14-201-186-244.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:04:17] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #haiku[10:10:04] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85b3cf.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[10:10:53] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[10:11:21] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@2001:984:357c:1:f481:229a:5cb4:687d> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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premoboss <premoboss!~utente@net-2-39-53-56.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:06:57] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-084-057-156-024.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[16:29:38] *** eschatologist <eschatologist!~chanson@2601:646:8c00:6dca:83b4:fe68:d468:a6ce> has joined #haiku[16:34:03] <mmu_man> ok let's try to write a recipe for nodejs[16:45:07] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-esqtzwwldfrgkpzb> has joined #haiku[16:48:35] <miqlas> mmu_man: isn't v8 required for nodejs?[16:51:31] *** Barrett__ <Barrett__!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:04:36] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[17:05:12] <Vidrep> Good morning[17:06:42] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[17:08:51] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@2001:638:50a:232:a464:11e0:ed68:fa> has quit IRC (Quit: 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