November 10, 2016 
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November 10, 2016 [00:02:37] <jake__> Anyway, I have a board that boots everything <= hrev 47380, but nothing >= hrev47479[00:03:20] <jake__> Seems to be instruction oriented ... relative to i486 vs i586 compat[00:04:51] <jake__> Wonder what the history is there ...[00:09:38] <Anarchos> jake__ and you miss some specific revision ?[00:12:32] <tojoko> jake__, have u tried recently? since i had the same problem but now it works again.[00:14:23] <tojoko> with tha latest nightly.[00:17:53] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-vmiudizfmasgytpx> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:22:30] *** Anarchos <Anarchos!~K@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[00:24:21] *** zzzzz <zzzzz!~z5@user-188-33-54-171.play-internet.pl> has left #haiku[00:29:39] *** oco2 <oco2!~haiku@brs60-1-88-125-140-2.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[00:35:41] *** [r4] <[r4]!~r4]@staticline-31-183-98-219.toya.net.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 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autocommitter * hrev50679 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6d1b5ac38bac+%5E62eadc5e9b78[05:20:23] <HAIKU-irker082> 6d1b5ac38bac: Update usb.ids from www.linux-usb.org[05:48:17] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3122 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/3122[05:49:52] *** Skipp_OSX <Skipp_OSX!~jscipione@75-172-43-86.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[05:49:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[05:54:11] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-188-101-090-171.188.101.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[05:57:06] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-qurijxzrfglqssrw> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[05:58:51] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-188-101-090-171.188.101.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[06:01:39] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-utvmujszkrabtsrs> has joined 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"debug report" when there is an application crash?[09:06:25] *** [r4] <[r4]!~r4]@staticline-31-183-98-219.toya.net.pl> has joined #haiku[09:09:15] <FlyingJester> Depends what is in a debug report, I suppose.[09:09:24] <Vidrep> Maybe I can ask this in a forum post, so one of the devs can provide a concise answer that may be beyond the scope of an IRC chat.[09:09:40] <FlyingJester> And in the case of heap or stack corrumtion, a core dump will be more useful.[09:12:52] <Vidrep> I asked in the forum. I'll have a look tomorrow morning.[09:12:57] <Vidrep> Thanks[09:13:08] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@p001.gate.atson.jp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[09:13:10] <Vidrep> gn[09:13:15] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[09:21:11] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-jiwlidlhkilqpuix> has joined #haiku[09:24:11] <johnny_b> FlyingJester: hello, how is the SPARC port going? 8)[09:24:37] <FlyingJester> Still haven't started. I've been away from my Sun machines since I finished college, unfortunately.[09:25:33] <FlyingJester> I could work with Qemu, but from my experience there is no emulator that matches real Sun hardware in the slightest. It may be fine for developing programs, but not for an OS.[09:28:49] <geist> wait long enough and a modern machine will emulate a sparc faster than the original[09:29:46] <FlyingJester> Problem is the accuracy, though.[09:30:47] <FlyingJester> The fact that Solaris 10, OpenIndiana, and OpenSCXE do not boot on Qemu (and OpenBSD/SPARC64 has issues with it) makes me worry that I'd spend a lot of time making a port that only works on Qemu.[09:32:28] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db45b6f.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[09:32:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[09:36:41] *** tojoko <tojoko!~ATonyC@p5B151F62.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:36:57] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db45b6f.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[09:38:42] *** mikeh <mikeh!~mikeh@S010600259ce59399.vn.shawcable.net> has joined #haiku[09:38:43] *** mikeh__ <mikeh__!~mikeh@S010600259ce59399.vn.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:46:14] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[09:47:29] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-188-101-090-171.188.101.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[09:49:04] <arfonzo> ahoy, Haiku friends![09:49:24] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[09:49:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[09:49:26] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@55d450e4.access.ecotel.net> has joined #haiku[09:49:28] <arfonzo> ahh, sparc. I've got an old sparcstation 2 behind me, in my storage[09:49:52] <arfonzo> unfortunately the motherboard's dead, and weighs a ton, otherwise I'd happily ship it.[09:49:56] <geist> yeah i have a sparcstation lx i think still[09:49:59] <geist> i believe i kept it[09:50:11] <geist> i did a fairly major purge of old hardware before i moved[09:50:22] <arfonzo> good move to keep it, geist :)[09:50:54] <arfonzo> despite my wife's complaints, I felt bad to throw away such a nice thing. I am hoping to cross some local sparc fan, one day, so I can give it to someone who might put it to good use and repair it[09:51:21] <geist> i think i also kept the dual core sparcstation 20[09:51:31] <geist> but i dont like it run it. it's noisy and a huge power hug[09:51:33] <geist> hog even[09:51:44] <arfonzo> both comments are very true. :)[09:51:59] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-188-101-090-171.188.101.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[09:52:06] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@ipd50ab3d6.speed.planet.nl> has joined #haiku[09:52:18] <arfonzo> although the DL380 puts out a lot more noise, the sparcs are pretty impressive bearing in mind it's just one fan, heh[09:52:30] <geist> turns out ss20s, with supersparc IIs, were BiCMOS, which has the property of drawing constant power[09:52:50] <geist> so it pulls a hard constant 200W at the wall, completely independent of what you're doing with the cpu[09:53:04] <arfonzo> ah, old computers. :)[09:53:19] <arfonzo> it probably costs more than the DL380 to run, in terms of electricity[09:54:08] <geist> i think that particular one is a dual supersparc 80mhz + 192MB ram[09:54:15] <geist> so fairly beefy for even that generation[09:54:27] <geist> i think i cobbled it together from a bunch of sparcstations[09:54:29] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@ipd50ab3d6.speed.planet.nl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:54:58] <FlyingJester> My old Sun Fire 240s use way too much power for their own good.[09:54:58] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@ipd50ab3d6.speed.planet.nl> has joined #haiku[09:55:30] <FlyingJester> Although with dual 1200 MHz UltraSparc IIIs and 16 GB of RAM, they aren't in that much danger of full-speed emulation all that soon :)[09:56:24] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@150.237.94.36> has joined #haiku[10:24:55] *** Leer10[m] <Leer10[m]!leer10ma1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zenrwgyhrxlbtsbc> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[10:34:04] <jessicah> haha, dual 80MHz, wow, how computing power has grown[10:34:17] <jessicah> or maybe that's meant to be 800[10:34:21] <jessicah> still...[10:36:24] <johnny_b> nope,[10:36:37] <johnny_b> but it's 85MHz[10:37:43] <johnny_b> iirc[10:39:48] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@150.237.94.36> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:44:32] *** TMM <TMM!~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm> has joined #haiku[10:45:19] *** hako <hako!~hako@2a01:388:394:112::1:a> has joined #haiku[10:45:51] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[10:46:46] *** vdamewood <vdamewood!~vdamewood@unaffiliated/vdamewood> has joined #haiku[10:48:32] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-188-101-090-171.188.101.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[10:49:36] <geist> may be 85[10:52:10] <johnny_b> it was the SM81 MBus module and it required a special (last rev?) fw[10:52:58] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-188-101-090-171.188.101.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[10:53:33] <geist> yah[10:54:27] <geist> http://tkgeisel.com/pics/oldcomputers/sparcs.jpg old pic of the backs of htem[10:55:43] <jessicah> what's what?[10:55:47] <jessicah> and all those ports...[10:56:24] <jessicah> ethernet with a d-sub connector? crazy times[10:56:58] <jessicah> and old coax, haha, is that in the days with vampire taps? :p[11:06:59] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@150.237.94.36> has joined #haiku[11:15:36] <johnny_b> crazy times ... well, i'd say interesting[11:15:47] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:16:15] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[11:22:52] *** Leer10[m] <Leer10[m]!leer10ma1@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-lmlvgscjsddiqkdi> has joined #haiku[11:44:40] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@ipd50ab3d6.speed.planet.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Anyone else use haiku on a high resolution?[17:17:06] <humdinger> arfonzo![17:17:19] <arfonzo> ahoy sir :)[17:17:42] *** jaytersen <jaytersen!~jaytersen@2204ds4-oebr.0.fullrate.ninja> has joined #haiku[17:17:45] <humdinger> what's with your buildbot? on strike? :)[17:18:19] <arfonzo> ah, is he?[17:18:37] <Barrett> those are the moments where having a shell-based app_server would help[17:18:38] <humdinger> ...or there's nothing to build.[17:19:00] <arfonzo> humdinger, yes, there's nothing to build :)[17:19:28] <humdinger> ah, you build PulkoMandy's forked repo, right?[17:19:37] <arfonzo> I'm seeing a lot of scanlines type artefacts, on quite a high resolution atm, anyone experienced similar?[17:19:40] <arfonzo> yeah humdinger[17:19:54] <humdinger> then that's good actually. Complete: 541[17:20:07] <arfonzo> ah, yes, the score gets higher each buildrun[17:20:16] <humdinger> I only have HD(1080p)[17:21:43] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@150.237.94.36> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:23:08] <arfonzo> yeah, I was on 1080p until this afternoon[17:23:24] <arfonzo> it appears something with VESA and high resolutions isn't quite right with Haiku[17:23:56] <arfonzo> I'm very close to 4K atm: 3840x2055[17:25:26] <humdinger> that's a lot of pixels... :)[17:25:52] <arfonzo> it is somewhat ridiculous... and Haiku has no way to change DPI, does it?[17:25:59] <humdinger> you can play 100 old 320x200 games[17:26:20] <humdinger> nope. increasing font size is all you can ATM[17:26:31] <arfonzo> indeed, if my screen didn't keep filling up with scanlines! I was looking forward to having 3x3 9 RDPs open at 1024x768, heh[17:30:19] *** FireFly <FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly> has quit IRC (Quit: Goodbye)[17:30:21] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85bdf7.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:31:18] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, in regards to your comment here: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/12899#comment:6 This would also apply to Yab based apps.[17:32:09] <Vidrep> I know in the past bbjimmy and Lelldorin have had some disagreement about how to package their apps and link them against libYab[17:32:54] <Vidrep> bbjimmy, is the version of Yab in HaikuDepot the most current?[17:33:21] <bbjimmy> the one from the FatElk repo is.\[17:34:23] <bbjimmy> the one in haikuports still stope haiku from shutting down rather than quiting.[17:34:33] <bbjimmy> *stops[17:35:09] <Vidrep> So, it's still up to the devs or someone with commit privileges (in this case) to keep the most current version available[17:35:29] <bbjimmy> yup[17:38:42] <Vidrep> Is there a recipe in HaikuPorts for Yab? (I have it on another PC, so can't look first before asking)[17:40:31] <Vidrep> If so, then the automated package builder (when deployed) would always keep the most current version updated. Correct?[17:40:33] <bbjimmy> The latest recipe is in haikuports, it is just not built and uploaded.[17:40:49] <Vidrep> OK[17:40:52] <Barrett> Vidrep, how is working web+ with media_kit streaming?[17:40:58] *** FireFly <FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly> has joined #haiku[17:40:58] <Barrett> didn't have time to test it[17:41:36] <Vidrep> I haven't reied it yet :([17:41:40] <Vidrep> tried[17:42:38] <Vidrep> I was spending the past couple of days messing around with email, USB3 cards, and GPT partitions[17:42:38] * Barrett might look into finalizing relative seeking support[17:42:53] <Vidrep> I'll give it a try today[17:43:10] <Vidrep> Right now, Web+ is very crashy[17:43:26] <Barrett> as ever[17:43:46] <Vidrep> Playing a YouTube video is much less stable than before[17:44:43] <Vidrep> Barrett, are you saying that I can stream mp3 through Web+ the same as what we were doing with MP? Correct me if I'm mistaken.[17:44:54] <Barrett> in theory[17:45:02] <Barrett> dunno for the web+ part[17:45:27] <Vidrep> So, copy past a URL to a stream and it should work?[17:45:30] <Vidrep> paste[17:46:00] <Barrett> I can talk only for the media_kit itself[17:46:54] <Vidrep> OK, I just tried and it works![17:47:06] <Barrett> nice[17:47:54] <Vidrep> First click on link. It will download the URL to the stream. Copy/paste the URL in Web+ and voila![17:50:59] <Vidrep> Barrett, where to go from here? Do we remove the "Open network stream" feature from MP, or keep it?[17:51:45] <Vidrep> Now that I see it works, I'll try a variety of different stream types to see if any bugs rear their ugly heads[17:52:27] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d85ad59.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[17:52:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[17:54:32] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-188-101-090-171.188.101.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[17:56:38] *** TMM <TMM!~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[17:58:15] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@150.237.94.36> has joined #haiku[17:58:42] <Vidrep> Web+ crashes a lot with streams[17:58:55] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-188-101-090-171.188.101.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:59:36] <Vidrep> Switching stations is problematic due to the loading of the previous URL[18:01:01] *** ppisati_1 <ppisati_1!~ppisati@2-235-152-247.ip228.fastwebnet.it> has joined #haiku[18:03:23] *** ppisati 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IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:15:08] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~Dupa1Bard@apn-37-7-16-87.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #haiku[19:18:43] <miqlas__> Hi Guys[19:19:11] <miqlas__> I just bought a wifi audio stream thingie. have somebody experience with this things?[19:19:23] <Klima> bt ?[19:19:29] <miqlas__> Wifi[19:19:34] <miqlas__> This is it: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/muzocobblestone/muzo-cobblestone-hifi-audio-adapter-and-wifi-music[19:20:20] <Klima> omg :D sorry no :)[19:20:20] <miqlas__> AirPlay and MiniDLNA compatible, if i'm right. Works with apple products, not tested with other os yet.[19:20:39] <Klima> im only bt modules, and diy aplications[19:20:53] <Klima> is play good on scale 1/10 - 7[19:22:00] <miqlas__> this thing connects to my wifi router with wps.[19:22:20] <miqlas__> but this thing works as AP, so it is a wlan reapeater too.[19:22:30] <miqlas__> there is no word about it in the docs.[19:22:57] <miqlas__> BTW it have absolutely no password.[19:23:06] <miqlas__> i mean in default.[19:23:41] <miqlas__> So you just bring something new to home, connects it to your router, and exactly in the same minute you open up your network for everybody.[19:23:44] <miqlas__> NICE![19:23:57] <Klima> oh :)[19:24:28] <johnny_b> miqlas__: wi-fi: asking for trouble imo 8p[19:25:09] <miqlas__> it got an own web interface, but to get it you need to connect to this thing directly. so maybe there is a tons of open network because this thing[19:25:28] <miqlas__> Kickstarter .... what did i expected?[19:25:50] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[19:25:53] <miqlas__> guarantee: only if you buy it through amazon or at fry's.[19:26:20] <miqlas__> i have almost no idea, why i didn't bought 10 meters copper cable instead.[19:26:56] <johnny_b> because it's so oldschool and not hipster-style 8p[19:27:15] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e368c65.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[19:27:30] <miqlas__> That innovative bleeding edge technology have no latency, it got this warm sound, you can feel the deepness, and the vocals, it isn't just hifi, it is lossless! Hail to the copper cables.[19:27:36] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~Dupa1Bard@apn-37-7-16-87.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:28:07] <miqlas__> but ofc you cannot connect your smartassphone to the cable[19:28:30] <johnny_b> rly?[19:28:33] <johnny_b> m([19:28:34] *** TMM <TMM!~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm> has joined #haiku[19:28:34] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~Dupa1Bard@apn-37-7-16-87.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #haiku[19:29:34] <miqlas__> so i have a BT speaker set, but it is too far from my laptop so the connection not stable enough, so i bought a wlan adapter to my wireless speakers. Fck me, this is a wonderful life.[19:30:09] <miqlas__> johnny_b: my smartphone haven't got any ethernet port, sorry. No copper for my phone.[19:30:20] <johnny_b> ...[19:32:19] <miqlas__> ok, so how can i hack haiku to get dlna or upnp support? i've seen the minidlna and upnp libs in haikuporter...[19:32:22] *** DKnoto2 <DKnoto2!~Dupa1Bard@apn-37-7-16-87.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #haiku[19:32:23] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~Dupa1Bard@apn-37-7-16-87.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:33:32] <miqlas__> oh, there is mediatomb recipe too[19:36:21] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db45b6f.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[19:36:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[19:37:20] <miqlas__> "No version of mediatomb can be built" :([19:37:23] <miqlas__> FFFUUU[19:39:17] <Lelldorin1> humdinger?[19:39:19] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-jiwlidlhkilqpuix> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[19:39:26] <humdinger> hullo Lelldorin1[19:39:48] <Lelldorin1> humdinger: kannst in die pakete fr die userguids eine verknpfung vom app menu einfgen?[19:40:09] <Lelldorin1> humdinger: oder einen diesbezglichen eintrag in der installationsbeschreibung wo man es anschlieend findet[19:40:52] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db45b6f.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[19:40:56] <humdinger> Sollten die Teile nicht auf dem Desktop verknüpft sein? Und in den Web+ bookmarks?[19:42:41] <Lelldorin1> humdinger: keine ahnung ich hab es nur installiert und dachte mir grad, hey ich finde es weil ich haiku kenne aber eine neuling?[19:43:48] <Lelldorin1> humdinger: ich habe den link auf dem desktop nicht mehr[19:44:05] <humdinger> Im release hängt's aufm Desktop, nicht in den nightlies.[19:44:28] <humdinger> man könnte mal nachfragen, was die Leute von einer Ordern "Documentation" in der Deskbar halten.[19:44:31] <Lelldorin1> humdinger: aber eigentlich gehrt es doch in menu unter dokumentatinen[19:44:43] <Lelldorin1> genau[19:45:23] <humdinger> Ich frag mal.[19:45:28] <Lelldorin1> humdinger: haaa ist ja eine gute zusatzfunktion zu meinem menusorter[19:45:54] <humdinger> :)[19:51:03] <Skipp_macOS> no spreken dutch[19:51:11] <Lelldorin1> sorry Skipp_macOS[19:51:18] <Lelldorin1> my english is too bad[19:51:33] <humdinger> Skipp_macOS: but you do... kinda... :)[19:51:39] <miqlas__> Lelldorin1: here, snaps, it helps![19:51:55] <Skipp_macOS> that was the best I could do[19:51:57] <Lelldorin1> snaps?[19:52:13] <miqlas__> was sonst?[19:52:36] <Lelldorin1> meinst du schnaps?[19:52:37] <humdinger> Schnapps, miqlas__, Schnapps.[19:52:45] <miqlas__> nyeeee[19:52:47] <humdinger> double-PP I's say[19:52:59] <Lelldorin1> ahhh i understand... not for me i am not a drinker[19:53:13] <miqlas__> ich schreibe kein snapps,ich trinke![19:53:24] <Lelldorin1> Schnapps das war sein letzes wort, dann trugen ihn die Englein fort[19:54:21] <miqlas__> Lelldorin1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSIL-SU--Lw[19:56:17] <humdinger> groovy[19:56:46] <Lelldorin1> miqlas__: sorry youtube does not run in web+ on Hrev50443[19:58:40] <johnny_b> Lelldorin1: use ubertuber or youtube-dl[19:59:59] <Lelldorin1> johnny_b: i know ubertuber , very great work by humdinger but better way is to watch it using a browser like haiku older web+ versions[20:00:21] <humdinger> current hrevs play it nicely.[20:00:36] <humdinger> though at times a bit unstable.[20:03:50] <humdinger> signing off. good night everyone![20:04:16] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d86a2e6.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[20:07:35] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has joined #haiku[20:09:58] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e368c65.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[20:12:00] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[20:13:08] *** Deepanshu <Deepanshu!7373e132@gateway/web/freenode/ip.115.115.225.50> has joined #haiku[20:20:07] *** bitkid_ <bitkid_!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:21:28] *** tojoko <tojoko!~ATonyC@p5B15048C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[20:27:28] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has joined #haiku[20:28:02] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #haiku[20:28:58] *** Ingenu <Ingenu!~me@boi34-1-88-188-181-210.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[20:30:45] *** Deepanshu <Deepanshu!7373e132@gateway/web/freenode/ip.115.115.225.50> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:32:19] <miqlas__> btw who selling things with and only with this artefact in EU?! http://dvxjmen5kgvfb.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/MUZO-Cobblestone-Charger.jpg[20:32:37] <miqlas__> it made me automatically mad.[20:32:50] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@188.191.33.106> has joined #haiku[20:33:47] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@188.191.33.106> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:43:41] <miqlas__> Installing Haiku, level: hardcore : http://fi2.eu.apcdn.com/full/151775.jpg[20:43:59] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@55d450e4.access.ecotel.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:44:24] *** Ingenu <Ingenu!~me@boi34-1-88-188-181-210.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Ingenu)[20:47:40] <AlienSoldier> that does not scream comfort zone :)[20:59:42] *** mtY <mtY!~mty@177.4.189.130> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:01:22] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:01:56] *** Skipp_macOS <Skipp_macOS!~john@173-14-248-42-washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:03:31] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-084-057-156-024.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[22:06:32] *** miqlas_ <miqlas_!~miqlas@dslb-084-057-156-024.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[22:07:21] *** miqlas__ <miqlas__!~miqlas@dslb-084-057-156-024.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:08:46] *** miqlas__ <miqlas__!~miqlas@dslb-084-057-156-024.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[22:09:57] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-084-057-156-024.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[22:11:10] *** Nozy <Nozy!~The@243.113.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving http://bbsweb.mozysswamp.org)[22:11:22] *** miqlas-H <miqlas-H!~vision@dslb-084-057-156-024.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[22:11:49] *** miqlas_ <miqlas_!~miqlas@dslb-084-057-156-024.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[22:12:09] <miqlas-H> Now i'am really dissapointed about airplay. It works nicely with audio, but there is 2 sec lag, all the time, what really disturbing if you try to watch a video.[22:12:23] <miqlas-H> Now i switched back to bluetooth.[22:12:34] <miqlas-H> It works as it should.[22:13:19] <miqlas-H> and it also doesn't supported in haiku, so ...[22:14:45] <mmu_man> you can send a patch ;-)[22:15:01] <mmu_man> not sure how much more BT code you'd need to support this[22:15:11] <mmu_man> BT is an awful pile of protocols[22:18:19] *** King_Warg <King_Warg!326e74ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.110.116.173> has joined #haiku[22:20:56] <miqlas-H> jet better than airplay[22:21:02] <miqlas-H> *yet[22:23:54] *** DKnoto2 <DKnoto2!~Dupa1Bard@apn-37-7-16-87.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[22:25:04] <miqlas-H> It needs A2DP profile support[22:27:21] <miqlas-H> and of course it based on plentyy other profiles, so i think it needs a big bunch of code, i don't expect support from Haiku in the near future[22:28:18] *** [JJ]Albert <[JJ]Albert!~Albert@99-191-43-51.lightspeed.muncin.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[22:28:19] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto@apn-37-7-16-87.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #haiku[22:30:11] <PulkoMandy> could be a good GSoC project I guess[22:35:28] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-085-008-103-235.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[22:38:51] <miqlas-H> PulkoMandy: it would be then MSOC. Miqlas Summer of Code.[22:39:32] <King_Warg> yay photographic restoration 0.o`[22:39:55] <King_Warg> one of the most time consuming things ever[22:40:43] <King_Warg> except for writing an os ☻_☻[22:52:21] *** Klima <Klima!~Klima@static-78-8-176-191.ssp.dialog.net.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Quiit...)[23:02:28] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:02:48] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[23:03:11] <TMM> Is anyone working on porting the wireless drivers from a newer freebsd kernel at the moment?[23:08:57] *** miqlas-H <miqlas-H!~vision@dslb-084-057-156-024.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:10:21] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[23:10:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[23:15:17] <Vidrep> Hey[23:15:51] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:17:35] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!~vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:24:08] <mmu_man> TMM: Anarchos was looking into it but he doesn't have much driver experience[23:24:22] <mmu_man> he has one of those cards which require a newer driver[23:26:29] <TMM> yeah, me too :)[23:30:34] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~DKnoto@apn-37-7-16-87.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:38:01] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db45b6f.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[23:38:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[23:41:57] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@sp1-79-81-130.msb.spmode.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)[23:42:40] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db45b6f.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[23:44:52] <Vidrep> Barrett, are you still awake?[23:45:04] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!~vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[23:45:52] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:49:00] *** DKnoto <DKnoto!~Dupa1Bard@apn-37-7-16-87.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl> has joined #haiku[23:51:41] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)