November 7, 2016 
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November 7, 2016 [00:02:17] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)[00:11:23] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[00:18:06] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-188-118-131-057.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[00:18:16] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@pool-72-71-226-129.cncdnh.east.myfairpoint.net> has left #haiku[00:29:13] *** ThunderBlade <ThunderBlade!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-sorkjcpjalscyrxk> has joined #haiku[00:31:49] *** ThunderBlade <ThunderBlade!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-sorkjcpjalscyrxk> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:34:12] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[01:14:58] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[01:14:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[01:16:06] *** ThunderBlade <ThunderBlade!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-lasjaalokxqqttmn> has joined #haiku[01:21:37] *** hako_ <hako_!~hako@2a01:388:394:112::1:4> has joined #haiku[01:21:53] *** hako <hako!~hako@2a01:388:394:112::1:4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:24:37] *** Mict <Mict!~Mict@46-163-212-191.blcnet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:33:15] *** SMCollins <SMCollins!~vision@c-98-209-68-103.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[01:42:10] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #haiku[01:42:25] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:53:02] <HAIKU-irker082> haiku.master: jprostko * hrev50676 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=b83afe699e2c+%5E04d7efaf1e0e[01:53:03] <HAIKU-irker082> b83afe699e2c: Update Fossil to v1.36[01:58:33] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-195-72.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[02:00:19] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@c-98-209-68-103.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[02:00:32] *** HaikuUser is now known as smcollins456789[02:00:48] <smcollins456789> does ssh usually slow down networking ?[02:02:03] *** DCatt <DCatt!~vision@pool-71-113-9-65.rcmdva.east.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-090423]: i've been blurred!)[02:04:20] <jessicah> it shouldn't do[02:04:35] <smcollins456789> I wonder if I should reboot ?[02:04:52] <smcollins456789> I think PulkoMandy setup ssh to auto restart on reboot[02:05:21] <jessicah> how slow is slow?[02:05:37] <smcollins456789> like HUGE laggy, like dial up slow when I have 200mb connection[02:06:02] <smcollins456789> just this machine though[02:06:29] <jessicah> mm, I dunno; I've never had good success with haiku's transfer speed[02:06:43] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has joined #haiku[02:06:48] <smcollins456789> i get connection speed out of qbitorrent most days[02:07:28] <jessicah> maybe the problem is at the other end?[02:07:59] <smcollins456789> no, I tested my other pc, everything is fine there, normal speeds, just this install crawling[02:08:26] <jessicah> I don't know then[02:09:15] <smcollins456789> I'll let it run for a day see if it degrades further[02:10:43] *** smcollins456789 <smcollins456789!~vision@c-98-209-68-103.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[02:21:19] *** jessicah sets mode: -b FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly[02:21:30] <Vidrep> We need to add authentication methods to our email client[02:22:01] *** FireFly <FireFly!znc@freenode/staff/firefly> has joined #haiku[02:22:04] <FireFly> oh right[02:22:10] <FireFly> I was going to ask about that :P[02:22:15] <Vidrep> Sending mail with yahoo is impossible[02:22:27] <Vidrep> Receiving works OK[02:22:40] <jessicah> FireFly: you had endless reconnects due to excess flood errors[02:22:49] <FireFly> Right, I know, sorry[02:22:57] <FireFly> misconfigured bouncer[02:22:58] <jessicah> it's okay :)[02:36:55] <Vidrep> It looks like the Yahoo SMTP authentication issue has a ticket: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/11491[02:52:23] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x55b63f59.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[02:52:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[02:56:09] *** jstressman <jstressman!~justin@2601:407:c300:a5ef:9555:39d4:d8c5:41f2> has joined #haiku[02:57:16] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x55b63f59.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[04:01:31] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:df54:60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:12:41] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:19:10] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[04:29:26] *** ThunderBlade <ThunderBlade!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-lasjaalokxqqttmn> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[04:36:26] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:43:55] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[04:45:16] <jessicah> hey mattlacey (:[04:53:07] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x55b32882.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[04:53:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[04:57:44] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x55b32882.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[04:59:18] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...)[05:04:33] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[05:07:41] <IIsi50MHz> jess and I both had FireFly's connect-cident collapsed to just "FireFly nipped out" or the like.[05:08:01] <IIsi50MHz> Collapsed join/part/quits FTW.[05:09:08] * IIsi50MHz examines descriptions of the two BeShare versions in his known repos[05:09:27] <IIsi50MHz> 2.31-1 and 3.02-2.[05:09:39] <IIsi50MHz> I guess there's some reason for keeping the older one around?[05:11:46] <IIsi50MHz> Hmm, looks like the latter "supports" BeShare:Info attribute, but I wonder if that means it can edit the attribute without needing as separate editor?[05:15:21] <IIsi50MHz> Ah, the separate tool answers my question.[05:19:06] <bbjimmy> One could just use addattr, but BeShare_info works better[05:50:49] *** _Dario_ <_Dario_!~dario@186.22.121.15> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:05:14] *** ThunderBlade <ThunderBlade!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-oqjobtupgfvhyszc> has joined #haiku[06:16:18] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[06:24:11] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-195-72.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[06:57:58] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-195-72.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[06:59:32] *** ThunderBlade <ThunderBlade!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-oqjobtupgfvhyszc> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[07:09:50] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-084-057-152-165.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:17:36] <PulkoMandy> we need some graphical attribute editor someday[07:17:41] <PulkoMandy> integrated in Tracker would be nice[07:17:51] *** Feitan <Feitan!~vision@119.94.105.152> has joined #haiku[07:23:25] *** OmniMancer <OmniMancer!~Paul@101.100.137.239> has joined #haiku[07:23:55] <CandidC> Oh also, if anyone has problems with the native Haiku email client, you can always fall back on MailNews, it might look a bit dated and the SMTP interface is, well, painful, but it does work, and probably the best IMAP client on Haiku right now[07:26:30] <PulkoMandy> miqlas ported the Qt based Trojita, too[07:50:02] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host 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Good night[08:16:50] <humdinger> night Vidrep![08:17:15] <Vidrep> I'm tired of email :)[08:17:36] <humdinger> tweet instead :)[08:18:30] <Vidrep> There are a few tweaks we could make to the setup interface to make it easier to use. Especially for non technical people[08:19:21] <humdinger> right. even better would be to get the bugs fixed so it's working at all... :}[08:19:37] <Vidrep> Most of th email servers provide a simple 1, 2, 3 a,b,c set of steps to follow to get connected[08:20:01] <Vidrep> example: assigning ports[08:20:05] <jessicah> part of the problem, as I understand it, is that sending & receiving are two separate add-ons[08:20:16] <jessicah> so kind of have to repeat yourself[08:21:39] <Vidrep> How amny non techies would know that you can do this: pop.mail.yahoo.com:995[08:21:42] <Vidrep> many[08:22:21] <Vidrep> Some email clients have a cell where the [port can be entered. It makes it easy to understand[08:22:27] <jessicah> you shouldn't have to specify that; the SSL setup should do that automatically[08:22:42] <jessicah> but sure, I get your point[08:23:44] <jessicah> pretty much the reason webmail exploded[08:23:51] <jessicah> no technical configuration[08:24:00] <jessicah> well, that, and better browsers[08:25:17] <Vidrep> I'd rather we fixed our native client[08:25:35] <jessicah> me too[08:25:49] <jessicah> the IMAP code is a bit hairy :([08:26:01] <jessicah> I've tinkered with it a little, but it's definitely non-trivial[08:26:13] <Vidrep> Just like Web+. I'd rather see it progress rather than tell everybody to use a port[08:26:17] <jessicah> sometimes think should just wrap something like libcurl for the IMAP instead of rolling our own[08:27:25] <Vidrep> Our email client does work (somewhat).For starters we could make the setup more intuitive[08:27:34] <jessicah> having multiple workers sounds great in theory, but I think the complexity is getting in the way of making good progress with IMAP[08:27:58] <Vidrep> IMAP does crash a bit[08:28:19] <jessicah> yep, and it's not just one problem[08:28:29] <jessicah> part of it is multiple workers getting corrupted somehow[08:28:53] <jessicah> and another is IMAP state with the server can get confused, and then the IMAP server will just hang up, and then everything quits[08:29:00] <jessicah> this is one of the problems with gmail[08:29:49] <Vidrep> Also the flow of sent email. You would expect a email that fails to remain in the "out" box, then move to the "sent" box after a successful tramsmittal[08:30:23] <jessicah> it doesn't do that?[08:30:50] <Vidrep> Instead what we do is manually select out box, and that's where it stays regardless of a successful transmittal or not[08:31:22] <jessicah> that sounds a bit broken[08:32:09] <Vidrep> You manually select the destination of outgoing mail[08:33:17] <Vidrep> Anyway, there are a bunch of things which need to be looked at (like so many others)[08:33:33] <Vidrep> I know we have much higher priorities[08:34:04] *** stippi <stippi!~Thunderbi@x55b32882.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[08:34:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[08:34:21] <Vidrep> Just thought I'd bring it up since I was messing around with it most of the day[08:35:29] <Vidrep> Good night all![08:37:38] <Vidrep> humdinger, I couldn't get Yahoo mail to send, only receive[08:37:56] <Vidrep> There's a open ticket for that issue[08:38:29] <Vidrep> 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Would a 3TB HDD be a better choice considering the 2.2TB MBR limit?[17:02:23] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x55b32882.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:02:28] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-mfiwtoqcwlnyeqae> has joined #haiku[17:02:56] <Vidrep> I had bought a 2TB HDD, but after thinking about it a bit more, I'm considering exchanging for a 3TB HDD (only a few dollars more)[17:03:02] *** Tsesarevich <Tsesarevich!sid83162@fluxbuntu/founder/joejaxx> has joined #haiku[17:03:29] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@78-21-166-227.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[17:03:31] *** HaikuUser is now known as mtemmerm[17:04:30] *** bmp <bmp!sid22344@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cxhjempyomrtybzs> has joined #haiku[17:05:06] <mtemmerm> 'lo again - I'm having an issue with the install-wifi-firmwares.sh script, namely that it doesn't unpack the firmwares in the /boot/system/data/firmwares/iprowifi2200 folder[17:05:42] <mtemmerm> and I could unpack it but have no clue how to remount /boot as rw[17:05:47] <mtemmerm> any tips?[17:05:47] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@217-211-194-235-no113.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #haiku[17:06:04] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@217-211-194-235-no113.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:15:35] <humdinger> mtemmerm: from what I see, the install-wifi-firmwares.sh should create a HPKG and automatically install it.[17:15:56] <humdinger> maybe edit the script's MakeHPKG() to not remove the hpkg[17:16:10] <humdinger> then at least you see if it's created at all.[17:42:44] *** vdamewood <vdamewood!~vdamewood@unaffiliated/vdamewood> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:43:16] <Vidrep> Hi humdinger[17:43:37] <Vidrep> I promise not to ask anything about email :D[17:43:51] <humdinger> hey Vidrep![17:44:03] <humdinger> probably not much I could answer anyway...[17:44:57] <Vidrep> Is there any other area of Haiku I could look at, in a useful way?[17:46:34] <humdinger> hmmm.. tough question.[17:46:46] <humdinger> you already looked into the dirtiest corners:[17:46:49] <humdinger> email and printing...[17:47:20] <Vidrep> Today I was going to play with Haiku's GUID partitioning on a 3TB HDD to see if anything nasty happens[17:47:47] <Vidrep> Email and printing both work, but not in a very elegant way[17:48:35] <humdinger> did anything nasty raise its head?[17:50:04] <Vidrep> I know i always lament my complete lack of coding skills. If I had any, I'd be digging into the issues i see[17:50:51] <Vidrep> Unfortunately I have to unload the real work on overburdened guys like Adrien[17:52:23] *** postmen <postmen!~tonyc@p5B15021F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[17:53:57] <Vidrep> humdinger, nothing nasty yet. i haven't even started...[17:54:29] *** IIsi50MHz <IIsi50MHz!sid19824@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-douxeeheujybfuwd> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:55:58] *** IIsi50MHz <IIsi50MHz!sid19824@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ixedeycxmnuauisq> has joined #haiku[17:59:21] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: GeneralDuke)[18:12:04] <Vidrep> Just had two consecutive crashes of Webpositive. Both debug reports attached to ticket https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/13050[18:13:26] <Vidrep> bbl[18:13:41] <humdinger> In general though, the new webkit is markedly more stable than before.[18:14:22] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #haiku[18:29:37] *** Klima <Klima!~Klima@static-78-8-176-191.ssp.dialog.net.pl> has joined #haiku[18:32:57] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-mfiwtoqcwlnyeqae> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[18:36:14] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-nnkxcbsknkjujlei> has joined #haiku[18:37:02] *** mtemmerm <mtemmerm!~vision@78-21-166-227.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[18:37:59] <SMCollins> humdinger: it crashes constantly on me, facebook, video content, youtube, they all cause webpositive to lock up crash and die[18:56:07] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-188-106-144-019.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:58:44] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x55b32882.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[18:58:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[18:58:47] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[19:01:19] <humdinger> haven't done much video sites and ofc no facebook.[19:01:24] <humdinger> but all else is better now. :)[19:03:00] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x55b32882.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[19:09:57] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@55d40e68.access.ecotel.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:17:12] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has joined #haiku[19:27:48] <HAIKU-irker082> haiku.master: humdinger * hrev50677 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=9874150a90d3+%5Eb83afe699e2c[19:27:49] <HAIKU-irker082> 9874150a90d3: Improved MIDI section of Media preferences[19:27:59] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-pnarjpafeudycken> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[19:35:44] *** Anarchos <Anarchos!~K@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[19:44:22] <Anarchos> hi folks ! Long time no see here :)[19:44:41] <humdinger> hey Anarchos![19:44:51] <Anarchos> humdinger hi[19:47:06] * Anarchos must reboot....[19:47:24] *** Anarchos <Anarchos!~K@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[19:49:59] <humdinger> Q: in a catkeys file, is the order of strings relevant?[19:52:19] *** Anarchos <Anarchos!~K@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[19:53:56] <Anarchos> humdinger i am back with the most recent nightly :)[19:54:23] <humdinger> good for you. too early for my media prefs changes though. :)[19:55:21] <humdinger> I still think "cool" if I see stuff appear and disappear in a list when moving files around. :)[19:55:27] * humdinger loved node monitoring[19:55:32] <humdinger> *loves even[19:57:27] <SMCollins> Vidrep: maybe see if you can get the printing support for QT working ? or port caligra ?[19:58:26] <SMCollins> also BePDF has issue with printing unless you set the pages to print[19:58:28] <Anarchos> humdinger files disappearing ? What frightening to me :/[19:58:54] * Anarchos wonders if his texlive port is still used[19:58:57] <humdinger> Anarchos: only in a list of files in node-monitored locations. :)[20:03:00] <PulkoMandy> humdinger: the order of strings in catkeys does not matter, they are reordered when converting to the binary format[20:04:12] <humdinger> OK, good. otherwise updating the different languages would be even more trouble.[20:04:49] <humdinger> Would be cool if the old en.catkeys would be "diffed" and the new/changes strings put to the top :)[20:05:54] <humdinger> hmm... a nice feature for the Catkeyseditor.[20:08:17] <PulkoMandy> yes that's up to the editor[20:08:26] <PulkoMandy> as far as haiku's tool are concerned, the order doesn't matter[20:08:52] <PulkoMandy> also, let's see how Web+ handles the GCI website this year…[20:10:06] <humdinger> Google will have hidden some surprises for us again...[20:10:58] <humdinger> PulkoMandy: BTW, the userguide tool site also has issues with Web+. Doesn't render in pop-up windows when editing a block of text.[20:12:21] <humdinger> I may file a ticket tomorrow... got to go now.[20:12:25] <humdinger> cu tomorrow.[20:12:55] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x4d04d093.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[20:15:03] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.125.61> has joined #haiku[20:19:59] *** Ingenu <Ingenu!~me@boi34-1-88-188-181-210.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[20:22:19] <SMCollins> PulkoMandy: did builds suceed ?[20:36:32] <mmu_man> https://codein.withgoogle.com/organizations/ \o/[20:39:14] <PulkoMandy> mh, we need to improve our organization description there[20:39:43] <PulkoMandy> SMCollins: not much, seems all builders more or less crashed[20:39:56] <PulkoMandy> I'll set scott's one up and then spin a buildrun again[20:49:01] *** Colin_ <Colin_!6bd6184f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.214.24.79> has joined #haiku[20:49:31] *** Colin_ <Colin_!6bd6184f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.214.24.79> has left #haiku[20:53:03] * Anarchos is trying to build minoca-os from within haiku...[20:54:33] *** HaikuUser <HaikuUser!~vision@78-21-166-227.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[20:54:42] *** HaikuUser is now known as mtemmerm[20:57:52] <mtemmerm> 'lo again - I managed to install wifi_firmwares, I have a PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] adapter, but when I reboot Haiku hangs before reaching the desktop. If I reboot into safe mode and remove wifi_firmwares I can boot normally again, no wifi. Any ideas?[21:06:01] <PulkoMandy> well that would mean the driver doesn't play well with your hardware[21:07:20] *** Ingenu <Ingenu!~me@boi34-1-88-188-181-210.fbx.proxad.net> has left #haiku[21:14:43] *** mtemmerm <mtemmerm!~vision@78-21-166-227.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[21:17:57] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:25:00] *** johndrinkwater <johndrinkwater!~beta@steamdb/johndrinkwater.name> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:25:13] *** johndrinkwater <johndrinkwater!~beta@steamdb/johndrinkwater.name> has joined #haiku[21:30:25] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@AToulon-256-1-160-222.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #haiku[21:30:27] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@AToulon-256-1-160-222.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:30:27] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[22:09:50] <Vidrep> Hi[22:11:37] <Vidrep> SMCollins, I'm not a developer, so any printing support for QT will have to come from someone else.[22:14:34] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, Web+ was behaving well for me yesterday, but today there were several crashes[22:14:38] <Anarchos> First time i have to add "-I." to gcc ![22:18:11] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-188-106-144-019.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[22:21:26] <postmen> hi miqlas - so late still online?[22:22:50] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-188-106-144-019.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:23:29] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-188-106-144-019.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[22:30:51] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte)[22:37:01] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[22:37:37] *** oco2 <oco2!~haiku@brs60-1-88-125-140-2.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[22:39:45] <AlienSoldier> Vidrep, i also see lot of crash now. What is the best way to submit report when we don't really have an idea of what is going on. Is there a ticket already made for suddent misc web+ crash?[22:46:27] *** Klima <Klima!~Klima@static-78-8-176-191.ssp.dialog.net.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Quiit...)[22:47:11] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-60-243-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:48:53] *** Vidrep_ <Vidrep_!18f42005@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.244.32.5> has joined #haiku[22:49:56] <Vidrep_> AlienSoldier, I have a ticket for misc Web+ crashes #13053[22:53:13] <Vidrep_> I haven't determined a pattern. They seem random.[22:54:33] *** Vidrep_ <Vidrep_!18f42005@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.244.32.5> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[22:56:52] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-092-252-016-163.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[22:59:03] *** miqlas <miqlas!~miqlas@dslb-188-106-144-019.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:00:20] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x55b32882.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[23:00:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[23:05:10] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x55b32882.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:13:19] *** Anarchos <Anarchos!~K@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[23:15:47] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte)[23:16:30] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:16:58] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:24:43] *** regreg <regreg!regreg@85.121.54.224> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:50:18] <Vidrep> AlienSoldier,sorry that ticket number should be #13050[23:52:07] <AlienSoldier> Vidrep thanx, i will check that[23:54:51] <Vidrep> https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/13050[23:57:32] <AlienSoldier> Vidrep i have very little insight in those debug info but it look similar to my crashes. A good thing as it does not seem all over the place. look like at least two, 3 at most crash location.[23:58:36] <AlienSoldier> my intution about those look to be semaphore/lock related as it look realy random[23:59:05] <AlienSoldier> i would expect a buffer overflow to me more stable in time in term of crash occurence