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[00:16:26] <miqlas-H> johnny_b: i just made a "nobody" group here. Should i add you?
[00:17:06] <johnny_b> 8DDD
[00:17:14] <johnny_b> definitely
[00:19:51] <miqlas-H> adduser -g nobody johnny_b
[00:58:22] <HAIKU-irker082> haiku.master: mmu_man * hrev50668 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=8a6724a0ee38+%5Ebdac77bf2ebb
[00:58:23] <HAIKU-irker082> 8a6724a0ee38: makefile-engine: use grep -a for RDEF parsing
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[01:27:13] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3047 of haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/3047
[01:34:49] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2968 of haiku-repository-x86_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_hybrid/builds/2968
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[01:49:27] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2911 of haiku-repository-x86_64 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_64/builds/2911
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[02:55:12] <miqlas-H> WHAT??? http://chunk.io/f/9f4c2d172b934bc7ab41cc345329c0d2
[02:56:06] <mmu_man> what what?
[02:56:10] <mmu_man> A/UX or the error ?
[02:56:57] <miqlas-H> the error is strange, but i'm not alone with this problem :(
[02:57:01] <miqlas-H> or :)
[02:57:45] <miqlas-H> how doing, mmu?
[02:58:06] <mmu_man> https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/5558-aux-hangs-after-upgrade-to-31/
[02:58:10] <mmu_man> tired
[02:58:18] <mmu_man> got sick for 2 weeks :-(
[02:59:08] <mmu_man> http://n-1.nl/apple_aux/aux-faq/part3/
[02:59:14] <miqlas-H> it is 3.0.1
[02:59:34] <mmu_man> ahh i is for inode
[02:59:38] <mmu_man> it's an fs error
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[03:00:06] <mmu_man> A.19)
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[03:00:49] <miqlas-H> i boot froma cd image.
[03:01:03] <miqlas-H> but i don't care, i just wanted to thst this emulator.
[03:01:26] <miqlas-H> i got basilisk 2 compiled with gcc2, but not tested yet.
[03:01:37] <miqlas-H> it cannot run a/ux
[03:02:35] <CandidC> mmu_man: Wow, it's good to see A/UX still doing the rounds
[03:02:38] <mmu_man> no IIRC it doesn't emulate the mmu
[03:02:46] <CandidC> There's a MOSAIC fork for it iirc
[03:03:14] <mmu_man> that's the kind of stuff that'd be nice to have apple publish sources for
[03:03:49] <miqlas-H> mmu, then you are safe for now.
[03:03:50] <CandidC> miqlas-H: There is an emulator that can emulate A/UX but it's incomplete and the dev has seemingly stopped development
[03:04:08] <CandidC> https://github.com/pruten/shoebill
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[03:04:21] <mmu_man> https://twitter.com/mmu_man/status/790178605997457408
[03:04:25] <mmu_man> found a NeXT emu the other day
[03:04:28] <miqlas-H> CandidC: what d you think, what have i used for that screenshot ? :)
[03:04:32] <mmu_man> doesn't compile on Haiku yet
[03:04:56] <mmu_man> miqlas-H: QEMU just got a load of m68k patches btw
[03:05:04] <mmu_man> might someday become useful
[03:07:40] <CandidC> mmu_man: I don't think it would be ported
[03:08:52] <mmu_man> what ?
[03:09:06] <mmu_man> 03:04 < miqlas-H> CandidC: what d you think, what have i used for that screenshot ? :)
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[03:19:46] <miqlas> oh, is there microsoft word for aux? http://www.aux-penelope.com/images/aux-3.0-update.png
[03:21:30] <mmu_man> for MacOS
[03:21:37] <mmu_man> but A/UX could run MacOS apps IIRC
[03:22:04] <mmu_man> not sure which version
[03:27:08] <miqlas> ok, i go to sleep.
[03:27:11] <miqlas> good night guys!
[03:29:36] <mmu_man> I should sleep as well
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[04:05:28] <IIsi50MHz> fork of Basilisk II https://sourceforge.net/projects/cockatrice/
[04:08:15] <IIsi50MHz> On github and the parent blog, it seems to be last updated 2014,
[04:08:35] <IIsi50MHz> but on SF it's this year.
[04:28:16] <mmu_man> yeah
[04:28:23] <mmu_man> it's a shame, all these forks
[04:28:30] <mmu_man> Previous is a fork of Hatari...
[04:28:31] <IIsi50MHz> Need more spoons.
[04:28:42] <mmu_man> one fork to bind them all :)
[04:29:01] * IIsi50MHz imagines forking "Hatari" to form the project "Previous" (^:
[04:30:43] <IIsi50MHz> On my list of things to do when completely my degree in computer engineering:
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[04:31:38] <IIsi50MHz> Code for Haiku[ OS], "fix" Mini vMac to be userfriendly and reconfigurable without recompiling, ...
[04:31:40] * IIsi50MHz dreams
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[04:32:18] <IIsi50MHz> I wasted to much time at a real-estate company after getting my associate degree in computer science.
[04:32:29] <IIsi50MHz> Now I can't code without lots of references.
[04:32:38] <IIsi50MHz> And LOTS of recompiles.
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[04:33:41] <IIsi50MHz> Salut, stargater, _Dario, miqlas
[04:34:06] <IIsi50MHz> Just finished reading four days of backlogged #haiku.
[04:34:48] <IIsi50MHz> Actually, there were more days but...no point delaying maths homework /that/ long.
[04:35:16] * IIsi50MHz monopolises the silence
[04:36:44] <mmu_man> ...
[04:37:17] <mmu_man> ok I've start a build of qt 5.6, will see tomorrow how it went
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[04:41:26] <_Dario> hello IIsi50MHz
[04:42:11] <mmu_man> zz
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[07:34:21] <HAIKU-irker082> haiku.master: nielx * hrev50669 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d1212a874e5b+%5E8a6724a0ee38
[07:34:22] <HAIKU-irker082> d1212a874e5b: Update translations from Pootle
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[09:37:35] <PulkoMandy> https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/pulkomandy/2016-11-05_haiku_monthly_activity_report_october_2016
[09:37:47] <PulkoMandy> on to write the BeGeistert report now…
[09:39:40] <humdinger> Great! Thanks!
[09:39:47] <humdinger> promoted to front page.
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[10:31:52] <PulkoMandy> BeGeistert 030 report: https://www.haiku-os.org/node/11134
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[11:27:33] <PulkoMandy> did someone contact http://xbar.org/ for sources of BShisen? Would be a nice addition to our game library I think
[11:27:45] <PulkoMandy> (also there is a color picker with sources, anyone wants to make a recipe?
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[11:33:26] <bladerun> hi
[11:34:12] <bladerun> haiku could not detect the insert of a usb key...???
[11:36:13] <bladerun> i read somewhere that only with disabled ACPI usb keys will work on my laptop... why?
[11:39:20] <PulkoMandy> hi, please extract the syslog (/var/log/syslog), output of listdev and listusb (with the key plugged), and create a ticket with the information at dev.haiku-os.org
[11:42:20] <bladerun> hi pulkomandy. how are you? well, the problem is if I disable acpi I have no sound and battery monitoring but have usb, if I enable acpi then I have sound and battery monitoring and no usb. strange isn't it?
[11:42:54] <PulkoMandy> yes. please open a bug report (syslogs and listdev/lisusb in both cases, acpi enabled and disabled)
[11:43:06] <PulkoMandy> then we can look more closely at what's happening
[11:43:15] <bladerun> I'm copy some items from usb to desktop and it will take ages preparing to copy items... why it doesn't start copying items immediatly?
[11:45:29] <PulkoMandy> probably there is some broken driver misbehaving with your hardware
[11:45:36] <PulkoMandy> making USB very slow for some reason
[11:48:47] <bladerun> pulkomandy it is copying, it was a directory with lots of files and big one:)
[11:49:21] <bladerun> pulkomandy thanks for the reply, I will post when I had some time in bug tracker.
[11:50:58] <PulkoMandy> thanks
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[12:07:30] <jessicah> I play BShisen all the time in Haiku (:
[12:07:57] <jessicah> it's already packaged somewhere
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[12:15:35] <PulkoMandy> yes but there are no sources and changing tilesets doesn't seem to work
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[12:41:26] <PulkoMandy> (and the default one is a bit… cheesy?)
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[13:02:21] <HAIKU-irker082> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev50670 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f4db7fdc6846+%5Ed1212a874e5b
[13:02:22] <HAIKU-irker082> a9af524dbb47: BPrintJob test: build fix. But the app crashes.
[13:02:23] <HAIKU-irker082> f4db7fdc6846: BUrl: allow URLs without protocol or authority again.
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[14:05:06] <zeenine> Hello
[14:05:53] <zeenine> I cannot pull sources from git://git.haiku-os.org/haiku
[14:06:20] <zeenine> I get "fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer"
[14:16:13] <johnny_b> hi
[14:16:55] <johnny_b> zeenine: https://github.com/haiku/haiku
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[14:21:51] <zeenine> it used to work... I'll try.
[14:23:31] <zeenine> It's ok now. Thank you!
[14:23:42] <johnny_b> yw
[14:28:05] <zeenine> basically, I've changed only protocol. Something must have changed since mid-october...
[14:28:25] <johnny_b> i dunno
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[14:55:11] <Vidrep> Good morning
[14:57:29] <PulkoMandy> hi
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[15:06:11] <Vidrep> As usual, a great write up for October, and the BeGeistert report
[15:06:49] <Vidrep> I even got my 15 minutes of fame :)
[15:07:23] <Vidrep> pkgman updat->reboot
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[16:00:23] <DCatt> Hello to all in Haiku Nation!
[16:01:24] <hackkitten> :)
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[16:25:43] <King_Warg> ☺_☺
[16:34:00] <Vidrep> humdinger, the emails still are not auto-filling correctly
[16:35:59] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, do you need volunteers to test hard drives larger than 2TB?
[16:36:41] <PulkoMandy> myself, not specifically, I don't plan to use one :)
[16:36:56] <PulkoMandy> if you are interested in getting it running in Haiku, please test it and see what happens
[16:37:38] <Vidrep> I see some on sale for <$100
[16:38:34] <Vidrep> I can use it later in my Windows HTPC for storing movies, music, etc
[16:39:09] <PulkoMandy> I'm thinking of buying a new ssd to test fstrim on it
[16:39:31] <PulkoMandy> but then I have no real use for it, except installing it in an old laptop I don't really need anymore
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[16:42:12] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, is it possible to have a quick look at why our email do not auto-fill from the .rdef files?
[16:42:45] <Vidrep> humdinger updated one for me the other day, but it still does not work
[16:43:01] <Vidrep> It "might" be a quick fix
[16:43:27] <Vidrep> Sorry to pile on more work for you
[16:44:29] <PulkoMandy> I would just switch it to using Mozilla's online provider database instead
[16:44:38] <PulkoMandy> but that needs someone to write the code
[16:46:10] <Vidrep> Maybe post Beta1 for that. However, in the meantime we are still using .rdef for each provider
[16:46:29] <Vidrep> Also, regarding problem websites for Web+. Is there a specific ticket for those, or create a new ticket for each one?
[16:47:03] <PulkoMandy> try to group them by common problems if possible
[16:47:03] <PulkoMandy> crashes / missing text / freezes
[16:47:07] <PulkoMandy> and missing cookies
[16:47:23] <Vidrep> Will do
[16:49:42] <Vidrep> I was having some issues yesterday on the Kijiji website. Searching often brought up blank pages, but would work after a refresh. http://www.kijiji.ca/h-calgary/1700199
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[16:50:45] <Vidrep> Thanks Adrien. I'll leave you to your work...:)
[16:51:58] <PulkoMandy> yes, please try to group websites with similar problems, it can make it easier to discover the common pattern
[16:52:18] <PulkoMandy> I saw blank pages occasionally as well, seems pretty common so maybe the next thing to fix
[16:54:18] <Vidrep> The tricky part of creating tickets is not duplicating what has already been reported before.
[16:56:01] <PulkoMandy> we can always close as duplicates in that case, no problem
[16:56:27] <Vidrep> When you think you have some of our printing issues fixed and ready for testing, let me know. OK?
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[16:59:31] <PulkoMandy> well, I hope Jua will dig into that eventually :>
[16:59:38] <PulkoMandy> but yes, maybe I'll have to do it myself
[17:00:03] <PulkoMandy> it could also fix some problems in WebKit too, some of the issues are around the same parts (storing data in BPicture)
[17:00:08] <PulkoMandy> and also the remote app_server
[17:00:30] <Vidrep> You need some help from the other devs. Even a hour or two a week would help.
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[17:02:37] <Vidrep> At the rate we're going we might have to rename Haiku to "AOS". Take a wild guess what the "A" stands for? :D
[17:02:37] <PulkoMandy> well, everyone contributes with its availability and motivation
[17:03:17] <PulkoMandy> well, do you know my contribution in terms of lines of code is still very low?
[17:03:41] <PulkoMandy> http://pulkomandy.tk/stats/authors.html
[17:04:05] <Vidrep> I know Axel is #1 in that department
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[17:04:43] <Vidrep> It goes beyond lines of code. Your efforts are much appreciated.
[17:06:17] <Vidrep> Axel has been working on Haiku, and BeOS befiore that since forever. No surprise he's first on the list.
[17:06:37] <Vidrep> Have a good day!
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[17:37:35] <humdinger> Does anyone know how I can jam one particular app in the Haiku trunk with debugging symbols?
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[17:44:54] <Vidrep> Hi humdinger
[17:45:05] <humdinger> hey!
[17:45:12] <humdinger> still no luch with the email stuff?
[17:45:20] <Vidrep> No luck
[17:45:36] <Vidrep> Any chance you can have a look today?
[17:46:24] <humdinger> First thing I can do is update to see for myself...
[17:46:43] <Vidrep> I'll be out for a while looking for a hard drive
[17:47:26] <Vidrep> So, I won't be bugging you every 5 minutes LOL
[17:47:30] <humdinger> take your time.
[17:47:32] <humdinger> :)
[17:48:13] <Vidrep> OK, see what you can do. Same with the Shaw provider listing
[17:48:39] <Vidrep> Don't forget the jam file! Ha!
[17:48:44] <humdinger> :P
[17:48:51] <Vidrep> Thanks in advance
[17:49:09] <humdinger> ok. rebooting...
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[18:10:47] <humdinger> Vidrep: the ProviderInfo is stored in ~/config/settings/Mail/ProviderInfo.
[18:11:27] <humdinger> I assume that the new ProviderInfos will only be put there from a clean install of a nightly onto a blank partition(?)
[18:12:15] <humdinger> Which isn't that cool, because you cannot update it easily then...
[18:12:22] <humdinger> Same as the Web+ bookmarks
[18:16:33] <Vidrep> OK, I'll do a fresh install as soon as I get back home
[18:16:52] <humdinger> that's my hypothesis. I may be wrong...
[18:17:17] <Vidrep> Thanks again for looking into it. Let's make everything work as well as we can for the Beta
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[18:17:52] * humdinger nods
[18:19:15] <Vidrep> Before i leave the house: http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/
[18:20:02] <Vidrep> I wouldn't mind trying out the pre release they made available
[18:20:32] <Vidrep> Should we wait for a full point release?
[18:21:18] <humdinger> for inclusion in Haiku definitely. But people could have a look at a recipe now, and just update that later.
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[18:25:28] <humdinger> answer to my previous question: putting e.g. "SetConfigVar DEBUG : HAIKU_TOP src preferences media : 1 : global ;" into the UserBuildConfig should do it.
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[21:24:59] <HAIKU-irker082> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev50671 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=156b6cd596cb+%5Ef4db7fdc6846
[21:25:00] <HAIKU-irker082> 156b6cd596cb: BMediaFile: fix destruction order.
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[21:36:18] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, just a quick question. I'm going to build a Haiku anyboot image from source, since the nightly DL page isn't caught up yet
[21:36:57] <Vidrep> Running jam -q haiku-anyboot-image is only going to give me a bare bones image, right?
[21:37:53] <Vidrep> If so, how to create a anyboot image comparable with what is normally available on the nightly DL page?
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[21:43:20] <PulkoMandy> you need to use one of the user build profiles
[21:43:40] <PulkoMandy> I think "jam -q @nightly-anyboot" will do it
[21:43:56] <PulkoMandy> but I'm not sure because I use my own custom build settings with a different set of packages
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[21:47:15] <Vidrep> Thanks
[21:47:56] <Vidrep> I picked up a Seagate 2TB SATA drive today. Will test with Haiku tomorrow
[21:49:54] <miqlas> PulkoMandy: https://vimeo.com/81795730
[21:52:20] <miqlas> it isn't your standard paint, btw
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[22:09:31] <Vidrep> I'm having issues cloning Haiku
[22:09:37] <Vidrep> Cloning into 'haiku'...
[22:09:38] <Vidrep> fatal: read error: Socket is not connected
[22:09:58] <Vidrep> Any ideas?
[22:11:37] <Vidrep> I'll try again after a reboot
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