November 2, 2016 
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November 2, 2016 [00:14:05] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[00:14:37] <Vidrep> Is anybody else having problems playing YouTube videos with Web+?[00:14:58] <Vidrep> hrev50649 x86_gcc2[00:15:24] <oco2> DHowett : 14955 (i am on the fast ring) but any version since this summer should be ok : version with case sensitive support on Windows partitions from the Linux subsystem[00:15:49] <oco2> most problems where related to ":" in some files[00:22:05] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-47-53-132-231.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[00:27:08] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Disappears in a puff of smoke)[00:38:03] <DHowett> right, 14393 shipped with case sensitive support for DrvFs.. awesome![00:38:45] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-vcgkuqtnsgipwuhj> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:39:26] <Vidrep> Can anybody else verify if there are problems playing YouTube on Web+?[00:39:52] <Vidrep> The adverts will play, but not the main video[00:40:03] <DHowett> i'm pretty surprised, though, that it builds properly from drvfs, oco2[00:40:25] <DHowett> were there any other big missing features you ran into? i can try to elevate to the appropriate people if so[00:42:38] <oco2> DHowett : it would be better is there is proper attribute support (https://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/266908-command-prompt-console-bash-on-ubuntu-on-windo/suggestions/15217680-bash-on-ubuntu-on-windows-must-support-extended-at)[00:42:49] <DHowett> i'd love to see xattrs mapped to NTFS ADS[00:43:58] <mmu_man> I'd bet they'll use yet another mangling scheme[00:44:24] <oco2> DHowett : but there is already a generic implementation in the build system : just don't use the attr* option like on linux[00:45:01] <DHowett> how'd you work around the lack of ':' in filenames?[00:46:52] <oco2> quick and dirty patch for now : a change in escape_attr_name and deescape_attr_name to replace ":" with "_c"[00:48:24] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!vision@192.95.230.226> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[00:48:29] <oco2> and dupplication of AddFileDataResource to use 3 parameters instead of ressourceId for makebootable. I then combine them to reconstitute the id for xres[00:50:08] <mmu_man> I just commented on that :p[00:52:44] <oco2> the resourceId was RAWT:666:BootCode and was used to generate a file[00:53:00] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:df54:60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:04:37] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #haiku[01:04:47] *** bitkid_ <bitkid_!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[01:06:10] *** N3Squick <N3Squick!~N3S@dslb-188-110-254-193.188.110.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC ()[01:07:32] <jessicah> you got it working?[01:07:38] <jessicah> did you have to patch jam like I did?[01:07:44] <jessicah> I never had success with it[01:08:51] <jessicah> I patched jam to use mkdir -p, as it didn't seem to think a directory already existed[01:08:56] <jessicah> but I wasn't able to trace it[01:09:07] <jessicah> and couldn't reproduce with a small test case :([01:10:47] <oco2> jessicah : no jam patching[01:11:09] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!vision@192.95.230.226> has joined #haiku[01:11:14] <oco2> jessicah : mostly only fixes on ':' in filename[01:11:25] <jessicah> oco2: hmm, strange[01:12:58] <oco2> i have jessicah : with which version of WIndows ?[01:13:21] <jessicah> I can't remember the last build I tested it with[01:13:29] <oco2> i am with build 14955[01:13:30] <jessicah> I'm on 14931 atm[01:14:08] <oco2> case sensitivity is required (available since this summer)[01:14:49] <mmu_man> actually, : is also the alternate file stream separator[01:14:59] <oco2> i will share the current quick and dirty patch[01:15:13] <mmu_man> although I'm not sure which NTFS feature they use, either alt stream of real xattrs (NTFS supports both)[01:15:43] <oco2> yes NTFS support attributes but not yet WSL[01:16:33] <DHowett> huh, i wasn't aware ntfaea and ntfsads were different things[01:16:34] <DHowett> neat[01:17:12] <DHowett> ntfs ea*[01:17:15] <oco2> we have to workaround using the generic layer already avaliable in the build system (Adrien explain this to me at BeGeistert) It is the default under Linux if you don't specify anything related to attributes in the configure command[01:17:29] <mmu_man> cf. http://dcevents.dublincore.org/IntConf/dc-2011/paper/view/53[01:17:56] <mmu_man> yeah, we use regular files as backing store by default[01:18:08] <oco2> mmu_man : you can vote and comment for that : https://wpdev.uservoice.com/forums/266908-command-prompt-console-bash-on-ubuntu-on-windo/suggestions/15217680-bash-on-ubuntu-on-windows-must-support-extended-at ;-)[01:18:22] <mmu_man> I did :)[01:18:24] <DHowett> mmu_man: i recognize that guy's name ;)[01:18:48] <mmu_man> :)[01:19:06] <jessicah> oco2: yeah, I saw they addressed my complaint :p[01:19:16] <oco2> oh, just now ;-)[01:20:31] <jessicah> voted (:[01:20:57] <jessicah> I'm just reading through updates in feedback hub[01:21:06] <jessicah> I don't like to update to latest build straight away anymore[01:21:16] <jessicah> due to issues I've had with vbox being broken[01:21:20] <oco2> mmu_man : i haven't refresh the page before my previous comment ;-)[01:22:43] <mmu_man> oh, Jeremy answered my mail about it[01:22:58] <mmu_man> I guess my mail in june went to the spam bin[01:23:05] <oco2> here is the patch : https://haiku.freeboxos.fr:7678/share/Yfwz7OCS07qD2p6A/WSL_QuickFixes.diff[01:24:41] <oco2> please not it is a quick and dirty one : i have edited the file to keep only relevant parts (i have added lots of fprintf to trace problems and i have not yet cleaned my source tree)[01:25:06] <mmu_man> can't we have jam replace the char directly?[01:26:23] <oco2> Adrien said yesterday evening that the freetype version might be able to do so but not ours (at least, we don't know how...)[01:26:47] <mmu_man> I won't check tonight anyway[01:26:54] <oco2> mmu_man : patch are welcome ;-)[01:27:28] <mmu_man> ELAZY[01:28:50] *** ex-parrot <ex-parrot!~ex-parrot@fsf/member/ex-parrot> has left #haiku[01:29:39] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@d246113.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #haiku[01:31:24] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[01:34:23] <mmu_man> hmm do we have a public header with the syscall numbers?[01:34:27] <mmu_man> I suppose not[01:34:45] <jessicah> oh nice, you can launch win32 apps from WSL now? WSL looks like it's actually starting to become useful :p[01:36:27] <mmu_man> ah so it's not its own subsystem anymore?[01:36:42] <mmu_man> even NT4 had a POSIX subsystem...[01:37:02] <mmu_man> but subsystems in NT are like personalities in linux, they are orthogonal[01:37:17] <jessicah> it uses something called LxBus which seems to do the interop between the two subsystems[01:37:41] <jessicah> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/10/19/windows-and-ubuntu-interoperability/[01:37:45] <jessicah> if you want to know more[01:39:04] <jessicah> it's pretty clever what the WSL guys have been implementing[01:39:33] <oco2> mmu_man : you should read https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/06/08/wsl-system-calls/ ;-)[01:40:08] <jessicah> oco2: is WSL any faster now?[01:40:19] <jessicah> build times for haiku were ridiculous with WSL for me[01:40:36] <jessicah> almost a magnitude faster building in an ubuntu VM with vbox than using WSL[01:41:13] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #haiku[01:41:35] <oco2> from what i read this week end, it is essentially IO that are slow (maybe mostly when using NTFS partitions)[01:42:17] <oco2> yes i notice bad performances too, especially for mimeset command[01:42:37] <oco2> i spend my day yesterday to understand why[01:43:37] <mmu_man> yeah thx, but I was thinking haiku this time :p[01:43:47] <mmu_man> hmm we generate some headers for strace but they are not published[01:43:55] <oco2> guess_normalized_dir_path generate a lot of syscalls for files that seems not related[01:45:09] <jessicah> building the cross tools is insanely slow too[01:45:16] <mmu_man> it uses noderefs so probably has to walk back to a fullpath[01:45:53] <oco2> with Adrien, we replace the implementation with realpath call : it is already a huge improvement but we are not sure if it respect the intended behavior of the original implementation[01:50:09] *** kb7sqi <kb7sqi!~kb7sqi_@cpe-104-138-252-166.triad.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: kb7sqi)[01:55:01] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!vision@192.95.230.226> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[02:01:33] <mmu_man> dunno[02:01:43] <mmu_man> looks quite confusing[02:01:48] <mmu_man> would need real examples[02:01:50] <mmu_man> anyway[02:01:50] <mmu_man> zz[02:08:58] *** ksx4system <ksx4system!~ksx4syste@eris.mgst.eu> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - 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Please recheck.[06:52:22] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[07:09:32] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!alam@2001:470:1f07:238:1e6f:65ff:fed3:eba8> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[07:11:49] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.125.61> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:12:29] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!alam@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has joined #haiku[07:33:44] <jessicah> DHowett: will that make stuff like plugging in say one of those 2FA hardware tokens in, and having it show up as a device in WSL?[07:33:59] <jessicah> my friend has one of those, and has issues with using it under WSL[07:37:34] <DHowett> jessicah: i would very much love that ;P[07:37:50] <DHowett> I wonder if the long-term goal is to have IHVs write lxss drivers for certain things[07:38:28] <jessicah> would be intriguing[07:38:46] <jessicah> mm, seems the bug with jam got fixed in later WSL builds[07:38:56] <jessicah> don't need the mkdir -p hack anymore[07:39:04] <jessicah> wonder what fixed it though... weirdness[07:39:14] <jessicah> and oco's patch gets me a full build! yay[07:39:29] <jessicah> 48m51.303s to build though... ouch[07:39:50] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db44151.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[07:39:50] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[07:39:52] <DHowett> how long does it take outside WSL?[07:40:06] <jessicah> in my ubuntu vm in vbox, about 5 minutes[07:40:25] <DHowett> ![07:40:54] <jessicah> great, vbox doesn't startup[07:40:59] * jessicah goes gets the latest[07:41:34] <jessicah> I did say WSL is like an order of magnitude slower :p[07:41:40] <jessicah> the i/o absolutely kills it[07:43:45] <jessicah> let me do a clean build in my VM (:[07:44:16] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db44151.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[07:52:40] <jessicah> DHowett: 7m12.769s in my VM[08:02:44] *** DingoSaar <DingoSaar!~hagen@pD9E08BB3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 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*** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-trnuevwkbgkjabva> has joined #haiku[15:22:34] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:26:38] <HAIKU-irker082> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev50651 [3 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=12431ebff499+%5E5abeb2b49859[15:26:39] <HAIKU-irker082> 56f749a63f63: listusb: split out USB audio dumping to own file.[15:26:40] <HAIKU-irker082> e64640878a71: listusb: parse UVC devices[15:26:41] <HAIKU-irker082> 12431ebff499: listusb: dump video streams from UVC devices.[15:27:26] <PulkoMandy> arfonzo: I've put one of my machines back as a builder so things go a little faster[15:27:38] <PulkoMandy> we'll see if we can get to the end before both of them crash[15:27:51] <PulkoMandy> as during the weekend I never managed to do a full build of everything[15:28:04] <johnny_b> 8([15:28:29] <arfonzo> ok cool PulkoMandy[15:29:26] <arfonzo> I have noticed a KDL yesterday on my builder[15:29:53] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!alam@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:30:33] *** stargater <stargater!~stargater@x4db9f074.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[15:31:17] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!alam@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has joined #haiku[15:34:26] <PulkoMandy> I will see if I can crash mine and then debug it[15:35:18] <arfonzo> is there a way I can save my crashes?[15:39:15] <PulkoMandy> take a screenshot[15:39:31] <PulkoMandy> or log on the serial port, if your VM can do that[15:41:38] <arfonzo> I tried using serial port before in virtualbox, for that, haiku doesn't seem to boot with it enabled[15:41:46] <arfonzo> (I tried a serial port to raw file in vbox)[15:43:44] <PulkoMandy> it will be slow to boot (because serial port is slow and it logs a lot of stuff there)[15:43:51] <PulkoMandy> but it should boot eventually[15:44:48] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!alam@rigginstereo.lawarias.srb2.org> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:45:55] <arfonzo> ah? maybe I wasn't patient. I will try that again on my own Haiku VM (not the builder), to try first.[15:46:39] <arfonzo> can someone explain to me why in recipes commonly "devel:somelib" doesn't work, but "somelib_devel" does?[15:46:57] *** Alam_Squeeze <Alam_Squeeze!alam@2001:470:1f07:238:1e6f:65ff:fed3:eba8> has joined #haiku[15:47:37] <PulkoMandy> they aren't the same thing, somelib_devel is a package name, devel:somelib refers to a specific lib inside the package[15:47:42] <PulkoMandy> it's recommended to use the latter[15:47:57] <PulkoMandy> so if that doesn't work, look in the package you try to use what it is doing[15:47:59] <arfonzo> ah, ok. I thought it was now the same. alright[15:48:11] <PulkoMandy> maybe they did not put the correct PROVIDES entry[15:50:25] <arfonzo> hm, so I'm trying to fix the dgen recipe, and also support compressed ROMs (by using libarchive)[15:50:44] <arfonzo> I have this in my BUILD_REQUIRES: libarchive${secondaryArchSuffix}_devel[15:51:08] <arfonzo> and in the libarchive recile, the PROVIDES_devel has this: libarchive${secondaryArchSuffix}_devel = $portVersion compat >= 3.0 and devel:libarchive$secondaryArchSuffix = $portVersion compat >= 3.0[15:51:53] <arfonzo> and it's failing: *** failed to find a match for "libarchive_x86_devel": Name not found[15:53:55] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[15:54:10] <PulkoMandy> do you have a libarchive_x86_devel package already?[15:54:38] <PulkoMandy> if not, haikuporter will try to build it only if you don't use --no-dependencies or --get-dependencies[15:54:52] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db44151.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[15:54:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[15:55:16] <arfonzo> ah, ok, I don't think I've got that yet[15:55:31] <arfonzo> indeed I am using -no-deps[15:55:32] <PulkoMandy> so just build it first :)[15:55:53] <arfonzo> yep, I've just kicked off building that, I'll try after that, thanks[15:57:25] <arfonzo> PulkoMandy, does --get-dependencies rebuild packages which already exist?[15:57:52] <PulkoMandy> no, --get-dependencies downloads what it can from haikudepot[15:58:09] <PulkoMandy> but if the packages are not available there, it won't help[15:58:22] <arfonzo> hm, would you say it's better to build it first, or --get-deps?[15:58:23] *** nighty <nighty!~nighty@s229123.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp> has joined #haiku[15:58:35] <arfonzo> ah, ok, not everything is there?[15:58:47] <arfonzo> ah of course not. haikudepot.. ok.[15:59:04] <PulkoMandy> yes, currently haikudepot is manually populated so lots of things ñissing[15:59:16] <PulkoMandy> it will be a little more clear when I'm done with the release branch[15:59:16] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db44151.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[15:59:50] <arfonzo> ok, i guess that would be a good milestone, that everything buildable in haikuports is in haikudepot[16:00:02] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@ipd50ab3d6.speed.planet.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[16:00:51] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@ipd50ab3d6.speed.planet.nl> has joined #haiku[16:02:39] <PulkoMandy> well, for now I'm working in a branch with a much smaller subset[16:02:43] <arfonzo> PulkoMandy also, has there been any possibility of infinite retries on slaves reconnections?[16:02:47] <PulkoMandy> (roughly matching what is already in haikudepot)[16:02:56] <arfonzo> yes indeed, I know about this subset branch, but once day, maybe we'll get there :)[16:03:05] <PulkoMandy> arfonzo: only if we find a coder with some python skills :>[16:03:24] <arfonzo> can you point me towards the source code?[16:03:31] <johnny_b> PulkoMandy: what do you need?[16:03:59] <PulkoMandy> http://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/buildmaster[16:04:03] <PulkoMandy> somewhere in there[16:04:51] <arfonzo> https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/tree/master/buildmaster[16:04:53] <arfonzo> ok, thanks.[16:05:03] <PulkoMandy> https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/blob/master/HaikuPorter/BuildMaster.py[16:05:16] <PulkoMandy> this seems to be the buildmaster implementation[16:05:28] *** siel <siel!~siel@unaffiliated/motley> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:05:30] <PulkoMandy> self.maxConnectionErrors = 10[16:05:35] <PulkoMandy> sounds like the right place[16:05:49] <arfonzo> well yes, for one, I'd bump that to 1000 maybe[16:06:01] <arfonzo> but perhaps we can add some code here just to check a boolean for infinite retries[16:06:21] <johnny_b> infinite? brrr ...[16:07:18] <arfonzo> I'm not watching the VM all day, and there are points where I could be out an entire day or week, and it'll stay offline until I can get back to reset it... unfortunately. It'd be nice to be able to set this per-slave.[16:07:44] <arfonzo> but it will always come back, I promise :) At least mine.[16:07:45] <PulkoMandy> well each slave has a json config, so that sounds possible[16:07:56] <arfonzo> indeed, that's what I'm thinking.[16:08:02] <PulkoMandy> I would increase it in any case, at least enough to let the slave a chance to reboot[16:08:20] <PulkoMandy> (there is a 5 second pause between tries so currently that allows for 50 seconds offline)[16:08:42] <arfonzo> that's not even enough time to tell me on IRC that it's down... :([16:09:01] <HAIKU-irker082> haiku.master: kallisti5 * hrev50652 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=c6bd5d1ea555+%5E12431ebff499[16:09:02] <HAIKU-irker082> c6bd5d1ea555: xhci: Use 64-bit pci addresses when requested[16:09:53] <arfonzo> https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter/blob/master/HaikuPorter/BuildMaster.py#L180[16:10:03] <arfonzo> perhaps that hardcoded 5 can be set as a variable, too[16:10:22] <PulkoMandy> well I'd rather increase the retry count[16:11:03] <arfonzo> I've seen some apps that gradually increase the sleep() time, as the number of retries increases, too.[16:12:07] <arfonzo> so something like time.sleep(5*self.connectionErrors)[16:12:20] *** siel <siel!~siel@unaffiliated/motley> has joined #haiku[16:16:30] *** eddy_b <eddy_b!~eddyb@ipd50ab3d6.speed.planet.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[16:24:22] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3131 of haiku-master-x86_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_hybrid/builds/3131 blamelist: Alexander von Gluck IV <kallisti5 at unixzen dot com>[16:43:16] <arfonzo> PulkoMandy: you're right about the serial port, thanks[16:43:39] <arfonzo> I'm watching the serial console via powershell now while it's booting, this is super slow[16:44:12] <arfonzo> will this slow down my experience once booted?[16:45:59] <PulkoMandy> a little, but not as much as during boot where lots of things are logged[16:47:41] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d856983.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[16:47:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[16:47:48] <arfonzo> I like the UDP idea :)[16:47:55] <arfonzo> especially if it means this goes faster, mmph[16:48:19] <PulkoMandy> yes, network is 100 megabits, serial is around 100 kilobytes[16:48:23] <PulkoMandy> so, 1000x faster[16:48:42] * humdinger holds onto his hat[16:49:03] <arfonzo> haha[16:49:41] <Vidrep> Good morning[16:50:26] <PulkoMandy> hi![16:50:41] <PulkoMandy> the new webkit was released today. Please test and see if you can crash it :>[16:50:51] * PulkoMandy prepares for the avalanche of new bugreports[16:51:22] <arfonzo> I'm using it already here... have you guys ever noticed that the address bar doesn't update with the page changing?[16:51:52] <PulkoMandy> sometimes, mostly on github[16:52:04] <arfonzo> I was just going to say that, I can replicate this on github all the time[16:52:09] <Vidrep> PukoMandy, I crashed it 45 minutes ago[16:52:20] <Vidrep> Sorry[16:53:00] <PulkoMandy> Vidrep: no problem, at least it is up to date so I can't reply "this is probably already fixed"[16:53:17] <Vidrep> Webpositive totally froze. After attaching the debugger, the debugger crashed![16:53:37] <Vidrep> I will try to find a set of steps to reproduce[16:53:38] <humdinger> hey, the drawing issues with the popup menus on Trac are gone![16:55:11] <PulkoMandy> humdinger: not completely I think, this needs to be fixed in BControlLook[16:55:46] <arfonzo> can someone please test: put a proxy into the settings, then right click > open a link in a new tab[16:55:59] <Vidrep> There are some redirect bugs[16:56:03] <arfonzo> afaik it's not supposed to use proxy settings at the moment, but that stops pages from opening for me[16:56:08] <arfonzo> but if i disable proxy, it works[16:56:29] <PulkoMandy> the proxy is partially implemented[16:56:30] <arfonzo> (specifically talking about right click > new tab breakage)[16:56:34] <PulkoMandy> (only for http, no https yet)[16:56:53] <Vidrep> Try this one: https://www.haiku-os.org/->IRC Channels->Channel Logs[16:57:33] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@150.237.94.36> has joined #haiku[16:57:43] <Vidrep> A second tab opens, but it is blank. If you refresh it, it goes to Google Search[16:58:41] <PulkoMandy> doesn't seem to be a redirect problem, copying and pasting the link doesn't work either[16:58:46] <PulkoMandy> so something strange with that page[16:58:47] <humdinger> strange, I have a long delay until a page starts loading in a new tab every other time[16:59:07] <arfonzo> PulkoMandy, ahh, gotcha, so http proxy should be working, but https, will that work without proxy, or break?[16:59:12] <Vidrep> Right on cue, Webpositive just crashed - debug report saved[17:00:54] <PulkoMandy> arfonzo: I dont remember what will happen for https[17:01:32] <Vidrep> I'll go through my old Web+ tickets to see what has been fixed, before I create new tickets for what has been broken :)[17:01:37] <humdinger> I retract my statement wrt popup menus... you were right PulkoMandy. :)[17:02:46] <PulkoMandy> humdinger: but I know where the problem is, and it is on Haiku side (in BControlLook and app_Server)[17:02:54] <PulkoMandy> so no need for a new webkit release for that[17:03:28] <humdinger> that's good at least. :)[17:04:59] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, what were those commits about for UVC devices? Is this some kind of very early implementation of webcam support?[17:05:26] *** GeneralDuke <GeneralDuke!~Thunderbi@pdi29.internetdsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: GeneralDuke)[17:05:37] <humdinger> PulkoMandy: no sense in commenting existing tickets to say they are still valid, right?[17:08:02] <PulkoMandy> humdinger: depends for how long they are inactive[17:08:22] <PulkoMandy> Vidrep: actually we already have a partial driver for webcams[17:08:42] <humdinger> OK, I'll comment if it's older than 4 years.[17:08:43] <PulkoMandy> I made it detect my webcam, but it still only gives be black frames (and crashes)[17:09:06] <PulkoMandy> humdinger: I often sort ticket by "modified" column depending on what I want to do[17:09:16] <PulkoMandy> (revisit old stuff or get the new and fresh bugs)[17:16:50] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[17:22:26] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, trac won't allow me to attach sylogs, etc.[17:22:31] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #3132 of haiku-master-x86_hybrid is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_hybrid/builds/3132[17:23:52] <Vidrep> "Trac thinks your submission might be Spam. To prove otherwise please provide a response to the following."[17:24:08] <Vidrep> After several attempts, no go[17:25:05] <Vidrep> rebooting to older 64 bit[17:25:07] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[17:25:24] <humdinger> doubleclicking a local html file only puts "file:///" in web+ url text field and shows the file list of /[17:29:13] *** knarf <knarf!~knarf@89-159-149-97.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:35:50] <DHowett> jessicah: that's a clean full build of haiku? in 7 minutes?![17:37:08] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[17:37:30] <Vidrep> That last reboot was a real adventure...[17:39:01] <humdinger> did you have to run from a big spherical rock that seemed to follow you?[17:39:30] <PulkoMandy> we have xrick fir that :>[17:39:46] <humdinger> wahhh[17:40:45] <humdinger> If I have an open pull request, can I just commit another change and do a "push -f" and it'll be updated?[17:40:47] <Vidrep> I booted to 64 bit to attach my debug report and syslog (new WebKit won't allow it)[17:41:36] <humdinger> PulkoMandy: btw, that issue with opening a local html file didn't show up with the webkit version you gave me at BG.[17:41:43] <PulkoMandy> humdinger: yes[17:41:57] <humdinger> the push -f?[17:42:01] <PulkoMandy> yes[17:42:05] <humdinger> thanks :)[17:42:16] <PulkoMandy> and for file:// I suspect Andrew's changes to BUrl but I'll have to debug[17:42:20] <Vidrep> After a reboot back to x86_gcc2 I get a quick flash of a KDL (or something) on the screen before I see the desktop. However, everything was frozen (no mouse or keyboard)[17:42:45] <Vidrep> Interesting morning :)[17:42:48] <PulkoMandy> more likely an app_server crash if you still got the desktop[17:42:57] <PulkoMandy> in that case you can try to type save-report[17:43:05] <PulkoMandy> and you get the report on the desktop at next boot[17:43:16] <Vidrep> No keyboard[17:43:25] <Vidrep> or mouse[17:43:48] <PulkoMandy> you can type blindly in case it works :)[17:44:17] <Vidrep> I tried Alt-Ctrl-del - nothing[17:44:28] <Vidrep> Hard reboot required[17:45:51] <Vidrep> It looks like our new WebKit is not working so well with captcha[17:54:49] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[17:55:39] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db44151.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[17:55:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[17:55:49] *** geoid_ <geoid_!~geoid@95.131.217.194> has quit IRC (Quit: Be back later ...)[17:56:25] *** geoid_ <geoid_!~geoid@95.131.217.194> has joined #haiku[17:56:40] *** TMM <TMM!~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[18:00:02] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@92.62.199.162> has joined #haiku[18:00:04] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db44151.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:00:28] *** geoid_ <geoid_!~geoid@95.131.217.194> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[18:03:50] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@55d4552b.access.ecotel.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:03:59] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@55d4552b.access.ecotel.net> has joined #haiku[18:11:23] *** bbjimmy <bbjimmy!vision@184.21.125.61> has joined #haiku[18:13:19] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@150.237.94.36> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:16:50] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@92.62.199.162> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[18:19:00] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@92.62.199.162> has joined #haiku[18:20:15] *** hare2 <hare2!~Pol23@p5DD451AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[18:20:54] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:df54:60:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has joined #haiku[18:21:48] <bbjimmy> Pulkimandy, Thanks for all your hard work![18:26:36] *** leszek <leszek!~leszek@55d4552b.access.ecotel.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:29:29] *** hare2 <hare2!~Pol23@p5DD451AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[18:30:42] <HAIKU-irker082> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev50653 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=070c8b72c7e7+%5Ec6bd5d1ea555[18:30:43] <HAIKU-irker082> 070c8b72c7e7: CodyCam: fix layout[18:37:47] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~LLP@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[18:38:56] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~LLP@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has joined #haiku[18:44:36] * humdinger has returned[18:49:44] <HAIKU-irker082> haiku.master: humdinger * hrev50654 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1649750c5d96+%5E070c8b72c7e7[18:49:45] <HAIKU-irker082> 1649750c5d96: Fixed telus.net ProviderInfo[18:50:23] <tchbnl> Evening, fellow Haikuers.[18:50:33] <humdinger> hullo tchbnl[18:51:13] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-okvheflbfxivmaki> has joined #haiku[18:52:22] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[18:52:47] <Vidrep> These browsing sessions are getting more interesting by the minute[18:53:33] <Vidrep> I went to Google Maps, and when zooming in my screen went black and the monitor went into power save mode[18:54:00] <Vidrep> A hard reboot was required to recover[18:54:20] *** SteveH2013 <SteveH2013!~vision@c-73-148-199-21.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has joined #haiku[18:54:36] <Vidrep> I think I'm going to start serial logging these browsing sessions[18:54:37] <humdinger> probably zoomed to a restricted area.[18:54:44] <humdinger> the goverment, you know...[18:54:49] <Vidrep> LOL[18:54:59] <Vidrep> It was a map of Germany[18:55:50] <humdinger> still in the sphere of influence[18:56:21] <tchbnl> Maybe you accidentally zoomed in on Bielefeld.[18:56:30] <Vidrep> I have another PC's with Haiku. I'll try the same on them to see if the problem is just on this one I'm using or not.[18:57:05] <SteveH2013> May have posted it too late the other day for the BeGeisert intel_extreme graphics devs to get the word so one last time. I have a C300 Compaq Presario laptop with an i945GM graphics chip which was affected by the recent changes and no longer worked. The fix to write to Port B at the same time as Port A worked. All is well now.[18:57:56] <Vidrep> switching PC's...[18:57:59] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[18:58:18] <SteveH2013> Thanks to miqlas for going to BeGeisert to help get this resolved![18:58:48] <humdinger> Cool, SteveH2013! I had not such luck...[18:58:55] <humdinger> but VESA works, so I'm OK.[19:03:00] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[19:07:37] *** SteveH2013 <SteveH2013!~vision@c-73-148-199-21.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[19:18:26] *** halvor <halvor!~root@93.190.51.246> has joined #haiku[19:19:31] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has quit IRC ()[19:30:39] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@92.62.199.162> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[19:36:00] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~LLP@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[19:36:40] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[19:39:17] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~LLP@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has joined #haiku[19:45:06] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-195-72.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[19:45:51] <HAIKU-irker082> haiku.master: barrett * hrev50655 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ce8fd1068349+%5E1649750c5d96[19:45:52] <HAIKU-irker082> ce8fd1068349: MediaPlayer: Emulate duration attribute for BUrl playlists[19:48:09] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[19:49:16] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[19:49:30] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~LLP@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[19:50:10] <arfonzo> PulkoMandy, the builder KDL'd, I've just rebooted.[19:50:44] *** halvor <halvor!~root@93.190.51.246> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[19:51:20] *** bitkid <bitkid!~bitkid@x1-6-c0-ff-d4-9c-db-ec.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #haiku[19:52:30] <arfonzo> it might take 10-15 minutes to start though, as I've just enabled the serial logging[19:53:06] <arfonzo> PulkoMandy, here's the KDL screenshot: http://arfonzo.org/pub/pictures/screenshots/haiku_kdl_20160102.png[19:54:00] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[19:57:11] *** TMM <TMM!~hp@fsf/member/pdpc.professional.tmm> has joined #haiku[19:57:54] <PulkoMandy> wow, this can happen with real mkstemps?[19:57:58] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, the CodyCam layout looks much better now. Now all we need are some webcams that work on Haiku.[19:58:15] <PulkoMandy> arfonzo: looks like it is worth a bugreport[19:58:30] <PulkoMandy> I had similar issues in the past but I assumed it was a bug in bash, apparently it is not[19:58:34] <Vidrep> Low prioriy, but it would be nice to have one day[19:58:50] <arfonzo> PulkoMandy, where should I report it under?[19:58:51] <PulkoMandy> Vidrep: yes, I made the driver detect my webcam, but I get only blackness and it is very crashy[19:59:03] <PulkoMandy> arfonzo: dev.haiku-os.org, filesystems/bfs I think[19:59:15] <arfonzo> ok. I'm about to step away soon, but I will add it tonight or tomorrow[20:00:50] <PulkoMandy> thanks[20:01:09] <PulkoMandy> on my machine app_server crashed, but that doesn't prevent the build to continue at least[20:01:27] <PulkoMandy> but I see it will not be this easy to have bots providing us with packages :/[20:02:13] *** LeandroLuiz <LeandroLuiz!~LLP@unaffiliated/leandroluiz> has joined #haiku[20:05:17] <arfonzo> :([20:08:36] <arfonzo> PulkoMandy, ticket created: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/13051[20:09:49] *** Klima <Klima!~Klima@static-78-8-176-191.ssp.dialog.net.pl> has joined #haiku[20:29:12] *** halvor <halvor!~root@93.190.51.142> has joined #haiku[20:31:47] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, thanks for putting so much effort and time into Web+[20:32:14] <Vidrep> ...and a LOT of other areas[20:32:43] *** cucujoidea <cucujoidea!5ed92e4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.217.46.75> has joined #haiku[20:34:35] <Vidrep> Were do we go from here, insofar as existing ticketsnew bugs that have come to light?[20:40:23] *** halvor <halvor!~root@93.190.51.142> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[20:43:35] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[20:43:35] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-195-72.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:46:45] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-187-064.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[20:46:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[20:46:59] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d856983.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8pre9]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[20:48:17] <PulkoMandy> Vidrep: close tickets where the issue is gone, ping me when it isn't, and open new tickets for the new bugs[20:48:56] <PulkoMandy> anyone knows where the GPT header is stored on a disk with 4K sectors? wikipedia says "LBA 1" so that would be at 4K rather than 512 bytes from start of disk, is that correct?[20:49:15] <PulkoMandy> I guess no one tried Haiku with disks woth 4K sectors anyway[20:50:26] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has joined #haiku[20:51:59] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, OK...will do[20:52:30] <PulkoMandy> what's your feeling? did i make things better or worse this time?[20:52:32] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kvirc@89-65-141-121.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #haiku[20:52:43] <Vidrep> Which dev(s) are responsible these days for Haiku email?[20:53:02] *** halvor <halvor!~root@93.190.51.142> has joined #haiku[20:53:26] <KapiX> PulkoMandy I have just tested Web+ and I am impressed![20:54:07] <KapiX> YouTube works very well, besides some crashes in Media Kit[20:54:16] <KapiX> just opened 2 tickets[20:54:49] <Vidrep> PulkoMandy, some things are better, some are the same, and some are worse. How's that for a equivocal answer? :)[20:54:52] <PulkoMandy> well youtube is mostly thanks to Barret's work now. I'm using the Media Kit mostly directly[20:55:12] <PulkoMandy> Vidrep: ok, that's good. At least I can try to fix more things and not break more things now :)[20:55:35] <PulkoMandy> (I think WebKit itself should crash less, and the remaining issues are probably on Haiku side in several cases)[20:56:16] <Vidrep> There's a few things I haven not tried yet on Web+. One of them being YouTube.[20:56:53] <Vidrep> The crashiest thing I have seen so far is Google Maps[20:57:28] <PulkoMandy> yes, tiles :([20:57:43] <PulkoMandy> this is designed to work with OpenGL, and we don't have it[20:57:57] <PulkoMandy> we have a software implementation instead but it eats lots of memory and ports[20:59:05] <Vidrep> I had two tickets that came out of the Just Energy website. The page no longer hangs. That's the good news.[20:59:41] <PulkoMandy> yes, that was a bug in the HTTP code, it may have caused hangs in other places too[21:00:10] <Vidrep> The bad news is that the text for the login is almost invisible, and you cannot login - it keeps returning to the login page[21:00:32] <Vidrep> So, that's probably two separate bugs[21:00:46] <PulkoMandy> yes, and the second one is hard to test for me as I don't have a login[21:00:53] <PulkoMandy> most likely a cookie problem again[21:01:22] <Vidrep> Fix one at a time[21:01:59] <Vidrep> I have not tried GitHub yet either[21:03:26] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-okvheflbfxivmaki> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[21:03:32] <Vidrep> Earlier today I couldn't get past Captcha with Web+ to upload my attachments to a ticket. It worked when I switched to a older Web+ revision on 64 bit.[21:04:00] <Vidrep> So, that appears to be a regression[21:04:20] *** Miyu <Miyu!~hackkitte@HSI-KBW-149-172-240-159.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #haiku[21:06:40] *** hackkitten <hackkitten!~hackkitte@HSI-KBW-149-172-240-159.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[21:10:02] *** Miyu is now known as hackkitten[21:31:47] *** roptat <roptat!~roptat@2083.rez-gif.supelec.fr> has joined #haiku[21:32:15] <Vidrep> Good news. I was able to attach a debug report to trac without triggering a captcha.[21:33:33] <jessicah> DHowett: yup[21:33:41] <jessicah> that doesn't include building cross compiler(s)[21:34:02] <jessicah> but that has similar speed differences between WSL and Ubuntu in vbox VM[21:34:22] <jessicah> file i/o appears to be extremely terrible[21:34:40] <jessicah> DHowett: also using files under /mnt/c/[21:34:47] <jessicah> rather than the linux filesystem[21:34:56] <jessicah> but ran into similar speed issues there as well[21:35:23] <jessicah> guessing it's still ntfs under the hood, with all the emulation that involves, whether using DrvFs or VolFs[21:36:57] <KapiX> vidrep: your debug report should probably go to #13052 instead of #13053[21:39:37] <Vidrep> The second and third crashes occurred when no video was being played[21:39:54] <Vidrep> Just loading the YouTube page was enough[21:40:32] <Vidrep> I guess i could attach my debug report to that one as well[21:51:27] *** hako_ <hako_!~hako@5.151.176.16> has joined #haiku[21:55:12] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-167-159-162.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:55:28] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-197-127-248.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #haiku[21:55:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[21:57:13] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db44151.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[21:57:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[21:59:26] *** Vidrep <Vidrep!~vision@d108-173-62-64.abhsia.telus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[22:00:53] <HAIKU-irker082> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev50656 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1674f60daebc+%5Ece8fd1068349[22:00:54] <HAIKU-irker082> 5c65d2f5d152: Properly add the BeDecorator to the image[22:00:55] <HAIKU-irker082> 1674f60daebc: Implement uninitialization for GPT[22:01:38] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db44151.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[22:05:44] <HAIKU-irker082> haiku.master: korli * hrev50657 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=2085048ea9b5+%5E1674f60daebc[22:05:45] <HAIKU-irker082> 2085048ea9b5: Terminal: insert space on tab only at the end of the line.[22:10:05] *** cucujoidea <cucujoidea!5ed92e4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.217.46.75> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[22:14:32] *** oco2 <oco2!~haiku@brs60-1-88-125-140-2.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[22:15:41] *** tsyesika_ <tsyesika_!uid86777@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yhrfozrwxcwrvqxx> has joined #haiku[22:15:47] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:15:56] *** tsyesika_ <tsyesika_!uid86777@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yhrfozrwxcwrvqxx> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:16:16] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[22:22:09] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has joined #haiku[22:31:30] *** Klima <Klima!~Klima@static-78-8-176-191.ssp.dialog.net.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Quiit...)[22:43:14] *** KapiX <KapiX!~kvirc@89-65-141-121.dynamic.chello.pl> has left #haiku ("No boundaries on the net!")[22:50:41] *** mattlacey <mattlacey!~mattlacey@59-100-30-52.mel.static-ipl.aapt.com.au> has joined #haiku[22:55:14] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has quit IRC (Quit: rebooting, brb)[22:57:21] *** FreeFull <FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover> has joined #haiku[23:12:09] *** Manchotix <Manchotix!~Manchotix@ip-178-202-195-72.hsi09.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #haiku[23:12:46] *** xemdetia <xemdetia!xemdetia@nat/ibm/x-trnuevwkbgkjabva> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[23:17:05] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:17:42] *** [r4] <[r4]!~r4]@staticline-31-183-98-219.toya.net.pl> has joined #haiku[23:17:58] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-089-166-187-064.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[23:57:59] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db44151.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[23:57:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi