May 29, 2016 
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May 29, 2016 [00:02:45] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e36aac7.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[00:02:47] *** Auroz <Auroz!~Auroz@unaffiliated/cheeselord99> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:03:51] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson synchronize pull request #617: lipng: bump to 1.5.27 & 1.6.22, add TEST(). - https://git.io/vrHYT[00:04:13] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson edited pull request #617: libpng: bump to 1.5.27 & 1.6.22, add TEST(). - https://git.io/vrHYT[00:04:21] * IIsi50MHz writes hrev50335, writes, restarts to Boot Loader Death Land[00:06:08] * IIsi50MHz tries an old USB of unknown hrev, gets Haiku progress icons, then no bootable partitions found[00:06:38] * IIsi50MHz tries connecting hrev50335 immediately after the old USB says "Loading system..."[00:07:06] <IIsi50MHz> Still no boot partitions. Really thought that might work (:[00:07:34] <tojoko> don't know what u mean - can't u plug in both sticks at the same time?[00:09:09] <IIsi50MHz> One died in Boot Loader Death Land. One died after starting the Haiku boot icon sequence.[00:09:51] <IIsi50MHz> I tried to use the second one with the first one connected, expecting that it would find a boot partition that way.[00:11:01] <IIsi50MHz> Now trying hrev50335 on the B100B. Looks like video has gone pear-shaped.[00:12:20] *** FlyingJester <FlyingJester!~Kashyyyk@2602:306:31c4:2820::3e9> has joined #haiku[00:12:40] <tojoko> ahhhhhh, i might got it. yumi:[00:12:51] <IIsi50MHz> Takes a very long time on the disc icon, then proceeds to a black screen with a grey intermittent bar on the bottom. /-:[00:13:08] <tojoko> Since version 0.0.7.6, YUMI supports Windows XP Install from USB via ISO.[00:13:08] <tojoko> The Windows XP Installation from USB option currently works by booting directly from your XP ISO, hence the YUMI menu entry is created under "Directly Bootable ISOs". In order for the Windows XP installation to succeed, you must perform the following steps;[00:13:37] <tojoko> IIsi50MHz, sorry. have no idea.[00:14:53] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[00:15:44] <tojoko> is there a difference between the haiku-nightly-anyboot and an iso?[00:15:58] <FlyingJester> isos are meant to be burned to discs[00:16:08] <FlyingJester> anyboot could be put on a USB drive.[00:16:24] <FlyingJester> Sometimes ISOs work on USB drives too, but that is very dependant on your motherboad and bios/efi.[00:16:36] <tojoko> FlyingJester, you think i can rename the anyboot to iso?[00:16:42] <FlyingJester> Why would you?[00:16:49] <FlyingJester> It won't change anything.[00:17:05] <FlyingJester> And if a tool really expects an ISO, you're not going to get better results renaming an anyboot image.[00:17:57] <tojoko> ok, i gotta take an iso, then i will try the cd version on an usb stick. have no idea why that shouldn't work. The other way around of course could lead to haiku tryin' to write on a cd-rom, but this way ...[00:18:49] <FlyingJester> It usually works to me to use an ISO dd'ed onto a USB drive, but you'd get better results typically from using an anyboot image on a USB drive.[00:19:37] <tojoko> ok, thanks.[00:24:29] <tojoko> nope[00:38:31] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[00:51:34] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-2-38-1-98.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[01:23:53] *** orealis_ <orealis_!~cre8or@51.174.179.178> has joined #haiku[01:25:27] *** Mazon <Mazon!~Mazon@37.205.127.168> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[01:26:09] *** orealis <orealis!~cre8or@51.174.179.178> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[01:26:09] *** orealis_ is now known as orealis[01:28:16] <IIsi50MHz> Woo! hrev49180 on my Phenom II x4-something.[01:28:54] <IIsi50MHz> Turns out Haiku can't find itself if booting from USB plugged into my monitor, but works on the motherboard. I'd forgotten that.[01:29:45] <IIsi50MHz> hrev50335 still page faults in the boot loader.[01:31:39] *** Mazon <Mazon!~Mazon@37.205.127.168> has joined #haiku[01:32:05] <IIsi50MHz> Wow, ActivityMonitor defaults to every 100 ms! I'm so used to slower default monitoring.[01:33:21] <IIsi50MHz> I forgot hrev49180 has a broken WebPositive that dumps HTML as text.[01:40:02] *** KD9FQT <KD9FQT!~KD9FQT@166.170.222.81> has joined #haiku[01:40:07] *** KD9FQT <KD9FQT!~KD9FQT@166.170.222.81> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[01:40:27] *** KD9FQT <KD9FQT!~KD9FQT@166.170.222.81> has joined #haiku[01:40:32] *** KD9FQT <KD9FQT!~KD9FQT@166.170.222.81> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[01:40:34] * IIsi50MHz tries to open bookmark files in QupZilla )-:[01:41:02] *** KD9FQT <KD9FQT!~KD9FQT@166.170.222.81> has joined #haiku[01:41:10] *** KD9FQT <KD9FQT!~KD9FQT@166.170.222.81> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[01:41:44] *** KD9FQT <KD9FQT!~KD9FQT@166.170.222.81> has joined #haiku[01:41:49] *** KD9FQT <KD9FQT!~KD9FQT@166.170.222.81> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[01:43:32] *** miqlas-H <miqlas-H!~vision@85-10-244-173.clients.your-server.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[01:44:41] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[01:44:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[02:00:09] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.143.123> has joined #haiku[02:13:38] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.143.123> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:07:54] *** happy-dude <happy-dude!uid62780@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gfptddapobylstji> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[03:13:39] * IIsi50MHz attempts to kill Haiku--er, pkgman update it from hrev49180[03:14:12] <IIsi50MHz> Actually, even if this works as designed, it'll probably leave this USB stick unbootable.[03:14:56] <IIsi50MHz> I already tried writing the image for hrev50335, and the bootloader just page faults.[03:17:26] <IIsi50MHz> I can just restore by running Installer from the B100B with this USB as target.[03:18:26] *** KD9FQT <KD9FQT!~KD9FQT@166.170.222.81> has joined #haiku[03:18:27] *** dorje <dorje!~dorje@99-27-56-171.lightspeed.oshkwi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #haiku[03:18:31] *** KD9FQT <KD9FQT!~KD9FQT@166.170.222.81> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[03:18:45] <IIsi50MHz> I never noticed until today that the "text" progress bar shown in Terminal by pkgman /looks/ like rectangle characters, but is drawn per-pixel.[03:19:39] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4e37b117.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[03:19:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[03:23:24] *** leer10 <leer10!~leer10@96-41-185-203.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[03:23:48] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4e37b117.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[03:25:37] *** leer10 <leer10!~leer10@96-41-185-203.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com> has joined #haiku[03:35:54] <IIsi50MHz> "Holy Guacamole, it worked!"[03:36:20] <IIsi50MHz> Then I wonder why the ISO burnt to CD page-faults in the boot loader?[03:36:30] <IIsi50MHz> Same hrev50335.[03:38:00] <IIsi50MHz> But the Weather replicant insists there's a connection error.[03:40:48] <IIsi50MHz> Actually, looks like updating via pkgman left things inconsistent.[03:41:11] <IIsi50MHz> HaikuDepot can't load due to missing symbols.[03:41:27] <IIsi50MHz> WebPositive still dumps raw HTML instead of rendering.[03:41:33] * IIsi50MHz ponders[03:42:33] <IIsi50MHz> Ug, even pkgman is broken now.[03:42:47] <IIsi50MHz> Guess I'll rollback.[03:45:08] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[03:47:35] *** dorje <dorje!~dorje@99-27-56-171.lightspeed.oshkwi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: dorje)[03:57:27] <IIsi50MHz> Decided to browse the discs instead.[03:58:07] <IIsi50MHz> pkgman didn't update openssl to 1.0.2g[04:09:22] <IIsi50MHz> I fixed it![04:09:28] *** dorje <dorje!~dorje@99-27-56-171.lightspeed.oshkwi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #haiku[04:09:42] <IIsi50MHz> Copied two openssl packages from the CD;[04:10:00] <IIsi50MHz> deleted the corresponding old packages from the USB.[04:10:02] <IIsi50MHz> Rebooted.[04:11:03] <IIsi50MHz> HaikuDepot works again. Weather replicant works.[04:11:18] <IIsi50MHz> Hrm, WebPositive is still dumping raw HTML.[04:11:27] <IIsi50MHz> Something else must be mismatched.[04:24:52] <IIsi50MHz> Affects QupZilla, too.[04:31:36] *** dorje <dorje!~dorje@99-27-56-171.lightspeed.oshkwi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: dorje)[04:35:24] <Not-b880> [haikuports] waddlesplash closed pull request #617: libpng: bump to 1.5.27 & 1.6.22, add TEST(). - https://git.io/vrHYT[04:35:25] <Not-b880> [haikuports] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/vrHCL[04:35:27] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson 87a6565 - libpng: bump to 1.5.27 & 1.6.22, add TEST(). (#617)[04:39:54] *** dorje <dorje!~dorje@99-27-56-171.lightspeed.oshkwi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #haiku[04:42:57] *** Sri_Designer <Sri_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[04:43:07] *** dorje <dorje!~dorje@99-27-56-171.lightspeed.oshkwi.sbcglobal.net> has left #haiku[04:45:03] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[04:55:15] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:df50:c0:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:07:25] <IIsi50MHz> Hmm, can't find any other package mismatches.[05:07:42] <IIsi50MHz> But WebPositive and QupZilla both dump raw HTML instead of rendering pages.[05:27:09] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:31:04] * IIsi50MHz goes back to the beginning, find QupZilla works fine[05:31:32] <IIsi50MHz> Ok...I must be too tired. Which one besides Web+ didn't work? *tries them all again*[05:33:23] <IIsi50MHz> BeZilla.[05:34:28] <IIsi50MHz> >.< I better sleep before I keep uttering crazy[05:38:27] *** AlienSoldier <AlienSoldier!~vision@modemcable241.24-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[05:39:55] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has joined #haiku[05:40:09] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:49:54] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has joined #haiku[05:50:27] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[05:55:05] *** Sir_Designer <Sir_Designer!~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug> has joined #haiku[06:17:13] *** blinky42 <blinky42!~quassel@jabber.blinkylight.net> has joined #haiku[06:52:55] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has joined #haiku[07:12:11] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:14:08] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@host-92-10-192-224.as43234.net> has joined #haiku[07:21:12] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db445ac.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[07:21:12] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[07:25:33] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db445ac.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:46:11] *** Begasus <Begasus!~Begas_@d54c3d303.access.telenet.be> has joined #haiku[07:52:51] *** ii-v <ii-v!~Thunderbi@h161n2-vb-v-d1.ias.bredband.telia.com> has joined #haiku[07:54:05] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@host-92-10-192-224.as43234.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:07:06] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[08:10:17] <Not-b880> [haikuports] Begasus synchronize pull request #607: color-lines, new recipe - https://git.io/vr2D9[08:27:42] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d858167.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[08:27:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[08:38:04] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-167-181-75.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:38:18] *** soakbot <soakbot!~soakbot@ec2-54-158-23-246.compute-1.amazonaws.com> has joined #haiku[08:38:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[08:47:58] <Not-b880> [haikuports] Begasus synchronize pull request #607: color-lines, new recipe - https://git.io/vr2D9[08:50:07] <Not-b880> [haikuports] Begasus synchronize pull request #607: color-lines, new recipe - https://git.io/vr2D9[08:50:45] <Not-b880> [haikuports] Begasus synchronize pull request #607: color-lines, new recipe - https://git.io/vr2D9[08:53:01] <Not-b880> [haikuports] Begasus synchronize pull request #607: color-lines, new recipe - https://git.io/vr2D9[08:53:36] <Not-b880> [haikuports] Begasus synchronize pull request #607: color-lines, new recipe - https://git.io/vr2D9[09:04:14] <tojoko> can anybody tell me how to add haiku to grub for windows?[09:04:33] *** ii-v <ii-v!~Thunderbi@h161n2-vb-v-d1.ias.bredband.telia.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:10:46] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@host-92-10-192-224.as43234.net> has joined #haiku[09:20:19] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@host-92-10-192-224.as43234.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:28:21] *** Auroz <Auroz!~Auroz@unaffiliated/cheeselord99> has joined #haiku[09:29:17] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.143.123> has joined #haiku[09:30:42] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d858167.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[09:31:27] <vjacob> hello all.[09:32:27] <vjacob> how do I disable some of the boot options permanently, that I can configure after holding down the the spacebar upon boot? The latest build is giving my netbook some issues[09:32:58] <vjacob> it's either that or reverting to a build from sometime in 2015...[09:36:46] <tojoko> https://www.haiku-os.org/community/forum/switiching_permanently_old_hrev or https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/barrett/2013-12-15_how_permanently_blacklist_package_file ?[09:41:27] <vjacob> hmm[09:44:11] <vjacob> HaikuDepot seems to have some issues quitting across different builds (blocked on a modal panel)[09:46:54] <vjacob> I havet yet to download something using the package manager, but HaikuDepot does look mighty interesting, even if I don't really know what's going on when I click install (no log/screen output?)[09:47:19] <vjacob> apparently there are some issues with either WPA2 or the WiFi on the Asus EEE PC 1000H that I am using[09:47:58] <vjacob> refreshing to see how many types of packages are in there (in HaikuDepot) that said[09:49:54] *** cc^mint <cc^mint!~Cybertron@p508183BE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[09:52:48] *** vjacob__ <vjacob__!~vjacob@82.103.128.159> has joined #haiku[09:53:27] *** arroyoc <arroyoc!~Thunderbi@46.136.225.153> has joined #haiku[09:54:59] *** pixdamix <pixdamix!~pix@unaffiliated/pixdamix> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[09:55:18] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.143.123> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:01:21] *** vjacob__ <vjacob__!~vjacob@82.103.128.159> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:01:22] *** daniele_athome <daniele_athome!~daniele_a@net-2-38-1-98.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #haiku[10:02:28] *** arroyoc <arroyoc!~Thunderbi@46.136.225.153> has quit IRC (Quit: arroyoc)[10:04:26] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:06:21] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson opened pull request #618: libpng: tune CONFLICTS_devel; cosmetic changes. - https://git.io/vrHEJ[10:24:41] *** vdamewood <vdamewood!~vdamewood@unaffiliated/vdamewood> has joined #haiku[10:36:40] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson synchronize pull request #618: libpng: tune CONFLICTS_devel; cosmetic changes. - https://git.io/vrHEJ[10:38:08] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.128.155> has joined #haiku[10:39:09] <vjacob> back to haiku-nightly-hrev49662-x86_gcc2_hybrid-raw, it boots, no issues, and all is well... now what about WiFi...[10:42:06] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson synchronize pull request #618: libpng: tune CONFLICTS_devel; cosmetic changes. - https://git.io/vrHEJ[10:48:18] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson edited pull request #618: libpng: tune CONFLICTS_devel; cosmetic changes. - https://git.io/vrHEJ[10:58:24] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.128.155> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:07:07] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.128.155> has joined #haiku[11:11:03] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@host-92-10-192-224.as43234.net> has joined #haiku[11:16:26] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!~vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:17:03] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!~vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[11:20:47] <vjacob> hi. any ideas how to trouble shoot a WiFi not giving me working Internet (ping fails), even though WPA2 authentication seems to finish?[11:21:33] <vjacob> haiku-nightly-hrev49662-x86_gcc2_hybrid-raw, RALink RT2790 80.11n, Asus EEE PC 1000H[11:22:37] <vjacob> it says "Connecting" for a long while, and sometimes... it then switches to "Ready", but ifconfig tells me that it is a a 169.254.0.114 IP address... (the vendor id is 0x1814, device id 0x781)[11:22:45] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db445ac.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[11:22:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[11:27:03] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db445ac.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[11:28:21] *** ppisati_ is now known as ppisati[11:30:01] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[11:34:52] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[11:42:41] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.128.155> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:52:28] *** cucujoidea <cucujoidea!b2076518@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.7.101.24> has joined #haiku[11:52:50] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:59:21] <tojoko> could somebody tell vjacob the next time he shows up that it's impossible for us to help him if he always vanishs if his questions aren't answered immiadetly, please.[12:05:58] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@host-92-10-192-224.as43234.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:16:37] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.128.155> has joined #haiku[12:43:16] <tojoko> hi vjacob[12:43:35] <vjacob> hi tojoko[12:43:46] <tojoko> we can't help u, if u vanish just after u asked a question. that's not a hotline here. :)[12:43:57] <vjacob> it wasn't intentionally[12:49:00] <tojoko> u know of https://dev.haiku-os.org/search?q=eee&noquickjump=1&milestone=on&ticket=on&wiki=on[12:49:53] *** Megaf <Megaf!~Megaf@unaffiliated/megaf> has joined #haiku[12:50:25] <tojoko> or https://www.haiku-os.org/search/node/1000h - so, it normaly should work. ;)[12:51:24] <tojoko> but i would post an log to dev.haiku-os.org.[12:59:01] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.128.155> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[13:01:50] <tojoko> is there libqt4 for haiku?[13:03:00] <tojoko> nope, i guess.[13:03:31] <tojoko> PulkoMandy?[13:06:26] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:df50:c0:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has joined #haiku[13:11:06] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[13:11:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[13:18:02] *** apl <apl!~apl@121.98.96.169> has joined #haiku[13:20:57] <apl> Hello; I see that BUrl's method Host() returns the host and the port of the URL. This seems a bit strange. Does anybody know if that is by design?[13:24:41] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:26:30] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.128.218> has joined #haiku[13:32:28] *** vjacob2 <vjacob2!~vjacob@82.103.128.217> has joined #haiku[13:32:56] <vjacob2> tojoko, thanks, I looked at it, it looks like something similar to https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/11607[13:33:10] <vjacob2> (dhcp client process somehow still not fixed)[13:33:27] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.128.218> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[13:35:24] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-092-252-057-023.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[13:35:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[13:40:21] *** vjacob2 <vjacob2!~vjacob@82.103.128.217> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:55:20] *** pixdamix <pixdamix!~pix@unaffiliated/pixdamix> has joined #haiku[14:08:48] *** vdamewood <vdamewood!~vdamewood@unaffiliated/vdamewood> has quit IRC (Quit: Life beckons.)[14:11:34] *** vdamewood <vdamewood!~vdamewood@unaffiliated/vdamewood> has joined #haiku[14:13:09] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@host-92-10-192-224.as43234.net> has joined #haiku[14:19:26] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.128.155> has joined #haiku[14:20:49] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-ryrsqssgycehakgp> has joined #haiku[14:23:53] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.128.155> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:24:15] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.128.155> has joined #haiku[14:29:44] <Begasus> tojoko .. did you check haikuports for QT? iirc there has been some work and some apps already running on Haiku[14:34:00] <tojoko> year, i guess it's available, i'm just not sure if it's the right version and if I'm in a mood to start any source code portation adeventure.[14:35:30] <Begasus> k, haven't looked into QT (way out for me), but I thought it was available (maybe just not as a part of the official Haiku repo) (yet*) ;)[14:35:31] <vjacob> is there a homepage/status page for a mode modern browser port (firefox, khtml, etc.) port?[14:35:54] <Begasus> vjacob ... are you in Haiku?[14:36:14] <Begasus> if so "pkgman install qupzilla*"[14:36:22] <vjacob> huh? Yes I am asking about Haiku[14:36:29] <vjacob> aah, okay, thanks...[14:38:10] <Begasus> or through HaikuDepot, that should work also :)[14:40:12] <vjacob> how does it compare with firefox or chrome, begasus?[14:40:17] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.128.155> has left #haiku ("Leaving")[14:40:24] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.128.155> has joined #haiku[14:41:48] <Begasus> it's pretty stable here, I use it when running Haiku most of the time, Net+ is still a bit buggy (crashed on my with the latest updates)[14:42:40] *** Anarchos <Anarchos!~K@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[14:43:09] <vjacob> wait, Net+ is still being actively developed?[14:43:41] <Begasus> yep[14:44:02] <vjacob> you don[14:44:20] <vjacob> dont say... I thought there was only Net++ and WebPositive...[14:44:28] <Begasus> well it's Web+ now[14:44:45] <Begasus> mb ...[14:46:50] <vjacob> what about NetSurf_[14:47:01] <vjacob> they just released 3.5 on April 14?[14:47:23] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~Paradoxon@dslb-088-074-108-249.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[14:47:27] <vjacob> Ah... :D their last release for Haiku was 25 Apr 2009[14:47:49] <Begasus> don't know, I think PulkoMandy does most of the stuff for web+[14:48:05] <Anarchos> hi everybody[14:49:02] <Begasus> hi Anarchos[14:49:32] * Anarchos has lots of time to develop now[14:49:43] <Begasus> ow? how come?[14:49:45] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:53:32] <Anarchos> Begasus wife left with kids...[14:53:51] <Begasus> ouch, sorry to hear Anarchos :/[14:53:59] <Anarchos> Begasus thx[14:54:36] <Begasus> hope you atleast get to see the kids[14:55:52] <Begasus> bugger ... even Web+ and Qupzilla refuse to work on me :/ (for wetransfer)[14:56:12] *** ii-v <ii-v!~Thunderbi@h161n2-vb-v-d1.ias.bredband.telia.com> has joined #haiku[14:56:39] <Anarchos> Begasus yes do not worry.[14:57:13] <Begasus> ok (y)[14:57:50] <vjacob> I would not mind using my netbook to do sparetime code editing/review on various projects, but having access to a modern Web-browser is somewhat of a minimum...[14:58:21] <Anarchos> i have to setup my old Pentium4 desktop to boot from network, in order to develop on my laptop, and to test on this Pentium[14:59:01] <tojoko> Anarchos, i have or i had? since network bootin' isn't supported anymore due to jessicah.[14:59:15] <Begasus> still have an old tower standing beside of me, no screen attached to it anymore or anything, working from the laptops :)[15:00:35] <Anarchos> tojoko i have to. I am tired to use USB key every 5 minutes to transfer an image[15:03:14] <tojoko> Anarchos, i can understand that.[15:03:56] <Anarchos> tojoko what did jessicah do to hte netboot ?[15:06:42] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@host-92-10-192-224.as43234.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:09:05] <tojoko> Anarchos, don't know, she just said the support had been discontinued. here in the chat. search the logs ..[15:09:30] <Anarchos> ok ok[15:20:31] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[15:21:18] *** Akuji <Akuji!~akuji@dslb-094-223-020-076.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[15:23:40] <jessicah> I just said it was broken[15:24:23] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db445ac.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[15:24:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[15:24:46] <Anarchos> jessicah hello jessicah[15:24:48] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:df50:c0:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:25:23] <jessicah> hihi[15:26:39] *** xcor <xcor!~xcor@2a02:c7d:c07:7f00:8c68:bf97:5550:81ca> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[15:27:27] *** leer10 <leer10!~leer10@96-41-185-203.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[15:28:53] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db445ac.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[15:28:57] *** xcor <xcor!~xcor@2a02:c7d:c07:7f00:8893:fcb7:2316:f304> has joined #haiku[15:34:27] <Not-b880> [haikuports] Begasus opened pull request #619: scummvm 1.8.1 new recipe - https://git.io/vrHPS[15:37:28] *** Akuji <Akuji!~akuji@dslb-094-223-020-076.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:44:41] *** ii-v <ii-v!~Thunderbi@h161n2-vb-v-d1.ias.bredband.telia.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:44:43] *** cucujoidea <cucujoidea!b2076518@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.7.101.24> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[15:44:58] *** ii-v <ii-v!~Thunderbi@h161n2-vb-v-d1.ias.bredband.telia.com> has joined #haiku[15:48:01] *** Anarchos <Anarchos!~K@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: gardening time)[16:06:34] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~Paradoxon@dslb-088-074-108-249.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[16:07:16] <vjacob> has any kind of feature been proposed to auto-submit kernel problems, as well as bug reports from apps?[16:07:40] * vjacob gets very nostalgic when the standard Haiku crash dialog shows, but still...[16:07:57] <Begasus> there should be a bug tracker (maybe look at the site for more info)?[16:08:04] <Begasus> ;)[16:08:07] <vjacob> not asking about a bug tracker...[16:08:17] <vjacob> but about a feature in the operating system[16:08:29] <vjacob> a little bit like what happens on Mac OS X, or when you use Chrome or Firefox and it crashes[16:08:39] <Begasus> syslog?[16:08:46] <vjacob> nah[16:09:15] <vjacob> I am talking about automatic bug submit[16:09:19] <Begasus> maybe try running it from Terminal ... maybe you'll get some output there?[16:09:22] <vjacob> this might allow better focus on where the issues are happening[16:09:26] <Begasus> ah k, don't know then ;)[16:20:58] <vjacob> it does not seem like there is something like this being discussed...[16:21:39] <vjacob> catch you all later[16:21:41] *** vjacob <vjacob!~vjacob@82.103.128.155> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:29:54] *** Akuji <Akuji!~akuji@dslb-094-223-020-076.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[16:31:03] *** apl <apl!~apl@121.98.96.169> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:44:38] *** vdamewood <vdamewood!~vdamewood@unaffiliated/vdamewood> has quit IRC (Quit: Life beckons.)[16:46:14] <tojoko> Begasus, he seems quite, aeh ...[16:48:59] <Begasus> ;)[16:49:17] <Begasus> seen them comming and going over the years ;)[16:49:26] <tojoko> the developert of multibootusb has answered to my email and wrote me that he would "look into it" ;) (supportin' haiku one day).[16:49:27] <tojoko> lol[16:50:13] <tojoko> let me itroduce to u http://alternativeto.net/software/multibootusb/ ;)[16:52:52] <Begasus> doing multi boot with grub atm, works fine for me ;)[16:56:15] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-092-252-057-023.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[16:58:28] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-092-252-100-067.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #haiku[16:58:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[17:05:53] *** hmstrmn <hmstrmn!~hmstrmn@198.134.125.78> has joined #haiku[17:08:50] *** Akuji <Akuji!~akuji@dslb-094-223-020-076.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:13:28] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d858167.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[17:13:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[17:13:40] *** Fishpond <Fishpond!~quassel@ipservice-092-217-002-246.092.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[17:15:01] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has joined #haiku[17:18:22] *** Fishpond <Fishpond!~quassel@ipservice-092-217-002-246.092.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:24:33] <Not-b880> [haikuports] Begasus synchronize pull request #619: scummvm 1.8.1 new recipe - https://git.io/vrHPS[17:24:42] *** ii-v <ii-v!~Thunderbi@h161n2-vb-v-d1.ias.bredband.telia.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:24:59] *** ii-v <ii-v!~Thunderbi@h161n2-vb-v-d1.ias.bredband.telia.com> has joined #haiku[17:25:07] <Not-b880> [haikuports] Begasus synchronize pull request #619: scummvm 1.8.1 new recipe - https://git.io/vrHPS[17:30:45] <Not-b880> [haikuporter] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±3] https://git.io/vrHSI[17:30:47] <Not-b880> [haikuporter] humdingerb ee1ab8d - Small additions to the 'generic' templates[17:32:57] *** Akuji <Akuji!~akuji@dslb-094-223-020-076.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[17:37:49] * IIsi50MHz returns to trying to find out why WebPositive and BeZilla are dumping HTML as text insteadof rendering[17:38:06] <tojoko> Begasus, nothin' about grub (btw. do u use grub or grub for windows), it's just if u want to find out which boot fails i wrote the developer, i'd be a great thing to boot 20 different nightlys from a single stick.[17:38:54] <Begasus> grub2 from ubuntu tojoko :) (only booting Win Linux and Haiku)[17:39:15] <IIsi50MHz> At least I got network apps working again, by merely replacing OpenSSL packages that pkgman hadn't updated. (-:[17:41:12] <tojoko> does that mean, anybody can contribute to the haiku os sourcecode? I'd love to try my skills as an developer.[17:41:49] <Begasus> everytime it does "CDPATH="${ZSH_VERSION+.}:" && cd . && /bin/sh /sources/t4k_common-0.1.1/missing --run autoconf" it fails on checking for -lm :/[17:45:10] *** Negr0 <Negr0!~NegrO@2a02:908:df50:c0:16da:e9ff:fe69:b4f1> has joined #haiku[17:48:48] *** Anarchos <Anarchos!~K@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has joined #haiku[17:49:16] *** cc^mint <cc^mint!~Cybertron@p5081973D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[17:50:11] *** cc^mint <cc^mint!~Cybertron@p5081973D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:51:58] *** cc^mint <cc^mint!~Cybertron@p5081973D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[17:53:37] <Not-b880> [haikuports] Begasus synchronize pull request #619: scummvm 1.8.1 new recipe - https://git.io/vrHPS[17:53:57] <Not-b880> [haikuports] Begasus synchronize pull request #619: scummvm 1.8.1 new recipe - https://git.io/vrHPS[17:54:03] <Begasus> style cleaning ;)[17:55:33] <humdinger> My usual PSA:[17:55:37] <humdinger> I'll be releasing a bugfix release of Clipdinger soon. Anyone who wants to contribute a localization?[17:55:37] <humdinger> see: https://www.haiku-os.org/community/forum/catkeys_translators_needed_3rd_party_apps[17:55:38] <humdinger> For the other apps listed there, too, of course... :)[18:04:48] <Begasus> humdinger ... can't seem to load the catkey in the app it seems?[18:05:39] <humdinger> you mean the catkeyseditor?[18:05:42] <Begasus> yep[18:05:57] <Begasus> seems it doawnloaded the file as an html file ...[18:06:28] * IIsi50MHz tries Haiku on Toshiba Satellite L775, gets black screen after Rocket icon (even with safe mode video)[18:06:54] <Begasus> k ... got it now (copied the raw text)[18:07:14] <humdinger> Begasus: if you follow the link of a "en" file, it should lead you to the file on github.[18:07:16] <humdinger> ok. :)[18:07:25] <humdinger> need to click "RAW"[18:07:32] <IIsi50MHz> Hmm, on the Vaio B100B, if the screen became black during boot, I could do a safe shutdown by pressing the power button.[18:07:52] <IIsi50MHz> Satellite L775 seems to lockup.[18:07:57] <humdinger> hmm. mabe I should change all the links to point to the raw directl...[18:10:23] <IIsi50MHz> I'd try to translate, but I don't think partly forgotten Japanese and mostly forgotten French will help.[18:10:34] <Begasus> maybe, that way if you rightclick the link you could download the raw file ;)[18:14:30] <humdinger> done. thanks for the headsup[18:15:07] * humdinger is idle: dinner[18:29:09] *** hmstrmn <hmstrmn!~hmstrmn@198.134.125.78> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[18:33:45] <humdinger> IIsi50MHz: maybe it will. a ludicrous translation may annoy a native enough to supply an improved version. :)[18:33:48] * humdinger has returned[18:33:56] <IIsi50MHz> ha![18:34:19] <Not-b880> [haikuports] Begasus synchronize pull request #619: scummvm 1.8.1 new recipe - https://git.io/vrHPS[18:34:42] <Not-b880> [haikuports] Begasus synchronize pull request #619: scummvm 1.8.1 new recipe - https://git.io/vrHPS[18:40:02] <Begasus> sorry ... still some style changes ;)[18:43:23] <Begasus> one thing for doing a check on scummvm with haikuporter is that it can take some time ...[18:44:23] *** Nothing_Much <Nothing_Much!~nothing_m@unaffiliated/nothing-much/x-2931824> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:51:51] <humdinger> Begasus: wrt TEST(): that's the function that will be run on the built binaries when doing a "haikuporter --test"[18:52:31] <humdinger> Try "inrecipe TEST\(" for the example in the tree[18:52:41] <humdinger> examples, even[18:52:49] <Begasus> shouldn't that be taken care of when using the -S option (to make sure it's ok)?[18:53:16] <humdinger> not sure if -S includes --test...[18:53:23] <Begasus> scummvm running atm, so can't run anything else usufull atm ;)[18:53:51] <humdinger> in any case, if there were no TEST() in the recipe, it can't be tested. Either with --test, nor -S :)[18:53:53] <Begasus> haven't seen it before ... ps, thanks for updating the generic files :)[18:54:09] <humdinger> thanks for pointing it out :)[18:54:25] <Begasus> trying to build it now with the test()[18:56:39] <Begasus> ps, would it be a good idea to leave the test() in the recipe even after it has build ok localy?[18:56:52] <humdinger> yes, of course.[18:56:56] <Begasus> ok :)[18:57:05] <humdinger> later the buildbots will check those automatically.[18:57:06] <Begasus> something to remember then ;)[18:57:38] <humdinger> that way the buildbots (in the best case) can not only see that a package builds witout error, but that it works as intended.[18:59:52] <Begasus> does it also give any pointers on where it could fail? (in case you need to track it down)[19:00:44] <humdinger> not sure. I guess the TEST function could echo the specifics that'll then show up in the buildlog?[19:01:21] <Begasus> ow bugger ... build-prerequires "cmd:libtoolize_x86" of package "scummvm_x86-1.8.1" could not be resolved ;)[19:01:31] <Begasus> installed btw now[19:01:40] <humdinger> I never encountered a TEST() myself, aside from youtube-dl, which simply runs youtube-dl --version. if the version appears, it runs... :)[19:02:37] <Begasus> ah k[19:04:52] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@79.138.131.204.mobile.tre.se> has joined #haiku[19:04:52] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[19:06:38] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-14-137-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #haiku[19:07:17] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@host-92-10-192-224.as43234.net> has joined #haiku[19:08:08] <Begasus> name scummvm_x86[19:08:08] <Begasus> version 1.8.1-1[19:08:09] <Begasus> architecture x86_gcc2[19:08:21] <Begasus> is this what we would expect humdinger?[19:09:52] <humdinger> Begasus: I think so, if you built under a gcc2hybrid.[19:10:30] <Begasus> yep[19:10:46] <humdinger> it is the x86 version, but only as 2nd arch in a gcc2hybrid system.[19:11:03] <humdinger> If you'd built under a x86 Haiku, it'd sa "x86"[19:11:14] <humdinger> at least I think so...[19:11:19] <Begasus> ok, sound reasonable[19:11:47] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@host-92-10-192-224.as43234.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:16:10] *** olaHughson is now known as Ola89[19:17:03] <Begasus> k, doing a full build for scummvm for the release on their site ... bbl[19:17:55] *** Begasus is now known as Begas_afk[19:23:42] *** humdinger <humdinger!~humdinger@x5d858167.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: Oi, with the poodles already!)[19:25:59] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db445ac.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[19:25:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[19:30:27] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db445ac.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[19:36:18] <tojoko> IIsi50MHz: can't u provide any further information or save the syslog on any usb memtstick?[19:37:07] <IIsi50MHz> On which issue?[19:37:50] <tojoko> Satellite L775[19:38:00] <tojoko> black screen[19:38:03] <IIsi50MHz> Ah[19:38:24] *** Megaf <Megaf!~Megaf@unaffiliated/megaf> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:39:47] <tojoko> IIsi50MHz: it could be the wifi, try hrev48309 please.[19:40:40] <tojoko> yep, it most likely is the atheros wifi. at least, although.[19:40:48] *** kushalsingh007 <kushalsingh007!Kushal@nat/iiit/x-ryrsqssgycehakgp> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)[19:43:45] *** JohnX- <JohnX-!john@2600:3c01::f03c:91ff:fe50:3ac4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:44:03] *** JohnX <JohnX!~john@li519-41.members.linode.com> has joined #haiku[19:47:07] *** Anarchos <Anarchos!~K@35.58.135.77.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[19:50:38] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-14-137-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:51:03] <IIsi50MHz> Wellll, trying to boot the Vaio so I can look for a log on the USB stick that was in the SL775, but it's being recalcitrant.[19:51:35] <IIsi50MHz> Usually, the Vaio boots Haiku perfectly, but sometimes it just gives black screen after the Rocket icon.[19:51:56] <IIsi50MHz> Usually, one reboot will fix the Vaio. But not today.[19:54:26] * cc^mint spielt O alte Burschenherrlichkeit.[19:55:15] <IIsi50MHz> That whole line looks like the name of a delicious candy bar, to me.[19:55:33] <IIsi50MHz> Yey, B100B running.[19:57:04] <IIsi50MHz> Right, now I'm looking at the syslog from Satelite L775.[19:57:39] <tojoko> IIsi50MHz: a) have u tried hrev48309 ? it would ease things a lot, i guess.[19:58:08] <tojoko> b) you don't need to fully boot haiku to get the syslog, didn't u know that? ;)[19:59:14] <tojoko> c) just have a look in the syslog, go slowly down - any repeats? from the end go up one page, what was loaded last? that's what i would do. besides trying hrev48309 ;)[20:01:16] <IIsi50MHz> The L775 is applying many Windows 10 updates, so I thought it would be easier to boot the Vaio B100B (hrev49180) and insert the USB hrev50336 that had tried in the L775.[20:01:40] <IIsi50MHz> (but then the B100B decided to require 15+ attempts to boot)[20:02:30] <tojoko> hehe.[20:03:00] <tojoko> but u know, just boot, hit space, safemode and then check -> safe log. but only works directly after a reboot.[20:09:09] <IIsi50MHz> Hmm, syslog seems to only refer to events from the last time I booted my desktop with this USB.[20:10:00] * IIsi50MHz opens syslog.old out of curiosity[20:13:05] <IIsi50MHz> O.[20:13:18] <IIsi50MHz> Timestamp on the logs are from yesterday.[20:13:30] <IIsi50MHz> So no log from the L775.[20:14:08] <tojoko> IIsi50MHz, then please either a) boot with hrev48309 or b) boot the l775 again, try to reset it(not turnin' off) and hit space while bootin' again.[20:14:37] <IIsi50MHz> Can't reset it. It locks up completely. The only way out is to force power off.[20:14:56] <IIsi50MHz> Guess I'll need hrev48309.[20:16:38] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~Paradoxon@dslb-088-074-108-249.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[20:17:13] <IIsi50MHz> But first, I'll go back to trying to find out why WebPositive in both hrev49180 and hrev50336 dumps HTML as plain text.[20:22:51] * cc^mint spielt Gaudeamus igitur.[20:25:15] *** rpcope <rpcope!~rpcope@162.245.217.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[20:26:06] *** rpcope <rpcope!~rpcope@162.245.217.4> has joined #haiku[20:31:57] *** dorje <dorje!~vision@99-27-56-171.lightspeed.oshkwi.sbcglobal.net> has joined #haiku[20:32:51] <dorje> If I have a controller with a MessageReceived hook, and then I switch depending on BMessage->what, how does the app know which controller to target?[20:37:07] <dorje> maybe "controller" isn't the right word[20:42:27] *** dh64 <dh64!~dh64@174-21-66-90.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:43:03] <dorje> but still, if I dispatch a message I use *target & *message, but what knows how to target? should I just use one BApplication as my means of being a "controller" and handle all the BMessages within that? I'm looking for how do I nest "controllers" ?[20:49:38] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e36aac7.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[20:58:46] <tojoko> IIsi50MHz, let us know when u succeded, pl.[21:01:58] *** Fishpond <Fishpond!~quassel@ipservice-092-217-002-246.092.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[21:03:41] *** Akuji <Akuji!~akuji@dslb-094-223-020-076.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:04:46] <Paradoxon> dorje i guess you are searching for BMessenger[21:04:52] <dorje> ok[21:04:57] <dorje> I read about that[21:05:17] <Paradoxon> normally you can set for a object wich sends a BMessenger[21:05:34] <dorje> so dispatch-message[21:06:06] <Paradoxon> it then gets dispatched to the target you specify in this messenger[21:06:16] <Paradoxon> wich is either a BHandler or a BLooper[21:06:21] <dorje> what i'm looking for is both <who> in the system knows about message target, but then can a view be a message handler too?[21:06:32] <Paradoxon> other way around if you are already in a MessageRecived Function[21:06:42] <Paradoxon> its your turn to hand it over to the right class[21:07:34] <Paradoxon> thats why you normally have in the MessageRecived Function something like[21:07:34] <Paradoxon> default:[21:07:35] <Paradoxon> baseClass::MessageReceived(message);[21:07:36] <Paradoxon> break;[21:07:36] <Paradoxon> ...[21:07:36] <Paradoxon> }[21:07:39] <Paradoxon> :-D[21:07:47] <dorje> oh ok[21:08:06] <dorje> so I guess a BView has a MessageRecieved() too[21:08:06] *** Megaf <Megaf!~Megaf@unaffiliated/megaf> has joined #haiku[21:08:11] <Paradoxon> shure[21:08:24] <Paradoxon> every BView, every BWindow and every BApplication :-D[21:08:31] <dorje> so as far as the target of the message, does each view have a unique identifier or something?[21:08:34] <Paradoxon> there are nice examples from Be Inc. about this[21:08:41] <Paradoxon> in the samlecode from them[21:08:41] <dorje> i love be[21:08:52] <Paradoxon> do you have the Be Sampelcodes?[21:08:55] <dorje> nope[21:09:02] <dorje> i'm just reading the bebook[21:09:25] <Paradoxon> its on besahre :)[21:09:44] <dorje> is beshare something i can download?[21:09:57] <dorje> i didn't see it in the depot[21:10:12] <dorje> oh there it is[21:10:55] <Paradoxon> :-D[21:11:09] <Paradoxon> it devently needs to bekome a package :-D[21:11:32] <dorje> now that's quality[21:12:26] <Paradoxon> ???[21:13:12] *** happy-dude <happy-dude!uid62780@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ijpyrtvdfqodphvm> has joined #haiku[21:13:19] <dorje> nothing...[21:13:45] *** Akuji <Akuji!~akuji@dslb-094-223-020-076.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[21:15:29] <dorje> ohhh, so the target is a pointer to a known variable in the system, not something I would have to look up[21:15:58] *** apl <apl!~apl@121.98.96.169> has joined #haiku[21:16:33] <Paradoxon> not really[21:17:03] <Paradoxon> or i understod your statement wrong[21:17:25] <Paradoxon> the "Target" needs to be a BHanlder or a BLooper Class[21:17:51] <Paradoxon> since BViews are derived from Handlers and Bwindows and BApplications from BLooper[21:18:12] <Paradoxon> you can create Messengers with a Pointer to your view[21:18:17] <Paradoxon> or window or app[21:18:29] <Paradoxon> so the Message gets sent directly to there[21:18:58] <Paradoxon> of cours you need to pass or set the Messenger for the Object wich sends the BMessag[21:19:15] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[21:19:15] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[21:19:43] <Paradoxon> so in pseudocode (i dont have time to look it up)[21:19:49] <Paradoxon> it would look something like[21:20:24] <Paradoxon> BView *iWantToGetTheMessage = new BView()[21:20:44] <Paradoxon> BMessenger *myMessenger = new BMessenger(iWantToGetTheMessage);[21:20:54] <Paradoxon> then you create you Button[21:21:26] <Paradoxon> BButton *button = new BButton ("hi i want to send a Message", BMessage('bla'))[21:21:35] <Paradoxon> button->SetTarget(iWantToGetTheMessage);[21:21:44] <Paradoxon> something like this..[21:22:49] <dorje> ok[21:22:52] <dorje> i understand[21:23:08] <dorje> so target is a BLooper derived instance[21:23:33] <Paradoxon> exactly or from a BHandler derived class[21:23:40] <dorje> that's kind of not like controllers at all[21:23:47] <dorje> but i get it[21:23:57] <dorje> so I think I have what I need atm[21:24:14] <dorje> thanks Paradoxon[21:24:56] *** Fishpond <Fishpond!~quassel@ipservice-092-217-002-246.092.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:24:57] *** apl <apl!~apl@121.98.96.169> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[21:25:57] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e36aac7.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:26:12] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e36aac7.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[21:29:19] *** apl <apl!~apl@121.98.96.169> has joined #haiku[21:31:25] *** mmu_man <mmu_man!~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #haiku[21:31:56] <Paradoxon> :-D[21:32:03] <Paradoxon> ok i need to go[21:32:06] <Paradoxon> cu :-D[21:32:11] <IIsi50MHz> ttfn[21:32:21] *** Paradoxon <Paradoxon!~Paradoxon@dslb-088-074-108-249.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[21:37:50] *** dorje <dorje!~vision@99-27-56-171.lightspeed.oshkwi.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[21:38:47] <IIsi50MHz> Failsafe video + safemode + disable user addons = boot (Toshiba Satellite L775)[21:39:03] <IIsi50MHz> Now to see what I can turn back on...[21:39:48] *** apl <apl!~apl@121.98.96.169> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[21:41:08] <tojoko> ok[21:44:20] *** Lelldorin1 <Lelldorin1!~lelldorin@x4e36aac7.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[21:44:55] <IIsi50MHz> failsafe video seems to be enough?[21:47:40] <IIsi50MHz> I thought I tried that before, but all I really did was select a resolution from the list. Had to actually choose failsafe elsewhere.[21:47:48] <IIsi50MHz> Wifi works![21:49:41] *** ii-v <ii-v!~Thunderbi@h161n2-vb-v-d1.ias.bredband.telia.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:49:42] <tojoko> haha - well, great. wonder why i have such problems. but i've got a different athero, probably the same driver but a different model.[21:50:46] <tojoko> i might should try again too.[21:51:07] <IIsi50MHz> Of course, now I need enable widescreen video somehow. It's all stretched![21:55:55] *** kolton <kolton!~tonyc@p5B150115.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #haiku[21:58:04] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonyc@p5B1508AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[21:59:06] <kolton> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/buy-ubuntu-16-04-usb-official[21:59:44] *** PasNox <PasNox!~pasnox@2a01:e34:ee42:d070:41f:354f:7bd6:bfb> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving - Cross platform IDE http://monkeystudio.org)[22:00:39] <IIsi50MHz> Hrm, no Radeon drivers in HaikuDepot.[22:01:07] * IIsi50MHz tries to remember how to set a custom video mode[22:03:30] <IIsi50MHz> Wow, this feels slowr than the B100B.[22:03:33] <IIsi50MHz> +e[22:04:33] <IIsi50MHz> Feels more like a Raspberry Pi 1 B running Raspian.[22:05:43] *** MrSunshine <MrSunshine!~mrsun@81-225-14-137-no168.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #haiku[22:06:47] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[22:07:13] <kolton> IIsi50MHz, rofl[22:07:52] <IIsi50MHz> AMD A4 for the lose[22:11:34] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@host-92-10-192-224.as43234.net> has joined #haiku[22:19:08] *** Begas_afk <Begas_afk!~Begas_@d54c3d303.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-20140108]: i've been blurred!)[22:20:31] <IIsi50MHz> tojoko: agh! Unhandled page fault.[22:20:47] <IIsi50MHz> In "daemon".[22:29:02] *** gouchi <gouchi!~gouchi@ivr94-8-88-162-27-162.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte)[22:31:59] *** tqh <tqh!~frho@79.138.131.204.mobile.tre.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Lämnar)[22:40:20] *** Akuji <Akuji!~akuji@dslb-094-223-020-076.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:40:26] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@host-92-10-192-224.as43234.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:41:41] *** return0e <return0e!~return0e@adsl-178-78-78-159.karoo.kcom.com> has joined #haiku[22:42:17] *** jjido <jjido!~jjido@host-92-10-192-224.as43234.net> has joined #haiku[22:43:02] *** Paianni <Paianni!~sailfish@cpc16-heme9-2-0-cust232.9-1.cable.virginm.net> has joined #haiku[22:43:45] *** axeld <axeld!~Thunderbi@dyndsl-092-252-100-067.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: axeld)[22:43:47] <kolton> IIsi50MHz, scroll up, the mess probably started earlier.[22:44:08] *** kolton is now known as tojoko[23:06:52] <IIsi50MHz> Looked up specs. The A4-3300M has similar single-thread peformance to the Pentium M 755 2.0 GHz, just twice as many cores.[23:07:26] <IIsi50MHz> But the Vaio B100B with the Pentium M 755 is more responsive, with Haiku.[23:16:30] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!~vision@68.118.40.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:17:05] *** Ptrus <Ptrus!~vision@68.118.40.186> has joined #haiku[23:17:54] *** happy-dude <happy-dude!uid62780@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ijpyrtvdfqodphvm> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[23:18:21] *** [JJ]Albert <[JJ]Albert!~Albert@2602:306:3477:b800:c55b:7f75:8e93:1ae0> has joined #haiku[23:23:29] <tojoko> well, pentium m such - unless u got haiku.[23:24:27] <IIsi50MHz> A4-3300M with Windows 7 or Windows 10 or Haiku...just glacial.[23:25:11] *** ACGuy <ACGuy!vision@85.137.162.237.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #haiku[23:25:13] <IIsi50MHz> Twice as many hamsters, but the second one just sits on his rump and eats all day.[23:25:19] <ACGuy> Hello[23:25:26] <IIsi50MHz> Hei[23:25:27] *** apl <apl!~apl@121.98.96.169> has joined #haiku[23:25:39] <IIsi50MHz> Armour Class, or Air Conditioning? Or Alternating Current?[23:26:05] <ACGuy> Animal Crossing, actually xD[23:26:21] <IIsi50MHz> Puffin, Pelican, or Zebra?[23:26:33] <ACGuy> Was there a Mac IIsi at 50 mhz?[23:26:47] <ACGuy> Oh, no, it's a Nintendo GameCube Game[23:27:08] <IIsi50MHz> Designed for 25 MHz, shipped at 20 to preserve sales of a higher model; clock-doubled upgrade cards were common.[23:27:34] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db445ac.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #haiku[23:27:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[23:29:52] <IIsi50MHz> Mine was a Daystar 030 Universal PowerCache in the PDS[23:30:34] <ACGuy> Hm, that explains it then[23:31:12] <ACGuy> Btw, is it possible to revert a Haiku nightly upgrade?[23:31:25] <IIsi50MHz> Theoretically, yes.[23:31:36] <ACGuy> How?[23:31:57] <IIsi50MHz> Boot to the safemode menu using Space, then navigate to the section that lets you choose prior dates.[23:31:59] <ACGuy> I know you can select the previous state of the system from the Haiku boot loader[23:32:15] <ACGuy> Yeah! But that has to be done on each boot[23:32:21] *** stippi <stippi!~stippi@x4db445ac.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[23:33:02] <IIsi50MHz> But once booted, you can monkey with the rest, right? (-;[23:33:14] <IIsi50MHz> I had a problem yesterday, actually.[23:33:30] <IIsi50MHz> pkgman updated everything except two of the OpenSSL packages.[23:33:40] <IIsi50MHz> So everything that used SSL broke.[23:33:59] <ACGuy> Not too sure about that[23:34:01] <IIsi50MHz> But I copied the newer packages from an ISO, deleted the old ones, and rebooted.[23:34:11] <IIsi50MHz> All good.[23:34:22] <ACGuy> I have to computers with Haiku installed[23:34:37] <ACGuy> And one of them has an Intel Extreme graphics chipset[23:34:41] <IIsi50MHz> I have one installed, and one on USB.[23:34:43] <IIsi50MHz> Ah.[23:35:00] <ACGuy> And since I updated a few days ago, I can't get it to display a thing[23:35:17] <ACGuy> Not even booting from a previous update, which is weird[23:35:18] <tojoko> good n8[23:35:25] <IIsi50MHz> Even when you turn on safemode graphics?[23:35:27] <ACGuy> Bye![23:35:48] <IIsi50MHz> later[23:36:10] <ACGuy> I didn't try that, mainly because I was focused on getting it back to a previous nightly... xD[23:36:25] <ACGuy> Maybe that'd do it by now[23:36:36] <ACGuy> Until they get the new drivers[23:37:33] <ACGuy> It's like lately all the BeOS/Haiku stuff doesn't want to work properly for me[23:39:41] *** tojoko <tojoko!~tonyc@p5B150115.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[23:40:48] *** Akuji <Akuji!~akuji@dslb-094-223-020-076.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #haiku[23:41:11] *** dh64 <dh64!~dh64@174-21-66-90.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #haiku[23:45:21] *** Akuji <Akuji!~akuji@dslb-094-223-020-076.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[23:47:36] *** Barrett <Barrett!~barrett@unaffiliated/barrett> has joined #haiku[23:47:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[23:55:56] *** apl <apl!~apl@121.98.96.169> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[23:57:56] *** illwieckz <illwieckz!~illwieckz@unvanquished/developer/illwieckz> has joined #haiku[23:59:18] *** rennj <rennj!~rennj@host-69-146-167-35.static.bresnan.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)