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[00:07:56] <tojoko> why do i get a warning if i use chart instead of int?
[00:09:38] <tojoko> thx, got it.
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[00:15:02] <Barrett> be careful with casts
[00:17:48] <tojoko> nope, didn't want to cast, wanted to count. but char ain't recommanded for that. What a pitty.
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[00:27:06] <Barrett> tojoko, technically a char on 32 bit can contain up to 2^8 values :-)
[00:27:14] <Barrett> so not the ideal to count things
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[00:30:35] <stpere> hi!
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[00:31:15] <Barrett> hi stpere
[00:40:45] <tojoko> Barrett, i thought it might be space savin', i just wanted to count arguemtns on bash.
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[00:53:07] <tojoko> anybody can tell me how to format c code under haiku nicely (strg + a, strg + f or so).
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<Not-b880> [haikuports] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://git.io/vrXgW
[01:36:56] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson c73ec1c - make: add recipe for 4.2, add TEST(), switch to mirror. (#609)
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[01:37:50] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson 4b0e757 - file: bump to 5.27, move the magic file to a common sub-package. (#611)
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<Not-b880> [haikuports] waddlesplash closed pull request #611: file: bump to 5.27, move the magic file to a common sub-package. - https://git.io/vrXke
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<Not-b880> [haikuports] waddlesplash closed pull request #598: tar: bump to 1.29, rework patch, mark x86 as tested, add TEST(). - https://git.io/vrW5p
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[01:41:34] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson 5b8104a - tar: bump to 1.29, rework patch, mark x86 as tested, add TEST(). (#598)
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[01:54:26] <cc^mint> .
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[02:10:02] <cc^mint> rennj!
[02:10:09] <rennj> yo
[02:10:11] <rennj> cc^mint,
[02:11:23] <Barrett> hola
[02:21:59] <cc^mint> Barrett!
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[02:43:38] <Barrett> hey cc^mint
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[03:27:33] <rennj> cc^mint, beos 16 year birthday coming up
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[03:28:29] <rennj> 4 cpu in vmware for beos ..spins up my box
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[03:33:01] <cc^mint> hehe
[03:33:49] <rennj> 4cpu and 768MB of ram on amd
[03:33:53] <rennj> net_server
[03:34:03] <rennj> bone7a would require me to fix kernel again
[03:34:43] <rennj> may 26 2000 12:27:12
[03:35:09] <rennj> afternoon kernel compile geist
[03:42:06] * geist is compiled
[03:43:11] <rennj> divide by zero
[03:44:42] <rennj> so 16 years ago geist where you working for beos?
[03:45:21] <rennj> be inc
[03:47:08] * IIsi50MHz increments be
[03:47:46] <geist> yeah
[03:47:56] <rennj> seems longer
[03:48:12] <geist> well, it was 17 years ago, actually
[03:48:24] <rennj> like forever since i had baremetal hardware
[03:49:05] <rennj> 10 years to me seems like 20, and 16 even longer like 30
[03:50:09] <rennj> computer years probably
[03:51:30] <rennj> 768MB of ram and i got 16GB in this laptop
[03:51:30] <rennj> this is why i think...
[03:53:48] <geist> if you have 768MB 16 years ago that was a massive machine
[03:53:53] <geist> 64MB or so was more common
[03:54:42] <rennj> i had 4GB of ram in 1994 in my sun e2000 and 20 cpu's
[03:55:19] <rennj> pentium pro with how much back then
[03:56:06] <geist> yeah that was a massive machine
[03:56:26] <geist> i seem to remember we had a pair of e2000s that was the main shell box for my university around 1995
[03:56:35] <rennj> but yeah pc gear
[03:56:35] <rennj> hmmm 2000 hard to recall
[03:56:35] <rennj> sun dragon top of the line 32bit
[03:56:42] <rennj> heh i wish
[03:56:43] <geist> was hilarious running ps and seeing like a 1000 instances of pine running
[03:56:53] <rennj> more 386's and dumb terminals
[03:57:41] <rennj> serial multiplexing
[03:57:41] <rennj> i use to telnet to wvu for ada compiler
[03:57:41] <rennj> but that was before 1994
[03:57:45] <geist> sparcsrver 2000? something like that
[03:58:00] <rennj> yep
[03:58:13] <rennj> sparcserver 2000, 1000
[03:58:30] <rennj> 20,10,5,4 days
[03:58:34] <rennj> ipx,lx old junk by then
[04:00:04] <geist> i have a sparcstation lx somewhere in one of these boxes
[04:00:11] <geist> fire it up every once in a while, but it's super slow
[04:04:14] <rennj> heh
[04:04:14] <rennj> sunos 4.1.3 on it vs solaris
[04:04:14] <rennj> slowaris...was that transition
[04:04:14] <rennj> the move from bsd to SysVr4
[04:04:14] <rennj> sparc 10 running 4.1.3 vs sparc 10 running solaris 2.x
[04:04:14] <rennj> night and day
[04:04:15] <rennj> meh..lost to history
[04:04:15] <rennj> had to have been there using it..to understand
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[05:20:29] <HAIKU-irker315> a9469b09d84c: Update pci.ids from pciids.sourceforge.net
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[07:11:01] <Paradoxon> hwo do i specify a range
[07:11:04] <Paradoxon> with hey
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[07:46:43] <rennj> i was looking for my vcr hey script but..offsite
[07:49:20] <Paradoxon> ok found out buy testing.. but thanks..
[07:49:25] <Paradoxon> but still it dont work..
[07:49:38] <Paradoxon> i got a Textview... also can read the values.. out of it..
[07:49:41] <rennj> hey v1.2.4, written by Attila Mezei (amezei at mail dot datanet.hu)
[07:49:47] <rennj> <index> : index | '['index']' | '['-reverse_index']' | '['fromvalue to tovalue']'
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[07:49:55] <Paradoxon> hey StyledEdit get Text [0 to 20] of View 2 of View 1 of Window 1
[07:49:58] <rennj> usage: hey [-s] <app|signature> <verb> <specifier_1> <of <specifier_n>>*
[07:49:59] <rennj> [to <value>] [with name=<value> [and name=<value>]*]
[07:49:59] <rennj> where <verb> : DO|GET|SET|COUNT|CREATE|DELETE|GETSUITES|QUIT|SAVE|LOAD|'what'
[07:50:03] <Paradoxon> i know
[07:50:04] <Paradoxon> :)
[07:50:08] <rennj> ok
[07:50:12] <rennj> just making sure
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[07:50:16] <Paradoxon> hey StyledEdit get Text [0 to 20] of View 2 of View 1 of Window 1 work perfect
[07:50:17] <Paradoxon> now
[07:50:23] <Paradoxon> after figuring it out
[07:50:28] <Paradoxon> but setting dont work. :(
[07:50:50] <Paradoxon> hey StyledEdit set Text [0 to 20] of View 2 of View 1 of Window 1 to "Hallo?"
[07:51:01] <Paradoxon> will delete char 0 to 20 but not insert Hallo?
[07:51:08] <Paradoxon> any hints??
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[07:52:38] <Paradoxon> it returns the verry helpfull error 0 :-D
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[08:19:08] <opeth> weiss jemand warum der VLC Player keine MP3 abspielt ? und warum kann man in das Playlistfenster nicht mit drag in drop Songs hinzufügen ?
[08:23:33] <Paradoxon> opeth auf deutsch gibts hilfe in #Haiku-de
[08:23:46] <Paradoxon> here only in english
[08:23:49] <Paradoxon> :-D
[08:24:11] <Paradoxon> the vlc is a verry old version of the vlc and its not complete ported...
[08:24:23] <Paradoxon> so parts are missing
[08:24:36] <Paradoxon> like drag ´n drop support
[08:24:47] <Paradoxon> i would suggest to use mediaplayer
[08:25:03] <Paradoxon> wich uses a way more advanced version of ffmpeg
[08:25:05] <Paradoxon> lib
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[08:25:23] <Paradoxon> and supports drag n drop
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[09:29:07] <tojoko> Paradoxon, i guess he didn't know how to join #haiku-de
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[09:35:26] <tojoko> can anybody tell me how to find mistakes in c code under haiku?
[09:36:05] <jessicah> with experience? :p
[09:37:17] <FlyingJester> If the compiler doesn't compile it, then there is a mistake in it. That's the most trusty tool of all.
[09:37:36] <tojoko> funny - but i know a real good site for bash programmin'. you cut n paste your code, and it will mark mistakes with links to background information. anything like that for c? please!
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[09:49:35] <DHowett> stack overflow, but it's not an automated process
[09:49:35] <DHowett> ;)
[09:55:01] <FlyingJester> The clang static analyzer can do some things like that.
[09:55:04] <FlyingJester> Valgrind, too.
[09:55:09] <FlyingJester> (sort of)
[09:55:21] <FlyingJester> Neither of which work in Haiku, as far as I know.
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[09:57:01] <FlyingJester> tojoko ^
[09:57:30] <FlyingJester> There are also some C linting tools, I think, although I've never used them.
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[10:28:50] <tojoko> thanks FlyingJester
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[11:10:12] <tojoko> anybody any idea whiy __TIMESTAMP__ doesn't work while __TIME__ and __DATE__ do?
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[11:19:26] <tojoko> what was the name of the command line editor?
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[11:35:59] <tojoko> vim is somethin' different from vi, isn't it?
[11:37:58] <tojoko> why doesn't installoptionalpackage work?
[11:40:12] <tojoko> thanks, nano % lpe was what i was lookin' for.
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[12:28:18] <jjkola> hi
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[12:34:27] <tojoko> hi jjkola
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[12:39:02] <tojoko> good morning HaikuUser. :)
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[13:11:23] <tojoko> ni Negr0
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[14:34:12] <tojoko> hi mmu_man
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[15:13:20] <mmu_man> plop
[15:16:31] <tojoko> hej, mmu_man, Paradoxon said somethin' about a haiku hardware database. Do u know, what he might have meant?
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[15:22:55] <cc^mint> Barrett!
[15:24:25] <Barrett> hey
[15:24:59] <tojoko> what does he mean by plop? we used to say that when we blacklisted someone in the good of days of the usenet.
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[15:34:00] <Auroz> Does anyone know if it's possible to compile *nix software for haiku?
[15:34:48] <Barrett> Auroz, yes
[15:34:57] <Auroz> How would I go about doing that?
[15:35:11] <Barrett> depend on what you are aiming to compile
[15:35:26] <Barrett> and depend on libraries
[15:36:01] <Auroz> Thanks
[15:36:10] <Barrett> generally any POSIX software can be used on Haiku
[15:36:25] <Barrett> but if you need a gtk one, you can't because there's not a gtk port
[15:36:28] <Barrett> just for instance
[15:36:37] <Auroz> ah, right
[15:36:56] <tojoko> well, i guess it is a try thing. well, be great to have such infos structured.
[15:36:57] <Barrett> we have a Qt port anyway
[15:37:42] <Barrett> Auroz, there are lot of recipes in haikuports to look at
[15:37:50] <Auroz> thanks
[15:41:14] <Barrett> and also feel free to contribute pull requests :-)
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[15:41:55] <Auroz> I would, but I'm nowhere near good enough at C or C++ to do so
[15:43:23] <Barrett> for the majority of software you need just little knowledge of C/C++
[15:43:46] <Barrett> most of the "problems" solve configuring correctly the source
[15:45:18] <tojoko> r u kiddin? and if i assume i found an error and are about to correct it, how do i know i'm not mistaken?
[15:46:12] <Barrett> tojoko, every situation has it's own tricks
[15:46:45] <Barrett> for example if the source complain not finding a posix header, it's not a good idea to modify directly the code
[15:46:55] <Barrett> and things like that
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[16:18:08] <tojoko> i just got a message while compilin' "in file included ..." anybody knows if that does any harm!?
[16:18:57] <Barrett> tojoko, that looks like a syntax error
[16:19:11] <Barrett> you have to show me the whole error
[16:19:15] <Barrett> or I can't help much
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[16:21:50] <tojoko> well, thanks, it somehow fixed now. it just can't open tha file.
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[17:03:17] <tojoko> how to include a text file into a c program? I mean, i could load it, but it should be included in the later executable.
[17:06:01] <Barrett> tojoko, just declare a string
[17:06:51] <tojoko> with 1000 digits?
[17:07:59] <Barrett> tojoko, can you extend on what you want to do?
[17:08:19] <Barrett> if you want to read a file just read a file :-)
[17:09:20] <tojoko> well, it's a programm in a text file and it should be included as a demo programm in my programm later. if i just read the file, it won't be included.
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[17:14:45] <Barrett> tojoko, correct me if I'm wrong
[17:15:02] <Barrett> you have some text, you want to load in the app and have it included in the executable?
[17:15:25] <Barrett> i.e. you don't want to provide it as external file
[17:15:51] <tojoko> right, cause that wouldn'T be linke, i'd like to have a single file at the end.
[17:16:04] <Barrett> then put it in a string
[17:16:29] <Barrett> maybe in a it's own file that you can include in your source to make things more cleaner
[17:16:56] <Barrett> also as I've said yesterday, on modern computers don't care much about memory consumption
[17:17:27] <Barrett> 1k, 10k, 100k is literally nothing for the average today computere
[17:18:27] <tojoko> ok, thanks. well, i guess i gotta read about how to include files and partition the source into various files.
[17:20:27] <Barrett> tojoko, my suggestion is to read some C manual
[17:23:56] <tojoko> oh, that's just so borin' - but sorry for gettin' on your nervs with that simple stuff.
[17:24:42] <Barrett> tojoko, I'm not getting nervous don't worry
[17:24:49] <Barrett> it's just hard to help sometimes :-)
[17:25:24] <tojoko> problem is', i don't have the time to do a lot of readin' right now ;) and i don't want to, since i feel i know enough about computers, i just can't do.
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[18:18:18] <PulkoMandy> tojoko: for an Haiku program you can use BResource to embed data into the executable
[18:23:50] <tojoko> thanks PulkoMandy, but it shouldn't be an Haiku programm, although i'm codin' in haiku.
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[18:35:35] <tojoko> nope, actually not an option.
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<Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson synchronize pull request #608: pciutils: add recipe for 3.5.1, enable shared, split data. - https://git.io/vrahZ
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[20:07:02] <Paradoxon> any hey pros here?
[20:08:01] <Paradoxon> hey StyledEdit get Text [0 to 20] of View 2 of View 1 of Window 1 is working perfect as expected
[20:08:16] <Paradoxon> But hey StyledEdit set Text [0 to 20] of View 2 of View 1 of Window 1 to "Hallo?" doesent work
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<Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson opened pull request #612: mpg123: bump to 1.23.4 with miscellaneous minor changes. - https://git.io/vrM9O
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<Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson opened pull request #613: libbluray: bump to 0.9.3 with a big gcc2 patch; minor changes. (WIP) - https://git.io/vrMdX
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[21:30:51] <Barrett> wow, I forgot of it :-)
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[22:58:25] <Barrett> tojoko, cool logo the EuroBSDCon
[22:59:25] <Barrett> Haiku is a new open-source operating system that specifically targets personal computing. Created by Haiku Inc.
[22:59:38] <Barrett> hmm, not really, Haiku Inc. doesn't have nothing to do with development iself
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[23:04:29] <tojoko> hehe
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[23:07:21] <tojoko> naja, kdelib would be probably the first problem.
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[23:50:36] <miqlas-H> Hi Guys!
[23:53:46] <vidrep> Hi
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