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[00:00:47] <bbjimmy> If it shows up as a disk, the zeta bootman can chainload it. It doesn't mean Zeta can boot from it,
[00:01:21] <bbjimmy> off to work.... bye
[00:02:41] <tojoko> ciao, thanks for the hints
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[00:47:47] <dorje> Has anyone been able to boot from the recent nightlies ?
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[02:02:40] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #706 of haiku-nightlies-x86_64 is complete: Failure [failed jam @nightly-raw build &lt;repository&gt;Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86_64/builds/706
[02:02:58] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #716 of haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86_gcc2_hybrid/builds/716
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[02:08:59] <cc^mint> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6LvvGhaKTo
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[04:24:45] <N9DH> kutos to them that ported Cool Reader3 to Haiku
[04:25:15] <FlyingJester> *kudos
[04:27:30] <N9DH> A m reading Faust from project Guttenburg......CoolReader is GREAT!!
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[04:35:29] <N9DH> Really enjoying Haiku if one just digs a lot of software can be found
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[05:10:42] <rennj> coolreader like spork/fork of fbreader
[05:12:23] <rennj> hmm maybe its not a fork
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[05:13:38] <rennj> Similar to FBReader, Aldiko, AlReader, Nook, Laputa, Moon+ reader....l
[05:14:30] <rennj> similar to tealdoc on palmpilot
[05:14:34] <rennj> haha
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[05:22:28] <rennj> haiku needs calibre ported to it
[05:23:30] <FlyingJester> I'd rather see OpenSMTPD ported
[05:23:39] <rennj> ffmpeg/mplayer, covers video/audio, calibre covers ebooks...or something along those lines
[05:23:59] <FlyingJester> Oh, I was thinking the email server...
[05:24:12] <rennj> sendmail postfix
[05:24:15] <rennj> hehe
[05:24:42] <rennj> soak up the culture..video audio books
[05:24:54] <rennj> beos 5.0.3 birthday!!!
[05:25:02] <rennj> may 26 2000 coming up!!
[05:25:12] <rennj> 16 years
[05:25:29] <rennj> i got my beos amd vm and beos intel vm
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[05:25:47] <rennj> net_server mind you not bone7a
[05:25:59] <rennj> so i will be celebrating....
[05:26:42] <rennj> quad core 768MB boot and screenshot...
[05:26:48] <rennj> for 26th
[05:28:11] <rennj> vmware can still run beos
[05:28:22] <rennj> but virtualbox and qemu fail least last i tried
[05:28:30] <rennj> same for nextstep
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[06:08:44] <CandidC> Hey what's happened to the Allegro port? I can't seem to find it at all in Depot
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[09:12:12] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson synchronize pull request #608: pciutils: add recipe for 3.5.1, enable shared, split data. - https://git.io/vrahZ
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[09:29:00] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson synchronize pull request #609: make: add recipe for 4.2, add TEST(), switch to mirror. - https://git.io/vrajg
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[11:08:31] <tojoko> can't get a git connectoin to work.
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[11:24:39] <BrunoSpr> s there still the old macromedia flash player for BeOs around?
[11:25:31] <BrunoSpr> hello all
[11:28:10] <BrunoSpr> Is there any documentation for checkfs?
[11:34:46] <BrunoSpr> where to find: mpeg1audio_fh.decoder?
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[11:41:31] <tojoko> hi mmu_man
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[12:15:07] <tojoko> finally git is runnin'.
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[12:39:47] <tojoko> is there an editor in tha bash?
[12:44:26] <tojoko> why is there no vi?
[12:48:13] <mmu_man> it's not installed by default
[12:48:15] <mmu_man> there's nano
[12:48:19] <mmu_man> or you can pkgman install vim
[12:48:36] <mmu_man> or you can use lpe
[12:50:09] <tojoko> thank u
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[13:03:54] <Not-b880> [haikuports] Giova84 opened issue #610: QuickRes doesn't appears under the "Open with" context menu: this can be achieved by changing the supported mime types in the executable. - https://git.io/vroIg
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[15:50:23] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson synchronize pull request #609: make: add recipe for 4.2, add TEST(), switch to mirror. - https://git.io/vrajg
[15:53:13] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson edited pull request #609: make: add recipe for 4.2, add TEST(), switch to mirror. - https://git.io/vrajg
[16:15:12] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson synchronize pull request #609: make: add recipe for 4.2, add TEST(), switch to mirror. - https://git.io/vrajg
[16:16:27] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson edited pull request #609: make: add recipe for 4.2, add TEST(), switch to mirror. - https://git.io/vrajg
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[17:37:09] <HAIKU-irker315> haiku.master: barrett * hrev50330 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=8498eaf6cf0b+%5E6c06458f8aac
[17:37:11] <HAIKU-irker315> 8498eaf6cf0b: Add live555 packages
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[18:00:48] <Paradoxon> is there any skiplist implementation in haiku?
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[18:20:32] <tojoko> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/54534/ - please give it a try with webpositive
[18:28:43] <Paradoxon> is there a splitlist implementation in haiku?
[18:28:50] <Paradoxon> i mean skiplist
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[19:40:40] <tojoko> hej guys, is it makebootable /dev/disk/usb/1/0/raw oder makebootable /dev/disk/usb/1/0
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[19:44:16] <mmu_man> it should be the partition
[19:44:31] <mmu_man> .../N_0 usually
[19:44:42] <mmu_man> actually I think you can pass it a mount point
[19:45:00] <tojoko> right. thanks. i already messed it up. is there anything like fdisk/mbr? :)
[19:45:43] <tojoko> probably i had been enough to set the second partition active.
[19:45:48] <PulkoMandy> writembr ?
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[19:51:16] <tojoko> PulkoMandy, well, it doesn't bring me the partition table back, does it?
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[19:52:01] <PulkoMandy> no, only the boot code
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[19:53:14] <tojoko> thanks
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[20:31:33] <tojoko> could recover succesfully tha partition thanks to TestDisk! :)
[20:34:46] <miqlas-H> Hi Guys!
[20:35:06] <tojoko> hi miqlas-H
[20:35:10] <miqlas-H> Have anybody idea, why the configure script goes crazy while it checking the long long?
[20:35:27] <miqlas-H> "configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (long long)"
[20:36:30] <miqlas-H> Hi tojoko!
[20:36:56] <miqlas-H> Hi Mandy! Nice to see you again!
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[20:38:13] <mmu_man> miqlas-H: which app ?
[20:38:17] <mmu_man> tojoko: on linux ?
[20:38:24] <mmu_man> I don't think I've finished the Haiku port yet :p
[20:40:50] <miqlas-H> mmu_man: ruby
[20:40:55] <miqlas-H> the latest release
[20:41:29] <miqlas-H> i mean i'm trying to update the ruby reipe, but i got this error, so the configuring doesn't complete
[20:41:37] <mmu_man> gcc2 ?
[20:42:00] <tojoko> mmu_man, oh, u are already portin' it? no, on windows. and i wondered if i should give it a try for a port. ^
[20:42:17] <miqlas-H> nope, x86
[20:42:32] <tojoko> rofl
[20:43:17] <tojoko> miqlas-H, which version of haiku did u download? recommanded nightly? ;)
[20:43:18] <miqlas-H> I pretty like the ruby configure script, it using "colorize_result", so the results are green (found or ok), yellow (if it is optional), and red (if not found or error happened).
[20:43:38] <miqlas-H> It would be great to see it in more open source projects.
[20:43:57] <miqlas-H> Do you guys know any way to colorize the configure script outputs?
[20:44:04] <tojoko> well, i thought it a pit confusing, i like white, black n grey.
[20:44:40] <miqlas-H> tojoko: please, it is hrev50326 gcc2_h version
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[20:45:41] <miqlas-H> tojoko: isn't it nice? http://i.imgur.com/O55PMRL.png
[20:46:37] <miqlas-H> Here is my config.log: http://termbin.com/44zp
[20:48:11] <Ptrus> https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/12793 should be a beta blocker.
[20:49:08] <tojoko> miqlas-H, i have no clue what's that is about!
[20:50:02] <miqlas-H> Ptrus: why do you think that?
[20:50:08] <miqlas-H> tojoko: thx.
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[21:01:51] <opeth> hallo und guten Abend ist wohl keiner da ?
[21:05:13] <tojoko> hi, nee, ausserdem falsche sprache
[21:05:30] <tojoko> english please, since we don'T speak any german.
[21:09:32] <miqlas-H> Hallo und schön Abend dir!
[21:10:18] <miqlas-H> opeth: Du hast Privat Nachricht erhalten.
[21:10:24] <opeth> ich bin ber das deusche forum hir geladet
[21:11:11] <tojoko> opeth, nice, but there is #haiku-de for krauds. ;)
[21:11:41] <miqlas-H> tojoko: the word you are searching for is kraut
[21:11:55] <miqlas-H> right?
[21:11:57] <tojoko> ah, thanks a lot :)
[21:12:14] <opeth> install-wifi-firmwares.sh wont install my manuel downloadet packages ?
[21:12:42] <tojoko> opeth, why usin' it anyhow?
[21:13:00] <opeth> i dont understand
[21:13:08] <miqlas-H> opeth: i'm not sure, sorry. (Ich weiss es leider nicht)
[21:13:45] <tojoko> sorry, die frage ist, brauchst Du das dumme skript überhaupt? mir hat's zumindest eine installation zerschossen.
[21:13:46] <miqlas-H> Opeth, prüf mal bitte deine privat nachrichten, ich habe dir geschreben.
[21:13:47] <opeth> ok englsch kann ich nicht gut kannst du mir sagen wie ich in schreibgeschützte order dateien ablegen kann ?
[21:14:09] <miqlas-H> niergendwie, deswegen ist es ja schreibgesützt
[21:14:14] <opeth> wo finde ich das ich sehe hir nichts oder bei BE user group ?
[21:14:15] <tojoko> opeth, chmod ist drein freund, aber vermutlich ist es nicht richtig was du tust.
[21:14:37] <tojoko> opeth, was haste denn für ne karte?
[21:15:06] <opeth> ich möchte ein par fehlende wifi firmware hinzufügen muss das aber manuel machen da ich kein wlan auf dem laptop zum laufen bekomme
[21:15:09] <miqlas-H> tojoko, please, don't give wrong tips, he cannot write into the read-only folders with chmod.
[21:15:49] <miqlas-H> opeth: hast du die firmwares runtergeladet?
[21:15:56] <tojoko> miqlas-H, die idee war doch 'ne andere bzw. die aussage, wenn die schreibgeschützt sind, dann wahrscheinlich aus gutem Grund.
[21:16:11] <opeth> mit linux wüsste ich wie ich das rausbekomme -- es ist ein amilo m7400 laptop sehr alt
[21:16:15] <tojoko> opeth, kannste kein lan kabel kurz reinstecken?
[21:16:49] <tojoko> opeth, es interessiert mich nicht, ob er alt ist oder ob linux drauf laeuft. :) Aber ev. ist der Treiber schon drauf und du musst nur verbinden?
[21:16:59] <opeth> ja mit dem shell skipt rutergeladen und mit usb stick auf den haiku commuter ubertragen aber installieren geht nicht
[21:17:02] <tojoko> ich gebe zu, das waere auch der beste fall, aber koennt ja sein.
[21:17:08] <mmu_man> tojoko: yes, although I don't recall if it built at all
[21:17:29] <miqlas-H> opeth: hier gibt's ja die Einleitung, hast du es verfolgt? https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/de/workshop-wlan.html#tips
[21:17:33] <tojoko> opeth, es ist normalerweise vorinstalliert, du musst es nur ausfuehren, aus lizenzrechtlichen gründen!
[21:17:38] <opeth> hbae nur wlan vom hotspot
[21:18:03] <opeth> unter im netzwerk tool wird nur die lan angezeigt
[21:18:16] <tojoko> opeth, geh mal bitte auf "Start" -> "Preferences" -> "Network"
[21:18:23] <tojoko> opeth, ok, danke.
[21:18:43] <opeth> ja genau das habe ich gemacht so steht es auf auf der haiku seite
[21:18:57] <opeth> ja mache ich
[21:18:58] <tojoko> opeth, dann kannst Du ins Terminal gehen und einfach install-<tab> eingeben ...
[21:19:18] <opeth> bitte nicht suo schnell mus ins ander zimmer gehen
[21:19:36] <tojoko> es sei denn du hast eine von den beiden karten die nicht drinne sind. und es waere echt gut, du wuerdest vorher! noch die karte in Erfahrung bringen.
[21:21:24] <opeth> jo network ist offen und nun ?
[21:21:27] <miqlas-H> tojoko: du sprichst aber komisch deutsch. Woher bist du überhaupt?
[21:21:40] <tojoko> miqlas-H, halb pole, halb bayer ;)
[21:21:53] <miqlas-H> oh, danke.
[21:22:15] <tojoko> opeth, applications -> devices -> da muesste der name deiner Netzwerkkarte gelistet sein unter "Netzwerk" .
[21:22:43] <opeth> ja aber nur kabel netzwerk kein eintrag für wlan
[21:23:09] <opeth> brdcom440x/0
[21:23:27] <opeth> kann ich lspci auch in haiku aisführen ?
[21:23:42] <tojoko> probiers
[21:23:59] <tojoko> aber eigentlich muessten da zwei netzwerkkarten stehen.
[21:24:27] <miqlas-H> wart' mal kurz! Ich habe gerade die firmware runterlader script gelaufen gelassen, es hat mir ein zip datei erstellt, was will nur in /system/cache schreiben, was tatsaechlich schreibbar ist. Was willst du überhaupt mit den schreibgesützte Ordnern? Du machst etwas ganz falsch....
[21:26:13] <opeth> also der befehl install-wifi-firmwares.sh mecker obwol ich in dem ordner bin wo sich die daten befinden
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[21:26:51] <miqlas-H> opeth: wo befinden sich die Daten?
[21:27:06] <opeth> lspci geht nicht in haiku console wie finde ich den name der wlan karte raus ?
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[21:27:27] <miqlas-H> opeth: du hast es schon gefunden. Es ist brdcom440x/0
[21:27:41] <miqlas-H> es gibt kein lspci in Haiku.
[21:27:46] <opeth> im hauptverzeichnis ( haiku)
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[21:28:06] <miqlas-H> bitte, gib mal uns die wirkliche Pfad
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[21:28:48] <miqlas-H> si sollen in /boot/system/cache/tmp/package_me/... sein
[21:29:47] <miqlas-H> Du kannst öffnen die zip datei mit expander (doppeltecick), und dort gibt es ja ein radio-box, Inhalt darstellen, oder was aenliches unten. Drück mal das...
[21:29:49] <opeth> auf der haiku seite steht das die firmware in /boot soll ?
[21:30:02] <miqlas-H> was zeigt es dir?
[21:30:30] <miqlas-H> mir zeigt es so ein Pfad als beispiel:
[21:30:31] <miqlas-H> system/cache/tmp/package_me/boot/system/data/firmware/marvell88w8335/malo-firmware-1.4.tar.gz
[21:30:47] <tojoko> opeth, hat der rechner kein lan oder haste kein so langes lankabel?
[21:30:59] <opeth> der shellscript hat bei mir nur einen ordner runtergeladen aber keine zip datei daraus gemacht
[21:31:03] <miqlas-H> so wenn du es in /boot extrachierst, die firmwaren werden am ende in /boot/system/cache/tmp/package_me/boot/system/data/firmware/....usw
[21:31:22] <miqlas-H> nur dort findet sie die install-firmware script
[21:31:36] <opeth> ich habe nur hotspot internet vom hotel gegenüber ich möchte keinen internet vertrag
[21:31:47] <miqlas-H> opeth: das ist die ursache.
[21:31:54] <miqlas-H> was hast du in dem ordner?
[21:32:35] <opeth> moment ich kucke nach
[21:33:46] <opeth> der ordner heist wifi-firmware und darin ist ein ordner system und dann gehts ewig weiter so wie im stammbaum von haiku
[21:34:41] <opeth> mit welcher eingabe bekomme ich die installierte hardware angezeigt ?
[21:36:06] <miqlas-H> opeth, wir wissen schon, was für eine Hardware du hast.
[21:36:36] <miqlas-H> Ich glaube, du hast versucht die firmwaren durch hotspot runterladen.
[21:36:58] <opeth> aber das ist doch nur die lan karte oder ? als mal linux drauf war his die wlan karte eth1 was ja sehr unüblich ist fals das was hilft
[21:37:22] <miqlas-H> Die hotspots haben aber firewall öfters, so dieses script konnte leider nicht runterladen die nötige daten, deswegen hat es die zip datei nicht erstellt.
[21:37:41] <miqlas-H> kannst du wieder den runterlader script durchführen?
[21:37:45] <tojoko> opeth, eth1 heisst einfach nur soviel wie netzwerkkarteNumberOne.
[21:37:55] <miqlas-H> wenn nicht, ich kann die zp datei dir zuschicken lassen per email
[21:38:01] <tojoko> miqlas-H, deine deutsche auch nicht das beste. ^
[21:38:23] <opeth> ja aber normalerweise ist wlan immer wlan0 und lan ist eth0
[21:38:24] <miqlas-H> tojoko: ich weiss das natürlich
[21:38:29] <opeth> ja kann ich machen
[21:38:51] <tojoko> opeth, achso, ja klar, aber anscheinend scheint er die karte eben gar nicht zu erkennen.
[21:39:09] <miqlas-H> und wenn es fertig ist, kannst du bitte die output hier kopieren?
[21:39:10] <opeth> ja leider
[21:39:19] <tojoko> miqlas-H, ich habe keine Ahnung, was er für 'ne netzwerkkarte hat. Weil, die wo ich dachte, die kennt google nicht.
[21:39:43] <miqlas-H> tojoko: er hat brdcom440x/0
[21:39:46] <opeth> mal sehen ob es möglich ist habe hier 2 computer
[21:39:52] <miqlas-H> es ist eine produktfamilie
[21:39:57] <tojoko> miqlas-H, die finde ich nicht! achso
[21:40:13] <tojoko> opeth, ich haette noch 'ne idee, wenn Du einen guten Rechner mit 'ner vm hast.
[21:40:26] <opeth> also den sshel script für den download oder den für den istaller ?
[21:40:30] <miqlas-H> tojoko: lass ihm eine weg verfolgen, bitte
[21:40:33] <opeth> ja virtualbox
[21:40:40] <miqlas-H> für download
[21:40:55] <opeth> ok
[21:41:31] <tojoko> ok
[21:41:54] <opeth> mist finde den skrip nicht mehr muss erst nochmal die seite suchen
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[21:42:17] <miqlas-H> opeth: die runterlader script macht mir so ein output: http://termbin.com/fdp6
[21:42:27] <miqlas-H> entschuldigung für die ungarische text.
[21:42:40] <miqlas-H> aber hoffentlich kannst du so grob verstehen.
[21:43:22] <miqlas-H> wenn es bei dir ganz anderes ist, dann etwas passt nicht mit dem hotspot.
[21:43:42] <opeth> die konsole schlist sich gleich nach dem download aber ich habe jetzt wider den ordner mit der firmware
[21:44:11] <miqlas-H> wie hast du dieses script gelaufen gelassen? mit doppelteclick?
[21:44:59] <opeth> ja stimmt so ungefär das steht da auch ich kann halt nur par sekunden zusehen und dann ist die konsole weg
[21:45:08] <miqlas-H> wenn ja, dann öffn mal bitte ein terminal oder console, navigier' mal in dem ordner wo der runterlader script sich befindet
[21:45:17] <opeth> aber es siht sehr ähnlich aus
[21:45:52] <miqlas-H> zumbeispiel mit "cd dem_ordner_wo_die_script_sich_befindet"
[21:46:25] <miqlas-H> bsp: "cd /home/opeth/desktop/"
[21:46:32] <miqlas-H> und dann:
[21:46:51] <opeth> ja ok
[21:47:19] <miqlas-H> ./download-data-for-wlan-firmwares.sh
[21:47:25] <miqlas-H> so kannst du es laufen lassen
[21:47:35] <miqlas-H> zeig uns was war die output
[21:47:39] <miqlas-H> copy-paste
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[21:48:26] <opeth> ok mach ich noch mal
[21:49:23] <tojoko> jungs, seid mir nicht boese, aber ich glaube die karte wird nicht unterstuetzt.
[21:49:40] <miqlas-H> ich bin ja nicht böse
[21:49:51] <opeth> ./download-data-for-wlan-firmwares.sh bash: ./download-data-for-wlan-firmwares.sh: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden opeth@z61p ~/Downloads $ ./download-data-for-wlan-firmwares.sh
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[21:51:24] <tojoko> miqlas-H: und brdcom440x/0 ist eine Lan-Karte! Also nicht die wlan karte!
[21:51:26] <miqlas-H> opeth, wie heisst deine script überhaupt?
[21:51:55] <opeth> download-data-for-wlan-firmwares..sh
[21:53:01] <opeth> ich habe eine text datei runtergeladen die auf der haikuseite steht und die text datei zu einem skript umgewandelt und dann ausufürbar gemacht und ausgefürt
[21:53:22] <miqlas-H> umm: ich sehe, dass broadcom43xx ist unterstüzt. Aber wir wissen dann noch nicht, was für eine wlan karte er hat, so wenn es nicht sichtbar in haiku, wir sollen versuchen die firmwaren zu runterladen. wenn es nicht funktionier nach dem firmware installierung, können wir sagen, das es nicht unterstüzt
[21:53:25] <opeth> https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/daily-tasks/wireless#firmware-offline
[21:53:32] <miqlas-H> opeth:
[21:53:37] <miqlas-H> schreib in terminal:
[21:53:50] <miqlas-H> chmod +x deinescript.sh
[21:54:01] <opeth> ok
[21:54:19] <miqlas-H> es ist genug nur ein-paar character schreiben und dann TAB drücken, es wird automatisch ergaenzt
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[21:54:43] <miqlas-H> dann ./deinescript.sh
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[21:54:49] <miqlas-H> TAB ergaenzt wieder
[21:55:34] <opeth> der sript ist bei mir eine datei ich weis nicht was ich da schreiben soll
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[21:55:48] <miqlas-H> die name des datei
[21:55:58] <miqlas-H> zum beispiel:
[21:56:17] <miqlas-H> chmod +x ownload-data-for-wlan-firmwares.sh
[21:56:24] <miqlas-H> dann ./ownload-data-for-wlan-firmwares.sh
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[21:57:21] <opeth> chmod +x download-data-for-wlan-firmwares..sh
[21:58:07] <miqlas-H> na?
[21:58:39] <opeth> ich habe den download schon ihr wollt die ausgabe des terminels sehen ? dann sagt mir wie kann ich verhindern das sich das terminel nach dem download selber schliest ?
[21:59:12] <opeth> ok ich mach das mal
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[21:59:21] <miqlas-H> theoretisch du sollst sehen, dass es runterladet die daten und dann ein zip datei erstellt
[22:00:26] <miqlas-H> wenn noch immer nicht geht, schreib mir deine email addresse in privat nachricht, und ich schicke dir die zip datei. ich habe es ja schon vorhanden
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[22:00:38] <opeth> so scheint das nicht zu gehen da kommt sowas dabei raus
[22:00:42] <opeth> peth@z61p ~ $ chmod +x download-data-for-wlan-firmwares..sh chmod: Zugriff auf „download-data-for-wlan-firmwares..sh“ nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden opeth@z61p ~ $
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[22:01:14] <miqlas-H> opet, schick mir deine email addresse, ich schicke es.
[22:01:17] <opeth> wenn ich die .sh datei einfach anklicke und ausführen in konsole wähle dann macht sie den download
[22:01:47] <miqlas-H> aber es erzeugt keine zip date, so es kann bestimmt nicht alles runterladen.
[22:02:28] <miqlas-H> aber du siehst die fehlermeldung, weil es schiesst sich automatisch sofort
[22:02:52] <opeth> ja kan man ja auch sehen aber ich kann es nicht copieren weil sich das terminel sofort nach ende selber schließt
[22:03:37] <miqlas-H> deswegen schick mir bitte deine email addresse, ich schicke es dir per email. reiten wir an tote pferd nicht, bitte.
[22:04:11] <opeth> nein keine fehlermeldung es wird ein ordner mit der firmare runtergeladen und dann ist die konsole weg ohne fehlermeldung man kann sehe wie es runterläd
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[22:05:04] <opeth> aber nicht im chat zu viel spamm würde ich bekommen ??
[22:05:37] <miqlas-H> in privat nachricht, bitte.
[22:05:39] <bbjimmy> I don't know if it is just me and WebPositive, but I cannot load http://fatelk.com/repo or http://yab.orgfree.com in Web+, Qupzilla loads the pages just fine.
[22:05:43] <miqlas-H> das sehe ich nur
[22:05:59] <opeth> ich bin bei haiku user group angemeldet und heiße da opeth
[22:06:39] <opeth> http://beusergroup.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=featured&Itemid=185
[22:06:45] <miqlas-H> Opeth, es ist spaet, ich muss gehen bald, schick mal bitte deine email addresse, lass mich dir helfen, dann gehe ich, ich bin ja in kneipe, und morgen arbeit....
[22:07:12] <opeth> reanimator1000 at web dot de
[22:07:19] <miqlas-H> ohscheiss.
[22:07:33] <miqlas-H> ich habe ja gesagt, dass du es in privat schicken sollst
[22:07:58] <miqlas-H> gesendet
[22:07:59] <opeth> wo geht das hier ?
[22:08:07] <opeth> oder wie ?
[22:08:34] <tojoko> du hast ja gesagt, die verzeichnisstruktur ist die gleiche wie in Haiku - du kannst des auch versuchen rüber zu kopieren, den gesamten Ordner. früher unter beos haben wir das so gemacht. aber kein plan., ich würds in der vm installieren, aktualisieren und dann versuchen auf den stick zu kopieren.
[22:08:41] <miqlas-H> als ich früher dir gesagt, dass du privat nachrich bekommen hast, du hast mir sogar geantwortet.
[22:08:51] <miqlas-H> dort habe ich es gemeint, nicht hier
[22:09:05] <tojoko> opeth, er meinte /msg miqlas-H e-mail-adresse - weil das hier öffentlich mitgeloggt wird.
[22:09:11] <tojoko> is jetzt aber auch egal! :)
[22:09:34] <miqlas-H> prüf mal deine mailbox, bitte
[22:09:43] <opeth> ja habe verstanden Danke ! gute ide mit Virtual maschine
[22:09:44] <miqlas-H> da soll eine zip datei sein
[22:10:27] <miqlas-H> dass muss du ganz einfach zu deine Haiku machine transportieren (zum beispiel mit usb diskette), und dort ins /boot extrachieren
[22:11:09] <miqlas-H> wenn du es mit doppelteklick offnest in Haiku, es wird in Expander geöffnet.
[22:11:20] <opeth> ja habe schon öffter so gemacht mit bsd und linux aber nicht mehr dran gedacht
[22:11:25] <miqlas-H> Es hat eine schlange fenster, bret, aber nich hoch.
[22:11:36] <miqlas-H> Da wird zwei eingabe feld.
[22:12:32] <miqlas-H> Beide hat eine Taste links vorne
[22:12:38] <opeth> ist ja keine .zip aber ich kann ja aine daraus machen
[22:12:40] <miqlas-H> du muss die zweite anklicken
[22:12:55] <miqlas-H> wie bitte?
[22:14:12] <opeth> also was nun jetzt verstehe ich nicht was ich machen soll ?
[22:14:16] <miqlas-H> tojoko: kannst du übernehmen? Er muss es nur einfach ins /boot extrachieren, so in Expander in dem untere eingabefeld /boot schreiben und dann die Extract taste drücken unten.
[22:14:52] <miqlas-H> opeth: wo du die zip runtengeladen hast, das ist nicht deine Haiku machine, oder?
[22:15:07] <miqlas-H> du muss dieses zip datei zu deinen Haiku machine übertragen
[22:15:12] <opeth> ja das ist ein linux pc
[22:15:18] <miqlas-H> koper es auf deine USB disk
[22:15:55] <miqlas-H> dann kannst du dieses usb disk zu deinen Haiku machine verbinden
[22:16:02] <opeth> ja es ist aber keine .zip sondern nur ein orner darum dacht ich ich mache einfach selber eine .zip aus dem orner und ubertrage dann
[22:16:17] <miqlas-H> opeth, bitte
[22:16:50] <miqlas-H> es soll mehr als 300 kB sein.
[22:16:56] <miqlas-H> ist es so gross?
[22:17:10] <miqlas-H> 326kB ist es bei mir
[22:17:26] <opeth> ich habe versucht die dateien einzel an den richtigen platz zu kopeiren aber das ging nicht ich probiere es mit extrackt
[22:17:27] <miqlas-H> sorry, 323 ist es
[22:17:37] <miqlas-H> ok
[22:17:37] <opeth> moment
[22:17:53] <miqlas-H> opeth, schreib /boot ins zielordner feld
[22:18:14] <opeth> 751 kb
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[22:18:21] <miqlas-H> egal
[22:18:24] <opeth> ja ich mache noch mal
[22:19:47] <miqlas-H> wenn es fertig ist, kannst du in Haiku in terminal schreiben:
[22:20:02] <miqlas-H> install-wifi-firmwares.sh
[22:20:05] <miqlas-H> und enter
[22:20:16] <miqlas-H> sag uns, was passiert
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[22:20:29] <opeth> ja dauert 10 minuten
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[22:20:54] <opeth> ich kenne die anleitung von hier
[22:21:01] <miqlas-H> was dauert seit 10 minuten?
[22:21:20] <miqlas-H> oder was dauert 10 minuten lang?
[22:21:27] <opeth> https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/daily-tasks/wireless#firmware-offline
[22:21:42] <miqlas-H> opeth, sag mir was du gerade machst, bitte
[22:21:42] <opeth> mache mich jetzt an die haiku maschine bis gleich
[22:21:54] <miqlas-H> danke
[22:22:26] <opeth> habe die zip datei erstellt und auf usb stick jetzt gehe ich an haiku pc und mache dort extrackt
[22:23:43] <miqlas-H> ok
[22:23:44] <miqlas-H> los
[22:24:59] <opeth> im entpacker als ziel /boot ?
[22:25:29] <miqlas-H> ja
[22:25:48] <miqlas-H> dann in terminal:
[22:26:01] <opeth> gut habe ich gemacht
[22:26:03] <miqlas-H> install-wifi-firmwares.sh
[22:26:24] <miqlas-H> es wird dir schreiben, das es ein packet erstellt und installiert
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[22:26:42] <opeth> in welchem ordner muss ich auf der console sein ?
[22:26:50] <miqlas-H> egal
[22:26:51] <opeth> auch in /boot
[22:26:54] <opeth> ?
[22:26:59] <miqlas-H> ganz egal
[22:26:59] <opeth> ok
[22:27:08] <miqlas-H> dann muss du nur neustarten
[22:27:42] <opeth> kommt die große meldung wegen lizens lesen und bestätigen oder wie man das übesetzt
[22:27:50] <miqlas-H> du kannst aber waehrendessen uns informieren, weil ich habe meine letztes bier schon ausgetrink, und ich möchte gerne gehen.
[22:27:57] <miqlas-H> bestaetigen
[22:29:03] <miqlas-H> und?
[22:29:19] <opeth> es ist so wie es schon beim ersten vwersuch ist jetzt kommen meherere einzelmeldungen -- falide to download ....
[22:29:49] <opeth> ich copier die ausgabe
[22:29:51] <miqlas-H> ok; aber was schreibt am ende?
[22:30:05] <miqlas-H> füg es als privat nachricht ein!
[22:31:16] <opeth> kann den text der konsole nicht kopieren wie mache ich ein screenshot ?
[22:32:04] <tojoko> kopieren geht, aber mit alt c, nicht strg.
[22:32:17] <tojoko> screenshot mit druck, wie immer, meine ich.
[22:32:38] <opeth> ok monet noch
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[22:33:07] <opeth> gibt es eine texteditor in haiku ?
[22:33:17] <miqlas-H> StyledEdit in menu
[22:33:47] <opeth> pe alles klar
[22:34:59] <miqlas-H> opeth: Siehst du so etwas in output?
[22:35:02] <miqlas-H> ?
[22:35:21] <miqlas-H> wenn ja, dann nichts machen, nur neustarten
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[22:35:25] <miqlas-H> BITTE!
[22:36:28] <opeth> terminel hat veil geschreiben kann jetzt nicht alles lesn mache ein text datei daraus
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[22:36:46] <miqlas-H> ok, tojoko, kannst du übernehmen von hier?
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[22:39:24] <opeth> gut habe die ausgabe kopiert soll ich sie hier mal in den chat stellen ?
[22:40:01] <miqlas-H> In privat nachricht
[22:40:23] <opeth> habe es bei dir schon als nachricht geschickt
[22:40:31] <opeth> privat ist angekommen ?
[22:40:40] <miqlas-H> opeth: du hast neue email bekommen.
[22:40:44] <miqlas-H> hpkg runterladen.
[22:40:54] <miqlas-H> usb kopieren
[22:41:01] <miqlas-H> auf Haiku machine kopieren
[22:41:07] <miqlas-H> doppelte click
[22:41:10] <miqlas-H> Install
[22:41:18] <miqlas-H> Dann Neustart
[22:41:25] <miqlas-H> mehr muss du nicht
[22:41:30] <miqlas-H> versuch das
[22:41:33] <opeth> ist das ein paketmanager ?
[22:41:44] <miqlas-H> diese hpkg waere die ergebnis des script
[22:41:52] <miqlas-H> nein, das ist eine paket
[22:42:12] <miqlas-H> Viel spass.
[22:42:18] <miqlas-H> ich muss gehen, morgen arbeit
[22:42:23] <miqlas-H> tschüss, viel erfolg.
[22:42:27] <miqlas-H> bye guys!
[22:42:29] <opeth> ok wenn ich es finde ist ja nicht mehr so einfach seit es die haiku soft nicht mehr gibt
[22:42:45] <opeth> Danke !!!! und gute nacht !
[22:42:58] <miqlas-H> opeth, was möchtest du mit haiku soft?
[22:43:17] <miqlas-H> haikuware meinst du?
[22:43:35] <opeth> so hieß doch die internetseite wo man haiku software laden konnte
[22:43:38] <miqlas-H> das brauchst du nicht, nur doppelteklick auf diesem HPKG Datei!
[22:43:43] <miqlas-H> Mach es!
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[22:43:51] <miqlas-H> Haiku wird es dir installieren
[22:43:53] <opeth> ja genai die mente ich die ist doch nicht mehr
[22:44:07] <miqlas-H> DAS BRAUCHST DU ÜBERHAUPT NICHT
[22:44:24] <miqlas-H> Haiku hat eigene packet manager, das startest du mit doppelteklick!!!!!
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[22:45:13] <opeth> ja aber habe ja keine internetverbindung am haiku pc
[22:45:25] <miqlas-H> opeth, MACH MAL!!!!
[22:45:42] <opeth> ok soll ich erst runterladen ?
[22:46:55] <opeth> gut habe gemacht
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[22:49:23] <opeth> was soll ich mit das ? firefox nimt das nicht sind keien internetadressen ? oder wias ist das ?
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[22:50:47] <opeth> was macht ihr da ?
[22:52:33] <opeth> nur mal zur info unter linux habe ich auf dem laptop auch nich eine verbindung aufbauen können ich musste immer eine usb wlan stick benutzen weil linux eth1 nicht als wlan anerkennen wollte
[22:53:37] <opeth> so weit ich weis kann man dem system klarmachen das eth1 jetzt wlan0 sein soll habe aber nicht rausgefunden wie man das mach
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[22:55:51] <miqlas> opeth: hat es funktioniert?
[22:56:38] <opeth> finde kein paket was so heist
[22:56:59] <miqlas> opeth, du hast es per email erhalten
[22:57:37] <opeth> ach so meine e-mail ?
[22:58:17] <opeth> ok jetz verstehe ich e- mal benutze ich nie
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[23:00:32] <opeth> mein internet ist sehr langsam
[23:00:42] <BrunoSpr> hello all
[23:01:16] <miqlas> opeth, wenn du es in deinem email findest, bitte, die xyz.hpkg runterladen (weiss nicht mehr, wie es heist)
[23:01:28] <miqlas> insh Haiku PC übertragen (USB)
[23:01:35] <miqlas> da mit doppelte klick öffnen
[23:01:41] <miqlas> Install taste drücken.
[23:01:56] <miqlas> Neustarten
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[23:04:50] <opeth> gut habe jetz die hpkg probiere es jetzt aus
[23:09:39] <opeth> immer der selbe mist man lad was runter speichert es und auf einmaöl ist es weg scheiß computer also noch mal
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[23:13:58] <BrunoSpr> ok bye for today... how to logoff without Vision?
[23:14:52] <BrunoSpr> do I have to logoff on web?
[23:15:43] <BrunoSpr> #logout
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[23:16:29] <opeth> ok wenn ich auf die hpkg datei doppelklicke startet Haiku depot aber es gibt ein istall button ?
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[23:19:12] <opeth> wenn ich die .hpkg anklicke kommt Haiku Depot abewr es gibt da kein Install knopf / button ? was nun ?
[23:19:20] <opeth> lkjj
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[23:22:05] <HAIKU-irker315> haiku.master: barrett * hrev50331 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ec8626dea0eb+%5E8498eaf6cf0b
[23:22:06] <HAIKU-irker315> ec8626dea0eb: Add live555 BuildFeature
[23:23:27] <opeth> ich suche gerade wie man mit hand installiert oder kan mir jemand den befel dafur geben ?
[23:23:45] <opeth> hpkg -install ? oder wie war das ?
[23:25:30] <puckipedia> you can just do pkgman install file.hpkg
[23:27:37] <opeth> ok
[23:27:53] <opeth> thanks
[23:34:54] <bbjimmy> Can anybody load jhttp://fatelk.com/repo or http://yab.orgfree.com in Web+? Qupzilla loads the pages just fine.
[23:35:26] <opeth> ~/Desktop> pkgman install wifi_firmwares-1-any.hpkg Downloading repochecksum-1... *** aborted : No Error (404565224) ~/Desktop>
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[23:38:42] <bbjimmy> All I get are blank pages.
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[23:42:18] <opeth> how to install a .hpkg manuel ?
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[23:42:27] <zacts> hi
[23:42:38] <zacts> Has ruby been ported to Haiku?
[23:43:21] <zacts> cool
[23:43:22] <zacts> it seems it has
[23:43:30] <zacts> I should try out Haiku on a computer
[23:43:42] <bbjimmy> double click the .hpkg or move it to a packages directory, /boot/system/packages or ~/config/packages.
[23:45:41] <bbjimmy> then wait for the package_daemon to pick up the change and install the files to the virtual directories.
[23:46:59] <zacts> I think I'm going to try out Haiku today, actually (on real HW)
[23:48:42] <bbjimmy> zacts I've been using it on real hardware for years. no Windows and Linux mint only for those rare occasions that I can't do what I need to do in Haiku.
[23:48:58] <zacts> Oh nice bbjimmy
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[23:49:16] <zacts> I might use Haiku as a desktop for my mum, who just uses the computer to browse the web and check her email
[23:49:38] <zacts> And if I like it enough, I may try it for development
[23:49:49] <zacts> so I guess to add drivers and features I need to know C++?
[23:49:54] <bbjimmy> My mother - in - law uses haiku in a vm on Windows 10
[23:50:38] <bbjimmy> Off to work... bye
[23:51:01] <zacts> laters
[23:51:12] <FreeFull> zacts: Problems: Anything that uses flash won't work in webpositive, any software she might want to download and run won't work, and webpositive isn't really the best bug-free experience
[23:51:35] <zacts> FreeFull: does HTML5 video work?
[23:51:41] <zacts> like can I watch HTML5 youtube?
[23:51:50] <zacts> she doesn't usually download software
[23:51:52] <FreeFull> Somewhat
[23:51:58] <zacts> I'll check it out and see
[23:52:08] <FreeFull> 360p youtube works great, but it's not the greatest experience at bigger sizes
[23:52:22] <FreeFull> And of course Haiku doesn't have hardware video decoding, it'll all be on the CPU
[23:52:24] <zacts> maybe I could personally help improve webpositive / Haiku, within the months / year
[23:52:45] <zacts> I could have her running it in like a year or two maybe
[23:52:49] <FreeFull> Also the controls on the youtube videos are glitchy
[23:52:57] <zacts> ah ok
[23:53:14] <zacts> FreeFull: well, I have another interest in adding a scripting language to script the Haiku desktop
[23:53:18] <zacts> does something exist?
[23:53:22] <zacts> or is it all done in C++?
[23:53:28] <FreeFull> When watching youtube on haiku I typically use ubertuber and mediaplayer
[23:53:49] <FreeFull> zacts: There is python and stuff I think
[23:53:56] <FreeFull> But I'm not sure how capable it is
[23:53:58] <zacts> like I'm intrigued by the idea of extending Haiku using another language
[23:54:00] <zacts> ok
[23:54:23] <zacts> could I theoretically hook into a Haiku API and extend it if I write the hooks into the scripting language?
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[23:55:36] <FreeFull> Sure, although it might be tricky because it is C++
[23:55:44] <FreeFull> You might have to write C wrappers
[23:56:21] <FreeFull> zacts: For example the Rust Haiku port doesn't provide any access to the Haiku-specific APIs right now, and just uses the POSIX stuff
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[23:57:52] <zacts> ah ok
[23:57:59] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson closed pull request #606: pipepanic: move from games-kids to games-puzzle; minor changes. - https://git.io/vr2uS
[23:58:01] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-2/±0] https://git.io/vr6Lv
[23:58:02] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson 0c1be5b - pipepanic: move from games-kids to games-puzzle; minor changes. (#606)
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[23:59:52] <zacts> How does Haiku deal with issues of security, especially network security and user accounts?
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