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[02:06:55] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson opened pull request #605: curl: bump to 7.49.0. - https://git.io/vr2cP
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[02:39:42] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #709 of haiku-nightlies-x86_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed jam @nightly-raw build &lt;repository&gt;Haiku] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-nightlies-x86_hybrid/builds/709
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[08:55:38] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson opened pull request #606: pipepanic: move from games-kids to games-puzzle; minor changes. - https://git.io/vr2uS
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[12:13:22] <Not-b880> [haikuports] korli closed pull request #605: curl: bump to 7.49.0. - https://git.io/vr2cP
[12:13:23] <Not-b880> [haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/vr2w5
[12:13:25] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson 5409cad - curl: bump to 7.49.0. (#605)
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[16:44:39] <Not-b880> [haikuports] Begasus opened pull request #607: color-lines, new recipe - https://git.io/vr2D9
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[16:56:20] <Begasus> oh nice ... found some stuff (games) that could work out pretty fine ;)
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[19:11:32] <tojoko> Hi. I'm doin' a simple hello world programm in c on haiku and it tells me i'm all wrong (ansi c forbides and empfty source file.
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[19:19:03] <Tguen> hi
[19:19:10] <tojoko> hi Tguen.
[19:19:31] <Tguen> could someone help me with a disk corruption problem? I happened after I installed a few packages this morning, now the partition seems to be hosed.
[19:19:42] <Tguen> Unfortunately, the repair util runs out of memory.
[19:19:50] <Tguen> Any other things I can try?
[19:20:33] <tojoko> can't u boot from cd and copy all files required to an usb stick?
[19:20:36] <Tguen> This is the second corruption in two months, there seems to be a serious problem
[19:20:48] <Tguen> tojoko: It is not possible to mount the partition anymore
[19:21:02] <tojoko> uhh
[19:21:05] <Tguen> I suspect some meta data got overwritten in the crash
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[19:22:24] <tojoko> maybe create a ticket? can u get any log files?
[19:22:55] <Tguen> No, nothing is accessible on the disk. Maybe someone can analyze the binary image (but it's a 250GB partition...)
[19:23:25] <Tguen> Since I cannot mount it, I don't know what can be done
[19:25:11] <tojoko> well, but u can turn it on and it will try to boot, no?
[19:25:40] <Tguen> nothing happens, the bios says no os is found. it's totally borked.
[19:26:06] <Tguen> i could boot and start recover once, then it got worse after it ran out of memory
[19:26:10] <tojoko> uhh - do u got an cd drive?
[19:26:17] <Tguen> sure
[19:26:34] <Tguen> that's where i tried to mount from (a live cd)
[19:27:24] <tojoko> well, i can't tell, but i would boot, hit space and try to boot from hd - and then the second time would try to get an log file (an additional usb key could be good).
[19:28:24] <Tguen> no, that doesn't work
[19:28:45] <Tguen> the partition table is clearly gone
[19:29:08] <Tguen> or some fundamental meta data
[19:29:22] <Tguen> disk doctor can't find any useful partition either
[19:29:28] <IIsi50MHz> Not necessarily, unless you have examined the raw disc and confirmed this.
[19:29:33] <IIsi50MHz> Norton Disk Doctor?
[19:29:50] <Tguen> a hexdump shows a lot of zeros near the beginning of the partition
[19:29:59] <Tguen> (more than the padding)
[19:30:51] <IIsi50MHz> Ok.
[19:31:03] <IIsi50MHz> I had a different problem, then.
[19:31:10] <Tguen> yeah? what was that?
[19:31:13] <Tguen> maybe it's related
[19:31:46] <tojoko> mhmm, don't do any worse. But if you got a second disk, u could make a copy of that disk. that's how forensics do it. and then fdisk /mbr try or somethin' like that.
[19:32:35] <IIsi50MHz> Bootloader was branching to Boynton Beach after Haiku upgrade.
[19:33:07] <IIsi50MHz> (The stage one bootloader was trying to branch to a wrong position on the disc when looking for the stage two bootloader, IIRC)
[19:33:43] <IIsi50MHz> Boynton Beach is home to Haiku, Inc. (-;
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[19:35:09] <IIsi50MHz> If your disc were formatted FAT, FAT32, or NTFS, I'd try PhotoRec or similar, on a copy of the disc, to try rebuilding the partition table.
[19:35:50] <Tguen> i last tried Haiku 6-7 years ago. Still unstable... browser is crap (video crashed mine), FS gets corrupt, my video card isn't support so I'm in some lame VESA mode, my wifi is not supported.
[19:35:57] <Tguen> pretty disappointed
[19:36:07] <IIsi50MHz> I haven't been bitten by BFS corruption in years, but still, I just use the Installer application within Haiku to clone everything to a USB stick.
[19:36:19] <Tguen> i see
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[19:36:27] <Begasus> re
[19:36:34] <Tguen> IIsi50MHz: i guess i've been unlucky
[19:36:35] <IIsi50MHz> regards
[19:38:25] <IIsi50MHz> And you are using a nightly image?
[19:40:07] <Tguen> yeah
[19:40:11] <IIsi50MHz> The neat/bad thing about running the Haiku Installer (which can only be done inside a running Haiku) is that it doesn't do a clean install; instead, it copies everything on the running system so it works as a backup system.
[19:40:23] <IIsi50MHz> It's bad only when you really want a clean install (:
[19:40:40] <Tguen> oh well
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[19:40:47] <Tguen> i had enough of haiku for now, maybe next year
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[19:40:57] <IIsi50MHz> That's understandable.
[19:41:04] <IIsi50MHz> Er...bye then.
[19:41:35] * IIsi50MHz returns to troubleshooting his current Win7 machine
[19:43:28] <IIsi50MHz> *mutter to self* Well, HD has a bad block...but lots of other errors in logs as well. All seem unrelated. Printer share failed, MacHAL.sys missing, attempt to share non-existent folder, failed to remove sharing entry for non-existent folder...
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[19:50:54] <Begasus> SOURCE_URI="https://mattdm.org/icebreaker/1.9.x/icebreaker-1.9.5.tgz" this one doesn't work due to the certificate?
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[20:07:11] <IIsi50MHz> Works in Opera v37.0.2178.43 - Windows 6.1 64-bit
[20:07:23] <IIsi50MHz> No complaint about certificate.
[20:07:37] <Begasus> try from terminal ...
[20:07:53] <Begasus> in qupzilla it also works without problems
[20:08:54] * IIsi50MHz watches his boot kluge do its thing on an olde Vaio laptop
[20:10:08] <Begasus> ~> wget --no-check-certificate https://mattdm.org/icebreaker/1.9.x/icebreaker-1.9.5.tgz (works)
[20:10:21] <Begasus> but how can I use that in a recipe?
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[20:12:18] <IIsi50MHz> I haven't worked with recipes. Sorry.
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[20:13:24] <Begasus> np ;)
[20:14:43] <IIsi50MHz> Wait...what? The last hrev I remember being able to boot on here is 47665.
[20:14:57] <IIsi50MHz> This says I'm on hrev49180.
[20:15:18] <IIsi50MHz> I vaguely remember trying to get that to work.
[20:15:46] <IIsi50MHz> So, the secret is to give up and leave it alone for a few months? :-D
[20:16:24] <IIsi50MHz> So, I'm only about a year behind on updates for this machine. Hehe
[20:16:29] <Begasus> hrev50326 here atm (just updated)
[20:17:31] <IIsi50MHz> WebPositive 1.1-alpha /-:
[20:18:51] <IIsi50MHz> And...it didn't parse cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/plain/docs/welcome/welcome_en.html instead dumping raw text
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[20:21:01] <IIsi50MHz> Blagh, one thing I don't like about loading browsers that haven't been run in a long while, especially on old Macs or Haiku: they auto-tragically delete the browsing history because it's too old.
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[20:21:25] <IIsi50MHz> But...I wanted to view that history to rediscover what I last did. )*:
[20:21:42] <Begasus> hehe
[20:22:08] <IIsi50MHz> Hmm, WebPositive Preferences show my history length as 35 days, but if I try to edit that the maximum I can save is 34 days.
[20:22:15] <IIsi50MHz> Anything else disables the Apply button.
[20:24:43] <IIsi50MHz> They really should have an additional check for keeping history: if the newest history entry is older than the maximum age setting, keep all history for the current session.
[20:25:25] <IIsi50MHz> And maybe save a backup of it?
[20:26:26] <IIsi50MHz> And warn the user when exiting maybe.
[20:29:11] <tojoko> can anybody give me an hint how to generate a disk for beos or haiku in oracle virtual machine? one to install to?
[20:29:48] <IIsi50MHz> Sorry, I run Haiku on the metal.
[20:30:26] <Begasus> same thing here, no vm here
[20:30:28] <tojoko> that doesn't work for me. it crashed all the time. nice to see at least one live user! :)
[20:31:21] <Begasus> but isn't there an image on haiku-os.org for vm?
[20:32:27] <tojoko> thanks. maybe i try that. but actually i'm lookin' for an virtual hard drive for beos since i'm switchin' back, since haiku is too buggy for me and gcc doesn't behave as expected.
[20:33:21] <IIsi50MHz> Try: In the VM manager, create a new VM with a blank disc image. Add a haiku nightly ISO to the VM and boot using this ISO. Run the Haiku Installer to install to the blank disc image.
[20:33:41] <IIsi50MHz> Or do the same thing with BeOS R5.
[20:33:58] <IIsi50MHz> Sorry, this is kind of vague for me.
[20:34:38] <IIsi50MHz> What is the problem with gcc?
[20:36:35] <IIsi50MHz> You can use it from Terminal with setarch to specify whether you want gcc2 or 4
[20:38:24] <IIsi50MHz> like: setarch x86_gcc2 gcc blahfooquxstuff
[20:38:38] <tojoko> IIsi50MHz, we are supposed to compile with gcc -g -Wall -std=c89 -pedantic -o hello hello.c a hello world program - and that already fails.
[20:38:44] <IIsi50MHz> or for gcc4: setarch x86 gcc blahfoobazstuff
[20:39:07] <tojoko> i can boot up haiku in vm as well as beos - but beos doesn't find any disk or a disk with size zero.
[20:39:08] <IIsi50MHz> Let me look at the last thing I was doing...
[20:40:21] <IIsi50MHz> For me: setarch x86 cc -g -std=c99 mycode.c mycode2.c -ledit -o mycode
[20:40:43] <IIsi50MHz> This works for compiling projects from the Build Your Own LISP tutorial.
[20:41:10] <tojoko> sorry, i'm afraid my english isn't good engough. by the way, we are supposed to code c, not lisp.
[20:41:24] <tojoko> and in beos it works just fine. ;)
[20:41:52] <IIsi50MHz> I know. I'm am just using this example. Because previously I was working on Build Your Own LISP. (:
[20:42:39] <mmu_man> could you just pastebin the error you get so we can see?
[20:43:33] <tojoko> wait till i had dinner.
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[20:44:15] <IIsi50MHz> (I wish IRCCloud still worked on Haiku; automatic pastebin when pasting into IRC.)
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[21:07:01] <HAIKU-irker564> haiku.master: mmu_man * hrev50327 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=836a14832190+%5Ea59423af8d58
[21:07:02] <HAIKU-irker564> 836a14832190: dev-perso: also check for lowercase todo[.org]
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[21:13:03] <bbjimmy> As you have included Catalog.h in the source, don't forget to add localestub to the LIBS section. What does localestub mean?
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[21:14:12] <bbjimmy> And is the localization in yab stable enough to be worth trying to make it work in yab?
[21:14:35] <bbjimmy> And is the localization in Haiku stable enough to be worth trying to make it work in yab?
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[21:16:29] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2831 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Failure [failed jam @minimum-raw] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/2831 blamelist: Fran?ois Revol <revol at free dot fr>
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[21:21:47] <tojoko> welcome back mmu_man
[21:22:40] <tojoko> i can't show u the problem, since i don't have it in the vm. on my notebook neither gcc works nor does touch. don't know if my installation is corrupt or that nightly. might be fixed by now.
[21:22:51] <tojoko> can anybody try a touch please?
[21:24:12] <mmu_man> /bin/touch ?
[21:24:49] <bbjimmy> works here
[21:25:00] <tojoko> ok, thanks, it's my installation then.
[21:25:03] <mmu_man> why wouldn't it work?
[21:25:06] <mmu_man> what's the error you get?
[21:25:09] <mmu_man> ohhh, wait
[21:25:16] <mmu_man> you're not trying to create files in /, are you?
[21:25:34] <tojoko> mmu_man, well, i would need to reboot. - no, i think it was in desktop or so.
[21:25:40] <mmu_man> / is a virtual fs in-memory that doesn't allow creating regular files
[21:26:02] <tojoko> ok, thanks, good to know, but it wasn't.
[21:26:06] <mmu_man> ~> touch /foo
[21:26:07] <mmu_man> touch: setting times of '/foo': No such file or directory
[21:26:07] <mmu_man> ~> touch foo
[21:26:07] <mmu_man> ~> pwd
[21:26:07] <mmu_man> /boot/home
[21:27:10] <IIsi50MHz> "pwd" to me always looks like "password" at first
[21:27:15] <IIsi50MHz> >.<
[21:29:27] <tojoko> ahh, if experts are around, have u read that? https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/12006 ahh, it's closed. that's the reason why it doesn't show up anymore?
[21:31:19] <mmu_man> probbaly
[21:31:45] <tojoko> but it's so importand (to me) :)
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[21:33:22] <mmu_man> marked as fixed...
[21:33:41] <tojoko> yes - but i have the card and it doesn't work.
[21:34:46] <tojoko> and why isn't https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/12407 closed as well?
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[21:38:23] <tojoko> mmu_man, gcc doesn't give me any error now.
[21:38:31] <tojoko> touch works as well ...
[21:38:52] <mmu_man> sure you weren't in / or something?
[21:38:57] <IIsi50MHz> TUBbrain, at work somebody's been using pilots' alphabet on the phone recently, and at first I read your nick as Tango Uniform Bravo Brain :-D
[21:39:13] <tojoko> mmu_man, could be.
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[22:04:45] <tojoko> can anybody tell me where the rsa keys for git are stored in haiku?
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[22:04:58] <HAIKU-irker564> haiku.master: anevilyak * hrev50328 [3 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=20df96b029ae+%5E836a14832190
[22:04:59] <HAIKU-irker564> 880a646413bb: Debugger: Cleanup.
[22:05:00] <HAIKU-irker564> ec60909a20fb: Debugger: Reorganize settings classes.
[22:05:01] <HAIKU-irker564> 20df96b029ae: Debugger: Relocate value_handlers.
[22:05:20] <mmu_man> hmm check ~/config/settings/git/
[22:05:31] <mmu_man> and /system/settings/gitconfig
[22:05:43] <mmu_man> or you mean ssh ?
[22:05:46] <mmu_man> hmm check ~/config/settings/ssh/
[22:06:59] <tojoko> well normaly it's cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
[22:10:01] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2832 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/2832
[22:11:17] <HAIKU-irker564> haiku.master: bonefish * hrev50329 [7 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6c06458f8aac+%5E20df96b029ae
[22:11:18] <HAIKU-irker564> a689b8f22ea2: kernel: team_create_thread_start_internal(): Set text_delta
[22:11:19] <HAIKU-irker564> 22224d83ad0a: Debugger: ElfSymbolLookup: Support specifying the symbol count
[22:11:20] <HAIKU-irker564> 2c50fbb8e161: Debugger: ElfFile: Provide access to symbol sections
[22:11:21] <HAIKU-irker564> 90f571868ea5: kernel: Add elf_read_kernel_image_symbols()
[22:11:22] <HAIKU-irker564> c60453fd79d1: Core dump: Add symbols for commpage to core file
[22:11:23] <HAIKU-irker564> e07597abd9c5: Debugger: CoreFile: Load (commpage) symbols
[22:11:24] <HAIKU-irker564> 6c06458f8aac: Debugger: CoreFileDebuggerInterface: Finish symbol support
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[22:11:40] <tojoko> they are in boot/system/settings/ssh - i hope they are unique.
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[22:15:24] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2833 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Failure [failed configure build] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/2833 blamelist: Rene Gollent <rene at gollent dot com>
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[22:19:18] <mmu_man> tojoko: Haiku tries not to use dotfiles
[22:19:35] <mmu_man> most apps are fixed to use ~/config/settings/$appname instead
[22:19:57] <mmu_man> it's possible you still have stuff at the old location and the app got fixed and doesn't pick it up anymore
[22:20:08] <tojoko> ah, ok thanks. for some reason it didn't work.
[22:20:20] <mmu_man> someone should probably write a little helper script to help merge old settingsz
[22:20:29] <mmu_man> *3rdparty* *opportunity*
[22:22:33] <tojoko> i'd love, but neither have time nor knowledge nor do i understand what would be expected.
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[22:28:26] <tojoko> but u could write a to do list or a ticket. :)
[22:30:36] <HAIKU-irker564> waddlesplash-github.mandelbrot_new: [1 commit] https://github.com/waddlesplash/haiku/compare/d21792673e59
[22:30:37] <HAIKU-irker564> d21792673e59: Mandelbrot: Scrap the old app, initial workings of a new one.
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[22:32:51] <waddlesplash> and there it is
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[22:39:18] <tojoko> good n8
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[23:01:47] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2834 of haiku-master-x86_gcc2 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-master-x86_gcc2/builds/2834
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[23:08:26] <IIsi50MHz> Bienvenue, HaikuUser. New user, or just a new install?
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[23:09:05] <HaikuUser> running in a vm on my mother-in-law's computer
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[23:10:37] <IIsi50MHz> Aww: "Once I moved like the wind through executable code on my Mac. Now I can only send messages to opaque objects, and that is all." --basalgangster at macGUI dot com
[23:10:39] <bbjimmy1> She uses it just to play noose
[23:10:59] <IIsi50MHz> Noose?
[23:11:24] <bbjimmy1> see http://fatelk.com/repo/packages
[23:11:42] <bbjimmy1> A hangman game I programmed.
[23:11:51] <bbjimmy1> in yab
[23:11:55] <IIsi50MHz> Ah.
[23:12:01] <mmu_man> what, you don't like playing hangman in KDL?
[23:12:06] <mmu_man> reminds me I have to fix it
[23:12:31] <bbjimmy1> :-P
[23:12:51] <IIsi50MHz> "You don't like my cooking? Reminds me, I haven't made dinner..." :-D
[23:13:31] <IIsi50MHz> KDL needs mouse support and windowing, like TMON (^:
[23:13:59] * IIsi50MHz is reading about crazy things crammed into hardly any bytes
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[23:26:43] <eschatologist> IIsi50MHz: TMON? I think you mean The Debugger. ;)
[23:27:21] <IIsi50MHz> http://basalgangster.macgui.com/RetroMacComputing/The_Long_View/Entries/2010/3/27_TMON.html
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[23:33:45] <mmu_man> or tmux
[23:33:48] <mmu_man> does it support mouse?
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[23:41:14] <bbjimmy1> how to re-generate CA certificates in Haiku?
[23:41:37] <bbjimmy1> I can't ssh or even load haiku-os.org
[23:42:14] <bbjimmy1> error: SSL certificate problem: certificate is not yet valid
[23:43:43] <bbjimmy1> never mind, I had to set the time
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[23:45:42] <mmu_man> https://github.com/libgit2/libgit2/pull/3796
[23:45:45] <mmu_man> one more thing ported :)
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[23:59:37] <cc^mint> Haiku!
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