May 17, 2016 
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May 17, 2016 [00:06:04] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[00:06:09] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[00:11:33] *** vdamewood has quit IRC[00:12:44] *** paianni has quit IRC[00:14:25] <Not-b880> [haikuports] waddlesplash closed pull request #597: mc: bump to 4.8.17. - https://git.io/vrcv9[00:14:27] <Not-b880> [haikuports] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://git.io/vrcUk[00:14:28] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson 5027459 - mc: bump to 4.8.17. (#597)[00:21:26] *** vdamewood has joined #haiku[00:31:11] *** kolton has quit IRC[00:53:17] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[00:53:50] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[01:00:45] *** vdamewood has quit IRC[01:02:43] *** vidrep has joined #haiku[01:05:17] <Barrett> hi vidrep[01:05:29] <vidrep> Hi Barrett[01:06:03] <vidrep> Spent most of my day playing with recipe building[01:06:28] <vidrep> How about you?[01:09:53] <Barrett> I'm getting into actually finish to fix the BMediaFile infrastructure[01:10:42] <Barrett> I'm preparing a little test commandline app too[01:10:53] <Barrett> so I can be sure everything is set up as well[01:11:35] <Barrett> I've still not get into including live555 in Haiku and I'm not 100% sure this will happen[01:12:49] <Barrett> main problem I'm thinking of is how the plugins should provide a configuration view[01:12:56] <Barrett> actually only decoders are providing it[01:13:14] <Barrett> that's obviously a missing feature[01:13:34] <vidrep> What is the best way for a non-coder to help the project?[01:14:28] <vidrep> Building and testing apps in Haikuports is a little "helter skelter"[01:15:19] <vidrep> How important is it to have the latest revision of any particular app, lib or whatever?[01:15:25] <Barrett> I guess you can go to holliwood and see if Johnny Depp want to help us : p[01:15:48] <Barrett> seriously, I think maintaining haikuports and fixing bugs is of great help[01:16:12] <Barrett> vidrep, that depends on the lib[01:16:19] <vidrep> I can report bus. But, fixing is another matter.[01:16:25] <vidrep> bugs[01:17:51] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[01:18:07] <Barrett> vidrep, not all issues are hard[01:18:42] <Barrett> for example you can grep the recipes for $developDir/lib and replace it with $developLibDir[01:18:50] <vidrep> example: PDFTranslator is using mupdf, which has been updated to version 1.9a (currently Haiku is using 1.7)[01:18:53] <Barrett> that's already a great improvement[01:20:23] <Barrett> I suggest to learn things step by step[01:20:56] <Barrett> my first patch to Haiku was to add the "Open Network Preferences" menu in the network replicant :-)[01:24:52] <vidrep> You say there are problems with live555?[01:26:27] <Barrett> no it's that I have the curl code for testing and I can in future move the glue to live555[01:27:09] <Barrett> the live555 isn't like other libs, it's usually provided as static lib[01:27:21] <Barrett> so I guess it will have just a _devel package[01:27:35] <Barrett> but I have to ask about more expert opinions[01:28:44] <vidrep> I guess PulkoMandy is still busy with his move, and his job[01:29:37] <vidrep> Usually when he gets involved good stuff happens[01:43:48] <Barrett> vidrep, have you considered contributing to the Haiku doc?[01:44:03] <Barrett> I guess we have no problem in giving you access permission on the site[01:44:21] <vidrep> Doing what exactly?[01:44:36] <Barrett> haiku guides get obsolete soon usually[01:44:56] <Barrett> I've heard of some being removed for this reason[01:47:26] <vidrep> I imagine it's hard to keep up with everything - documentation, hardware drivers, apps etc etc[01:47:52] <vidrep> Actually I know it[01:50:30] <Barrett> I'm displeased I lost a P4 motherboard + cpu I had[01:50:43] <Barrett> I don't have a slow hardware to test the media_kit[01:51:02] <Barrett> and I feel taking a P3 or a Celeron is way too old[01:51:28] <vidrep> How amny people are going to use that kind of hardware these days?[01:51:31] <vidrep> many[01:52:20] <vidrep> I actually went looking for a PIII to install BeOS and couldn't find one anywhere[01:52:57] <vidrep> I had a nice dual PIII system, which I sent to the recyclers about a year ago[01:53:07] <Barrett> I have a few in the cellar[01:53:25] <Barrett> I have also a 386 mb + cpu :-D[01:53:50] <Barrett> that's something archaic, it still has some wire to connect certain chips[01:53:58] <vidrep> I used to triple boot BeOS Pro, BeOS Dano, and Zeta on that system[01:54:14] *** cc^mint has joined #haiku[01:54:19] <cc^mint> Hello![01:54:21] <Barrett> also I lost my collection of CPUs : ([01:54:28] <cc^mint> yeah[01:54:44] <Barrett> I had strange things such as an IBM 486[01:55:02] <Barrett> hope they are still somewhere[01:55:12] <Barrett> hi cc^mint[01:55:29] <Barrett> vidrep, I think for BeOS/Zeta a P4 is perfect[01:56:10] <vidrep> How useful is that old equipment to your MediaKit endeavors?[01:56:21] *** swift110 has joined #haiku[01:56:26] <cc^mint> swift![01:56:38] <vidrep> BeOS wouldn't run on a P4 unless it was patched[01:56:38] <cc^mint> How far is the development of Haiku/BeOS?[01:56:58] <Barrett> if I still had that P4 mobo I could have put it just to do recordings[01:57:35] <Barrett> and being a slow (but not so much) CPU could have allowed me to fine tune the sw[01:57:55] *** nighty has quit IRC[01:58:05] <Barrett> cc^mint, we are feature complete[01:58:05] <cc^mint> I'm using Linux & BSD.[01:58:09] <cc^mint> hm[01:58:13] <Barrett> we need some work on packages to put the beta[01:58:26] <cc^mint> You're working on BeOS?[01:58:26] <Barrett> to provide reliable updates to users[01:58:28] *** nighty has joined #haiku[01:58:36] <cc^mint> hmm[01:58:40] <cc^mint> nighty![01:58:55] <Barrett> cc^mint, I'm working on Haiku[01:59:03] <vidrep> cc^mint, we're not Ubuntu yet[01:59:17] <cc^mint> But I heard BeOS is similar to Unices and Linux in some ways.[01:59:19] <Carl_Miller> Barrett: Would it be out of the question to push an alpha 5 first, now that you're feature-complete, or would that lead to overfragmentation of the userbase?[01:59:28] <cc^mint> yes, I know[01:59:31] <Carl_Miller> cc^mint: So is Mac OS X, but it's neither of those things[01:59:34] <cc^mint> OpenBeOS/Haiku[01:59:44] *** swift110 has quit IRC[01:59:44] *** swift110 has joined #haiku[01:59:52] <vidrep> Windows, mac, Linus, BSD then Haiku[01:59:58] <vidrep> Linux[01:59:58] <cc^mint> I've been watching the development of BeOS and then Zeta for a while.[02:00:12] <cc^mint> hm[02:00:32] <Barrett> Carl_Miller, keep in mind mine is just an hopinion and I can't talk for everyone, but I think at this point an alpha5 is really out of scope[02:00:35] <cc^mint> OS X is a bit of BSD and then Darwin.[02:00:41] <Barrett> we all want to get an R1[02:01:19] <Carl_Miller> Barrett: fair enough[02:02:10] <cc^mint> But do you think Haiku then could compete against Windows, OS X, Linux and the other Unices? *g*[02:02:48] <vidrep> Personally, I think alpha 5 would be appropriate, if only for the sake of exposure[02:02:53] <Carl_Miller> Wait people still use *g* instead of :D in 2016[02:02:53] <Carl_Miller> :o[02:03:27] <jessicah> cc^mint: compete? no, not at this stage[02:03:42] <jessicah> we don't have a good office suite, and our browser isn't quite up to date enough[02:03:57] <jessicah> and heck, even google maps exhausts ports in app_server[02:04:10] <swift110> hey jessicah[02:04:18] <Carl_Miller> jessicah: hi[02:04:21] <jessicah> having the system die from using google maps definitely isn't ideal[02:04:23] <jessicah> hihi[02:04:25] <Carl_Miller> :([02:05:38] <vidrep> Let's just say Haiku is in a usable state, but not quite ready for prime time just yet[02:05:39] <jessicah> at least we'll have akshay working on usb3 support in a couple weeks time[02:05:43] <Carl_Miller> vidrep++[02:05:44] <Carl_Miller> I wonder what our best bet is re: an office suite... would it be worth it to port LibreOffice or something, or are we better off rolling our own?[02:06:00] <jessicah> porting LibreOffice would be the way to go[02:06:03] <Carl_Miller> OK[02:06:05] <Barrett> +1[02:06:17] <jessicah> a native port isn't so unrealistic[02:06:23] <cc^mint> LibreOffice is worth a lot.[02:06:33] <swift110> yes it is[02:06:34] <Carl_Miller> It'd also be nice to have a port of WINE (which I propose calling SAKE), but I imagine that's low-priority[02:06:34] <jessicah> first thing is getting dependent libraries ported[02:06:42] <cc^mint> hm[02:06:53] <jessicah> cairo is probably one of the bigger ones there[02:06:58] <cc^mint> lol[02:06:59] <swift110> what would it take to port libreoffice to haiku[02:07:20] <jessicah> and then there's the c++ bindings to cairo[02:07:36] <vidrep> I was asking waddlesplash about the contract, but he wasn't sure it was still a go[02:07:39] <HAIKU-irker776> haiku.master: barrett * hrev50321 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=51c8ec34d00a+%5E21cf69c709b6[02:07:40] <HAIKU-irker776> 6646363eba7b: MediaExtractor: The source is always owned by BMediaFile[02:07:41] <HAIKU-irker776> 51c8ec34d00a: MediaKit and MediaPlayer Style Fixes[02:07:44] <jessicah> then there's also porting of the UNO stuff[02:07:44] <Carl_Miller> vidrep: "contract"?[02:08:07] <vidrep> akshay - USB[02:08:20] <jessicah> no, that's still going ahead[02:08:34] <jessicah> it's just that by the time a decision was made, he couldn't start it until June[02:08:48] <vidrep> Hoiw long?[02:08:58] <jessicah> how long does it go for? I don't know[02:09:11] <Carl_Miller> ???[02:11:14] <jessicah> there's also all the various bugs in Boost that need addressing[02:11:37] <Barrett> if we had cairo then also a ff port would be possible[02:11:40] <jessicah> lots of stuff there that doesn't work correctly[02:11:56] <Barrett> (I think it was this way in 2008)[02:13:18] <vidrep> I could make a long list of stuff that doesn't work correctly. On the other hand, a lot does work very well indeed.[02:13:35] <jessicah> :p[02:13:48] <jessicah> well, addressing the issues in boost would be good...[02:14:07] <vidrep> I boot into Alpha 4 often enough to see that we're way ahead[02:16:05] <cc^mint> hm[02:16:16] <cc^mint> But you also like Linux and BSD?[02:16:20] <cc^mint> And Solaris?[02:16:32] <Carl_Miller> cc^mint: Maybe, why?[02:16:34] <cc^mint> Then you could discuss with the Distrowatch.com-Team! :-D[02:16:49] <Carl_Miller> Man, bump advertising[02:17:07] <cc^mint> lol[02:17:11] <vidrep> I've used them, but didn't particularly like them[02:17:15] <cc^mint> Advertising is very important![02:17:38] <Carl_Miller> :|[02:17:47] <cc^mint> Years ago I saw a car with "Zeta" from yellowTAB.[02:18:15] <Barrett> a car?[02:18:19] <cc^mint> yes[02:18:21] <vidrep> Getting a alpha, beta or whatever out there for review is the best kind of advertising[02:18:47] <cc^mint> From the company representing Zeta, but it was stopped by law reasons.[02:19:03] <cc^mint> legal trouble[02:20:38] * Barrett should add a playurl commandline utility[02:20:52] <Barrett> let's see in future[02:22:01] <vidrep> In MP? Open file...Open URL...[02:22:36] <cc^mint> It was Bernd Korz.[02:22:45] <Barrett> yes of course, but having a commandline utility is useful for testing[02:22:53] <cc^mint> He launched Zeta but there were many legal issues.[02:23:11] <vidrep> Maybe MP could use Youtube-dl the way it's used by UberTuber[02:23:42] <Barrett> it's place for the plugin API[02:24:02] <Barrett> the only thing I can do is to finish the HTTP streamer[02:24:21] <Barrett> so the plugin can pass the url directly instead to download the file[02:26:09] <vidrep> There's so much yet to be implemented - DVD playback, streaming media, subtitles etc[02:26:52] <Barrett> live555 seems to have facilities for VOB[02:27:10] <Barrett> while they will need additional support I guess[02:27:24] <Barrett> I'm aiming at having RTSP support right now[02:28:00] <Barrett> and also, we need anyway a VOB decoder[02:28:42] <Barrett> vidrep, the mp plugin API is very important and has priority after streaming[02:28:52] *** carlosXP has joined #haiku[02:29:02] <carlosXP> Hi folk[02:29:20] <carlosXP> where i can download the web server for haiku?[02:29:26] <carlosXP> apache+php+mysql[02:29:36] <carlosXP> i wish try it (if possible)[02:31:25] <Barrett> carlosXP, https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/tree/master/www-servers/apache[02:31:35] <Barrett> this is an haikuporter recipe[02:32:07] <carlosXP> mmm recipe[02:33:07] <carlosXP> i'm not sure[02:33:26] <carlosXP> this is instructions to compile/make/port the software to haiku?[02:33:57] <carlosXP> this require programming knowledge?[02:36:51] <Barrett> carlosXP, haikuporter will do it for you[02:36:54] <carlosXP> i think haiku have already a hamp (haiku+apache+mysql+php) package to start a local web server at least, i'm not sure[02:37:03] <carlosXP> haikuporter? o_O[02:37:13] <Barrett> it's just that such big recipes can become broken[02:37:24] <Barrett> but you can try with haikuporter apache[02:37:39] <carlosXP> ummm[02:37:45] <carlosXP> sound good[02:37:46] <Barrett> https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/wiki[02:37:53] <vidrep> git clone https://github.com/haikuports/haikuporter.git[02:39:01] <vidrep> Once you install haikuporter and haikuports you can build the recipe[02:39:03] <carlosXP> ummm[02:39:27] <carlosXP> so i can try build a recent ffmpeg with a recipe?[02:39:45] <carlosXP> i guess this is a good one to start[02:40:06] <Barrett> carlosXP, yes but there are unofficial repos around[02:40:14] <Barrett> I guess you can find ffmpeg ther[02:40:17] <vidrep> Haiku is already using ffmpeg[02:40:20] <Barrett> but feel free to play and report problems[02:40:47] <vidrep> What version of haiku do you plan to run?[02:40:48] <Barrett> anyway to have a recent ffmpeg you can just use a gcc4h Haiku[02:40:53] <carlosXP> vidrep: yeah, but is to learn to use haiku recipes :P[02:41:03] <Barrett> (gcc2 programs can use only the older)[02:41:54] <carlosXP> vidrep: a nightly build rev50318-x86_gcc2[02:42:13] <vidrep> Good choice[02:42:40] <vidrep> 64 bit is a bit of a mess at the moment[02:42:51] <carlosXP> really i hate learn the linux things where you need every time build software from src[02:43:06] <carlosXP> but haiku looks as a really good os :)[02:43:11] <vidrep> x86_gcc2 is the "official" supported Haiku[02:43:20] <carlosXP> yeah vidrep[02:43:36] <Barrett> carlosXP, we are in need to set up the automatic building infrastructure[02:43:45] <carlosXP> also, imho is better a x86[02:43:50] <Barrett> that is also the only beta missing "feature"[02:44:10] <carlosXP> hoh cool :)[02:45:09] <carlosXP> so, i think a x86 os only make the os bloated (like windows x64) :P[02:45:58] <carlosXP> ups, a x64* ;P[02:47:10] <Barrett> one day i will decide to switch x86_64[02:47:41] <Barrett> but that will not happen until the beta, i already suffered too much of being an early gcc4 user :-D[02:48:06] <carlosXP> hehe[02:48:54] <carlosXP> btw the bete will be more "usable" than current nighly?[02:49:50] <carlosXP> like web positive[02:49:56] <carlosXP> this is really cool[02:50:11] <carlosXP> but is not 100% functional[02:50:21] <vidrep> If you're going to wait for the beta, you might have a long wait[02:50:39] <carlosXP> hehe i see[02:51:01] <vidrep> Use the nightlies and report back on any issues or even enhancements[02:51:04] <carlosXP> np, i'm waiting even reactos beta hehe[02:51:53] <Barrett> reactos isn't worth to wait IMHO[02:52:16] <carlosXP> hehe i understand[02:52:34] <Barrett> I think they should have used linux on top of a windows-like userland[02:53:09] <carlosXP> pew[02:53:20] <carlosXP> my gosh, nope Barret :([02:53:41] <carlosXP> something like ZorinOS? xD[02:53:53] <carlosXP> but many of its developers have good expectations on reactos :)[02:53:54] <Barrett> Haiku has tons of stuff to be finished, but it's foundation is working as well[02:54:10] <Barrett> I've got surprised to see that using two programs at the same time in reactos is a pain[02:54:23] <Barrett> that means their fundation isn't mature[02:54:54] <Barrett> yeah I liked the idea, same as AROS and Syllable[02:55:05] <carlosXP> well, at least the last year the proyect is moving more[02:55:07] <Barrett> but Haiku is beyond[02:55:30] <Barrett> originally it was the worse of the three but recovered a lot of steps and finally surpassed[02:55:31] <carlosXP> Syllable looks nice[02:55:35] <cc^mint> yeah[02:55:59] <carlosXP> i love the haiku raw image on my pendrive hehe[02:56:21] <carlosXP> is the best fucking thing I've seen[02:56:44] <carlosXP> (reactos not boot from usb at moment) ;P[02:56:51] <Barrett> BTW It's a long time I aim at making an ai_kit :-D[02:57:00] <Barrett> (artificial intelligence API for Haiku)[02:57:06] <carlosXP> hoho[02:57:16] <Barrett> maybe after the summer, who know[02:57:25] <carlosXP> ok ok[02:57:33] <carlosXP> let me boot now on haiku[02:57:56] <Barrett> it would be nice to have vetor state machines and multilayer perceptrons ready to use[02:58:25] *** carlosXP has quit IRC[02:58:49] <Barrett> originally I planned to do it for audio processing[02:59:13] <Barrett> black-box emulation of sounds based on samples[03:00:09] <Barrett> vidrep, how's going with your job?[03:00:14] *** swift110 has quit IRC[03:01:35] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[03:01:45] <vidrep> I was laid off at the end of March.[03:01:58] <HaikuUser> ok[03:02:02] *** HaikuUser is now known as carlosXP[03:02:13] <Barrett> yeah I know, I meant if you had luck in finding a new one[03:02:20] *** mixomathoze has quit IRC[03:02:26] <carlosXP> weird, now haiku boot with smaller resolution[03:02:27] <vidrep> However, (funny you should ask) my boss called me this afternonn to let me know I'll be back in 2 weeks[03:02:51] <Barrett> lol fine[03:03:02] <carlosXP> so i change manually the resolution :P[03:03:26] <carlosXP> how i can "dock" a tabs?[03:03:27] <vidrep> What video card?[03:03:39] <Barrett> carlosXP, stack&tile?[03:03:43] <carlosXP> yeah[03:03:55] <carlosXP> ctrl+something??[03:03:56] <Barrett> press fn and move the windows over[03:04:06] <carlosXP> oh oh[03:04:16] <carlosXP> cool![03:04:21] <Barrett> :-)[03:04:27] <carlosXP> a beauty and usefull feature :)[03:04:44] <carlosXP> so my gfx[03:04:58] <carlosXP> umm is the mobo :P[03:05:07] <carlosXP> how i can see this detail here?[03:05:11] <Barrett> it's another of my TODOs, it would be nice to have a public API so that apps can do this automatically[03:05:18] <carlosXP> gpu-z haiku? ;P[03:05:29] <Barrett> Devices app?[03:05:54] <carlosXP> ah ah[03:05:57] <carlosXP> heh sorry :P[03:06:01] <carlosXP> good again! :D[03:06:36] <Barrett> if you find an utility missing feel free to do an haikuporter reciper for it : p[03:06:36] <vidrep> First time using Haiku?[03:07:04] <carlosXP> nope[03:07:11] <carlosXP> i try this sometimes[03:07:28] <carlosXP> but is really good :)[03:07:33] <vidrep> There are lots of hidden features[03:08:16] <carlosXP> umm a detail[03:08:23] <carlosXP> the irc client[03:08:46] <carlosXP> i can't delete words with alt+del or alt+supr[03:09:37] *** mixomathoze has joined #haiku[03:09:51] *** ThunderBlade has quit IRC[03:11:09] <vidrep> Time to go[03:11:18] <vidrep> Back later[03:11:42] *** vidrep has quit IRC[03:12:58] <carlosXP> Screen Driver: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller[03:14:35] <carlosXP> lol what??[03:15:15] <carlosXP> if minimize "Devices" and "Vision", both docket[03:15:33] <carlosXP> and i open Vision from tracker[03:15:40] <carlosXP> this open Vision[03:15:47] <carlosXP> and viseverse :P[03:16:23] <carlosXP> wops[03:16:51] <carlosXP> *if i open from tracker Vision, this focus Devices[03:16:56] <Barrett> it should open both[03:17:01] <carlosXP> yeah[03:17:08] <carlosXP> but the focus i think is no correct[03:17:24] <Barrett> if there's not one, open a ticket[03:17:43] <carlosXP> oke doke[03:17:47] <carlosXP> btw[03:18:01] <carlosXP> haiku have some tool to capture the screen as gif? :P[03:18:24] <carlosXP> i like use this type tool to report things :)[03:20:20] *** ThunderBlade has joined #haiku[03:20:45] *** ThunderBlade is now known as kushalsingh007[03:22:14] <Barrett> https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/software/bsd-mac-os-x-hurd-others/849260-haiku-os-powered-by-bsd-it-s-a-possibility[03:22:36] <Barrett> carlosXP, just use the print button[03:22:46] <Barrett> it will save in png[03:22:55] <carlosXP> hehe yeah[03:23:11] <carlosXP> but gif are good to show small examples :P[03:23:13] <carlosXP> but ok np[03:24:46] <carlosXP> ok[03:25:11] <carlosXP> link to make a ticket?[03:25:12] <carlosXP> please[03:26:40] <carlosXP> umm[03:27:01] <carlosXP> i guess ctrl+print make a screenshot of current focus window no?[03:27:38] <carlosXP> i can see "screenshot" on tracket by a small moment, but i can't save it[03:28:53] <Barrett> carlosXP, you can easily convert the image then[03:29:04] <carlosXP> how?[03:29:04] <Barrett> dev.haiku-os.org[03:37:27] *** kushalsingh007 has quit IRC[03:37:28] <Barrett> carlosXP, with Wonderbrush[03:40:17] <carlosXP> already installed?[03:40:29] <Barrett> no use Haikudepot[03:43:47] <carlosXP> heh[03:43:58] <carlosXP> haiku depot have php 5.6[03:44:16] <carlosXP> i'm not sure, but even apache?[03:44:33] <carlosXP> i can't see mysql hehe :P[03:44:48] <Barrett> for mysql there's a recipe[03:44:56] <Barrett> I doubt there will be an apache package soon[03:45:06] <Barrett> anyway going to sleep, bye[03:45:09] <carlosXP> heh lets try with mysql then :D[03:45:11] <carlosXP> so[03:45:18] <Barrett> good luck![03:45:19] <carlosXP> first i need download mysql src?[03:45:27] <Barrett> no it's done automatically[03:45:32] <carlosXP> hoh[03:45:40] <Barrett> see the haikuports wiki[03:45:44] <Barrett> and follow the instructions[03:45:54] <carlosXP> btw[03:46:06] <carlosXP> i can make port from windows?[03:46:15] <Barrett> I don't think so[03:46:26] <carlosXP> heh well np[03:46:31] <carlosXP> anyway[03:46:40] <carlosXP> so haiku have all to make the work?[03:46:43] <Barrett> it's even better to run Haiku in vm[03:46:58] <Barrett> yep, haikuporter should also download dependencies[03:47:12] <Barrett> it's not a very simple tool, but neither too much complex[03:49:18] <Barrett> carlosXP, yes[03:49:32] <Barrett> Haiku is a complete modern os[03:49:47] *** Barrett has quit IRC[03:56:42] *** Negr0 has quit IRC[03:59:51] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2642 of haiku-repository-x86_hybrid is complete: Failure [failed upload repository] Build details are at http://buildbot.haiku-os.org/builders/haiku-repository-x86_hybrid/builds/2642 blamelist: Dario Casalinuovo <b.vitruvio at gmail dot com>[04:17:54] *** carlosXP has quit IRC[04:28:01] *** ppisati has quit IRC[04:39:43] *** Nach0z_ has joined #haiku[04:43:16] *** Nach0z has quit IRC[04:49:42] *** Nach0z_ is now known as Nach0z[05:11:42] *** cc^mint has quit IRC[05:51:09] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[06:04:25] *** DKnoto has joined #haiku[06:41:08] *** Nothing_Much has joined #haiku[06:43:35] *** kushalsingh007 has joined #haiku[06:45:28] *** ii-v has joined #haiku[06:48:31] *** kushalsingh007 has quit IRC[06:49:56] *** kushalsingh007 has joined #haiku[07:03:16] *** ii-v has quit IRC[07:04:01] *** ii-v has joined #haiku[07:27:33] *** ii-v has quit IRC[08:23:09] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[08:29:04] *** axeld has joined #haiku[08:29:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[08:36:04] *** DKnoto has joined #haiku[08:40:10] *** kushalsingh007 has quit IRC[08:41:17] *** kushalsingh007 has joined #haiku[08:42:23] *** kushalsingh007 has quit IRC[08:42:47] *** kushalsingh007 has joined #haiku[08:49:27] *** jjido has joined #haiku[08:52:56] <arfonzo> ahoy, friends![08:54:06] <arfonzo> I've been out of haiku for a while. Just rolled off site from a terrible contract, which means I have a chance to get back into haiku. I've loaded up a nightly image onto my VM, however I am unable to change any screen resolutions, a pop up error: "The screen mode could not be set: General system error". Anyone have any insight on this one?[08:56:20] <jessicah> if you have intel graphics, kallisti has been working on that quite a bit[08:56:35] <jessicah> and there's still a lot of work to be done on it[08:58:25] <jessicah> definitely file a ticket though, so that he knows about it :)[08:59:53] *** jjido has quit IRC[09:03:49] <arfonzo> thanks jessicah (nice to see you still around :)[09:04:01] <arfonzo> I'm using virtualbox... so I guess that is intel graphics IIRC[09:06:33] <jessicah> oh, virtualbox?[09:06:49] <jessicah> uh, I think you have to set custom video modes in the settings file from command line[09:06:57] *** GeneralDuke has joined #haiku[09:08:10] *** PaSaSaP has quit IRC[09:12:34] <arfonzo> I did set those customvideomodes, but it seemed unable to switch resolutions to even standard ones like 1024x768, 640x480[09:12:54] <arfonzo> tho, I've now pkgman installed the vbox guest additions, and on rebooting it does work now.[09:14:09] *** stippi has joined #haiku[09:14:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[09:18:55] *** stippi has quit IRC[09:26:47] <FlyingJester> Qemu is really best.[09:26:52] <FlyingJester> Or just bare metal :P[09:28:00] *** jjido has joined #haiku[09:29:00] *** ppisati has joined #haiku[09:29:13] *** ppisati has quit IRC[09:36:33] *** jjido has quit IRC[09:38:45] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[09:39:23] *** Akuji has quit IRC[09:39:58] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[09:40:28] *** ppisati has joined #haiku[09:41:13] <arfonzo> hm, I'm trying the latest rdesktop in haikuports, and it seems that lib:libcrypto isn't properly defined in the recipe there (or the openssl package doesn't fulfil it properly), error message: problem 1: nothing provides lib:libcrypto>=1.0.0s needed by rdesktop-1.8.0-2[09:41:29] <arfonzo> or, have I missed something here?[09:41:47] <jessicah> probably needs to be repackaged[09:42:19] <jessicah> openssl versioning was fixed some time ago[09:42:21] <arfonzo> jessicah: rdesktop, or openssl?[09:42:26] <jessicah> but I doubt rdesktop ever got updated[09:42:31] <arfonzo> ah, ok.[09:43:31] <arfonzo> if I can remember how to pull the rdesktop sources and update the package... maybe I will try to do that. It has been a long time since I delved into Haiku tho, maybe a year... for shame.[09:44:47] <arfonzo> I should probably re-read those gentle haikuporter guides I wrote, if they're still valid... seems they are being mirrored/uploaded to all kinds of various sites tho, so I guess it's somewhat valid.[09:50:44] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[09:58:02] *** ppisati has joined #haiku[09:58:07] *** DKnoto_W has joined #haiku[10:01:22] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[10:06:16] *** Nothing_Much has quit IRC[10:12:13] *** GeneralDuke has quit IRC[10:13:42] *** GeneralDuke has joined #haiku[10:22:09] *** BrunoSpr has joined #haiku[10:22:51] *** Selth has joined #haiku[10:23:10] *** Negr0 has joined #haiku[10:26:58] *** ii-v has joined #haiku[10:27:31] *** tojoko has joined #haiku[10:30:48] *** BrunoSpr has quit IRC[10:35:46] *** stippi has joined #haiku[10:35:46] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[10:35:59] *** gouchi has joined #haiku[10:50:35] *** Negr0 has quit IRC[11:02:47] <axeld> arfonzo: VirtualBox is using the plain VESA driver. And once you defined the custom modes, it'll work out of the box. There is no need to install the guest additions for this.[11:11:46] *** BrunoSpr has joined #haiku[11:11:54] <BrunoSpr> hello all[11:12:21] <BrunoSpr> something in /boot/home/config/settings is still slowing down the system... how to find out which folder?[11:12:27] <BrunoSpr> any idea?[11:12:44] <BrunoSpr> or kill the whole settings folder?[11:17:56] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[11:18:24] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[11:20:10] *** BrunoSpr has quit IRC[11:27:22] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[11:27:41] *** tojoko has left #haiku[11:28:32] *** leszek has joined #haiku[11:50:45] *** nighty has quit IRC[11:56:42] *** yosafbridge has quit IRC[12:16:52] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[12:26:49] *** yosafbridge has joined #haiku[12:28:23] <ii-v> what is the debug program called and is there something similar for linux?[12:38:46] *** PaSaSaP has joined #haiku[12:43:25] *** yosafbridge has quit IRC[12:48:42] *** kushalsingh007 has quit IRC[12:56:19] *** BrunoSpr has joined #haiku[12:56:24] <BrunoSpr> hello[12:56:26] <BrunoSpr> all[12:56:39] *** yosafbridge has joined #haiku[12:57:11] <BrunoSpr> something in my boot/home/config/settings is still slowing down the whole system... how to find out which program I have to kill?[13:08:59] *** BrunoSpr has quit IRC[13:12:07] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson synchronize pull request #596: gettext-0.19.7: keep lib*.la, switch to tar.xz, reorder sections. - https://git.io/vrcv4[13:15:50] *** stippi_ has joined #haiku[13:20:19] *** stippi_ has quit IRC[13:21:06] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson synchronize pull request #596: gettext-0.19.7: keep lib*.la, switch to tar.xz, reorder sections. - https://git.io/vrcv4[13:29:14] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[13:30:32] <Paradoxon> is there a way to autmatically add hvif icons to a ressource file?[13:31:12] *** tojoko has joined #haiku[13:34:01] *** tojoko has left #haiku[13:36:45] <Paradoxon> is there any posibility?[13:37:07] <Paradoxon> like running through a folder and include all hvif icons into the ressourcefile?[13:38:39] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[14:11:10] *** tojoko has joined #haiku[14:11:13] <tojoko> hi![14:11:32] <tojoko> i finaly managed to install haiku on a stick and boot from it thanks to an very old machine.[14:12:01] <tojoko> but no i have no wlan support although i should have and i even don't find where to configure wifi.[14:13:21] *** _ElBarto_ has joined #haiku[14:14:54] <_ElBarto_> Paradoxon: do you want to get hvif from binaries or are they hvif files?[14:16:26] *** tojoko has left #haiku[14:16:45] <Paradoxon> i have a lot of hvif files (saved directly from iconomatic)[14:17:15] <Paradoxon> and i want the makefile to generate from all the files a ressourcefile wich then will be added later to the programm..[14:17:22] <_ElBarto_> I don't think there's a commandline utility allowing to do that[14:17:43] <Paradoxon> there shoudl be[14:17:53] <Paradoxon> because you can use translate[14:18:13] <_ElBarto_> you can look into IconOMatic and grab the code needed for such utility[14:18:15] <Paradoxon> from terminal and some terminal magic to join all the generated file[14:18:21] <Paradoxon> no[14:18:27] <Paradoxon> there are translators[14:18:34] <_ElBarto_> eh[14:18:35] <Paradoxon> and there is a translator command utility[14:18:44] <Paradoxon> but.. i just know that they are there..[14:18:51] <Paradoxon> not how to use this[14:19:00] <Paradoxon> and not how to integrate it into a makefiel[14:19:06] <_ElBarto_> what do you think IconOMatic is using?[14:19:15] <Paradoxon> the translator :-D[14:19:22] <_ElBarto_> so what I suggested?[14:19:22] <Paradoxon> is there a way to run a script from a makefile?[14:20:18] <_ElBarto_> a shell script is an executable like others[14:20:24] <_ElBarto_> so I guess yes[14:20:58] <_ElBarto_> just call it as it was a command[14:21:36] *** nighty has joined #haiku[14:21:56] <Paradoxon> ok thanks[14:22:09] <Paradoxon> hmm but i need to figure the whole script out :-D[14:22:44] <Paradoxon> anyway.. is there a combobox (inputfield + dropdown menulist ) somewhere available?[14:23:06] <Paradoxon> in any mit licensed project?[14:23:57] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[14:24:09] <HaikuUser> hello[14:24:17] <HaikuUser> can't configure wifi - any hint?[14:24:21] <_ElBarto_> with layouts it should be easy to create the widget[14:24:31] *** Akuji has quit IRC[14:24:49] <_ElBarto_> HaikuUser: does network preferences show a wifi card?[14:25:09] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[14:25:18] <HaikuUser> nope, but it should be supported. network preferences just shows the rtl39...[14:25:44] <Paradoxon> _ElBarto did you ever used layout api.. its a pain in the ass[14:26:26] <Paradoxon> HaikuUser can you go to terminal[14:26:29] <Paradoxon> and type in[14:26:44] <Paradoxon> listdev[14:27:38] <Paradoxon> copy the output[14:27:55] <Paradoxon> and insert the output somewhere in pastebin[14:28:56] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[14:28:59] <HaikuUser> Controller #1[14:28:59] <Paradoxon> _ElBarto my apps where simpler to write and worked better without layout api.. its always not working like you expect it to work and you need a tons of special tweaks to get the ui you want[14:28:59] <HaikuUser>[14:29:01] <HaikuUser> device Network controller [2|80|0][14:29:01] <HaikuUser> vendor 8086: Intel Corporation[14:29:01] <HaikuUser> device 0888: Centrino Wireless-N 2230[14:29:06] <Paradoxon> not spamming here[14:29:16] <Paradoxon> go online to pastebin[14:29:19] <HaikuUser> uh sorry.[14:29:22] <Paradoxon> :-D[14:29:28] <_ElBarto_> Paradoxon: to do what you want to do should be something like that AddGroup(B_HORIZONTAL).Add(MakeTextControl().Add(MakeInputField()).End()[14:29:29] <Paradoxon> and send us the link[14:29:40] <_ElBarto_> in pseudo layout code[14:29:56] <Paradoxon> will not work[14:30:07] <Paradoxon> you need to tight them together[14:30:23] <_ElBarto_> AddGlue()[14:30:30] <Paradoxon> so that the input text will filter the Menu .. or other view you use[14:30:45] <_ElBarto_> SetModificationMessage ?[14:30:50] <Paradoxon> so you need to "rework" the menu every time[14:31:01] <_ElBarto_> If you didn't use layout, the problem will be the same[14:31:06] <Paradoxon> but you need to react to this Modification Message[14:31:11] <Paradoxon> shur[14:31:12] <Paradoxon> e[14:31:14] <Paradoxon> :-D[14:31:26] <Paradoxon> thats why i asked if someone already did the job :-D[14:31:29] <HaikuUser> sorry, pastebin doesn't work for me with webpositive.[14:31:34] <Paradoxon> :-D[14:31:35] <Paradoxon> ok[14:31:46] <Paradoxon> HaikuUser can you find you wlan device there[14:31:53] <Paradoxon> what kind of device is it?[14:32:36] <HaikuUser> yes, it should be https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/12006 the same.[14:32:36] <_ElBarto_> Paradoxon: https://github.com/Barrett17/Faber/blob/master/src/interface/SpinSlider.cpp#L72[14:32:39] <_ElBarto_> something similar[14:33:03] <_ElBarto_> a composition of two widgets[14:33:21] <HaikuUser> Centrino Wireless-N 2230[14:34:24] <Paradoxon> sorry my internet conncetion is super slow... need to wait until the ticket is loaded[14:34:43] <HaikuUser> http://pastebin.com/MkgbJL6h - it worked now.[14:34:51] <Paradoxon> year i am even slower than dialup :-D[14:34:52] <Paradoxon> lol[14:35:41] <Paradoxon> HaikuUser what is the matter of the ticket[14:36:13] <Paradoxon> its still loading here :-D[14:36:23] <Paradoxon> maybe its faster when you tell me :-D[14:36:26] <HaikuUser> well, that it wasn't supported but is now. Since 47... something. i'm usin' 50... something.[14:37:19] <Paradoxon> you tried ifconfig..[14:37:19] <Paradoxon> ?[14:37:23] <Paradoxon> as i can see[14:37:37] <Paradoxon> what was the outcome of ifconfig[14:39:06] <HaikuUser> http://pastebin.com/CcfkEBwa[14:39:37] <Paradoxon> and again watinig to get some simple text loading[14:39:44] * Paradoxon is falling asleep[14:40:18] <Akuji> For BeOS staff collectors: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Edirol-Roland-Video-Editing-station-VideoCanvas-DV-7-BeOS-5-Montage-Video-/141994293509?hash=item210f84f905:g:dp8AAOSwHQ9WVNk8[14:40:26] *** kushalsingh007 has joined #haiku[14:40:33] <_ElBarto_> HaikuUser: ifconfig without -h[14:47:56] <Paradoxon> args still loading here :-D[14:48:22] <HaikuUser> well, kind a slow here too today[14:49:07] <HaikuUser> sorry, can't reach pastebin anymore[14:51:52] <HaikuUser> is there any other web browser thank webpositive i can use?[14:52:52] <HaikuUser> well, i did install-wifi-firmwares.sh and i think i will try a reboot now.[14:53:30] <HaikuUser> anybody still out there?[14:54:25] *** HaikuUser has left #haiku[14:54:44] *** Akuji has quit IRC[14:55:18] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[14:55:32] <Paradoxon> yea i am out here :-)[14:55:36] *** _ElBarto_ has quit IRC[14:57:20] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[14:57:36] <HaikuUser> re[14:59:59] <HaikuUser> http://pastebin.com/sK5hCgHx[15:04:40] *** ii-v has quit IRC[15:07:41] <Paradoxon> i event didnt managed to load the old pastebin..[15:07:42] <Paradoxon> :([15:08:08] <HaikuUser> a pitty.[15:08:56] <Paradoxon> HaikuUser btw.. there plenty other browsers.. out there[15:09:12] <Paradoxon> Qupzilla[15:09:19] <Paradoxon> as a up to date one[15:09:32] <Paradoxon> netsurfe for simple browsing[15:09:37] *** swift110 has joined #haiku[15:10:04] <Paradoxon> HaikuUser it looks like it didnt loaded the driver[15:10:08] *** swift110 has quit IRC[15:10:08] *** swift110 has joined #haiku[15:10:51] <Paradoxon> can you take a look into /var/log/syslog[15:11:11] <Paradoxon> and search for some kind of error regarding your wifi card?[15:12:53] <Paradoxon> ok i need to go... will be back in 2h i guess...[15:13:07] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[15:13:32] *** Alam_Squeeze has quit IRC[15:16:05] *** ii-v has joined #haiku[15:22:46] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[15:29:12] *** Akuji has quit IRC[15:29:44] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[15:36:39] *** arroyoc has joined #haiku[15:48:02] *** Akuji has quit IRC[15:52:09] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[16:07:58] *** Akuji has quit IRC[16:08:55] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[16:09:43] *** swift110 has left #haiku[16:10:43] *** arroyoc has quit IRC[16:18:07] *** GeneralDuke1 has joined #haiku[16:18:55] *** GeneralDuke has quit IRC[16:18:56] *** GeneralDuke1 is now known as GeneralDuke[16:25:36] *** tojoko has joined #haiku[16:35:56] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[16:36:33] <Paradoxon> back[16:50:41] <tojoko> wb back :)[16:50:52] <tojoko> i'm now back under windows[16:50:59] <Paradoxon> oh..[16:51:11] <tojoko> couldn't find any error.[16:51:11] <Paradoxon> did you figured out the error in the syslog?[16:51:24] <Paradoxon> can you pastebin the syslog ?[16:51:34] <Paradoxon> once you are under haiku?[16:51:35] <tojoko> nope - i will try to install an older nightly and hop that supports my card.[16:51:56] <Paradoxon> do you have a software "switch" to turn the wifi on and off?[16:52:16] <tojoko> Paradoxon, that card should be supported, actually. Don't know if they removed the support at some point.[16:52:18] <Paradoxon> this could also cause trouble..[16:52:32] <tojoko> Paradoxon, ah, year well, i do have an key.[16:52:40] <Paradoxon> did you had wifi running at some point[16:52:46] <Paradoxon> ?[16:52:57] <Paradoxon> it could be that you turned off under a other os the wifi[16:53:04] <Paradoxon> and it stays this way...[16:53:07] <Paradoxon> some times..[16:53:19] *** kushalsingh007 has quit IRC[16:53:47] *** kushalsingh007 has joined #haiku[16:57:21] <tojoko> nope, i didn't have wifi runnin', but the chip is supposed to be supported. It says no driver, but the right id of th card.[16:57:38] <tojoko> and i do think wifi is turned on.[17:02:17] <Paradoxon> args[17:04:20] <tojoko> i don't know how it can happen that drivers are removed from one nightly to another.[17:04:42] <tojoko> and when i tried to install the wlan drivers a second time, the whole system crashed.[17:04:59] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[17:10:02] <Paradoxon> thats where it would be interessting to see the syslog[17:12:16] *** amuck_ has quit IRC[17:12:52] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[17:14:50] *** Nothing_Much has joined #haiku[17:15:07] *** DKnoto_W has quit IRC[17:15:49] <tojoko> Paradoxon, which one exactly again?[17:16:06] <Paradoxon> its under /var/log/syslog[17:16:24] <Paradoxon> if you could pastebin this one..[17:16:27] <Paradoxon> maybe we get a hint[17:17:23] *** stippi_ has joined #haiku[17:17:48] <tojoko> unfortunatly i didn't save it before reboot or send it to ... well, maybe i could export it on the other machine.[17:18:31] <Paradoxon> :)[17:19:09] <tojoko> funny thing is, my bootstick only works with plop bootmanager and only on one computer - not on the other one. ;)[17:21:43] *** stippi_ has quit IRC[17:24:15] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[17:27:03] *** ii-v has quit IRC[17:30:16] <tojoko> i can't, it's to big.[17:35:45] *** tojoko has left #haiku[17:35:46] *** Luko has joined #haiku[17:37:05] *** Alam_Squeeze has quit IRC[17:37:18] *** GeneralDuke has quit IRC[17:40:23] *** Alam_Squeeze has joined #haiku[17:50:59] *** Luko has quit IRC[18:10:11] *** dh64 has joined #haiku[18:12:15] *** Akuji has quit IRC[18:15:55] *** PasNox_ has joined #haiku[18:25:13] <Paradoxon> wow[18:25:19] <Paradoxon> missed this one[18:29:16] *** Selth has quit IRC[18:44:55] *** [JJ]Albert has quit IRC[18:58:18] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[18:58:55] *** Nothing_Much has quit IRC[18:59:35] *** tqh has joined #haiku[18:59:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[19:12:22] *** jjido has joined #haiku[19:21:23] *** Nothing_Much has joined #haiku[19:23:14] *** Negr0 has joined #haiku[19:27:10] *** Nothing_Much has quit IRC[19:36:07] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[19:55:00] <Carl_Miller> Hi[20:04:48] *** amuck has joined #haiku[20:07:19] *** amuck has quit IRC[20:08:53] <Paradoxon> hi[20:14:05] <Paradoxon> i am using const void* data = res->LoadResource(B_VECTOR_ICON_TYPE, icon_name, &size); bmp = BTranslationUtils::GetBitmap(new BMemoryIO(data,size)); to load icons form the app ressource[20:14:13] <Paradoxon> but the icon is way to big[20:14:20] <Paradoxon> any hints?[20:16:05] *** jjido_ has joined #haiku[20:18:28] *** amuck has joined #haiku[20:24:47] *** jjido_ has quit IRC[20:27:53] *** amuck has quit IRC[20:35:28] *** jjido_ has joined #haiku[20:42:57] *** jjido_ has quit IRC[20:47:40] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[20:47:45] *** gouchi has quit IRC[20:51:27] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[21:00:23] *** orealis has quit IRC[21:07:00] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[21:08:23] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[21:08:49] *** Akuji_H has joined #haiku[21:12:49] *** gouchi has joined #haiku[21:13:24] *** cucujoidea has joined #haiku[21:18:50] *** stippi_ has joined #haiku[21:22:44] *** amuck has joined #haiku[21:22:57] *** stippi_ has quit IRC[21:26:39] *** Akuji_H has quit IRC[21:27:04] *** amuck has quit IRC[21:29:06] *** Akuji_H has joined #haiku[21:33:39] *** vidrep has joined #haiku[21:34:21] *** amuck has joined #haiku[21:46:56] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson edited pull request #596: gettext-0.19.7: keep lib*.la, reorder sections, use mirror. - https://git.io/vrcv4[21:52:50] *** Akuji has quit IRC[21:54:15] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[21:54:21] <HaikuUser> re[21:54:51] <HaikuUser> where was that log!?[21:55:54] <HaikuUser> still can't get wifi to work.[21:56:58] <Paradoxon> in /var/log/syslog[21:57:49] *** cucujoidea has left #haiku[21:59:45] *** PasNox_ has quit IRC[22:00:18] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[22:02:03] *** rennj has quit IRC[22:06:15] *** Akuji_H has quit IRC[22:09:11] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson opened pull request #598: tar: bump to 1.29, adapt patch, add TEST(), switch to mirror. - https://git.io/vrW5p[22:10:45] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[22:10:47] *** bitkid has quit IRC[22:11:12] *** tojoko has joined #haiku[22:11:14] <tojoko> re[22:11:38] <tojoko> sorry, can't keep it up long enough to post the syslog[22:12:08] *** arroyoc has joined #haiku[22:12:50] *** bitkid has joined #haiku[22:17:01] <tojoko> it's just to bugy[22:17:58] <jessicah> copy onto a fat formatted usb stick?[22:18:25] <axeld> Paradoxon: I don't think GetBitmap() is supposed to understand vector icons[22:19:17] <tojoko> jessicah, well, it did go well ... until i decided i'd like to have wifi supported. That script is a total mess.[22:20:27] *** rennj has joined #haiku[22:20:44] <tojoko> and, installation was a pain. i now found an old computer with cd rom, so i could install and than install from that install directly to an usb stick. which worked just fine for me, at least at one of my computers (but not for the second one), till, well, wifi script. just run in twice, and u know, what i mean.[22:20:56] <Paradoxon> axeld it works (using the hvif translator) but i cant hand over the size..[22:21:18] <axeld> Paradoxon: Ah, okay[22:21:23] <tojoko> ah, Paradoxon, hello - haven't u tried to help me bevor?[22:21:24] <Paradoxon> but i found a solution.. using IconUtils.[22:21:38] <Paradoxon> tojoko could be[22:21:39] <Paradoxon> :-)[22:21:50] <tojoko> does sound to me more like a workaround ...[22:23:50] <axeld> Paradoxon: try BIconUtils::GetVectorIcon()[22:24:29] <Paradoxon> :-)[22:26:22] <Paradoxon> axeld while you are here.. how do i manage a BToolbar wich grows to big?[22:26:47] <Paradoxon> i mean how do i prevent the toolbar from making my Window more than screensize?[22:26:49] <axeld> What do you mean "grows to big"?[22:27:00] <Paradoxon> i added to much Buttons[22:27:03] <Paradoxon> :-D[22:27:08] <axeld> The obvious answer would be to put less buttons in it :-)[22:27:12] <Paradoxon> lol[22:27:35] <axeld> I don't think there is any mechanism to handle too many buttons there[22:27:46] <axeld> I wouldn't even know what it should do in this case[22:27:49] <Paradoxon> i guess when i replace the text with the text with icons.. it will work out[22:27:52] <axeld> You could put it in a scrollview[22:28:01] <axeld> Or have two rows of buttons[22:28:15] <Paradoxon> thats planned anyway[22:28:19] <Paradoxon> a second toolbar[22:28:27] <Paradoxon> two posibilitys.. make it "grabable" and move it around..[22:28:40] <Paradoxon> or add some Arrows with drop down menu[22:28:41] <tojoko> thank god u have no automatic bug report like mozilla. ^^[22:28:44] <Paradoxon> like libreoffice[22:29:26] <jessicah> telemetry would be good to have one day[22:29:49] <Paradoxon> but i am not shure if i am able to make patch..[22:30:55] <jessicah> automatic bug reporting would be useful too, if they could be collated nicely[22:31:45] *** Megaf has joined #haiku[22:31:45] <tojoko> jessicah, nope, u wouldn't want me to report all bugs, i'm afraid.[22:32:03] <jessicah> reporting bugs is the only way to improve software[22:32:18] <tojoko> jessicah, there are just to many, i'm afraid.[22:33:13] <jessicah> well, I'd expect automated reporting to be able to group reports into single issues and things[22:33:29] <jessicah> to prevent it from becoming unmanageable[22:33:55] <jessicah> but that's a pipe dream atm :p[22:35:19] *** leszek has quit IRC[22:35:44] <tojoko> jessicah, may i ask where u from and what u study?[22:35:47] <Paradoxon> thanks axeld for the help it works.. albeit the lockable doesent work.. from what i see[22:36:33] <jessicah> new zealand[22:36:38] <jessicah> not studying, or working...[22:38:13] <tojoko> oh, not bad. u go to school?[22:39:17] <jessicah> hah, no[22:39:20] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[22:39:29] <jessicah> too old for school[22:40:04] <tojoko> ok, so, just enjoyin' new zealand? that sounds neat.[22:40:42] *** skbot1661 has quit IRC[22:40:51] *** soakbot has joined #haiku[22:40:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[22:44:02] <axeld> night[22:44:04] *** axeld has quit IRC[22:45:39] *** tojoko has quit IRC[22:46:00] *** tojoko has joined #haiku[22:46:29] *** arroyoc has quit IRC[22:46:54] *** gouchi has quit IRC[22:50:42] *** cc^mint has joined #haiku[22:50:48] <cc^mint> Hello![22:52:15] <tojoko> be quiet please! we don't like joyful people.[22:52:40] <bbjimmy> :P[22:56:13] *** BrunoSpr has joined #haiku[22:56:47] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[23:02:03] <BrunoSpr> hi[23:03:25] <Paradoxon> hi[23:04:03] <cc^mint> <tojoko> be quiet please! we don't like joyful people.[23:04:22] *** Negr0 has quit IRC[23:04:49] <Paradoxon> :)[23:05:22] *** kolton has joined #haiku[23:06:45] *** mixomathoze has quit IRC[23:07:25] <Paradoxon> does anyone knows which project uses the FontPanel from LibSanta?[23:07:31] *** tojoko has quit IRC[23:13:29] *** mixomathoze has joined #haiku[23:18:01] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[23:19:01] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[23:24:15] <vidrep> Hi[23:24:29] <Paradoxon> hi[23:24:37] <vidrep> Has anybody tested the Bluetooth server yet?[23:24:55] <Paradoxon> i just enabled it.. but i could find any device :)[23:25:04] <vidrep> Same here[23:25:39] <vidrep> I bought a IOgear dongle to try out[23:26:52] <vidrep> Haiku detects it as a USB device, but it doesn't scan for connected devices (USB speaker)[23:26:57] <Paradoxon> oh at least its now negotiating[23:27:33] <vidrep> Are you using a dongle or on board?[23:29:06] <Paradoxon> vidrep i think it only supports file transfere ... but i am not shure[23:31:38] <BrunoSpr> It is working a bit but crashing a lot[23:32:11] <BrunoSpr> I was triying the bluetooth server as well but no luck...[23:32:29] <BrunoSpr> at least it found my htc smartphone..[23:32:40] <BrunoSpr> and I could connect to it...[23:32:55] <BrunoSpr> but I could not transfer anything![23:34:18] <vidrep> BrunoSpr, you still having problems with the deskbar?[23:35:15] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[23:38:16] *** tojoko has joined #haiku[23:41:24] *** kolton has quit IRC[23:41:43] *** kushalsingh007 has quit IRC[23:48:15] *** tqh has quit IRC[23:51:56] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[23:51:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[23:52:19] *** Barrett has quit IRC[23:57:30] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[23:57:54] *** Barrett is now known as Guest30501[23:59:42] <tojoko> https://justpaste.it/udnp