May 6, 2016 
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May 6, 2016 [00:23:58] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[00:24:39] *** arfonzo has quit IRC[00:25:09] *** Sandronimus has quit IRC[00:25:51] *** arfonzo has joined #haiku[00:26:35] *** Paianni has joined #haiku[00:27:04] *** Begasus has quit IRC[00:29:15] <tojoko> good n8[00:34:33] *** tojoko has quit IRC[00:36:36] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[00:36:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[00:37:27] <HAIKU-irker726> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev50285 [5 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f1d1e8297bfe+%5Ec9dba74273d3[00:37:28] <HAIKU-irker726> deaef0eb2edd: preferences/bluetooth: Use BLayoutBuilder instead of B*LayoutBuilder.[00:37:29] <HAIKU-irker726> ef3761dd0745: preferences/bluetooth: Use BAboutWindow instead of BAlert.[00:37:30] <HAIKU-irker726> 9f95282c840a: preferences/bluetooth: Rephrase 'services not running' dialog.[00:37:31] <HAIKU-irker726> 9080758a2454: preferences/bluetooth: Some coding style cleanup.[00:37:32] <HAIKU-irker726> f1d1e8297bfe: preferences/bluetooth: Remove the unused 'View' menu.[01:03:50] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[01:11:36] *** Negr0 has quit IRC[01:23:24] *** gbl08ma has joined #haiku[01:24:07] *** kushalsingh007 has joined #haiku[01:26:15] *** kushalsingh007 has quit IRC[01:27:02] *** Negr0 has joined #haiku[01:30:13] *** Paianni has quit IRC[01:36:09] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[01:51:17] *** MatiasArg has joined #haiku[01:51:22] <MatiasArg> hi[01:52:20] <MatiasArg> i have problem with dosbox....the keyboard is change map[01:58:28] *** MatiasArg has left #haiku[01:58:35] *** MatiasArg has joined #haiku[01:58:52] <MatiasArg> some speak spanish...[02:02:56] *** MatiasArg has quit IRC[02:07:19] *** HAIKU-Buildbot has quit IRC[02:07:34] *** HAIKU-Buildbot has joined #haiku[02:07:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v HAIKU-Buildbot[02:11:09] *** stippi_ has joined #haiku[02:11:09] *** stippi has quit IRC[02:15:42] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[02:24:41] *** Barrett has quit IRC[02:40:51] *** stippi has joined #haiku[02:40:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[02:43:21] *** stippi_ has quit IRC[02:49:42] *** valerius has quit IRC[02:50:33] *** valerius has joined #haiku[02:51:32] *** valerius has joined #haiku[02:52:02] *** valerius has joined #haiku[02:52:32] *** valerius has joined #haiku[02:52:33] *** valerius has quit IRC[02:53:03] *** valerius has joined #haiku[02:54:04] *** valerius has joined #haiku[02:55:32] *** valerius has joined #haiku[02:56:02] *** valerius has joined #haiku[02:57:02] *** valerius has joined #haiku[03:02:17] *** N9DH has joined #haiku[03:07:50] *** happy-dude has quit IRC[03:07:51] <N9DH> could anyone tell me where I can read about the diffrence between modern c++ and the version hajlu uses[03:21:27] *** Negr0 has quit IRC[03:26:21] *** leer10 has joined #haiku[03:36:05] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[04:15:30] <HAIKU-irker726> haiku.master: nielx * hrev50286 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=bd3f6a54ec86+%5Ef1d1e8297bfe[04:15:31] <HAIKU-irker726> bd3f6a54ec86: Update userguide translations, leavengood as nielx[04:28:48] *** MindChld2 has quit IRC[04:44:08] *** Nach0z_ has joined #haiku[04:44:49] *** N9DH has quit IRC[04:46:33] *** Nach0z has quit IRC[05:04:23] *** nighty has joined #haiku[05:26:16] *** Nach0z_ is now known as Nach0z[06:04:53] *** thomasm has joined #haiku[07:07:45] *** johndrinkwater has joined #haiku[07:09:42] *** [Beta] has quit IRC[07:12:05] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[07:30:37] *** fermi2 has joined #haiku[07:30:56] *** Nothing_Much has quit IRC[07:35:41] *** kushalsingh007 has joined #haiku[07:47:17] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[07:56:05] *** Paianni has joined #haiku[08:03:32] *** valerius has joined #haiku[08:04:06] *** valerius has joined #haiku[08:04:38] *** valerius has joined #haiku[08:06:39] *** Diver has quit IRC[08:10:02] *** valerius has joined #haiku[08:10:37] *** valerius has joined #haiku[08:11:32] *** valerius has joined #haiku[08:14:33] *** valerius has joined 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https://github.com/HaikuArchives/FontBoy?[09:45:03] *** munchaus1n has quit IRC[09:46:33] *** munchausen has joined #haiku[09:49:00] <Paradoxon> Akuji thast an app wich shows installed font.. not a fontpanel where you can easy change all font settings..[09:49:27] <Paradoxon> then i would preffere the one from scripture guide.. ist more usefull but not feature complete[09:54:37] <Paradoxon> but thanks[09:56:18] *** Tsesarevich_ has joined #haiku[09:57:48] *** Tsesarevich has quit IRC[09:57:54] *** Tsesarevich_ is now known as Tsesarevich[09:59:10] *** Akuji has quit IRC[09:59:45] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[10:01:22] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[10:10:27] *** Nothing_Much has quit IRC[10:29:12] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[10:30:25] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[10:31:19] *** Kargaroc has joined #haiku[10:44:04] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[10:45:26] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[10:47:11] *** qptain_Nemo has quit IRC[10:47:32] *** qptain_Nemo has joined #haiku[10:48:18] *** jjido has joined #haiku[10:53:40] *** fermi2 has quit IRC[11:04:43] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[11:16:05] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[11:16:34] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[11:18:08] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[11:37:03] *** leszek has joined #haiku[11:45:42] *** vdamewood has joined #haiku[11:50:39] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[11:51:02] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[11:52:49] *** miqlas_ has quit IRC[12:02:19] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[12:06:07] *** miqlas-H has joined #haiku[12:06:55] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[12:09:18] *** fermi2 has joined #haiku[12:11:09] <Begasus> k ... sdl2_mixer doesn't build for gcc2 here, so going for an update on the recipe for x86[12:12:57] <miqlas-H> Bega, i had problems all the time with SDL on Haiku :([12:13:03] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[12:14:05] <Begasus> hi miqlas-H, well .. I haven't used the sdl2 libraries (yet), but knowing they are around and can be build to use at one point would be a good start I think ;)[12:14:28] <Begasus> on the other hand ... not much problems with default sdl here[12:15:00] <Begasus> sdl2_image builds for both arch's[12:16:01] <Begasus> hmm isn't it policy to use lower case in the recipes now?[12:16:24] <Begasus> libSDL2_mixer --- libsdl2_mixer[12:17:27] <CandidC> Yeah I've been having problems with Simutrans recently[12:17:37] <CandidC> I think it might be a SDL issue[12:18:37] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[12:19:08] <Begasus> haven't checked out Simutrans in a long while :)[12:20:51] <miqlas-H> I got strange error messages at compiling Widelands, so i'm unable to build it.[12:20:57] <miqlas-H> It is something about lua.[12:21:36] *** valerius has joined #haiku[12:21:41] <miqlas-H> I have no idea, what should i try to port.[12:21:44] <Begasus> ah, same thing here with fish-fillets ... also related to lua[12:22:08] *** valerius has joined #haiku[12:22:12] <miqlas-H> I had no luck with fortan (gcc), no luck with updating Erlang, no luck with MariaDB, and counting...[12:22:30] <miqlas-H> Any idea, what should i port?[12:23:32] <Begasus> out of ideas? ;)[12:23:46] <miqlas-H> yep[12:24:28] <Begasus> http://www.systemshock.co.za/forums/topic/14411-gaming-on-linux/[12:24:36] <miqlas-H> compiled Trojita, a Qt based IMAP mailing client, but it crashes at the start :([12:24:38] <Begasus> maybe you can find something there ;)[12:25:41] <miqlas-H> Begasus: i don't really playing games, except jazz jackrabbit and mario[12:26:06] <miqlas-H> i have time just 1-2 times for that in every year (when i'm ill)[12:29:32] *** valerius has joined #haiku[12:31:00] <Begasus> I don't play the games myself here also miqlas-H ;) trying to get them running on Haiku is more fun then playing them :)[12:32:06] <Begasus> it's just a shame I don't have any developers skills ;)[12:34:07] *** valerius has joined #haiku[12:34:49] <miqlas-H> Begasus, what do you think, who much i got?[12:35:04] *** valerius has joined #haiku[12:35:05] <miqlas-H> Not at any :)[12:35:43] <Begasus> :)[12:35:53] <miqlas-H> I tried to compile the latest Go (1.6), but it isn't standalone now, it requires Go 1.4 to compile 1.6, and we have just 1.3, i think.[12:36:05] <miqlas-H> Maybe i should try to port go 1.4[12:36:24] <Begasus> think I looked at Go yesterday, no luck also[12:37:23] <Begasus> now trying to get sdl2_mixer and sdl2_net building (well they build already, but cleaning up the recipe a bit)[12:38:00] <Not-b880> [haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://git.io/vwA9i[12:38:02] <Not-b880> [haikuports] Begasus e215968 - abe, updated recipe, no fullscreen on startup[12:38:16] <Begasus> nice :) one down :)[12:40:40] <CandidC> Well if we're doing Qt package requests[12:40:44] <CandidC> I have a couple[12:41:14] <Begasus> working on one recipe gave me a fix to install the data for cylindrix, have been looking at that for a long time :)[12:41:20] <CandidC> qTox, Retroshare, QSyncthingTray[12:41:26] <CandidC> VLC would be killer[12:41:51] <Begasus> Qt is way beyond my skills CandidC :/[12:42:04] <CandidC> Ahhhh[12:42:22] <CandidC> Hmm[12:42:34] <Begasus> cylindrix is the first allegro game I am able to build and run now[12:44:32] *** valerius has joined #haiku[12:44:46] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[12:45:27] <miqlas-H> CandidC: i made the 1.0x VLC port long time ago, it never released, because it had plenty hacks to get it compiled, and it doesn't played anything, just the first frame from the videos.[12:45:40] <miqlas-H> It was ported with gcc4 and qt4[12:45:50] <miqlas-H> maybe you have seen some screenshots.[12:46:10] <CandidC> Yeah yeah I think I got it working under Haiku GCC4 a while ago[12:46:20] <CandidC> That was before PM went mainline[12:47:09] *** valerius has joined #haiku[12:47:27] <miqlas-H> CandidC: yep.[12:47:32] <miqlas-H> here isa screenshot: 9947fc705b0b841b5938c48b22dc33e9647ec0752bae66e50278df4f23f64959[12:47:41] <miqlas-H> sorry. wrong link[12:47:56] <miqlas-H> http://noob.hu/2010/01/29/screenshot7.png[12:48:00] <miqlas-H> this is it[12:48:08] <miqlas-H> it used SDL output.[12:48:25] <CandidC> This web page is blocked[12:48:25] *** kushalsingh007 has quit IRC[12:48:27] <CandidC> URL: noob.hu/2010/01/29/screenshot7.png[12:48:28] <CandidC> Category: Pornography[12:48:32] <CandidC> lol[12:48:58] <miqlas-H> Yeah, nerdporn[12:49:09] <miqlas-H> i'm from hungary, btw.[12:49:26] <miqlas-H> it was a nice picture sharing site at this time.[12:49:26] <CandidC> Australia[12:49:46] <miqlas-H> Are you from Australia? Is there really upside down?[12:50:10] <miqlas-H> I mean is there rally everything upside down?[12:50:21] <miqlas-H> So you start to read from the bottom?[12:50:32] <fermi2> lol[12:50:46] <miqlas-H> Maybe that's why you using IRC...[12:53:22] <CandidC> haha[12:53:31] <CandidC> Well it's nice having things in metric[12:53:43] <CandidC> and no VAT making everything 25% more expensive :p[12:53:57] *** stippi1 has quit IRC[12:54:08] *** valerius has joined #haiku[12:55:32] *** valerius has joined #haiku[12:55:34] *** valerius has quit IRC[12:56:53] <Begasus> Belgium here ;)[12:57:11] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[12:57:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[12:59:09] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[13:01:36] *** valerius has joined #haiku[13:07:14] <miqlas-H> CandidC, are you guys in Australia using metric measure system?[13:07:54] <CandidC> of course[13:07:59] <miqlas-H> so kg, km, celsius, and so on?[13:08:35] <miqlas-H> it was pretty interresting in Canada, thet they using km, but farenheit.[13:08:40] <miqlas-H> maybe because US[13:09:29] <miqlas-H> it made me big headache as i was thee, i had no idea, how should i set the owen :)[13:13:34] *** Negr0 has joined #haiku[13:14:25] <miqlas-H> Guys, whats the name of the smoked meat in english?[13:16:13] <Begasus> no idea miqlas-H :)[13:19:11] *** jmontleon has quit IRC[13:22:05] <CandidC> Well because of legacy most people still use inches and feet when describing height[13:22:11] <CandidC> but that's only informal[13:22:25] <CandidC> Everything official is done in metric, and virtually nothing else uses imperial[13:22:29] *** jmontleon has joined #haiku[13:22:56] <CandidC> Wait, I think we still use knots for nautical speeds, so there's that[13:24:01] <miqlas-H> Hungary doesn't use nautical mesures, as we got no nautica :([13:24:58] <miqlas-H> So i was yesterday in a pub, they making own beer, and they made a new one, it calld "smoked bear", like smoked meat.[13:25:08] <Barrett> I guess knots are the standard by fact in nautic[13:25:21] <miqlas-H> It smells like smoked beef, and it tastes like smoked beaf.[13:25:32] <Barrett> at least what I've always heard in Italy[13:25:42] <miqlas-H> I heard that beer is fluid brad, because it contains so much calories.[13:26:03] <miqlas-H> But with smoked beef taste and smell it is a full breakfast![13:27:42] <miqlas-H> Actually it is awful, we was (almost) unable to drinkt it.[13:27:47] <miqlas-H> btw greeting from pub.[13:29:00] *** fermi2 has quit IRC[13:29:59] <miqlas-H> go 1.4 bootstrapping process works now, it needed some small patches.[13:30:33] <Begasus> +1[13:32:55] <miqlas-H> again problems...[13:32:57] <miqlas-H> undefined reference to `mktempdir'[13:43:01] <miqlas-H> sh*t, it is pretty hard to get go compile[13:43:34] <miqlas-H> i think i let it for somebody else.[13:44:52] *** return0e has quit IRC[13:47:08] <Begasus> can you show me what you got so far?[13:47:20] <Begasus> not that I probly be much help ;)[13:49:56] <miqlas-H> already deleted, sorry Bega.[13:51:07] <miqlas-H> but it was just an OS detection patch, not a big thing.[13:51:21] <miqlas-H> now trying to do something with mono[13:51:25] *** Negr0 has quit IRC[13:51:33] <miqlas-H> OMG, it is big.[13:52:21] <miqlas-H> Begasus: how do you make your ports? I try to get it compile without HaikuPorter, then i do the recipe.[13:54:08] <miqlas-H> Mono is around 82 Mb compressed.[13:54:42] <Begasus> mono is HUGE :P[13:55:03] <miqlas-H> don't panic, i got a biiiig SSD[13:55:13] <miqlas-H> just for Haiku :)[13:55:14] <Begasus> ps OS detection, should be ok with libtoolize -fci (if it uses configure) :)[13:55:46] <miqlas-H> nope.[13:55:57] <miqlas-H> it have an own layer for that.[13:55:57] <Begasus> being huge isn't a problem here :) trying to build it with haikuporter isn't too easy[13:56:04] <Begasus> ah k :)[13:56:12] <miqlas-H> it compiles a bootstrapper executable[13:56:33] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[13:58:15] <miqlas-H> it made it, but then it using the bootstrapper exe to build the other supporting code, and it went wrong.[13:58:26] <miqlas-H> i tried to find the bug, but it is a mess.[13:58:58] <miqlas-H> now autoconfiguring mono[14:01:55] <miqlas-H> i tried to port the latest ruby, it was unsecessful, but it got a really nice configure script with syntax highlighting.[14:02:26] <Begasus> ;)[14:02:31] <miqlas-H> So it colored the configure script output, everything, what sucess or ok was green, every optional yellow, and every problems was red.[14:02:42] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[14:02:46] <miqlas-H> i'd like to see something like that in every FOSS projects.[14:03:04] *** leer10 has quit IRC[14:03:36] <Begasus> not bad, would save some searching on where things go wrong :)[14:03:41] <miqlas-H> is there any wrapper script for coloring configure output?[14:04:03] <miqlas-H> "Pthreads not supported by the GC on this platform."[14:04:06] <miqlas-H> ehhh[14:06:00] <Begasus> should be something to overcome that in some of the other recipes I guess, try grepping the tree for it ;)[14:07:05] *** pebble` has quit IRC[14:07:08] *** dorje has joined #haiku[14:08:15] *** pebble` has joined #haiku[14:08:36] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[14:09:21] <miqlas-H> i fixed it already, don't panic.[14:09:46] <miqlas-H> they explicitly defining -lpthread and -pthread as linkerflags, i just replaced it with -lroot[14:09:54] <miqlas-H> and every -lsocket with -lnetwork[14:10:48] <Begasus> :)[14:11:35] <miqlas-H> Nested configure scripts, how much i like you :([14:11:44] <Begasus> not panicking here ;) busy for a bit before we head of to a nice place with the dogs to get some drinks in the sunshine :D[14:11:57] <miqlas-H> I fix one, and it goes further just to start the next one, with the same problems.[14:12:24] <miqlas-H> so i fix the nxt one too, and it just goes further, to hang at the same problem in the next nested configure scripts.[14:12:43] <miqlas-H> and everytime as i test it i need to wait to check everything...[14:12:46] <miqlas-H> ehhh[14:13:01] <miqlas-H> why the unix folks masochist?[14:13:47] <miqlas-H> 4. beer[14:14:21] <miqlas-H> yes, i know about ./configure -C[14:15:25] <miqlas-H> omg, yet another configure script chained.[14:15:29] <Begasus> hehe[14:15:40] <miqlas-H> FUKKYU: "Pthreads not supported by the GC on this platform."[14:15:57] <Begasus> nice ... sdl2_net builds for gcc2 and x86 :D[14:18:27] <miqlas-H> WUT?[14:18:30] <miqlas-H> checking for pthread_self in -lroot... yes[14:18:30] <miqlas-H> configure: error: "Pthreads not supported by the GC on this platform."[14:18:31] <miqlas-H> configure: error: ./configure failed for libgc[14:18:42] <miqlas-H> What is this shat?[14:19:08] <miqlas-H> how i supposed to fix this thingie?[14:19:28] <miqlas-H> it already found the entry point for pthreads in lroot![14:19:29] <Begasus> google?[14:19:37] <miqlas-H> nope![14:19:41] <Begasus> ;)[14:20:06] <Begasus> anyway, heading out here, bbl :)[14:20:13] *** Begasus is now known as Begas_[14:21:07] *** dorje has quit IRC[14:21:42] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://git.io/vwAhG[14:21:44] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson 05d7c57 - aspell_ro: add Romanian (Română) dictionary for aspell.[14:39:58] <miqlas-H> echo "Mono is too complicated for me. Letting somebody else to do the hard work."[14:40:25] *** jjido has quit IRC[14:42:16] *** return0e has joined #haiku[14:45:25] *** jjido has joined #haiku[14:45:25] *** Barrett has quit IRC[14:50:20] *** vdamewood has quit IRC[14:57:52] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[15:03:05] <miqlas-H> Na, i need to go to meet with my ex-collegue. Sorry guys.[15:04:47] *** miqlas-H has quit IRC[15:17:07] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[15:17:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Barrett[15:22:19] *** jjido has quit IRC[15:22:38] *** nighty has quit IRC[15:23:37] *** nighty has joined #haiku[15:28:12] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[15:28:54] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[15:37:00] *** jjido has joined #haiku[15:43:02] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[15:44:25] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[15:55:18] *** Sandronimus has quit IRC[15:59:57] *** fermi2 has joined #haiku[16:00:38] <fermi2> how the heck did I just pkgman update to hrev50286 when its nightly image hasn't been published yet?[16:00:55] <Not-b880> [haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/vwxq4[16:00:57] <Not-b880> [haikuports] korli 76dae26 - fpc_bin: doesn't require fpc.[16:00:59] <mmu_man> because the packages are uploaded before the full image is?[16:02:04] <fermi2> didn't know how this worked[16:02:15] <fermi2> I thought that the images where build simultaneously with the pkgs[16:03:09] *** fermi2 has quit IRC[16:04:35] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[16:11:51] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[16:12:31] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[16:17:00] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[16:23:55] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[16:27:29] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[16:32:27] *** arroyoc has joined #haiku[16:34:37] <mmu_man> probably, but it takes more time to upload it then[16:35:42] *** arroyoc has quit IRC[16:43:01] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[16:46:38] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[16:54:33] *** kushalsingh007 has joined #haiku[16:59:48] *** Akuji has quit IRC[17:10:10] *** GeneralDuke has quit IRC[17:17:06] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[17:20:14] *** js has quit IRC[17:20:23] *** js has joined #haiku[17:20:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o js[17:26:32] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[17:30:44] *** js has quit IRC[17:31:46] *** miqlas-H has joined #haiku[17:32:41] <miqlas-H> Grüssle von Pub.[17:34:58] *** dorje has joined #haiku[17:40:06] *** js has joined #haiku[17:40:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o js[17:41:18] *** return0e_ has joined #haiku[17:41:21] *** dorje has quit IRC[17:44:44] *** return0e has quit IRC[17:46:56] *** Nothing_Much has joined #haiku[17:55:51] <tsyesika> Hey, I've noticed that when i query for my media with certain attributes it can't find it... e.g. videos with the Genre "Comedy" or something (I have a bunch of videos with that attribute set on disk though)[17:56:03] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[17:56:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[17:56:08] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[17:56:11] <tsyesika> Is anyone else able to? maybe I'm doing something wrong[17:58:21] <humdinger> tsyesika: is the attribute indexed? see "lsindex" on that partition.[18:00:14] <tsyesika> sorry to ask a stupid question but... how do I find out.[18:00:46] *** Akuji has quit IRC[18:00:51] <humdinger> in Terminal type "lsindex"[18:01:10] <humdinger> Now have a looksy if MEDIA:Genre is among them.[18:01:12] <tsyesika> oh i see, it's a command[18:01:17] <humdinger> or what the attribute is called[18:01:42] <tsyesika> ah, it's not[18:02:30] <humdinger> then see "mkindex" and "reindex" :)[18:03:21] <tsyesika> humdinger: thanks![18:03:31] <humdinger> my pleasure.[18:05:27] <miqlas-H> humdinger: Wie geht's?[18:05:50] <humdinger> hi miqlas-H: super. es ist praktisch sommer. :)[18:06:16] <miqlas-H> nee. Es ist praktisch warmes Winter,[18:06:42] <miqlas-H> Wir hatten doch Schneesturm letztes Woche.[18:06:46] <humdinger> idealtemperatur für mich. heißr muss es nicht mehr werden.[18:07:15] <miqlas-H> Ich bin Sommerkind, aber ich brauche auch nicht 40 Grad.[18:07:58] <miqlas-H> Diese ~20 Grad schön in Ordnung, was wir hier in BW haben.[18:08:01] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[18:08:10] <humdinger> vorteil bei 40°C: man hält es draußen nicht aus und kann ohne schlechtes gewissen drinnen vorm Rechner sitzen. :)[18:08:39] <miqlas-H> vor Bier sitzen, hasst Du gemeint, oder?[18:09:04] <humdinger> das macht bei 40° auch nicht soviel spaß.[18:09:46] *** stippi has quit IRC[18:09:53] <miqlas-H> Ich habe Vorstellungsgespraech am Dienstag för ein Position von Projektleiter, Kannst mir Glück wünschen.[18:09:58] *** stippi has joined #haiku[18:09:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[18:10:17] <Begas_> Gib mir mahl 5grad weniger :P[18:10:26] *** Begas_ is now known as Begasus[18:10:28] <Begasus> re[18:10:29] <humdinger> hey, ich dachte du hättest gerade erst einen neuen Job??[18:10:52] <miqlas-H> /set TEMP_bei_BEGA -5[18:10:57] <Begasus> :D[18:11:20] <humdinger> Begasus: so viel heißer kann es bei Dir doch gar nicht sein, oder?[18:11:22] <miqlas-H> humdinger: jawohl, aber sie möchten mir ausleihen.[18:11:44] <humdinger> oh mann. wollen dich schon so früh loswerde.... :P[18:11:49] <miqlas-H> error: TEM_bei_BEGA: undeclared[18:12:01] <miqlas-H> sheisssssssssss[18:12:17] <miqlas-H> sorry Bega, ich muss es noch anpassen zum Haiku.[18:13:10] <miqlas-H> humdinger: du weiss doch, wie schei...khmmm...ss mensch bin ich.[18:13:46] <humdinger> wahrscheinlich fluchst du zuviel...[18:14:04] <miqlas-H> Dienstleiter. Sie sind froh, wenn wenig Leute sie vor Ort haben, und doch Profit erstellen können.[18:14:21] <miqlas-H> fluchen? Was bedeutet das?[18:14:25] <miqlas-H> trinken?[18:14:31] <humdinger> cussing[18:14:34] <humdinger> cursing[18:14:38] <miqlas-H> (naivitaet...)[18:15:12] <Begasus> humdinger ... alles uber 23 ist zuviel fur mich ;)[18:15:33] <humdinger> Begasus: da schwitzen die Hunde, was?[18:15:35] <miqlas-H> Bega: wir haben es nicht gehört.[18:15:35] <Begasus> und drausen gibt es nur sonne :)[18:15:51] <miqlas-H> unter 14 es ist verboten, weisst doch, oder.[18:15:53] <miqlas-H> ?[18:16:00] <Begasus> die Hunde nicht alleine, die haben noch weniger last davon wie mich :)[18:16:48] <miqlas-H> oder ist es 15 in EU?[18:16:52] <humdinger> Begasus: Ja, aber dann bis spät abends mit einer flasche rotwein auf der terrasse sitzen... auch nicht schlecht.[18:17:06] <Begasus> im schatten ja :D[18:18:09] <miqlas-H> ich bin ja heute um 10 Uhr aufgestanden, und seitde war ich in Kneipe. Jetzt meldet meine laptop, dass Akku bald leehr wird.[18:18:17] <Begasus> auch die Hunde kommen im haus jetzt, ist ihnen auch zu heis[18:18:39] <Begasus> lol miqlas-H[18:18:49] <miqlas-H> Begasus: wieviel Grad habt Ihr da?[18:18:58] <humdinger> Begasus: just saw one of your dogs playing with another pet: https://imgur.com/sfs4e7o[18:19:18] <Begasus> ich denk etwas rund die 25 jetzt, alles sonne, kein wind ...[18:19:49] <miqlas-H> Hier umgefaehr die gleiche in Baden-Württemberg.[18:20:00] <miqlas-H> Keine Volken, nur Sonnenschein[18:20:47] <humdinger> I'm off for some dinner. see you later on my patio...[18:20:57] *** humdinger has quit IRC[18:21:03] <miqlas-H> noch 40 minute akkukapazitaet hat Haiku gemeldet. Das heisst, noch ein beier.[18:21:48] <miqlas-H> humdinger: jetzt wollte ich erklaeren, wie schöne Bedinerein haben wir hier...[18:21:53] <miqlas-H> zu spaet...[18:21:57] <Begasus> miqlas-H ... https://www.flickr.com/photos/begasus/[18:22:12] <Begasus> da stehen schon einige von eine weile her :)[18:22:25] <miqlas-H> Bega: ich verfolge deine fotostrip schon lange.[18:22:37] <Begasus> ah :D[18:23:03] <Begasus> da machst du mehr als mich ;) ist schon eine weile das ich die noch genutzt habe ;)[18:23:22] <miqlas-H> ich verflge jeder, noch solche auch, wer nur tangentell was mit Haiku machen auch,[18:24:07] <miqlas-H> sorry, ich hatte heute schon genug bier gehabt.[18:24:18] *** arroyoc has joined #haiku[18:24:20] <Begasus> da fehlt mir die zeit :/[18:24:58] *** Akuji has joined #haiku[18:24:59] <miqlas-H> ich habe urlaub heute, und dazu noch ich keine familie besitze, so es ist in ordnung[18:25:12] <Begasus> k .. back to English, ... have to step out :)[18:25:25] <miqlas-H> bye Bega[18:25:36] <Begasus> bi später miqlas-H ;)[18:25:46] *** Begasus is now known as Begas_[18:27:04] *** arroyoc has quit IRC[18:35:41] *** vidrep has joined #haiku[18:36:38] <vidrep> Hi[18:37:34] *** Negr0 has joined #haiku[18:39:00] <tsyesika> Hey, I've noticed if i create my own attribute for say video and i've listed it in tracker and edit it and tab across, it always skips over the one I added[18:46:56] <HAIKU-irker726> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev50287 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1231bfebe4b9+%5Ebd3f6a54ec86[18:46:57] <HAIKU-irker726> 1231bfebe4b9: Bluetooth Window: Layout tweaks[18:48:34] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[18:48:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[18:48:39] *** miqlas-H has quit IRC[18:54:00] <HAIKU-irker726> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev50288 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=9d48ecb522e8+%5E1231bfebe4b9[18:54:01] <HAIKU-irker726> 9d48ecb522e8: Bluetooth Window: Defaults and Revert on left[18:55:10] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[18:55:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Skipp_OSX[18:57:41] <humdinger> tsyesika: seems to work here... or I do something differently....[18:58:08] <tsyesika> do you just alt-e and tab?[18:58:18] <humdinger> yes.[18:58:51] <humdinger> did you use FileTypes prefs to create the new ttribute?[18:59:09] *** jjido has quit IRC[19:00:21] <tsyesika> yep[19:00:40] *** soakbot has quit IRC[19:00:42] <humdinger> hmm.. you checked the "Editable" checkbox?[19:01:14] *** soakbot has joined #haiku[19:01:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[19:01:21] <tsyesika> no >.< thanks again, I feel like an idiot xD[19:01:30] <humdinger> heh :)[19:03:10] <tsyesika> given the attribute doesn't exist I doubt it but I don't suppose a playcount exists[19:03:30] <tsyesika> maybe if people want it i can try and create a patch, i doubt it's too difficult to add to MediaPlayer[19:04:09] <humdinger> Sounds like a good idea.[19:04:43] <humdinger> Make sure that MP had to play a file for more than, say 75%, to increase the playcount.[19:04:53] <tsyesika> yeah i was thinking that[19:04:56] <humdinger> only skipping thru them doesn't count :)[19:05:51] <Skipp_OSX> how would you determine that though?[19:06:05] <tsyesika> I guess maybe what could happen is keep track of how much the media has been played and see if it's over 50% or something and if so then increment the playcount[19:06:12] <tsyesika> that'd be really useful for me[19:06:17] <Skipp_OSX> iTunes does a similar thing, not sure how that app works either[19:06:52] <humdinger> Skipp_OSX: with "skipping thru" I menat not within one song, but thru a couple of songs.[19:07:03] <Skipp_OSX> humdinger, I understand[19:07:20] <humdinger> once you've reched the 75% length of a song, increase the playcount[19:07:35] *** Akuji has quit IRC[19:08:17] <Skipp_OSX> humdinger, how do you determine that you've reached 75% the length of a song?[19:08:55] <Skipp_OSX> maybe something in Media Kit can help with that?[19:09:08] <humdinger> I guuess from the total length of the song compared to the played length...[19:11:00] <tsyesika> I think you'd probably have to keep track of it right? keep track of how long it's played. I imagine that data isn't been kept track of at the moment[19:12:25] <humdinger> I'd imagined, before the user skips to the next track or quits MP, look at the current time, compare to the total time and then increase the playcount or not.[19:13:35] <Skipp_OSX> humdinger, what if you skip ahead in the file beyond 75%, does it still increase the play count?[19:13:52] <tsyesika> hm... I'm thinking i sometimes skip ahead in a file to show someone a scene or to see if i have seen it before and if i skipped/seeked past 50% or 70% i wouldn't want the playcount to be incremented[19:14:14] <tsyesika> I'd only want that if i had actually watched/listened to over 75%[19:14:53] <humdinger> for that the algorithm is too dumb of course. :)[19:15:47] <humdinger> but what if in the middle you phone rings, and you couldn't concentrate. should it count? :=[19:16:18] *** vidrep has quit IRC[19:16:32] *** leszek has quit IRC[19:18:22] <humdinger> I'm not sure it has to be that precise. I'd expect the skip ahead situations are significantly low, that they can be ignored. I may be wrong though...[19:18:35] <tsyesika> yeah[19:18:38] <tsyesika> maybe you're rightw[19:18:43] <tsyesika> *would make the code much simpler too[19:18:48] <humdinger> maybe train yourself to rewind back before the 75% mark in such cases to avoid playcout increase. :)[19:20:04] <jessicah> it already has to update the slider[19:20:52] <jessicah> just add a counter variable as well that increments when updating the slider position[19:22:11] <jessicah> when the track stops or finishes, reset it to zero[19:22:57] <jessicah> and update play count of[19:23:33] <jessicah> if it's played enough[19:23:52] <humdinger> so you're only counting the seconds that are actually played.[19:24:22] <jessicah> yeah[19:24:23] <Skipp_OSX> in the Pulse() method I guess?[19:24:46] <jessicah> you can use the Mim[19:24:55] <jessicah> bah stupid phone[19:25:28] <jessicah> you can use the slider values to figure out how much has played[19:25:50] <jessicah> probably, I don't know how it's done[19:26:04] <Skipp_OSX> me neither, just speculating[19:26:13] <jessicah> anyway, seems very straightforward to me[19:26:30] *** dorje has joined #haiku[19:26:37] <humdinger> let tsyesika a bit of fun of figuring it out. :)[19:28:40] *** dorje has quit IRC[19:28:43] <tsyesika> heh :) yeah[19:28:51] <tsyesika> i shall file the bug before i forget[19:34:35] <tsyesika> ticket created :)[19:34:43] <tsyesika> maybe i can hack some on it this weekend if i have time[19:34:52] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[19:35:05] <tsyesika> anyway, gotta go, be back later (maybe)[19:35:12] * humdinger waves[19:49:51] *** tqh has joined #haiku[19:49:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[19:50:18] *** MrSunshine_ has joined #haiku[19:51:18] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[20:02:03] *** illwieckz has quit IRC[20:02:45] *** humdinger has quit IRC[20:11:30] *** Skipp_OSX has quit IRC[20:13:09] *** Edwinr has quit IRC[20:15:27] *** illwieckz has joined #haiku[20:27:12] *** Nothing_Much has quit IRC[20:28:51] *** akshayjaggi has joined #haiku[20:30:59] *** akshayjaggi is now known as ghost_rider[20:35:00] *** ghost_rider has quit IRC[20:35:40] *** ghost_rider has joined #haiku[20:36:21] *** ghost_rider has quit IRC[20:36:40] *** ghost_rider has joined #haiku[20:48:15] <HAIKU-irker726> haiku.master: nielx * hrev50289 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=9c59cb069207+%5E9d48ecb522e8[20:48:16] <HAIKU-irker726> b98538a5b594: Remove duplicate welcome and userguide directories[20:48:17] <HAIKU-irker726> 9c59cb069207: Update userguide translations, leavengood as nielx[20:50:39] *** ghost_rider has quit IRC[20:52:00] *** cucujoidea has joined #haiku[20:56:03] *** Begas_ has quit IRC[20:57:17] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[21:09:14] *** tojoko has joined #haiku[21:10:08] *** Barrett has quit IRC[21:12:26] *** Edwinr has joined #haiku[21:17:40] *** ghost_rider has joined #haiku[21:18:39] *** jjido has joined #haiku[21:24:42] *** arroyoc has joined #haiku[21:27:24] *** ghost_rider has quit IRC[21:35:15] *** arroyoc has quit IRC[21:37:20] *** orealis has quit IRC[21:37:21] *** anijain has joined #haiku[21:40:35] <Paradoxon> my autostart doesnt work anymore.. since my child excidently delted my whole settings directory[21:40:41] <Paradoxon> any hints[21:40:45] <Paradoxon> how to trace the error?[21:40:57] <Paradoxon> or what could be the error ?[21:41:26] <Paradoxon> i created /boot/home/config/settings/boot/launch[21:41:31] <Paradoxon> and put some apps in there..[21:41:41] <Paradoxon> but on boot up there is nothing booted :/[21:42:14] <jessicah> that's an odd situation to be in :o[21:42:20] <Paradoxon> :-D[21:42:33] <jessicah> should probably prevent certain folders from being deleted full-stop[21:42:40] <Paradoxon> she was 11 month..[21:42:44] <Paradoxon> still managed to do so :-D[21:42:44] <jessicah> :p[21:43:11] <jessicah> learning to hack computers at a very young age![21:43:11] <jessicah> haha[21:43:46] <Paradoxon> :-D[21:46:14] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[21:46:18] <Paradoxon> so any hint to diagnose?[21:46:24] <Paradoxon> the behavior?[21:53:56] *** arroyoc has joined #haiku[22:00:16] <Paradoxon> where is the autostart path specified?[22:00:31] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[22:03:33] *** jjido has quit IRC[22:03:54] <jessicah> I don't know; don't have a haiku system at my fingertips atm[22:04:17] <jessicah> maybe you could download a raw image and copy the default settings from the image to your system[22:04:38] <jessicah> should be able to double-click it (might need to do twice) to mount the raw image[22:05:16] <jessicah> unless you have a bootable haiku usb stick or something you could copy them from[22:11:53] <bbjimmy> Paradoxon user boot script:[22:11:53] <bbjimmy> for file in $HOME/config/settings/boot/launch/*[22:11:54] <bbjimmy> do[22:11:54] <bbjimmy> /bin/open "$file" &[22:11:55] <bbjimmy> done[22:12:46] <bbjimmy> place in /boot/home/config/settings/boot[22:14:23] <Paradoxon> ohh[22:14:25] <Paradoxon> thanks[22:14:37] <bbjimmy> :)[22:18:57] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[22:19:50] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[22:20:28] <Paradoxon> ok i think i need a restart to test this[22:20:35] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[22:22:32] *** bbjimmy has joined #haiku[22:28:18] <tqh> is the vmware gfx driver working?[22:30:37] *** ghost_rider has joined #haiku[22:31:06] <mmu_man> dunno[22:31:14] <mmu_man> the vbox one is broken FWIW[22:31:24] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[22:35:27] *** ghost_rider has quit IRC[22:35:30] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[22:37:23] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[22:39:45] <tqh> ooh it seems to work. Why was it removed.[22:53:26] *** bbjimmy has quit IRC[23:05:31] *** jjido has joined #haiku[23:16:10] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[23:16:38] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[23:19:40] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC[23:19:52] *** Paradoxon has joined #haiku[23:28:37] *** cucujoidea has quit IRC[23:30:12] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[23:30:12] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[23:33:03] *** arroyoc has quit IRC[23:35:50] *** jjido has quit IRC[23:36:19] <HAIKU-irker726> haiku.master: waddlesplash * hrev50290 [8 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e20d72d94730+%5E9c59cb069207[23:36:20] <HAIKU-irker726> 73f5ab0cf677: bluetooth_server: Don't show an error when the Prefs app couldn't start.[23:36:21] <HAIKU-irker726> b984932928e2: bluetooth_server: Make the replicant remove itself if the server isn't running.[23:36:22] <HAIKU-irker726> ebb0fb0364f0: bluetooth_server: Don't dereference before NULL check.[23:36:23] <HAIKU-irker726> f52a021a330e: preferences/bluetooth: Add some missing NULL checks.[23:36:24] <HAIKU-irker726> f7359bb49a72: preferences/bluetooth: Make the "show debug" menu item actually work.[23:36:25] <HAIKU-irker726> 0cce7d31c568: bluetooth_server: Remove the "show debug console" item from the replicant.[23:36:26] <HAIKU-irker726> aa0020bf0746: preferences/bluetooth: Remove last non-layout code.[23:36:27] <HAIKU-irker726> e20d72d94730: preferences/bluetooth: Remove a bunch of needless debug statements.[23:38:11] *** jjido has joined #haiku[23:45:35] *** dorje_ has joined #haiku[23:49:34] *** dorje_ has quit IRC[23:52:42] *** jjido has quit IRC[23:56:05] *** Paradoxon has quit IRC