May 4, 2016 
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May 4, 2016 [00:05:35] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[00:05:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[00:10:15] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[00:12:10] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[00:12:29] *** Malmis_ has quit IRC[00:19:17] *** stippi_ has joined #haiku[00:19:17] *** stippi has quit IRC[00:27:52] *** DingoSaar has quit IRC[00:30:32] *** DingoSaar has joined #haiku[00:43:03] *** earthnative has quit IRC[00:43:12] *** earthnative has joined #haiku[00:44:53] *** DCatt has joined #haiku[00:47:18] *** DingoSaar has quit IRC[00:54:48] <bbjimmy> I think this recipe is good to merge[01:05:47] <bbjimmy> https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/580[01:13:15] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[01:13:32] *** Nothing_Much has quit IRC[01:14:46] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[01:25:17] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[01:30:17] *** Nothing_Much has joined #haiku[01:49:27] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[01:52:58] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[02:12:15] *** Negr0 has quit IRC[02:15:25] *** Paianni has quit IRC[02:45:59] *** stippi has joined #haiku[02:45:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[02:47:33] *** stippi_ has quit IRC[02:52:15] <dkasza> what is the easiest way to rebuild the kernel and c library and install it?[02:52:50] <dkasza> I would prefer a way that leaves the OS operational... if I build haiku.hpkg and install it, all sorts of bad things happen...[02:53:47] <dkasza> like, I can only do it once, if I rebuild and try to install the new package, it fails and I have to reinstall the OS (or restore a snapshot) to try again[02:54:14] <dkasza> also, I cannot build software after I install my own haiku.hpkg[02:54:25] <dkasza> so things are weird[03:00:14] <bbjimmy> dkasza I would guess installing your own haiku.hpkg de-installs a lot of things that depend on the haiku.hpkg.[03:02:58] <dkasza> bbjimmy, surprisingly, it doesn't do that the first time[03:03:26] <dkasza> the second time, however, after pkgman tells me the installation is done, a window pops up that tells me I have to uninstall everything[03:03:34] <dkasza> seems inconsistent[03:03:53] <dkasza> also, this is what was recommended on the mailing list a while back[03:03:57] <bbjimmy> package management still has some bugs[03:04:07] <dkasza> I am really just trying to find out how others deal with this[03:04:37] <dkasza> it's difficult to add new features this way[03:06:33] <bbjimmy> I would think you could drop the kernel and c library in its own .hpkg and install. The newer files should trump the older ones. ??[03:07:01] <bbjimmy> thus just replacing two files.[03:08:08] <bbjimmy> note: kernel stuff and the package manager are over my head.[03:09:03] <dkasza> http://www.freelists.org/post/haiku-development/replacing-kernel-was-Re-replacing-runtime-loader,1[03:09:09] <dkasza> I was going by this[03:09:25] <dkasza> I will probably have to write on the list...[03:11:55] *** stippi_ has joined #haiku[03:11:55] *** stippi has quit IRC[03:20:18] *** DCatt has quit IRC[04:21:26] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[04:21:50] *** swift110-phone has joined #haiku[04:41:57] *** stippi has joined #haiku[04:41:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[04:41:57] *** stippi_ has quit IRC[04:48:43] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[05:16:05] *** waddlesplash has quit IRC[05:21:09] *** vezhlys has quit IRC[05:46:38] <jessicah> dkasza: you just hit escape when the window pops up[05:46:47] <swift110-phone> hey jessicah[05:47:17] <jessicah> it's a problem with unversioned package names I think[05:47:41] <jessicah> hihi[05:48:05] <swift110-phone> how r u jessicah[05:48:10] <jessicah> I'm fine[05:48:29] <jessicah> dkasza: I install the .hpkg files from the generated/objects directory all the time to test changes[05:48:43] <jessicah> it works fine; just need to ignore the package window that pops up[05:49:17] <jessicah> you'll also want to clean out the previous package states in the packages/administrative folder... it will use up disk space quickly otherwise[05:51:02] <swift110-phone> good[05:51:32] <swift110-phone> are you guys using haiku as a desktop[05:51:58] <dkasza> jessicah: thanks, I'll try that... I think I tried hitting cancel and it didn't work...[05:52:12] *** LeandroLuiz has quit IRC[05:52:19] <dkasza> jessicah: it would still be really nice if I could just update the couple of files that really need to be updated[05:52:44] <jessicah> yes it would...[05:52:58] <jessicah> I as it as my desktop OS on and off[05:53:54] <swift110-phone> why ona[05:53:56] <swift110-phone> y[05:54:03] <swift110-phone> why on and off[05:54:08] *** waddlesplash has joined #haiku[05:54:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o waddlesplash[05:54:46] *** LeandroLuiz has joined #haiku[06:20:06] *** dkasza has quit IRC[06:20:55] *** FlyingJester has joined #haiku[06:22:24] *** stippi has quit IRC[06:23:01] *** stippi has joined #haiku[06:23:01] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[06:29:10] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[06:42:59] *** swift110-phone has quit IRC[06:44:22] *** vdamewood has joined #haiku[06:49:00] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[07:03:52] *** zzzzzzzzz has quit IRC[07:04:59] *** zzzzzzzzz has joined 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#haiku[16:05:17] *** Sandronimus has quit IRC[16:07:31] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[16:08:34] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[16:12:25] <bbjimmy> Is there a recent change to the screensaver appi?[16:13:21] <bbjimmy> Several screensavers no-longer run ... hrev50260[16:14:02] <bbjimmy> "Could not load screen saver"[16:18:02] *** kushalsingh007 has joined #haiku[16:26:17] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[16:31:37] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[16:33:32] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[16:38:37] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[16:41:25] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[16:41:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[16:46:21] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[16:47:34] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[16:48:44] *** kushalsingh007 has quit IRC[16:51:13] <bbjimmy> Found it ... hrev50226[16:55:20] *** humdinger has quit IRC[16:55:26] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[16:55:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o humdinger[16:57:00] *** vezhlys has joined #haiku[17:09:54] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[17:14:58] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://git.io/vw5uC[17:15:00] <Not-b880> [haikuports] fbrosson 93e8a56 - re2c: rewrite recipe and bump to 0.16.[17:20:25] *** GeneralDuke has quit IRC[17:52:51] *** Negr0 has joined #haiku[17:54:55] *** kushalsingh007 has joined #haiku[17:58:14] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[18:06:25] *** stippi has quit IRC[18:09:24] *** Akuji has quit IRC[18:20:04] *** soakbot has quit IRC[18:20:18] *** soakbot has joined #haiku[18:20:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v soakbot[18:31:21] *** jjido has quit IRC[18:46:50] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[19:08:09] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[19:10:01] *** miqlas has quit IRC[19:13:20] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[19:16:29] <HaikuUser> trying Haiku in qemu (freebsd host)[19:18:01] <HaikuUser> quite snappy.. actually usable - nice and lightweight (on this machine most os are way too slow in qemu)[19:23:07] <HaikuUser> liking this[19:30:55] *** fermi2 has joined #haiku[19:33:50] *** miqlas-H has joined #haiku[19:34:03] <miqlas-H> Hi Guys![19:34:10] <miqlas-H> Greetings from pub :)[19:35:46] *** jjido has joined #haiku[19:36:58] <HaikuUser> pub?[19:38:50] *** cucujoidea has joined #haiku[19:39:23] <HaikuUser> yay it has locate :-)[19:39:29] *** Nothing_Much has quit IRC[19:47:50] *** HaikuUser has left #haiku[19:48:12] *** michaelmd has joined #haiku[19:48:46] <michaelmd> ok found where to change the nick :-)[19:48:49] *** [Beta] has joined #haiku[19:49:10] <humdinger> Hi michaelmd. :)[19:50:11] <michaelmd> trying it out.. nice fat-free os .. fast enough to be usable in qemu on this machine![19:50:56] <michaelmd> liking very much[19:51:02] *** johndrinkwater has quit IRC[19:51:27] <humdinger> I never tried qemu at all...[19:52:42] <michaelmd> I didn't have much success getting vurtualbox to work on this machine (freebsd) so using qemu[19:56:45] <humdinger> nothing beats running native :)[19:57:10] *** pdziepak has joined #haiku[19:57:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o pdziepak[20:00:02] *** humdinger has quit IRC[20:01:17] <michaelmd> yep .. will burn a cd and try it native.. need to dl the iso (using anyboot.image atm)[20:05:27] *** PasNox_ has joined #haiku[20:11:17] *** fermi2 has quit IRC[20:12:56] *** tqh has joined #haiku[20:12:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tqh[20:15:21] *** miqlas-H has quit IRC[20:16:53] *** miqlas has joined #haiku[20:32:33] *** MrSunshine has quit IRC[20:35:14] *** return0e has joined #haiku[20:41:03] *** Nothing_Much has joined #haiku[20:45:07] <michaelmd> screenshot - http://spraci.com/pages/Michael_MD/pages/haiku_in_qemu.png[20:46:09] *** MrSunshine has joined #haiku[20:49:37] <michaelmd> not its http://spraci.com/pages/Michael_MD/haiku_in_qemu.png (clipboard mot shared in qemu so had to type :([20:56:41] <pdziepak> michaelmd: -enable-kvm is missing in your qemu flags[20:57:35] <pdziepak> ah, i noticed a daemon now, in which case: -enable-kvm is missing in your os ;)[20:57:44] <pdziepak> too bad, since it makes a significant difference[21:00:24] *** leszek has quit IRC[21:00:26] <michaelmd> didn't know about the flags for kvm - Ill have to try that on my linux laptop[21:02:21] *** leszek has joined #haiku[21:02:31] <pdziepak> qemu on its own in an emulator so it is extremely slow (quite expected)[21:03:25] <pdziepak> with -enable-kvm qemu becomes just a wrapper for kvm which is a virtualizer and depending on the cpu features and the level of guest os optimization for the hypervisors can achieve nearly native performance[21:04:10] <michaelmd> anyway liking it .. will try it native .. most things are VERY slow in qemu on this machine, so guessing haiku is very fast native[21:05:10] *** miqlas_ has joined #haiku[21:05:34] *** miqlas has quit IRC[21:06:22] <michaelmd> yep .. but I don't think bsd has kvm .. but would probably work on my laptop (linux)[21:07:14] *** stippi_ has quit IRC[21:07:31] *** stippi has joined #haiku[21:07:31] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[21:07:59] *** 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version i mean[23:31:36] *** Paianni has joined #haiku[23:32:34] *** vdamewood has joined #haiku[23:42:11] <Diver> AlienSoldier: yeah, QupZilla 2.0 requires Qt 5.6 which requires Qt WebEngine based on Chromium and we have neither[23:44:05] <AlienSoldier> crapl, monoculture hit again[23:44:09] <AlienSoldier> *crap[23:45:39] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[23:46:45] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[23:47:45] <AlienSoldier> Webassembly can't come soon enough