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[00:03:46] <roptat> does BView::DrawBitmap take transparency into account?
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[00:05:05] <Skipp_OSX> roptat, well, it works like other drawing
[00:05:39] <Skipp_OSX> so, depending on your drawing mode and if you have transparency set and what color space you're in
[00:10:34] <roptat> ok
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[02:06:57] <Not-001> [haikuports] kallisti5 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/
[02:07:01] <Not-001> [haikuports] kallisti5 ad2c2e6 - Revert "llvm: make it work with haikuporter -S" This reverts commit fec97cb13d5627606a2c4efe5fbbeeea64c69173. This causes the LLVM package to not collect devel headers properly resulting in several package builds breaking.
[02:07:03] <Not-001> [haikuports] kallisti5 05e5c8b - llvm: Reintroduce just the libstdc++ requirement from fec97cb
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[02:22:38] <AlienSoldier> should we be able to print with BePDF now? I can't, i guess this is a driver problem then (i can't select the exact brother model number)
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[02:52:27] <waddlesplash> AlienSoldier: I have some BePDF patches that I did and I never upgrade it
[02:52:40] <waddlesplash> but yeah, if you can't print test pages, you can't print with BePDF
[02:53:23] <KapiX> waddlesplash, I heard you were working on making Qt build
[02:53:29] <KapiX> any progress?
[02:53:32] <waddlesplash> well, it builds all right
[02:53:39] <waddlesplash> why, are you a Qt developer?
[02:53:50] <KapiX> no, I tried to build it yesterday and there is error in webkit
[02:53:55] <waddlesplash> yep
[02:54:00] <waddlesplash> the recipe is br0ken
[02:54:31] <waddlesplash> KapiX: what do you need it for? bc for some purposes my build works, for others it's total junk
[02:54:44] <waddlesplash> so if you want it to write recipes for Calligra or something, it's probably suitable
[02:54:50] <waddlesplash> for actually using Calligra it's junk
[02:54:57] <KapiX> I wanted to build x86 package so I could make Perfectspot recipe
[02:55:03] <waddlesplash> ah, ok
[02:55:37] <waddlesplash> KapiX: I make no garuntees about its stability (and QtWebKit has known crashes right now), but here: https://github.com/qt-haiku/qt4
[02:55:56] <AlienSoldier> waddlesplash this is a multifunction printer. The linux insall i have was not working either, i needed to install the exact driver. The test page then mentioned CUPS 1.3.X so i assumed the printer would work in haiku also. But it seem that i am only hable to print with styled edit and Pe using PS or PLC5 type.
[02:56:11] <waddlesplash> oh, well if it works in Pe
[02:56:19] <waddlesplash> then it's probly BePDF's fault
[02:56:23] <waddlesplash> I'll take a look
[02:56:29] <waddlesplash> ...sometime in the next few monts
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[02:56:57] <AlienSoldier> waddlesplash i was wondering if it was printing in the text editor because it was in some kind of simpler text mode
[02:56:59] <waddlesplash> KapiX: I have a partially-updated recipe for Qt, but I reccomend avoiding Qt for now
[02:57:13] <waddlesplash> as I'll probably rename the Qt package before the next update
[02:57:33] <waddlesplash> so plz don't use it for anything but testing
[02:57:58] <AlienSoldier> i noticed webpositive don't even have a printing cappability
[02:58:03] <KapiX> ok, it's nothing very important
[02:58:17] <waddlesplash> AlienSoldier: well, that you know where to report
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[03:10:48] <HaikuUser> any command line code monkeys around to help ?
[03:15:53] <jessicah> what's the problem?
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[03:21:45] <HaikuUser> I figured it out, mkfs and haiku no longer support making fat32 or any other partitions besides befs and ntfs
[03:22:26] <HaikuUser> mkfs as buillt for haiku
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[03:23:23] <jessicah> huh, surprised it doesn't handle fat32
[03:23:28] <jessicah> we'll need that working again
[03:23:32] <jessicah> esp for uefi support
[03:23:39] <HaikuUser> it did prior to PM merge iirc
[03:23:47] <jessicah> feel free to add a ticket if it's a regression :)
[03:23:58] <jessicah> yeah, a lot of stuff seemed to go backwards with the PM merge
[03:24:01] <HaikuUser> I belive several exist already
[03:24:09] <jessicah> ah, link me one :)
[03:24:30] <jessicah> PM and master diverged for far too long, sadly
[03:24:53] <jessicah> things are slowly getting back on track though :)
[03:25:20] <waddlesplash> Yep, a few months and we might get a new alpha
[03:25:42] <jessicah> you're optimistic, waddlesplash ;)
[03:25:53] <jessicah> volunteering to be the release coordinator? :D
[03:26:03] <waddlesplash> I would but no time
[03:26:09] <waddlesplash> And I have no experience with that
[03:26:30] <jessicah> you know how to get experience right? ;)
[03:26:33] <waddlesplash> And I mostly would just give orders because my skill in writing apps is basica
[03:26:39] <waddlesplash> lly nil
[03:26:48] <waddlesplash> Haiku apps anyway
[03:26:55] <jessicah> waddlesplash: that's what you want most out of a release coordinator
[03:27:02] <jessicah> someone telling everyone else what to do
[03:27:08] <jessicah> it actually works best that way
[03:27:20] <HaikuUser> I thought there was a bug ticket for this, I geuss not
[03:27:36] <umccullough> i think the various filesystems were disabled in mkfs for a reason, but i don't remember what it was
[03:28:00] <umccullough> unless i'm thinking of something else
[03:28:26] <umccullough> actually, i'm thinking the other way around, initializing filesystems from drivesetup was disabled but still worked in mkfs
[03:29:29] <waddlesplash> umccullough: you can't do anything but Be and NTFS from drivesetup
[03:29:33] <HaikuUser> umccullough" according to mkfs on the latest nightly only ntfs and befs are supported
[03:29:45] <umccullough> oh good, sounds like they're in sync now at least
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[03:30:14] <waddlesplash> I thought we had write support for more than this?
[03:30:21] <umccullough> of course
[03:30:22] <jessicah> HaikuUser: if you can't find a ticket, feel free to add one
[03:30:27] <umccullough> mkfs != write support
[03:30:40] <waddlesplash> I thought mkfs makes file systems...?
[03:30:45] <jessicah> i'll have a look, as we definitely need to be able to make fat32 at some point
[03:30:46] <umccullough> how is that the same as write support?
[03:31:02] <waddlesplash> What's the use of making a fs you can't put anything on?
[03:31:11] <umccullough> um,
[03:31:15] <umccullough> your logic is backwards?
[03:31:27] <umccullough> you can write to it, just not make it?
[03:31:55] <umccullough> we have dosfat and ntfs write support
[03:32:35] <umccullough> at least, we did have dosfat write support at one point...
[03:32:49] <umccullough> not sure about ext2/3
[03:32:50] <HaikuUser> oh crap, I didn't log in
[03:32:51] <HaikuUser> lol
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[03:33:10] <SMCollins> lol
[03:33:32] <SMCollins> I'll go file a ticket
[03:33:32] <umccullough> eh, knew who you were anyway based on the IP address
[03:33:58] <umccullough> not too many michigan comcast users floating around here
[03:34:07] <SMCollins> umccullough: well, thats becuase your a web monkey
[03:34:22] <SMCollins> I should get a vpn tunnel
[03:34:23] <SMCollins> lol
[03:34:30] <SMCollins> urias get all tripped up
[03:35:02] <SMCollins> I gotta say, I;ve ben proven wrong, the PM stuff now that the apps are starting to trickle in, for the most part is working far better then expected
[03:35:40] <umccullough> it still needs some polish
[03:35:42] <umccullough> anyway, bbl
[03:35:45] <SMCollins> ttyl
[03:36:44] <SMCollins> I gotta run ttyl
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[03:38:22] <jessicah> i guess no ticket got created?
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[03:39:44] <waddlesplash> I think the consensus was no
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[07:31:22] <dnivra> Hey everybody!
[07:32:06] <dnivra> guess I missed few messages last night.
[07:32:26] <dnivra> umccullough: Thanks for adding the permissions! I'll post an entry in a day or two.
[07:32:40] <jessicah> heya :)
[07:32:55] <dnivra> jessicah: hey :)!
[07:33:43] <jessicah> haha, lots of enthusiasm :) hope it stays that way for some time ;)
[07:34:16] <dnivra> I'm hoping so too :).
[07:35:58] <umccullough> dnivra, no problem - let me know if you need anything else :)
[07:36:52] <dnivra> Skipp_OSX: Ah great! Thank you very much for that! Will definitely ask if I need help! I will write about the project in haiku-os.org and in the mailing list now that I have the permissions; you could take a look at that. I'll be posting regular updates too so you could also pitch in with suggestions then!
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[07:44:43] <Skipp_OSX> dnivra: okay great, see you there
[07:45:33] <dnivra> Also, I'm in UTC+5:30 so I'm probably active when most others aren't.
[07:45:57] <Skipp_OSX> yes, I should probably be asleep right now
[07:46:18] <Skipp_OSX> and I will be soon
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[07:47:38] <jessicah> i'm +12
[07:47:46] <jessicah> so will usually be around
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[08:51:38] <louisdem> Hello! :)
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[08:52:40] <jessicah> hihi :)
[08:53:17] <louisdem> How do you do, jessicah? :)
[08:53:27] <jessicah> still sick, but better
[08:54:15] <louisdem> oh, good. Still taking meds?
[08:54:22] <jessicah> yeah
[08:54:56] <louisdem> ok
[08:55:11] <jessicah> hopefully be back to being productive tomorrow
[08:56:31] <louisdem> Hopefully :)
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[09:16:32] <stargater> hi
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[10:37:22] <guillaum1> auronandace: hi. Not sure but I remember you ask if Jainka worked on HelenOS. It does now !
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[11:47:55] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] zooey pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±4] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports.cross/commits/
[11:47:57] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] zooey a6fc9e8 - Add missing checksums to legacy versions of binutils and gcc.
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[12:50:16] <choupy> umccullough: I have just signed to haiku-os.org and I am starting to work on my blog post! my username is... drumroll... choupy!
[12:52:49] <louisdem> humdinger: BShisen now builds without a problem, thanks to patches applied by pistooli. :)
[12:53:20] <louisdem> humdinger: And the gameplay is fine too, with sounds working...
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[13:14:42] <Diver> louisdem: maybe could you create a recipe for BShisen?
[13:15:34] <louisdem> I would like to, but I got no experience/knowledge regarding haikuporter :(
[13:15:46] <Diver> give it a try)
[13:16:12] <louisdem> Will try on a vm ...
[13:16:34] <Diver> I have some basic knowledge, so I can help you with the first steps while i'm here
[13:16:52] <louisdem> Good :)
[13:17:50] <louisdem> But first, I need to get the source with the resource file added for the resulting binary
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[13:19:09] <louisdem> Diver: wb
[13:19:30] <Diver> :)
[13:21:20] <louisdem> Diver: so, how does one start/invoke haikuporter? :)
[13:21:39] <Diver> you need to clone 2 repos
[13:21:54] <Diver> https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/wiki/Home
[13:22:03] <Diver> git clone https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports.git
[13:22:03] <Diver> git clone https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuporter.git
[13:22:41] <louisdem> hm... ok, just type that in Terminal?
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[13:23:04] <Diver> righ
[13:23:07] <Diver> t
[13:23:10] <Diver> :)
[13:23:12] <Stephane3> Hi everybody,
[13:23:18] <louisdem> ok :)
[13:23:24] <Diver> hey Stephane3
[13:23:38] <louisdem> Hello, Stephane3
[13:24:17] <louisdem> Diver: and then just type "haikuporter"?
[13:24:18] <Stephane3> I've spent all the night till 4 o'clock to share my internet connection from Airport to ethernet sharing.
[13:24:34] <Diver> louisdem: look at the wiki page
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[13:24:50] <louisdem> ok, will do. Thanks, Diver
[13:24:59] <Diver> you have to copy settings file
[13:25:12] <Diver> cp haikuporter/haikuports-sample.conf /boot/home/config/settings/haikuports.conf
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[13:25:37] <Diver> and then make a link
[13:25:38] <Diver> ln -s /boot/home/haikuporter/haikuporter /boot/home/config/non-packaged/bin/
[13:25:54] <Diver> and then just type "haikuporter" :)
[13:27:55] <Diver> there's a generic haiku app recipe in haikuporter dir
[13:28:02] <Diver> https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuporter/src/0a7246673ab949f89489ddf5155bd7a09f112f3e/generic/generic_haiku_app-1.2.3.recipe?at=master
[13:31:16] <Diver> you can copy it to /boot/home/haikuports/haiku-games/bshisen
[13:32:55] <Diver> firstly you need to create bshisen folder of cource
[13:33:12] <Diver> and rename the generic recipe to bshisen-1.4.recipe
[13:34:56] <Diver> when you finish writing it a simple "haikuporter bshisen" should create a hpkg package for you
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[13:35:49] <Diver> which you'll have to move to /system/packages folder
[13:37:26] <arfonzo> so simple :)
[13:37:33] <louisdem> :)
[13:37:49] <arfonzo> i wrote some articles on using haikuporter too, they may help you
[13:37:51] <Diver> if everything works as expected you can create an issue at https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/issues and attach your recipe there
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[13:39:06] <Diver> better yet is to make a pull request aka PR, but I don't know the procedure unfortunately
[13:39:15] <Diver> arfonzo: maybe you do?)
[13:39:50] <arfonzo> sure, if you have an account on bitbucket, the best way is to fork the official haikuports repo, make a branch for your project, then make a push request from your branch
[13:40:04] <arfonzo> pull req, sorry
[13:41:07] <Diver> maybe a more detailed explanation could be a part of your next article? ;)
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[13:42:39] <KapiX> Diver: https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/BITBUCKET/Use+your+repository
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[13:49:10] <Diver> KapiX: thanks)
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[15:15:11] <irker-849> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev47158 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=179c6ec+%5Ee70c4c6
[15:15:12] <irker-849> 804056a: More tweaks to the HTML related sniffing rules:
[15:15:12] <irker-849> 179c6ec: Remove some traces sent to application stdout.
[15:25:07] <DonLiu> Webpositive just collapsed when I run Haiku in vmware, I think it may be caused by low memory.
[15:25:34] <DonLiu> here are the syslog
[15:26:02] <DonLiu> KERN: low resource memory: warning -> critical
[15:26:04] <DonLiu> KERN: 0xd0546d90->VMAnonymousCache::_Commit(126976): Failed to reserve 126976 bytes of RAM
[15:26:05] <DonLiu> KERN: vm_soft_fault: va 0xbbadb000 not covered by area in address space
[15:26:07] <DonLiu> KERN: vm_page_fault: vm_soft_fault returned error 'Bad address' on fault at 0xbbadbeef, ip 0x1a3fd4f, write 1, user 1, thread 0x744
[15:26:08] <DonLiu> KERN: vm_page_fault: thread "WebPositive" (1860) in team "WebPositive" (1860) tried to write address 0xbbadbeef, ip 0x1a3fd4f ("???" +0x1a3fd4f)
[15:26:10] <DonLiu> KERN: low resource memory: critical -> warning
[15:26:11] <DonLiu> KERN: thread_hit_serious_debug_event(): Failed to install debugger: thread: 1860: Bad port ID
[15:26:13] <DonLiu> KERN: low resource memory: warning -> normal
[15:26:29] <PulkoMandy> yes, looks like a webkit crash because of low memory...
[15:26:40] <PulkoMandy> not sure we can intercept those...
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[15:30:17] <DonLiu> I find another porblem. when I drag mediaplayer to another workplace, part of its UI remains in the first workspace's desktop. do you met this problem?
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[15:33:38] <Diver> I think there was a ticket for this problem
[15:34:49] <Diver> DonLiu: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/6722 does it look like what you're seeing?
[15:35:53] <DonLiu> yes, thanks Diver
[15:37:59] <Diver> np
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[15:38:51] <Diver> DonLiu: could you update the ticket stating that you can still reproduce it with your revision?
[15:39:28] <DonLiu> ok
[15:39:54] <Diver> cool, thanks
[15:40:18] <DonLiu> np :)
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[17:00:20] <stargater> hi
[17:02:33] <auronandace> greetings
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[17:44:47] <irker-849> haiku.master: korli * hrev47159 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=dba5c2a+%5E179c6ec
[17:44:47] <irker-849> dba5c2a: Added license file for MPL 2.0.
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[18:33:59] <irker-849> haiku.master: korli * hrev47160 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=6e9926d+%5Edba5c2a
[18:33:59] <irker-849> 6e9926d: MPL 2.0: added a v in the name
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[19:14:16] <Not-001> [haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+4/-4/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/
[19:14:20] <Not-001> [haikuports] korli cf9d970 - upgrade scons, libdvdnav, libdvdread, fftw.
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[19:53:22] <Not-001> [haikuports] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/
[19:53:26] <Not-001> [haikuports] kallisti5 5383dbb - mesa: Add 10.1.1 recipe
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[20:52:08] <irker-849> haiku.master: kallisti5 * hrev47161 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=5153d5e+%5E6e9926d
[20:52:09] <irker-849> 5153d5e: mesa: Add x86 10.1.1-1 build package based on recipe
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[21:07:02] <Subsentient1> is it possible to upgrade the OS without a reinstall?
[21:07:08] <Subsentient1> e.g. package manager?
[21:07:37] <Skipp_OSX> Subsentient1, not quite yet...
[21:07:47] <Skipp_OSX> there was some recent discussion on that topic on the ml
[21:08:04] <Skipp_OSX> you can do it, it works, mostly, but it's not a supported option at this time
[21:08:48] <Skipp_OSX> the reason that it isn't supported is because currently all packages are instantly activated when installed, what we need to do to make system upgrading possible to to install a package but only activate it after a reboot.
[21:09:13] <Skipp_OSX> because it's not possible to live upgrade a running system
[21:09:52] <Subsentient1> XkThen can I get the instructions?
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[21:09:56] <Subsentient1> orealSk
[21:09:59] <Subsentient1> Skipp_OSX:
[21:10:33] <Skipp_OSX> afaik you update your haiku package with pkgman, cross your fingers and reboot
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[21:12:12] <confamuse> what about booting a current image, running the installer and point it to the older version of haiku?
[21:12:35] <Skipp_OSX> confamuse, sure, that works
[21:12:37] <KapiX> confamuse, it wipes out system folder
[21:12:55] <Skipp_OSX> yes, it will wipe your system folder...
[21:12:58] <KapiX> so you have to reinstall your packages
[21:13:03] <Skipp_OSX> but leave your home folder alone
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[21:44:16] <Lelldorin1> http://haikuware.com/remository/view-details/development/app-installation/hpkgcreator
[21:48:26] <jessicah> neat!
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[21:59:45] <Lelldorin1> thanks
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[23:30:01] <nathanhi> AMIGAAAAAH
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