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[00:04:43] <irker-367> haiku.master: korli * hrev47121 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1a8c694+%5E0c11998
[00:04:44] <irker-367>     1a8c694: less: use the outsourced packages.
[00:08:08] <Not-001> [haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/
[00:08:11] <Not-001> [haikuports] korli 9a4bd0f - less: added checksums.
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[02:10:55] <irker-367> haiku.master: anevilyak * hrev47122 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=b37b017+%5E1a8c694
[02:10:56] <irker-367>     b37b017: Update gcc, cmake and haikuwebkit packages for x86.
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[07:28:38] <Not-001> [haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/
[07:28:41] <Not-001> [haikuports] korli 0f317c4 - less: bump revision
[07:29:13] <irker-367> haiku.master: korli * hrev47123 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=29a4992+%5Eb37b017
[07:29:13] <irker-367>     29a4992: less: rebuild x86 and x86_64 packages.
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[07:48:53] <jessicah> \o/
[07:49:01] <jessicah> 5-day weekend begins
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[07:53:55] <AlienSoldier> jessicah that sound enough to finish Haiku right? :P
[07:55:01] <jessicah> ;)
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[07:57:13] <AlienSoldier> found 14 bug so far since i use it daily
[07:57:58] <AlienSoldier> wanted to get a bunch before doing ticket because i need to read a bunch of ticket to not sure i enter duplicate
[07:57:59] <jessicah> :)
[07:58:33] <jessicah> well, duplicates you do find, prolly doesn't hurt to bump them if they're not very active looking
[07:58:34] <AlienSoldier> *to be sure i do not :)
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[08:02:30] <AlienSoldier> bed time, good night
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[10:44:46] <jessicah> seems i've been chasing what boils down to linking issues for days ._.
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[11:13:35] <Not-001> [haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/
[11:13:38] <Not-001> [haikuports] Adrien Destugues bd8bafd - Add libexecinfo from FreeBSD * Implements backtrace() and a few other functions with the same API as glibc. * Useful for porting linux specific things, and for debugging.
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[11:30:32] <Tekn0> does SoundPlay work on Haiku? it's still closed source right
[11:30:33] <Tekn0> ?
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[11:32:12] <jessicah> still closed source afaik
[11:32:17] <jessicah> there was a version that worked
[11:32:23] <jessicah> i presume it still works
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[11:35:20] <PulkoMandy> yes, the latest version doesn't work because it uses private media kit methods which we don't implement
[11:35:27] <PulkoMandy> previous one should work
[11:36:43] <Tekn0> PulkoMandy, I see, thanks. I am guessing there is a haiku package of the one that works already.
[11:36:59] <PulkoMandy> no idea, I use APlayer
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[12:06:06] <Diver> Tekn0: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l9shruk4s58cyqc/soundplay-4.7.3-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg
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[12:06:42] <Diver> I made it a few months ago, dunno if it still works on current nightlies, but I think it should
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[12:08:33] <Tekn0> Diver, thanks
[12:09:03] <Diver> np
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[16:19:16] <Not-001> [haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/
[16:19:20] <Not-001> [haikuports] Adrien Destugues 25b53ae - libexecinfo: Fix installation to use proper soname
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[16:31:21] <guillaum1> hey
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[17:02:15] <cb88-haiku> so... Webpositive went missing from HaikuDepot after I messed with it a bit after a fresh install
[17:03:23] <cb88-haiku> Basically installed the package... the attepted to reinstall it got a "pending...." and it never did anything so I refreshed the depot and it was missing. HaikuWebkit uninstalled and reinstalled just fine though...
[17:03:38] <PlkMndy> yes, it's not in the repos because it's built with haiku
[17:03:59] <PlkMndy> rebooting may fix that, if the package is still in /system/packages
[17:05:21] <cb88-haiku> hmm... seems pretty counter intuitive. thanks brb
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[17:33:47] <cb88-haiku> downloaded the raw nightly image and copied the hpkg out of there... would have gotten it from the repository but the *119 revsion is missing
[17:34:21] <cb88-haiku> tried out a few videos on youtube... short ones work sometimes pretty neat to see it working.
[17:35:02] <PlkMndy> long videos work as well, but they are fully downloaded before replay start. may take some time
[17:35:12] <PlkMndy> and yes, not all videos work, still don't know why
[17:35:28] <cb88-haiku> Yes I figured that... don't have google fiber so its not really practical :D
[17:35:54] <cb88-haiku> well not all videos have HTML5 support... perhaps that isn't being detected correctly?
[17:37:39] <PlkMndy> maybe
[17:37:45] <cb88-haiku> Eh... I know at least on windows some videos only work with flash. I'll have to reboot and check seems like some of my personal might be like that.
[17:39:05] <cb88-haiku> At least in the meantime keepvid wized up and made java non madatory again...
[17:42:48] <cb88-haiku> PlkMndy have you noticed some links have a black background? I'm seeing this on wikipedia
[17:44:26] <cb88-haiku> looks like it happens alot in the reference links
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[17:45:16] <cb88-haiku> Also html5test reports lack of ogg theora support which seems odd since Haiku uses ffmpeg...
[17:47:33] <PlkMndy> yes, still a problem with shadows on wikipedia links...
[17:47:51] <PlkMndy> and, we have to enable support for each video type by adding the mime types
[17:48:09] <PlkMndy> since I'm not sure what our ffmpeg actually supports, I'll wait until I find a website with a test video
[17:49:01] <cb88-haiku> ah ic well that explains that...
[17:49:47] <cb88-haiku> .... now that is rather interesting. Html5test lists new speech synth and regconition apis
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[18:22:58] <arfonzo> Does Haiku use the secondary DNS server defined in the network settings?
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[18:50:39] <cb88-haiku> arfonzo I guess you could test it by putting a bogus dns address in the first one.... it should retry on the secondary dns when the primary fails at least that is what I would expect.
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[18:52:05] <arfonzo> I'm doing it on a real DNS address in a split-brain setup, and exactly as you say, it seems to only resolve when the primary DNS server has a record for it
[18:55:25] <PlkMndy> arfonzo: I think if the first server says "not found", it decides the address doesn't exists
[18:55:36] <PlkMndy> but if the server doesn't reply at all, maybe it'll try secondary
[18:55:41] <PlkMndy> not sure about that
[18:55:50] <arfonzo> mmph, it shouldn't do that, if it does
[18:56:16] <PlkMndy> patches welcome ):
[18:56:17] <PlkMndy> :)
[18:56:33] <arfonzo> You had it right the first time, ): !
[18:56:56] <arfonzo> I'll do some more tests anyways, but this is what I seem to experience here.
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[19:08:09] <BeOSuser> wee
[19:08:14] <BeOSuser> is there anyone?
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[19:18:00] <puckipedia> Well, the Google code-in winners' trip has come to an end
[19:18:58] <puckipedia> It was pretty cool meeting scottmc
[19:21:12] <PlkMndy> :)
[19:21:20] <puckipedia> And umccullough too
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[19:22:13] <puckipedia> I actually got backgrounds working on the game scottmc was working on :-P
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[19:23:06] <puckipedia> Also, we got like three goodiebags, a Chromebook and a Nexus 5
[19:23:24] <PlkMndy> nice. and Haiku is not yet ported? :)
[19:23:40] <puckipedia> I don't think generous covers it
[19:23:59] <puckipedia> PlkMndy: it's an ARM Chromebook
[19:24:14] <puckipedia> So, I'll wait until after GSoC
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[19:24:22] <PlkMndy> mh, ok
[19:24:36] <PlkMndy> I have ordered this small ARM laptop, but it hasn't shipped yet
[19:24:44] <PlkMndy> I hope they don't cancel my order
[19:24:45] <puckipedia> DX?
[19:24:47] <PlkMndy> yes
[19:24:54] <puckipedia> Of course...
[19:24:58] <HaikuUser> PlkMndy: hey, I don't get those memory related crashed on the machine I am on, but the 8core piledrive AMD machine crashes all the time
[19:25:05] <PlkMndy> all other items in the order have shipped (in 2 separate packages the same day, whatever)
[19:25:42] <PlkMndy> HaikuUser: mh... may need to try different machines here then
[19:25:49] <HaikuUser> Both are amd cpus, this machine is a phenomII dual core, the other machine is a piledriver/bulldover octocore with 8gb of ram
[19:25:52] <puckipedia> Also, I got a Haiku t-shirt, a new and an old Haiku sticker, and...
[19:26:09] <HaikuUser> however the machine I am using has only 4gb, I'll try disabling some ram and see if the problem presists
[19:26:18] <PlkMndy> I have 8GB here
[19:26:36] <puckipedia> A boxed, sealed copy of Haiku R1 Alpha 4 :-P
[19:26:39] <HaikuUser> yeah, on my 8core machine webpositive is very crashy,
[19:26:47] <PlkMndy> puckipedia: collector item ! :)
[19:27:00] <HaikuUser> on this machine, the phenom, webpositive is very stable, and the media server crashes constantly on the other machine.
[19:27:19] <PlkMndy> oh, btw, I have mailed APC to ask for the sources for WM8880 kernel, they said Mozilla is working on opensourcing that
[19:27:29] <HaikuUser> If you can send me a email with some debugging instructions or let me know when you might be free on irc over a weekend, I'll make time to attempt debugging
[19:27:34] <PlkMndy> so an Haiku port to that laptop will be more easily possible
[19:27:55] <PlkMndy> I'll probably be online this weekend
[19:28:01] <puckipedia> HaikuUser: how does it crash?
[19:28:03] <PlkMndy> not sure what to try however
[19:28:17] <puckipedia> Does it have a serial port?
[19:28:34] <HaikuUser> puckipedia: memory related crashes and it does ut no connector but I think  have a header cable for it
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[19:29:02] <puckipedia> Oh, that would be pretty handy, if you can read the logs
[19:29:40] <SMCollis> yeah, I supposed I could
[19:31:05] <PlkMndy> if it's not a KDL you don't need serial debug
[19:31:16] <PlkMndy> save debugger reports and use libroot_debug
[19:31:30] <PlkMndy> however, if this is specific to one machine you may want to run memtest
[19:31:31] <SMCollis> how do I use libroot_debug ?
[19:31:42] <SMCollis> Yeah, I ran memtest, test ok
[19:31:52] <PlkMndy> LD_PRELOAD=/system/lib/x86/libroot_debug.so WebPositive ...
[19:32:10] <PlkMndy> this catches memory allocations problem earlier than the normal code
[19:32:11] <SMCollis> so do I enter that in terminal ?
[19:32:14] <PlkMndy> yes
[19:32:18] <PlkMndy> quit Web+ first
[19:32:26] <SMCollis> so start webpositive from terminal with that command
[19:32:29] <SMCollis> gotcha
[19:32:31] <PlkMndy> it will run it under debug mode, save report from that when it crashes
[19:32:33] <SMCollis> can you email that to me ?
[19:32:43] <PlkMndy> do yu have a mail address?
[19:32:51] <SMCollis> I also get crashes in the media server to, I keep wondering if this is a driver bug
[19:32:56] <SMCollis> yeah, you have it
[19:34:19] <PlkMndy> you may want to open a bugreport, telling the issues are hardware specific
[19:34:21] <SMCollis> i'll do that tonight
[19:34:24] <PlkMndy> with listdev and other relevant info
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[19:34:34] <PlkMndy> and ask if other people with similar hardware have the issue or not
[19:34:35] <SMCollis> ok, I'll do that tonight
[19:34:45] <PlkMndy> at least we'll gather some data this way
[19:35:03] <SMCollis> hows the webkit work comming ?
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[19:44:16] <cb88-haiku> 16Gb here... Web+ crashes randomly on mostly heavy webpages.
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[19:46:18] <cb88-haiku> One anoyng thing as since drivers are now in a read only FS... you can't delete them. So I can't work around my the nvidia accelerant loading and hosing up things. Its an Optimius laptop and I think it starts up the appserver on the nvidia chip except it isn't connected to the screen directly X.x
[19:47:17] <cb88-haiku> Its some initialization issue... since rebooting a couple times or booting into windows seems to make a difference.
[19:48:27] <PlkMndy> you can blacklist drivers
[19:48:48] <PlkMndy> https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/daily-tasks/blacklist-packages
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[19:52:10] <SMCollis> http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2013/09/force-youtube-to-use-html5-player.html
[19:54:28] <IIsi50MHz> youtube.com/html5
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[19:54:47] <IIsi50MHz> But not all videos will play when you use that method.
[19:55:45] <cb88-haiku> If they won't play that way... they aren't going to play regardless are they?
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[19:57:56] <cb88-haiku> PlkMndy thanks for the link.... I must say though that is a very clunkly way of blacklisting a driver or any file. I suppose ideally there would be blacklist option in the popup menu....in place of delete.
[19:58:02] <mmu_man> I really need to port weboob
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[20:00:07] <IIsi50MHz> weboob?
[20:00:41] <cb88-haiku> its a youtube downloader sort of thing.. a script I think it does other stuff too
[20:00:58] <PlkMndy> cb88-haiku: I think we're going to move drivers to separate packages, so you can delete the package with the problematic driver
[20:01:19] <PlkMndy> weboob scraps data from many web sites
[20:01:31] <PlkMndy> banks, libraries, whatever
[20:01:40] <IIsi50MHz> Also...tried using a couple of your update-related scripts. They both reported "nothing to do" even though I tried two semi and very-slightly out of date nightlies. So I assume I don't understand what they're meant to do.
[20:02:03] <PlkMndy> I think you need to add the "current" repo first
[20:02:20] <puckipedia> Yep, iirc
[20:02:24] <IIsi50MHz> Makes sense.
[20:02:48] * IIsi50MHz makes mental not to add a prompt for current repo
[20:02:56] <IIsi50MHz> note to
[20:03:20] <IIsi50MHz> Blah, I'm dropping random letters in the bitbucket. *shakes it* It's getting kinda heavy.
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[20:17:00] <Not-001> [haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuporter/commits/
[20:17:03] <Not-001> [haikuporter] kallisti5 a58e5be - lint: Allow users to scan port names * You can now specify a port name with --lint to lint scan a single port. * You have to pass the basename for this to work (you can't pass recipe versions yet) * Example: ./haikuporter --lint llvm * --lint with no package name results in a full tree scan as before. * Improvements welcome
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[20:53:32] <Wizard> #haiku-dev
[20:53:50] <Wizard> Uh, sorry.
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[21:44:16] <Not-001> [haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuporter/commits/
[21:44:19] <Not-001> [haikuporter] kallisti5 54bad92 - lint: Language cleanup
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[22:22:04] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports.cross/commits/
[22:22:07] <Not-001> [haikuports.cross] PulkoMandy 4287814 - Python: use out-of-source build This seems to work, whereas in-source build fails to build the modules.
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[22:57:06] <Not-001> [haikuporter] kallisti5 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuporter/commits/
[22:57:09] <Not-001> [haikuporter] kallisti5 a7e86ff - Add some colors to haikuporter errors / warnings. * Color codes are removed on non-tty consoles. (pipes,etc)
[22:57:12] <Not-001> [haikuporter] kallisti5 4bfdf45 - Add some colors to haikuporter errors / warnings. * Color codes are removed on non-tty consoles. (pipes,etc) * Feel free to tweak the colors if desired. These are the most "modern" colors.
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[23:21:51] <irker-367> haiku.master: korli * hrev47124 [1 commit] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4a4450c+%5E29a4992
[23:21:51] <irker-367>     4a4450c: less: sysless config file is part of the hpkg.
[23:23:34] <Not-001> [haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/
[23:23:37] <Not-001> [haikuports] korli fec54e4 - less: add a sysless config file.
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