April 10, 2014 
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April 10, 2014 [00:02:57] *** Premislaus has quit IRC[00:07:08] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[00:25:41] *** jua_ has quit IRC[00:29:46] *** PasNox has quit IRC[00:31:08] *** valeriusL has quit IRC[00:41:22] *** jrabbit has quit IRC[00:41:23] *** jrabbit has joined #haiku[00:44:07] *** bbjimmy-atwork- has joined #haiku[00:44:22] *** valeriusL has joined #haiku[00:50:43] *** SMCollins has joined #haiku[00:51:07] <SMCollins> youtube[00:54:57] *** vgezer has quit IRC[00:55:11] *** luroh has quit IRC[00:59:55] *** vgezer has joined #haiku[01:00:38] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[01:01:06] <SMCollins> youtube[01:01:16] <SMCollins> hey duggan[01:01:24] <mmu_man> don't say it 3 times or it might happen[01:01:30] <mmu_man> zz[01:01:37] <SMCollins> ebutuoy[01:01:53] <SMCollins> just enjoying some TED talks[01:02:04] <SMCollins> this one about bionics is fascinating[01:07:30] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[01:07:37] <SMCollins> simply amazing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdDjexbxVzM[01:07:50] <SMCollins> http://youtu.be/CDsNZJTWw0w[01:07:53] <SMCollins> sorry wrong link[01:12:19] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[01:13:38] *** SMCollins has quit IRC[01:14:53] *** epigraph has quit IRC[01:20:28] <freakazoid0223> beetlejuice! beetlejuice! beetlejuice![01:22:03] *** NumberNoid is now known as zz_NumberNoid[01:30:58] *** nighty-_ has quit IRC[01:34:49] <scanty> what's the easiest way to get the full path to your running application?[01:39:19] <Diver> scanty: maybe listimage ?[01:39:54] <scanty> i am having a problem with libxml. it doesn't like relative paths unless the application is run from the commandline.[01:45:30] *** mmadia has joined #haiku[01:57:15] <hamishm> scanty: you can iterate images with get_next_image_info and call get_image_info on the B_APP_IMAGE[01:59:05] <hamishm> or dladdr an address within your app's image[02:00:09] <scanty> ok, i'll look into that[02:00:12] <scanty> thanks.[02:06:56] <KapiX> mmadia: ping[02:07:14] *** Xenmen has quit IRC[02:17:43] *** Tzibu has quit IRC[02:31:28] *** KapiX has left #haiku[02:31:44] <briankrent> Just going to throw this into the channel if anyone has any suggestions...[02:33:47] *** oco2 has quit IRC[02:34:27] <briankrent> I installed haiku-nightly-hrev47105-x86gcc2hybrid-anyboot natively onto my ThinkPad X200t. Initially, my wi-fi interface showed up and connected to my wireless network via wpa_supplicant just fine. I rebooted the system and now my wi-fi network interface doesn't show up under Network anymore. Under Devices > Network controller > Intel Corporation Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300 > it says "Not implemented" under "Driver used". Thoughts?[02:35:45] <briankrent> Note: This is the first time I've natively installed Haiku on this hardware.[02:36:42] <briankrent> Also note: The wired network interface shows up fine.[02:38:01] *** vgezer has quit IRC[02:40:45] <jessicah> the Devices app doesn't work properly[02:41:00] <jessicah> so it's not a good indication. the fact it's listed probably means it has a driver[02:41:03] <briankrent> Noted.[02:41:22] <jessicah> i haven't used wifi on haiku in a long time though, might have to wait for someone else to help :([02:42:09] <jessicah> and i don't have a haiku install with wifi at hand to compare =/[02:42:26] <briankrent> Thanks for the info anyway. :)[02:42:33] *** vgezer has joined #haiku[02:51:31] *** vgezer has quit IRC[02:56:04] *** vgezer has joined #haiku[02:56:43] <mmadia> briankrent does a hard boot vs. a soft boot make a difference?[02:57:19] <mmadia> err, from completely powered off vs. a software reboot.[02:57:40] <briankrent> mmadia: Trying now.[02:57:59] *** vgezer has quit IRC[02:59:01] <briankrent> mmadia: It does not.[02:59:16] <briankrent> I'm going to reinstall again and see what happens.[02:59:17] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[02:59:34] *** mmadia has quit IRC[03:00:19] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[03:00:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[03:04:34] <briankrent> Note: Wi-fi interface came up just fine when booting from my Anyboot USB thumb drive.[03:05:30] *** vgezer has joined #haiku[03:07:53] <briankrent> I reinstalled. It came up on first boot and reboot just fine. Attempting to reproduce issue.[03:10:05] <freakazoid0223> is there something like dmesg you can comb through?[03:12:26] <briankrent> I really should have backed up my logs. I don't anymore since I just reinstalled.[03:12:54] <briankrent> Admittedly, I was kind of being causal about it and not seriously digging into the issue.[03:13:29] <briankrent> If I reproduce it again, I'll check the logs.[03:14:53] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[03:16:42] *** subcritical has quit IRC[03:18:23] *** hamishm__ has joined #haiku[03:19:37] *** kyzh__ has joined #haiku[03:19:40] *** bytemask_ has joined #haiku[03:21:42] *** GeekShad1w has joined #haiku[03:21:48] *** xyzzy__ has joined #haiku[03:22:15] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[03:22:19] *** Wizard has quit IRC[03:22:23] *** xyzzy has quit IRC[03:22:24] *** kyzh_ has quit IRC[03:22:26] *** _boot has quit IRC[03:22:30] *** bytemask has quit IRC[03:22:33] *** hamishm has quit IRC[03:22:34] *** GeekShadow has quit IRC[03:22:59] *** _boot has joined #haiku[03:22:59] *** _boot has joined #haiku[03:23:21] *** kyzh__ is now known as kyzh_[03:23:22] *** Wizard has joined #haiku[03:24:16] <briankrent> Well,... crud. I can't reproduce the issue. Everything is working fine.[03:24:32] <briankrent> If it fails again, I'll properly gather log info and post a bug report.[03:24:39] <briankrent> My bad.[03:24:55] *** vgezer has quit IRC[03:26:05] *** Kernel86 has joined #haiku[03:28:50] *** stargater has quit IRC[03:52:44] *** Duggan has quit IRC[04:04:44] *** bbjimmy-atwork- has quit IRC[04:04:44] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[04:20:37] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[04:24:55] *** Kernel86 has joined #haiku[04:28:10] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[04:30:43] *** Barrett has quit IRC[04:33:51] <[JJ]Albert> So, I can't remember, is kallisti5 involved in mesa stuff for haiku?[04:34:03] <[JJ]Albert> I mean, leading the work on that.[04:34:18] <[JJ]Albert> https://github.com/kallisti5[04:35:03] *** Cenbe has quit IRC[04:37:03] *** Cenbe has joined #haiku[04:37:59] <jessicah> yup[04:38:29] <jessicah> but he's been really busy lately, and also at a bit of a wall with mesa/gallium3d iirc[04:42:26] *** Duggan has quit IRC[04:51:43] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[05:00:27] *** pseudomind has joined #haiku[05:04:42] *** _marc` has quit IRC[05:08:55] *** Xenmen has joined #haiku[05:17:42] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[05:24:11] <[JJ]Albert> jessicah: Ah, okay.[05:38:44] *** Xenmen has quit IRC[05:42:29] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[05:44:04] *** Xenmen has joined #haiku[05:47:32] *** rta has quit IRC[05:57:15] *** hmstrmn has quit IRC[07:07:37] *** [JJ]Albert_ has joined #haiku[07:08:04] *** [JJ]Albert has quit IRC[07:09:23] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[07:09:54] *** [JJ]Albert has quit IRC[07:10:17] *** [JJ]Albert_ is now known as [JJ]Albert[07:11:09] *** [JJ]Albert_ has joined #haiku[07:11:30] *** [JJ]Albert has quit IRC[07:11:40] *** [JJ]Albert_ has quit IRC[07:12:49] *** [JJ]Albert has joined #haiku[07:14:09] *** rta has joined #haiku[07:32:48] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[07:33:18] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[07:33:28] <jessicah> https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10153260_10202934116106750_4936632107141617475_n.jpg[07:39:40] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[07:39:53] <jessicah> hey PulkoMandy[07:40:00] <PulkoMandy> hi[07:40:21] <jessicah> how's it looking for a new haiku/webkit release soon?[07:40:43] *** _marc` has quit IRC[07:42:09] <PulkoMandy> I'll probably package one today[07:43:37] *** Tzibu has joined #haiku[07:45:17] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[07:46:48] <jessicah> ah neat[07:46:55] <jessicah> the people will love you! ;)[07:49:31] <[JJ]Albert> PulkoMandy: Webkit as in the stuff chrome uses?[07:49:39] *** Xenmen has quit IRC[07:49:54] <[JJ]Albert> A bit out of the loop on Haiku development, but I came back around out of interest again.[07:50:00] <jessicah> web+ uses webkit[07:50:10] <[JJ]Albert> Oh, I see.[07:50:12] <jessicah> well, chrome has forked it into blink[07:50:16] <[JJ]Albert> WebPositive is webkit based.[07:50:19] <jessicah> but yeah[07:50:23] <[JJ]Albert> Oh right, chrome did fork.[07:50:59] <[JJ]Albert> I had forgotten chrome had forked, because I don't use it.[07:57:01] *** kcj has joined #haiku[08:01:10] <PulkoMandy> there is a lot of optional things in WebKit[08:01:28] <PulkoMandy> I'm enabling some of them as I progress, but I think we're still behind other ports[08:02:40] <pseudomind> by the way PulkoMandy, I must say that I look forward to reading your weekly updates every Friday.[08:03:07] <PulkoMandy> yes, I try to keep track of the progress[08:03:14] <[JJ]Albert> So anyways, I'm really thrilled by some of these updates.[08:03:26] <[JJ]Albert> But what is the idea about the current alpha release?[08:03:40] <[JJ]Albert> alpha 4, is there plans to go to the next accumulative version?[08:03:45] <pseudomind> well, I think it helps in other ways too. For one thing, I think it helps keep other people motivated.[08:03:56] <pseudomind> so you are doing quite a service to the project.[08:07:17] <[JJ]Albert> I mean, it all hinges on the nightly releases, really. But nevertheless, those ALPHA versions seem to roll out at least once a year.[08:07:41] <[JJ]Albert> Forgot what the plan was with revision titles, or what the roadmap is.[08:07:52] <[JJ]Albert> I'm really out of the loop here. So forgive me. :p[08:12:27] <pseudomind> I'm thinking at this point, it might make more sense to wait till after GSoC.[08:12:55] <[JJ]Albert> pseudomind: Yeh, probably so.[08:13:01] <[JJ]Albert> Just around the corner too.[08:13:22] <[JJ]Albert> I'm really more curious about what the roadmap is ATM.[08:13:23] <pseudomind> yeah, I'm really excited to see which projects end up getting selected[08:13:30] *** MatthewH12` has joined #haiku[08:14:03] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[08:15:50] <PulkoMandy> problem is, we were about to do a release, and people said "let's wait after we have merged package manager"[08:16:01] <PulkoMandy> then "let's wait faftr we have merged scheduler branch"[08:16:07] <PulkoMandy> then "let's wait afte rGCI"[08:16:12] <PulkoMandy> and now "let's wait after GSoC"[08:16:20] <PulkoMandy> I see a pattern of releases not happening[08:17:05] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[08:18:16] <pseudomind> yeah, that is probably why it's been so long since the last release[08:19:07] <pseudomind> I mean, it's all really important work but I suppose it does make it a little more diffuclt for new people to try it out.[08:21:06] <PulkoMandy> well, the problem is the releases should happen BEFORE such events as they tend to introduce regressions, but this takes some planning[08:21:25] <PulkoMandy> or a better policy of not letting people commit things to trunk without review[08:23:49] <jessicah> i guess to some extent, the kinda bad experience with alpha4 has put off wanting another release to some degree i think[08:24:31] <jessicah> but i think, with the html5 audio/video in place, it's likely a good time to start planning alpha5[08:25:24] <pseudomind> yeah, there are so many major improvements compared to alpha4, so any time now, would be okay I think[08:26:09] <jessicah> with the current gsoc proposals, really none of them come remotely close to affecting an alpha5 release[08:26:29] <jessicah> an arm port doesn't affect alpha5, porting Go doesn't affect alpha5[08:26:39] <jessicah> uefi support would be nice, but isn't required for alpha5[08:26:50] <jessicah> i can't remember what the other proposals were[08:27:37] <jessicah> maybe a little bit more work so one can do an in-place upgrade easily would be it[08:27:53] <jessicah> and then just some polish and nailing as many trac tickets as possible :p[08:30:09] <PulkoMandy> in-place upgrade is a new feature, so that's beta1[08:30:29] <PulkoMandy> and most of the bugs we have in the alpha5 milestone are for x86_64, which is actually R2[08:30:30] <pseudomind> have any of you guys ever seen a haikuporter error message like this -> " 'Port' object has no attribute 'recipeKeys' "?[08:30:30] <PulkoMandy> so...[08:30:52] <PulkoMandy> pseudomind: yes, you are missing PROVIDES or REQUIRES in the recipe[08:31:06] <pseudomind> ah okay… I'll check that right now[08:32:44] *** DKnoto_W has joined #haiku[08:33:26] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[08:33:31] *** epigraph has joined #haiku[08:35:44] *** kcj has quit IRC[08:36:12] <pseudomind> the strange thing is, I do have both of those sections in the recipe[08:36:22] <pseudomind> they only have a single item each, but I do have them.[08:37:02] <jessicah> syntax error perhaps?[08:37:17] *** alpha123 has quit IRC[08:37:21] <[JJ]Albert> PulkoMandy: in-place upgrade?[08:37:48] <PulkoMandy> the ability to update the system without rebooting[08:38:02] <jessicah> ohh... i had assumed including a reboot :p[08:38:14] <PulkoMandy> that's not the Haiku Way[08:38:28] <PulkoMandy> (and already works)[08:38:31] <pseudomind> that sounds awesome[08:39:10] *** alpha123 has joined #haiku[08:40:43] <[JJ]Albert> PulkoMandy: Interesting.[08:40:52] <[JJ]Albert> And you say this is an idea for beta1?[08:41:15] <PulkoMandy> yes, currently it is[08:41:33] <PulkoMandy> not sure it should be[08:42:46] *** soakbot has quit IRC[08:42:52] <pseudomind> so now I have to ask… why don't you think it should be an idea for beta1?[08:42:59] *** soakbot has joined #haiku[08:43:08] <[JJ]Albert> Yeah, do you mean you want to implement it sooner?[08:43:14] <[JJ]Albert> Or later?[08:43:37] *** arfonzo has quit IRC[08:43:54] *** arfonzo has joined #haiku[08:43:58] <PulkoMandy> I mean later[08:44:10] <PulkoMandy> the more things we put into beta1, the more we delay it[08:44:31] <PulkoMandy> I'd rather get beta1 (and R1) done, and move on to R2[08:44:49] <PulkoMandy> rather than trying to make R1 the ultimate and perfect release, but never finishing it[08:44:51] <arfonzo> ahoy, friends[08:45:23] <pseudomind> yeah, I can see what you are saying… it sounds like a nice feature, but there are more important things out there to get to first.[08:45:24] <[JJ]Albert> PulkoMandy: That's understandable.[08:46:40] <PulkoMandy> the idea of in-place upgrade was to provide an upgrade path from R1 to R2[08:47:03] <PulkoMandy> but there will probably be so much changes between major releases that a clean install would make more sense anyway[08:47:03] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[08:47:37] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[08:47:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[08:48:02] <[JJ]Albert> PulkoMandy: Say, not exactly Haiku related, but has anyone been talking about compatability layers?[08:48:26] <jessicah> to what?[08:48:37] <[JJ]Albert> linux.[08:48:43] <jessicah> why?[08:48:58] <jessicah> if you want to run linux, run linux :p[08:49:15] <[JJ]Albert> jessicah: Well, I didn't mean it in that sense.[08:49:43] *** arfonzo has quit IRC[08:49:58] <PulkoMandy> I don't see in which sense you mean then[08:50:00] *** arfonzo has joined #haiku[08:50:48] <[JJ]Albert> Um, well, I guess I was thinking in the sense of commercially driven stuff getting ported slower.[08:51:29] <[JJ]Albert> Then again, it's not really anything worth investing time in ATM. I was only asking if others have mentioned it before.[08:51:57] <arfonzo> Qt4: the only layer you need. I jest, I jest.[08:52:05] <pseudomind> goodnight all[08:52:44] <PulkoMandy> [JJ]Albert: I'm not opposed to it, but I think it's not up to the haiku project itself to handle this[08:52:59] <PulkoMandy> the 3rd-party Qt port is indeed a good example of how this can work[08:53:03] <[JJ]Albert> PulkoMandy: Yeah, hence why I've said Haiku-unrelated.[08:53:23] <[JJ]Albert> Not related to the haiku project, an aside taken up by someone else.[08:53:44] <PulkoMandy> I would say that great native apps are better, unfortunately there are also a lot of bad native apps these days :([08:54:13] <PulkoMandy> with most of our best developers busy on the OS itself :p[08:54:16] <[JJ]Albert> PulkoMandy: Well I think there''s some positive moves right now.[08:54:39] <[JJ]Albert> In that there's more companies going towards stuff like Linux. Haiku might also benefit from this.[08:54:55] <[JJ]Albert> Like, the obvious one right now being Valve and their steam stuff.[08:55:07] <[JJ]Albert> Slow as they are, they've really jumped onto it.[08:55:18] <PulkoMandy> well, as long as we don't have a proper web browser (getting there), 3d accel and an office suite, they're not going to take us seriously[08:55:37] <[JJ]Albert> Well I think it's getting there, PulkoMandy. I see some positive work here.[08:55:41] <[JJ]Albert> WebPositive work. :p[08:57:10] <PulkoMandy> yes[08:57:10] <arfonzo> indeed[08:57:33] <[JJ]Albert> Though again, I realize now that it's never that simple.[08:57:39] <PulkoMandy> but again, this is done as part of the Haiku Project. I'd really have preferred it to be a 3rd party development[08:58:02] <PulkoMandy> and I could have worked on OS things, like 3d accel or the ARM port, which are not things we can expect 3rd party people to do[08:58:32] <arfonzo> one day, we will be bitten by EU anti competition laws, when Haiku becomes the monopolistic OS, and comes packaged with a web browser. :|[08:58:35] <[JJ]Albert> Yeh, hence why you're eager to time manage goals for less important things, as opposed to the roadmap.[08:58:39] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[08:58:50] *** PasNox has quit IRC[08:59:11] <[JJ]Albert> Er, I meant "as opposed to sticking to the old roadmap"[08:59:11] *** seekwill has joined #haiku[08:59:32] <PulkoMandy> well, the "old roadmap" is "a binary compatible BeOS replacement"[08:59:37] <PulkoMandy> we're already way past that[09:00:06] <[JJ]Albert> PulkoMandy: Or the roadmap where built-in replacement was factored in?[09:00:11] <PulkoMandy> the problem is, there is no planning for beyond R1, no one knows what will happen[09:00:27] <PulkoMandy> so we tend to delay R1 as much as possible to avoid the unknown[09:00:45] <[JJ]Albert> Hmm, okay.[09:00:45] <jessicah> hey arfonzo[09:01:08] <arfonzo> ahoy![09:01:25] <jessicah> how goes?[09:01:37] <irker-296> haiku.master: pulkomandy * hrev47107 [5 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f325986+%5E6fd00f8[09:01:38] <irker-296> a68efa7: Add a mime type for XHTML and make Web+ the preferred app.[09:01:38] <irker-296> 41a807e: XHTML sniffing rule: handle utf-16 documents.[09:01:39] <irker-296> d946ade: ffmpeg: declare support for webm and 3gpp.[09:01:39] <irker-296> a8d8e82: HttpRequest: handle 302 and 307 redirects.[09:01:40] <irker-296> f325986: FileRequest: identify unknown files.[09:01:49] *** xyzzy__ is now known as xyzzy[09:02:07] *** xyzzy has quit IRC[09:02:07] *** xyzzy has joined #haiku[09:02:08] <[JJ]Albert> PulkoMandy: To be fair, I guess I'm forgetting that ultimately R1 wants to be binary compatible w/ BeOS.[09:02:11] <jessicah> oooh, more fixes :)[09:02:35] <arfonzo> jessicah: meh, sleepy... just grabbed a coffee here[09:02:37] <arfonzo> and you?[09:02:42] <PulkoMandy> jessicah: boring stuff, mostly for the testsuite[09:02:45] <jessicah> still miffed about my airbook[09:02:56] <arfonzo> ah damn, no resolution to that yet? :([09:03:07] <arfonzo> what if you took it into those "genius bar" idiots?[09:03:07] <jessicah> nop. dropped off at a service center today[09:03:13] <arfonzo> meh, guess I kinda answered my own question there[09:03:14] <jessicah> we don't have apple stores[09:03:18] <PulkoMandy> [JJ]Albert: yes, the BeOS compat is getting more and more irrelevant. So let's just release R1 so we can get past that[09:03:26] <arfonzo> ah, ok[09:03:35] <arfonzo> well I am sure the service centre can fix that[09:03:43] <PulkoMandy> because if we drop that, we're good for another 10 years of development before we get to a stable release state again[09:03:57] *** stippi has joined #haiku[09:03:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[09:04:16] <[JJ]Albert> PulkoMandy: Yeah, that was my suspicion here, that BeOS support has sorta became less of a factor in the Haiku process.[09:04:35] <PulkoMandy> yes, but I think ABI stability is still relevant[09:04:48] <[JJ]Albert> ABI?[09:04:50] <PulkoMandy> the fact that you can run apps from previous release on current one[09:05:00] <PulkoMandy> it's "application binary interface"[09:05:02] <[JJ]Albert> oh, yeah.[09:05:23] <jessicah> arfonzo: prolly[09:05:25] <[JJ]Albert> This makes sense, and appears to be lacking in most OS out there.[09:05:33] <jessicah> i expect them to just replace some parts to get it booting again...[09:05:36] <[JJ]Albert> To varying degrees.[09:05:41] <PulkoMandy> so, doing an R1 that runs BeOS apps allows us to make changes for R2, as then R2 will only have to be compatible with R1, but not with BeOS R5[09:05:56] <PulkoMandy> well, Windows does it very well[09:06:10] <PulkoMandy> OS X does it with the previous release and not much more, I think[09:06:30] <PulkoMandy> Linux itself is very stable, but the libs that run on it aren't, so it's a bit of a mess there[09:06:50] <[JJ]Albert> PulkoMandy: Well here's my thought, why call the stuff beyond R2?[09:07:13] <[JJ]Albert> Why not refer to updates as R1.X or something to that accord?[09:08:09] <arfonzo> jessicah: any idea of the cost?[09:08:13] <PulkoMandy> what's the difference?[09:08:18] <[JJ]Albert> Wait, no, I get what you're saying now.[09:08:21] <[JJ]Albert> Forgive me.[09:08:56] <briankrent> The OS X Mach-O ABI is stable... OS X's issue is more along the lines of ditching old framework versions.[09:09:18] <PulkoMandy> I think R1.x would be "only fixes bugs in R1" while R2alpha1 would be "here are some new features"[09:09:21] <[JJ]Albert> I thought you were meaning that R2 carries on from R1 in additions only. But what you've said makes more sense than whatever I was thinking.[09:09:40] <PulkoMandy> if we had the manpower, we could handle both, but I don't think this is going to happen[09:10:03] <PulkoMandy> the way I see it, R2 will have a "legacy" ABI/API that's R1 compatible, and a "new" one for new apps[09:10:33] <PulkoMandy> (the legacy one being gcc2 based, and the new one gcc4 or clang based, and possibly 64-bit only, and with all the new features)[09:11:14] <[JJ]Albert> PulkoMandy: I saw that there's a few nightly branches[09:11:30] <jessicah> arfonzo: should be covered under warranty[09:11:30] <[JJ]Albert> gcc2, gcc4, gcc4 hybrid(?), and 64-bit something.[09:11:43] <arfonzo> ah great![09:11:43] <jessicah> but now no haiku hacking on the weekend :([09:12:08] <jessicah> was making progress with uefi[09:12:15] <arfonzo> [JJ]Albert: there's a gcc2 hybrid too, which is now the default[09:12:19] <jessicah> could query partitions[09:12:30] <jessicah> then i was like "why can't it find any haiku partitions"[09:12:36] <arfonzo> jessicah: great, so you can break your laptop again next week then. :D[09:12:37] <jessicah> and then remembered i'd wiped that partition[09:12:53] <jessicah> so i was trying to install haiku to a partition, did all that fine...[09:12:57] <jessicah> rebooted, and dead[09:13:10] <arfonzo> hm.. that's pretty far[09:13:20] <jessicah> finding partitions?[09:13:33] <jessicah> uefi has nice interfaces[09:13:51] <jessicah> LocateHandle of type block_io[09:14:00] <jessicah> returns an array of all partitions[09:14:09] <jessicah> don't even need mbr/gpt code, lol :)[09:15:40] <[JJ]Albert> Oh, so the ones I mentioned are the unsupported builds.[09:15:57] <[JJ]Albert> While arfonzo, you've mentioned the current one.[09:16:10] <[JJ]Albert> so yeh, I'm still catching up. :p[09:16:27] <PulkoMandy> yes, gcc2hybrid is the official one[09:16:29] <arfonzo> [JJ]Albert: well, yeah. gcc2h should work "just as well" with the old binaries, AFAIK[09:16:49] <PulkoMandy> the system is compiled with gcc2, and you can switch to gcc4 to compile new things[09:16:52] <PulkoMandy> (like WebKit)[09:17:16] <PulkoMandy> and yes, it's done that way so we can stll run old deskbar replicants, screen savers, and everything add-on based[09:17:54] <[JJ]Albert> I see.[09:24:58] *** orealis has quit IRC[09:25:32] <[JJ]Albert> PulkoMandy: Well, thanks for explaining the jist of it to me. I apologize for not having read further into it.[09:25:46] <[JJ]Albert> Seeing as I haven't been around the Haiku scene in over a year.[09:29:58] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[09:38:17] *** HAIKU-Buildbot_ has joined #haiku[09:39:42] *** HAIKU-Buildbot has quit IRC[09:52:19] *** i336__ has joined #haiku[09:52:21] *** [JJ]Albert has quit IRC[09:52:42] *** i336_ has quit IRC[09:56:13] *** hey68you has joined #haiku[09:58:25] *** Premislaus has joined #haiku[09:58:43] <Premislaus> hello[09:59:47] <hey68you> OpenSSL: what version on latest nightlies? www.heartbleed.com[10:01:00] <gordonjcp> oh man[10:01:24] <gordonjcp> I'd love to see some shithead skriptkiddie try to work out a bunch of random process space from Haiku[10:07:49] <PulkoMandy> hey68you: 1.0.0j[10:08:12] <PulkoMandy> we're safe[10:08:36] <PulkoMandy> our port of 1.0.1 was broken, and the recipe was already updated to the fixed 1.0.1g version[10:08:36] <hey68you> same as in R1A4 which is what I'm still running[10:09:08] <PulkoMandy> the haiku-os.org servers were affected however, they were fixed yesterday[10:15:48] <jessicah> gordonjcp: heh heh :p[10:16:12] <jessicah> i should probably regenerate my keys[10:20:26] <PulkoMandy> mh... why are half of the videos on youtube not playing...[10:21:11] <arfonzo> aren't half of them not HTML5 yet?[10:21:44] <PulkoMandy> no idea[10:21:52] <PulkoMandy> but could be that[10:26:43] <Not-001> [haikuports] korli pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/[10:26:46] <Not-001> [haikuports] KapiX 1e8792d - cppunit: turn bep into recipe.[10:26:49] <Not-001> [haikuports] KapiX 4086edf - cppunit: add missing lib in provides section[10:26:53] <Not-001> [haikuports] korli 6939157 - Merged in KapiX/haikuports/cppunit (pull request #159) cppunit 1.12.1[10:52:17] <Not-001> [haikuports] korli pushed 3 commits to master [+0/-0/±1] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/[10:52:20] <Not-001> [haikuports] KapiX cd77718 - hunspell: turn bep into recipe[10:52:23] <Not-001> [haikuports] KapiX cdc3d87 - hunspell: remove redundant SOURCE_DIR[10:52:26] <Not-001> [haikuports] korli 437d553 - Merged in KapiX/haikuports/hunspell (pull request #161) hunspell 1.3.2[11:00:05] *** heoyea has quit IRC[11:08:54] *** johndrinkwater has quit IRC[11:09:57] <Premislaus> PulkoMandy: https://www.youtube.com/html5 What features will work in the Web+?[11:10:37] <PulkoMandy> the 3 first[11:10:42] <PulkoMandy> I didn't enable MSE yet[11:10:50] <PulkoMandy> (and I didn't research what it is)[11:11:53] <Premislaus> PulkoMandy: Can you give me a link, for non-working videos?[11:13:00] <Premislaus> Firefox 28 supports: HTMLVideoElement H.264 WebM VP8[11:13:23] <PulkoMandy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug-pAjxKl1I works[11:13:56] <PulkoMandy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHAoi0iiP1g does not work[11:15:49] <Premislaus> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHAoi0iiP1g - works for me, I disabled flash[11:16:19] <jessicah> MSE allows javascript to generate media streams[11:17:43] <jessicah> :o mpeg-dash?[11:19:12] <Premislaus> PulkoMandy: I have additional codecs in my system, K-Lite Pack[11:20:31] *** jessicah has quit IRC[11:22:36] *** jessicah has joined #haiku[11:24:03] <PulkoMandy> I don't think it's a codec problem[11:24:07] *** i336__ has quit IRC[11:24:13] <PulkoMandy> the video player class isn't even called[11:24:31] <PulkoMandy> but I don't feel like debugging youtube js code...[11:24:57] *** Duggan has quit IRC[11:24:57] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[11:25:44] *** Duggan has joined #haiku[11:25:45] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[11:25:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[11:26:02] *** alvin_ has joined #haiku[11:29:18] *** alpha123 has quit IRC[11:29:58] *** alpha123 has joined #haiku[11:40:18] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[11:49:31] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[11:56:26] *** ex-parrot has joined #haiku[11:57:31] *** ex-parrot has joined #haiku[12:07:25] *** zz_NumberNoid is now known as NumberNoid[12:09:43] *** subcritical has joined #haiku[12:16:37] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[12:16:38] *** HaikuUser is now known as will_[12:16:44] *** will_ has joined #haiku[12:21:34] *** leszek has joined #haiku[12:24:38] <will_> Hello! New user here! :) New install here. How do I update/upgrade my system?[12:25:25] *** nighty-_ has joined #haiku[12:31:15] *** stippi has quit IRC[12:36:19] <BitPuffin> will_: do you have a build with the package manager?[12:36:25] <BitPuffin> will_: or are you using alpha[12:37:28] *** johndrinkwater has joined #haiku[12:37:59] <will_> I'm not sure what you mean. I just installed R1alpha4.1.[12:38:14] <will_> I haven't done anything else yet. Just wondering was there a "system update"[12:39:44] <will_> Is there a "better" one I should install?[12:42:12] <PulkoMandy> yes[12:42:20] <PulkoMandy> http://www.ahiku-files.org[12:42:25] <PulkoMandy> http://www.haiku-files.org[12:42:30] <PulkoMandy> we have a package manager now[12:42:37] <will_> oh, thanks[12:42:58] <PulkoMandy> this led to changing the fs layout a bit so upgrading from alpha4 isn't really possible[12:43:54] <will_> I don't mind. I can reinstall easily (just a virtual machine). Just wanted to try this thing out[12:45:00] *** jstressman has quit IRC[12:47:05] <will_> Oh ok... so if I'm running this nightly build, I can run some tool to keep it up to date (everyday)?[12:50:08] <PulkoMandy> https://github.com/haiku/haiku/blob/master/3rdparty/mmu_man/scripts/myupdate.sh[12:50:21] <PulkoMandy> This script should do it, I'm not sure if it's currently working[12:50:40] <seekwill> Awesome, thanks. I'll figure it out. Just wanted to get the general idea[12:52:02] *** jstressman has joined #haiku[12:58:09] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[13:07:08] *** jstressman has quit IRC[13:15:22] *** jstressman has joined #haiku[13:21:24] <arfonzo> hm, I just tried running myupdate.sh[13:21:37] <arfonzo> It seems to be stuck here: Restarting Deskbar...[13:21:37] <arfonzo> Nothing to do[13:21:49] <arfonzo> I'm not sure if it's crunching something right now, doesn't seem to be...[13:24:25] *** will_ has quit IRC[13:30:35] <Premislaus> arfonzo: http://translate.google.pl/translate?sl=pl&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=pl&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fhaiku-os.pl%2Fnode%2F1616&edit-text=[13:31:55] <arfonzo> thanks Premislaus, I'll take look through that during my lunch[13:38:27] *** stippi has joined #haiku[13:38:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[13:39:43] *** orealis has joined #haiku[13:39:59] *** ex-parrot has quit IRC[13:50:08] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[13:52:12] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[13:56:30] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[13:56:43] *** johndrinkwater has quit IRC[13:57:26] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[14:01:11] *** jcay_mobile has joined #haiku[14:01:19] *** johndrinkwater has joined #haiku[14:07:56] *** OmniMancer has quit IRC[14:08:38] *** will_ has joined #haiku[14:09:02] *** will_ is now known as Guest57405[14:12:54] *** jcay_mobile has quit IRC[14:13:34] *** mkf has quit IRC[14:13:51] *** Guest57405 has quit IRC[14:16:38] *** mkf has joined #haiku[14:38:10] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[14:39:16] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[14:41:08] *** qptain_Nemo has quit IRC[14:41:38] *** qptain_Nemo has joined #haiku[14:46:23] *** kkux has quit IRC[14:53:10] *** Guest57405 has joined #haiku[14:55:31] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[14:57:33] *** Guest57405 has quit IRC[14:57:42] *** HaikuUser2 has joined #haiku[15:00:39] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[15:01:12] *** hamishm has joined #haiku[15:08:42] *** HaikuUser2 has quit IRC[15:09:48] *** qptain_Nemo has quit IRC[15:11:46] *** qptain_Nemo has joined #haiku[15:11:51] *** NumberNoid is now known as zz_NumberNoid[15:14:39] *** DKnoto_W has quit IRC[15:21:34] *** valeriusL has quit IRC[15:22:35] *** valeriusL has joined #haiku[15:47:34] *** Yann64 has joined #haiku[15:55:56] *** Begasus has joined #haiku[15:59:01] *** Yann64 has quit IRC[15:59:53] *** happy-dude has joined #haiku[16:04:53] <Begasus> question: I've got a reply on the pr for faad2 telling "This line should be wrapped at 80 columns" how can I set/see this? 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check later :)[23:33:54] * DaaT pokes jessicah with his cane[23:34:03] * jessicah snaps cane in half[23:34:18] * Begasus sends the dogs after the sheep[23:34:29] * DaaT pokes jessicah twice with both halfs[23:34:41] * DaaT sends the sheep after Begasus[23:34:49] <Begasus> is that 4 times then?[23:34:59] <DaaT> sure, why not[23:35:01] <DaaT> the more the merrier[23:35:01] <DaaT> :)[23:35:15] * Begasus isn't bothered, dogs enough here[23:35:26] <Begasus> ;)[23:35:33] <DaaT> :)[23:35:56] *** PasNox has quit IRC[23:36:29] <irker-296> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev47108 [3 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1520fff+%5Ef325986[23:36:30] <irker-296> 15cc2a1: Time prefs: Set pointer NULL, delete in destructor[23:36:30] <irker-296> deda8ca: Time prefs: Set text colors in constructor[23:36:31] <irker-296> 1520fff: Time prefs: Use button label symbols & relayout[23:38:17] <Begasus> still active with ICO DaaT?[23:38:32] <DaaT> you have only to visit it to get your answer :)[23:38:40] <DaaT> translated: yes[23:38:41] <DaaT> :P[23:38:50] <Begasus> thought I'd save me the visite ;)[23:38:58] <Begasus> nice![23:39:17] <DaaT> :)[23:39:18] <DaaT> lazy[23:39:25] <Begasus> don't want to bother with external stuff while haikuporter is at work ;)[23:39:37] <Begasus> :P[23:39:40] <Ptrus> They put the cart before the horse.... http://www.osnews.com/story/27660/Haiku_s_WebPositive_gets_HTML5_video_support[23:40:30] <Begasus> oh they are still active too? :P[23:41:47] <Skipp_OSX> Ptrus, what is the horse in this instance?[23:44:21] <Begasus> oh man ... that's still around ... "undefined reference to `_setjmp"[23:44:25] <Ptrus> html5 video. It is not in there yet.[23:44:52] <Skipp_OSX> Ptrus, so what's the cart?[23:45:04] <Ptrus> almost, the post in OSNews should have waited until it was available.[23:45:35] <Skipp_OSX> oh... well, yeah the news story was premature[23:45:47] <Ptrus> the cart is the story about us having support for html5 video.[23:45:59] <Skipp_OSX> ideally we'd prefer if they'd wait for us to release before it gets announced[23:47:15] <Skipp_OSX> but, we have no control over osnews.com[23:47:57] <Ptrus> The post on haiku-os.org says " WebKit weekly report #26 - Video support!"[23:48:12] <Skipp_OSX> Ptrus, yeah, well, that's a blog post[23:48:22] <Ptrus> as if it was released.[23:48:38] <Skipp_OSX> Ptrus, it works in PulkoMandy's branch[23:48:39] <luroh> well... in this case, i believe it was someone from the project who submitted the news[23:48:46] <luroh> so can't really blame osnews :)[23:49:55] <Ptrus> posted by Thom Holwerda[23:51:16] <Ptrus> based on us putting þhe blog post on the main page at haiku-os.org[23:51:26] <Ptrus> *the[23:51:35] <luroh> nope[23:51:56] <jessicah> someone sent to osnews, and thom modified it a little[23:52:04] <jessicah> introducing typos along the way :p[23:52:12] <luroh> that too :)[23:52:18] <Skipp_OSX> I can blame Thom and I do[23:52:35] <Skipp_OSX> he should have had the editorial restraint not to post the story[23:53:02] <jessicah> oh it says right there[23:53:05] <Skipp_OSX> ... but it's his site, so, I can't complain too much[23:53:10] <jessicah> submitted by kallisti5[23:53:21] <jessicah> heh[23:53:33] <luroh> i think blaming Thom would be kind of far fetched, seeing there was a news item up on haiku-os.org[23:53:34] *** Sikosis has quit IRC[23:53:56] <luroh> anyway, g'nite[23:54:01] *** luroh has quit IRC[23:54:02] <jessicah> it doesn't really matter[23:54:07] <jessicah> heh[23:54:14] *** Sikosis has joined #haiku[23:54:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sikosis[23:54:17] *** mkf has joined #haiku[23:54:33] <Skipp_OSX> Video support in Web+ does show real progress though[23:55:17] <Skipp_OSX> I'm sure for a lot of people YouTube support makes the difference between whether or not they are able to use the OS[23:56:04] <gordonjcp> yup[23:56:41] <Skipp_OSX> it's one of those things that's been on the todo list for a long time but nobody actually did it.[23:56:49] <Skipp_OSX> until now