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[04:31:20] <Not-001> [haikuports] bbjimmy b5672bc - minor clean-up of digiclock recipe
[04:31:24] <Not-001> [haikuports] bbjimmy a152810 - clean-up yab and yab_ide recipes, removed chmod commands.
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[09:06:59] <lewellyn> PulkoMandy: too bad there wasn't video in the post ;)
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[11:30:53] <jessicah_> :o
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[11:31:05] <jessicah> i got a mention! haha
[11:32:16] <jessicah> PulkoMandy: thanks :)
[11:32:22] <jessicah> now i'm a lil bit famous? ;)
[11:35:48] <stippi> jessicah: Well deserved!
[11:41:01] <jessicah> heh, thanks stippi :)
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[11:52:15] <arfonzo> PulkoMandy: yeah, i saw that... what exactly is he reporting?
[11:52:47] <arfonzo> maybe i missed it, i'm at an all day workshop today so i just took a quick look at his post... but i didn't understand what his point was...
[11:57:34] <Diver> he's complaining that russian translation is missing
[11:58:24] <arfonzo> was it ever there?
[11:58:37] <Diver> it was in 1.5
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[11:59:48] <arfonzo> hm, i didn't release a 1.5 hpkg anyways, i think there was a language setting in the qupzilla config, but i've not really tried other languages there.
[11:59:59] <Diver> afaiks only about window is translated now
[12:00:31] <Diver> I thought the previous version available though HaikuDepot was 1.5
[12:00:44] <Diver> maybe i'm wrong here
[12:01:19] <arfonzo> it might have been according to the about qupzilla dialog box (but i might have kept it tagged as 1.4.x)
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[12:04:09] <arfonzo> i will take a look at the languages, however the recipe hasn't changed much in terms of how it builds and installs. I wonder if QZ changed something about what's built by default in more recent git commits (1.7 is built from the repo sources)
[12:07:05] <arfonzo> you could always just try to copy the russian translation into the install location, to see if it gets picked up, too. you'd have to move it into non-packaged, i suppose.
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[12:21:02] <jessicah> PulkoMandy: i built a copy of new webkit
[12:21:21] <jessicah> but it's consistently crashing
[12:25:40] <stargate1> jessicah: do you think one man can work as we hunderts ?
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[12:25:51] <jessicah> hmm?
[12:26:19] <stargate1> thats the wrong way, web+ well never finish not in 10 years
[12:26:40] <jessicah> sure it will
[12:26:46] <jessicah> it's reusing an existing library
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[12:27:03] <stargate1> yes i see!
[12:27:27] <stargate1> bbl
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[12:29:49] <PulkoMandy> jessicah: looks like your Haiku install is too old
[12:30:00] <PulkoMandy> I made some changes to the media kit last week
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[12:30:07] <jessicah> yes i know
[12:30:08] <PulkoMandy> or maybe I introduced a bug there...
[12:30:17] <jessicah> i have latest repo
[12:30:33] <PulkoMandy> mh... ok then I added a bug
[12:30:48] <jessicah> it's like it's not creating the lock
[12:30:57] <jessicah> despite being in the constructor
[12:31:41] <PulkoMandy> use of FormatManager after delete maybe?
[12:32:37] <jessicah> maybe?
[12:34:15] <PulkoMandy> mh... or GetInstance returning a corrupted object instead of the instance
[12:34:40] <PulkoMandy> yes, that's it
[12:34:50] <PulkoMandy> doubleton pattern :/
[12:35:56] <jessicah> ah yeah, you should've used sInstance, not create a static variable :p
[12:36:14] <PulkoMandy> yes
[12:36:20] <jessicah> ;)
[12:36:26] <PulkoMandy> forgot to fix that after adding the pthread_once
[12:36:31] * jessicah builds
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[12:39:54] <arfonzo> is pthreads support now complete?
[12:40:04] <PulkoMandy> mostly
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[12:40:17] <arfonzo> enough to build tmux or screen? :)
[12:40:28] <arfonzo> maybe i'll try this weekend again
[12:40:35] <PulkoMandy> we still don't have setshedattr or some stuff like that, but usually commenting these in the app works
[12:40:43] <PulkoMandy> (they just set hints for the scheduler)
[12:41:12] <arfonzo> i don't think it was partof pthreads that tmux was bitching about, but i'll give it another whirl then.
[12:41:31] <arfonzo> it was that part of pthreads, rather (scheduler hints)
[12:41:53] <PulkoMandy> yes, I don't see what it would be doing with that
[12:42:15] <PulkoMandy> but the same is true of any program I saw using this function - they were all trying to workaround linux bugs with it
[12:42:44] <jessicah> :D
[12:42:58] <PulkoMandy> too late, already pushing it
[12:43:06] <irker-974> 8bbdad1: FormatManager: actually return the singleton instance.
[12:43:11] <jessicah> awwwwwwwwwwwwww
[12:43:34] <PulkoMandy> you should get commit access, would make these things simpler :)
[12:43:52] <jessicah> you should propose that :)
[12:44:13] <PulkoMandy> yes
[12:44:37] <PulkoMandy> do you have a list of patches you did ? I guess I can query trac for this somehow?
[12:45:57] <PulkoMandy> mh... don't know where to look for that in Trac :/
[12:46:07] <jessicah> you can query on github
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[12:50:35] <jessicah> it still crashes, lol
[12:50:47] <jessicah> now in BLocker::AcquireLock
[12:51:40] <jessicah> err, hmm, just a sec
[12:51:48] <jessicah> mebbe my image isn't up to date
[12:51:54] <jessicah> jam doesn't always rebuild nicely
[12:54:05] <PulkoMandy> you can get just the new libmedia.so and put it in lib/x86 with the webkit libs
[12:54:16] <PulkoMandy> this is how I test it, goes faster than rebooting the whole system
[12:54:56] <jessicah> hmm, i'll try that
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[13:14:43] <jessicah> page fault =/
[13:17:56] <PulkoMandy> where?
[13:20:24] <jessicah> BAbstractSocket::_WaitFor
[13:20:47] <jessicah> unhandled page fault in kernel space at 0xdeadbef7, ip 0x8008d2d2
[13:21:54] <jessicah> from BSecureSocket::WaitForReadable
[13:22:12] <jessicah> BHttpRequest::_MakeRequest
[13:25:49] <PulkoMandy> mh, yes, I get this from time to time
[13:25:56] <PulkoMandy> never was able to reliably reproduce it
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[14:08:02] <stippi> PulkoMandy: What I don't understand is why there is no race condition. The check for NULL has nothing to do with pthread_once and the initialization. Or does it?
[14:09:30] <PulkoMandy> I think the NULL check is useless, actually
[14:10:01] <PulkoMandy> pthread_once makes sure the initialization is done only once
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[14:39:57] <jessicah> i'm going to look a bit closer tomolo
[14:40:02] <jessicah> bedtime for me now
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[15:10:03] <Goggen> Hi. I have read "WebKit weekly report #25". What happens if I use the latest nightly build, and load www.youtube.com?
[15:10:20] <Goggen> Would it try to play anything?
[15:11:20] <PulkoMandy> There is no published version with the video code yet
[15:11:34] <PulkoMandy> you'd have to compile webkit yourself to try it
[15:12:08] <Goggen> When will there be a nightly version that does something on youtube.com?
[15:12:31] <PulkoMandy> maybe next week, there are some crashing bugs I want to fix first
[15:13:19] <Goggen> What features do yo expect to have next week? Sound? Video? Both?
[15:13:39] <PulkoMandy> yes, sound and video works on youtube
[15:13:49] <PulkoMandy> but not on some other websites, yet
[15:14:02] <gordonjcp> PulkoMandy: sweet, when did you get that working?
[15:14:18] <PulkoMandy> yesterday
[15:14:55] <Goggen> Does it play smooth with no lag and waisted time?
[15:15:57] <Goggen> Can it select quality, subtitles, annotations and stuff, like in other browsers?
[15:16:55] <PulkoMandy> there is some frameskip right now, the other things I didn't test
[15:17:06] <PulkoMandy> if you have example pages where I can try that I can have a look
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[15:20:06] <Goggen> test. Think connection was broken...
[15:22:30] <PulkoMandy> yes
[15:22:39] <PulkoMandy> [15:17] <PulkoMandy> there is some frameskip right now, the other things I didn't test
[15:22:39] <PulkoMandy> [15:17] <PulkoMandy> if you have example pages where I can try that I can have a look
[15:25:53] <Goggen> Really looking forward to testing this.
[15:26:38] <Goggen> Thank you and goodbye :-)
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[16:29:38] <PulkoMandy> mh... anyone uses right click > search with google in Web+ ?
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[16:48:33] <luroh> PulkoMandy: highlight -> right-click -> 'search web' doesn't seem to work here
[16:48:47] <luroh> nothing happens
[16:48:49] <PulkoMandy> yes, that's why I'm asking if someone wants it fixed :)
[16:49:01] <luroh> ah :)
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[16:49:29] <luroh> well, fwiw, it's a feature i use the hell out of in firefox
[16:50:00] <luroh> (albeit with duckduckgo as the search provider)
[16:52:54] <PulkoMandy> yes, it should also make use of the configured search engine, but since that's a function from WebKit, it means the apps must tell WebKit what the search engine is
[16:56:04] <luroh> +1 for getting it working in any case. it's a feature i would use if i was using haiku
[16:56:34] <luroh> (since i'm usually just testing gcc2, no web+ for me)
[16:57:36] <PulkoMandy> ok I'll have a look then
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[19:42:56] <Premislaus> hello
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[21:45:44] <luroh> puckipedia: mind ditching that away thingy?
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[21:48:16] <puckipedia> Okay, set it to 20 minutes
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[21:49:18] <luroh> thanks
[21:56:21] <jessicah> PulkoMandy: weird
[21:56:35] <jessicah> i fixed my crashes by removing the pthread once stuff entirely
[21:56:52] <PulkoMandy> mh, that doesn't sound like the proper fix...
[21:57:00] <jessicah> i know it's not
[21:57:20] <jessicah> but seems like the pthread once code isn't doing what it shouhld
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[22:04:21] <PulkoMandy> do you have a debug report?
[22:06:47] <jessicah> unchanged from the last one
[22:06:52] <jessicah> anyways, i think i have a fix
[22:06:55] <jessicah> just building now
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[22:15:06] <Luko> hi folks, my computer still run on windows xp,,,(mini itx celeron 847), will i have some problem in near future with xp ? (in 2 years)
[22:15:59] <PulkoMandy> it's not going to get any security updates from microsoft, and it's possible that new apps will not run on it anymore
[22:16:20] <PulkoMandy> I don't know if Microsoft will also shut down the online activation service, preventing you from reinstalling
[22:16:34] <PulkoMandy> other than that, it should continue running as it does
[22:16:48] <Luko> oh, i use special apps like sumatrapdf for pdfs, i dont need adobe acrobat, for office libreoffice, not msoffice, and i dont need SkyDrive by MS
[22:17:05] <Luko> and thats is for all apps like this example
[22:17:10] <Luko> what i use
[22:18:03] <Luko> i want know only that there will be security problems like viruses
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[22:18:15] <PulkoMandy> well, even new version of those may drop support for XP, but the old versions will continue running
[22:18:16] <jessicah> PulkoMandy: i added pthread code back with little change, works now
[22:18:30] <PulkoMandy> jessicah: ok, patch welcome :)
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[22:19:08] <luroh> Luko: likely a whole lot of them tailored for out-of-support XP, yes
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[22:19:35] <luroh> maybe microsoft security essentials can keep you afloat for a while but i wouldn't bet on it
[22:20:09] <Luko> and will be posible reactivate windows after april 2014 via internet <
[22:20:10] <Luko> ?
[22:20:20] <Luko> on this some board
[22:21:20] <luroh> not sure, microsoft probably has information about this
[22:22:59] <jessicah> not sure if you want to keep the if check though
[22:23:14] <jessicah> personally, i think just relying on pthread_once to do the job seems best
[22:23:25] <Luko> why HaikuDepot display 0KiB size on hrev47085 ?
[22:23:47] <jessicah> not implemented afaik
[22:24:46] <PulkoMandy> jessicah: yes, the check is useless
[22:26:06] <irker-974> 6242374: Media Kit: fix use of pthread_once_init in FormatManager.cpp
[22:26:26] <PulkoMandy> well, it could be useful as an optimization in case pthread_once doesn't already do that
[22:26:38] <PulkoMandy> if the pointer is not null, there's no need for locking anythin
[22:26:49] <PulkoMandy> but I think pthread_once should take care of that
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[22:27:47] <jessicah> yeah; better to do optimization in pthread_once if it needs it
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[22:31:28] <jessicah> nice, google play music works too
[22:31:44] <PulkoMandy> :)
[22:31:51] <jessicah> soooo cool
[22:31:58] <PulkoMandy> did you get today changes to haikuwebkit?
[22:32:04] <jessicah> no
[22:32:19] <PulkoMandy> there were 400 crashes in the testsuite, I have fixed that
[22:32:25] <jessicah> nice :)
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[22:32:26] <PulkoMandy> may help with stability on some websites
[22:32:37] <PulkoMandy> (well, it was one single bug triggered 400 times)
[22:32:46] <jessicah> hahaha, what was the bug?
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[22:33:22] <PulkoMandy> some initialization done in the wrong order on WebKit side, it seems
[22:33:37] <PulkoMandy> they're still working on the proper fix there
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[22:43:10] <AlienSoldier> PulkoMandy any plan to do a save as for audio and video?
[22:43:29] <PulkoMandy> the hardest part would be to add the popup menu
[22:44:48] <AlienSoldier> for me streaming is of almost no use. I like to revisit the video i get
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[22:45:36] <AlienSoldier> i can already do that but i don't like having to relay to external website to do so
[22:45:44] <AlienSoldier> *rely
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[22:46:17] <PulkoMandy> well there's already youtube-dl for that (and ubertuber)
[22:47:44] <jua_> ubertuber is excellent
[22:49:02] <AlienSoldier> i guess it would do the job
[22:49:51] <AlienSoldier> i wish i would not need python that said
[22:51:02] <Premislaus> PulkoMandy: What is your CPU usage on youtube?
[22:51:16] <PulkoMandy> reasonably low
[22:51:57] <Premislaus> 1080p?
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[22:52:15] <PulkoMandy> I didn't try that, my screen is too small, and my internet not fast enough
[22:52:46] <PulkoMandy> it will need more CPU than MediaPlayer currently
[22:53:14] <PulkoMandy> I'll see if I can improve that (there are one of two extra copy of the frames before they get to the screen)
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[22:54:26] <AlienSoldier> it will probably be slow in full screen, like media player when overlay is not working
[22:55:18] <PulkoMandy> yes
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[22:56:44] <jessicah> at least it works though :)
[22:56:53] <AlienSoldier> BeOS always lacked a good use of pointers
[22:56:59] <jessicah> will make a lot of people happy :)
[22:57:33] <AlienSoldier> indeed, no way joe the plumber would accept to use a browser without audio video
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[23:02:27] <PulkoMandy> well, time to sleep here
[23:02:36] <PulkoMandy> 'night :)
[23:02:41] <Skipp_OSX> I think BeOS had plenty of pointers... it was C++
[23:02:43] <jua_> night puckipedia
[23:02:45] <Skipp_OSX> night
[23:02:46] <jua_> eh
[23:02:50] <jua_> PulkoMandy I mean
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[23:43:42] <scanty> i just setup haiku for virtual box, and it says "haiku loader not found" when i try and boot it
[23:43:45] <scanty> any ideas?
[23:46:13] <luroh> scanty: what do you mean by "setup haiku for virtualbox"?
[23:46:33] <scanty> i created a new virtual machine
[23:46:35] <xybre> I just use the virtual image provided on the download page.
[23:47:59] <luroh> scanty: right, and you fed it what image?
[23:48:29] <scanty> haiku-nightly.vmdk
[23:48:37] <scanty> the 600MB one
[23:49:40] <luroh> SATA controller?
[23:50:29] <scanty> no, IDE
[23:50:34] <scanty> should it be SATA?
[23:50:46] <luroh> that's what i use, at least
[23:50:52] <scanty> ok i'll try that
[23:52:55] <scanty> oh there it goes
[23:53:10] <scanty> thanks!
[23:53:16] <luroh> nice :)
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[23:54:57] <scanty> 'net doesn't seem to work
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[23:55:37] <luroh> use the intel pro/1000 mt desktop adapter
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[23:59:08] <scanty> ah there it goes
[23:59:09] <scanty> thanks again!
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