February 27, 2014 
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February 27, 2014 [00:00:13] *** karanp has quit IRC[00:00:25] *** Wabouz_ has quit IRC[00:01:02] *** ddavid123 has quit IRC[00:03:30] *** axeld has quit IRC[00:05:47] *** axeld has joined #haiku[00:05:47] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[00:14:59] *** stippi has joined #haiku[00:14:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[00:15:05] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1676 of x86_64-any-host is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86_64-any-host/builds/1676[00:21:57] *** kcj has joined #haiku[00:28:43] *** stippi has quit IRC[00:28:44] *** HubertX4 has quit IRC[00:41:58] *** bbjimmy-atwork- has joined #haiku[00:50:31] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1677 of x86_64-any-host is complete: Failure [failed [x86_64] [x86_64] @release-anyboot [x86_64] build repository haiku [x86_64] upload_haiku_repository] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86_64-any-host/builds/1677 blamelist: Stephan A?mus <superstippi at gmx dot de>, Alexander von Gluck IV <kallisti5 at unixzen dot com>, Julian Harnath[00:50:31] <HAIKU-Buildbot> <julian.harnath at rwth-aachen dot de>, John Scipione <jscipione at gmail dot com>[00:57:03] *** mareklug is now known as Sir_Designer[01:00:12] *** stargater has quit IRC[01:05:34] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2538 of x86-debug-any-host is complete: Failure [failed [x86]-debug] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86-debug-any-host/builds/2538 blamelist: Stephan A?mus <superstippi at gmx dot de>, Alexander von Gluck IV <kallisti5 at unixzen dot com>, Julian Harnath <julian.harnath at rwth-aachen dot de>, John Scipione <jscipione at gmail dot com>[01:08:07] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2271 of x86-Linux64-host is complete: Failure [failed [x86]] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86-Linux64-host/builds/2271 blamelist: Stephan A?mus <superstippi at gmx dot de>, Alexander von Gluck IV <kallisti5 at unixzen dot com>, Julian Harnath <julian.harnath at rwth-aachen dot de>, John Scipione <jscipione at gmail dot com>[01:12:46] *** jua_ has quit IRC[01:16:07] *** Vidiot_X has joined #haiku[01:21:46] *** hamishm__ has joined #haiku[01:22:10] *** hamishm has quit IRC[01:24:48] *** Negr0 has quit IRC[01:31:08] *** axeld has quit IRC[01:37:45] *** mattlacey has joined #haiku[01:48:01] *** oco2 has quit IRC[01:55:14] *** OmniMancer has joined #haiku[02:06:55] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #1678 of x86_64-any-host is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86_64-any-host/builds/1678[02:09:10] *** secris has quit IRC[02:21:47] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2393 of x86-FreeBSD-host is complete: Failure [failed [x86] @release-anyboot [x86] @release-vmware [x86] @release-cd [x86] @nightly-raw [x86gcc4hybrid] @release-anyboot [x86gcc4hybrid] @release-vmware [x86gcc4hybrid] @release-cd [x86gcc4hybrid] @nightly-raw [x86gcc4hybrid] build repository haiku [x86gcc4hybrid] upload_haiku_repository] Build details are at[02:21:47] <HAIKU-Buildbot> http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86-FreeBSD-host/builds/2393 blamelist: Stephan A?mus <superstippi at gmx dot de>, Alexander von Gluck IV <kallisti5 at unixzen dot com>, Julian Harnath <julian.harnath at rwth-aachen dot de>, John Scipione <jscipione at gmail dot com>[02:23:17] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2272 of x86-Linux64-host is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86-Linux64-host/builds/2272[02:23:29] *** valeriusL has quit IRC[02:32:38] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2539 of x86-debug-any-host is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86-debug-any-host/builds/2539[02:35:10] *** valeriusL has joined #haiku[02:36:01] *** Skipp_OSXII has quit IRC[02:36:50] *** mmu_man has quit IRC[02:54:28] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[03:00:49] *** DaQatz_ has quit IRC[03:01:27] *** DaQatz has joined #haiku[03:14:59] *** jessicah has joined #haiku[03:17:17] <jessicah> hmm, fwiw, there doesn't seem to be a point in providing both .xz and .zip files on haiku-files for nightlies anymore. difference is neglible due to packagefs[03:46:29] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #2394 of x86-FreeBSD-host is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86-FreeBSD-host/builds/2394[03:48:52] *** Vidiot_X has quit IRC[03:52:33] *** Vidiot_X has joined #haiku[03:59:58] *** AllThoseUnices has joined #haiku[04:02:18] *** bbjimmy-atwork- has quit IRC[04:03:13] *** kcj has quit IRC[04:06:58] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #813 of x86-Linux-host is complete: Failure [failed [x86]] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86-Linux-host/builds/813 blamelist: Stephan A?mus <superstippi at gmx dot de>, Alexander von Gluck IV <kallisti5 at unixzen dot com>, Julian Harnath <julian.harnath at rwth-aachen dot de>, John Scipione <jscipione at gmail dot com>[04:12:57] <AllThoseUnices> Windows is able to get some Unix functionality via Cygwin. Is there any plan for programs like that coming to Haiku?[04:13:43] *** SonicX has joined #haiku[04:18:45] <jessicah> haiku is already fairly posix compliant[04:19:53] <jessicah> posix compliant C/C++ apps should compile out of the box generally[04:35:42] <AllThoseUnices> Oh[04:36:07] <AllThoseUnices> I feel dumb. I just got GNU nano to run right before I came back to read this.[04:38:06] <AllThoseUnices> I thought there was no plan to integrate any of that. I'm impressed.[04:40:44] *** LjL is now known as wobblywu[04:41:15] *** wobblywu is now known as LjL[04:42:28] <umccullough> cygwin is a joke ;)[04:45:46] <AllThoseUnices> Well.. It works[04:45:52] <AllThoseUnices> I hate how it works, but it does[04:46:15] <AllThoseUnices> Having to start the original .exe to install new packages each time gets ridiculous[04:49:16] <jessicah> beos has always had some form of posix support. haiku's just made it better :)[04:50:15] <AllThoseUnices> Is there any working IRC chat in Haiku? Every one I try bugs out on me.[04:50:50] <umccullough> Vision[04:50:55] <umccullough> it's included by default[04:51:37] <umccullough> as for cygwin, i've used it... it's terrible[04:51:51] <umccullough> these days i just keep a few linux boxes around and use PuTTy when i need to get something done[04:52:26] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[04:52:34] <umccullough> there you go[04:52:44] *** HaikuUser is now known as OnHaikuOS[04:53:42] <OnHaikuOS> :p[04:55:25] <umccullough> jessicah, ltns[04:55:52] <umccullough> what's the filesize difference between .zip and .xz these days?[04:56:35] <jessicah> < 1MB[04:56:38] <umccullough> heh[04:56:50] <umccullough> that does seem pointless then[04:57:09] <jessicah> since hpkg is compressed, compressing compressed files has little gain ;)[04:57:24] <umccullough> what compression do they use?[04:57:30] <umccullough> must be something decent[04:57:40] <jessicah> don't know[04:57:54] <jessicah> hmm, how to get haiku onto my airbook...[04:58:19] <umccullough> xar[04:58:19] <geist> xz is super good[04:58:33] <umccullough> or rather, xar-inspired[04:58:35] <geist> and fast to decompress[04:58:38] <umccullough> https://dev.haiku-os.org/wiki/PackageManagement/FileFormat[04:59:23] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[05:00:00] <umccullough> oh, it's lz77[05:00:06] <umccullough> iirc, that's the same as xz?[05:00:29] <umccullough> nope, xz is lzma2[05:00:33] <jessicah> what's "ltns"?[05:00:44] *** luroh has quit IRC[05:01:09] *** karanp has joined #haiku[05:01:15] <umccullough> long time no see[05:01:24] <jessicah> oh :)[05:01:26] <jessicah> yeah...[05:02:59] <jessicah> can I dd a raw image onto a gpt partition to boot from that?[05:03:08] *** Vidiot_X has quit IRC[05:03:09] <umccullough> not really[05:03:20] <jessicah> i have bootloader on usb stick[05:03:31] <jessicah> and i've set the partition type id properly using windows[05:03:54] <umccullough> there's a hardcoded offset in the first couple blocks of the partition that tells it where it's at on the disk[05:04:03] <umccullough> you'll either have to run makebootable on it, or hand-edit it[05:04:09] *** Vidiot_X has joined #haiku[05:04:15] <umccullough> i've done the latter, it sucks[05:04:25] <jessicah> that seems kinda silly. shouldn't the partition table do that for you?[05:04:31] <umccullough> it's a beos thing[05:04:52] <umccullough> it allows the kernel to know where to look on the disk when it is started, i guess[05:04:57] *** _marc` has quit IRC[05:05:17] <umccullough> might be something from the old BeOS/PPC days[05:05:58] <jessicah> seems counterintuitive when all that information can be figured out from the partition table =/[05:06:03] <OnHaikuOS> Will Haiku ever enter beta? :p[05:06:14] <jessicah> yes[05:06:19] <umccullough> well, it's likely to be feature complete someday, so yes[05:06:29] <jessicah> iirc, alpha5 will be the last alpha[05:06:37] <umccullough> if it happens...[05:06:44] <jessicah> i can't remember if they decided to call it alpha on the ML[05:06:48] <umccullough> there's a lot of people that just want alpha5 to be skipped[05:07:02] <umccullough> which means it will be longer before the next release, if it's beta[05:07:09] <OnHaikuOS> I wish it weren't so dang buggy with most of the programs I try to get on the site[05:07:13] <umccullough> i think that people don't get that part[05:07:21] <umccullough> which site?[05:07:22] <umccullough> haikuware?[05:08:04] <OnHaikuOS> yes[05:08:16] <umccullough> yeah, you realize that's an unofficial software dumping ground[05:08:28] <jessicah> umccullough: makebootable can be run on posix systems? like os x?[05:08:35] <umccullough> hmm[05:08:41] <umccullough> why not just build haiku?[05:08:51] <umccullough> makebootable itself is a haiku app[05:08:53] <OnHaikuOS> Where's the official dumping ground?[05:08:57] <umccullough> there isn't one yet[05:09:04] <jessicah> how would that help? :)[05:09:05] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[05:09:15] <umccullough> haikudepot has some software that the haiku devs have packaged for it[05:09:34] <umccullough> OnHaikuOS, you get what you expect from software built on an alpha OS[05:09:49] <AlienSoldier> hi umccullough, tested the RTL8169 lately?[05:09:54] <umccullough> nope[05:10:20] <umccullough> jessicah, the haiku build system is capable of formatting a partition and making it bootable[05:10:24] <umccullough> and also installing haiku directly to it[05:10:28] <AlienSoldier> it end up freezing my system when i seem to get big files.[05:10:43] <umccullough> not sure if that holds true on GPT, however[05:11:04] <AlienSoldier> i degraded the computer to a 139 and it work well.[05:11:39] <umccullough> jessicah, there's also a "makebootabletiny.c" that you can use to fix that offset i mentioned[05:11:43] <umccullough> but it requires linux[05:11:53] <jessicah> so no os x?[05:12:11] <umccullough> it uses linux-specific headers to get the offset from the partition[05:12:23] <umccullough> you're welcome to write a version of it for osx[05:12:49] <umccullough> https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/booting/makebootable[05:12:57] <OnHaikuOS> Or if it has source, you can compile it on OS X[05:13:09] <OnHaikuOS> OS X has access to clang and gcc[05:13:11] <umccullough> it requires linux headers[05:13:15] <umccullough> as i said above[05:13:19] <OnHaikuOS> oh ok[05:13:36] <jessicah> oh i see[05:14:08] <jessicah> that seems entirely hackable[05:14:37] <jessicah> just need to make sure i put the bytes in the right order...[05:14:41] <umccullough> :)[05:14:49] <umccullough> if you end up writing something that works, let me know and we'll link it there[05:15:07] <OnHaikuOS> Yes. I use OS X. It would be interesting to see it.[05:15:14] <jessicah> i was just going to use a hex editor[05:16:55] <umccullough> heh[05:17:01] <umccullough> yeah, i've done it[05:17:44] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[05:19:40] <umccullough> i learned about this the hard way once when i copied a beos r5 partition to another partition and tried to boot from it - finding that it was actually booting from the first partition instead[05:19:56] <umccullough> stupid offset :P[05:21:08] <jessicah> hehe[05:24:40] *** MatthewH12 has quit IRC[05:28:20] *** bhundven has joined #haiku[05:28:57] *** cb88 has quit IRC[05:31:29] *** Xenmen has quit IRC[05:35:38] *** OnHaikuOS has quit IRC[05:35:41] *** AllThoseUnices has quit IRC[06:02:33] *** Be has joined #haiku[06:02:39] *** Be is now known as OnHaikuOS[06:05:14] <kallisti5> lol[06:05:18] <kallisti5> http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon[06:05:43] <kallisti5> 38,600 people trying to play a single game of pokemon[06:06:51] <jessicah> lol[06:06:58] <kallisti5> jessicah: !!![06:07:08] <jessicah> finally dd'ing patched raw image to partition...[06:07:09] <kallisti5> I thought PM drove you to the hills?[06:07:10] <jessicah> kallisti5: :)[06:07:12] <jessicah> miss me?[06:07:17] <jessicah> it did[06:07:25] <jessicah> thought i'd give it a spin[06:07:34] <jessicah> i see can at least blacklist files now...[06:07:39] <kallisti5> ah. welcome back![06:07:40] <kallisti5> lol[06:07:57] <jessicah> trying to get it booting on my airbook[06:08:13] <kallisti5> ooh. tip: don't boot from a usb stick in a usb 3.0 port[06:08:24] <jessicah> can't use usb due to xhci :P[06:08:24] <kallisti5> even if it is a usb 2.0 stick... it won't work[06:08:29] <kallisti5> right[06:08:29] <jessicah> yeah, they're all usb 3.0 on an airbook[06:08:33] <jessicah> well, on mine[06:08:57] <jessicah> damn new technology! :p[06:09:07] <umccullough> yep[06:09:23] * umccullough pets his hand-me-down hardware[06:09:52] <umccullough> i'm actually quite disappointed in the direction PCs and laptops are headed[06:10:17] <jessicah> what do you mean?[06:10:37] <umccullough> locked down so they can only boot the OS the mfgr puts on them, etc.[06:11:03] <umccullough> actually, i think the trend started with phones and tablets[06:11:11] <umccullough> drives me nuts[06:11:14] <jessicah> it's great for enterprise[06:12:27] <jessicah> i wonder how long it'll be before you start seeing intel atom based phones :)[06:13:03] <umccullough> thought saw an article the other day about a firefox os phone running x86[06:14:05] *** juser__ has quit IRC[06:14:24] <umccullough> heh, and this: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2086380/intel-finishes-work-on-64bit-android-44-for-x86-smartphones.html[06:15:08] <jessicah> neat[06:15:15] <jessicah> i wonder what the diff in perf is like[06:15:33] *** Xenmen has joined #haiku[06:15:55] <umccullough> https://www.google.com/#q=intel+x86+phone&tbm=nws[06:16:00] <umccullough> quite a bit of news about that actually[06:17:15] *** devport has joined #haiku[06:17:21] *** devport has quit IRC[06:20:14] <jessicah> blargle, now i need to download anyboot again...[06:22:14] <umccullough> oh, you're not planning to dd anyboot to a partition are you?[06:22:20] <umccullough> it's not designed to do that[06:23:12] <jessicah> no, i dd'd a patched raw image to a partition[06:23:16] <umccullough> ok[06:23:21] <jessicah> but now i need to dd anyboot to the usb disk[06:23:28] <umccullough> heh[06:23:35] <umccullough> fun times[06:23:49] <jessicah> which is another 20 minutes away...[06:24:43] <jessicah> just hope i patched the raw image properly[06:24:43] <jessicah> lol[06:25:49] <umccullough> you could always use the makebootabletiny.c code to calculate the proper value and location to patch[06:25:58] <umccullough> i'm sure the math part is generic[06:27:34] <jessicah> it doesn't see my on disk partition i think :([06:27:41] <jessicah> maybe i'll patch the partition name[06:28:19] <jessicah> it's there in the debug output though[06:28:43] <umccullough> i'm unsure what the status of GPT booting is[06:29:01] <jessicah> oh[06:29:27] <umccullough> some people claim it works...[06:34:04] <OnHaikuOS> I've never used Haiku outside of a virtual machine[06:34:19] <OnHaikuOS> is its hardware support pretty decent?[06:36:03] <AlienSoldier> if you have a bunch of old PC around you should be able to frankenmount something[06:37:42] <jessicah> hmm, well i don't know[06:38:01] <jessicah> it doesn't seem to see gpt partitions in the bootloader[06:38:32] <jessicah> well, in the boot menu[06:47:55] <jessicah> hmm, mebbe i just need a hybrid mbr[06:48:33] <jessicah> heh. cat on lap, laptop on cat[06:56:01] *** karanp has quit IRC[07:13:33] <jessicah> oops[07:16:19] <jessicah> hopefully internet recovery doesn't blow away all my data...[07:16:44] * jessicah gives up, defeated[07:18:28] *** Vidiot_X has quit IRC[07:21:03] *** jessicah has quit IRC[07:21:07] *** Vidiot_X has joined #haiku[07:23:32] *** pcomputo_ has joined #haiku[07:30:20] *** jessicah has joined #haiku[07:33:55] *** pcomputo_ has quit IRC[07:37:43] <jessicah> wow, hideous redraw in web+[07:37:57] *** kkux has quit IRC[07:38:28] *** kkux has joined #haiku[07:39:24] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[07:39:34] <jessicah> hey pulko :)[07:45:39] <jessicah> PulkoMandy: I see web+ is coming along[07:45:51] <PulkoMandy> hey :)[07:45:51] <jessicah> facebook and gmail seem usable[07:46:09] <PulkoMandy> :)[07:46:22] <jessicah> dunno if it's because i'm using vesa driver or not, but it has some serious redraw issues when scrolling, haha[07:46:26] <jessicah> but otherwise not bad[07:46:27] <PulkoMandy> the version I have here broke gmail in some other way :([07:46:32] <jessicah> oh?[07:46:39] <jessicah> you can't login anymore?[07:46:53] <PulkoMandy> no, that works, but parts of the page don't draw properly[07:47:06] <PulkoMandy> (all the top area with search bar, buttons, and everything)[07:47:27] <PulkoMandy> it's probably a bug in the new clipping code[07:47:42] <PulkoMandy> this is the only serious issue that prevents me to do a new release of it[07:48:08] <jessicah> oh, that's all there[07:48:09] <PulkoMandy> which is bad, because on the other hand I have many bugfixes, speed improvements, and a few new features[07:48:34] <jessicah> ohh :([07:48:50] <jessicah> is the clipping code in haiku webkit?[07:49:28] <PulkoMandy> that and app_server[07:49:42] <jessicah> hmm[07:49:52] <jessicah> so a new web+ would need a new app_server?[07:50:16] <PulkoMandy> I don't know, depends on which side the bug is[07:50:46] <jessicah> would you like another set of eyes to peruse some code? :)[07:52:44] <jessicah> i'll brb, going back to windows :P[07:52:48] *** jessicah has quit IRC[07:57:57] *** jessicah has joined #haiku[07:58:19] <jessicah> back again[07:59:12] *** karanp has joined #haiku[08:04:58] *** mattlacey has quit IRC[08:05:25] <jessicah> PulkoMandy: I thought app_server already had clipping code[08:06:17] <PulkoMandy> jessicah: yes, it had a working clipping to rectangles, and a broken implementation of ClipToPicture, which is fixed now[08:06:42] <PulkoMandy> (stippi did most of that, and he also fixed some more issues, so now we have a much better running GoBe productive)[08:07:22] <PulkoMandy> and, WebKit didn't make use of ClipToPicture yet, so I added that, but they use the clipping for a lot of things, and it's not very easy to get all cases right[08:08:25] <PulkoMandy> https://github.com/haiku/webkit/blob/rebased/Source/WebCore/platform/graphics/haiku/GraphicsContextHaiku.cpp[08:08:42] <PulkoMandy> most of the fun is here - and yes, I'd greatly appreciate other people to have a look at the code ! :)[08:09:04] *** _marc` has quit IRC[08:16:05] *** OnHaikuOS has quit IRC[08:16:22] <jessicah> why do you add 1 to width/height in popLayer?[08:16:28] <jessicah> is it a rounding issue?[08:17:28] <PulkoMandy> no, it's the strange way BeOS manage rectangles[08:17:48] <PulkoMandy> coordinates are centered on pixels instead of on the corner of them[08:18:00] <PulkoMandy> the be book has some details on this[08:18:33] <PulkoMandy> https://www.haiku-os.org/legacy-docs/bebook/TheInterfaceKit_The_Coordinate_Space.html[08:19:19] <PulkoMandy> a BRect(0,0,1,1) has an height and with of 1, but covers 4 pixels[08:20:53] *** FreeFull has quit IRC[08:23:09] <jessicah> oh[08:23:27] <jessicah> i see[08:23:46] <jessicah> that's weird[08:23:59] <jessicah> so a BRect(0,0,0,0) is 1 pixel?[08:24:32] <PulkoMandy> yes[08:24:58] <jessicah> that seems really counter-intuitive, haha[08:25:32] <jessicah> so how do you test/debug changes to drawing code in webkit?[08:25:37] <jessicah> haikuwebkit*[08:26:01] *** AlienSoldier has quit IRC[08:26:16] <PulkoMandy> make change ; compile ; run ; iterate :)[08:26:46] <PulkoMandy> there's a README in the repo with instructions on how to build it (takes about 3 hours here) and running the testsuite (takes half a day)[08:27:06] <jessicah> half a day? holy crap[08:27:11] <jessicah> is that inside haiku[08:27:15] <PulkoMandy> the build includes a test browser called HaikuLauncher, which you can use for testing web pages[08:27:17] <PulkoMandy> yes[08:27:35] <PulkoMandy> the build time will probably be better for anyone else, my computer is old[08:27:40] <jessicah> hmm[08:27:48] <jessicah> i wonder if the sdcard is on xhci controller[08:27:51] * jessicah goes checks[08:28:00] <PulkoMandy> the testsuite, I'm not sure, it spends most of the time waiting for some tests that time out[08:28:12] <PulkoMandy> I'm currently trying to improve that[08:28:36] <PulkoMandy> (it waits 35 seconds for each test, and there are 32000 of them)[08:29:06] <jessicah> at least i recovered my os x & win8.1 installs on my airbook after trying to prod haiku into working, lol[08:31:06] <jessicah> sdcard on usb3 bus too :([08:33:18] <PulkoMandy> I guess Haiku isn't too happy with that yet?[08:33:21] <jessicah> how much disk space do you use for haiku?[08:33:30] <jessicah> apparently xhci support is disabled atm[08:33:56] <PulkoMandy> my system partition is 2GB, the rest of my disk is my "data" partition with everything inside it[08:34:15] <PulkoMandy> (and there are 40GB I left for installing another system, which I didn't do yet)[08:34:28] <jessicah> a better question: how much space does your webkit repo take up?[08:34:47] <jessicah> i remember running out of space last time I tried setting up haiku partitions[08:35:14] <PulkoMandy> Tracker says 8.3GB[08:35:30] <PulkoMandy> (including sources, git history, build, and testsuite results)[08:35:33] <jessicah> hmm[08:35:38] <jessicah> okay[08:36:48] *** moribund112 has joined #haiku[08:39:34] <HAIKU-Buildbot> build #814 of x86-Linux-host is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://mmadia.dyndns.org:8010/builders/x86-Linux-host/builds/814[08:41:53] *** jessicah has quit IRC[08:42:55] *** alvin__ has joined #haiku[08:45:18] *** Vidiot_X has quit IRC[08:48:15] *** jessicah has joined #haiku[08:49:53] *** jessicah_ has joined #haiku[08:51:44] <jessicah_> https://twitter.com/MikeRepplier/status/438355689535070208/photo/1 bahahaha[08:52:18] *** jessicah has quit IRC[08:52:29] *** humdinger has joined #haiku[08:53:26] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[08:53:55] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[08:57:25] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[08:58:44] *** jessicah_ is now known as jessicah[09:03:08] *** Cenbe has quit IRC[09:03:29] *** Cenbe has joined #haiku[09:07:37] <jessicah> wonder how haiku performs in hyper-v[09:09:15] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[09:09:46] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[09:11:22] *** stippi has joined #haiku[09:11:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[09:13:06] *** DKnoto has joined #haiku[09:13:32] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[09:14:00] *** stippi has quit IRC[09:23:06] *** HaikuTesting has joined #haiku[09:26:06] *** kkux has quit IRC[09:26:13] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC[09:27:34] *** daniele_athome has joined #haiku[09:29:32] <HaikuTesting> Has anyone had success ssh rooting into Haiku?[09:32:19] <Diver> HaikuTesting: have you run passwd to set up a password for root (baron)?[09:33:04] <HaikuTesting> yes, but it still tells me root doesn't exist[09:33:33] <HaikuTesting> The "passwd" command works. "su" does not work.[09:33:44] <Diver> there's no root in Haiku[09:33:45] <DKnoto> "user" not "root"[09:33:50] <Diver> baron is root[09:34:06] <Diver> hmm[09:34:16] <Diver> maybe it's user now[09:34:21] <HaikuTesting> Then what command do I issue to ssh into it?[09:34:26] <Diver> cat /etc/passwd[09:34:43] <Diver> ssh user@host as usual[09:34:53] <HaikuTesting> I can ssh out from inside of it[09:35:00] <HaikuTesting> I'm using irssi from the iPad right now[09:35:52] <HaikuTesting> The ssh user@ip still refuses[09:36:07] <jessicah> have you started sshd?[09:36:19] <HaikuTesting> How do I do that? I've never had to.[09:36:23] <jessicah> you also need to add a new sshd user from what i can tell[09:36:40] <jessicah> useradd sshd[09:36:52] <jessicah> then /boot/system/bin/sshd[09:36:56] <jessicah> smth like that worked for me[09:37:23] <Diver> or just /bin/sshd[09:38:03] <HaikuTesting> No such file or directory[09:38:07] <HaikuTesting> hmm[09:38:11] *** stippi has joined #haiku[09:38:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stippi[09:41:39] <HaikuTesting> It's not the biggest deal right now. I'm glad to be able to ssh from it at this point.[09:42:20] <Diver> pkgman ins openssh[09:42:29] <HaikuTesting> pkgman ins openssh[09:42:42] *** SonicX has quit IRC[09:58:07] *** Xenmen has quit IRC[10:10:51] *** nighty^ has joined #haiku[10:38:35] *** pcomputo_ has joined #haiku[10:42:49] *** valeriusL has quit IRC[10:43:07] *** puckipedia|away is now known as puckipedia[10:55:41] *** valeriusL has joined #haiku[10:58:05] *** HaikuTesting has quit IRC[11:03:29] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[11:10:34] *** anoopcs has joined #haiku[11:12:32] <anoopcs> Is this the official irc channel for discussions related to GSoC 2014 under Haiku?[11:17:31] *** Vidiot_X has joined #haiku[11:20:39] <PulkoMandy> yes[11:26:35] <anoopcs> I just checked the project ideas from Haiku's GSoC page. What does 'userland development' skill mean?[11:27:14] <PulkoMandy> it means you don't have to mess with the OS kernel[11:27:25] <puckipedia> Userland is everything you see, mostly[11:28:06] <puckipedia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_space[11:29:35] <anoopcs> Ok. About the calendar application project, Whether Qt is used for developing user interface?[11:30:03] <puckipedia> We use the BeOS api[11:30:30] <puckipedia> https://www.haiku-os.org/legacy-docs/bebook/ is the best reference for that[11:31:48] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[11:34:10] <PulkoMandy> Calendar again...[11:34:24] * PulkoMandy made the warning about tasks looking easy more visible on the Ideas page[11:35:13] <PulkoMandy> this one idea seems very popular to students this year (we've already got 3 or 4 people asking about it here)[11:36:10] <puckipedia> Next time, just make a GSoC page containing one task:[11:36:11] <puckipedia> Calendar[11:37:05] <PulkoMandy> that's not really what we want :)[11:37:11] <puckipedia> Or just kernel tasks[11:38:36] <PulkoMandy> well, I think it's possible to build a great "calendar" app, with synchronization with online services (CalDAV, iCal, whatever), part of it possibly part of the Services Kit (XML parsing, iCal format, CalDAV protocol, ...)[11:38:47] <PulkoMandy> and integration with existing Haiku stuff (People files, ...)[11:39:20] <puckipedia> Not just that, but save the data as files + attributes[11:39:25] <PulkoMandy> that could be a good GSoC project, but can we expect students, who probably never ran Haiku before, to come up with a proposal in this way?[11:39:34] <puckipedia> That´s the problem, I think[11:39:40] <PulkoMandy> I'm not really fond of 'let's store everything in attributes'[11:39:58] <PulkoMandy> doesn't work if you want to export the files to a FAT32 usbstick, for one[11:40:03] <puckipedia> Not everything, but data like info about the files[11:40:16] <puckipedia> So it can be (re)generated from the content inside of the file[11:40:39] <PulkoMandy> I don't even know if we could point to some app on another OS as a reference?[11:40:48] <HaikuUser> I'm not a fan of this non-standard directory tree. Make the same exact folders as other Unix-like systems so git knows what to do with our crap.[11:40:56] <PulkoMandy> I guess Linux mostly puts this all in Thunderbird, and Windows in Outlook?[11:41:00] <puckipedia> HaikuUser, Then don´t use Haiku![11:41:16] <PulkoMandy> HaikuUser: if you want Unix, there are pleinty of clones for you[11:41:24] <PulkoMandy> we're not Unix, and we're not trying to be[11:41:32] <puckipedia> It isn´t a unix-like, it just has posix compatibility[11:41:43] <HaikuUser> Pulko, it's Haiku shooting itself in the foot to not do that. It's lacking in software at the moment.[11:41:49] <PulkoMandy> it's not[11:41:53] <puckipedia> Seen haikuporter?[11:41:56] <puckipedia> Seen haikuports*?[11:42:01] <PulkoMandy> I use it, and I even make a living out of it[11:42:02] <PulkoMandy> so...[11:42:49] <puckipedia> Almost all posix-compatible apps run[11:42:57] <puckipedia> There´s a qt port in the making iirc[11:43:17] <HaikuUser> It comes with git. It obviously wants me to use it.[11:43:20] <PulkoMandy> there is a quite complete Qt port, actually[11:43:27] <puckipedia> And it has BeOS compatibility, so you can use all of the BeOS apps/devices/drivers[11:43:57] <puckipedia> I have never had a problem with git on Haiku[11:44:05] <HaikuUser> It's just that these programs get confused on where to insert themselves[11:44:21] <HaikuUser> youtube-dl is a recent issue with me[11:44:21] <puckipedia> Seen our package management?[11:44:45] <PulkoMandy> in recent nightly builds, youtube-dl is available as a package[11:44:50] <PulkoMandy> and that works out of the box[11:44:59] <PulkoMandy> there is even a native gui around it (UberTuber)[11:45:26] <HaikuUser> So I gotta scrap everything I've got, install a nightly build, and be back at square one?[11:45:42] <puckipedia> yep[11:46:05] <puckipedia> Alpha4 is massively outdated atm (imo)[11:46:23] <HaikuUser> Where are the nightly builds available?[11:46:36] <puckipedia> haiku-files.org[11:46:42] <puckipedia> Choose the GCC2 hybrids[11:49:00] <HaikuUser> Any recommendation to which one? Just choose the latest? :)[11:49:06] <PulkoMandy> we're planning to do a new release "soon", but it takes time and we have some important bugs to fix[11:49:10] <PulkoMandy> yes, just get the latest[11:49:40] <HaikuUser> Thanks for the help. I'm an annoying new end user.[11:49:51] <PulkoMandy> we need more! :)[11:51:20] <HaikuUser> Haiku interests me. I use OS X and Linux mostly.[12:02:09] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[12:06:18] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[12:09:45] *** PulkoMandy has joined #haiku[12:15:54] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[12:17:31] *** Colin_Finck has joined #haiku[12:17:45] *** Colin_Finck has quit IRC[12:17:45] *** Colin_Finck has joined #haiku[12:19:59] *** humdinger has quit IRC[12:25:13] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[12:42:21] *** Barrett has joined #haiku[12:45:54] *** DKnoto has joined #haiku[12:52:11] *** Dane__ has quit IRC[12:58:41] *** OnHaikuOS has joined #haiku[12:59:25] <OnHaikuOS> Yes... The nightly build is better. Thanks for the suggestion.[13:04:47] *** OnHaikuOS has quit IRC[13:06:15] *** kkux has joined #haiku[13:10:10] *** juser has joined #haiku[13:12:19] *** puckipedia is now known as puckipedia|away[13:16:40] *** _3dEyes has joined #haiku[13:20:40] *** anoopcs has quit IRC[13:23:57] *** cb88 has joined #haiku[13:24:20] *** cb88 is now known as Guest80702[13:24:39] *** Barrett has quit IRC[13:24:58] *** Guest80702 has quit IRC[13:25:58] *** cb88-2 has joined #haiku[13:30:03] *** _3dEyes has quit IRC[13:31:51] <cb88-2> so how does one go about building qt with haikuporter?[13:32:08] <cb88-2> from what I am seeing it has problems resolving dependancies[13:42:10] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[13:49:21] *** Vidiot_X has quit IRC[14:10:20] <PulkoMandy> cb88-2: ./haikuporter -j2 -S qt_x86 should work[14:10:29] <PulkoMandy> (if you're running a recent gcc2hybrid nightly)[14:12:00] <cb88-2> yes gcc2_hybrid nightly... so you can just append _x86 to get the gcc4 version of the package?[14:12:36] 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Which can change absolute paths to relative and stuff[18:16:39] <PulkoMandy> mh... so gmail web interface doesn't load now[18:16:44] <PulkoMandy> and I still have no idea why :([18:19:29] *** Martini_ has quit IRC[18:21:27] <puckipedia> It's better than half working[18:24:19] *** luroh has quit IRC[18:25:10] *** stippi1 has quit IRC[18:25:40] *** Martini_ has joined #haiku[18:26:22] *** luroh has joined #haiku[18:30:42] *** Martini__ has joined #haiku[18:30:50] *** Martini_ has quit IRC[18:30:54] *** Martini__ is now known as Martini_[18:33:19] *** Martini__ has joined #haiku[18:35:18] *** Martini_ has quit IRC[18:35:28] *** Martini__ is now known as Martini_[18:41:36] *** GeekShadow has joined #haiku[18:41:36] *** GeekShadow has joined #haiku[18:43:18] *** bliss-sid has joined #haiku[18:44:11] <bliss-sid> I have downloaded the haiku source code and build tools but i don't understand how to build it ........NEED HELP[18:44:49] *** HubertX4 has joined #haiku[18:44:58] <PulkoMandy> that's rather well documented on the website[18:45:06] <PulkoMandy> http://www.haiku-os.org/guides/building[18:45:15] <puckipedia> bliss-sid: which OS?[18:45:28] <bliss-sid> UBUNTU[18:46:32] <puckipedia> You shouldn't run into any problems, the dependencies are mentioned in the guide[18:46:46] *** mmu_man has joined #haiku[18:46:59] *** TCD has joined #haiku[18:47:55] <puckipedia> hmm, epigraph is offline again[18:58:02] *** FreeFull has joined #haiku[18:58:43] *** stargater has joined #haiku[19:00:46] <bliss-sid> I got it....thank u for your help puckipedia and @PulkoMandy[19:00:57] *** roptat has joined #haiku[19:01:53] <stargater> hi[19:03:15] *** roptat has quit IRC[19:04:45] <HubertX4> hi[19:07:00] <HubertX4> who have Qt dev PM version on server?[19:12:40] <bliss-sid> How much estimate time will it take to build haiku-os for the first time[19:13:52] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[19:16:44] *** HubertX4_ has joined #haiku[19:17:16] <HubertX4_> re[19:18:33] <Anarchos> hi HubertX4_[19:18:40] <Anarchos> hi xyzzy[19:18:43] <HubertX4_> hi[19:19:02] <HubertX4_> Im searching Qt dev PM version[19:19:18] <HubertX4_> who know?[19:19:29] <Anarchos> no idea[19:19:59] *** HubertX4 has quit IRC[19:20:08] *** HubertX4_ is now known as HubertX4[19:21:22] *** ddavid123 has joined #haiku[19:21:34] *** ddavid123 has quit IRC[19:21:34] *** ddavid123 has joined #haiku[19:22:22] <jessicah> PulkoMandy: I'm still cloning haiku-webkit :([19:22:34] <ddavid123> I am having trouble with ruby gems. Since the package is read only, I can not install arcadia, a ruby gem.[19:23:59] <ddavid123> I tried copying ruby .hpkg to /home/config/packages and uninstalled ruby with Haiku Depot, but it is still read only.[19:24:29] <Anarchos> hi jessicah, been a long time ![19:24:34] <ddavid123> extract it to /home/config/nonpackages[19:27:05] <jessicah> hi Anarchos[19:27:08] <jessicah> yeah...[19:27:25] *** deepak1993malik has joined #haiku[19:27:59] *** BitPuffin has quit IRC[19:28:35] <Anarchos> jessicah could you try my ocaml port ?[19:29:29] *** ddavid123 has quit IRC[19:30:23] <jessicah> ocaml port?[19:31:19] *** bliss-sid has quit IRC[19:31:46] <Anarchos> jessicah my beos API interfacing to ocaml[19:32:04] <jessicah> oh not yet[19:32:37] <Anarchos> :)[19:32:40] <HubertX4> bbl[19:32:43] *** HubertX4 has quit IRC[19:33:12] <Anarchos> jessicah let me know when you could, i am still interested in your insights about it[19:34:17] *** dcase has joined #haiku[19:37:23] *** moribund112 has quit IRC[19:38:47] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[19:38:54] * Anarchos is idle: eating...[19:44:33] *** Negr0 has joined #haiku[19:48:57] *** KapiX has quit IRC[19:53:54] *** anurag_goel has joined #haiku[19:55:04] *** SonicX has joined #haiku[20:00:43] *** PasNox has joined #haiku[20:02:53] *** soakbot has quit IRC[20:03:03] *** soakbot has joined #haiku[20:16:20] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[20:16:45] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[20:16:49] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[20:23:07] *** comrad has joined #haiku[20:24:33] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[20:25:22] *** HubertX4 has joined #haiku[20:31:43] *** AlienSoldier has joined #haiku[20:39:17] *** humdinger has quit IRC[20:39:49] *** moribund112 has joined #haiku[20:47:04] *** teodorab has joined #haiku[20:49:32] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[20:49:44] *** HaikuUser is now known as OnHaikuOs[20:51:42] *** Lelldorin1 has joined #haiku[20:51:47] *** OnHaikuOs is now known as OnHaikuOS[20:51:51] *** Lelldorin1 has quit IRC[20:52:05] *** idefix_gromit has joined #haiku[20:56:03] <umccullough> AlienSoldier, i have a P4 machine here with rtl8169 i think[20:56:10] <umccullough> but it doesn't have haiku on it atm :([20:57:56] *** deepak1993malik has left #haiku[20:58:06] <AlienSoldier> umccullough you could test with a flashdrive, if it boot USB (mine does not)[20:58:29] *** Ptrus has quit IRC[20:58:56] *** Ptrus has joined #haiku[20:59:38] <AlienSoldier> one thing i noticed with R5 is that some bugs appear at some CPU clocking and not at others. Once most bugs get squashed i will have to test many different ram and cpu clocking for proper testing.[21:00:06] <umccullough> i will try tonight[21:01:33] <AlienSoldier> P4 is at 1.8G right now[21:01:58] <AlienSoldier> i keep it low as i have a nasty looking capacitor on the board i don't want to stress[21:07:38] * Anarchos has returned[21:08:48] *** Anarchos has quit IRC[21:11:04] *** KapiX has joined #haiku[21:13:59] *** valeriusL has quit IRC[21:14:20] *** Anarchos has joined #haiku[21:19:38] *** HubertX4 has quit IRC[21:24:21] *** dcase has quit IRC[21:26:45] *** valeriusL has joined #haiku[21:29:09] *** axeld has joined #haiku[21:29:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o axeld[21:32:18] <Anarchos> hi axeld[21:34:04] <Anarchos> axeld should i use « net_buffer_module_info->create() » to replace the Linux «dev_alloc_skb()» ?[21:35:04] *** HubertX4 has joined #haiku[21:36:05] *** pcomputo_ has quit IRC[21:36:05] *** pcomputo has quit IRC[21:36:47] *** DKnoto has joined #haiku[21:39:55] *** puckipedia is now known as puckipedia|away[21:41:16] <axeld> Anarchos: yes[21:43:48] *** OnHaikuOS has quit IRC[21:46:04] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[21:47:40] *** BitPuffin has joined #haiku[21:48:37] <Anarchos> axeld oh thanks i made the good guess ! I was still sceptic, because i saw it were only use in the ethernet layer and nowhere else in the source code of haiku[21:52:01] *** DKnoto has quit IRC[21:54:34] *** oco2 has joined #haiku[21:57:35] *** devport has joined #haiku[21:57:36] *** anurag_goel has quit IRC[22:00:58] *** nighty^ has quit IRC[22:01:10] *** cb88-2 has quit IRC[22:03:39] *** Not-002 has joined #haiku[22:03:39] <Not-002> [haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±4] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports/commits/[22:03:42] <Not-002> [haikuports] korli 7e57931 - qemu: build on x86_64.[22:05:08] <mmu_man> oh cool :)[22:05:09] *** hamishm__ is now known as hamishm[22:05:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: -o hamishm[22:05:33] <Anarchos> mmu_man i know you play a lot with qemu :)[22:06:18] *** HaikuUser is now known as ManjaroGNU[22:07:19] * Anarchos is looking for mmadia[22:10:02] *** rwhite226 has joined #haiku[22:12:23] *** HubertX4 has quit IRC[22:13:36] *** ManjaroGNU has quit IRC[22:17:51] *** secris has joined #haiku[22:20:16] <umccullough> AlienSoldier, replace that cap![22:20:18] <umccullough> :)[22:20:29] <umccullough> i think all my p4 boards have had their caps replaced already[22:20:41] <umccullough> it was the era of cap plague[22:21:03] <AlienSoldier> it still is sadly[22:21:15] <secris> I was looking over the GSoC ideas and I saw the one about porting Go was there a reason why gccgo was not enabled in the updated build of gcc?[22:21:17] <AlienSoldier> i will probably get another free P4 instead :)[22:21:20] <umccullough> Anarchos, can i help you in mmadia's absence?[22:22:06] <umccullough> secris, i'm unsure - the mentor that added that item to the list is a Go fan that works for Google, so...[22:23:00] <secris> ah that does make sense[22:23:43] <mmu_man> BGA ?[22:23:44] <mmu_man> ;-)[22:23:46] <umccullough> yep[22:23:46] <jessicah> 3% to go....[22:23:52] <secris> as far as I know adding it would be as simple as --enable-languages=go in configure[22:24:16] <umccullough> i would recommend asking on the haiku-development mailing list for additional details on that project[22:24:23] <umccullough> maybe Bruno will respond[22:24:34] <PulkoMandy> secris: we would still need a runtime, right?[22:24:42] <umccullough> i doubt he would have added it as a GSoC project if it was that simple[22:25:09] <PulkoMandy> well, the project can be grown into adding Haiku API bindings[22:25:30] <umccullough> sure, either way the proposal would have to fill up 3 months :P[22:25:34] <umccullough> or however long gsoc is[22:25:44] <secris> Yeah it sounds like he was suggesting the actual google go compiler[22:26:02] <umccullough> most likely[22:26:13] <umccullough> he has suggested porting it in the past[22:28:14] <secris> I was looking around for ideas to help Haiku beyond changing to goodsearch is why I was skimming the list just thought I would ask. If the goal is Go support gccgo is a should be a fairly simple implementation[22:28:16] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[22:28:29] *** HaikuUser is now known as OnHaikuOS[22:28:46] <umccullough> feel free to poke at it :)[22:29:03] <umccullough> personally, i know almost nothing about Go[22:29:50] <OnHaikuOS> Go the Japanese game?[22:30:05] <umccullough> the language[22:30:10] <OnHaikuOS> hmm[22:30:16] <secris> I know enough to know that the Go is gaining popularity[22:30:17] <Anarchos> umccullough i want him to close an old account of mine on haiku-os.org[22:30:24] <umccullough> i can do that for you[22:30:29] <secris> Go the game is quite fascinating though[22:31:27] *** comrad has quit IRC[22:32:14] <PulkoMandy> now implement Go (the game) in Go (the language)[22:32:17] <PulkoMandy> and confuse everyone![22:32:25] <OnHaikuOS> :-)[22:32:58] <PulkoMandy> jessicah: ok, I just pushed one more fix to haikuwebkit - you may want to pull it before you start hacking around[22:33:49] <secris> So I heard you like Go? Well I wrote Go in Go so you could have more Go with your Go.[22:34:36] <OnHaikuOS> Are you a Go get 'er?[22:35:42] *** Skipp_OSX has joined #haiku[22:37:16] <OnHaikuOS> Are you on OS X, Skipp?[22:37:17] <secris> Maybe I did just download gcc-4.8 source to get Go[22:37:23] *** jua_ has joined #haiku[22:37:25] <jessicah> PulkoMandy: still cloning :([22:37:29] <Skipp_OSX> OnHaikuOS, yes[22:37:46] <jessicah> go seems kind of like jocaml[22:37:56] <OnHaikuOS> I use OS X and Linux most of the time[22:37:59] *** rdmr has joined #haiku[22:38:13] <Skipp_OSX> OnHaikuOS, I see... I guess me too, Linux on the server though[22:38:23] *** navneet_ has quit IRC[22:38:30] <OnHaikuOS> Do you use Macports?[22:38:40] <Skipp_OSX> OnHaikuOS, no, I have moved to homebrew[22:38:54] <OnHaikuOS> Better selection there?[22:39:32] *** OnHaikuOS has quit IRC[22:39:59] *** rwhite226 has quit IRC[22:40:47] <Anarchos> jessicah yes it is very similar if my informations are correct[22:41:58] *** rdmr has quit IRC[22:42:46] *** mtY has quit IRC[22:43:45] *** karanp has quit IRC[22:46:55] <secris> I do not know anything about jocaml[22:47:07] <hamishm> I don't think it's as simple as --enable-languages=go[22:47:42] <hamishm> there's a runtime to port and supporting libraries[22:49:16] <secris> probably not but that is what the gcc information on the go site says[22:50:47] *** devport has quit IRC[22:55:55] *** puckipedia|away is now known as puckipedia[22:57:47] *** PulkoMandy has quit IRC[22:58:58] *** axeld has quit IRC[23:04:02] *** rwhite226 has joined #haiku[23:09:59] *** PasNox has quit IRC[23:11:29] *** fhein has quit IRC[23:11:39] *** NumberNoid has quit IRC[23:15:07] *** KapiX has quit IRC[23:18:15] *** pdziepak has quit IRC[23:22:09] *** Martini__ has joined #haiku[23:22:45] *** HaikuUser has joined #haiku[23:23:04] *** HaikuUser2 has joined #haiku[23:23:37] *** Martini_ has quit IRC[23:23:48] *** Martini__ is now known as Martini_[23:23:51] *** HaikuUser2 has left #haiku[23:24:19] <HaikuUser> Running HAIKU on a LTE 4G NETWORK!!![23:24:20] <HaikuUser> :)[23:25:13] <secris> Bet that is nice[23:25:33] <HaikuUser> cooool 100 MB 4G[23:26:48] <HaikuUser> would be cool if I could connect easily to wifi on haiku![23:26:59] <HaikuUser> using WPA2[23:27:07] <HaikuUser> see ya[23:27:08] <umccullough> why not?[23:27:17] <umccullough> WPA2 works fine for me[23:27:20] <HaikuUser> hardware is incompatible[23:27:25] <umccullough> fair enough[23:27:46] <HaikuUser> and tools aren't deployed offline[23:28:12] <HaikuUser> it needs online connectivity to install firmwares... a newbie don't know that are firmwares[23:28:27] <HaikuUser> they want a control panel where they can control things.[23:28:30] <umccullough> yep, we do provide a guide mentioning this[23:28:55] <umccullough> sadly, if your chip requires downloadable firmware, we're tied unless we obtain a license to redistribute it[23:29:10] <umccullough> fortunately, that's mostly limited to older chipsets[23:29:48] *** jessicah has quit IRC[23:29:57] <HaikuUser> beee coool :) see ya![23:29:59] *** HaikuUser has quit IRC[23:30:26] *** jessicah` has joined #haiku[23:31:02] *** idefix_gromit has left #haiku[23:31:37] *** _marc` has quit IRC[23:32:28] *** _marc` has joined #haiku[23:33:21] *** poxip has quit IRC[23:38:57] *** irker-314 has joined #haiku[23:39:27] <irker-314> haiku.master: jscipione * hrev46948 [2 commits] http://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=847e14f+%5E3ed7ce7[23:39:28] <irker-314> dba2913: Tweaks to the API documentation[23:39:28] <irker-314> 847e14f: Turn class diagrams back on[23:40:48] *** Martini_ has quit IRC[23:45:00] *** moribund112 has quit IRC[23:45:31] *** teodorab has left #haiku[23:51:54] *** rwhite226 has quit IRC[23:52:34] <Not-002> [haikuports.cross] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±6] https://bitbucket.org/haikuports/haikuports.cross/commits/[23:52:37] <Not-002> [haikuports.cross] kallisti5 7052bc6 - ARM: Add arm as a platform for some bootstrap packages * ARM bootstrap is currently stuck on gcc_bootstrap[23:53:13] <secris> where are my words of wisdom?[23:53:26] <secris> just watched a video on BeOS 5[23:54:07] *** jessicah` has quit IRC[23:54:33] *** Xenmen has joined #haiku[23:55:59] *** puckipedia is now known as puckipedia|away[23:57:25] *** daniele_athome has quit IRC